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Speaker 1: Right now. Jason Will's news talks will be political. Edit

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Speaker 1: A Jason, good afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Oh, good afternoon, Ryan.

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Speaker 1: So what is going on here between these two?

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Speaker 2: Well, so listen, there was supposed to be a meeting

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Speaker 2: and we got this out of Ericus Stamford this morning.

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Speaker 1: I've asked David Seymour for a meeting this morning to

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Speaker 1: go through some of the issues on the school lunch program,

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Speaker 1: can make sure that they are being cleared up.

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Speaker 2: So which issue, take your pick. There's quite a few,

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Speaker 2: so obviously the prime ministers are already talked to David

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Speaker 2: Seymour about this. Now, she is the Education Minister, he's

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Speaker 2: the Associate Education Minister, so essentially he has the front

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Speaker 2: up to her. So it's pretty cut and dry. So

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Speaker 2: where was Seymour? He did not show Here's what she

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Speaker 2: had Erica had to say about that.

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Speaker 3: I was.

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Speaker 2: I was in my office just after eleven thirty for

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Speaker 2: the meeting. Mark, you were there and he didn't show

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Speaker 2: us up.

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Speaker 1: As I say, minister's diaries change all of the time.

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Speaker 2: Meeting's shift. But we've rescheduled for tomorrow. So she's very

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Speaker 2: much playing it down, saying that they're going to meet tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: So what does David Seymour have to say.

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Speaker 1: Well, the meetings was organized on the basis that we

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Speaker 1: both had to go to caucus. You can't really control

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Speaker 1: the timing. If it goes over, we couldn't meet.

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Speaker 2: And that's what happened, you know, which could be fair enough.

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Speaker 2: But it was Erica Stanford that was the one this

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Speaker 2: morning actually told us that this was happening. And if

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Speaker 2: these meetings happen all the time, they don't technically tell us.

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Speaker 2: They'll give a blow by blow of every meeting that

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Speaker 2: happens around this place. So she was clearly trying to

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Speaker 2: make a point. And I know you can't really hear

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Speaker 2: it from that clip, but she will be quite frustrated.

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of Gnats are quite frustrated at

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Speaker 2: the fact that this is reflecting quite bad on the government. Now,

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Speaker 2: there's one interesting element to this, and that's the Prime Minister. Well,

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Speaker 2: there's many interesting elements, but the Prime Minister, and I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you what, his tone on this issue has shifted

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Speaker 2: quite a lot since he got back from Vietnam last week.

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Speaker 2: Last week. Listen to him on Hosking this morning.

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Speaker 4: But look, here's the deal. I mean, if you don't

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Speaker 4: like the lunches, actually, just go make a mum might

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Speaker 4: sandwich and put an apple on the bag.

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Speaker 2: Now here's what he said to reporters going into the

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Speaker 2: caucus meeting this morning.

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Speaker 4: A loaf of bread, a jar and marmaid an apple

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Speaker 4: asn't rocket science. Actually appearents should take responsibility for providing

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Speaker 4: your lunches.

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Speaker 1: In the first ince ofce adayad.

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Speaker 2: And here's what he told the House.

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Speaker 4: I do agree with the minister that there is actually

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Speaker 4: some some parental responsibility, some parental responsibility.

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Speaker 2: So you can hear now that he's really moving into

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Speaker 2: it's the parent's responsibility to bring their if they you know, essentially,

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Speaker 2: if the kids don't like the lunches, it's the parent's

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Speaker 2: responsibility to front up with the lunches for the kids

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Speaker 2: at school. So I would expect to hear more of

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Speaker 2: that as these issues continue to be quite prevalent.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they obviously have workshopped this because Nikola Willis was

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Speaker 1: on the show last night saying she didn't say mar mate,

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Speaker 1: she said vegimite. The parents should be getting vegimie out

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Speaker 1: into the kid's lunches and make them yourselves. So it's

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Speaker 1: obviously something they've workshopped, a line that they're using, and

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Speaker 1: perhaps they've had polling on it, which might I.

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Speaker 2: Would be surprised if there were. I mean, this is

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Speaker 2: really really hurting them.

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Speaker 1: Do you think it's hurting them? Do you think it's

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Speaker 1: really hurting them? Or do you think most people are going?

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Speaker 1: For God's sakes, this is a storm and a tea cup.

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Speaker 2: You know, well, I think there could be most. But

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Speaker 2: what it is is it's a distraction. It means that

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Speaker 2: the government isn't able to get the message that they

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Speaker 2: want about other things out there because this continues to

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Speaker 2: plague them. There's only so much space in people's minds

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Speaker 2: for political stories. And when you have a news story

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Speaker 2: like this that involves food, involves the politicians that you

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Speaker 2: know about, it involves somewhat of a I'm not going

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Speaker 2: to say scandal, but it involves somewhat of a shortcoming

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Speaker 2: that tends to be what people can remember. So it

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Speaker 2: does distract from the government's narrative that they want to

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Speaker 2: put out about other things.

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Speaker 1: Now, the Treasuries come out and said today that they've

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Speaker 1: set aside three hundred million dollars for a potential break

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Speaker 1: fee for the fairy deal cancelation, but that doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: that's what we will pay, right, let's just set aside

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Speaker 1: at the stage.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, So it's basically it's a contingent. And what we

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Speaker 2: learned this morning is that, you know, it's been hard

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Speaker 2: to get information out of this. So we had this

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Speaker 2: document dump about all this information about the ferries, including

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Speaker 2: the fact that they'd set aside three hundred million so

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Speaker 2: just as a by the bye. That includes extra infrastructure contracts,

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Speaker 2: completing some near finished items like mechanical depots and picked

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Speaker 2: in and the yet to be finished contract with Hyundai.

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Speaker 2: So it's not just the ships, it's everything that goes

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Speaker 2: around it as well. So the ships are just one

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Speaker 2: part of that component. But what we did learn today

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Speaker 2: is Winston or we did not last week. Winston was

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Speaker 2: meeting with the South Koreans in Hyundai last week, so

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Speaker 2: he was asked about that in the house today. Winston

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Speaker 2: peters by tongue Uta KEDI have a listen to what

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Speaker 2: he said.

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Speaker 3: How confident is he that Hey Andi will put in

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Speaker 3: another contract bid for the new Cox Strait theories when

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Speaker 3: they are currently negotiating out of an existing contract with

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Speaker 3: his government I've.

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Speaker 5: Got some good news for the member the head. See

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Speaker 5: why Park was delighted to meet us with his team.

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Speaker 5: We had a very very amiable and profitable discussion, and

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Speaker 5: we were delighted to learn of their renewed interest in

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Speaker 5: this tendering process.

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Speaker 2: So renewed interest, profitable discussion really sounds like Hyundai a

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Speaker 2: back at the table, which is interesting because it raises questions.

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Speaker 2: You know, do we still have to pay the break

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Speaker 2: fee if we go back to the company that we

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Speaker 2: were negotiating with in the first place.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be the ideal, wouldn't it that we

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Speaker 1: would Winston would be Wiley, Winston would do some kind

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Speaker 1: of deal in which we reduce the break feed. We'd

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Speaker 1: get too smaller ferries, we use the two spots they

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Speaker 1: were originally going to have for the old theories. So

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Speaker 1: we don't waste any time and everyone's happy. But there's

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Speaker 1: a that's a lot of things to a lot of

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Speaker 1: ducks to get in a row, isn't it. Jason? Thank

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Speaker 1: you for that. Jason Wolves, whose News Talks eb's political editor.

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