1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,200 Speaker 1: Monday morning means the Prime Minister's in the studio. Very 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: good morning to you. 3 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 2: Good morning, Mike. I've just come from TV ins sad. 4 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 2: They said they'd take you for celebrity treasure roll all 5 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 2: they did today. 6 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: I know, I said, I don't think you're something like No, 7 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: I know, I know if I enter, I win, I've 8 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: got on, you'd be hopeless at it. 9 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 2: Let's be honest about it. 10 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: You come in here, well, no, no, you've got to 11 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: hit me with all your questions. 12 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 2: I got to say. I think, I mean, it's nice 13 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 2: you're going to give it a go, but I can't 14 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 2: see you surviving without your pig screen TV renting and 15 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 2: raving it. 16 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's probably true. It's probably true. To be fair, 17 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 1: did you no insultant tended at all? But did anything 18 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: tangible come out of the weekend with all I mean 19 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: apart from we're all good friends and we all agree 20 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: that there needs to be a sea sprid c. 21 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. Here, and I've got quite a lot of sort 22 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 2: of regular contact their respective these sort of formal set 23 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 2: piece meetings. But the big thing was saying, hey, listen, 24 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: we've had this single economic market, we've had this thing 25 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 2: going for a while. We've got good you know, we've 26 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:53,959 Speaker 2: made good progress on that over thirty years or so, 27 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: but we actually should revisit all of that and actually 28 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 2: say why on earth are our standards? And so we've 29 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 2: got our zeal standards, Australian standards bodies working together. You've 30 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 2: seen things like chartered accountancy bodies come together as one organization. 31 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:10,479 Speaker 2: But he's got challenges within the states, within the Australia 32 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,839 Speaker 2: that they sort of have differences of standards and regulations 33 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 2: and stuff. And if we can get rid of some 34 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 2: more of that stuff, it's not sexy stuff, but it's 35 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,479 Speaker 2: actually does so we will come out of that. Yeah. 36 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: So we've got the leaders We met with the Australian's 37 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 2: own Leadership Forum, which is CEO is on both sides 38 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 2: of big businesses on each side of the Tasman and 39 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 2: we've tasked them to think through what more we could 40 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 2: be doing, just the dumb stuff that's just you know, 41 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 2: idiotic that we should get rid of. 42 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: Okay, P and you since you were last two year 43 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: up there and we've got looking for an embassy, Now, 44 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: what was the point of that. 45 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 2: Well, P and G's quite important in the Pacific it's 46 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: three quarters of the Pacific land mass, three quarters of 47 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 2: the Pacific population, and it's sort of I think I 48 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 2: set to eleven to fifteen million people have to be 49 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: on their census and it's in the middle of Asia 50 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: and Pacific, and so it's actually quite an important country 51 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 2: in the region. And you know, we've it's got growth, 52 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 2: potentially young population and so there's actually new his they 53 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: old businesses that have actually been doing quite well up there, 54 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 2: and more infrastructure building and some development that's taking place. 55 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: A lot was made of the fact you were there 56 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: when you could have been in the Cooks but you're 57 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: not for obvious reasons. Was that deliberate? 58 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: Well, I mean our message very clearly to the Coxes. 59 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,119 Speaker 2: We've got an issue with Cook Island's government. Actually there's 60 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 2: no political contact at this point where any officials work 61 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 2: through what we can do to mitigate the risks that 62 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 2: we see in those comprehensive stategic partnerships signed with China 63 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 2: we had. Our issue was not with the Cook Islands people, 64 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 2: but it is definitely with the Prime Minister and with 65 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 2: the government there, and we expect them to engage with 66 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 2: us on that conversation. So fiftyeth celebration fifty year anniversary 67 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: of P and G independence and you I. 68 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: Was there, right, mixed message from you last week you 69 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: said the chances are fifteen percent isn't coming down to ten. 70 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: There's not a lot we can do about it, fair enough? 71 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: Why is McLean now in Washington? Then? 72 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 2: I think our official trade officials and and I thought 73 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 2: McLay was going. Now he's just he's been Indonesia. 74 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,839 Speaker 1: And Indonesia signed that I wanted, So he's not going 75 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 1: to Washington. 76 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 2: Well, he will go, but I just say, yeah, it's 77 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 2: not actually just about the tariffs. We actually need. What 78 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:02,839 Speaker 2: I'm trying to do with our relationship with the US 79 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 2: since I started, was to say it's not just leaders 80 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 2: leader you know Trump and I, it's actually, you know, 81 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 2: it's actually making sure we know there's fifteen to twenty 82 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 2: people that we've got to build out across that system. 83 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 2: And so having ongoing dialogue conversation with them is the 84 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 2: right thing to keep doing, irrespective of you know, the 85 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 2: fact we don't like the fifteen percent tariffs, and we 86 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 2: can keep talking about it, but we also have to 87 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 2: sort of accept I don't think it's changing, as I 88 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 2: said last week. Ok, but him. Having an ongoing dialogue 89 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 2: is something I really want to see, Mike, because I 90 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 2: think in the past we've just been very reliant on 91 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: a Prime minister and a president occasionally being able to talk. 92 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 2: And in there, you need to talk. Pick up the 93 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: phone to big senators, you need to pick up the 94 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 2: phone to other secretaries in the cabinet. 95 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: Okay, Indonesia, what did we get out of that? By 96 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: the way, because that got no COVERAGEES and agricultural deal? 97 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: Was that dollars? Is it actual dollars? 98 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean Indonesia's one that we really want to 99 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: work quite hard at and I was due to go 100 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: there earlier in the year and for a number of 101 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 2: reasons domestic issues, it didn't happen. I met with Praboo, 102 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 2: who I got on very well with. But that's a 103 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 2: massive economy. It's the largest economy in East Asia. And 104 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 2: the Australians have always done a good job since Keating 105 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 2: and HAWKM building out their relationship with Indonesia, and we've 106 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 2: been haven't done that, and so we've got to build 107 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 2: the relationship and get the connectivity and their Winston's got 108 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: a good relationship with the team, the leadership there Todd's 109 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 2: building of the trade relationships, and it's a bit like 110 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 2: the Indian experience, like we had to build that relationship 111 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 2: back over a year period before we could then get 112 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 2: in and do the do more conversationship. 113 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: Shane Jones met with the gas users. But gas users 114 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: on Friday? Is there anything coming in? I mean, what's 115 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: the point. We're out of gas. We're running out of 116 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: guess what's the point of the meeting? Yeah? 117 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, well, first thing is we've put in 118 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 2: place of strategic coal reserve to make sure we don't 119 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 2: end up in the disaster that we've had in the past. 120 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 2: So people may not like the coal, but welcome. New 121 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 2: Zealand's now the only country doing the transition from domestic 122 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 2: guest international coal by virtue of the problems of the 123 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 2: previous administration, and we've put the legislation in place to 124 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 2: end the oil and gas band. There are real challenges 125 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 2: about how do you actually get someone here incentivized to 126 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 2: actually explore for and actually get gas out of New Zealand. 127 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 2: That's been the chilling offfect of that decision of any 128 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 2: oil and gas. If you're a big global multinational, you're 129 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 2: not putting hundreds of millions of dollars of assets in there. 130 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 2: So we've had to design that legislation to make sure 131 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 2: they understand that, you know, we're happy to co invest 132 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 2: with them to actually build back that. 133 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: Top two hundred million dollars. Yes, but equally Balance announcers 134 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: last week they're running out of gas in September. They've 135 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: got a contract problem at that point. So is moderately 136 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: important given way I don't know a farming nation. 137 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 2: So there are two big gas supplies, you know, Balance 138 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 2: and also Methanathmics, and both of them have actually been 139 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 2: running down their production over the last four years. 140 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: You can't have companies closing down. 141 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 2: But this is what the point I've been trying to 142 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 2: make is. It's a lovely bumper sticker. It really is 143 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 2: great to say you want to end the oil and 144 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 2: gas bad, but when you don't think through the second 145 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 2: and third order consequences of that, people end up losing 146 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 2: their jobs and good people. We don't want people coming 147 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 2: out of that sector and losing their jobs. So at 148 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 2: what they can do at the moment is the gas 149 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 2: that they have, they've got to ration and reallocate and 150 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 2: use and all that sort of stuff, But that doesn't 151 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 2: get you far off. 152 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: It does not. Jones also mused about specially can nomic zones, 153 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: particularly up in Northland. He did that late last week. 154 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 1: It's not a coalition thing, but is there something in that. 155 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 2: I've looked at specially economic zones because I was quite 156 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 2: a fan, you know, years ago. But the reality is 157 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 2: we're actually quite small and we should be able to say, 158 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: for goodness say what we do in especially economic zone, 159 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 2: we should be able to do across the whole of 160 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 2: New Zealand. So, you know, getting the RMA sorted. I 161 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 2: personally think taking out regional councils, you know, that stuff 162 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 2: that Bishop will introduce by the end of the year, 163 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 2: The stuff that he's doing in the next week or 164 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 2: two around what's called Amendment Bill two will sort of 165 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 2: help get the thing moving a bit quicker. 166 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: Before you went to Queenstown, Hipkins was in Queenstown alluding 167 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: to the fact he may well run on capital gains tax. 168 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: Would you be happy to run a campaign or. 169 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 2: Bring that on? I mean, like, you know, honestly, if 170 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 2: you seriously think a wealth tax, a capital gains tax 171 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 2: or inheritance tax. The thing that I was quite alarmed 172 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 2: about you had Chloe Swarbrook saying she wants to be 173 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 2: finance Minister, and you didn't have Chriss Hipkins defend Barb Edmonds. 174 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 2: He didn't say he didn't rule it, he didn't rule 175 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 2: it out right, and that you know she wants to 176 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 2: add what forty four billion dollars worth of more debt 177 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 2: eighty eight billion dollars worth of taxes. I'm telling you 178 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 2: it's very interesting. I don't know if you've followed what's 179 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 2: happening in the UK some of the changes they've made 180 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 2: with their taxes. I've had CEOs and wealthy people leave 181 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 2: with capital very very quickly, and that would happen here 182 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 2: in New Zealand hard day, two billion pound our wealth 183 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 2: creators and our generators. I'm telling you people don't want 184 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 2: to hear it, but they would take off well. 185 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: To be fair, the Maori Party would provide the balance. 186 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: Then with that three will it would. 187 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 2: Be a wonderful cabinet with Chloe as your Finance minister, 188 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 2: co prime minister's Roori Debbie who else? We got to 189 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 2: the Marama. 190 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: As much as you may laugh, the Curia poll out 191 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: this morning has Labor in front of you explain it. 192 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 2: Well, pretty tough time. I mean I don't go into 193 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 2: poles because every time there is a different pole every 194 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 2: week in this country. People don't want me talking about 195 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 2: myself or poles. I think the big trend is pretty obvious. 196 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 2: People expect us to fix the economics as simple as that. 197 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 2: So fix it, and then in twenty twenty six they'll 198 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 2: make the call the. 199 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: Boot camps eight out of ten re offended. You guys, still, 200 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: so it's a success. How do you defended well? 201 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,559 Speaker 2: I mean the point is, these are the toughest kids 202 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 2: in the country. We've got to do something different because 203 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 2: we were in a pretty bad place the boot camps. 204 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 2: There are elements of it worked well. When the kids 205 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 2: are actually in the academies that went great, we'd probably 206 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 2: want to extend that time to give them more more 207 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 2: that we clearly didn't manage the you know, there's more 208 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 2: work to do and manage them back into the community. 209 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 2: And yes, there was reoffending that took place, But I 210 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 2: just say, look, I mean people say I'll give up 211 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:25,679 Speaker 2: on the boot camps with one is well we should. 212 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 2: We've got to try doing something right. I mean, you 213 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 2: just can't carry. 214 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: On leaving is no you can't. But then the cost 215 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: was the fact that I mean the amount money you're 216 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: pumped into which kid was enormous. 217 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 2: It was I get it, and it was a good 218 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 2: you know. So we've got to take the learnings out 219 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 2: of that pilot and actually sort of you know, get 220 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: I think a longer academy phase and better community support 221 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 2: for these tough kids. They've actually got a choice to make. 222 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 2: All we're trying to do is give them an option 223 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 2: to say, you know, we know where your life's going. 224 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 2: It's a bad trajectory. You've got a chance to turn 225 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 2: it around and do something different. This is that intervention 226 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 2: to do it. But I just say, the thing that's 227 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 2: really encouraging is it actually our youth offending is down 228 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 2: thirteen percent, ram raids are down on my sixty percent, 229 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 2: and so that a general approach that we've had around 230 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 2: consequences as got through to young people and that's a 231 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 2: good thing. 232 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: All right. Appreciate Good to see you, Prime Minister. For 233 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to news 234 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: talks that'd be from six am weekdays, or follow the 235 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 1: podcast on iHeartRadio.