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Speaker 3: Not your weekend Off the Right Way.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Morning with Jacktam, News Talks at BYRD.

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Speaker 4: And New Zealand. Good morning, Welcome to News Talk's ed V.

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Speaker 4: Jack Tam with you through to twelve o'clock today. As

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Speaker 4: we go to air this morning history in Alaska, US

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Speaker 4: President Donald Trump has welcomed Russia's President Vladimir Putin. In

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Speaker 4: the last ninety minutes or so, Trump and Putin both

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Speaker 4: arrived on their private planes. They laid out a litteral

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Speaker 4: red carpet. Trump stood there with his red tie, arm

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Speaker 4: out stretched, greeted Vladimir with a big smile. Welcome to America.

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Speaker 4: The two presidents walked towards the waiting media and the motorcade.

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Speaker 4: Just as they got with an airshot of the reporters,

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Speaker 4: who were all, of course, like desperately screaming questions. There

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Speaker 4: was this incredible flyover, this flex of US strength. A

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Speaker 4: B two stealth bomber, you know those really ominous dark

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Speaker 4: bunker buster bomb on Iran. One of those was flying

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Speaker 4: in the middle of the flyover, they had four F

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Speaker 4: thirty five surrounding it together. The five planes flew over

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Speaker 4: at a really low altitude slowly before Vladimir Putin and

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump jumped in a limousine together and headed off

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Speaker 4: for the beginning of their talk. So who knows how

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Speaker 4: it's going to go over the next few hours. I mean,

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Speaker 4: wouldn't it be incredible of sometime today we were announcing

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Speaker 4: a ceasefire in Ukraine, although I know a lot of

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Speaker 4: analysts aren't feeling super optimistic about that, but look, we're

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Speaker 4: open minded, so we will see how that goes. And

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Speaker 4: of course, the moment there is any update from those

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Speaker 4: high level meetings between Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin in Alaska,

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Speaker 4: you will be the first to know this morning, as

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Speaker 4: well as that we have a fantastic feature for you

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Speaker 4: after ten o'clock. Can't wait for this. Joey Santiago, the

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Speaker 4: rock star with maybe the most rock star name, is

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Speaker 4: going to be with us. He is, of course the

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Speaker 4: lead guitarist for Pixies, who are making their way back

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Speaker 4: to New Zealand with two very different shows. So Joey's

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Speaker 4: going to be with us after ten this morning. Can't

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Speaker 4: wait for that right now, it's nine minutes past nine Jack.

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Speaker 4: You know what, in principle, I think we are all

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Speaker 4: best served by transparency in government. I think leaders should

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Speaker 4: be accountable for their decisions, and they should be willing

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Speaker 4: to take our questions, and they should answer them in

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Speaker 4: a public format. It is after all, it is my job.

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Speaker 4: It is what I do. So probably not a great surprise,

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Speaker 4: I feel that way. That being said, it's pretty clear

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Speaker 4: to me the COVID Inquiry has fallen victim to some

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Speaker 4: bad and even cynical design shaped by politics, rather than

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Speaker 4: a sincere desire to get a full and comprehensive accounting

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Speaker 4: of our response. And it's a shame. It really is

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Speaker 4: a shame because I think actually it threatens to undermine

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Speaker 4: some of the inquiriy's more useful conclusions. In a way,

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Speaker 4: it is a bit of a missed opportunity. So in

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Speaker 4: my view, there's plenty of blame to go around. I

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Speaker 4: reckon the first phase of the COVID Inquiry, which was

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Speaker 4: of course introduced by the last government. I reckon that

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Speaker 4: missed some critical elements in its terms of reference. There

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Speaker 4: was the stuff around monetary policy, the role of the

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Speaker 4: Reserve Bank, There was a little bit of that in

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Speaker 4: the inquiry's conclusions, but I think it should have been

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Speaker 4: included more comprehensively in the terms of reference. But worst

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Speaker 4: of all was the decision not to include vaccine efficacy

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Speaker 4: for something so fundamental to the response and so important

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Speaker 4: to some New Zealander is that they were willing to

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Speaker 4: effectiveness of vaccines and whatever slim risk they carried should

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Speaker 4: think that is a real shame. In principle, I supported

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Speaker 4: expanding the inquiry until I saw the refreshed terms of reference.

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Speaker 4: If it was to be a sincere effort, a truly

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Speaker 4: sincere effort to consider our COVID response, the good calls

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Speaker 4: to better prepare for the next pandemic shock, how could

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Speaker 4: you leave out the first year of the response. Come on, Sure,

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Speaker 4: much of the second phase of the inquiry has focused

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Speaker 4: And if you really cared about our COVID response, you

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Speaker 4: it wasn't just labor and government and to exclude what

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Speaker 4: with time have probably proved to be the more popular

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Speaker 4: The COVID nineteen response was vast. It was just incredibly complex,

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Speaker 4: right and all these years on it it's almost impossible

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Speaker 4: incredibly difficult in my own mind and memories to distinguish

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Speaker 4: between really big events. Was it this lockdown? Was it

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Speaker 4: that lockdown? I'm not too sure. The virus has cast

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Speaker 4: a long shadow in New Zealand, though our response undoubtedly

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Speaker 4: The pandemic might have been over ages ago, but the

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Speaker 4: economic and social impact endure. And one thing I would

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Speaker 4: add to the Royal Commission's conclusions thus far is that

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Speaker 4: next time, I think we need to find a better

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Speaker 4: respectful way to hear and consider dissenting views. Media obviously

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Speaker 4: we did a reasonable job last time, I reckon next

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Speaker 4: on the circumstances. It may not massively change government policy

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Speaker 4: the conspiratorial nature of the fringiest elements, it may honestly

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Speaker 4: be an impossible task. Nevertheless, I just think one of

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Speaker 4: making people feel heard and respected instead of ostracized is

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Speaker 4: a vital part in preventing the worst of the societal

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Speaker 4: division that still afflicts us years on. Jack Tame two

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Speaker 4: ninety two is our text number this morning before ten o'clock.

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Speaker 4: Sounds like a little bit of fun. Hayden Jones isn't

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Speaker 4: to kick us off next right now. It's fourteen minutes

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Speaker 4: past night. I'm Jack Tame, It's Saturday morning, and this

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Speaker 4: is News Talk ZEDB.

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Speaker 1: No better way to kick off your weekend than with

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Speaker 1: Jack Saturday Morning with Jack Team.

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Speaker 3: News Talks V. Thank you your text, Colin.

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Speaker 5: Says Jackie.

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Speaker 4: So right, Jack, regarding your comments on cod of It.

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Speaker 4: As far as I'm concerned, the media did an awful job. Look,

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Speaker 4: I don't think anyone did a perfect job any any

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Speaker 4: a perfect job. I think the media largely did a

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Speaker 4: good job, but I think there are lessons for us

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Speaker 4: think for next time, we're just it's very difficult. But

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Speaker 4: trying to find a respectful, appropriate platform for descending views

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Speaker 4: and I think the media plays a really important role

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Speaker 4: in that. Ninety two ninety two. If you want to

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Speaker 4: send us a message this morning, it's eighteen minutes past nine.

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Speaker 4: Hayden Jones is pitch side this morning. He is coaching

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Speaker 4: his son's football team, just paying us a picture hater.

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Speaker 6: Well, it's a little all tough Gamest Boys High under

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Speaker 6: fifteen Derby. It's black versus white. Okay, it's orange.

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Speaker 4: Yep, yes, are we supporting black or orange?

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Speaker 6: No, we're black. We're coaching black. Right, So we've had

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Speaker 6: a good season. I think in regards to that last texture,

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Speaker 6: it's not the media's soul. It's just your hot jet.

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Speaker 4: Everything's my fault.

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Speaker 6: How have you been as I live.

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Speaker 4: It's been a few years and it has it's great

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Speaker 4: to it's great to hear your voice. It's been far

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Speaker 4: too long. Heavin Melner is taking a well earned break

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Speaker 4: and thankfully, well yeah, and thankfully when you're just the

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Speaker 4: Saturday mornings because you you're a coach, right, yes, yeah, right, okay.

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Speaker 4: Good day, Yeah, very good. No, that's right. So something's

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Speaker 4: taken your your You piqued your interest this week and

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Speaker 4: picked your concern rather. I mean, you were there giving

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Speaker 4: up your time supporting your son's team. But it turns

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Speaker 4: out a whole lot fewer Kiwis are supporting their local

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I find that amazing and like baffling and troubling.

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Speaker 6: They are you know, run and managed by the one

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Speaker 6: time scrolling Instagram, we would have that time in our

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Speaker 6: Like as a parent, you've got to get your kids

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Speaker 6: But you've got to take your kid to the game anyway.

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Speaker 6: You got to get there. But it's like you've gone

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Speaker 6: You've just got to do extra five, just bought two

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Speaker 6: You don't need to know anything about the game. You're

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Speaker 6: some inches at halftime. Yeah, and whatever you don't know,

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Speaker 4: I think that's such a good message. So they reckon that.

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Speaker 4: I Compared to five years ago, clubs in New Zealand

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Speaker 4: have less than half the number of volunteers they had,

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Speaker 4: which is crazy. I suppose that COVID probably has played

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Speaker 4: some role in that. But like you say, you know,

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Speaker 4: the weekend, you're there. Anyway, You've made that, you've made

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Speaker 4: the effort. You just have to go that one step further.

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Speaker 4: But but how do you find it hater? Because I

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Speaker 4: That answers my question. I was going to say, how

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Speaker 4: like describe your coaching style to us? How are you

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Speaker 4: as a sideline parent.

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Speaker 6: it depends on the age, but I've got the moment

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Speaker 6: coaching fourteen and fifteen year old boys. So I do

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Speaker 6: I do? Can maild here? Drawing down again? Right? He

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Speaker 4: Twenty eight minutes past nine on News Talk's EDB before

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Speaker 4: ten o'clock. We got your film picks for this weekend,

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Speaker 4: Andrew Savalas sport I was here this morning. Was Jane

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Speaker 8: The players and coaches would rather win easier than that.

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Speaker 10: Where my luck in the film?

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Speaker 3: I just still need to in the band they ask

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Speaker 4: That is Taylor Swift only Tay Tay could announced her

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Speaker 4: brand new album on sports podcast and still draw gazillions

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Speaker 4: of viewers. So the Life of a show Girl is

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Speaker 4: going to be the title of her twelfth original record.

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Speaker 4: She joined her boyfriend Kansas City Chiefs player Travis Kelcey

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Speaker 4: on his podcast this week for a rare interview appearance,

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Speaker 4: and she revealed the album's cover art. I think the

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Speaker 4: album is going to come out at the start of

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Speaker 4: next month, October third. I think they're going to be

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Speaker 4: releasing Life for a Showgirl, So no doubt there will

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Speaker 4: be considerable hype leading up to that date. What was

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Speaker 4: six seven weeks away? Right now, it is twenty three

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Speaker 4: minutes to ten. Time you get your film picks for

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Speaker 4: this weekend. Francisca Rudkin is here with us this morning.

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Speaker 4: KIODA Good Morning had two films to work through this morning.

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Speaker 4: The first stars Bill Murray and Naomi Watson. Let's have

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Speaker 4: a listen to the friend.

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Speaker 1: I as I need to talk with who is about

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Speaker 1: the dotor?

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Speaker 3: I wanted to ask if you could take him?

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Speaker 12: No, I can't.

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Speaker 3: No, this is what Walter wanted after he died.

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Speaker 13: Why would he say.

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Speaker 10: That you were his best friend?

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Speaker 4: Okay, tell us about the friend Francisca.

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Speaker 14: So I've got a theme today, My themes authors and

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Speaker 14: both the films that we're talking about today. This is

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Speaker 14: an adaptation of Sigrid new News's twenty eighteen novel about

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Speaker 14: a woman dealing with a friend's suicide. It's very heartfelt.

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Speaker 14: It's a tender film, very gracefully acted by Naomi Watts

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Speaker 14: as Iris. She is an author, she's also a teacher,

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Speaker 14: and she has this dear friend, Walter, who she sort

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Speaker 14: of works with and has looked after and managed quite

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Speaker 14: a lot, because Walter's had a complicated life of He's

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Speaker 14: got numerous ex wives and hidden children and like to

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Speaker 14: have affairs with his students and things. So he has

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Speaker 14: quite a complicated past and he passes away. He commits suicide,

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Speaker 14: much to everybody's surprise, and he, as you heard in

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Speaker 14: the trailer, he wishes that Iris would take Apollo his dog.

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Speaker 14: Now his dog is a great dang And this is

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Speaker 14: a very New York based film, and Iris lives in

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Speaker 14: a very small department which is rent controlled and no

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Speaker 14: pets are allowed, so this obviously is going to cause

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Speaker 14: a bit of an issue. And what really happens throughout

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Speaker 14: this film is we kind of watch how, you know,

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Speaker 14: dealing with this dog and what to do with the dog,

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Speaker 14: and the confusion of being sort of asked to look

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Speaker 14: after the dog works alongside just ourn natural reef of

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Speaker 14: dealing with the loss of someone and the confusion around

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Speaker 14: this particular situation why Walter decided to go and be

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Speaker 14: so organized as to you know, playing where his dog was.

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Speaker 15: Going to go anyway.

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Speaker 14: So there's lots of questions, lots to sort of do.

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Speaker 14: What I liked about this film was Naomi Watts is

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Speaker 14: playing a middle aged woman, and she looks like a

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Speaker 14: middle aged woman, and she acts like a middle aged woman,

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Speaker 14: and it's got an authentic, sort of authentic kind of

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Speaker 14: quality to it. Very well acted apparently not as a

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Speaker 14: cerber because the book apparently the book was quite a

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Speaker 14: ceric about Walter, but I love the New York noss

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Speaker 14: of it. Jack and really it's a book about companionship,

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Speaker 14: and it's a book about support and how we all

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Speaker 14: need it in life. And you know, Iris gets it

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Speaker 14: from somewhere she didn't expect.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's so pretty good. Okay, I'm interested in that.

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Speaker 4: So that is the friend that's showing in cinemas at

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Speaker 4: the moment. Stars Bill Murray and Naomi What's next up?

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Speaker 4: Tell us about this wonderfully titled film, Jane Austin Wrecked

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Speaker 4: My Life.

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Speaker 14: So I am loving rom coms at the moment because

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Speaker 14: I feel like a whole lot of directors are coming

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Speaker 14: along going. You know, you don't have to make a

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Speaker 14: rom com in the same formula that they've always been made.

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Speaker 14: And it's a great genre. Let's have some fun with it.

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Speaker 14: You can break the rules a little bit. And this

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Speaker 14: is a French English production and it stars Camille Rutherford

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Speaker 14: as a Gut and a Gut too is an author.

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Speaker 14: She works in this beautiful Parisian bookshop that makes you

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Speaker 14: just want to go to a bookshop immediately. She has

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Speaker 14: writer's block. She's single, She's got this best friend, Felix,

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Speaker 14: so she's not sure whether actually there's something more there.

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Speaker 14: She's a little awkward she overthinks everything, a little clumsy.

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Speaker 14: She's just basically stuck in a rut. And a friend

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Speaker 14: of hers sends in an application for her to attend

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Speaker 14: a Jane Austen Residency writers group and she gets accepted,

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Speaker 14: which and she of course feels like she's very much

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Speaker 14: an impost at this thing, and off she goes. And

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Speaker 14: this is sort of supposed to kind of jolt her

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Speaker 14: out of her rut. It's really charming, It's kind of

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Speaker 14: it's kind of Richard Curtis like, with sort of the

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Speaker 14: delightful kind of clumsiness that the characters have, but not

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Speaker 14: quite as outright funny. But I really grew this character,

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Speaker 14: really grew on me. At first, she's a little a

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Speaker 14: little hard to become fond of, and then I just

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Speaker 14: loved her individuality and the way she just does things

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Speaker 14: in her own little way, and I became really fond

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Speaker 14: of her and hoped for the best. So there's both.

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Speaker 14: These films are sort of the lovely, kind of pleasant

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Speaker 14: Sunday afternoon watchers.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this sounds great. Okay, that's Jane Austin Wrecked My Life.

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Speaker 4: That showing in cinemas now as well. Francisca's first film

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Speaker 4: is The Friend. Hey, Francisca, did you see the New

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Speaker 4: York Times and their big effort to do the hundred

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Speaker 4: best films of the century so far?

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Speaker 14: I guess, But what are they up to?

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Speaker 4: Name number one? Yeah, the name number one? So for

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Speaker 4: anyone who hasn't seen it, they went through this thing

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Speaker 4: where they went and contacted heaps of filmmakers and actors

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Speaker 4: and ride and producers and directors and stuff. And then

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Speaker 4: they also opened it up to public voting.

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Speaker 16: The public.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, And I think they said something like

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Speaker 4: two hundred thousand submissions in the public voting, which is amazing.

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Speaker 4: And so they've got a list of the top hundred

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Speaker 4: films of the century so far. And I went through

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Speaker 4: the list, and I've got to say I was surprised

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Speaker 4: at how it's not how few kind of arty films

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Speaker 4: they were, but I was kind of pastly surprised by

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Speaker 4: how mainstream some of the films were.

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Speaker 17: You know, Yeah, what was number one?

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Speaker 4: Parasite?

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Speaker 14: Oh, I think I have seen that list.

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Speaker 4: I think that's a good call. Parasite, I mean not

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Speaker 4: having seen nearly like I reckon, I've probably seen a

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Speaker 4: quarter of the films on one hundred, maybe slaying more thirty,

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Speaker 4: but I reckon. I mean Parasite. Well, Parasite was a

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Speaker 4: very good film. Yeah, little goal for you. The good

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Speaker 4: thing is I've just got heaps of time at the moment,

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Speaker 4: just heated and heaps of available times. So I'm imagining

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Speaker 4: the conversation next just getting home after the show today,

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Speaker 4: saying to my wife, Look, Francesca sees actually that I

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Speaker 4: just need to spend a whole lot less time looking

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Speaker 4: after the baby and a whole lot more time watching movies.

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Speaker 17: Just give it a will.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah, yeah, we'll turn into another parasite

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Speaker 4: going to film, I think if we're not careful. Hey,

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Speaker 4: thank you so much, have a great weekend and we

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Speaker 4: will catch you some in. Francisca rad Can our film reviewer.

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Speaker 4: This week's picks The Friend and Jane Austin Wrecked My Life.

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Speaker 4: Will have details for both of those up on the

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Speaker 4: News Talks c B website. Jack regarding the time frame, basically,

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Speaker 4: everyone knows the first part was sort of okay. It

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Speaker 4: was the second part that the government and decision makers

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Speaker 4: really got carried away. So I'm just not sure that

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Speaker 4: that's a good enough reason not to include it in

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Speaker 4: the first part, and a couple of other texts not

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Speaker 4: to include the first part of the response in the

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Speaker 4: terms of reference, and a couple of texts have said, oh,

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Speaker 4: we talked about the first part of the response and

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Speaker 4: the first part of the COVID inquiry as well. Again,

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Speaker 4: if it's going to be comprehensive, a good faith effort,

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Speaker 4: you've got to look at the good the bad, right

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Speaker 4: I just yeah, I personally, it's my view that it

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Speaker 4: was a mistake that they that they restricted the second

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Speaker 4: phase of the inquiry to February twenty twenty one onwards,

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Speaker 4: rather than starting with the beginning of the pandemic, or

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Speaker 4: honestly the setup before the pandemic even kicked off. Anyway,

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Speaker 4: thank you for your feedback. Right now, it is sixteen

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Speaker 4: to ten after the break, our cook is here with

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Speaker 4: a delicious recipe for orange and caramel custard filled crepes.

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Speaker 1: Saturday morning with Jack team keeping the conversation going through

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Speaker 1: the weekend US Talk sav.

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Speaker 4: Oh here you go. Mark has flicked a textas a

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Speaker 4: Jack disclaimer, a warning for everyone this morning. You're going

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Speaker 4: to need tissues when you're watching The Friend. Francesca did

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Speaker 4: a great summary I really enjoyed watching it, but it's

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Speaker 4: a tear jerker. Thanks that make ninety two ninety two.

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Speaker 4: If you want to send us a message, time to

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Speaker 4: catch up with our cook, Nikki Wix, who's here with

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Speaker 4: us this morning.

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Speaker 18: Kilder, Yeah, good morning, Jack.

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Speaker 4: You have a delicious sounding recipe, a seasonal recipe. At

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Speaker 4: the moment, do you know I am eating? I always

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Speaker 4: have this problem. Right at my other job for TV's,

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Speaker 4: I have this problem when I'm getting made up in

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Speaker 4: that the makeup ladies always complain that I'm too orange

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Speaker 4: because I eat. I eat a lot of carrots, like

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Speaker 4: I would often have two carrots a day, and then

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Speaker 4: I would And at the moment, I'm eating so many

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Speaker 4: oranges because they're just so good. And it's the cat

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Speaker 4: and you know that your hands, yeah, your hands go

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Speaker 4: out in your orange.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 18: So interesting. I mean, I have no sympathy for you,

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Speaker 18: because you blokes in the industry spinned about two seconds

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Speaker 18: in the makeup cheer and us women have to spend

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Speaker 18: about two hours. So I don't know what story is

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Speaker 18: with that, but I'm kind of happy to hear.

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Speaker 4: That, Nicky. Yeah. Anyway, the point is that orange are

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Speaker 4: amazing at the moment. So this is a sweet seasonal recipe.

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Speaker 18: They are They're just beautiful and look, I was inspired

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Speaker 18: last weekend. I was down at Wellington. You know, we

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Speaker 18: hear a lot on the news about Wellington's dying.

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Speaker 5: It didn't look like it to me.

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Speaker 18: I went to all these restaurants and they were all

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Speaker 18: jam packed full of people. I did go back to

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Speaker 18: the old, the old faves down there. Boy, they have

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Speaker 18: some classic restaurants Bullcott Street, Bistrow, Heaving and a lunchtime

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Speaker 18: on Friday Dulling Old Floriditas and Cuba Street and then

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Speaker 18: Ortiga for sheep, which I never miss. And this is

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Speaker 18: off the dessert menu. So I sort of hastily put

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Speaker 18: this together for one of my cookbooks, actually because I

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Speaker 18: love this diish. I never, I never don't order it,

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Speaker 18: and that might be a double negative anyway. It's orange

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Speaker 18: and caramel custard folled crapes. The trick with a crape

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Speaker 18: when you're making sort of crapstuzettes or whatever is to

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Speaker 18: get them very very thin. These eight no American pancakes.

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Speaker 18: So look about one hundred grams of flour, which is

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Speaker 18: plain flour, which is about half a cup of scant

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Speaker 18: half cup into a big bowl, a pinch of salt

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Speaker 18: in there, and make a well in the middle, and

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Speaker 18: then break in two eggs and then pour in around

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Speaker 18: about one hundred and fifty mills of milk. We're going

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Speaker 18: to use about three hundred meals all up. But first

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Speaker 18: of all, I just like to give all of better

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Speaker 18: whisk together and you gradually, gradually, gradually incorporate the flour

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Speaker 18: from around the sort of sides. You'll have a thick batter.

648
00:33:16,853 --> 00:33:18,813
Speaker 18: Then then you stir in the rest of the milk.

649
00:33:19,573 --> 00:33:22,653
Speaker 18: And I say stir because you don't want to overwhisk

650
00:33:22,733 --> 00:33:25,173
Speaker 18: this flour because all it does is activate the glutens

651
00:33:25,173 --> 00:33:28,933
Speaker 18: and make your crapes quite tough. So then leave that

652
00:33:28,973 --> 00:33:31,013
Speaker 18: batter to rest for about fifteen minutes. Jack, and I

653
00:33:31,013 --> 00:33:34,013
Speaker 18: think that's key again to get a nice tender crape

654
00:33:34,013 --> 00:33:36,893
Speaker 18: at the end of it. Okay, when time to cook,

655
00:33:37,013 --> 00:33:40,133
Speaker 18: this makes about ten to twelve crepes. Heat a little

656
00:33:40,133 --> 00:33:42,493
Speaker 18: bit of oil and kind of a heavy based fry pan,

657
00:33:42,613 --> 00:33:45,293
Speaker 18: I think a better than a thin based one. Pour

658
00:33:45,373 --> 00:33:48,293
Speaker 18: about two to three tablespoons of the batter into the pan,

659
00:33:48,693 --> 00:33:50,733
Speaker 18: and the trick is to pour and tilt as you

660
00:33:50,813 --> 00:33:53,933
Speaker 18: go to get that really thin coating. If you've ever

661
00:33:53,973 --> 00:33:55,973
Speaker 18: been to a sort of farmer's market, you'll see those

662
00:33:56,013 --> 00:34:00,373
Speaker 18: beautiful French people making gallettes and they are sort of

663
00:34:00,573 --> 00:34:02,813
Speaker 18: they use another tool that kind of spreads it out,

664
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Speaker 18: but we don't have those at home. So just tilting

665
00:34:05,013 --> 00:34:07,693
Speaker 18: that pan all around until you've got a beautiful thin

666
00:34:07,813 --> 00:34:11,133
Speaker 18: coat up. The first pancake is never your best pancakes,

667
00:34:11,173 --> 00:34:14,333
Speaker 18: so do not do not mind about that, okay, and

668
00:34:14,373 --> 00:34:16,813
Speaker 18: then the second one will be better, and about thirty

669
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Speaker 18: to sixty seconds until it's kind of got golden freckles

670
00:34:19,773 --> 00:34:22,053
Speaker 18: on the underside on the pan side of it, flip

671
00:34:22,053 --> 00:34:24,573
Speaker 18: it over, cook it for another thirty to sixty seconds,

672
00:34:24,613 --> 00:34:26,773
Speaker 18: and I just don't know how hot your stovetop is,

673
00:34:26,813 --> 00:34:29,773
Speaker 18: hence the thirty to sixty seconds. Repeat with all the

674
00:34:29,773 --> 00:34:33,573
Speaker 18: remaining better and leave them to cool at this stage.

675
00:34:33,573 --> 00:34:35,533
Speaker 18: And then they can if you're not serving them immediately,

676
00:34:35,613 --> 00:34:38,173
Speaker 18: they can sit there covered, you know, for a day

677
00:34:38,333 --> 00:34:40,253
Speaker 18: or so, you know, before you do it. And then

678
00:34:40,533 --> 00:34:42,413
Speaker 18: I'm going to fill it with and I'm sure it'll teager.

679
00:34:42,453 --> 00:34:45,653
Speaker 18: They make some beautiful cream potissier, but I use because

680
00:34:45,653 --> 00:34:48,333
Speaker 18: I'm a little bit hacky sometimes half a cup of

681
00:34:48,373 --> 00:34:51,733
Speaker 18: straw bought thick custard. I love the neadle lee, love

682
00:34:51,773 --> 00:34:55,293
Speaker 18: that meadow lee. It's a good one. And mix that

683
00:34:55,573 --> 00:34:58,413
Speaker 18: with some softy whipped cream and then you've got a

684
00:34:58,453 --> 00:35:00,973
Speaker 18: sort of cheats clean pat if you like. And when

685
00:35:00,973 --> 00:35:02,773
Speaker 18: it comes time to serve these, you want a dadd

686
00:35:02,813 --> 00:35:06,213
Speaker 18: a sort of heat teaspoon of custard into one quarter

687
00:35:06,533 --> 00:35:09,013
Speaker 18: the crapes and then fold the crape in half, then

688
00:35:09,053 --> 00:35:11,733
Speaker 18: over it to form a triangle. Then you're going to

689
00:35:11,773 --> 00:35:13,613
Speaker 18: sort of warm these in a pan when it comes

690
00:35:13,653 --> 00:35:16,453
Speaker 18: time to serve them, Jack, and I'm gonna I'm going

691
00:35:16,493 --> 00:35:19,413
Speaker 18: to suggest you serve them with this orange caramel sauce.

692
00:35:20,133 --> 00:35:22,173
Speaker 18: And it's easy. Half a cup of cast of sugar

693
00:35:22,853 --> 00:35:24,693
Speaker 18: into a pan or a salt spin if you like,

694
00:35:24,773 --> 00:35:29,093
Speaker 18: three tablespoons of water, the zest and juice of one orange.

695
00:35:29,133 --> 00:35:32,013
Speaker 18: So it's really zesty. It's really punchy with all that

696
00:35:32,053 --> 00:35:35,573
Speaker 18: orange juice, and you really want to heat that until well,

697
00:35:35,573 --> 00:35:37,413
Speaker 18: you actually want to heat the sugar and the water

698
00:35:37,813 --> 00:35:40,413
Speaker 18: until it's the sort of a dark caramel color and

699
00:35:40,613 --> 00:35:43,333
Speaker 18: let it bubble and deepen in that color. Then add

700
00:35:43,373 --> 00:35:45,773
Speaker 18: your juice and also a little splash of brandy or

701
00:35:45,893 --> 00:35:47,613
Speaker 18: rum if you like, just.

702
00:35:47,573 --> 00:35:50,813
Speaker 13: Gives it that little lead, oh little edge, little.

703
00:35:50,653 --> 00:35:53,133
Speaker 18: Edge, similar it off so that you cook that alcohol off.

704
00:35:53,133 --> 00:35:54,733
Speaker 18: You don't have to do the alcohol. The orange juice

705
00:35:54,773 --> 00:35:57,573
Speaker 18: is fine, and then after a few minutes you'll notice

706
00:35:57,573 --> 00:35:59,773
Speaker 18: that it's nice and thick, and that's sort of that's

707
00:35:59,813 --> 00:36:03,213
Speaker 18: a nice pouring consistency. So then when you're ready to

708
00:36:03,253 --> 00:36:06,053
Speaker 18: serve return all your love, you have folded crape parcels

709
00:36:06,053 --> 00:36:09,573
Speaker 18: into the pan. They can overlap, slightly, drizzle in the

710
00:36:09,613 --> 00:36:12,853
Speaker 18: caramel sauce, and then gently heat it until the crapes

711
00:36:12,893 --> 00:36:15,893
Speaker 18: are really warmed through. Serve it all with a dollup

712
00:36:15,893 --> 00:36:18,333
Speaker 18: of whipped cream. Pure delicious.

713
00:36:18,533 --> 00:36:20,533
Speaker 4: Sounds Yeah, this was.

714
00:36:20,493 --> 00:36:24,613
Speaker 18: Only if you can't get to Wellington, okay a yeah, yeah, yeah,

715
00:36:24,773 --> 00:36:27,253
Speaker 18: I mean it's really good. I mean I grew up

716
00:36:27,253 --> 00:36:29,213
Speaker 18: on crapsyzettes. My meus to cook them all the time

717
00:36:29,213 --> 00:36:31,653
Speaker 18: at dinner parties and she would have us making sort

718
00:36:31,653 --> 00:36:35,013
Speaker 18: of forty and fifty crapes all day. So I love those.

719
00:36:35,053 --> 00:36:38,213
Speaker 18: But this is just it's just it's magical having a

720
00:36:38,213 --> 00:36:40,093
Speaker 18: little bit of custard in there. It's amazing.

721
00:36:40,333 --> 00:36:42,813
Speaker 4: Yeah, that sounds amazing. It does. Thank you so much,

722
00:36:42,853 --> 00:36:44,893
Speaker 4: NICKI we'll make sure that recipe is up at newstalks

723
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Speaker 4: heb dot co dot Nz so you can cook along

724
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Speaker 4: at home. Right now it is seven to ten.

725
00:36:50,893 --> 00:36:53,933
Speaker 3: Giving you the inside scoop on them all you need.

726
00:36:53,813 --> 00:36:58,253
Speaker 1: To know this Saturday Morning with Jack Team News Talks.

727
00:36:58,533 --> 00:37:02,133
Speaker 4: Oh, I'll make George Clark. You know, he of George

728
00:37:02,133 --> 00:37:05,573
Speaker 4: Clark's Amazing Spaces. He has a brand new show. We're

729
00:37:05,613 --> 00:37:06,813
Speaker 4: going to tell you a bit more about it after

730
00:37:06,813 --> 00:37:08,613
Speaker 4: ten o'clock this morning. It sounds so good though. It's

731
00:37:08,613 --> 00:37:12,173
Speaker 4: called Homes in the Wild and basically he travels around

732
00:37:12,173 --> 00:37:15,733
Speaker 4: New Zealand and Australia and he visits quite remote homes

733
00:37:17,293 --> 00:37:19,133
Speaker 4: and some of them are just incredible the way they've

734
00:37:19,213 --> 00:37:21,133
Speaker 4: kind of been built into the landscape. Some of them

735
00:37:21,173 --> 00:37:23,173
Speaker 4: are totally hidden, some of them really stand out. Anyway.

736
00:37:23,213 --> 00:37:24,453
Speaker 4: I don't want to give too much away, but we're

737
00:37:24,453 --> 00:37:25,733
Speaker 4: going to tell you a bit more about that after

738
00:37:25,733 --> 00:37:27,333
Speaker 4: ten o'clock this morning, and we'll let you know where

739
00:37:27,413 --> 00:37:30,693
Speaker 4: you can watch it at home as well. And don't

740
00:37:30,693 --> 00:37:33,773
Speaker 4: forget our feature interview right after the ten o'clock News

741
00:37:33,813 --> 00:37:38,773
Speaker 4: this morning. Is lead guitarist for legendary old band Pixies.

742
00:37:38,853 --> 00:37:43,053
Speaker 4: Pixies have been around probably while now, and they've been

743
00:37:43,053 --> 00:37:44,413
Speaker 4: in New Zealand a couple of times. I think they

744
00:37:44,413 --> 00:37:47,813
Speaker 4: were last year last year, But they're coming back with

745
00:37:47,973 --> 00:37:51,653
Speaker 4: this really interesting idea for a couple of different shows

746
00:37:51,653 --> 00:37:54,013
Speaker 4: that they're going to be playing two different nights in

747
00:37:54,093 --> 00:37:57,933
Speaker 4: both Auckland and Wellington, and one night they're going to

748
00:37:57,973 --> 00:38:01,253
Speaker 4: play two albums back to back, like just as they

749
00:38:01,253 --> 00:38:04,493
Speaker 4: are on the album tracking track list, They're just going

750
00:38:04,533 --> 00:38:06,053
Speaker 4: to play them back to back and that actually is

751
00:38:06,053 --> 00:38:07,613
Speaker 4: going to call a few issues. And then for the

752
00:38:07,653 --> 00:38:09,613
Speaker 4: second night of their shows, they're going to play the

753
00:38:09,693 --> 00:38:13,053
Speaker 4: kind of standard typical Pixies gig where they play a

754
00:38:13,053 --> 00:38:15,053
Speaker 4: few old classics and that kind of thing. So anyway,

755
00:38:15,133 --> 00:38:20,293
Speaker 4: Joey Santiago, who lets me onnest, just has like with

756
00:38:20,413 --> 00:38:22,653
Speaker 4: a name like that, as parents must have known the

757
00:38:22,653 --> 00:38:25,133
Speaker 4: second he said I want to play guitar, they were like, oh, well,

758
00:38:25,293 --> 00:38:27,133
Speaker 4: it's get to mc grammy right now, because our kid

759
00:38:27,213 --> 00:38:29,453
Speaker 4: is going to be a superstar. He's going to be

760
00:38:29,493 --> 00:38:31,453
Speaker 4: with us as our feature interview right after the ten

761
00:38:31,453 --> 00:38:33,573
Speaker 4: o'clock news next up, though our news team will leave

762
00:38:33,613 --> 00:38:35,573
Speaker 4: you know what's happening in Alaska, but Donald Trump and

763
00:38:35,693 --> 00:38:39,653
Speaker 4: Vladimir Putin as this historic summit continues. It's almost ten o'clock.

764
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Speaker 4: I'm Jack Tayne, It's Saturday morning, and this is News Talks.

765
00:38:42,413 --> 00:38:42,733
Speaker 10: He'd be.

766
00:38:52,853 --> 00:38:56,613
Speaker 1: Cracking way to start his Saturday Saturday Morning with Jack

767
00:38:56,693 --> 00:38:58,253
Speaker 1: Team News Talks at.

768
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Speaker 10: Me with where is My Mind?

769
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Speaker 4: Where is My mane Yes, Pixies changed the alt rock

770
00:39:38,013 --> 00:39:42,933
Speaker 4: game forever. That's Pixies with Where is My Mind? Just

771
00:39:42,973 --> 00:39:46,653
Speaker 4: that opening? Okay, so good. The legendary band out of Boston,

772
00:39:46,653 --> 00:39:50,293
Speaker 4: Massachusetts have been credited by the likes of Kirk Cobain

773
00:39:50,453 --> 00:39:53,733
Speaker 4: for they're off the wall guitar shredding influence and very

774
00:39:53,733 --> 00:39:56,013
Speaker 4: soon Pixies are going to be back here on New

775
00:39:56,093 --> 00:39:59,573
Speaker 4: Zealand Shores with a very special set of shows. So

776
00:39:59,613 --> 00:40:02,133
Speaker 4: they're going to be playing two nights each in both

777
00:40:02,173 --> 00:40:04,413
Speaker 4: Auckland and Wellington. On the first night, they're going to

778
00:40:04,453 --> 00:40:08,773
Speaker 4: play classic Pixies albums Boston Over and tromp Lemont in

779
00:40:08,813 --> 00:40:11,373
Speaker 4: their entirety, and then the second night is going to

780
00:40:11,373 --> 00:40:14,613
Speaker 4: be a more traditional kind of classic Pixie's greatest hits

781
00:40:14,653 --> 00:40:18,173
Speaker 4: set and a man who occupies stage right who's been

782
00:40:18,213 --> 00:40:20,773
Speaker 4: at every single Pixies gig that has ever been as

783
00:40:20,893 --> 00:40:24,893
Speaker 4: guitarist Joey Santiago here and I sat down yesterday and

784
00:40:24,933 --> 00:40:27,013
Speaker 4: I began by welcoming to the show.

785
00:40:27,493 --> 00:40:30,453
Speaker 19: Oh, thank you for having me, and yeah, hopefully you

786
00:40:30,493 --> 00:40:33,373
Speaker 19: guys are having a beautiful sun Saturday morning.

787
00:40:33,613 --> 00:40:36,813
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, hey, you are doing things a little bit differently.

788
00:40:37,013 --> 00:40:40,013
Speaker 4: This tour is a little bit different to previous Pixies tour.

789
00:40:40,093 --> 00:40:42,653
Speaker 4: Just give us an explanation about the different shows.

790
00:40:43,453 --> 00:40:47,333
Speaker 19: Okay, so we're doing two nights. So the first night

791
00:40:47,493 --> 00:40:54,093
Speaker 19: is going to be BOSTONOVA and Trump Lamont albums, all

792
00:40:54,213 --> 00:41:00,333
Speaker 19: in sequential order, just the way it's listed. And the

793
00:41:00,413 --> 00:41:03,773
Speaker 19: second night will be we call it our general set,

794
00:41:03,813 --> 00:41:09,173
Speaker 19: which will be just like a mishmash of every things

795
00:41:09,173 --> 00:41:12,333
Speaker 19: from the other catalogs, and you know, we'll concentrate on

796
00:41:12,373 --> 00:41:14,933
Speaker 19: some of the new Stuffy a new album.

797
00:41:15,453 --> 00:41:17,013
Speaker 4: Nice. So why did you why did you want to

798
00:41:17,053 --> 00:41:18,413
Speaker 4: do things differently? Why do you want to do the

799
00:41:18,413 --> 00:41:21,253
Speaker 4: two quite distinct shows?

800
00:41:22,013 --> 00:41:29,333
Speaker 19: You know, we don't we first of all, selflessly, for me,

801
00:41:29,973 --> 00:41:33,013
Speaker 19: we get to stay in the same.

802
00:41:32,613 --> 00:41:35,733
Speaker 9: City twice, two nights, two days.

803
00:41:35,573 --> 00:41:37,973
Speaker 19: And I get to look around and relax, you know,

804
00:41:38,093 --> 00:41:41,413
Speaker 19: So that's good for us. And also you know, for

805
00:41:41,493 --> 00:41:44,853
Speaker 19: the for the fans out there, you know, they get

806
00:41:45,013 --> 00:41:47,533
Speaker 19: two different shows if they choose to go.

807
00:41:47,453 --> 00:41:48,213
Speaker 9: To two shows.

808
00:41:48,293 --> 00:41:51,853
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think people will. But it's you know,

809
00:41:51,933 --> 00:41:54,613
Speaker 4: remarkable to reflect on things a little bit. So Boss

810
00:41:54,613 --> 00:41:56,933
Speaker 4: and Over, I think, is what thirty five years old?

811
00:41:57,013 --> 00:41:59,133
Speaker 4: This year Trump? My mom must be what thirty four

812
00:41:59,213 --> 00:42:02,813
Speaker 4: years old? How do you reflect on those albums?

813
00:42:03,373 --> 00:42:08,213
Speaker 19: Well, it was a long time, I know, you know,

814
00:42:08,373 --> 00:42:10,413
Speaker 19: every time we make a record.

815
00:42:10,293 --> 00:42:17,373
Speaker 12: I'm proud of it. After a little while, the first,

816
00:42:17,493 --> 00:42:19,533
Speaker 12: you know, when I get home, I go, god, damn,

817
00:42:19,613 --> 00:42:21,213
Speaker 12: did I do everything that?

818
00:42:21,573 --> 00:42:21,773
Speaker 7: You know?

819
00:42:21,853 --> 00:42:24,493
Speaker 19: Did I was it? Did I do everything I can?

820
00:42:24,573 --> 00:42:25,813
Speaker 19: Did I give it a hundred percent?

821
00:42:26,173 --> 00:42:26,733
Speaker 5: But I do?

822
00:42:27,293 --> 00:42:30,133
Speaker 9: You know, but it's like, you know, what's more than

823
00:42:30,133 --> 00:42:31,333
Speaker 9: one hundred percent? Really?

824
00:42:31,533 --> 00:42:31,973
Speaker 20: Yeah?

825
00:42:32,013 --> 00:42:34,893
Speaker 9: That's it. You just put it out, you know, that's it.

826
00:42:35,933 --> 00:42:40,213
Speaker 4: Do you find yourself reflecting on, you know, the different

827
00:42:40,253 --> 00:42:42,813
Speaker 4: creative choices you made thirty five years ago? When you

828
00:42:42,893 --> 00:42:45,173
Speaker 4: when you're forced to go and reflect on an album,

829
00:42:45,373 --> 00:42:48,093
Speaker 4: even things like like the sequencing of tracks and that

830
00:42:48,213 --> 00:42:50,173
Speaker 4: kind of thing, do you do you find yourself going? Man,

831
00:42:50,813 --> 00:42:53,333
Speaker 4: if I were writing buston Over today, I would do

832
00:42:53,493 --> 00:42:54,613
Speaker 4: something a bit differently.

833
00:42:57,773 --> 00:43:03,573
Speaker 19: No, I think the albums were sequenced right correctly. The

834
00:43:03,613 --> 00:43:07,293
Speaker 19: only thing that, you know, how, and we thought about

835
00:43:07,293 --> 00:43:12,013
Speaker 19: that we were going to do this live, we would

836
00:43:12,653 --> 00:43:15,773
Speaker 19: we would sequence it better, so we don't change guitars

837
00:43:15,813 --> 00:43:16,373
Speaker 19: as often.

838
00:43:18,013 --> 00:43:19,893
Speaker 4: How many guitars do you have to bring on tour?

839
00:43:21,293 --> 00:43:26,413
Speaker 19: I have, you know, it's not that much comparatively, I

840
00:43:26,613 --> 00:43:32,573
Speaker 19: bring let's see.

841
00:43:30,213 --> 00:43:34,333
Speaker 9: Four, four guitars, Yeah, yeah it is.

842
00:43:34,573 --> 00:43:36,733
Speaker 4: It is four Gibson's.

843
00:43:37,733 --> 00:43:42,173
Speaker 19: Ah, yes, three less bars and one three forty five.

844
00:43:42,453 --> 00:43:47,853
Speaker 4: Yeah, wonderful. So so the thirty fifth anniversary of Boston over.

845
00:43:47,973 --> 00:43:50,573
Speaker 4: But when I was doing the numbers for Pixies, I

846
00:43:50,653 --> 00:43:54,533
Speaker 4: realized that what has been described as the band's second

847
00:43:54,573 --> 00:44:00,413
Speaker 4: wave is now a longer period than your first wave together.

848
00:44:00,613 --> 00:44:03,333
Speaker 4: So I guess this is like the yeah, which which is?

849
00:44:03,693 --> 00:44:05,933
Speaker 4: I mean, it's funny how these things kind of kind

850
00:44:05,933 --> 00:44:08,413
Speaker 4: of catch up up on you. How do you personally

851
00:44:08,453 --> 00:44:12,773
Speaker 4: differentiate between the two different Pixies waves.

852
00:44:13,853 --> 00:44:22,813
Speaker 19: Well, the first wave, what for me was I was

853
00:44:22,853 --> 00:44:27,933
Speaker 19: trying to have fun the whole time. Yeah, and it

854
00:44:28,013 --> 00:44:30,373
Speaker 19: is fun, I get it, you know what I mean?

855
00:44:30,973 --> 00:44:35,053
Speaker 19: And uh, this time around, it's the balance of fun

856
00:44:35,333 --> 00:44:38,973
Speaker 19: and work, which is not a I'm not saying that

857
00:44:39,053 --> 00:44:42,413
Speaker 19: in a negative way at all. It's just a healthier

858
00:44:42,453 --> 00:44:43,893
Speaker 19: way for me to look at it.

859
00:44:44,773 --> 00:44:45,893
Speaker 4: That's interesting. Why is that?

860
00:44:48,373 --> 00:44:52,813
Speaker 19: You know, It's it's just you just gotta put it

861
00:44:52,893 --> 00:44:56,053
Speaker 19: out there. You gotta just play your best. You gotta

862
00:44:56,093 --> 00:44:59,813
Speaker 19: be at nine o'clock. You gotta have, you gotta have,

863
00:45:01,493 --> 00:45:05,053
Speaker 19: you gotta be at your optimal best. You know, I'm

864
00:45:05,093 --> 00:45:08,533
Speaker 19: not out there personally, you know, I'm not out there

865
00:45:09,813 --> 00:45:12,373
Speaker 19: belly up at some barn and going to do the shell.

866
00:45:12,813 --> 00:45:13,293
Speaker 3: Yeah.

867
00:45:13,653 --> 00:45:16,933
Speaker 4: So, and was that the case in the nineties.

868
00:45:17,813 --> 00:45:20,453
Speaker 9: Yeah, sorry, no.

869
00:45:20,373 --> 00:45:21,613
Speaker 4: It's it's fine.

870
00:45:21,733 --> 00:45:25,493
Speaker 19: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was exactly like that.

871
00:45:25,573 --> 00:45:25,813
Speaker 17: Yeah.

872
00:45:25,973 --> 00:45:28,053
Speaker 4: It's kind of the key to longevity, right, It's it

873
00:45:28,093 --> 00:45:30,293
Speaker 4: seems like the least rock and roll thing in the world.

874
00:45:30,333 --> 00:45:34,813
Speaker 4: But actually, like routine is kind of critical if you

875
00:45:34,853 --> 00:45:38,333
Speaker 4: want to be doing what you love. You know, after

876
00:45:38,533 --> 00:45:42,333
Speaker 4: after more than three decades of doing it, actually you

877
00:45:42,413 --> 00:45:45,133
Speaker 4: can't be necessarily living like you once did.

878
00:45:46,733 --> 00:45:50,453
Speaker 2: I mean, you know what, it's it's it becomes that

879
00:45:50,573 --> 00:45:54,733
Speaker 2: and you gotta like count your count your lucky stars

880
00:45:54,773 --> 00:45:56,733
Speaker 2: that this is the work I have.

881
00:45:57,453 --> 00:46:01,053
Speaker 19: Yeah, you know, I can't imagine doing anything else.

882
00:46:02,933 --> 00:46:05,533
Speaker 9: So yeah, I love it. I love it. And I

883
00:46:05,613 --> 00:46:07,853
Speaker 9: love the way I you know, I treat it.

884
00:46:09,093 --> 00:46:13,493
Speaker 19: I treat it very seriously and hopefully it comes across

885
00:46:13,613 --> 00:46:14,413
Speaker 19: that way, you know.

886
00:46:15,293 --> 00:46:18,213
Speaker 9: I mean, you know, I know there, you know, I mean,

887
00:46:19,333 --> 00:46:23,093
Speaker 9: that's the truth. Guys, you know, yeah, that is the truth. Well,

888
00:46:23,133 --> 00:46:27,933
Speaker 9: you know, we're doing this to be of service the

889
00:46:27,933 --> 00:46:28,893
Speaker 9: best we can do.

890
00:46:28,933 --> 00:46:32,733
Speaker 4: You find do you find yourself noticing a greater sense

891
00:46:32,733 --> 00:46:35,253
Speaker 4: of gratitude than you did previously?

892
00:46:35,773 --> 00:46:36,053
Speaker 17: Yeah?

893
00:46:36,133 --> 00:46:37,013
Speaker 9: I do. I do.

894
00:46:37,293 --> 00:46:40,413
Speaker 19: I do, even when I have to like shut down

895
00:46:40,493 --> 00:46:44,653
Speaker 19: at four pm because I know, I can't socialize, I

896
00:46:44,653 --> 00:46:46,813
Speaker 19: can't do anything. I just have to be in my

897
00:46:46,973 --> 00:46:51,493
Speaker 19: room and just getting ready for it.

898
00:46:51,773 --> 00:46:54,653
Speaker 9: I'm getting ready for something I love to do, you know.

899
00:46:56,733 --> 00:47:02,373
Speaker 19: And that's that's part of the work is really uh,

900
00:47:03,093 --> 00:47:06,573
Speaker 19: you know, everything else, you know, it's more important the

901
00:47:06,613 --> 00:47:11,413
Speaker 19: good diet, the exercise and all that stuff.

902
00:47:11,453 --> 00:47:14,933
Speaker 9: It's just gearing up for something I love to do.

903
00:47:15,333 --> 00:47:15,853
Speaker 5: Yeah.

904
00:47:16,373 --> 00:47:19,573
Speaker 4: What about the relationships within the band? Do you notice

905
00:47:19,573 --> 00:47:24,173
Speaker 4: that you know that that with the wisdom of a

906
00:47:24,173 --> 00:47:26,933
Speaker 4: couple of decades under the belt, now that that your

907
00:47:26,973 --> 00:47:29,493
Speaker 4: relationships have changed in the way that you work, the

908
00:47:29,493 --> 00:47:32,493
Speaker 4: way that you guys go about your style, whether it's

909
00:47:32,493 --> 00:47:34,093
Speaker 4: writing music, or performing it together.

910
00:47:36,493 --> 00:47:38,973
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know before the show.

911
00:47:40,853 --> 00:47:45,533
Speaker 19: An hour before the show, we're all in there practicing.

912
00:47:47,373 --> 00:47:50,413
Speaker 19: It's for you know, for Charles to warm up his voice,

913
00:47:50,493 --> 00:47:53,733
Speaker 19: and then we go over some songs and we have

914
00:47:53,813 --> 00:47:54,453
Speaker 19: fun with it.

915
00:47:54,533 --> 00:47:54,733
Speaker 16: You know.

916
00:47:55,613 --> 00:47:59,773
Speaker 19: I I tend to mess around with with it and

917
00:48:00,613 --> 00:48:02,333
Speaker 19: I play like silly stuff.

918
00:48:02,213 --> 00:48:03,173
Speaker 9: Other silly stuff.

919
00:48:03,693 --> 00:48:04,613
Speaker 4: How do you mean what what?

920
00:48:04,613 --> 00:48:04,853
Speaker 7: What?

921
00:48:04,853 --> 00:48:06,133
Speaker 4: What kind of silly stuff do you play?

922
00:48:07,133 --> 00:48:11,093
Speaker 9: Just noodling? Yeah, noodling, uh, noodling stuff. You know.

923
00:48:11,613 --> 00:48:13,893
Speaker 19: It's like, hey, if you if you had a blues guy,

924
00:48:14,013 --> 00:48:15,933
Speaker 19: this is what the songs are gonna sound.

925
00:48:16,053 --> 00:48:21,413
Speaker 4: Yeah. So I think your kids are in your twenties

926
00:48:21,453 --> 00:48:25,653
Speaker 4: now right, and relatively recently they've been they've been coming

927
00:48:25,653 --> 00:48:28,013
Speaker 4: to a few Pixie shows. What is that experience?

928
00:48:28,173 --> 00:48:34,373
Speaker 9: Like, you know that they're inviting their friends.

929
00:48:35,533 --> 00:48:39,893
Speaker 19: What it is is when they were like in elementary

930
00:48:39,933 --> 00:48:42,933
Speaker 19: school that's what we call you in fifth grade, they

931
00:48:43,173 --> 00:48:46,893
Speaker 19: they just didn't know because what I did and what

932
00:48:46,933 --> 00:48:47,813
Speaker 19: the band was.

933
00:48:47,893 --> 00:48:48,893
Speaker 9: They had no clue.

934
00:48:49,813 --> 00:48:53,493
Speaker 19: And I told them, you know, when you get into

935
00:48:53,573 --> 00:48:56,773
Speaker 19: high school, you're going to realize you're going to see

936
00:48:56,653 --> 00:49:00,493
Speaker 19: ye And sure enough, you know, they did.

937
00:49:00,893 --> 00:49:02,853
Speaker 9: They were classroomates. Now they're in college.

938
00:49:02,973 --> 00:49:07,373
Speaker 19: They's it's just everywhere you know where We're lucky, you know,

939
00:49:07,413 --> 00:49:16,533
Speaker 19: we're the band is popular in the college circuit, you know,

940
00:49:16,853 --> 00:49:19,213
Speaker 19: if they want to, you know, because college is the time.

941
00:49:19,133 --> 00:49:21,493
Speaker 9: You to explore other forms of everything.

942
00:49:24,013 --> 00:49:28,933
Speaker 4: And I suppose you've got past the point where they

943
00:49:28,973 --> 00:49:32,413
Speaker 4: think you're not cool and you're kind of whereas it's

944
00:49:32,453 --> 00:49:34,493
Speaker 4: like a second a second wave for the band, you're

945
00:49:34,493 --> 00:49:37,773
Speaker 4: probably also in their estimation and a second you know,

946
00:49:37,813 --> 00:49:39,693
Speaker 4: in a kind of second stage where all of a sudden,

947
00:49:39,733 --> 00:49:44,253
Speaker 4: actually having dad, you know, shreding for Pixies is like

948
00:49:44,333 --> 00:49:46,773
Speaker 4: an amazing is an amazing thing to be able to

949
00:49:46,773 --> 00:49:47,613
Speaker 4: boast to your friends.

950
00:49:49,093 --> 00:49:51,293
Speaker 9: Yeah, you would think they'd behave more, but they don't.

951
00:49:53,053 --> 00:49:56,453
Speaker 4: Funny that, Hey, we really appreciate your time. We are

952
00:49:56,493 --> 00:49:58,533
Speaker 4: delighted that you're going to be playing in New Zealand

953
00:49:58,573 --> 00:50:01,413
Speaker 4: once again. So Pixies twenty twenty five New Zealand Tour

954
00:50:01,493 --> 00:50:05,013
Speaker 4: has a two night residency in each city, Auckland's Town

955
00:50:05,053 --> 00:50:07,453
Speaker 4: Hall on November twenty thre in twenty fourth and the

956
00:50:07,453 --> 00:50:10,133
Speaker 4: Saint James Theater in Wellington on the twenty sixth and

957
00:50:10,133 --> 00:50:12,493
Speaker 4: twenty seventh of November. All of the details will be

958
00:50:12,533 --> 00:50:15,053
Speaker 4: on the News Talks EDB website. Joey, thank you so much.

959
00:50:15,093 --> 00:50:16,373
Speaker 4: We can't wait to see you here soon.

960
00:50:17,493 --> 00:50:18,813
Speaker 9: I'm looking forward to it too.

961
00:50:19,213 --> 00:50:22,973
Speaker 4: That is Joey Santiago from Pixies Before eleven o'clock on

962
00:50:23,053 --> 00:50:25,253
Speaker 4: News talks 'B. We're in the garden and we're catching

963
00:50:25,333 --> 00:50:29,133
Speaker 4: up with our personal finance expert who is taking some

964
00:50:29,333 --> 00:50:34,013
Speaker 4: critical money lessons from one of the world's best known athletes.

965
00:50:34,613 --> 00:50:36,613
Speaker 4: And I know what you're thinking, athletes and money. You're

966
00:50:36,653 --> 00:50:39,013
Speaker 4: thinking the athletes who are worth two billion dollars and

967
00:50:39,133 --> 00:50:41,533
Speaker 4: end up squandering it all and have to declare bankruptcy

968
00:50:41,533 --> 00:50:43,253
Speaker 4: three times. No, no, no, this is not like a Mike

969
00:50:43,333 --> 00:50:46,253
Speaker 4: Tyson story or anything like that. These are really good

970
00:50:46,333 --> 00:50:50,133
Speaker 4: lessons that we can take about money from the way

971
00:50:50,213 --> 00:50:53,013
Speaker 4: this person played their sport. I'll give you a few

972
00:50:53,013 --> 00:50:55,413
Speaker 4: more details on that very soon. Next up, if you're

973
00:50:55,413 --> 00:50:57,813
Speaker 4: looking for something good to watch or to stream at

974
00:50:57,853 --> 00:51:01,253
Speaker 4: home this weekend, our screen time expert has her three picks,

975
00:51:01,293 --> 00:51:04,653
Speaker 4: her three shows to recommend. It's nineteen past ten.

976
00:51:06,373 --> 00:51:09,733
Speaker 1: On your weekend, Off the Right Way Saturday Morning with

977
00:51:09,933 --> 00:51:11,413
Speaker 1: Jack Dahim News Talks.

978
00:51:11,413 --> 00:51:14,093
Speaker 4: There be twenty one past ten, Time to catch up

979
00:51:14,093 --> 00:51:16,893
Speaker 4: with our screen time expert. It's Tara Award's job to

980
00:51:16,933 --> 00:51:19,973
Speaker 4: come to us every week with three shows to watch

981
00:51:20,053 --> 00:51:22,973
Speaker 4: your stream at home, and she's here. Now kill Totara.

982
00:51:23,773 --> 00:51:25,293
Speaker 4: We're going to kick things off this morning with a

983
00:51:25,293 --> 00:51:28,013
Speaker 4: show streaming on TV and Z plus. Tell us about

984
00:51:28,133 --> 00:51:29,933
Speaker 4: Reunion here.

985
00:51:29,933 --> 00:51:32,533
Speaker 21: This is a new British thriller made by the BBC,

986
00:51:32,853 --> 00:51:35,413
Speaker 21: and in a lot of ways, it's a pretty standard

987
00:51:35,453 --> 00:51:38,133
Speaker 21: drama about a man seeking revenge.

988
00:51:37,733 --> 00:51:38,613
Speaker 6: For a murder.

989
00:51:38,773 --> 00:51:40,653
Speaker 21: But there's an element of a story that really makes

990
00:51:40,733 --> 00:51:43,133
Speaker 21: the show stand out, and that's because the main character

991
00:51:43,213 --> 00:51:45,573
Speaker 21: of the show is deaf. This is about a man

992
00:51:45,653 --> 00:51:48,493
Speaker 21: named Daniel who is released from prison after a ten

993
00:51:48,573 --> 00:51:53,133
Speaker 21: year sentence for murder. He returns home to Sheffield, is

994
00:51:53,973 --> 00:51:56,733
Speaker 21: ostracized by his friends and family. He's not welcome because

995
00:51:56,733 --> 00:52:00,293
Speaker 21: of the crime he committed, and he becomes determined to

996
00:52:00,453 --> 00:52:04,653
Speaker 21: seek revenge. It's not clear why the crime happened or

997
00:52:04,653 --> 00:52:07,093
Speaker 21: why he did it, but he's got nothing to lose

998
00:52:07,333 --> 00:52:10,013
Speaker 21: until he reunites with his daughter, who really needs him

999
00:52:10,133 --> 00:52:13,813
Speaker 21: to stay out of prison. And because Daniel and many

1000
00:52:13,853 --> 00:52:16,093
Speaker 21: of other characters in the show are deaf, there's a

1001
00:52:16,133 --> 00:52:18,493
Speaker 21: lot of British sign language used in the show, and

1002
00:52:18,533 --> 00:52:23,693
Speaker 21: the drama moves really smoothly between sign language and spoken language. So,

1003
00:52:24,173 --> 00:52:26,333
Speaker 21: as I said, in lots of ways, it's a pretty

1004
00:52:26,373 --> 00:52:30,013
Speaker 21: standard crime thriller, but because Daniel is deaf, and because

1005
00:52:30,013 --> 00:52:33,413
Speaker 21: you see the world through his perspective, it's telling a

1006
00:52:33,453 --> 00:52:36,693
Speaker 21: familiar story in quite a new, thought provoking way. It's

1007
00:52:36,693 --> 00:52:39,573
Speaker 21: a father and daughter story. It's about the challenges of

1008
00:52:39,613 --> 00:52:42,133
Speaker 21: coming out of prison, and it's also about being deaf

1009
00:52:42,213 --> 00:52:44,213
Speaker 21: in a world that is built for people who can hear.

1010
00:52:44,733 --> 00:52:46,853
Speaker 21: The drama itself is quite a slow burn. It's quite

1011
00:52:46,933 --> 00:52:50,453
Speaker 21: dark and intense, only four episodes, but it pulls you

1012
00:52:50,573 --> 00:52:53,493
Speaker 21: in and I'm really curious to see where this one goes.

1013
00:52:53,653 --> 00:52:56,293
Speaker 4: Nice okay, Cole. That's Reunion. It's on TV and Z

1014
00:52:56,493 --> 00:52:59,613
Speaker 4: Plus on three. Now The Family next Door.

1015
00:53:00,653 --> 00:53:04,293
Speaker 21: Yeah, this is a new Australian mystery drama. It's based

1016
00:53:04,293 --> 00:53:07,693
Speaker 21: on a book by Sally Hipworth and it's a little

1017
00:53:07,733 --> 00:53:10,293
Speaker 21: bit like an Australian version of Big Little Lies, but

1018
00:53:10,373 --> 00:53:12,573
Speaker 21: without all the wealth and glamour. This is a little

1019
00:53:12,573 --> 00:53:16,013
Speaker 21: bit more suburban. It's a battle woman named Isabelle who

1020
00:53:16,133 --> 00:53:19,573
Speaker 21: moves to a small coastal town of Victoria. She rents

1021
00:53:19,573 --> 00:53:22,773
Speaker 21: a house on a street where everyone else knows everybody.

1022
00:53:23,413 --> 00:53:25,773
Speaker 21: Claims to be a writer, but she's clearly there for

1023
00:53:25,853 --> 00:53:30,093
Speaker 21: something else. She's secretly collecting information about each of the residents,

1024
00:53:30,213 --> 00:53:33,573
Speaker 21: all of her new neighbors, who in turn becomes suspicious

1025
00:53:33,613 --> 00:53:35,493
Speaker 21: of her and try and find out what she's really

1026
00:53:35,533 --> 00:53:39,293
Speaker 21: doing there. And it's that time old TV drama tradition

1027
00:53:39,493 --> 00:53:42,053
Speaker 21: that that idea that life is the perfect, life is

1028
00:53:42,093 --> 00:53:45,293
Speaker 21: never really perfect. There's always a bit of scandal hiding

1029
00:53:45,373 --> 00:53:48,053
Speaker 21: underneath the surface, and nothing is ever what it seems.

1030
00:53:49,133 --> 00:53:52,733
Speaker 21: It's just a solid Australian family drama. It's about marriage

1031
00:53:52,733 --> 00:53:56,493
Speaker 21: and friendship and parenting and family and it unsolds in

1032
00:53:56,533 --> 00:53:59,533
Speaker 21: a quiet sort of intriguing way. Again, it's not in

1033
00:53:59,533 --> 00:54:02,133
Speaker 21: any kind of hurry, but it's quite watchable and has

1034
00:54:02,133 --> 00:54:06,333
Speaker 21: this great Australian ensemble cast, lots of familiar faces.

1035
00:54:06,533 --> 00:54:09,053
Speaker 4: That's the Family next Door that's on three now and

1036
00:54:09,173 --> 00:54:11,293
Speaker 4: George Clark's Home in the Wild.

1037
00:54:12,213 --> 00:54:14,693
Speaker 21: Yeah, I'm a big fan of George Clark shows. He's

1038
00:54:14,733 --> 00:54:17,813
Speaker 21: the British architect who has a lot of TV shows

1039
00:54:17,853 --> 00:54:21,013
Speaker 21: on here about building homes and quirky homes and Amazing

1040
00:54:21,053 --> 00:54:23,853
Speaker 21: Sheds and all sorts and Homes in the Wild is

1041
00:54:23,853 --> 00:54:26,413
Speaker 21: his new show. This was filmed in New Zealand and

1042
00:54:26,493 --> 00:54:30,973
Speaker 21: Australia over the summer, and this is George Clark visiting smaller,

1043
00:54:31,453 --> 00:54:34,933
Speaker 21: more isolated islands like Cowwell and the Raquino Island and

1044
00:54:35,333 --> 00:54:39,053
Speaker 21: finding houses that are almost hidden in nature, that are

1045
00:54:39,133 --> 00:54:42,373
Speaker 21: built to become part of these remote environments. And what

1046
00:54:42,453 --> 00:54:44,533
Speaker 21: I loved about this show is that it's not about

1047
00:54:44,853 --> 00:54:48,133
Speaker 21: the most expensive house or the fanciest looking house. It's

1048
00:54:48,173 --> 00:54:52,013
Speaker 21: about how people have connected their homes with their environment

1049
00:54:52,453 --> 00:54:57,413
Speaker 21: and used ingenuity and resourcefulness and sustainability. The first episode

1050
00:54:57,453 --> 00:54:59,933
Speaker 21: was on Great Barrier Island and he visited three really

1051
00:54:59,933 --> 00:55:02,973
Speaker 21: different homes with amazing stories and history. One of them

1052
00:55:03,013 --> 00:55:05,853
Speaker 21: had to build a flying fox in the seventies across

1053
00:55:05,893 --> 00:55:08,773
Speaker 21: the bay to get the building materials into the site.

1054
00:55:08,973 --> 00:55:11,253
Speaker 21: There's some great stories in this. If you like a

1055
00:55:11,253 --> 00:55:14,413
Speaker 21: good design show that isn't necessarily about what money can buy,

1056
00:55:14,733 --> 00:55:17,373
Speaker 21: this is definitely worth checking out. It started last week

1057
00:55:17,413 --> 00:55:19,733
Speaker 21: on sky Open, but you can also watch it for

1058
00:55:19,773 --> 00:55:21,253
Speaker 21: free on demand on Skygo.

1059
00:55:21,613 --> 00:55:23,773
Speaker 4: Fantastic. Okay, yeah that's a bit of me. I love

1060
00:55:23,813 --> 00:55:26,373
Speaker 4: George Klik and yeah, that's very much a bit of me.

1061
00:55:26,453 --> 00:55:28,653
Speaker 4: So that's George Clark's Home in the Wild. That's on

1062
00:55:28,773 --> 00:55:31,333
Speaker 4: Sky Open and like Taris said, you can also stream

1063
00:55:31,373 --> 00:55:34,013
Speaker 4: it as well. The Family next Door is on three

1064
00:55:34,093 --> 00:55:38,053
Speaker 4: now and Reunion is on TV and Z Plus. And

1065
00:55:38,133 --> 00:55:41,213
Speaker 4: speaking of TV, you know ESPN as in the global

1066
00:55:41,253 --> 00:55:45,293
Speaker 4: behemoth when it comes to sports TV and sports coverage.

1067
00:55:45,533 --> 00:55:48,613
Speaker 4: They have announced that they think TV's days are numbered

1068
00:55:48,933 --> 00:55:52,253
Speaker 4: as an ESPN's TV days and number not because people

1069
00:55:52,413 --> 00:55:55,333
Speaker 4: aren't watching, but because people are changing the ways in

1070
00:55:55,373 --> 00:55:59,693
Speaker 4: which they watch. So our texpert is really intrigued about

1071
00:55:59,733 --> 00:56:02,573
Speaker 4: what this is going to mean for the future of sports,

1072
00:56:03,293 --> 00:56:05,693
Speaker 4: not just in the US, but the future of sports

1073
00:56:05,693 --> 00:56:07,613
Speaker 4: coverage every Are we going to move to a model

1074
00:56:07,613 --> 00:56:10,053
Speaker 4: where you just pay for individual sports and you stream

1075
00:56:10,093 --> 00:56:12,053
Speaker 4: them at home. That could be a possibility. So he's

1076
00:56:12,053 --> 00:56:13,293
Speaker 4: going to give us his thoughts on that in a

1077
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Speaker 4: bit more detail when he joins us before eleven o'clock

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Speaker 4: twenty seven past ten on News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 1: Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday morning with Jack Team

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Speaker 1: on News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 4: Just coming up to ten thirty on News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 4: So you know the Kremlin has just announced that Donald

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00:56:33,413 --> 00:56:35,373
Speaker 4: Trump and Vladimir Putin are going to be giving a

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Speaker 4: press conference very soon. So they've been meeting alongside two

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Speaker 4: of their senior officials, I think Steve Wickclough and Marco

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Speaker 4: Ruble a Rubio on the US side and Sergei Levrev

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Speaker 4: and someone else on the Russian side. Anyway, they're going

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Speaker 4: to be never meeting for the last three hours or

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Speaker 4: so in Alaska, and we are expecting a press conference

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Speaker 4: with Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin to begin presently, So

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Speaker 4: as soon as it does, we will bring you all

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Speaker 4: of the details of that tomorrow. My son is going

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Speaker 4: to be six months old, six months in which he

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00:57:07,733 --> 00:57:11,653
Speaker 4: has met dozens of people. He has learned to breastfeed,

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Speaker 4: to scream, to jolly jumper, he's traveled to several countries,

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Speaker 4: and he's more than tripled his body weight. There's been

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00:57:21,453 --> 00:57:24,813
Speaker 4: a big six months for him and for his very

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00:57:24,853 --> 00:57:28,533
Speaker 4: first solid food experience. Given this is about the time

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Speaker 4: you're supposed to do it, my wife held up a

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Speaker 4: piece of pear to his lips. It proved to be

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Speaker 4: a mistake, honestly, because even though he was still too

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00:57:36,493 --> 00:57:39,933
Speaker 4: young to chew the fruit, the moment that she drew

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00:57:40,053 --> 00:57:42,773
Speaker 4: the sweet fruit away from his mouth, he just started

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00:57:42,813 --> 00:57:46,053
Speaker 4: screaming until she lifted it up again. We've kind of

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00:57:46,053 --> 00:57:48,533
Speaker 4: made a rod for her own back. We'd been planning

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Speaker 4: to gently introduce some plainer solids for him this week,

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00:57:51,573 --> 00:57:53,933
Speaker 4: and Marva picked up a chicken carcass at the butcher

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Speaker 4: and brewed up a hearty broth. But she was beaten

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00:57:57,613 --> 00:58:00,413
Speaker 4: to the punch by a young girl at our corner

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00:58:00,493 --> 00:58:04,213
Speaker 4: dairy who was eating a large ice cream after school yesterday.

1111
00:58:04,253 --> 00:58:07,893
Speaker 4: And as Marv shimmy past, the girl all globbed off

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Speaker 4: a bit of semi melted magnum and plunged her finger

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Speaker 4: into our son's mouth. Needless to say, broccoli is going

1114
00:58:16,373 --> 00:58:20,293
Speaker 4: to be a challenge. I know that, I know that

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Speaker 4: some people find it totally insufferable when you go on

1116
00:58:22,373 --> 00:58:23,813
Speaker 4: about your kids, so I'm not going to do that.

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00:58:23,893 --> 00:58:26,533
Speaker 4: But given he's my first born, you know it's one

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00:58:26,533 --> 00:58:31,173
Speaker 4: of those kind of experiences, right and truthfully, the magic

1119
00:58:31,253 --> 00:58:34,213
Speaker 4: is real. The magic is totally real. All of the

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Speaker 4: cliches ring true for me right now, for starters, I

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00:58:39,293 --> 00:58:43,653
Speaker 4: just love him so much. I love him so so much.

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Speaker 4: The thought of something bad happening him to him is

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Speaker 4: just unbearable. I can't think about it. It's unconsiderable. The

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00:58:49,653 --> 00:58:53,013
Speaker 4: moment that, like an intrusive thought enters my mind, I

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Speaker 4: just have to shut it down. I just I cannot

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Speaker 4: go there. I still feel that a kind of physical

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00:59:00,053 --> 00:59:04,173
Speaker 4: reaction when he smiles or when he laughs, and I

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Speaker 4: don't know whatever that clever little love chemic, but I

1129
00:59:06,933 --> 00:59:09,733
Speaker 4: feel it like pump through my chest and sweep down

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Speaker 4: my limbs. He giggles when I sing, and he giggles

1131
00:59:13,173 --> 00:59:16,453
Speaker 4: when I make raspberries on his belly. But nothing makes

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Speaker 4: him laugh harder than when his big brother comes in

1133
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Speaker 4: and starts dancing in front of him. Oh my god,

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Speaker 4: it's just so amazing to watch. Honestly, you think that

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00:59:24,573 --> 00:59:27,293
Speaker 4: Jimmy Carr was doing a stand up set in the

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Speaker 4: lounge room for the reaction that it conjures. It's just

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00:59:30,053 --> 00:59:34,693
Speaker 4: it's amazing. It's incredible to watch him learning to do

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00:59:34,813 --> 00:59:37,413
Speaker 4: things for the first time. So we had been bathing

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00:59:37,493 --> 00:59:39,853
Speaker 4: him in the lounge without incident in one of those

1140
00:59:39,893 --> 00:59:43,933
Speaker 4: handy you know, like single one person one baby barths

1141
00:59:44,533 --> 00:59:47,533
Speaker 4: when last weekend, in real time, right in front of us,

1142
00:59:47,573 --> 00:59:50,373
Speaker 4: he learned how to splash. He learned how his actions

1143
00:59:50,573 --> 00:59:52,933
Speaker 4: would lead to water being everywhere right. You could kind

1144
00:59:52,933 --> 00:59:54,853
Speaker 4: of see him work it out. He put his hands underwater,

1145
00:59:55,333 --> 00:59:58,733
Speaker 4: he spread his fingers, and then he started thrashing, delighted,

1146
00:59:59,013 --> 01:00:01,853
Speaker 4: and that was it. No more baths in the lounge.

1147
01:00:02,853 --> 01:00:05,933
Speaker 4: He's been teething this week, and I can see that

1148
01:00:05,973 --> 01:00:08,373
Speaker 4: this is going to to be an ongoing challenge. He

1149
01:00:08,493 --> 01:00:12,693
Speaker 4: just grizzles, and he whitters until someone makes like the

1150
01:00:12,693 --> 01:00:14,733
Speaker 4: wee girl and the dairy and shoves a finger in

1151
01:00:14,773 --> 01:00:19,133
Speaker 4: his mouth to chew on. We're exhausted, of course, just

1152
01:00:19,173 --> 01:00:21,813
Speaker 4: totally naked. I can't wait for him to sleep through

1153
01:00:21,853 --> 01:00:24,733
Speaker 4: the night. At the moment, he wakes up two three

1154
01:00:24,773 --> 01:00:27,573
Speaker 4: times most nights. He's definitely up for the day by

1155
01:00:27,613 --> 01:00:31,173
Speaker 4: four thirty or five every day. And yet, true to

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Speaker 4: the last parenting cliche, one night this week, as I

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01:00:35,613 --> 01:00:38,253
Speaker 4: zipped up his sleepsack and I laid him down to sleep,

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Speaker 4: I noticed myself lamenting, Oh, they grow up so fast?

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Speaker 10: Why why?

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Speaker 4: Why can't he stay like this forever?

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Speaker 7: Jack Tatum Tama.

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Speaker 4: Twenty six minutes to eleven on Newstalks. He'd be that

1163
01:00:54,213 --> 01:00:56,253
Speaker 4: press conference is about to kick off, so we're going

1164
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Speaker 4: to bring you Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin's comments just

1165
01:00:58,733 --> 01:01:01,813
Speaker 4: as soon as it does. Before eleven, we're in the garden,

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Speaker 4: and next up, our texpert is in with the reason.

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Speaker 4: ESPN says it's TV days a number, putting.

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Speaker 1: The tough questions to the newspeakers The Mic Asking Breakfast.

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Speaker 22: The constraints around information sharing is hindering government agencies in

1170
01:01:15,893 --> 01:01:17,293
Speaker 22: responding to organized crime.

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Speaker 3: Where have we heard that before?

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Speaker 22: Steve Simon is the chair of the Ministrial Advisory Group.

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Speaker 20: I've been a prosecutor for twenty years, and I think

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01:01:23,373 --> 01:01:25,893
Speaker 20: it's been the bane of our existence in entire time.

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Speaker 20: If anything, I think it's probably got worse as commin

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01:01:28,733 --> 01:01:32,053
Speaker 20: agencies have become more siloed and have become more risk adverseed.

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Speaker 3: I thinkuld start with.

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Speaker 9: Culture, Mike.

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Speaker 20: I think your point of it's been this consistent problem

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Speaker 20: over the years. What that's driving is this culture of

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01:01:39,333 --> 01:01:41,613
Speaker 20: if I don't share, I won't get in trouble. If

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01:01:41,653 --> 01:01:43,693
Speaker 20: I do share, I might get in trouble. So if

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Speaker 20: you can see which option people are usually choosing.

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Speaker 22: Back Monday from six am, The Mic Asking Breakfast with

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Speaker 22: Mayley's Real Estate News Talk ZB twenty.

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Speaker 4: Three to eleven on news talk ZEDB US sports giant

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Speaker 4: ESPN says that it's TV dates and number. Don't worry,

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Speaker 4: it's not getting out of the business of sports broadcasting,

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01:02:02,693 --> 01:02:04,253
Speaker 4: but it might be getting out of the business of

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Speaker 4: TV our Textbert paulst then, how is here with the details?

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Speaker 4: What's happening?

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Speaker 6: Paul?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? It's funny, isn't it?

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Speaker 23: Because when I first kind of thought about this, it's like, well,

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Speaker 23: haven't we already been going direct to the consumer? Haven't

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Speaker 23: all of these companies been trying to go direct?

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Speaker 5: And they have, but they haven't.

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Speaker 23: And it's a really key point, Jack, because they never

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Speaker 23: give you the actual thing you get that they had

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Speaker 23: on TV, right, And that's what ESPN is actually going

1201
01:02:29,333 --> 01:02:31,133
Speaker 23: to give you right whenever they try to do one

1202
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Speaker 23: of these digital things over here in the States. They're

1203
01:02:33,733 --> 01:02:36,973
Speaker 23: trying to protect that relationship we have with the middleman.

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Speaker 5: They don't want to give up the thing.

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Speaker 23: That gives them literally billions of dollars, right because they

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01:02:42,533 --> 01:02:44,893
Speaker 23: buy the rights from the sports companies, they on sell

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01:02:44,933 --> 01:02:47,173
Speaker 23: that to the PATV operators and that is a.

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Speaker 5: Lucrative, lucrative business.

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Speaker 23: But ESPN is finally bit the bullet and they have

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01:02:52,413 --> 01:02:55,453
Speaker 23: said that ESPN will go direct to the consumer, so

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Speaker 23: they are cutting out that PTV provider who has been

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Speaker 23: a friend of theirs, maybe friendly foe for a very

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01:03:02,853 --> 01:03:03,693
Speaker 23: very long time.

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Speaker 5: And if you're a.

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Speaker 23: Fan of sport sports, you will now just be able

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01:03:08,533 --> 01:03:11,013
Speaker 23: to scrap the entire TV bundle. You don't have to

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01:03:11,013 --> 01:03:13,813
Speaker 23: worry about getting channels you don't want. You're just going

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01:03:13,893 --> 01:03:17,293
Speaker 23: to get ESPN and all your sports. And in the US,

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01:03:17,333 --> 01:03:19,293
Speaker 23: it's like thirty bucks a month is where it's launching

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01:03:19,413 --> 01:03:22,813
Speaker 23: or something like that. And it's really interesting, right, yeah,

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01:03:22,853 --> 01:03:26,773
Speaker 23: because so many people have said, yeah, cable don't want it,

1222
01:03:26,853 --> 01:03:31,053
Speaker 23: too hard, too expensive, You've got things I don't want, although.

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Speaker 5: I've never had cable. Their kids and they say, well,

1224
01:03:32,533 --> 01:03:33,973
Speaker 5: everything I get is on my phone.

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Speaker 23: This will be ESPN's way of actually being able to

1226
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Speaker 23: now say to those fans who've ditched cable or never

1227
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Speaker 23: had cable, come over here, give me your credit card

1228
01:03:45,053 --> 01:03:46,613
Speaker 23: and you can actually start watching.

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Speaker 5: Some of this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it is pretty remarkable, isn't it. I mean, in

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Speaker 4: New Zealand, we're kind of, you know, we're halfway there

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Speaker 4: in that you can get Sky Sports now, so you

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01:03:56,013 --> 01:03:58,613
Speaker 4: can just pay for Sky Sport basically and stream it

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01:03:58,773 --> 01:04:01,933
Speaker 4: rather than paying for all of the Sky channels. You know,

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Speaker 4: they've kind of got a breakoff product there where you know,

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Speaker 4: where they can And there's you know some scuttle but

1237
01:04:08,733 --> 01:04:12,733
Speaker 4: publicly reported scuttle but that for example, TV and Z

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01:04:12,893 --> 01:04:15,733
Speaker 4: might be looking at having sports rights and putting it

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Speaker 4: behind the paywall in the future. I don't know anything

1240
01:04:17,973 --> 01:04:20,733
Speaker 4: about that from being inside TV and Z, but you know,

1241
01:04:20,773 --> 01:04:22,893
Speaker 4: that's at least what's been publicly reported. So I guess

1242
01:04:22,893 --> 01:04:25,013
Speaker 4: this is kind of a trend that's happening in lots

1243
01:04:25,013 --> 01:04:27,613
Speaker 4: of places. But I suppose we could, like, if we

1244
01:04:27,693 --> 01:04:32,013
Speaker 4: take this trend to its nth degree, it's not unreasonable

1245
01:04:32,013 --> 01:04:35,453
Speaker 4: to think that before too long you will just be

1246
01:04:35,573 --> 01:04:38,573
Speaker 4: paying for individual sports, right, So you're just going to

1247
01:04:38,653 --> 01:04:41,933
Speaker 4: go like, for example, I am happy to pay forty

1248
01:04:41,973 --> 01:04:44,413
Speaker 4: dollars a year for the All Blacks, but I'm not

1249
01:04:44,453 --> 01:04:47,413
Speaker 4: going to pay another forty dollars for cricket rights, or

1250
01:04:47,453 --> 01:04:49,893
Speaker 4: I'm not going to pay another thirty dollars for other sports.

1251
01:04:49,933 --> 01:04:53,173
Speaker 4: Like you could see how it kind of becomes bulkanized,

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01:04:53,253 --> 01:04:53,453
Speaker 4: you know.

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Speaker 23: So here's here's where it gets even crazy there.

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01:04:56,813 --> 01:04:58,493
Speaker 5: So you would think that.

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Speaker 23: But in the States, the NFL now wants to get

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01:05:01,453 --> 01:05:02,533
Speaker 23: out of the media business.

1257
01:05:02,813 --> 01:05:04,173
Speaker 5: They actually used to have a thing called the.

1258
01:05:04,253 --> 01:05:07,493
Speaker 23: NFL Network, And part of this pl of ESPN going

1259
01:05:07,533 --> 01:05:10,573
Speaker 23: direct to the consumer is that NFL Network will give

1260
01:05:10,893 --> 01:05:14,573
Speaker 23: ESPN a whole bunch of channels and additional content, even

1261
01:05:14,613 --> 01:05:17,733
Speaker 23: some additional games, and in return they're trying to get

1262
01:05:17,813 --> 01:05:20,733
Speaker 23: I think it's about ten percent of ESPN, which has

1263
01:05:20,773 --> 01:05:23,493
Speaker 23: to go through the regulators and all that stuff.

1264
01:05:23,693 --> 01:05:25,013
Speaker 5: But what's interesting is that's a.

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Speaker 23: Sports league who has previously really tried to double down

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Speaker 23: and not just be a sports league but also be

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Speaker 23: a media.

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01:05:30,733 --> 01:05:33,253
Speaker 5: Company, and now they're moving away from it.

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Speaker 23: So I actually think it's almost interesting to see if

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01:05:35,853 --> 01:05:39,013
Speaker 23: someone like the All Blacks would almost do the reverse.

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Speaker 5: Right, Hey, it's too hard. We don't want to be

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01:05:41,053 --> 01:05:43,813
Speaker 5: a media company. We don't want to worry about subscriptions.

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Speaker 23: We are good at finding amazing rugby players, bringing them

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01:05:47,493 --> 01:05:50,173
Speaker 23: through from high school right the way through to pro

1275
01:05:50,933 --> 01:05:53,533
Speaker 23: and we're really good at creating an inn stadium experience.

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01:05:54,133 --> 01:05:58,573
Speaker 23: That's your business. So it is interesting because that was

1277
01:05:58,653 --> 01:06:01,213
Speaker 23: absolutely the trend. And then what you're starting to see

1278
01:06:01,253 --> 01:06:03,813
Speaker 23: now is that as each of these companies decide they

1279
01:06:03,853 --> 01:06:06,333
Speaker 23: want to go direct to consumer. Especially here in the States,

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01:06:06,413 --> 01:06:09,173
Speaker 23: they're now starting to bundle, which is kind of like

1281
01:06:09,533 --> 01:06:13,973
Speaker 23: a digital effectively cable channel right where you can buy

1282
01:06:14,373 --> 01:06:17,133
Speaker 23: your Disney Plus maybe mixed with your Paramount Plus, mixed

1283
01:06:17,133 --> 01:06:19,173
Speaker 23: with your Peacock, and then you pay a set fee,

1284
01:06:19,213 --> 01:06:21,013
Speaker 23: and then you can go over here and do an

1285
01:06:21,053 --> 01:06:23,733
Speaker 23: Amazon Prime and there's something else in a Discovery Plus.

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01:06:23,733 --> 01:06:26,573
Speaker 5: It's like it's almost become more confusing for people.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, it was some simplicity that you get Sky, you

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Speaker 23: get all the channels, and you've got all the.

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Speaker 4: And that's that. Yeah, that was nice.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Now it's like, who am I paying? How much?

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Speaker 5: Is there a bit of deal?

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Speaker 24: Huh?

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be very interesting. All right, thanks so much, Paul,

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Speaker 4: appreciate your time. Our text at Paul Steinhouse. So you know,

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Speaker 4: we're still waiting for this press conference with President Trump

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Speaker 4: and Vladimir Putin to begin in Alaska. They've set up

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Speaker 4: a sort of staging area in front of all the

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Speaker 4: media and there's a big banner down the back. There's

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Speaker 4: the US flag, there's a Russian flag, and then there's

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Speaker 4: a couple of different podiums and then there's a big

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Speaker 4: banner down the back that says pursuing peace. So we

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Speaker 4: will see how they've gone in their one on one

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Speaker 4: meetings this morning, very shortly eighteen to eleven on News

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Speaker 4: to ZB.

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Speaker 1: No better way to kick off your weekend than with

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Speaker 1: Jack Saturday Morning with Jack Team News Talk.

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Speaker 22: You could be a chest, you could be a thousand

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Speaker 22: and sixties.

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Speaker 10: Would you could be a.

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Speaker 5: God.

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Speaker 4: Flight of the Conquers are so good, aren't they. You

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Speaker 4: might know him as one half of the musical comedy duo,

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Speaker 4: but did you know that Bred mackenzie has basically won everything.

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Speaker 4: He's won an Oscar, he's won a Grammy, and he's

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Speaker 4: won an Emmy. Yeah, so he hasn't won hasn't he

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Speaker 4: won a Tony, But he's one of the others. That's

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Speaker 4: pretty impressive.

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Speaker 10: Uh.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, he's kind of filling the gap between music, comedy, theater,

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Speaker 4: and film, and he's known for being quite experimental with

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Speaker 4: the way he merges songwriting in the story telling, the

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Speaker 4: way he kind of bridges the gap between upbeat and chaotic.

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Speaker 4: His music's been sung by the likes of Celine Dion,

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Speaker 4: Lizzo Homer, and Lisa Simpson, Miss Piggy just to name

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Speaker 4: a few, so divers bunch. He even had songs featured

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Speaker 4: in this year's box office smash hit Minecraft, which of

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01:08:24,373 --> 01:08:27,013
Speaker 4: course he also starred. And anyway, he's back. He's got

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Speaker 4: a brand new album of his own, and our music

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Speaker 4: review at Style Cliffe's had to listen says she's going

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Speaker 4: to tell us about that before midday. We'll make sure

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Speaker 4: we play some of that very soon as well. Right now, though,

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Speaker 4: it is quartered to eleven and time to catch up

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Speaker 4: with our personal finance expert. Ed McKnight from Opie's Partners

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Speaker 4: is with us this morning talking sport, which I know

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Speaker 4: sounds confusing.

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Speaker 15: Kelder, Ed, great to be here, Jack.

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Speaker 4: Great to be speaking with you. They call it the

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Speaker 4: Roger Federer effect. When I think of Roger Federer, I

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Speaker 4: think of maybe the most fluid and beautiful tennis player

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Speaker 4: of all time, But you think of something very different. Indeed,

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Speaker 4: well's quite funny.

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Speaker 5: Jack.

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Speaker 15: I was on my treadmill walkie away watching some YouTube

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01:09:04,973 --> 01:09:08,813
Speaker 15: videos that I saw this really interesting speech that Roger

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Speaker 15: Fetterer gave at Dartmouth College. He was up there in

1346
01:09:12,053 --> 01:09:15,733
Speaker 15: the full dress, said he shared a stat that really

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01:09:15,773 --> 01:09:18,573
Speaker 15: blew my mind. Now we all know Rogert Feedter is

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Speaker 15: one of the greatest tennis.

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Speaker 3: Players of all time.

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Speaker 15: He won over eighty percent of the singles matches he played.

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Speaker 17: But then he asked this question, Well, if I won.

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Speaker 15: Eighty percent of the matches, how many points do you

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Speaker 15: think I won in those over a thousand singles games.

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Speaker 15: Now most of us would say, well, surely it's got

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01:09:37,893 --> 01:09:40,933
Speaker 15: to be eighty percent, But it actually wasn't It was

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Speaker 15: fifty four percent of points. And I promise you that

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Speaker 15: this has a moneyed effect.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's very very interesting, isn't it? So fifty four

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Speaker 4: He only won fifty four percent of the points. When

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Speaker 4: I think about the structure of tennis, and I think

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Speaker 4: about the kind of the statistical side of tennis, I

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Speaker 4: suppose that tennis, while it has a set number of sets,

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Speaker 4: there's no the guarantee as to how many points will

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Speaker 4: be played. Right. You can win a game by being

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01:10:11,733 --> 01:10:14,333
Speaker 4: up forty love, or you can win a game by

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Speaker 4: being at tiebreak. But I suppose at the end of

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Speaker 4: the day that the important thing is that you win

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Speaker 4: a majority of points, and if you win a majority

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Speaker 4: of points, you end up probably winning games. But that's

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Speaker 4: a huge discrepancy.

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Speaker 15: Well, here's how the stats work. If you win fifty

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Speaker 15: four percent of the points, then you win around sixty

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01:10:29,973 --> 01:10:32,493
Speaker 15: percent of the games, right, And if you win sixty

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Speaker 15: percent of your games, you win around seventy three percent

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Speaker 15: of your sets. And if you win seventy three percent

1376
01:10:38,213 --> 01:10:41,613
Speaker 15: of your sets, that compounds into winning about eighty three

1377
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Speaker 15: percent of your matches. And look, if you win eighty

1378
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Speaker 15: three percent of your matches, you become Roger Federer and

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Speaker 15: you're a world class champion.

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Speaker 4: I was going to say, and you took that word

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Speaker 4: off my tongue, compounding, right, Well.

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Speaker 15: When I heard that statueck, that's what I was like.

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Speaker 15: That is a depth, Yeah, how investing works. Because sometimes

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01:10:58,573 --> 01:11:01,973
Speaker 15: people say to me, Ed, you talk about how shares

1385
01:11:02,013 --> 01:11:04,213
Speaker 15: and property tends to go up over time. But then

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01:11:04,253 --> 01:11:07,853
Speaker 15: I look at my shares these app and it looks

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01:11:07,893 --> 01:11:10,493
Speaker 15: like half the time the shares go up or McKee

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01:11:10,533 --> 01:11:12,813
Speaker 15: we sayver goes up, and half the time the balance

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01:11:12,893 --> 01:11:15,693
Speaker 15: is going down. And it made me realize that if

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01:11:15,693 --> 01:11:18,853
Speaker 15: we take the S and P five hundred, it only

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01:11:18,893 --> 01:11:22,173
Speaker 15: goes up fifty three percent of the time on a

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Speaker 15: daily basis, which means you've almost got a coin flip

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01:11:26,973 --> 01:11:29,053
Speaker 15: chance on any given day that the market's going to

1394
01:11:29,053 --> 01:11:31,733
Speaker 15: go up or the market's going to go down. But

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01:11:31,893 --> 01:11:35,413
Speaker 15: that compounds into sixty three percent of the time the

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01:11:35,493 --> 01:11:37,653
Speaker 15: S and P five hundred goes up in a given month,

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Speaker 15: or sixty nine percent of the time in any quarter,

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01:11:40,853 --> 01:11:43,213
Speaker 15: and if you look over a year, it's about seventy

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Speaker 15: four percent.

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Speaker 3: And the longer you.

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Speaker 15: Go out, the higher that number goes up. And so

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01:11:47,893 --> 01:11:50,093
Speaker 15: when I one of the things I often say to

1403
01:11:50,133 --> 01:11:52,973
Speaker 15: invest this is the money is made in holding. But

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01:11:53,013 --> 01:11:56,333
Speaker 15: if you're investing for the first time and you put

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01:11:56,373 --> 01:11:58,333
Speaker 15: some money in and then the next day you run

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01:11:58,373 --> 01:12:01,093
Speaker 15: back to see how much you made, and oh, gosh,

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01:12:01,133 --> 01:12:03,253
Speaker 15: half the time it's going up. Half the time it's

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01:12:03,293 --> 01:12:06,093
Speaker 15: basically going down. You can't distinguish that you've got a

1409
01:12:06,133 --> 01:12:09,293
Speaker 15: slow light edge. But the money is made in the holding.

1410
01:12:09,333 --> 01:12:12,133
Speaker 15: And if you look back over a year and you go, oh,

1411
01:12:12,573 --> 01:12:15,293
Speaker 15: seventy four percent of the time, I'm actually making money,

1412
01:12:15,533 --> 01:12:17,813
Speaker 15: that can make you start feeling better. But it's just

1413
01:12:17,853 --> 01:12:21,253
Speaker 15: to say that you're not going crazy. If you're regularly

1414
01:12:21,333 --> 01:12:24,213
Speaker 15: logging it on a daily basis, checking your shares or

1415
01:12:24,333 --> 01:12:26,533
Speaker 15: on a monthly basis into your a and z at

1416
01:12:26,613 --> 01:12:29,493
Speaker 15: checking the value of your property. You're not going crazy

1417
01:12:29,493 --> 01:12:31,653
Speaker 15: if you seeing it going up in down a lot

1418
01:12:31,933 --> 01:12:34,533
Speaker 15: on that short term, because you've got to zoom out

1419
01:12:34,573 --> 01:12:38,453
Speaker 15: over the year or the five years to see, oh yeah,

1420
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Speaker 15: this investing thing does work. So just keep in mind

1421
01:12:41,133 --> 01:12:43,853
Speaker 15: that Roger Federer effect. It's the same in tennis as

1422
01:12:43,893 --> 01:12:44,733
Speaker 15: with your investments.

1423
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Speaker 4: It's funny how human psychology is such a funny thing, right,

1424
01:12:48,093 --> 01:12:51,173
Speaker 4: But we can all rationalize that with investments things go

1425
01:12:51,333 --> 01:12:54,133
Speaker 4: up over the long term. And yet still if you

1426
01:12:54,253 --> 01:12:56,173
Speaker 4: log into your key we saver and you've lost a

1427
01:12:56,173 --> 01:12:58,333
Speaker 4: couple of percent overnight and you see that as several

1428
01:12:58,373 --> 01:13:00,933
Speaker 4: thousand dollars, even if you're not going to be realizing

1429
01:13:00,973 --> 01:13:04,453
Speaker 4: that that gain or that loss for years or decades

1430
01:13:04,493 --> 01:13:07,093
Speaker 4: to come, you still feel a bit stink. It's just

1431
01:13:07,413 --> 01:13:09,173
Speaker 4: a weird it's a weird kind of dynamic.

1432
01:13:10,213 --> 01:13:13,973
Speaker 15: Especially when you see shares. Is it happens more shares

1433
01:13:13,973 --> 01:13:16,413
Speaker 15: them with property because the price of shares of the

1434
01:13:16,493 --> 01:13:19,013
Speaker 15: S and P five hundred changes every single day, and

1435
01:13:19,053 --> 01:13:21,493
Speaker 15: so you can see that happening, and it's so easy

1436
01:13:21,533 --> 01:13:25,053
Speaker 15: to get despondent and feel like, oh gosh, I won

1437
01:13:25,173 --> 01:13:27,373
Speaker 15: money this day. Or I made money this day. I

1438
01:13:27,413 --> 01:13:30,653
Speaker 15: did it the next day. But just keeping in mind, Oh,

1439
01:13:30,773 --> 01:13:33,093
Speaker 15: it's the same with Roger Federer. You wouldn't look at

1440
01:13:33,173 --> 01:13:35,693
Speaker 15: him playing a single game and think, oh, he's a

1441
01:13:35,733 --> 01:13:39,533
Speaker 15: bit useless. The only winds about Malus's point. No, he's

1442
01:13:39,613 --> 01:13:42,813
Speaker 15: a world class tens player. You can't just look at

1443
01:13:42,813 --> 01:13:45,733
Speaker 15: the single point. It's the match that matters. And it's

1444
01:13:45,733 --> 01:13:47,013
Speaker 15: the same with your investing.

1445
01:13:47,133 --> 01:13:49,413
Speaker 4: Oh that's so good. Love you work here, Thank you

1446
01:13:49,453 --> 01:13:50,533
Speaker 4: so much. Have a good weekend.

1447
01:13:51,053 --> 01:13:54,373
Speaker 1: You two guarding with stell shop one hundred bucks of

1448
01:13:54,453 --> 01:13:56,653
Speaker 1: free accessories on selected chainsaws.

1449
01:13:57,133 --> 01:13:59,733
Speaker 4: Rude clime Pass is in the garden for us this morning,

1450
01:13:59,733 --> 01:14:01,373
Speaker 4: and Rude, I don't want to get you too excited,

1451
01:14:01,413 --> 01:14:05,053
Speaker 4: but as keenly as I always take your advice and

1452
01:14:05,133 --> 01:14:08,893
Speaker 4: listen to your very thoughts and recommendations, I do have

1453
01:14:08,933 --> 01:14:11,973
Speaker 4: one eye on a press conference between the prison in

1454
01:14:12,013 --> 01:14:14,133
Speaker 4: the United States and the President of Russia this morning.

1455
01:14:14,173 --> 01:14:15,893
Speaker 4: So if we have to cut you off, you know why.

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01:14:17,053 --> 01:14:19,293
Speaker 16: Yeah, I realized that. And put In is an amazing

1457
01:14:19,333 --> 01:14:20,333
Speaker 16: gard isn't.

1458
01:14:20,133 --> 01:14:22,973
Speaker 4: He famous famous for his green fingers.

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01:14:25,533 --> 01:14:27,453
Speaker 16: Before we go, I'm going to make it even worse

1460
01:14:27,813 --> 01:14:30,173
Speaker 16: because the stuff that's on the website will be giving

1461
01:14:30,173 --> 01:14:33,293
Speaker 16: you all the all the ideas. Anyway, last night I

1462
01:14:33,333 --> 01:14:36,093
Speaker 16: went to a place where your youngster will go when

1463
01:14:36,093 --> 01:14:38,573
Speaker 16: he is five or six years old. In Christ's the

1464
01:14:38,613 --> 01:14:44,413
Speaker 16: bot illuminating the Vitennic garden. Yes, exactly illuminating the Vitennic.

1465
01:14:44,613 --> 01:14:47,693
Speaker 16: So you see the Vitinna garden at night under light

1466
01:14:47,893 --> 01:14:52,613
Speaker 16: and sound, with ultra violet lights and the most amazing

1467
01:14:52,653 --> 01:14:55,213
Speaker 16: systems going on there. It took Julian two and a

1468
01:14:55,213 --> 01:14:57,293
Speaker 16: half hours to walk through it. Just keep it in

1469
01:14:57,493 --> 01:15:00,013
Speaker 16: it for those people in prices. You can't miss this

1470
01:15:00,813 --> 01:15:01,293
Speaker 16: number one.

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Speaker 4: Okay, fantastic. Okay, So you're keeping your eyes on the

1472
01:15:05,373 --> 01:15:06,853
Speaker 4: garden this morning and look look for a bit of

1473
01:15:06,933 --> 01:15:08,173
Speaker 4: unexpected winter beauty.

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01:15:09,413 --> 01:15:12,293
Speaker 16: Well, Julie's often putting new inhabitance in the garden. Then

1475
01:15:12,333 --> 01:15:14,893
Speaker 16: they sort of escaped me a little bit, and suddenly

1476
01:15:14,893 --> 01:15:17,653
Speaker 16: there they are. So I looked at some of the

1477
01:15:17,773 --> 01:15:19,693
Speaker 16: really nice on the white magnolia at the moment that

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01:15:19,733 --> 01:15:22,893
Speaker 16: is coming out, which I think is wonderful. It's not pollinating.

1479
01:15:23,053 --> 01:15:25,893
Speaker 16: There's a beautiful big flower, but it's one of the

1480
01:15:25,933 --> 01:15:30,093
Speaker 16: oldest plants on the planet that doesn't do pollination. I

1481
01:15:30,093 --> 01:15:33,133
Speaker 16: think the pollen are distributed by window or something like that.

1482
01:15:34,013 --> 01:15:37,573
Speaker 16: So that's number one at Gerphlia. I remember Don Burke

1483
01:15:37,693 --> 01:15:42,013
Speaker 16: during television from Australia. He loves Gravillia. At the moment

1484
01:15:42,533 --> 01:15:45,893
Speaker 16: in flower, go and look for them. There are tall

1485
01:15:46,013 --> 01:15:50,613
Speaker 16: grasses called their scants. They're about almost a meter high. Fabulous,

1486
01:15:50,813 --> 01:15:54,773
Speaker 16: always good to see. Then there was this daffodil.

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01:15:54,813 --> 01:15:55,813
Speaker 6: I said that, Julie, what's that?

1488
01:15:56,413 --> 01:16:00,293
Speaker 16: Just another daffodil, that's what it does. So here we go,

1489
01:16:00,693 --> 01:16:03,493
Speaker 16: all right, but here comes the thing that I really loved,

1490
01:16:03,533 --> 01:16:05,733
Speaker 16: and a's hammer mailis. We've had it for a while.

1491
01:16:06,413 --> 01:16:09,853
Speaker 16: And how my malist comes in, which hazel, and it

1492
01:16:09,973 --> 01:16:14,493
Speaker 16: comes in different colors, in different colors and different shapes

1493
01:16:14,533 --> 01:16:17,973
Speaker 16: and all the sizes. But then when I started looking

1494
01:16:18,013 --> 01:16:21,613
Speaker 16: at it, I realized there was one called It was

1495
01:16:21,693 --> 01:16:25,773
Speaker 16: actually very very red in color. And I'm actually I'm

1496
01:16:25,813 --> 01:16:29,373
Speaker 16: going to find where I can get This is unbelievable.

1497
01:16:29,973 --> 01:16:31,773
Speaker 16: What I'm trying to say is what we think of

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01:16:31,893 --> 01:16:35,813
Speaker 16: winter as a dull dime a. But boy, if you

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Speaker 16: got the right stuff in the garden, it certainly pays

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01:16:39,853 --> 01:16:43,053
Speaker 16: for everything you get there. Basically all the colors.

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01:16:43,293 --> 01:16:47,453
Speaker 4: Everything works nice, fantastic. So I've got a bit of

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01:16:47,493 --> 01:16:49,933
Speaker 4: news for you as well, in that I took your

1503
01:16:49,933 --> 01:16:52,693
Speaker 4: advice a couple of weeks ago and I moved out

1504
01:16:52,733 --> 01:16:54,733
Speaker 4: pomegranate tree. You know how you were saying it was

1505
01:16:54,773 --> 01:16:56,533
Speaker 4: the time, and I moved it. And there's a lot

1506
01:16:56,573 --> 01:16:58,253
Speaker 4: of rain. I've been a little bit nervous about how

1507
01:16:58,293 --> 01:17:01,133
Speaker 4: everything was going. The good news is, and I've been

1508
01:17:01,213 --> 01:17:04,013
Speaker 4: checking it every day, is that I can just see

1509
01:17:04,133 --> 01:17:07,173
Speaker 4: the leaves about to start coming out of the little

1510
01:17:07,293 --> 01:17:10,053
Speaker 4: whatever it is. Yeah, so it looks like that. It

1511
01:17:10,133 --> 01:17:12,693
Speaker 4: looks like it has survived the move. I will report

1512
01:17:12,773 --> 01:17:15,493
Speaker 4: back again next week. But every day I see a

1513
01:17:15,533 --> 01:17:17,733
Speaker 4: tiny bit more growth on the edge of the stems

1514
01:17:17,733 --> 01:17:19,773
Speaker 4: and I think, oh my goodness, Rube was right. I

1515
01:17:19,813 --> 01:17:22,253
Speaker 4: think I might have got away with this. So that's good.

1516
01:17:22,333 --> 01:17:25,333
Speaker 16: About a little bit of fertilage in about two weeks,

1517
01:17:25,373 --> 01:17:25,653
Speaker 16: how's that?

1518
01:17:25,893 --> 01:17:28,373
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, I don't worry. I'll be on that absolutely.

1519
01:17:28,493 --> 01:17:30,493
Speaker 4: Thank you so much, sir. We'll make sure those photos

1520
01:17:30,733 --> 01:17:32,373
Speaker 4: for a bit of winter beauty are up on the

1521
01:17:32,373 --> 01:17:34,293
Speaker 4: news talks Hed websites so you can see them soon,

1522
01:17:34,333 --> 01:17:36,733
Speaker 4: and we will catch route in the garden again very

1523
01:17:36,813 --> 01:17:38,973
Speaker 4: soon next week. The press conference has just kicked off

1524
01:17:39,013 --> 01:17:43,613
Speaker 4: with Putin and Donald Trump. Putin is speaking first. He's

1525
01:17:43,613 --> 01:17:46,333
Speaker 4: speaking Russian. I don't but I understand that. He says

1526
01:17:46,373 --> 01:17:48,693
Speaker 4: that the talks have been constructive. Our news team's going

1527
01:17:48,733 --> 01:17:49,933
Speaker 4: to have all the details for you in a couple

1528
01:17:49,973 --> 01:17:52,293
Speaker 4: of minutes. It's almost eleven o'clock at a Saturday morning.

1529
01:17:52,773 --> 01:17:55,013
Speaker 4: I'm Jack Tame. This is news talks.

1530
01:17:55,013 --> 01:17:55,333
Speaker 10: He'd be.

1531
01:17:59,653 --> 01:18:03,413
Speaker 1: Saturday morning with Jack team keeping the conversation going through

1532
01:18:03,493 --> 01:18:04,853
Speaker 1: the weekend news talks.

1533
01:18:04,973 --> 01:18:05,133
Speaker 7: Ed be.

1534
01:18:28,533 --> 01:18:30,733
Speaker 4: Yoda, good morning. If you're just turning on the radio,

1535
01:18:31,853 --> 01:18:35,533
Speaker 4: My goodness. Things are moving quickly in Alaska. So at

1536
01:18:35,573 --> 01:18:38,853
Speaker 4: about seven am this morning, about seven thirty am, Vladimir

1537
01:18:38,893 --> 01:18:42,493
Speaker 4: Putin and Donald Trump started meeting in person. They both

1538
01:18:42,893 --> 01:18:47,373
Speaker 4: arrived in Anchorage, Alaska, in their private planes. They met

1539
01:18:47,413 --> 01:18:50,253
Speaker 4: each other on a litteral red carpet. They waved to

1540
01:18:50,293 --> 01:18:52,733
Speaker 4: the cameras. There was a flyover with a B two

1541
01:18:52,933 --> 01:18:56,893
Speaker 4: stealth bomb of four F thirty fives reporters were yelling

1542
01:18:57,013 --> 01:18:59,733
Speaker 4: questions to Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump, but they and

1543
01:18:59,973 --> 01:19:04,653
Speaker 4: two of their senior advisors respectively went into a private

1544
01:19:04,733 --> 01:19:08,093
Speaker 4: meeting for about three hours that meeting has concluded. The

1545
01:19:08,213 --> 01:19:10,693
Speaker 4: two leaders have just held a joint press conference. They

1546
01:19:10,773 --> 01:19:13,933
Speaker 4: came and fronted on a stage in front of the

1547
01:19:14,013 --> 01:19:18,613
Speaker 4: assorted press pack, and when they did, Donald Trump signaled

1548
01:19:18,653 --> 01:19:21,973
Speaker 4: for Vladimir Putin to speak first. Here's what the Russian

1549
01:19:22,053 --> 01:19:23,333
Speaker 4: president had to say.

1550
01:19:23,813 --> 01:19:26,533
Speaker 25: And agree with President Trump as he has sat today,

1551
01:19:26,813 --> 01:19:31,453
Speaker 25: that naturally the security of Ukraine should be insured as well.

1552
01:19:31,893 --> 01:19:36,253
Speaker 25: Naturally we're prepared to work on that. I would like

1553
01:19:36,333 --> 01:19:38,853
Speaker 25: to hope that the agreement that we've reached together will

1554
01:19:38,933 --> 01:19:41,533
Speaker 25: help us bring close to that goal and will pay

1555
01:19:41,653 --> 01:19:43,573
Speaker 25: the path towards peace and Ukraine.

1556
01:19:44,093 --> 01:19:46,333
Speaker 4: Well, what is that agreement they've reached. It's not totally

1557
01:19:46,373 --> 01:19:48,573
Speaker 4: clear at this stage. Certainly there is no reporting that

1558
01:19:48,653 --> 01:19:51,853
Speaker 4: a cease file, a ceasefire agreement has been reached, although

1559
01:19:51,933 --> 01:19:54,693
Speaker 4: that is what Donald Trump said he'd be aiming for today.

1560
01:19:54,773 --> 01:19:56,693
Speaker 4: That the talks do continue. Are that the one on

1561
01:19:56,773 --> 01:20:00,133
Speaker 4: one talks or three on three talks have concluded, but

1562
01:20:00,213 --> 01:20:02,413
Speaker 4: there are going to be some other conversations today. There's

1563
01:20:02,413 --> 01:20:05,693
Speaker 4: going to be a lunch now where the entourages for

1564
01:20:05,733 --> 01:20:10,093
Speaker 4: the Americans and the Russians will continue their conversations. But

1565
01:20:10,173 --> 01:20:15,253
Speaker 4: it was very interesting Vladimir Putin made extended comment extensive

1566
01:20:15,293 --> 01:20:18,053
Speaker 4: comments as part of his as part of his presentation

1567
01:20:18,253 --> 01:20:21,053
Speaker 4: to the media before Donald Trump had a word, and

1568
01:20:21,373 --> 01:20:25,933
Speaker 4: clearly he was speaking knowing that his translation would be

1569
01:20:26,053 --> 01:20:29,093
Speaker 4: relayed live to the US President and speaking to try

1570
01:20:29,173 --> 01:20:31,693
Speaker 4: and get in Donald Trump's good books. Just listen to this.

1571
01:20:32,093 --> 01:20:35,213
Speaker 25: Today when President Trump saying that if he was the

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01:20:35,293 --> 01:20:37,733
Speaker 25: president back then there will be no war, and I'm

1573
01:20:38,213 --> 01:20:40,973
Speaker 25: quite sure that it would indeed be, so I can

1574
01:20:41,093 --> 01:20:45,533
Speaker 25: confirm that I think that overall me and President Trump

1575
01:20:46,173 --> 01:20:50,333
Speaker 25: have built a very good, business like and trustworthy contact.

1576
01:20:51,413 --> 01:20:53,973
Speaker 4: Okay, So that was Vladimir Putin. Donald Trump says they

1577
01:20:54,013 --> 01:20:58,213
Speaker 4: have quote made progress in the conversations today, but certainly

1578
01:20:58,333 --> 01:21:01,493
Speaker 4: that there's no enormous breakthrough I think of Vladimir Putin

1579
01:21:01,573 --> 01:21:05,053
Speaker 4: said that in order to actually end the war in Ukraine,

1580
01:21:05,133 --> 01:21:10,053
Speaker 4: the primary cause must be eliminated. But certainly the body

1581
01:21:10,133 --> 01:21:13,133
Speaker 4: language between the two leaders has been pretty chummy, and

1582
01:21:13,333 --> 01:21:15,333
Speaker 4: clearly they're trying to build some sort of a rapport.

1583
01:21:15,373 --> 01:21:16,653
Speaker 4: So we're going to make sure we keep you up

1584
01:21:16,693 --> 01:21:21,213
Speaker 4: to speed as the as the Summit of Sorts in Anchorage,

1585
01:21:21,253 --> 01:21:25,093
Speaker 4: Alaska continues throughout the day on newstalks. He'd be right now.

1586
01:21:25,213 --> 01:21:28,453
Speaker 4: It is ten past eleven, Jack Dab, time to catch

1587
01:21:28,533 --> 01:21:31,213
Speaker 4: up with our clinical psychologists. Doogle Sutherland is here this

1588
01:21:31,373 --> 01:21:35,133
Speaker 4: morning and tackling a very interesting issue, indeed, the long

1589
01:21:35,333 --> 01:21:38,693
Speaker 4: term effects of every day stresses. So these are not

1590
01:21:38,813 --> 01:21:40,893
Speaker 4: the acute, big one off stresses you have in life.

1591
01:21:40,973 --> 01:21:43,573
Speaker 4: This is the accumulation of the stuff that you're dealing

1592
01:21:43,653 --> 01:21:46,733
Speaker 4: with every day Kilder Google Curder Jack.

1593
01:21:46,813 --> 01:21:50,053
Speaker 17: Yes, indeed, it's often those that sort of building up

1594
01:21:50,133 --> 01:21:53,573
Speaker 17: of the small everyday things that has that sort of

1595
01:21:53,653 --> 01:21:57,373
Speaker 17: you know, slow impact on our health rather than necessarily

1596
01:21:57,453 --> 01:22:00,813
Speaker 17: those huge, huge, big things. And actually this was sparked

1597
01:22:00,893 --> 01:22:03,933
Speaker 17: by a survey from trade me that showed that I

1598
01:22:04,013 --> 01:22:06,693
Speaker 17: think it was over eighty percent of people on the

1599
01:22:06,773 --> 01:22:11,693
Speaker 17: process of buying a new house super stressful, which which

1600
01:22:11,773 --> 01:22:14,093
Speaker 17: mirrors a lot of sort of psychology research which says

1601
01:22:14,133 --> 01:22:17,413
Speaker 17: everyday stress is like buying a house. Getting married and

1602
01:22:17,573 --> 01:22:20,053
Speaker 17: public speaking are some of the most stressful events people

1603
01:22:20,133 --> 01:22:23,893
Speaker 17: talk about in the in their in their everyday lives.

1604
01:22:24,053 --> 01:22:26,053
Speaker 17: And if you remember last time we were talking, we

1605
01:22:26,133 --> 01:22:28,453
Speaker 17: talked about how to live to be one hundred and

1606
01:22:28,573 --> 01:22:31,053
Speaker 17: one of those things was managing stress and so maybe

1607
01:22:31,053 --> 01:22:33,373
Speaker 17: if you can manage your everyday stress, you might you

1608
01:22:33,453 --> 01:22:34,653
Speaker 17: might even live a little bit longer.

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01:22:34,853 --> 01:22:38,453
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's interesting because I don't know, like I I

1610
01:22:38,533 --> 01:22:40,693
Speaker 4: feel like I have a stressful job I have, you know,

1611
01:22:40,773 --> 01:22:42,853
Speaker 4: I have a stressful career, and there are lots of

1612
01:22:42,893 --> 01:22:46,373
Speaker 4: stresses that come with the job and the kind of

1613
01:22:46,773 --> 01:22:50,293
Speaker 4: you know, regular slash semi regular stresses that I have.

1614
01:22:50,893 --> 01:22:53,973
Speaker 4: I often get stressed about what kind of what kind

1615
01:22:53,973 --> 01:22:56,173
Speaker 4: of impact they might be having on my health. But

1616
01:22:56,293 --> 01:22:59,453
Speaker 4: really it's like it can be any situation, right that

1617
01:22:59,773 --> 01:23:03,453
Speaker 4: is there's kind of new or or you know, ambiguous,

1618
01:23:03,573 --> 01:23:05,933
Speaker 4: we you're feeling outside of your comfort zone, that can

1619
01:23:05,973 --> 01:23:07,653
Speaker 4: contribut to an every day stress.

1620
01:23:08,213 --> 01:23:08,453
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1621
01:23:08,493 --> 01:23:10,973
Speaker 17: Absolutely, those three things that you've just named there, that

1622
01:23:11,093 --> 01:23:15,693
Speaker 17: sort of newness or novelness, the ambiguity and unpredictability of

1623
01:23:15,773 --> 01:23:19,653
Speaker 17: a situation that those are really the key ingredients for

1624
01:23:19,973 --> 01:23:24,253
Speaker 17: us as humans to experience stress. And that can be

1625
01:23:24,413 --> 01:23:29,013
Speaker 17: you know, anything that crops up, you know, for getting

1626
01:23:29,013 --> 01:23:31,613
Speaker 17: into a relationship and new relationships like well that's new

1627
01:23:31,733 --> 01:23:35,053
Speaker 17: and ambiguous. I don't know how this person's going to react,

1628
01:23:35,413 --> 01:23:38,933
Speaker 17: and I can't really control it or not completely control

1629
01:23:39,013 --> 01:23:41,093
Speaker 17: it anyway. So yeah, any any time where you have

1630
01:23:41,213 --> 01:23:47,173
Speaker 17: those three ingredients ambiguity, newness, and uncontrollability, it does result

1631
01:23:47,453 --> 01:23:50,533
Speaker 17: or it's the recipe for stress for us to feel

1632
01:23:50,533 --> 01:23:51,213
Speaker 17: the stress.

1633
01:23:51,013 --> 01:23:55,933
Speaker 4: And so using the circles of control model can be

1634
01:23:56,013 --> 01:23:57,493
Speaker 4: a good way to try and manage it. Just to

1635
01:23:57,533 --> 01:23:59,853
Speaker 4: explain to us, what is the circles of control model?

1636
01:24:00,573 --> 01:24:02,653
Speaker 17: Yeah, well a lot of people are familiar with it

1637
01:24:02,693 --> 01:24:04,613
Speaker 17: when I talk to people that there. Oh yeah, yeah,

1638
01:24:04,733 --> 01:24:06,653
Speaker 17: I'm kind of familiar with that. So if you're adagine

1639
01:24:06,853 --> 01:24:10,573
Speaker 17: a sort of a three circles, almost like a dartboard

1640
01:24:10,613 --> 01:24:14,573
Speaker 17: that sort of shape. And the outside circle is things

1641
01:24:14,693 --> 01:24:18,413
Speaker 17: of concern. Those are things that you that that that

1642
01:24:18,613 --> 01:24:21,453
Speaker 17: might worry you, but you have no kind of control.

1643
01:24:21,213 --> 01:24:22,013
Speaker 5: Over it at all.

1644
01:24:22,053 --> 01:24:25,453
Speaker 17: Also, that's the outside circles. The next circle in the

1645
01:24:25,533 --> 01:24:29,293
Speaker 17: middle circle is things that you can influence. Uh, and

1646
01:24:29,453 --> 01:24:32,013
Speaker 17: then the middle circle is things that are completely in

1647
01:24:32,133 --> 01:24:37,813
Speaker 17: your control. And arguably you could split any situation up

1648
01:24:37,933 --> 01:24:42,573
Speaker 17: into those using those three circles. And the idea being

1649
01:24:42,733 --> 01:24:46,133
Speaker 17: that if you can focus yourself on the things that

1650
01:24:46,373 --> 01:24:51,013
Speaker 17: you can firstly control and also those things that you

1651
01:24:51,053 --> 01:24:52,453
Speaker 17: can influence, it gives you a bit of a game

1652
01:24:52,533 --> 01:24:56,213
Speaker 17: plan to get active and to do something rather than

1653
01:24:56,293 --> 01:25:00,813
Speaker 17: focusing on the things that are of concern, which was

1654
01:25:00,933 --> 01:25:03,293
Speaker 17: a completely understandable that you're concerned about them. It's sort

1655
01:25:03,333 --> 01:25:05,373
Speaker 17: of a waste of mental energy to to to be

1656
01:25:05,453 --> 01:25:08,093
Speaker 17: focused on them because can't really do anything about them.

1657
01:25:08,173 --> 01:25:10,253
Speaker 4: Yeah right, that makes sense. Okay, So to go back

1658
01:25:10,293 --> 01:25:12,333
Speaker 4: to the survey you did with trade me for people

1659
01:25:12,693 --> 01:25:16,133
Speaker 4: buying houses and finding it stressful, can you apply that

1660
01:25:17,013 --> 01:25:20,853
Speaker 4: model to housing, then to the post of buying a house.

1661
01:25:20,893 --> 01:25:24,053
Speaker 17: Then what you can get on what you can't absolutely,

1662
01:25:24,133 --> 01:25:27,053
Speaker 17: so things have concerned that's the outside circle, that's the

1663
01:25:27,173 --> 01:25:29,773
Speaker 17: house market and other buyers like you've got You've got

1664
01:25:29,893 --> 01:25:32,413
Speaker 17: no control or even influence on who else is looking

1665
01:25:32,453 --> 01:25:33,013
Speaker 17: for a house or.

1666
01:25:33,013 --> 01:25:34,093
Speaker 6: What houses are out here.

1667
01:25:34,733 --> 01:25:36,733
Speaker 17: So so actually, don't worry too much.

1668
01:25:36,573 --> 01:25:37,293
Speaker 5: About that, right.

1669
01:25:37,653 --> 01:25:41,053
Speaker 17: Things you can influence, well, you can influence the seller's

1670
01:25:41,133 --> 01:25:42,973
Speaker 17: decision when you put in a you know, you can

1671
01:25:43,013 --> 01:25:45,013
Speaker 17: put in a good offer, you can write a nice letter,

1672
01:25:45,933 --> 01:25:49,013
Speaker 17: you can influence somewhat the mortgage rate that you get.

1673
01:25:49,093 --> 01:25:51,693
Speaker 17: You can shop around between banks and get a better

1674
01:25:52,413 --> 01:25:54,773
Speaker 17: get a better mortgage rate. And then the things that

1675
01:25:54,973 --> 01:26:01,493
Speaker 17: you can control those are your budget, where you look,

1676
01:26:02,773 --> 01:26:04,853
Speaker 17: you know, your preparation, so those are.

1677
01:26:04,813 --> 01:26:06,773
Speaker 6: All completely under your control.

1678
01:26:06,933 --> 01:26:10,213
Speaker 17: So if you're in that in the active buying a house,

1679
01:26:10,333 --> 01:26:13,333
Speaker 17: think about you know, even I often say to people

1680
01:26:13,413 --> 01:26:16,293
Speaker 17: do what we call is prescribed worry times. So so

1681
01:26:16,493 --> 01:26:19,093
Speaker 17: take twenty or thirty minutes about the thing that to

1682
01:26:19,493 --> 01:26:22,053
Speaker 17: really focus on the thing you worry about and draw

1683
01:26:22,173 --> 01:26:25,333
Speaker 17: out those circles of control and see how you can

1684
01:26:25,373 --> 01:26:27,613
Speaker 17: apply And we just apply them to that to buying

1685
01:26:27,653 --> 01:26:29,653
Speaker 17: a house, but you could do that for any any

1686
01:26:29,773 --> 01:26:32,813
Speaker 17: kind of situation really, and it does give you a

1687
01:26:32,853 --> 01:26:34,373
Speaker 17: bit of an action plan. And once you've got an

1688
01:26:34,373 --> 01:26:37,213
Speaker 17: action plan, it can help reduce your anxiety or stress

1689
01:26:37,293 --> 01:26:39,773
Speaker 17: somewhat because you feel like you've got a bit more

1690
01:26:39,853 --> 01:26:42,373
Speaker 17: control and you're a bit more things are a bit

1691
01:26:42,453 --> 01:26:45,413
Speaker 17: more predictable, so it dials down your stressometer a little bit.

1692
01:26:45,653 --> 01:26:47,173
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know there are things you can do

1693
01:26:47,253 --> 01:26:49,653
Speaker 4: obvious things, so you could use a bit of technology

1694
01:26:49,733 --> 01:26:52,373
Speaker 4: that kind of thing wherever possible so that you're not

1695
01:26:52,453 --> 01:26:54,933
Speaker 4: always checking stuff that you can try and set up

1696
01:26:54,933 --> 01:26:56,013
Speaker 4: alerts in that kind of thing.

1697
01:26:56,613 --> 01:26:58,933
Speaker 17: Yeah, one hundred percent. And just going back to the

1698
01:26:59,133 --> 01:27:01,053
Speaker 17: trade me idea, they you know, they've got a nice

1699
01:27:01,093 --> 01:27:04,933
Speaker 17: little filter on their search engine around houses, so it

1700
01:27:05,053 --> 01:27:07,533
Speaker 17: keeps you sort of focused on the price range and

1701
01:27:07,573 --> 01:27:10,373
Speaker 17: the areas that you want to focus on. Because I

1702
01:27:10,413 --> 01:27:11,933
Speaker 17: don't know about you, but I can remember, you know,

1703
01:27:12,053 --> 01:27:14,253
Speaker 17: last time we bought a house. If you miss out

1704
01:27:14,293 --> 01:27:16,653
Speaker 17: something that's like, oh my god, yeah we've got a

1705
01:27:16,973 --> 01:27:19,573
Speaker 17: quick but by that one, it's like we're going to

1706
01:27:19,733 --> 01:27:21,213
Speaker 17: We're not going to live in haste things. There's nothing

1707
01:27:21,213 --> 01:27:23,693
Speaker 17: wrong with yeah we live in Wellington, but the house

1708
01:27:23,693 --> 01:27:25,533
Speaker 17: will tell there quick, quick, quicknity.

1709
01:27:25,853 --> 01:27:27,293
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah it.

1710
01:27:27,333 --> 01:27:29,493
Speaker 17: Would be, but you do get a bit panicky. So

1711
01:27:29,733 --> 01:27:31,813
Speaker 17: having those sort of any sort of tech that you

1712
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Speaker 17: can use just can help you sort of folks stay

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Speaker 17: focused and not sort of get swept away with that

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01:27:38,613 --> 01:27:40,813
Speaker 17: sort of buyers remorse that we get sometimes. So they

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01:27:40,853 --> 01:27:44,173
Speaker 17: can be really really useful just helping you stay focused

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01:27:44,213 --> 01:27:45,693
Speaker 17: on those things that you can control.

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Speaker 4: Lovely work Doogle as always. Thank you so much. Clinical Psychologists.

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Speaker 4: Google Sutherland from Umbrella well Being with us this morning.

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01:27:51,573 --> 01:27:53,533
Speaker 4: Thank you so much for your feedback. Before eleven o'clock,

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Speaker 4: I was say, my son turned six months tomorrow? Does

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01:27:57,533 --> 01:27:59,653
Speaker 4: he turn six months? Do you turn six months? He's

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01:27:59,653 --> 01:28:02,413
Speaker 4: six months old tomorrow, which means of course, we are

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01:28:02,933 --> 01:28:07,253
Speaker 4: about to tackle solids. He's he's teething at the moment

1724
01:28:07,293 --> 01:28:09,893
Speaker 4: as well, which is very, very tricky indeed. But anyway,

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Speaker 4: I've all as I was saying before eleven o'clock, all

1726
01:28:12,453 --> 01:28:15,653
Speaker 4: the cliches ring true for me. Thank you for your feedback. Jack.

1727
01:28:15,693 --> 01:28:18,093
Speaker 4: I'm in tears remembering my son at that age. He's

1728
01:28:18,133 --> 01:28:21,413
Speaker 4: now twenty three. As you say, time flies, says Sharon. Jack.

1729
01:28:21,493 --> 01:28:23,693
Speaker 4: Lovely to hear about your beautiful son this morning. Jack.

1730
01:28:23,733 --> 01:28:25,773
Speaker 4: I love hearing about your wee boy treasure each day.

1731
01:28:25,813 --> 01:28:29,893
Speaker 4: They will never be repeated, says Anne and Jack. I

1732
01:28:30,053 --> 01:28:33,453
Speaker 4: enjoy your son's stories with envy. The messy one was

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01:28:33,493 --> 01:28:36,133
Speaker 4: way back for me. My fifty five and nearly fifty

1734
01:28:36,213 --> 01:28:38,493
Speaker 4: two year old sons missed a lot, and now they

1735
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Speaker 4: look after me. Funny how life goes full circle, says Georgie.

1736
01:28:41,613 --> 01:28:43,133
Speaker 4: Thank you for that. Ninety two to onely two. If

1737
01:28:43,173 --> 01:28:45,253
Speaker 4: you want to send us a message this morning, Jacket

1738
01:28:45,293 --> 01:28:48,573
Speaker 4: Newstoroks dB dot co dot nz is the email address.

1739
01:28:48,893 --> 01:28:51,773
Speaker 4: Before midday, We've got new music from Brett McKenzie, he

1740
01:28:51,853 --> 01:28:55,573
Speaker 4: of Flight of the Concord's fame, plus your book picks

1741
01:28:55,653 --> 01:28:58,853
Speaker 4: this weekend. Have a couple of crackers, including this one

1742
01:28:58,893 --> 01:29:01,853
Speaker 4: from Stanley Tucci called What I Ate in One Year?

1743
01:29:02,973 --> 01:29:05,573
Speaker 4: It's a very direct title, isn't it. But you know

1744
01:29:05,653 --> 01:29:09,253
Speaker 4: he's been doing the whole series of food TV shows,

1745
01:29:09,533 --> 01:29:11,813
Speaker 4: and so yeah, he's released this new book, What I

1746
01:29:11,973 --> 01:29:13,853
Speaker 4: Ate in One Year? So I'll tell you a little bit,

1747
01:29:14,093 --> 01:29:16,613
Speaker 4: a little bit about that very soon. Eighteen past eleven

1748
01:29:16,693 --> 01:29:18,373
Speaker 4: our Travel Correspondents and next.

1749
01:29:19,773 --> 01:29:23,013
Speaker 3: Travel with Windy Woo tours where the World is Yours

1750
01:29:23,213 --> 01:29:23,813
Speaker 3: for now.

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Speaker 4: Twenty one past eleven on news Storks, he'd be our

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01:29:26,413 --> 01:29:29,453
Speaker 4: travel correspondent as Mike Yardley. And speaking of travel, sir,

1753
01:29:29,533 --> 01:29:31,893
Speaker 4: it looks like Donald Trump might be traveling very soon.

1754
01:29:32,253 --> 01:29:34,973
Speaker 4: The last words spoken in the joint press conference with

1755
01:29:35,053 --> 01:29:38,253
Speaker 4: Vladimir Putin came from the Russian president, who turned to

1756
01:29:38,373 --> 01:29:41,213
Speaker 4: his US counterpart and said, next time in Moscow.

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01:29:45,013 --> 01:29:46,973
Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, so it certainly does.

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Speaker 7: Yes. Yeah, anyway, I've been watching I've been watching Alaska

1759
01:29:50,333 --> 01:29:52,053
Speaker 7: all morning, Jack, and I think the one word I've

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01:29:52,093 --> 01:29:55,653
Speaker 7: gotten response the last six hours would be opaque. You know,

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01:29:55,813 --> 01:29:59,333
Speaker 7: we just we don't quite know what those No, there's

1762
01:29:59,413 --> 01:30:03,413
Speaker 7: clearly some sticking points. I think it would appear I've

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01:30:03,453 --> 01:30:06,453
Speaker 7: made headway but maybe those phone calls to NATO in

1764
01:30:06,493 --> 01:30:09,853
Speaker 7: Europe and Ukraine overnight will will settle the score.

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01:30:10,253 --> 01:30:12,933
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I'm sure some stuff will be think over

1766
01:30:12,973 --> 01:30:14,933
Speaker 4: the next few hours we'll get a little bit more detailed.

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01:30:15,013 --> 01:30:18,813
Speaker 4: But yeah, no, I mean, you know, I'm open minded

1768
01:30:19,573 --> 01:30:22,933
Speaker 4: obviously for the Ukrainians perspective. From the Ukrainians perspective, you

1769
01:30:22,973 --> 01:30:24,933
Speaker 4: don't want to see some deal where by the US

1770
01:30:25,053 --> 01:30:27,253
Speaker 4: is demanding the heaps of territory has given up. But

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01:30:27,333 --> 01:30:30,293
Speaker 4: also you know, as finding stop so watch the space.

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01:30:30,333 --> 01:30:33,133
Speaker 4: I suppose anyway, we are turning our attention to slightly

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01:30:33,173 --> 01:30:37,853
Speaker 4: more peaceful climbs this morning self driving the Sunshine Coast hinterland,

1774
01:30:37,933 --> 01:30:40,813
Speaker 4: and that hinterland and the Sunshine Coast just feels a

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01:30:40,893 --> 01:30:43,573
Speaker 4: total kind of world away from the from the beaches

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01:30:43,613 --> 01:30:45,213
Speaker 4: and the coast. What is the attraction?

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Speaker 7: Well, I didn't miss the fabulous thing about the Sunshine Coast, Jack,

1778
01:30:49,733 --> 01:30:52,333
Speaker 7: because the beach culture is great, but the fact you

1779
01:30:52,453 --> 01:30:55,293
Speaker 7: can zip up into the verdant highlands in just twenty

1780
01:30:55,373 --> 01:30:59,333
Speaker 7: minutes is so cool, you know, just sort of such

1781
01:30:59,373 --> 01:31:02,933
Speaker 7: a rich mix of holiday pursuits when you're over there

1782
01:31:03,053 --> 01:31:06,933
Speaker 7: and from Auckland there are now a year round wrecked

1783
01:31:07,053 --> 01:31:10,573
Speaker 7: flights to Maruci door, so it's super easy to get

1784
01:31:10,613 --> 01:31:12,973
Speaker 7: to you don't have to go through Brisbane. The thing

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01:31:13,053 --> 01:31:15,613
Speaker 7: about the hinterland and the reason I'm a hardcore fan,

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01:31:16,213 --> 01:31:19,493
Speaker 7: You've just got so many treats, these cute and cozy

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01:31:19,573 --> 01:31:25,653
Speaker 7: mountain villages, national parks and so many scenic attractions as

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01:31:25,693 --> 01:31:27,653
Speaker 7: well that you can just all stitch together on a

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Speaker 7: self drive.

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01:31:28,413 --> 01:31:30,293
Speaker 4: So where would be a good starting point.

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01:31:31,493 --> 01:31:33,533
Speaker 7: Well, I would probably head up to the northern end

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01:31:33,813 --> 01:31:37,733
Speaker 7: to your Monday. It's a very charismatic township. The signature

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01:31:37,893 --> 01:31:42,213
Speaker 7: draw they Monday Markets, which attract millions of people every year.

1794
01:31:42,613 --> 01:31:47,093
Speaker 7: Apparently it's one of the Southern Hemisphere's biggest artisan markets,

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01:31:47,453 --> 01:31:50,373
Speaker 7: so they have about six hundred stalls on a Wednesday

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Speaker 7: and a Saturday. The setting is just so gorgeous because

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01:31:53,813 --> 01:31:58,853
Speaker 7: it's staged under these sprawling fig trees with the most

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01:31:59,013 --> 01:32:03,293
Speaker 7: colossal canopy. It's just gorgeous. And the thing is get

1799
01:32:03,413 --> 01:32:06,093
Speaker 7: there early for breakfast because you could just stop yourself

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Speaker 7: to But at these markets, I always go straight to

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Speaker 7: the Langosh Caravan Tek. You can't have a better start

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01:32:14,613 --> 01:32:17,373
Speaker 7: to the day than with the Langosh, particularly when it's

1803
01:32:17,453 --> 01:32:22,973
Speaker 7: slathered and garlic, paprika, sour cream and cheese. Yeah yeah,

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01:32:24,573 --> 01:32:25,853
Speaker 7: that's the starting.

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Speaker 4: Yes, if that's where you're starting, where would you base yourself?

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Speaker 7: Well down the road from your Monday I stayed in

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Speaker 7: Yandina a couple of weeks ago and it's a very

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01:32:36,173 --> 01:32:39,893
Speaker 7: laid back, leafy township, very central to all of the

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01:32:40,013 --> 01:32:43,733
Speaker 7: hinterland draws. If you've ever fancied staying in one of

1810
01:32:43,813 --> 01:32:48,653
Speaker 7: those quintessential country ossie pubs with a big wrap around balcony,

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Speaker 7: the Yandina Hotel is a classic. It's from the eighteen eighties,

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01:32:52,813 --> 01:32:56,533
Speaker 7: this pub and from Yandina one of the best touring

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Speaker 7: routes strung across the hinterland. The fifty five k is

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Speaker 7: called the Blackhall Range route. So grab a rental car

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01:33:05,933 --> 01:33:09,893
Speaker 7: and just go crazy on this route because it just

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01:33:10,053 --> 01:33:14,413
Speaker 7: tethers all of those villages and lockouts and hiking spots together.

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Speaker 4: Nice. So what would you recommend in terms of national

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01:33:17,213 --> 01:33:18,693
Speaker 4: parks if you're like a bit of a stroll.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, the funny thing about Queensland's national parks is

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Speaker 7: they tend to be pocket to parks compared to our

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01:33:27,053 --> 01:33:29,733
Speaker 7: national parks. You know, the very sort of short and

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01:33:29,813 --> 01:33:34,373
Speaker 7: sweet experiences the two. I really like Mapleton Falls National Park.

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Speaker 7: They've got this really cool trail beer called the one

1824
01:33:38,173 --> 01:33:43,013
Speaker 7: Pi Circuit, and it's good for the nose jack because

1825
01:33:43,053 --> 01:33:47,493
Speaker 7: it's heavily scentered with eucalypse, very fragrant, and then it

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Speaker 7: climaxes with this wide curtain waterfall of the Mapleton Falls.

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Speaker 7: Close by even better Condolilla National Park. If you like

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01:33:57,933 --> 01:34:02,133
Speaker 7: your lush rainforest scenery, you will be in heaven. And

1829
01:34:02,453 --> 01:34:06,293
Speaker 7: after threading your way through the rainforest, it finishes off

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01:34:06,453 --> 01:34:10,293
Speaker 7: the swimming hole fed by this long drop waterfall. The

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01:34:10,653 --> 01:34:14,693
Speaker 7: only sticking point. You will probably be sharing that swimming

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01:34:14,773 --> 01:34:17,773
Speaker 7: hole with all sorts of loved up young things filling

1833
01:34:17,853 --> 01:34:22,573
Speaker 7: their Insta feed. So go early in the day. Yeah, okay,

1834
01:34:22,933 --> 01:34:25,653
Speaker 7: I tell you I was photo bombing so many people.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no, no, no, I know exactly, just kind

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01:34:28,653 --> 01:34:33,693
Speaker 4: of seen you describing there. So would you say Montville

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01:34:34,053 --> 01:34:36,413
Speaker 4: is one of Australia's prettiest villages.

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01:34:37,453 --> 01:34:39,533
Speaker 7: Yeah, it would have to be a hot contender. The

1839
01:34:39,653 --> 01:34:42,213
Speaker 7: moment you're first to lay eyes on the main street

1840
01:34:42,253 --> 01:34:45,893
Speaker 7: of Montfhl, story book is the word that comes to mind.

1841
01:34:45,973 --> 01:34:49,333
Speaker 7: You know, it's just one of those ridiculously adorable townships.

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01:34:49,653 --> 01:34:53,173
Speaker 7: It's catnet for tourists, kind of like a gray town

1843
01:34:53,373 --> 01:34:58,893
Speaker 7: or an arrow town Sunshine coastyle. There's a huge creative

1844
01:34:58,973 --> 01:35:02,253
Speaker 7: community in monfl So if you're after some local art,

1845
01:35:02,733 --> 01:35:05,533
Speaker 7: Monfla is where you should go. The Monfhyl Gallery. I

1846
01:35:05,693 --> 01:35:09,773
Speaker 7: just love gallery. There's over forty local artists who display

1847
01:35:09,853 --> 01:35:14,773
Speaker 7: their wares there, and I mean it spans all art genres.

1848
01:35:14,853 --> 01:35:18,653
Speaker 7: The glass art is really good. The paintings, the landscape

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01:35:18,813 --> 01:35:23,733
Speaker 7: and the seascape paintings, they slay me every time. Really impressive.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, nice, Okay. What draws the crowds to Mulaney, Well.

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01:35:28,373 --> 01:35:31,773
Speaker 7: Yeah, further down the black ll range, Mulaney is a bumpertown.

1852
01:35:31,853 --> 01:35:35,453
Speaker 7: For foodies, we'll probably talk about food and drink next week.

1853
01:35:35,613 --> 01:35:41,533
Speaker 7: But for artisan producers, Mulaney is just extraordinary in terms

1854
01:35:41,613 --> 01:35:45,013
Speaker 7: of its production. The other interesting aspect to Malaney it

1855
01:35:45,093 --> 01:35:48,813
Speaker 7: seems to attract a lot of kooks. So when you

1856
01:35:48,933 --> 01:35:52,733
Speaker 7: walk down the main street, you feel like you're in

1857
01:35:52,773 --> 01:35:56,573
Speaker 7: the world capital of alternative healing. I passed by businesses

1858
01:35:56,733 --> 01:36:02,853
Speaker 7: offering crystal healing, monica healing, cosmic dieting, whatever the hell

1859
01:36:02,973 --> 01:36:11,373
Speaker 7: that is. Aerial hemmer healing which sounds fun, soul breathing,

1860
01:36:12,093 --> 01:36:15,893
Speaker 7: and even indigenous plant based can secures, which I thought

1861
01:36:16,013 --> 01:36:18,693
Speaker 7: was a very big cause. So there is something that

1862
01:36:18,893 --> 01:36:20,413
Speaker 7: everyone in Milany jack.

1863
01:36:21,173 --> 01:36:23,413
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah right, it's one of those kind of crowds.

1864
01:36:23,453 --> 01:36:28,253
Speaker 4: Fair enough, speaking of something for everyone, Mulaney's bird World

1865
01:36:28,613 --> 01:36:29,773
Speaker 4: has the scored a big goal.

1866
01:36:31,333 --> 01:36:36,773
Speaker 7: Yes, Trip Advisor has just ranked this as Queensland's number

1867
01:36:36,893 --> 01:36:40,653
Speaker 7: one attraction, which is nothing to sniff at, but just

1868
01:36:40,773 --> 01:36:44,493
Speaker 7: out of town. This is our heads whirl of tropical

1869
01:36:44,573 --> 01:36:48,293
Speaker 7: bird life. So bird World is based at Australia's largest

1870
01:36:48,333 --> 01:36:52,213
Speaker 7: private botanical garden. It's like the mother of all menageriees.

1871
01:36:52,333 --> 01:36:57,133
Speaker 7: So they've got four free flight walk through Avery's and

1872
01:36:57,573 --> 01:37:01,813
Speaker 7: they are throbbing with over seven hundred birds. You feel

1873
01:37:01,893 --> 01:37:06,213
Speaker 7: like you've been imprisoned in a massive menagerie. I haven't

1874
01:37:06,453 --> 01:37:12,613
Speaker 7: experienced Avy in intensity quite like what you experience at

1875
01:37:12,693 --> 01:37:16,533
Speaker 7: bird World. The parrots particularly, they land all over you

1876
01:37:16,893 --> 01:37:19,813
Speaker 7: or mess head, shoulders, knees and toast and some of

1877
01:37:19,853 --> 01:37:23,053
Speaker 7: these birds a legends. So they've got Coco, the eighty

1878
01:37:23,373 --> 01:37:27,613
Speaker 7: five year old Amazon parrot who still raucously sings opera

1879
01:37:27,813 --> 01:37:32,893
Speaker 7: at eighty five. Wow, so particularly if you're traveling with kids. Yeah,

1880
01:37:33,013 --> 01:37:35,213
Speaker 7: Bird World is absolutely unmissible.

1881
01:37:35,293 --> 01:37:37,373
Speaker 4: Oh so good. All right, thank you very much, sir. Well,

1882
01:37:37,413 --> 01:37:40,013
Speaker 4: we're going to make sure all your tips for self

1883
01:37:40,093 --> 01:37:43,093
Speaker 4: driving the Sunshine Coast in the Hinterland and the Sunshine

1884
01:37:43,093 --> 01:37:44,893
Speaker 4: Coast are up on the News talk z'b website. We

1885
01:37:44,933 --> 01:37:47,893
Speaker 4: will catch you again next weekend. Make guard our travel

1886
01:37:47,933 --> 01:37:50,573
Speaker 4: correspondent don't forget beforeer day to day, we are going

1887
01:37:50,613 --> 01:37:53,213
Speaker 4: to play you some of Brett Mackenzie's new solo album.

1888
01:37:53,453 --> 01:37:56,893
Speaker 4: It's called freak Out City. Plus, Daniel Silva has got

1889
01:37:56,933 --> 01:37:59,773
Speaker 4: a brand new read, so our book reviewer Catherine Rains

1890
01:37:59,813 --> 01:38:01,373
Speaker 4: has read that she's going to give us her thoughts

1891
01:38:01,413 --> 01:38:04,453
Speaker 4: on Daniel silver what he's at New York New York

1892
01:38:04,493 --> 01:38:07,013
Speaker 4: Times number one best selling author about a gazillion times over,

1893
01:38:07,133 --> 01:38:08,733
Speaker 4: so she'd tell us about his latest thriller when she

1894
01:38:08,853 --> 01:38:11,173
Speaker 4: joins us very soon. Next up, we'll see what's planned

1895
01:38:11,173 --> 01:38:14,693
Speaker 4: for this afternoon on Weekend Sport. Massive weekend Sport ahead,

1896
01:38:14,733 --> 01:38:16,973
Speaker 4: so looking forward to that. Almost eleven thirty on News

1897
01:38:17,013 --> 01:38:17,693
Speaker 4: Talks EDB.

1898
01:38:21,293 --> 01:38:25,173
Speaker 1: Getting your weekend started. It's Saturday morning with Jack Team

1899
01:38:25,653 --> 01:38:26,693
Speaker 1: on News Talks EDB.

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01:38:27,773 --> 01:38:34,973
Speaker 9: Is Business Time is business time, Yes, best.

1901
01:38:36,493 --> 01:38:37,853
Speaker 10: The business time.

1902
01:38:38,493 --> 01:38:40,253
Speaker 8: I don't know what you're trying to say. You're trying

1903
01:38:40,293 --> 01:38:42,493
Speaker 8: to say your time for business, business time.

1904
01:38:43,573 --> 01:38:44,493
Speaker 3: Guess the best.

1905
01:38:46,053 --> 01:38:47,893
Speaker 10: Guess the besusiness time.

1906
01:38:52,293 --> 01:38:55,773
Speaker 4: Yeah, twenty seven to twelve on News Talks EDB. We

1907
01:38:55,893 --> 01:38:57,213
Speaker 4: knew he was coming in, so we just had to

1908
01:38:57,253 --> 01:39:00,373
Speaker 4: give him the special number. Jason Pine is here with

1909
01:39:00,533 --> 01:39:03,013
Speaker 4: us today in person. Such a treat and here for

1910
01:39:03,133 --> 01:39:05,773
Speaker 4: weekends sport. Good morning, sir, more than a jack. Great

1911
01:39:05,813 --> 01:39:08,093
Speaker 4: to see great to see you greatest the Warriors get

1912
01:39:08,213 --> 01:39:10,373
Speaker 4: up to my goodness, that last ten minutes last night

1913
01:39:10,533 --> 01:39:11,613
Speaker 4: was stressful.

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Speaker 23: Man.

1915
01:39:12,373 --> 01:39:14,293
Speaker 4: Can you imagine all of him? Like at the coach's box.

1916
01:39:14,853 --> 01:39:16,693
Speaker 4: We were talking this morning, just just after living with

1917
01:39:16,733 --> 01:39:20,893
Speaker 4: our clinical psychologists about the long term effects of everyday stresses,

1918
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Speaker 4: and I was like, maybe, like next week we need

1919
01:39:23,493 --> 01:39:25,533
Speaker 4: to do the long term effects of being a Warriors fan,

1920
01:39:25,653 --> 01:39:27,933
Speaker 4: because yeah, it was it was a lot.

1921
01:39:28,293 --> 01:39:31,013
Speaker 24: It was just important they won though, right because after

1922
01:39:31,053 --> 01:39:33,773
Speaker 24: three straight defeats, it doesn't matter really how you do it.

1923
01:39:33,973 --> 01:39:35,213
Speaker 4: It's just that you do it.

1924
01:39:35,773 --> 01:39:37,373
Speaker 24: And what it's done is you look at the table

1925
01:39:37,453 --> 01:39:37,773
Speaker 24: this morning.

1926
01:39:37,773 --> 01:39:38,293
Speaker 4: It doesn't lie.

1927
01:39:38,413 --> 01:39:40,853
Speaker 24: Here's the Warriors back and forth with their destiny now

1928
01:39:40,893 --> 01:39:43,253
Speaker 24: in their own hands, three games to go, win them all.

1929
01:39:43,533 --> 01:39:45,533
Speaker 24: They're in the top four. I know there's a lot

1930
01:39:45,573 --> 01:39:47,733
Speaker 24: of water to flow under the bridge before that happens,

1931
01:39:47,813 --> 01:39:51,933
Speaker 24: but getting that win last night was so crucial. And yeah,

1932
01:39:51,973 --> 01:39:55,613
Speaker 24: they'll freely admit they were nowhere near their best. But

1933
01:39:55,733 --> 01:39:57,813
Speaker 24: as I say, sometimes you just got to win the game,

1934
01:39:58,413 --> 01:40:00,253
Speaker 24: and anyway you can win ugly, eke it.

1935
01:40:00,253 --> 01:40:02,733
Speaker 4: Out, squeak it at the result. So you're talking Warriors

1936
01:40:02,733 --> 01:40:05,133
Speaker 4: after midday today? Yeah, Rache assistant coach on the show.

1937
01:40:05,173 --> 01:40:07,693
Speaker 4: There are lots of calls obviously on that, but yeah, no,

1938
01:40:07,813 --> 01:40:09,773
Speaker 4: good to it. But it's such a busy weekend yet

1939
01:40:09,773 --> 01:40:12,173
Speaker 4: there's so much I know, it's crazy that you and

1940
01:40:12,253 --> 01:40:14,053
Speaker 4: I are very excited because the English Premier League is

1941
01:40:14,133 --> 01:40:16,693
Speaker 4: kicked off, but of course the Rugby Championship tomorrow morning

1942
01:40:16,773 --> 01:40:19,413
Speaker 4: nine o'clock Newstalks. He'd be or have live coverage. How

1943
01:40:19,413 --> 01:40:21,613
Speaker 4: are you feeling about this game with lost pumas?

1944
01:40:21,933 --> 01:40:23,893
Speaker 24: Curious actually to see how they go. I'm damed very

1945
01:40:23,933 --> 01:40:26,373
Speaker 24: strong side. The All Blacks look apart from Wallace to

1946
01:40:26,453 --> 01:40:28,213
Speaker 24: tit and to Mighty Williams sore both injured. I think

1947
01:40:28,213 --> 01:40:30,653
Speaker 24: it's the strongest possible site that can be put out.

1948
01:40:30,733 --> 01:40:33,613
Speaker 24: So it's a real statement of intent from Scott Robertson.

1949
01:40:33,853 --> 01:40:36,773
Speaker 24: I think we all admit that the French series, you know,

1950
01:40:37,893 --> 01:40:39,973
Speaker 24: it was good at times. Yeah, but there was bits

1951
01:40:40,053 --> 01:40:43,093
Speaker 24: that that we needed to see more from, or there

1952
01:40:43,133 --> 01:40:44,813
Speaker 24: were parts of the All Blacks game we need to

1953
01:40:44,813 --> 01:40:48,733
Speaker 24: see more from. So look, it's a it's an intriguing prospect.

1954
01:40:49,293 --> 01:40:52,613
Speaker 24: The Pumas are not the walkovers they used to be.

1955
01:40:52,853 --> 01:40:55,653
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really changed. I mean, you know, the dynamics

1956
01:40:55,693 --> 01:40:57,973
Speaker 4: in world rugby have obviously changed over the last few years,

1957
01:40:58,013 --> 01:41:00,093
Speaker 4: but they've had some impressive results of late. I mean,

1958
01:41:00,213 --> 01:41:01,613
Speaker 4: you know on our shores.

1959
01:41:02,933 --> 01:41:05,333
Speaker 24: Else Yeah, they've made us see last year. Oddly they've

1960
01:41:05,373 --> 01:41:06,333
Speaker 24: never beaten us over there.

1961
01:41:06,453 --> 01:41:06,653
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1962
01:41:06,813 --> 01:41:06,973
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1963
01:41:07,853 --> 01:41:10,173
Speaker 24: Twenty one all drawer in nineteen eighty five the closest

1964
01:41:10,213 --> 01:41:13,413
Speaker 24: they got on that day. Hugo Porter four penalties and

1965
01:41:13,453 --> 01:41:16,213
Speaker 24: three drop goals. He kept all twenty one points for

1966
01:41:16,413 --> 01:41:18,813
Speaker 24: Argentina that day. He's on the show this afternoon, just

1967
01:41:18,893 --> 01:41:22,053
Speaker 24: after one. He's still a very close observer of Argentine

1968
01:41:22,093 --> 01:41:23,893
Speaker 24: and rugby, plus left some great memories, so have a

1969
01:41:23,933 --> 01:41:26,373
Speaker 24: chat to him. Tall Blacks as well, tonight in action

1970
01:41:26,453 --> 01:41:29,813
Speaker 24: against China in the semi finals of the Asian Cup Basketball.

1971
01:41:29,853 --> 01:41:32,853
Speaker 4: It's a possible eight. It's a very we beat them recently.

1972
01:41:32,693 --> 01:41:33,053
Speaker 5: Right yeah.

1973
01:41:33,133 --> 01:41:36,133
Speaker 24: Yeah, and other side of the drawer Australia, I run.

1974
01:41:36,213 --> 01:41:37,333
Speaker 24: I think it is the out of the court another

1975
01:41:37,373 --> 01:41:38,733
Speaker 24: semi so we could be on a.

1976
01:41:39,493 --> 01:41:43,173
Speaker 4: Result was just so good. Twenty one points down yet incredible.

1977
01:41:43,293 --> 01:41:43,453
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1978
01:41:43,533 --> 01:41:46,133
Speaker 4: Yeah, to come back from that in the Lebanese like

1979
01:41:46,173 --> 01:41:48,693
Speaker 4: the shots of the Lebanese team and their supporters, they

1980
01:41:48,853 --> 01:41:50,133
Speaker 4: just sort of look completely flummy.

1981
01:41:50,213 --> 01:41:50,373
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1982
01:41:50,373 --> 01:41:53,733
Speaker 24: Blood the end of it is that happen distraught? Yeah,

1983
01:41:53,813 --> 01:41:56,293
Speaker 24: but no, so there's a bit of sl GP. The

1984
01:41:56,413 --> 01:41:58,293
Speaker 24: darts is on and as you say, the Premier League

1985
01:41:58,333 --> 01:42:00,333
Speaker 24: football season. We'll try and cover off as much of

1986
01:42:00,373 --> 01:42:01,613
Speaker 24: it as we can. Yeah, you're going to be a

1987
01:42:01,613 --> 01:42:04,373
Speaker 24: busy man, not wanting for content. This afternoon, Jason Pine

1988
01:42:04,413 --> 01:42:06,893
Speaker 24: with us for Weekendsport right after the midday news, kicking

1989
01:42:06,933 --> 01:42:09,493
Speaker 24: off with a look at that incredible Warriors when last night.

1990
01:42:09,813 --> 01:42:11,173
Speaker 4: Thank you very much, sir. Thanks Jack.

1991
01:42:11,693 --> 01:42:15,893
Speaker 1: Saturday Morning with Jack Team fulk Show podcast on iHeartRadio

1992
01:42:16,213 --> 01:42:17,733
Speaker 1: powered by Newstalk ZEDB.

1993
01:42:19,093 --> 01:42:21,413
Speaker 4: Twenty one to twelve on news Talks, he'd be time

1994
01:42:21,453 --> 01:42:23,533
Speaker 4: to catch up with our book reviewer Katherine Rains for

1995
01:42:23,653 --> 01:42:28,133
Speaker 4: her recommendations this weekend. Hey you, Catherine, Hi Jack. Two

1996
01:42:28,413 --> 01:42:30,573
Speaker 4: very different sounding books for us this morning, but both

1997
01:42:30,613 --> 01:42:33,213
Speaker 4: of them tantalizing in their own ways. Let's begin with

1998
01:42:33,293 --> 01:42:36,173
Speaker 4: the latest from Daniel Silver. An inside Job.

1999
01:42:37,453 --> 01:42:40,453
Speaker 26: So Gabriellen and his last few books had resigned from

2000
01:42:40,493 --> 01:42:44,813
Speaker 26: Masad and he his favorite activity is restoring paintings. So

2001
01:42:45,533 --> 01:42:47,653
Speaker 26: together with his wife Chiara and his two children, they

2002
01:42:47,653 --> 01:42:49,613
Speaker 26: live in Venice and they run a company that's about

2003
01:42:49,613 --> 01:42:52,173
Speaker 26: restoring art and life's pretty good for him. He's kind

2004
01:42:52,173 --> 01:42:53,973
Speaker 26: of worrying about his daughter Irene a little bit. He's

2005
01:42:54,013 --> 01:42:57,453
Speaker 26: a bit of an activist streak, and his son Rafael,

2006
01:42:57,453 --> 01:43:00,133
Speaker 26: who's great at mathson but also has his father's talent

2007
01:43:00,293 --> 01:43:02,813
Speaker 26: for art. And then all of a sudden, life, of course,

2008
01:43:02,853 --> 01:43:05,653
Speaker 26: becomes less peaceful when he finds a body floating in

2009
01:43:05,653 --> 01:43:07,493
Speaker 26: the waters of Venice, and it turns out to be

2010
01:43:07,573 --> 01:43:09,733
Speaker 26: a story of art who used to work in the

2011
01:43:09,853 --> 01:43:12,733
Speaker 26: art department at the Vatican. And Gabrielle, of course still

2012
01:43:12,773 --> 01:43:15,213
Speaker 26: sees and remembers things that others don't and makes mental

2013
01:43:15,213 --> 01:43:18,053
Speaker 26: connections that others miss and he gets involved in situations

2014
01:43:18,173 --> 01:43:21,013
Speaker 26: that he just won't let go of until he works

2015
01:43:21,053 --> 01:43:24,453
Speaker 26: out what has gone on, and questions lead Gabrielle to

2016
01:43:24,533 --> 01:43:28,413
Speaker 26: this unknown Leonardo da Vinci painting which the role was

2017
01:43:28,453 --> 01:43:30,893
Speaker 26: in a financial scandal and concerns the Vatican and it

2018
01:43:31,013 --> 01:43:33,493
Speaker 26: might become a real disaster for the Church. So he

2019
01:43:33,573 --> 01:43:36,613
Speaker 26: follows the threat of the story from its lead to France,

2020
01:43:36,693 --> 01:43:39,733
Speaker 26: to art experts, to multiple countries, to organized crime, to

2021
01:43:39,813 --> 01:43:42,133
Speaker 26: the in the workings of the Vatican. And it's not

2022
01:43:42,213 --> 01:43:44,693
Speaker 26: so much now a spy novel. It's more an art

2023
01:43:44,813 --> 01:43:48,213
Speaker 26: heist novel, and it's really focused on that financial world

2024
01:43:48,253 --> 01:43:50,093
Speaker 26: and the world of art, and it's fast paced and

2025
01:43:50,173 --> 01:43:53,573
Speaker 26: the secrets and art history and the Vatican and lots

2026
01:43:53,573 --> 01:43:56,813
Speaker 26: of beautiful localities and planning your twists and turns and

2027
01:43:56,893 --> 01:43:59,333
Speaker 26: the action unfolds you around you like almost like you're

2028
01:43:59,373 --> 01:44:00,333
Speaker 26: on a cinematic journey.

2029
01:44:00,573 --> 01:44:03,373
Speaker 4: Yeah, well sounds fantastic. He's so good, a Daniel Silva.

2030
01:44:04,253 --> 01:44:04,613
Speaker 9: Very good.

2031
01:44:04,773 --> 01:44:07,493
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, there's a reason he's Yeah, you're taught the

2032
01:44:07,533 --> 01:44:10,253
Speaker 4: best sellers how many times? So that's an inside job.

2033
01:44:10,813 --> 01:44:14,053
Speaker 4: His latest read next up, What I Ate in One

2034
01:44:14,173 --> 01:44:15,293
Speaker 4: Year by Stanley Tucci.

2035
01:44:16,253 --> 01:44:18,893
Speaker 26: So Stanley Tucci is an actor and he starred in

2036
01:44:18,973 --> 01:44:21,613
Speaker 26: various movies. Probably the one he's most well known for

2037
01:44:21,813 --> 01:44:24,773
Speaker 26: is The Devil Words Prouder and this is our Foody Memoir.

2038
01:44:24,933 --> 01:44:27,173
Speaker 26: And he writes this from January the second, twenty twenty

2039
01:44:27,213 --> 01:44:29,893
Speaker 26: three to January the second, twenty twenty four, and there's

2040
01:44:29,933 --> 01:44:32,493
Speaker 26: recipes and things about his travels and about his family

2041
01:44:32,573 --> 01:44:36,213
Speaker 26: and his children and friends and friends of friends sharing meals,

2042
01:44:36,373 --> 01:44:39,813
Speaker 26: and that reads like diary entries with the actual dates

2043
01:44:39,853 --> 01:44:43,653
Speaker 26: throughout the year, and he sometimes actually talks about what

2044
01:44:43,773 --> 01:44:45,973
Speaker 26: his wife and kids ate on a particular day and

2045
01:44:46,413 --> 01:44:49,733
Speaker 26: the other life happenings that are going on. And there's

2046
01:44:49,813 --> 01:44:52,973
Speaker 26: these beautifully mouth watering details of the meals and those

2047
01:44:53,053 --> 01:44:56,213
Speaker 26: simple home cooked dishes to these extravagant feasts at high

2048
01:44:56,293 --> 01:44:59,413
Speaker 26: end restaurants. And he has this reliability to connect food

2049
01:44:59,533 --> 01:45:02,853
Speaker 26: with personal memories and cultural insights. And you get recipes

2050
01:45:02,893 --> 01:45:04,893
Speaker 26: throughout the book that invite you to try some of

2051
01:45:04,973 --> 01:45:07,853
Speaker 26: those dishes. And he knows as food and he relishes

2052
01:45:07,933 --> 01:45:10,413
Speaker 26: food and the role that it plays. And you know,

2053
01:45:10,493 --> 01:45:12,773
Speaker 26: he just reflects but on his personal life and his

2054
01:45:12,893 --> 01:45:16,093
Speaker 26: parenting and his children and his wife Felicity, and he

2055
01:45:16,173 --> 01:45:19,573
Speaker 26: balances worth, humor and a bit of self reflection and yeah,

2056
01:45:19,733 --> 01:45:21,733
Speaker 26: and those memorable meals that he has. And it's not

2057
01:45:21,893 --> 01:45:25,413
Speaker 26: just about food, it's about connection. But it almost almost,

2058
01:45:25,493 --> 01:45:27,493
Speaker 26: I might say, inspires you to spend some time in

2059
01:45:27,533 --> 01:45:29,773
Speaker 26: the kitchen experimenting with new foods and recipes.

2060
01:45:29,893 --> 01:45:33,973
Speaker 4: Almos quiet almost Yeah, Yeah, you weren't pushed over the edge. Yeah,

2061
01:45:34,013 --> 01:45:36,933
Speaker 4: because he's he's had one of two TV shows doing

2062
01:45:36,973 --> 01:45:40,973
Speaker 4: the same thing. Yeah, yeah, he has memoir kind of yeah,

2063
01:45:41,653 --> 01:45:42,053
Speaker 4: sorry you go.

2064
01:45:42,893 --> 01:45:46,173
Speaker 26: He's written a memoir before Taste as well, so it

2065
01:45:46,293 --> 01:45:47,333
Speaker 26: kind of follows along from that.

2066
01:45:47,773 --> 01:45:49,733
Speaker 4: It's fantastic, all right, looking forward to both of those.

2067
01:45:49,813 --> 01:45:52,413
Speaker 4: Thank you, Catherine. So what I ate in one year

2068
01:45:53,293 --> 01:45:56,093
Speaker 4: is the new read from Stanley Tucci. An Inside Job

2069
01:45:56,293 --> 01:45:58,613
Speaker 4: is Daniel Silver's latest. We'll make sure all the details

2070
01:45:58,653 --> 01:46:00,773
Speaker 4: for both of those are up on the news talks.

2071
01:46:00,773 --> 01:46:03,733
Speaker 4: He'd the website eighteen to twelve new music from Brett

2072
01:46:03,813 --> 01:46:06,173
Speaker 4: McKenzie heat a Flight of the Concord's Fame.

2073
01:46:06,813 --> 01:46:10,413
Speaker 1: Next, giving you the inside scoop on All you need

2074
01:46:10,453 --> 01:46:14,133
Speaker 1: to Know This Saturday Morning with Jack Dame us Talks

2075
01:46:14,173 --> 01:46:14,413
Speaker 1: it be.

2076
01:46:20,133 --> 01:46:21,533
Speaker 10: I can't believe or.

2077
01:46:23,533 --> 01:46:39,213
Speaker 13: I oh my dead calls me, yes is all my

2078
01:46:39,613 --> 01:46:47,253
Speaker 13: song got light on the jobbing doing on my us.

2079
01:46:48,453 --> 01:46:52,373
Speaker 4: Use that said, that is Brent Mackenzie. You recognize the

2080
01:46:52,453 --> 01:46:55,373
Speaker 4: voice a kind of an ecliptic little sound, isn't it.

2081
01:46:55,453 --> 01:46:57,893
Speaker 4: The song is called Freekat City, the album is called

2082
01:46:57,933 --> 01:47:01,213
Speaker 4: freakat City. Is Stelle Clifford is our music review. She

2083
01:47:01,333 --> 01:47:03,333
Speaker 4: never freaks out, but she's with us now morning.

2084
01:47:03,453 --> 01:47:06,293
Speaker 27: Not if it could happen to you. It could happen.

2085
01:47:07,253 --> 01:47:11,173
Speaker 27: It's just it's so kta Like I'm already singing along

2086
01:47:11,253 --> 01:47:13,133
Speaker 27: to this album and I've only given it a couple

2087
01:47:13,173 --> 01:47:17,293
Speaker 27: of lessens yesterday. But there's just something about his music

2088
01:47:17,373 --> 01:47:21,253
Speaker 27: that gets under your skin, and I like that it's

2089
01:47:21,333 --> 01:47:23,853
Speaker 27: kind of got Like that song in particular, has this

2090
01:47:24,053 --> 01:47:27,573
Speaker 27: like disbelieving Wow, can you believe that this can kind

2091
01:47:27,573 --> 01:47:31,053
Speaker 27: of happen? Yeah, but it still has this sort of

2092
01:47:31,213 --> 01:47:35,653
Speaker 27: like humor running underneath it and delivered in that quirky,

2093
01:47:36,333 --> 01:47:39,613
Speaker 27: fun kind of way that I think this is Brett

2094
01:47:39,653 --> 01:47:42,933
Speaker 27: Mackenzie's thing now, isn't it? Like you could imagine it

2095
01:47:42,973 --> 01:47:46,533
Speaker 27: could become a whole show. I think the live version

2096
01:47:46,653 --> 01:47:50,893
Speaker 27: of this would be quite fascinating, And I don't know,

2097
01:47:51,053 --> 01:47:53,893
Speaker 27: I almost expect it to be like a musical show,

2098
01:47:54,053 --> 01:47:55,373
Speaker 27: like a stage show.

2099
01:47:55,573 --> 01:47:56,413
Speaker 4: Yeah right, No, it does.

2100
01:47:56,493 --> 01:47:57,533
Speaker 7: It does sound like that.

2101
01:47:57,733 --> 01:47:59,253
Speaker 27: Yeah, I don't know if you think this whole album

2102
01:47:59,293 --> 01:48:00,973
Speaker 27: should be a stage show, but there's kind of got

2103
01:48:01,013 --> 01:48:03,413
Speaker 27: that that sound behind it, and I think that speaks

2104
01:48:03,453 --> 01:48:06,173
Speaker 27: a lot into how he's done so well at creating

2105
01:48:06,213 --> 01:48:09,293
Speaker 27: a career for himself and that he writes music for

2106
01:48:10,093 --> 01:48:14,813
Speaker 27: film and those kind of productions. And he's also so

2107
01:48:14,973 --> 01:48:17,333
Speaker 27: this album here, he wanted to do it like it

2108
01:48:17,413 --> 01:48:19,413
Speaker 27: was like a seventies live band, So he wanted that

2109
01:48:19,573 --> 01:48:22,253
Speaker 27: kind of sound. And I also really liked that he

2110
01:48:22,333 --> 01:48:24,173
Speaker 27: wanted to pay tribute to his dad. So his dad

2111
01:48:24,213 --> 01:48:27,253
Speaker 27: passed away a couple of years ago, his biggest fan,

2112
01:48:27,413 --> 01:48:29,893
Speaker 27: as you are with you with your children. But he

2113
01:48:30,013 --> 01:48:33,573
Speaker 27: really liked music that you could hear the lyrics, understand

2114
01:48:33,613 --> 01:48:36,413
Speaker 27: the lyrics, and you could sing along. Yeah, And so

2115
01:48:36,573 --> 01:48:39,253
Speaker 27: that's what he's really captured well here. I think a

2116
01:48:39,293 --> 01:48:41,493
Speaker 27: lot of Brett Mackenzie's music is like that. You can

2117
01:48:41,533 --> 01:48:44,573
Speaker 27: pick up on the lyrics, the catchy melodies, and then

2118
01:48:44,613 --> 01:48:46,653
Speaker 27: before you know it, you know the songs and you're

2119
01:48:46,933 --> 01:48:49,173
Speaker 27: you're singing along to them. So I kind of love

2120
01:48:49,213 --> 01:48:50,733
Speaker 27: that he's had that in the back of his mind

2121
01:48:51,453 --> 01:48:55,893
Speaker 27: while creating this and outside of film, which comes with like,

2122
01:48:56,053 --> 01:48:57,693
Speaker 27: we want the song to be this long, it has

2123
01:48:57,773 --> 01:48:59,453
Speaker 27: to have this in it, it has to have this beat.

2124
01:48:59,893 --> 01:49:01,293
Speaker 27: He gets to play a little bit more when he

2125
01:49:01,373 --> 01:49:04,053
Speaker 27: does his individual stuff. But still I think with that

2126
01:49:04,253 --> 01:49:06,493
Speaker 27: quirky storytelling.

2127
01:49:06,373 --> 01:49:08,573
Speaker 4: I mean, it's still very quirky story because he's an

2128
01:49:08,573 --> 01:49:10,853
Speaker 4: incredible Like the thing is with Far of the Conquers,

2129
01:49:10,893 --> 01:49:14,293
Speaker 4: I feel like people kind of forget just how talented

2130
01:49:14,333 --> 01:49:17,933
Speaker 4: they are as musics. I mean obviously and the comedians

2131
01:49:17,973 --> 01:49:20,813
Speaker 4: and all of that, but like Brit Mackenzie has real

2132
01:49:20,933 --> 01:49:21,693
Speaker 4: musical chops.

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Speaker 27: Absolutely, this is a This is a guy who grew

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Speaker 27: up as a kid being He grew up in the

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Speaker 27: National Youth Orchestra right like so, and he played did

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Speaker 27: he play o bo or something something obscure and jazz

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01:49:33,133 --> 01:49:36,173
Speaker 27: musician background, which means they they are able to jam,

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Speaker 27: they're able to follow a lead. And he tests his

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01:49:38,853 --> 01:49:41,053
Speaker 27: life band with that quite a lot. And he's not

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Speaker 27: afraid to leaven. I wouldn't say the mistakes, but the

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Speaker 27: stuff that kind of naturally happens. He's quite good at

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Speaker 27: capturing that. I think he likes the thrill of that live,

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Speaker 27: crazy setting Ye to go. So if you can capture

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Speaker 27: that energy and put it into music, even though there

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01:49:58,773 --> 01:50:01,733
Speaker 27: might be some underlying dark humor, there might be some

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01:50:01,853 --> 01:50:04,773
Speaker 27: quirky little sound effects that go into the production, there's

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Speaker 27: there's yeah, there's like a lot of talent that goes mind.

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Speaker 27: I think it also says a lot when you go

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Speaker 27: back and listen to Flight to the Concords how much

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Speaker 27: he must have been quite the driving force behind writing.

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Speaker 7: A lot music.

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Speaker 27: The music, ye, and then the delivery and performance sort

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01:50:20,573 --> 01:50:22,333
Speaker 27: of came from there. This is a guy who's born

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Speaker 27: into music. Really, isn't he? A real beautiful song that's

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01:50:25,813 --> 01:50:28,053
Speaker 27: on this album. He actually has finally written a song

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01:50:28,253 --> 01:50:31,013
Speaker 27: for his wife. I mean, they've only been together for

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Speaker 27: nearly three decades, and it's got this real New Orleans

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01:50:34,413 --> 01:50:37,413
Speaker 27: jazzy vibe, which I think again plays into that quirky

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Speaker 27: sort of music when the full band's walking down the

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Speaker 27: street having a festival.

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Speaker 4: It's got that.

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Speaker 27: I think he should pay tribute to her. I don't

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01:50:45,333 --> 01:50:48,813
Speaker 27: imagine it's easy to be with someone who's a traveling muso,

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01:50:50,253 --> 01:50:54,013
Speaker 27: so to share his love for her and oh yeah,

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Speaker 27: I think it's it's a really pretty beautiful song. It's

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01:50:56,933 --> 01:51:00,813
Speaker 27: quite simple, I guess in its creation. But some of

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01:51:00,853 --> 01:51:03,373
Speaker 27: the best love songs are for sure. You don't have

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01:51:03,453 --> 01:51:05,333
Speaker 27: to have a bit too tricky about it, right, All

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01:51:05,413 --> 01:51:08,173
Speaker 27: I need is that song, and yeah, it gave me.

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Speaker 27: It's got the warm, fuzzy feel and I think actually

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Speaker 27: a lot of this album kind of does it made

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01:51:13,573 --> 01:51:16,853
Speaker 27: me feel happy, Like overall this album he'd be talking

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01:51:16,893 --> 01:51:19,493
Speaker 27: about social commentary on what's happening in life, you know.

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Speaker 4: But but the extra style is so is there anything

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01:51:23,653 --> 01:51:28,333
Speaker 4: So there's nothing that's too sort of Maudlin or you know,

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01:51:28,493 --> 01:51:30,813
Speaker 4: there's no ballady kind of things. It's all it's all

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01:51:30,893 --> 01:51:32,253
Speaker 4: everything's quite yeah, right.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 27: Again, he's someone who's he's quite open about his fandom

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01:51:35,693 --> 01:51:38,773
Speaker 27: for Paul McCartney, and so it has that songwriting kind

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01:51:38,853 --> 01:51:41,573
Speaker 27: of style. He could just easily play this music guy

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01:51:41,613 --> 01:51:44,693
Speaker 27: and his guitar, or then he can add that full band,

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01:51:44,813 --> 01:51:47,853
Speaker 27: full production and there's there's more of that, there's more

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01:51:47,853 --> 01:51:51,133
Speaker 27: of the orchestral full band stuff. Maybe some of the

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01:51:51,213 --> 01:51:53,293
Speaker 27: songs would be just as beautiful and nice if he

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01:51:53,373 --> 01:51:55,453
Speaker 27: did scale it back a little bit, which he does

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01:51:55,493 --> 01:51:58,333
Speaker 27: a little bit on the All I Need Is Love song,

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01:51:58,773 --> 01:52:02,253
Speaker 27: but predominantly it's got that full band kind of big

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01:52:02,733 --> 01:52:05,613
Speaker 27: brightness and backing about it. And and that's okay though,

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01:52:05,653 --> 01:52:07,453
Speaker 27: Like if that's where he to play and he wants

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01:52:07,453 --> 01:52:10,013
Speaker 27: to be surrounded by lots of people, then so be it.

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01:52:10,093 --> 01:52:12,613
Speaker 27: He's going to be touring this album in the States

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01:52:12,653 --> 01:52:16,613
Speaker 27: in October and teasing that he might be back to

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01:52:16,773 --> 01:52:19,213
Speaker 27: tour this album late summer for us.

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Speaker 17: Yeah.

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01:52:19,973 --> 01:52:21,973
Speaker 27: Great, you'll have the album well under your skin by

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01:52:22,013 --> 01:52:25,613
Speaker 27: the time, you know, he gets to And if you

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01:52:25,693 --> 01:52:28,453
Speaker 27: just want some quirky energy, there's a bit of somber jazz.

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Speaker 27: He's been influenced by a lot of styles, but for

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01:52:31,093 --> 01:52:34,533
Speaker 27: the most part as a pretty upbeat take. Let's not

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Speaker 27: get too low and glom on what's happening, you know,

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01:52:36,653 --> 01:52:38,733
Speaker 27: like it's happening, but let's have a positive outlook on

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01:52:39,453 --> 01:52:40,013
Speaker 27: what that means.

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01:52:40,133 --> 01:52:42,013
Speaker 4: So very good? Okay, cool? So what did you give it?

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01:52:42,693 --> 01:52:43,773
Speaker 27: It's an am for me?

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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, I will very much time. So The Freak

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01:52:48,613 --> 01:52:50,973
Speaker 4: Out City is the album from Britt McKenzie. Will play

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Speaker 4: but more than a few minutes. Thank you so much

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Speaker 4: of Stelle Hostelle. Clifford is our music reviewer and she'll

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Speaker 4: be back with us again this time next Saturday morning.

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Speaker 4: Right now, it is just gone eight minutes to twelve, don't.

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Speaker 1: You Saturday Saturday Morning with Jack Team News Talks AB Oh.

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Speaker 4: It's been a big weekend already, big weekend here. Don't

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Speaker 4: forget of course that News Talks ABB is gonna have

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Speaker 4: live coverage of the All Blacks and the Pumas in

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Speaker 4: Game one of the Rugby Championship twenty twenty five. That

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Speaker 4: is Manyana tomorrow morning, live from Corridolla in Argentina. Elliott

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Speaker 4: Smith and Ants Strong will have the call, so tune

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Speaker 4: in from nine. I think kickoff is at about ten

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Speaker 4: past nine tomorrow morning. Thank you so much for all

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Speaker 4: of your text and emails throughout the morning on Newstalks EDB.

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Speaker 4: Thanks as always to my wonderful producer Libby for running

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Speaker 4: the ship and Jason Pine is standing by to take

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Speaker 4: over this afternoon. Looking that amazing Warriors result last night

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01:53:55,613 --> 01:53:59,373
Speaker 4: and talking to a hero of a famous Argentine Rugby victory.

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Speaker 4: We're going to leave you with Brett McKenzie. Though his

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Speaker 4: brand new album is Free Cout City. This song's called

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Speaker 4: All I Need. I'll see you next week starting.

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Speaker 10: In your.

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01:54:13,333 --> 01:54:14,853
Speaker 3: There is a music to my.

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01:54:19,093 --> 01:54:21,013
Speaker 10: Somebody your man.

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01:54:24,173 --> 01:54:31,133
Speaker 11: I can sing your soby, not a notion you consent,

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01:54:34,893 --> 01:54:36,453
Speaker 11: not a soul that you could.

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01:54:40,333 --> 01:54:42,093
Speaker 4: Not amount to scan.

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01:54:44,693 --> 01:54:44,813
Speaker 3: Lar.

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Speaker 10: Just hope the staves. I hope you have never had.

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Speaker 11: Sob last adoption, Well, I think you your heart to.

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01:55:03,933 --> 01:55:08,853
Speaker 4: Go, oh honey, yeah you got it all.

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01:55:10,893 --> 01:55:18,853
Speaker 13: When I think you do, you get muscle, you god, Yeah,

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01:55:18,893 --> 01:55:19,573
Speaker 13: you got your.

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01:55:24,933 --> 01:55:25,533
Speaker 3: Your honey go.

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01:55:27,573 --> 01:55:30,293
Speaker 13: You all the honey, Yeah you got it oo.

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01:55:32,453 --> 01:55:33,173
Speaker 10: When I'm thinking you.

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01:55:35,893 --> 01:55:36,733
Speaker 3: Got my sol.

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01:55:38,373 --> 01:55:41,173
Speaker 10: You all line, Yeah, you got it all.

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