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Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews, and the inside. Ryan Bridge you

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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four on the Early edition with Smith City,

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Speaker 1: New Zealand's Furniture Vans and a play a store us Dogs.

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Speaker 2: It'd be good morning, early writers, good morning movers and shakers.

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Speaker 2: It's great to have you listening this morning. A lot

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Speaker 2: has happened overnight, mainly in the States. Will keep you

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Speaker 2: up to date with what's going on. There's a saying

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Speaker 2: in politics that basically it's show business for ugly people,

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Speaker 2: and you look at someone like Biden, or you look

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Speaker 2: they are pretty ugly. However, real Hollywood is weighing into

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Speaker 2: Washington's politics this morning. George Clooney, who's actually hot, isn't

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Speaker 2: he the actor? You'd all agree with that. He has

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Speaker 2: written an op ed for the New York Times, and

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Speaker 2: he's very influential in the Democratic Party. He is calling

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Speaker 2: for Joe Biden to stand down his campaign for reelection

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Speaker 2: to be president. This morning, Nancy Pelosi has dropped a bombshell,

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Speaker 2: and at five to twenty six this morning, I'll tell

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Speaker 2: you more about that. Katherine Ferkin is with us from

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Speaker 2: the United States to break it all down at five

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Speaker 2: point forty four. Also, this three page climate action plan

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Speaker 2: that the National Party has released. You would have seen

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Speaker 2: it in the news yesterday. I would have thought three

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Speaker 2: We're gonna speak to someone about that. Russell Norman's got

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Speaker 2: what is better gas or coal? It's just gone seven

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Speaker 1: The agenda.

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Speaker 2: Thursday, the eleventh of July, the Prime Minister is in Washington, DC,

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Speaker 2: meeting with lawmakers ahead of the NATO summit, which is underway.

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Speaker 2: The big story in the US, of course, is still

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden and his debate performance, which Luxen was asked about. Again,

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Speaker 2: I'm not talking about US tomestic politics.

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Speaker 3: I'm here as Prime Minister of New Zealand's My job

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Speaker 3: is to work with whoever the leader is.

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Speaker 2: Yes, smart moves, stay out of it. The Prime Minister

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Speaker 2: sets a whole by lateral talks with world leaders. Today

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Speaker 2: they include Justin Trudeau of Canada. Who can you believe

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Speaker 2: this has been in power now for nine years? Trudeau

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Speaker 2: and they just lost. They just had a bioection in Toronto,

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Speaker 2: most people think he will stand again for re election

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Speaker 2: by twenty twenty five. Incredible. Machron on the other hand,

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Speaker 2: of course in a bit of peril, but so he'll

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Speaker 2: had meetings with Trudeau and Matron today. Meanwhile, back here

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand, Northland's Chamber of Commerce is heading out

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Speaker 2: at power grid operator trans Power, saying it's damaging its

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Speaker 2: month's power outage. Much of Northland lost power when workers

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Speaker 4: Sort of good will gesture that at least they recognized

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Speaker 2: In New Zealand has been ranked the best place in

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Speaker 2: This morning, this is a weird story from China. A

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Speaker 1: edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture

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Speaker 2: News Talk said, be one hundred snakes in your pants.

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Speaker 2: Some of us only need one. Right. I'm George Clooney.

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Speaker 2: to say that he loves Joe Biden. He loves loved

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Speaker 2: News Talk said B fourteen after five, Love your feedback.

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Speaker 2: Nine two ninety two is the number to text me

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Speaker 2: Oranges with me this morning. Lisa, good morning, Thank you

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Speaker 2: for being with me. Can I start with good morning,

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Speaker 2: good morning? Five quick fire questions for you this morning?

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Speaker 2: Do you generally agree with these sentiments of what the

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Speaker 5: Definitely, though you can do that many different ways.

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Speaker 2: All right, What about do you think we should have

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Speaker 5: If it's done well.

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Speaker 5: I think the ship might have sailed with that. We're

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Speaker 2: So what what what this means is you've just agreed

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Speaker 5: So I think you can put a nice little plan

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Speaker 5: It's just that simple. And this government wants to do

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Speaker 5: Well, I don't think either. If we get a good

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Speaker 2: This is just a headline from Radio and New Zealand

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Speaker 2: from the eight of May of this year, Genesis Energy

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Speaker 2: to fire up coal imports citing increased demand and dwindling

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Speaker 2: So you're saying that we've got enough to transition, but

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Speaker 5: We can just do this. This is the right thing

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Speaker 2: Lisa, thank you very much for your time this morning.

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Speaker 2: That's Lisa McLaren. She's the three point fifty Altied Dour spokesperson.

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Speaker 2: Twenty two after five, Mark says, and what lifetime do

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Speaker 2: you think renewables will cover all our needs? And at

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Speaker 2: what cost to our country? Right now? Core Logics called

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Speaker 2: our Construction Price Index has recorded the first drop in

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Speaker 2: when we're building right Joining me now is the new

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Speaker 6: The drop in building US means it's a great time

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Speaker 6: Global supply chains are no longer disrupted, so costs are

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Speaker 2: Now, what does it mean for trade? These wages? Are

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Speaker 6: Wages generally have stabilized four point one percent was the

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Speaker 2: This is all good news. Does this mean that we're

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Speaker 2: Malcolm, thanks for your time. Malcom firming with us this

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Speaker 1: Next, separating the Fact from the Fiction Kids Billing edition

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Speaker 2: News Talk ZBB. Right, it's just gone twenty seven after

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Speaker 7: Let's just hold off whatever you're thinking. Either tell somebody privately,

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Speaker 2: So what is the problem with that? Well, remember Biden

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Speaker 4: I am running and gonna win again.

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Speaker 2: So now you have the most influential, one of the

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Speaker 2: In a political crisis, there are headlines like gunfire. Then

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Speaker 1: College get ahead of the headlines, Ryan Bridge, you for

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Speaker 2: News Talk said, be good morning, New Zealand. It is

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Speaker 2: twenty four away from six zero. News Talk's early edition

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Speaker 2: was me, Ryan Bridge, good to have you with me

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Speaker 2: this morning. We've just had a text come in from

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Speaker 2: There is a once in a lifetime explosion about to

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Speaker 1: From Sex Rayan Bridge.

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Speaker 2: And we're going to Dunedin with Culum Proctor Culum Larnark Castle.

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Speaker 2: Some restoration work going to happen here morning Ryan.

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Speaker 8: This is a crucial work to ensure the historic building's future.

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Speaker 2: Contractors there are on site.

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Speaker 8: The castle covered in scaffolding and it's all about making

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Speaker 2: How's the weather today, Collum? But you good day of

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Speaker 9: Fine?

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Speaker 8: Mostly find cloudy periods like wins the high eleven today brilliant.

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Speaker 2: Thank you Emily ansel is in christ Church this morning

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Speaker 2: with the big day for Sinlay.

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Speaker 10: Yes, definitely d day for Sinlay. The struggling South Island

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Speaker 10: third largest dairy processor will likely collapse. Federated Farmers Dairy

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Speaker 10: chair Richard McIntyre says that would leave many without a

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Speaker 10: Milk's closure would bring major ripple effects and stress to farmers.

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Speaker 2: All right, what's the weather going to be like for

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Speaker 10: Cloudy periods, patchy drizzle late evening, early morning, frost, light

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Speaker 2: Emily, Thank you, Max toler Is and Wellington for us

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Speaker 2: this morning. More questions about how the utter te fery

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Speaker 2: that's the point.

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Speaker 11: Really, you had the year, so you had the official

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Speaker 11: ago this rumor that the intervind the ferry ran aground

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Speaker 11: because someone put it an autopilot to go get a

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Speaker 11: a lot of criticism, Chris Hipkins had to go yesterday.

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Speaker 11: Kbi Well said they got their facts wrong. Maritime New

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Speaker 11: So whether this went to get a coffee rumor is true,

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Speaker 2: All right, Max, Thanks for that. How's the weather today

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Speaker 11: Cloudy period's the odd shower mostly after midday, southerly's eleven

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Speaker 11: the high.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much. Never ready moneyed with us in Auckland

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Speaker 2: this morning good morning, Good morning, some Auckland roads have

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Speaker 2: had a makeover.

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Speaker 12: Yes, now, I know this isn't breaking news because you

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Speaker 12: know here in Auckland, it's just like Cone City, isn't it.

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Speaker 12: But Auckland Transport has come up with these numbers. They're

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Speaker 12: saying resurface more than four hundred kilometers of the region's roads. Now,

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Speaker 12: this is part of the summer road reno which they

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Speaker 12: committed to last year kind of like ending in June.

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Speaker 12: So this is the news that they're saying, Hey, hey,

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Speaker 12: we've done four hundred kilometers. Ellen Wallace is the road Esset,

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Speaker 12: Maintenance and Renewals manager. He says, look, this is the

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Speaker 12: biggest program of work that they've done since twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 12: But but but there's seven five hundred kilometers still.

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Speaker 2: To go in total.

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Speaker 12: So he's saying, hey, there's plenty of work to do.

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Speaker 12: So they've got a huge backlog. As if we didn't

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Speaker 12: know that, we wouldn't know ourselves. No, once things are normal, no,

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Speaker 12: I mean, you know everyone, what will that look like?

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Speaker 2: That'll take them a few summers to get through that,

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Speaker 2: that's for sure. Speaking of summers, what's the weather looking

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Speaker 2: like today?

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Speaker 12: Fine morning, cloud morning, frost shelter places for Auckland. Do

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Speaker 12: you believe it? A high fourteen four is the load tonight,

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Speaker 12: so it's pretty chilly for Auckland.

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Speaker 2: Bit nippy all right, thank you so much. Never ready

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Speaker 2: money with us in Auckland this morning. It has just

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Speaker 2: gone eighteen minutes away from six o'clock when we come back.

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Speaker 2: We're live to the United States with Catherine Ferkin. Lots

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Speaker 2: of you texting in in reply to I think it

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Speaker 2: was Bob earlier that was it an earthquake? Was it

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Speaker 2: a big truck in Dunedin and Otago? I can tell

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Speaker 2: you that earthquake details five twenty am, five kilometers southwest

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Speaker 2: of all i'madu shaking was felt. It was a weak

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Speaker 2: magnitude of two point six at a depth of six kilometers.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for that text, Rob. We're back in a second.

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Speaker 1: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance. Peace of mind

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Speaker 1: for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: And this is great about building costs coming down? Are

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Speaker 2: we ever going to get offered fixed price contracts like

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Speaker 2: they do overseas for new builds so that the costs

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Speaker 2: don't blow out? And then you're on the hook. There

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Speaker 2: is a good question we could put that to the

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Speaker 2: master builders that we had on earlier in the program

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Speaker 2: and put it to the next time. Thanks for your message.

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Speaker 2: At just gone sixteen away from six o'clock. Right now,

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Speaker 2: we're going to Catherine Ferkin, a US correspondent, because the

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Speaker 2: first Democratic Senator has questioned President Joe Biden's election chances.

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Speaker 2: It comes as Nancy Pelosi has weighed into this in

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Speaker 2: an awkward way too for Joe Biden. Catherine, Good morning.

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Speaker 2: What's the latest?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, good morning, Ryan. Well, it just really keeps getting

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Speaker 9: worse for Joe Biden, doesn't it. I mean, now we're

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Speaker 9: basically a fortnight out from that disastrous debate between the

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Speaker 9: President and Donald Trump, and just nothing that he does

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Speaker 9: seems to be helping him in terms of improving his

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Speaker 9: standing amongst the American public. You know, since the debate,

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Speaker 9: we saw him, we've seen him out on the campaign trail,

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Speaker 9: We've seen him call up radio stations and TV stations,

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Speaker 9: We've seen him do a whole sit down TV interview

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Speaker 9: about what went wrong, and none of this is resonating

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Speaker 9: with voters. None of it is changing people's minds. Now,

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Speaker 9: as you mentioned today, we've heard from the first Democratic

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Speaker 9: senator who's spoken out with really the most damning comments yet.

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Speaker 9: Colorado's Michael Bennett says he fears his part and could

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Speaker 9: lose in a landslide to Donald Trump if Joe Biden

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Speaker 9: stays on the ticket. The language he used was really,

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Speaker 9: really strong. He says he believes Donald Trump is on

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Speaker 9: track to win November's election, and he's worried that he

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Speaker 9: will take both the Senate and the House if the

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Speaker 9: Democrats don't make a drastic change. Interestingly, he didn't actually

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Speaker 9: call for Biden to step down, but rather he said

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Speaker 9: the party itself now has a moral obligation to do

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Speaker 9: everything it can to stop Trump from returning to the

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Speaker 9: White House. You mentioned Nancy Pelosi there in the intro.

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Speaker 9: She's also given some really quite awkward comments about the

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Speaker 9: fact that time is running out for Biden to make

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Speaker 9: a decision. We've also heard from actor and Democratic donor

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Speaker 9: George Clooney today. He published a guest sa in The

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Speaker 9: New York Times basically saying we need a new nominee. Now.

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Speaker 9: This is particularly strong because Clooney is a longtime friend

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Speaker 9: of Biden's and he's outwardly passionate about the Democrats that

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Speaker 9: He says that Joe Biden I was with three weeks

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Speaker 9: ago at the fundraiser was not the Joe big effing

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Speaker 9: deal Biden of twenty ten. So unfortunately for Biden, I

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Speaker 9: mean all the signs appointing to exit stage left.

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Speaker 2: Ryan Catherine, thank you very much for that. Our US

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Speaker 2: correspondent Katherine Ferkin with US Live from the United States,

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Speaker 2: twelve away from six. Very quickly from that, George Clooney

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Speaker 2: op ed, he says, and this is the death now.

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Speaker 2: I think for Joe Biden. We're not going to win

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Speaker 2: in November with this president. On top of that, we

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Speaker 2: won't win the House. We're not and we're going to

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Speaker 2: lose the Senate. This isn't only my opinion, this is

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Speaker 2: an interesting but this is the opinion of every Senator

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Speaker 2: and congress member and governor that I've spoken with in private,

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Speaker 2: every single one, irrespective of what he or she is

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Speaker 2: saying publicly, that is damning. It's eleven away four on

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Speaker 2: six o'clock here on zb Bridge Rich positive news from

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Speaker 2: the Reserve Bank. Despite the OCR remaining unchanged at five

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Speaker 2: point five percent, It's hinted that interest rate cuts could

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Speaker 2: be closer than previously thought. The RB and Z said

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Speaker 2: they expect inflation to drop within the target of one

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Speaker 2: to three percent later this year. It follows wide expectations

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Speaker 2: that interest rates would remain unchanged until next year. Sharon

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Speaker 2: Zomer is the A and Z Chief economist and is

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Speaker 2: with me now, Sharon, good morning. Has this changed your

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Speaker 2: view on when you think a rate cut might happen?

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Speaker 13: Well, it was that bank was pretty careful to leave

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Speaker 13: all their options open. That comment about inflation falling back

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Speaker 13: in the band by the end of the year wasn't

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Speaker 13: actually you, but a couple of they did rehisterate they're

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Speaker 13: willing to change their mind, which of course they always

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Speaker 13: are and should be, but noted that rates will evolve

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Speaker 13: according to the conditions and that they've noted that the

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Speaker 13: recent data has been weaker, so certainly that the market

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Speaker 13: jumped on it. We'd see it as tilting and the

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Speaker 13: risk a little bit towards earlier cuts. But essentially it's

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Speaker 13: going to be the data that decides, and we've got

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Speaker 13: the inflation data next week, so with that and down

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Speaker 13: the track, the Reserve Bank was never going to come

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Speaker 13: out with a really really strong view because you know,

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Speaker 13: why would you when you could look a bit silly

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Speaker 13: a week later. So I think that's going to really

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Speaker 13: be a very very important piece of data.

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Speaker 2: And are you following the same strategy.

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Speaker 4: Pretty much what the data is.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, Well it's really really important because in the

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Speaker 13: main monetary policy statements, the Reserve Bank decided that, gosh,

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Speaker 13: maybe this economy is just so unfit it can't run

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Speaker 13: very fast at all without overheating and generating inflation. So

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Speaker 13: they revised down their growth forecast. At the same time,

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Speaker 13: they revised up their inflation forecast pushed out their estimate

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Speaker 13: of when they'll be cutting. So it was like a

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Speaker 13: triple header of bad news. So hopefully we'll get some

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Speaker 13: better news next week that will make the Reserve Bank

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Speaker 13: more confident than they are winning the.

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Speaker 2: Battle to hold your tongue. Hey, a hypothetical one for you.

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Speaker 2: If they were to drop this talk would be twenty

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Speaker 2: five basis points. What would be the real impact on

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Speaker 2: mortgage interest rates? What would the time lay be for people?

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Speaker 2: Just so that they can get an idea in their head.

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Speaker 13: Well, actually it's the Reserve Bank only controls the overnight

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Speaker 13: interest rate, which feeds into the floating mortgage rate, but

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Speaker 13: the interest rates out one year, two year, even out

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Speaker 13: of forrest three years. That is actually determined mostly by

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Speaker 13: what the market expects the Reserve Bank to do, and

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Speaker 13: that actually changed yesterday quite a bit. The markets will

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Speaker 13: make it will come and go a little bit, and

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Speaker 13: the data next week will be important, as I said,

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Speaker 13: but certainly in the hour following what the Reserve Bank

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Speaker 13: said yesterday, rates dropped a lot, so you could potentially

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Speaker 13: see mortgage rates to fall well in advance of when

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Speaker 13: the Reserve Bank actually moves the official cash rates, just

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Speaker 13: as the symmetric situation to when the Reserve Bank was

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Speaker 13: hiking and you saw fax rates mortgages increase well before

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Speaker 13: the ocup. On the other side, the sex mortgage rates,

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Speaker 13: I'd like you to come down before they actually start cutting.

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Speaker 2: All right, Sharon, thank you very much for that update.

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Speaker 2: Great to have you on the show. Sharon Zolner, the

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Speaker 2: A and Z Chief economist, holding her tongue staying mum,

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Speaker 2: just for now until we get more data, and we

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Speaker 2: will get inflation data. I think next week, isn't it, Sharon,

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Speaker 2: with you to get the next round. Yes, that's right, yep,

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Speaker 2: all right, we'll look forward to talking to you then. Sharon,

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Speaker 2: Zoler with us from the chief economist at A and Z.

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Speaker 2: It's just gone eight minutes away from six o'clock here

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Speaker 2: on News Talk ZB. We'll get to some of your

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Speaker 2: feedback in just a few moments. Also another another we

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Speaker 2: comment on the three page climate change plan the government

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Speaker 2: put out yesterday.

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Speaker 1: That's next on your radio and online on iHeartRadio early

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Speaker 1: edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture

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Speaker 1: Bids and a playing Store.

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Speaker 2: News Talk zed B six to six. So the three

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Speaker 2: page climate goal setting exercise that the government did yesterday,

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Speaker 2: all of the climate activists came out and said, wow,

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Speaker 2: that's to hide an MB report which is really really bad.

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Speaker 2: And the NBA report said, actually, we're going to pump

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Speaker 2: a whole lot more emissions into the atmosphere because we

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Speaker 2: are going for oil and gas. Again that same report,

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Speaker 2: it must be said, and Thomas Coglan from the Herald

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Speaker 2: points of this out. It noted that the policy also

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Speaker 2: has virtues. Using more gas would mean burning less coal,

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Speaker 2: more gas would also mean a more stable electricity market,

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Speaker 2: which would encourage electrification. So there are upsides to this

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Speaker 2: as well. It is five away from six. Now Andrew

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Speaker 2: Dickens is with you after six. Good morning, coome onning

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Speaker 2: to you.

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Speaker 3: Burned you could have burned something to do something. Have

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Speaker 3: you ever noticed that you've got to dig something out

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Speaker 3: of the ground to make everything? And where did your

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Speaker 3: Where did your shirt come from? Where did you shoes

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Speaker 3: come from? Everything comes from the earth. Medicines, chemicals, everything

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Speaker 3: comes from the earth. So and energy it comes from

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Speaker 3: the sun and it comes from burning stuff. Yay for

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Speaker 3: water and hydro electric, but yeah, you've got to burn

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Speaker 3: something absolutely and weave for water and hydro electric.

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Speaker 2: But at some point you know there's there are black spots,

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Speaker 2: aren't there? And fill them? That's all right. What's on

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Speaker 2: the big show today?

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Speaker 3: Well, the glimmer of hope for interest rates obviously because

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Speaker 3: of what about sex change words. Construction costs are coming down,

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Speaker 3: so this is good news. And there's that leak safety

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Speaker 3: bulletin about the grounding of the art of Teddy. So

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Speaker 3: we're going to talk to wins Peters, whose party did

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Speaker 3: the tweet in the first place, or the X or

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Speaker 3: whatever you call it, and he's got stuff to say.

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Speaker 3: Now he's had a look at the safety bulletin and

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Speaker 3: he's you know, he's acting Prime minister right now. So

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Speaker 3: that's at seven thirty five.

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Speaker 2: We were debating whether the person was going to make

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Speaker 2: a coffee. Well you would. I had some theories on that.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you that later.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think you would push the autopilot to

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Speaker 2: go to the toilet, but not to make a coffee.

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Speaker 3: You're going to push that oiler pilot for five long seconds, ah,

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Speaker 3: which is interesting. So you've got to know what you're doing,

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Speaker 3: and you've got to do it purposefully. It's not like, oh, no,

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Speaker 3: I push there or no pilot.

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Speaker 2: No, it's a it's a it's a purposeful push. All right.

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