1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:00,800 Speaker 1: Barry sober here. 2 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 2: Hey, Barry, good afternoon. 3 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: Right, we've only got our Rima announcement. Are you underwhelmed? Overwhelmed? 4 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: Feeling good? 5 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 3: No, I'm overwhelmed. Actually I think you know this. Like 6 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 3: I said to you yesterday, I remember when the bill 7 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 3: was introduced initially by Jeffrey Palmer in nineteen eighty nine. 8 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 3: It was a mess really from the start, and it 9 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 3: governed everything in New Zealand, even down to the air 10 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 3: we breathed. And really something had to give and the 11 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 3: red tape was strangling the country when it was trying 12 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 3: to build and do whatever it wanted to do. Chris Bishop, 13 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 3: he's described the changes as the single largest economic reform 14 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 3: and a generation and I think he might be right there, 15 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 3: because many governments have tried to amend the Resource Management 16 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 3: Act and this one basically does away with it all 17 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 3: together and replaces it with what they call a Planning 18 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 3: Act and a Natural Environment Act. But the as we 19 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 3: heard yesterday from the Prime Minister, cutting consent and permit 20 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 3: numbers by forty six percent, which is extraordinary really, RIMA 21 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 3: refour minutes to Chris Bishop. He outlined how things are 22 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 3: about to change when he spoke at the beehive lockup 23 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 3: of journals and analysts this afternoon. 24 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 4: Activities that have small impacts will no longer require a 25 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 4: consent at all, which means we can focus the system 26 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 4: on what matters most and only on what matters the most. 27 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 4: Takes on average around six to seven years to develop 28 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 4: an average city or district plan. We think we can 29 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 4: get the plan making process down to around two years. 30 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 4: Gone other days of every man and his dog getting 31 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 4: a say in what you do with your own property. 32 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 4: In short, we are fundamentally changing most of what has 33 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 4: failed in the RIMA. 34 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: Here here to that absolutely good ridden snout rough start 35 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: to the final session of Haarlem. This is the protest. 36 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,919 Speaker 1: Is someone's texting Barry saying this disruption in the gallery 37 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: at the house today, Why are we so wet? They 38 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: should have been arrested and charged. Brownly needs to toughen 39 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: up his speaker. 40 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's really interesting that that text has 41 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 3: said that, because I was watching everything unfolding and a 42 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 3: fire alarm went off and I thought it was the 43 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 3: alarm at Parliament because I had my headphones on, but 44 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 3: in fact it was a fire alarm here. Yeah, so 45 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 3: I had to leave the building but look, it was 46 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 3: quite extraordinary really, the security guards they dragged pro Palestinian 47 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 3: protesters across some chairs at the back of Parliament. They 48 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 3: were about a dozen of them, but they did kick 49 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 3: up a lot of stink. They threw pamphlets down on 50 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 3: both sides of the House, National and Labor sides. There 51 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 3: was after it, a larger than usual presence of security 52 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,399 Speaker 3: and police in the gallery, not surprisingly. But the thing 53 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 3: that amused me more than anything else was the speaker. 54 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 3: Jerry Brandy sat there and for over two minutes. This 55 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 3: went on for slightly bemused by it all. Just to 56 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 3: show you this is how it played out in Parliament 57 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 3: this afternoon. And have listened to the din. 58 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 2: Conversation friends in the gullery. 59 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 5: That was an impromptu performance, a little bit of poetry 60 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 5: and lots of performative art as well. I think we'll 61 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 5: now progress to questions for or all answers. 62 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: See, I don't like it. 63 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: I don't like it when Jerry does this, he sort 64 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: of tries to make light of things when actually it's 65 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 1: so out of control in there that you need to 66 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: be a bit of a dictator. 67 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 3: Well, see what does that say to other protests? Let's 68 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 3: tune up and do this. Nothing's going to happen to it. 69 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 3: And the thing is, I was watching the MPs sitting 70 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 3: on the floor of the house. Now these people sounded 71 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 3: mad and you never know what they could have in 72 00:03:59,680 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 3: their hand. 73 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 2: And I mean they do. 74 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 3: Get a check by security on their way in, but 75 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 3: who knows. I mean they sounded just out of control, 76 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 3: which they were. 77 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, Now Labour's trying to sow divisions. This is about 78 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: leadership and Bishop and he's what rating two percent. 79 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 3: Well, he writes about the same as Chloe's Waarlbrick, So 80 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 3: it shows you what the chances are. But nevertheless, Luxeon 81 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 3: reminded Hipkins in the house that he was questioning and 82 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 3: did try and cause some division. But he was talking 83 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 3: about house prizes and he reminded house prices rose by 84 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 3: thirty percent a year during Labour's reign. 85 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 6: They are more affordable than they have been under this 86 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,239 Speaker 6: government in two years than they were under his government 87 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 6: in six years. 88 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 7: Is he not calling out Chris Bishop for contradicting him 89 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 7: on falling house prices and not calling out Nikola Willis 90 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 7: for saying that she's with Chris Bishop on falling house 91 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 7: prices because She's worried that Nicola Willis's also to end 92 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 7: up with Chris Bishop when he tries to replace him 93 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 7: as Prime Minister. 94 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,239 Speaker 6: No, look, I just say I think the members should 95 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 6: worry less about the National Party and worry about his 96 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 6: mates and the Greens into party. 97 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 2: Mary. 98 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 6: Don't you think I think that's what you should be 99 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 6: worrying about. 100 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 3: Sun I've never heard him use that expression. 101 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: Do you know who used to use that? 102 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 2: Was Key? 103 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, well yeah, and Winston of course always calls people 104 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 3: sunshine when he's getting really hosed off of. 105 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: Them, Sunny Jim. It's kind of patronizing, isn't it. All right? 106 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: Very good to see you, as always, very soaper with politics. 107 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 7: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 108 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 7: news Talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 109 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 7: the podcast on iHeartRadio.