1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: The White Thongy Tribunal has just released its urgent report 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: into the Regulatory Standards Bill. It wants this bill thrown 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 1: out until more Marty consultation is done. It's supposed to 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: be introduced to the House on Monday. David Seymour is 5 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: the author of the bill and with us. Now, Hey, David, hey, 6 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: is this bill the threat that these guys think it is? 7 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 2: No, the White Tongi Tribunal has every right to do 8 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,319 Speaker 2: what it would like to do. That's subject to a 9 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: review by this governance. And I won't say anything more 10 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 2: about that. What I will say is that they've made 11 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 2: two basic claims in their report. One is that the 12 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: Regulatory Standards Bill was not properly consulted with Maui, and 13 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 2: two is that promoting the quality before the law is 14 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 2: somehow bad from New Zealand. On the first one, it's 15 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 2: actually untrue. There were twenty three thousand submissions on the bill, 16 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: one hundred and fourteen of them from ely organizations. So 17 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 2: first of all, there was consultation with Marty. But second 18 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: of all, this legislation in some form has been debated 19 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: for twenty years. The idea that we as a government 20 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: are obliged to be more accountable to some of our 21 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 2: fimisms than others because of their race is anathema to me. 22 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 2: Their second objection is because the regulatory standard SPILL actually 23 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: requires politicians to explain if and why discriminating against people 24 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 2: based on their race and actually be held accountable for that, 25 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 2: so the voters can make up their mind they think 26 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 2: that's a bad thing. I think the rule of law 27 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 2: and equalates before that. The law is a good thing. 28 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 2: And if there's people who are disadvantaged, we can help 29 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 2: them based on need, not race. We don't need to 30 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 2: discriminate by that race. 31 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: What did Nichola Will say to you to make you 32 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: come around to the idea of film subsidies. 33 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: Nothing at all. We believed that some subsidies is something 34 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 2: that we need a solution to that doesn't involve shutting 35 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: down the industry. Now there's no new money that is 36 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 2: continuing what's already been done. If there was a way 37 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 2: to get the other countries around the world to call 38 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: the film industries bluff so that we didn't all have 39 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:14,679 Speaker 2: to subsidize them, that would be great. Nonetheless, the policy continues. 40 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 2: Maybe one day when we have a government that reaches 41 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 2: out to others and shuts this kind of subsidence for 42 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: billionaires down. It will be in a better place. So 43 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 2: our position hasn't changed. We just don't have a government 44 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: that's ready to do the necessary thing to stop subsidies. 45 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: Brilliant, David. It's good to talk to you. Thank you, 46 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: David Seymour, AX Party Leader. 47 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: For more from Hither Duplessy, Allen Drive, listen live to 48 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 2: news Talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 49 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.