1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: Now, wrapping the political week that was, we have Barry Soper, 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: Senior political correspondent. Welcome back Barry. 3 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 2: Again the much more informed I am now who appointed 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 2: Paul Eagle? The council, the council appointed him, and the 5 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 2: mayor council, the Chatham Islands Council. 6 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: So okay, so it's not really a job for the boys, 7 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 1: is it. It's it's that's a legitimate process. 8 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 2: Well, you know he was the MP I guess for 9 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 2: the Chatham Islands. 10 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: But I mean they might have You can see how 11 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: that would happen. You're out on the Chatham Islands. You've 12 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: only got six hundred people. You probably don't get like 13 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: a really great, you know, bunch of candidates for a 14 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: job like that. And then you get this guy. He's 15 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: been a mayor, always run for the mayor, he's been an. 16 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 2: MP's Wellington as well. 17 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, he is a big week from the city. So 18 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: you think, wow, we've scored big time with them. 19 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 2: I think I might apply for the job and not about. 20 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: Hey I heard the accommodation is really nice, Mila Applions. 21 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: Now do you think that it was a bit was 22 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: it overhyped? The treatment of luxem or was it fair? 23 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 2: Well, look, it was this time last week, well an 24 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 2: hour earlier, that Luxon was on your show and said 25 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 2: that he had no intention of thinking about his future 26 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 2: over the weekend and certainly wasn't going to stand aside. 27 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: And you know he faced off his caucus on Tuesday. 28 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: No problems because they all know that it's far too 29 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 2: close to an election to have a change in leader. 30 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 2: And a lot of people will say, well and on 31 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 2: Labor did it in twenty seventeen, Well they did, but 32 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 2: then Jasinda Dern was a different kettle of fish, young, 33 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 2: not unattractive and certainly appealed to the public with the disindomania. 34 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 2: But National really has got no one like that. And 35 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 2: thank goodness because we saw what happened when you went 36 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: on Charisma only and you know, six years later the 37 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: countries and the struck yam. 38 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: But Mary, I mean, the thing is, look, it's been 39 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: described as a storm and a teacup, but I really 40 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: don't think it is. If you've got polling that's trending 41 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: down in the way that it is, they are in 42 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: big trouble, like they're going to lose a lot of MPs. 43 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 2: Of what you'll see is i'd imagine is the same 44 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 2: coalition government after November seventh, but there will be more. 45 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:23,399 Speaker 1: More New Zealanders and yes. 46 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: So the power of National will probably be whittled away 47 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 2: to some extent. And then you have the prospect and 48 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 2: a lot of people have talked about it of Winston 49 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 2: Peters maybe demanding eighteen months as Prime minister, and I 50 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 2: wouldn't put it past them. I mean, it's it'll be 51 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 2: his last election. He'll be eighty one come the election 52 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 2: and would probably quite like a taste of the job, 53 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 2: although he has had that in them. 54 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 1: She's honestly, give the guy a turn, just for the 55 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: sake put him out of give him. 56 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 2: I think he's made enough governance to be able to 57 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 2: know what it takes to be a good primate. 58 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: Hey, I'm interested in whether you think that Chris Hopkins. 59 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: I mean, Chris Hopkins hasn't come out of the COVID 60 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: inquiry terribly, but he also hasn't come out of it 61 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: super well. And auckland Is who are angry with him, 62 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: It just makes us as angry as we were before. 63 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: But is it going to influence our vote or is 64 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: our vote already locked in? 65 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 2: No? I think, particularly here in Auckland. I think, you 66 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 2: know there will be some ill will spilling into the 67 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 2: ballot box come November. 68 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: But it wasn't it already going to happen, regardless of the. 69 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 2: Er had already happened at the last election. But I 70 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: think the fact that this COVID reporters come out and 71 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: it showed probably the most serious thing was that they 72 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 2: didn't pass on information. This is he and Ai Cheveril, 73 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 2: the health Minister, about the dangers of giving a second 74 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 2: COVID JAB to under eighteen year olds. So you know 75 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 2: that's bad because the official advice was that it could 76 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 2: lead to my carditis. But it really hasn't because you know, 77 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 2: so you go and look at the figures. Maybe possibly 78 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 2: twenty people have got and I suppose twenty is certainly 79 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 2: too many, and that sort of advice should have been 80 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 2: handed on, certainly from the pulpit of truth. 81 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: You will never forgive them, for matter how much did 82 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: you love what Brian Roach did with the teacher's Union. 83 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 2: Oh, I think it's an amazing turn of events because 84 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 2: I can't remember that ever being done. I mean, you'd 85 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 2: have to say, if you're thumping the husting's table, you'd 86 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 2: have to say, look, this is undermining the union. This 87 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 2: is union busting if you like, and it is no 88 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: doubt about it. You pay people that are not members 89 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 2: of the union and hold up those who are members 90 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 2: of the union who haven't even had the opportunity to 91 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: look at the offer yet. I assume they have now, 92 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 2: and I would imagine they'll be settling fairly soon because 93 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 2: you imagine the staff rooms at the primary schools at 94 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 2: the moment, you've got non unionized labor, you've got unionized labor. 95 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 2: The non unionized letbut more money in their pockets. Maybe 96 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 2: they should turn on morning tea for the unionized members. 97 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: Barry, thank you very much to re appreciate it. Barry 98 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: Soper wrapping the political week that was. For more from 99 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 1: Hither Duplessy Allen Drive. 100 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 2: Listen live to news Talks. 101 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast 102 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio.