1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,387 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,907 Speaker 1: from News Talks EDB. 3 00:00:12,867 --> 00:00:15,107 Speaker 2: One twenty seven on News Talks EDB. Great to welcome 4 00:00:15,107 --> 00:00:17,907 Speaker 2: in a World Champion now. Earlier this month, nineteen year 5 00:00:17,907 --> 00:00:22,187 Speaker 2: old Matteas Coots claimed the Moth World Championship at Manly 6 00:00:22,267 --> 00:00:25,627 Speaker 2: Sailing Club in Auckland, dominating the six day event, leading 7 00:00:25,627 --> 00:00:28,747 Speaker 2: from start to finish, holding off a star started lineup 8 00:00:28,787 --> 00:00:31,907 Speaker 2: featuring some of the world's best sailors from various Olympic 9 00:00:31,947 --> 00:00:36,827 Speaker 2: classes and fourteen different nations. Mataeos Coots is the first 10 00:00:36,827 --> 00:00:39,507 Speaker 2: New Zealand salor to claim the world Championship title in 11 00:00:39,587 --> 00:00:43,027 Speaker 2: this class since Peter Berling did it back in twenty fifteen. 12 00:00:43,947 --> 00:00:46,547 Speaker 2: Coach joins us, congratulations. I know you said after the 13 00:00:46,547 --> 00:00:49,107 Speaker 2: regatti you're a bit lost for words, but with a 14 00:00:49,107 --> 00:00:49,827 Speaker 2: few days. 15 00:00:49,627 --> 00:00:50,467 Speaker 3: To think about it and. 16 00:00:52,147 --> 00:00:54,267 Speaker 2: Ruminate on it, how do you reflect on on the 17 00:00:54,347 --> 00:00:55,787 Speaker 2: regatta that made your world champion? 18 00:00:56,027 --> 00:00:58,587 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, for sure, thanks for welcoming out. It was 19 00:00:58,627 --> 00:01:01,867 Speaker 4: pretty cool. I mean, you know, obviously their dream of 20 00:01:01,907 --> 00:01:05,187 Speaker 4: mine didn't really expect to achieve its those soon and 21 00:01:05,267 --> 00:01:10,387 Speaker 4: it's pretty cool. Yeah, it was a fantastic event. Over 22 00:01:10,427 --> 00:01:12,627 Speaker 4: the six days we had, you know, we had grape breeze, 23 00:01:12,747 --> 00:01:14,747 Speaker 4: very windy to start it off, and then sort of 24 00:01:14,747 --> 00:01:16,227 Speaker 4: finished off with a couple of line to days. So 25 00:01:16,267 --> 00:01:17,387 Speaker 4: it was good to have a bit of a mix. 26 00:01:17,467 --> 00:01:21,267 Speaker 2: Yeah, So, explain the Moth class to us. Describe the 27 00:01:21,267 --> 00:01:23,267 Speaker 2: boat that you're sailing in this class. 28 00:01:23,987 --> 00:01:26,827 Speaker 4: So the Moth class is actually unlike a lot of 29 00:01:26,827 --> 00:01:29,707 Speaker 4: the Olympic classes where they are what we call one design, 30 00:01:30,107 --> 00:01:33,467 Speaker 4: which is effectively supposed to be the same equipment across 31 00:01:33,627 --> 00:01:36,987 Speaker 4: across all boats, the Moth class there is various different 32 00:01:37,067 --> 00:01:41,747 Speaker 4: equipment that you can select from different manufacturers, and you're 33 00:01:41,787 --> 00:01:44,107 Speaker 4: pretty much trying to select the equipment that best works, 34 00:01:44,147 --> 00:01:45,467 Speaker 4: works best for you effectively. 35 00:01:45,587 --> 00:01:47,467 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's a failing it's a falling boat. 36 00:01:47,507 --> 00:01:49,707 Speaker 4: It is a foiling boat like these sal Gp boat. 37 00:01:49,707 --> 00:01:53,307 Speaker 4: It's a lot different to them obviously, but yes, they 38 00:01:53,347 --> 00:01:54,227 Speaker 4: are foiling as well. 39 00:01:54,307 --> 00:01:57,907 Speaker 3: Yes, So what does it take to sail them? Well, 40 00:01:59,347 --> 00:01:59,947 Speaker 3: it's tricky. 41 00:01:59,987 --> 00:02:02,827 Speaker 4: I mean I've actually been lucky enough to sail them 42 00:02:02,827 --> 00:02:06,627 Speaker 4: for probably five or six years now, so I got 43 00:02:06,627 --> 00:02:10,867 Speaker 4: a bit of experience in the boat. I mean, yeah, 44 00:02:11,107 --> 00:02:13,867 Speaker 4: unlike usual sailing boats, these boats are faster than the 45 00:02:13,907 --> 00:02:18,227 Speaker 4: wind speed so down when you have to sail at 46 00:02:18,467 --> 00:02:21,387 Speaker 4: sort of angles to the wind to continue the boat 47 00:02:21,427 --> 00:02:24,907 Speaker 4: on the foils, and obviously up on that is the 48 00:02:24,947 --> 00:02:28,907 Speaker 4: same as well. But yeah, they they are very tricky 49 00:02:28,947 --> 00:02:31,307 Speaker 4: technical boats. There's a lot going on with the foils. 50 00:02:31,347 --> 00:02:35,907 Speaker 4: And we have also a wand what we call which 51 00:02:35,907 --> 00:02:38,067 Speaker 4: sticks out the very front of the boat and that 52 00:02:38,147 --> 00:02:42,667 Speaker 4: effectively hits the water and pretty much controls how high 53 00:02:42,747 --> 00:02:44,627 Speaker 4: out of the water you fail the boat on the 54 00:02:45,947 --> 00:02:47,187 Speaker 4: on the on the foils. 55 00:02:47,267 --> 00:02:50,827 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was home conditions obviously for you. How 56 00:02:50,827 --> 00:02:53,947 Speaker 2: helpful was that being used to what you were facing 57 00:02:53,947 --> 00:02:54,707 Speaker 2: at the wheel Champs? 58 00:02:54,867 --> 00:02:57,867 Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. I mean it's a big advantage definitely 59 00:02:58,787 --> 00:03:01,667 Speaker 4: to have home waters. You know, it makes it it 60 00:03:01,707 --> 00:03:03,667 Speaker 4: makes it a little bit easier when you're when you're 61 00:03:03,667 --> 00:03:07,707 Speaker 4: sailing against you know, such such a goods and yeah, 62 00:03:07,707 --> 00:03:10,027 Speaker 4: it was it was definitely helpful for us. 63 00:03:10,107 --> 00:03:12,907 Speaker 2: Yeah, So across the event, as I said at the top, 64 00:03:12,987 --> 00:03:15,067 Speaker 2: you were you were pretty dominant you let from start 65 00:03:15,067 --> 00:03:17,947 Speaker 2: to finish? Was that? I guess it's always the plan, 66 00:03:18,027 --> 00:03:21,427 Speaker 2: but were you pleasantly surprised that that it went so 67 00:03:21,507 --> 00:03:23,267 Speaker 2: well for you right from the start? Yeah? 68 00:03:23,267 --> 00:03:25,707 Speaker 4: I think so. I mean again, I sort of I 69 00:03:25,747 --> 00:03:30,107 Speaker 4: sort of thought that it definitely helped me to have windy, 70 00:03:30,227 --> 00:03:34,107 Speaker 4: windy breeze to start the event, because as as I said, 71 00:03:34,187 --> 00:03:39,027 Speaker 4: in previous days, you know, like a lot of these 72 00:03:39,067 --> 00:03:42,267 Speaker 4: top sailors didn't have as much time in the boats 73 00:03:42,147 --> 00:03:44,267 Speaker 4: as what as what we as what I sort of 74 00:03:44,307 --> 00:03:47,747 Speaker 4: had this past year. So it was definitely an advantage 75 00:03:47,787 --> 00:03:51,027 Speaker 4: for for for me to get that extra time over 76 00:03:51,067 --> 00:03:54,507 Speaker 4: them and then have windy conditions. Because in windy conditions 77 00:03:54,827 --> 00:03:56,987 Speaker 4: what we call boat handling, so how you handle the 78 00:03:56,987 --> 00:04:00,507 Speaker 4: boat and do maneuvers so tacks through the wind and 79 00:04:00,507 --> 00:04:04,147 Speaker 4: then gibes down one can be quite difficult when it's 80 00:04:04,187 --> 00:04:06,267 Speaker 4: windy like that. So having extra time in the boat 81 00:04:06,387 --> 00:04:09,067 Speaker 4: makes it makes it quite a lot, quite a lot 82 00:04:09,067 --> 00:04:10,827 Speaker 4: of an advantage, makes it a bit easier when you 83 00:04:10,867 --> 00:04:12,307 Speaker 4: get that time and hours up. Yeah. 84 00:04:12,347 --> 00:04:16,907 Speaker 2: Absolutely, so nine qualifying races and then eight gold fleet racers, 85 00:04:16,907 --> 00:04:19,587 Speaker 2: all going very well on the qualifying races. But I 86 00:04:19,667 --> 00:04:22,467 Speaker 2: understand a hit of the gold Fleet races, you suffered 87 00:04:22,467 --> 00:04:24,027 Speaker 2: some damage to your boat. 88 00:04:24,067 --> 00:04:25,347 Speaker 3: Can you tell us about that? 89 00:04:25,547 --> 00:04:30,427 Speaker 4: Yeah, So I hit an object in the water when 90 00:04:30,467 --> 00:04:34,787 Speaker 4: I was out practicing before one of the starts, and 91 00:04:35,547 --> 00:04:37,587 Speaker 4: I was out sort of thirty minutes before the first 92 00:04:37,667 --> 00:04:40,427 Speaker 4: race of the of the gold Fleet, and you hit 93 00:04:40,467 --> 00:04:43,147 Speaker 4: the object, managed to break the front floor, so the 94 00:04:43,187 --> 00:04:45,867 Speaker 4: main foil and then the rudder force the one that 95 00:04:45,907 --> 00:04:49,787 Speaker 4: you steal with as well, and also managed to rip 96 00:04:49,827 --> 00:04:53,187 Speaker 4: what's called the gantry which the rudderfoil connects on, to 97 00:04:53,467 --> 00:04:56,307 Speaker 4: rip a big hole straight through that. So yeah, I 98 00:04:56,387 --> 00:05:00,347 Speaker 4: managed to get what did your hat, I actually hit 99 00:05:00,387 --> 00:05:05,667 Speaker 4: a shark in the water. I hit a shark, So yeah, 100 00:05:06,947 --> 00:05:10,547 Speaker 4: not so good. Not so good obviously, But yeah, we 101 00:05:12,067 --> 00:05:14,587 Speaker 4: managed to get the bow back to shore and change 102 00:05:14,587 --> 00:05:16,827 Speaker 4: a couple of stuff, and with the help of the 103 00:05:16,867 --> 00:05:20,747 Speaker 4: help of a couple of my support support members, my 104 00:05:20,827 --> 00:05:22,787 Speaker 4: family members, Yeah, managed to get the boat back on 105 00:05:22,827 --> 00:05:24,307 Speaker 4: the water for race too. 106 00:05:24,387 --> 00:05:28,027 Speaker 2: Yeah that's because that sounds significant, that damage. Did you 107 00:05:28,027 --> 00:05:30,747 Speaker 2: think to yourself when it happened and you were surveying 108 00:05:30,787 --> 00:05:32,187 Speaker 2: it and you're taking it back to sure that that 109 00:05:32,267 --> 00:05:34,147 Speaker 2: might be it, You might be done for the regatta? 110 00:05:34,747 --> 00:05:36,947 Speaker 4: Yes, to be honest, I did exactly. Yeah, I thought 111 00:05:37,027 --> 00:05:40,507 Speaker 4: my regatta was pretty much over. So I was pretty 112 00:05:40,507 --> 00:05:42,827 Speaker 4: worried at that point, and yeah, pretty much only managed 113 00:05:42,827 --> 00:05:45,067 Speaker 4: to just make it out to the second race as well, 114 00:05:46,267 --> 00:05:49,667 Speaker 4: with probably like four minutes before the second race actually started, 115 00:05:49,707 --> 00:05:52,307 Speaker 4: which isn't a lot of time, but yeah, I was 116 00:05:52,347 --> 00:05:53,747 Speaker 4: just fortunate to make it back out. 117 00:05:53,747 --> 00:05:55,067 Speaker 2: So if you hadn't made it for the second race, 118 00:05:55,107 --> 00:05:56,587 Speaker 2: because can you drop one? Is that right? 119 00:05:56,667 --> 00:05:57,307 Speaker 3: Is that how it works? 120 00:05:57,627 --> 00:05:59,467 Speaker 4: So it depends on the number of races that you 121 00:05:59,467 --> 00:06:01,787 Speaker 4: actually complete for the serious. So we managed to end 122 00:06:01,867 --> 00:06:04,187 Speaker 4: up completing seventeen races for the serious, so we ended 123 00:06:04,227 --> 00:06:07,027 Speaker 4: up getting to drop through. So usually in a series, 124 00:06:07,707 --> 00:06:10,507 Speaker 4: after six races you get to drop one, and then 125 00:06:10,547 --> 00:06:14,747 Speaker 4: after eleven races you drop two, and then after like 126 00:06:14,787 --> 00:06:19,067 Speaker 4: fifteen races you'll drop three. Yeah, so definitely not ideal 127 00:06:19,107 --> 00:06:21,467 Speaker 4: to have a to have a missed race, but yeah, yeah, 128 00:06:21,507 --> 00:06:23,827 Speaker 4: it allows you to have a bit of damage or 129 00:06:23,867 --> 00:06:25,747 Speaker 4: something like that and back out. 130 00:06:26,147 --> 00:06:27,427 Speaker 3: Is hitting sharks common? 131 00:06:28,107 --> 00:06:32,387 Speaker 4: No, it's not very common at all. That was it 132 00:06:32,467 --> 00:06:35,907 Speaker 4: was not It's not common at all. Man. 133 00:06:37,387 --> 00:06:39,187 Speaker 3: How much of an influence has your dad been on you? 134 00:06:40,267 --> 00:06:43,107 Speaker 4: I think a lot. I think I I think my 135 00:06:43,547 --> 00:06:46,667 Speaker 4: dad and actually, well my whole family for sure, but 136 00:06:46,747 --> 00:06:48,707 Speaker 4: I always sort of say my dad and actually my 137 00:06:48,747 --> 00:06:51,427 Speaker 4: brother was a big influence for me growing up. 138 00:06:51,467 --> 00:06:51,827 Speaker 2: My brother. 139 00:06:52,987 --> 00:06:56,867 Speaker 4: I've said it before. He actually because Dad was away 140 00:06:56,907 --> 00:06:59,987 Speaker 4: a lot overseas, you know, obviously a big idol and 141 00:07:00,187 --> 00:07:03,467 Speaker 4: you know, but yeah, my brother was there the whole 142 00:07:03,507 --> 00:07:06,587 Speaker 4: time when I was growing up, and yeah, he pretty 143 00:07:06,627 --> 00:07:09,947 Speaker 4: much made me I always stead of say not as 144 00:07:09,987 --> 00:07:12,227 Speaker 4: much of a not as much as a wimp for 145 00:07:12,307 --> 00:07:15,387 Speaker 4: something I would have been so, which is pretty useful. 146 00:07:16,347 --> 00:07:17,987 Speaker 2: That's the job of a big brother does to make 147 00:07:17,987 --> 00:07:19,347 Speaker 2: sure the younger brothers are not WIMPs. 148 00:07:20,107 --> 00:07:21,747 Speaker 3: It's part of the job, part of the job. 149 00:07:22,427 --> 00:07:25,187 Speaker 2: Did you I mean, it seems obvious in your family 150 00:07:25,267 --> 00:07:27,667 Speaker 2: with your dad, Sir Russell Coots, that you would go 151 00:07:27,747 --> 00:07:29,787 Speaker 2: into sailing, did it? But did you ever feel any 152 00:07:29,827 --> 00:07:30,667 Speaker 2: pressure to do so? 153 00:07:32,107 --> 00:07:32,307 Speaker 3: No? 154 00:07:32,387 --> 00:07:35,107 Speaker 4: Not really, not really. I mean, obviously there's there's some 155 00:07:35,627 --> 00:07:37,707 Speaker 4: things that are a little bit different in that situation, 156 00:07:37,867 --> 00:07:39,427 Speaker 4: but no, not so much. 157 00:07:39,867 --> 00:07:41,667 Speaker 2: Do you ever feel any pressure from the surname? 158 00:07:43,227 --> 00:07:46,307 Speaker 4: Nah, a little bit. I mean it just depends on times, 159 00:07:46,387 --> 00:07:50,507 Speaker 4: you know, it does attract a bit more attention, but no, 160 00:07:50,587 --> 00:07:51,507 Speaker 4: not too much, to be honest. 161 00:07:51,547 --> 00:07:53,387 Speaker 2: You're still got to sael well though, no matter what 162 00:07:53,387 --> 00:07:54,707 Speaker 2: your name is, you're still got to get out there 163 00:07:54,747 --> 00:07:59,907 Speaker 2: and sail. So I get I'd see that the next month. 164 00:07:59,907 --> 00:08:03,427 Speaker 2: World Championship comes around pretty quickly. It's in Italy in 165 00:08:03,467 --> 00:08:05,027 Speaker 2: the middle of this year, So are you going to 166 00:08:05,027 --> 00:08:06,027 Speaker 2: be able to defend. 167 00:08:06,107 --> 00:08:09,587 Speaker 4: I'm I'm hoping to Yeah, Italy. It would be great, 168 00:08:09,587 --> 00:08:11,827 Speaker 4: you know because yeah, as you said, such a short 169 00:08:11,867 --> 00:08:15,547 Speaker 4: period because they always change it between the northern Hemisphere 170 00:08:15,547 --> 00:08:17,707 Speaker 4: and the summer Southern Hemisphere each year, so that's why 171 00:08:17,747 --> 00:08:19,867 Speaker 4: you sometimes get it so close together like that, only 172 00:08:19,907 --> 00:08:24,147 Speaker 4: a six month period, And yeah, Italy is going to 173 00:08:24,147 --> 00:08:26,347 Speaker 4: be great. You know, we'll have sort of a round. 174 00:08:26,387 --> 00:08:28,627 Speaker 4: I think there's a cap number of boats of three 175 00:08:28,747 --> 00:08:32,587 Speaker 4: hundred boats. So last World Championships they had there and 176 00:08:32,827 --> 00:08:35,467 Speaker 4: I believe it was twenty twenty one, they had two 177 00:08:35,547 --> 00:08:38,587 Speaker 4: hundred and fifty boats, and I think they're expecting somewhere 178 00:08:38,587 --> 00:08:41,467 Speaker 4: similar to that this coming time. Maybe turned into sixty 179 00:08:41,467 --> 00:08:45,347 Speaker 4: t seventy competitive boats. Well, yeah, competitive boats. But since 180 00:08:45,387 --> 00:08:50,347 Speaker 4: the moth classes is such an evolving changing class, there 181 00:08:50,387 --> 00:08:53,867 Speaker 4: are differences in boats, but the newer boats are generally faster. 182 00:08:54,027 --> 00:08:55,547 Speaker 3: So yeah, incredible. 183 00:08:55,627 --> 00:08:59,147 Speaker 2: And what conditions will you face over there? Will they 184 00:08:59,147 --> 00:09:00,987 Speaker 2: have you been able to get engauge, whether they'll be 185 00:09:01,307 --> 00:09:03,387 Speaker 2: similar to here? I mean, you won't have the familiarity 186 00:09:03,427 --> 00:09:05,427 Speaker 2: with it, but any idea what the conditions will be like? 187 00:09:05,507 --> 00:09:08,027 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I've been lucky to say there a 188 00:09:08,067 --> 00:09:10,107 Speaker 4: couple of times, so I do have a little bit 189 00:09:10,107 --> 00:09:12,947 Speaker 4: of a gauge on what the conditions will be like. Ten. 190 00:09:13,107 --> 00:09:15,947 Speaker 4: You tend to have quite a light afternoon bruise, but 191 00:09:16,027 --> 00:09:18,347 Speaker 4: quite a windy morning bruise. So it depends on whether 192 00:09:18,427 --> 00:09:20,267 Speaker 4: or not they say in the morning or the afternoon. 193 00:09:20,667 --> 00:09:22,067 Speaker 4: Such a cool place to say, though. 194 00:09:22,147 --> 00:09:25,907 Speaker 2: It's amazing, And the forty nine er is your other 195 00:09:26,147 --> 00:09:29,107 Speaker 2: focus over the next little while. Tell us about what 196 00:09:29,187 --> 00:09:30,907 Speaker 2: lies ahead of you in the forty nine er. 197 00:09:31,147 --> 00:09:34,467 Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. At the moment, I'm actually trying to 198 00:09:34,467 --> 00:09:37,947 Speaker 4: find a new partner for the forty niner class because 199 00:09:37,947 --> 00:09:42,387 Speaker 4: it's a two person boat. And but once I do that, 200 00:09:42,467 --> 00:09:45,107 Speaker 4: i'll be I'll be back into training for that, and yeah, 201 00:09:45,147 --> 00:09:48,107 Speaker 4: training towards the twenty twenty eight Olympics for me. Yeah. 202 00:09:48,227 --> 00:09:50,787 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so, that's that's the that's the goal that 203 00:09:50,867 --> 00:09:51,667 Speaker 2: sits there at the moment. 204 00:09:52,067 --> 00:09:53,347 Speaker 4: Oh, yes, for sure. 205 00:09:53,427 --> 00:09:56,427 Speaker 3: Are you are you? Are you ambitious? 206 00:09:56,747 --> 00:10:00,107 Speaker 4: Ambushious? Yeah? Yeah, I'm definitely ambitious, I think, Yeah. 207 00:10:00,187 --> 00:10:01,987 Speaker 3: Yep, have you have you been on one of these 208 00:10:02,027 --> 00:10:02,627 Speaker 3: their fifties. 209 00:10:02,707 --> 00:10:04,747 Speaker 4: I haven't. I haven't been on one of these their fifties. 210 00:10:04,787 --> 00:10:07,347 Speaker 2: No, when you're watching from the shore, you must think, man, 211 00:10:07,387 --> 00:10:08,307 Speaker 2: I'd like to give that a crack. 212 00:10:08,347 --> 00:10:10,227 Speaker 4: Oh for sure, for sure. I think I think any 213 00:10:10,267 --> 00:10:11,907 Speaker 4: of us sailors you know, would love to give it 214 00:10:11,947 --> 00:10:14,587 Speaker 4: a crack. For sure. It's amazing, so cool to have 215 00:10:14,627 --> 00:10:17,907 Speaker 4: it and in our home home city as well. Fantastic, 216 00:10:17,987 --> 00:10:18,307 Speaker 4: isn't it? 217 00:10:18,387 --> 00:10:21,427 Speaker 2: Just it is a miteas congratulations on being a world champion. 218 00:10:21,667 --> 00:10:22,587 Speaker 3: All the best. 219 00:10:22,427 --> 00:10:25,107 Speaker 2: Defending in the middle of the year in Italy and 220 00:10:25,147 --> 00:10:27,827 Speaker 2: for what lies ahead the road to la in twenty 221 00:10:27,827 --> 00:10:29,507 Speaker 2: twenty eight. I hope that works out well where you 222 00:10:29,547 --> 00:10:31,427 Speaker 2: find a partner first of all, and give that a 223 00:10:31,427 --> 00:10:33,387 Speaker 2: decent crack. Thanks for popping in for a chat for sure, 224 00:10:33,467 --> 00:10:34,227 Speaker 2: Thank you very much. 225 00:10:34,667 --> 00:10:37,827 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 226 00:10:37,947 --> 00:10:41,227 Speaker 1: to News Talk set B weekends from midday, or follow 227 00:10:41,267 --> 00:10:42,907 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.