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Speaker 2: Incredible to think that Anna and Sonya they didn't know

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Speaker 1: But you know, Pike took so much from you. Did

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Speaker 2: What's the reaction been like And do you feel that

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Speaker 2: There's no happy ending, there's no ending full stop here,

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Speaker 1: Not yet, not yet. And I really hope, and I

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Speaker 2: What a powerful motivator. I know your time is so precious.

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Speaker 2: I've got a couple more quick questions for you, Robin Malcolm.

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Speaker 2: Is there anything about the story that you've learned or

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Speaker 2: So the Premier has been over in the on the

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Speaker 2: on the West Coast and auld we get to see

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Speaker 2: here at the Regent and ash Burton, the old Regent.

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Speaker 2: When was the last time you stopped by the Regent?

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Speaker 1: Well, I was at the Regent not that long ago

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Speaker 2: Do you remember the love seats at the back, the

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Speaker 2: extra wide seats. Oh I was never in though, the

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Speaker 2: ones that the teenage Honeys book out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no, I never would.

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Speaker 2: It's a fable special. What you go to a movie

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Speaker 2: watching snack Robin Malcolm.

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Speaker 1: A Top Top boys, Boysonberry ice cream, chop top and

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Speaker 2: You won't even go if there's no Boysberry chop top.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, the two go together for me, and

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Speaker 1: they have done since Near Dot And if they don't

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Speaker 1: offer that, and they might go, oh yeah, but we've

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Speaker 2: Very specific, it's on the Rider team. It's on the

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Speaker 2: Rider exactly. Robin Malcolm, thank you so much for your

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Speaker 2: time and Pike River can't wait to catch up the

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Speaker 1: Okay, thanks a lot, Luke