1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,387 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:12,987 Speaker 1: from Newstalk SEDB with. 3 00:00:13,147 --> 00:00:15,747 Speaker 2: A little bit of Super rugby because the Blues are 4 00:00:15,787 --> 00:00:18,707 Speaker 2: on the board. In Super Rugby twenty twenty five. 5 00:00:18,987 --> 00:00:21,027 Speaker 3: Taken on the ground ten meter Mark bear it up 6 00:00:21,027 --> 00:00:23,427 Speaker 3: from fullback. Here comes a j lamb giving away to 7 00:00:23,467 --> 00:00:26,427 Speaker 3: Mark Teleia. The alarm bells are rigging for the canes 8 00:00:26,427 --> 00:00:27,547 Speaker 3: in and out Mark Tahlia. 9 00:00:27,947 --> 00:00:31,347 Speaker 2: Oh, here he goes. The alarm bells are rigging. 10 00:00:31,467 --> 00:00:37,147 Speaker 3: Mark Tahlia. Are sensational. Dry that gone from seventy meters downfield. 11 00:00:37,227 --> 00:00:40,347 Speaker 3: Barrett started it. They came across the field, the White 12 00:00:40,387 --> 00:00:43,987 Speaker 3: Master Tahlia. He set up and he went in out 13 00:00:44,147 --> 00:00:48,267 Speaker 3: around the parachute dive in the corner. Fantastic dry from 14 00:00:48,307 --> 00:00:50,987 Speaker 3: the all Black winger. They've gotten themselves back in front 15 00:00:51,067 --> 00:00:53,907 Speaker 3: the Blues League. The referee said we've had enough. The 16 00:00:53,947 --> 00:00:56,107 Speaker 3: Blues will take the points here. They have beaten the 17 00:00:56,147 --> 00:00:59,267 Speaker 3: home side by thirty three points to twenty nine. 18 00:00:59,547 --> 00:01:03,347 Speaker 2: Terrifix stuf from Ross Bond and the commentary box last night. Yes, 19 00:01:03,427 --> 00:01:06,627 Speaker 2: the Blues on the board in twenty twenty five after 20 00:01:06,667 --> 00:01:09,467 Speaker 2: two losses to open their season. They have come from 21 00:01:09,547 --> 00:01:12,347 Speaker 2: twenty nine to twenty one down in the second half 22 00:01:12,667 --> 00:01:16,107 Speaker 2: to beat the Hurricanes thirty three twenty nine at Sky 23 00:01:16,227 --> 00:01:19,587 Speaker 2: Stadium in Wellington. Were joined by Blues assistant coach Paul 24 00:01:19,667 --> 00:01:22,227 Speaker 2: Tetor Paul, thanks for taking our call. How important was 25 00:01:22,267 --> 00:01:24,587 Speaker 2: it for you to get on the board last night 26 00:01:24,627 --> 00:01:27,307 Speaker 2: with a win after going zero to two to start 27 00:01:27,347 --> 00:01:27,787 Speaker 2: the season. 28 00:01:29,627 --> 00:01:31,587 Speaker 4: Yeah, big result that we needed that as a group. 29 00:01:32,267 --> 00:01:36,307 Speaker 4: You know, we've been struggling along and not hitting our straps, 30 00:01:36,587 --> 00:01:40,467 Speaker 4: not that we hit our strips fully less down on Wellington, 31 00:01:40,547 --> 00:01:45,507 Speaker 4: but that's definitely a big improvement. And when they will 32 00:01:45,507 --> 00:01:47,547 Speaker 4: look to bull from the next couple of weeks. 33 00:01:47,427 --> 00:01:50,147 Speaker 2: Which areas in particular, did you think you weren't quite 34 00:01:50,467 --> 00:01:53,147 Speaker 2: hitting the straps of early on and maybe even still 35 00:01:53,147 --> 00:01:54,907 Speaker 2: as you say, have some work to do. 36 00:01:54,907 --> 00:01:59,387 Speaker 4: On Yeah, I just it's a clision based game, may 37 00:01:59,467 --> 00:02:00,947 Speaker 4: and we've you know, we've got a lot of guys 38 00:02:01,027 --> 00:02:04,147 Speaker 4: coming back and I shall be a little bit undercooked 39 00:02:04,667 --> 00:02:10,067 Speaker 4: to be fair, but you know we looked like at 40 00:02:10,067 --> 00:02:12,267 Speaker 4: times last night, you know, we looked like the Blues 41 00:02:12,307 --> 00:02:15,227 Speaker 4: of old where we were nice and physical and getting 42 00:02:15,267 --> 00:02:17,747 Speaker 4: up working hard for each other. So you know, he's 43 00:02:17,747 --> 00:02:19,947 Speaker 4: got to keep improving in those a couple of key 44 00:02:20,027 --> 00:02:23,387 Speaker 4: areas and and get back to work on Monday. 45 00:02:23,507 --> 00:02:25,707 Speaker 2: Yeah. Vern kind of spoke after the game last night 46 00:02:25,707 --> 00:02:28,267 Speaker 2: about doing some of the things better that you've been 47 00:02:28,307 --> 00:02:31,707 Speaker 2: working a really hard in training. What other things do 48 00:02:31,747 --> 00:02:33,227 Speaker 2: you think you had better last night, Paul, You talked 49 00:02:33,227 --> 00:02:35,547 Speaker 2: about the collision areas with out other things that that 50 00:02:35,627 --> 00:02:37,987 Speaker 2: you Vern and the others were particularly happy with. 51 00:02:39,267 --> 00:02:41,467 Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought the scrum was really good last night, 52 00:02:42,187 --> 00:02:44,987 Speaker 4: know of the challenge laid down to the group around that, 53 00:02:45,267 --> 00:02:50,107 Speaker 4: so it was good to see that operating well. You know, 54 00:02:50,467 --> 00:02:52,547 Speaker 4: still a line out to bit shaky from me for 55 00:02:52,667 --> 00:02:56,387 Speaker 4: my liking. We need to be better in that space. So, 56 00:02:56,467 --> 00:02:57,907 Speaker 4: you know, just a couple of areas that we need 57 00:02:57,947 --> 00:03:00,427 Speaker 4: to iron out. So we're so we're heading in the 58 00:03:00,547 --> 00:03:01,027 Speaker 4: right direction. 59 00:03:01,427 --> 00:03:03,787 Speaker 2: Late in the game, you're four points ahead, you're down 60 00:03:03,827 --> 00:03:06,147 Speaker 2: to fourteen men, you've got a second five on the 61 00:03:06,147 --> 00:03:08,507 Speaker 2: side of the scrum boat and Barrett's feeding the ball 62 00:03:08,587 --> 00:03:12,467 Speaker 2: and any nervous moments really late on last night. 63 00:03:14,507 --> 00:03:16,387 Speaker 4: It's not the best spot to be, to be fair 64 00:03:16,467 --> 00:03:21,147 Speaker 4: in the coach's box that Yeah, Hey, you know, it's 65 00:03:21,187 --> 00:03:25,387 Speaker 4: just one of those things. Sam went off and you know, 66 00:03:25,387 --> 00:03:29,427 Speaker 4: I mean like he's got a pretty swallen eye, and 67 00:03:29,467 --> 00:03:31,507 Speaker 4: you know, like he's he's said a good knock and 68 00:03:32,907 --> 00:03:36,107 Speaker 4: they aren't all able to go hi A. So yeah, 69 00:03:36,227 --> 00:03:38,707 Speaker 4: that'll come out in the wash, I'm sure, but you 70 00:03:38,747 --> 00:03:40,347 Speaker 4: know it is what it is, and you've got adapt 71 00:03:40,427 --> 00:03:45,707 Speaker 4: and you know we managed to hang on and enjoy 72 00:03:45,747 --> 00:03:46,027 Speaker 4: the win. 73 00:03:46,947 --> 00:03:48,827 Speaker 2: Can you just unpack that a little bit for us, 74 00:03:48,867 --> 00:03:51,347 Speaker 2: because so Sam not got to got a whack to 75 00:03:51,387 --> 00:03:53,667 Speaker 2: the head. As you say, he's got a swollen eye. 76 00:03:54,067 --> 00:03:57,027 Speaker 2: So under HIA rules he can be replaced, and I 77 00:03:57,067 --> 00:04:00,547 Speaker 2: so often let Christy go on as an intended replacement 78 00:04:00,627 --> 00:04:03,547 Speaker 2: for him. But then what the independent doctor then said 79 00:04:03,747 --> 00:04:06,107 Speaker 2: that that's not an hi A? Is that how a 80 00:04:06,107 --> 00:04:06,707 Speaker 2: play out? 81 00:04:08,227 --> 00:04:10,947 Speaker 4: That's what it looked like to me, you know, that's 82 00:04:10,987 --> 00:04:13,987 Speaker 4: all the kuffle was on the sideline around. Is it 83 00:04:13,987 --> 00:04:17,307 Speaker 4: an h i A or are we playing silly buggers 84 00:04:17,307 --> 00:04:22,027 Speaker 4: to get him back on? You know I can and 85 00:04:22,147 --> 00:04:25,307 Speaker 4: at the end of the day, the Mashday doctor made 86 00:04:25,307 --> 00:04:30,347 Speaker 4: the call and we couldn't replace us. We couldn't put 87 00:04:30,387 --> 00:04:32,907 Speaker 4: sim back on for Sam because he thought it was 88 00:04:32,947 --> 00:04:33,547 Speaker 4: an injury. 89 00:04:33,667 --> 00:04:37,267 Speaker 2: So you weren't playing sy You went playing silly Buggers, No, 90 00:04:39,147 --> 00:04:39,987 Speaker 2: Mark Tala that. 91 00:04:41,467 --> 00:04:42,427 Speaker 4: Mark clear what a tray? 92 00:04:42,747 --> 00:04:44,307 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna ask you, I mean, do you 93 00:04:44,387 --> 00:04:46,427 Speaker 2: do you even get surprised anymore when you see him 94 00:04:46,427 --> 00:04:47,227 Speaker 2: do things like that? 95 00:04:48,787 --> 00:04:49,147 Speaker 3: Oh? 96 00:04:49,267 --> 00:04:53,787 Speaker 4: That was that was right up there. I reckon great 97 00:04:53,787 --> 00:04:57,547 Speaker 4: to see him back and square of finishing off those opportunities. 98 00:04:57,667 --> 00:04:59,547 Speaker 4: It was a great you know, we caught that ball 99 00:04:59,587 --> 00:05:01,707 Speaker 4: in the twenty two Brady brought her back and got 100 00:05:01,707 --> 00:05:05,467 Speaker 4: the ball white Caleb and a couple of nice phases 101 00:05:05,507 --> 00:05:07,307 Speaker 4: and nice couple of touch just from a couple of 102 00:05:07,427 --> 00:05:10,747 Speaker 4: young guys, and you know, the world class finish of 103 00:05:10,827 --> 00:05:14,987 Speaker 4: that Markers. We've all seen it before and it was 104 00:05:15,027 --> 00:05:15,787 Speaker 4: a beautiful thing. 105 00:05:16,587 --> 00:05:20,307 Speaker 2: Boden Barrett has moved into into first five in the 106 00:05:20,307 --> 00:05:23,267 Speaker 2: second half scene crucial. Do you think we'll see him 107 00:05:23,307 --> 00:05:25,547 Speaker 2: start at first five at some stage soon? 108 00:05:27,987 --> 00:05:31,227 Speaker 4: And we've got some quality tens stevieps not far away. 109 00:05:31,827 --> 00:05:35,787 Speaker 4: You know, they will get the opportunity, Harry and Stevie 110 00:05:35,827 --> 00:05:40,067 Speaker 4: and Body, they will get opportunity at ten. You know, 111 00:05:40,107 --> 00:05:42,027 Speaker 4: I just worry about the small numbers and make sure 112 00:05:42,027 --> 00:05:44,747 Speaker 4: that we're making sure that we're doing things better each 113 00:05:44,787 --> 00:05:47,107 Speaker 4: week so we can grow this team and be a 114 00:05:47,147 --> 00:05:51,307 Speaker 4: force to be written with in the next few weeks. Well. 115 00:05:51,307 --> 00:05:55,227 Speaker 2: The biggest of the small numbers Hoskins STUTU late yellow card, 116 00:05:55,227 --> 00:05:57,787 Speaker 2: which was upgraded on field to a red. I've had 117 00:05:57,827 --> 00:05:59,587 Speaker 2: a couple of red cards and Super Rugby so far 118 00:05:59,627 --> 00:06:02,507 Speaker 2: this season. They've both ended up with three game bands. 119 00:06:02,787 --> 00:06:05,227 Speaker 2: Do you expect to lose Hoskins for that length of time? 120 00:06:07,587 --> 00:06:10,747 Speaker 4: Yeah, it looks that's the pretty standard procedure they're going with. 121 00:06:10,827 --> 00:06:16,467 Speaker 4: It looks like it. Yeah. I mean I haven't had 122 00:06:16,467 --> 00:06:19,187 Speaker 4: a real good look at it, but it didn't you know. 123 00:06:19,187 --> 00:06:23,067 Speaker 4: I mean they're looking pretty similar, aren't they. So he 124 00:06:23,187 --> 00:06:24,067 Speaker 4: might have a couple of weeks. 125 00:06:24,947 --> 00:06:27,227 Speaker 2: Does the game seem a lot faster to you this year? 126 00:06:29,427 --> 00:06:31,027 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the rest are doing a good job 127 00:06:31,027 --> 00:06:33,667 Speaker 4: in that space. I think it's just they're not allowing 128 00:06:33,707 --> 00:06:36,787 Speaker 4: the injured guy to be seen. You know, they're playing 129 00:06:36,787 --> 00:06:40,627 Speaker 4: on and it's created a lot of fatigue. I know 130 00:06:40,707 --> 00:06:44,067 Speaker 4: the boys that we're having to work hard and these 131 00:06:44,067 --> 00:06:46,787 Speaker 4: opportunity laden games, I reckon there's a lot of points 132 00:06:46,787 --> 00:06:48,427 Speaker 4: are being scored laden games due to this. 133 00:06:50,027 --> 00:06:52,387 Speaker 2: You've had a really tough start to the season, Paul. 134 00:06:52,427 --> 00:06:54,827 Speaker 2: With the Blues. In fact, you're the only New Zealand 135 00:06:54,907 --> 00:06:58,067 Speaker 2: team who's had three New Zealand Derbies to start and 136 00:06:58,107 --> 00:07:00,547 Speaker 2: you've got a short turnaround now before you face the 137 00:07:00,587 --> 00:07:03,187 Speaker 2: Brumbies on Friday night back at Eden Park. How much 138 00:07:03,187 --> 00:07:06,467 Speaker 2: of a physical toll does three straight New zeal On 139 00:07:06,547 --> 00:07:09,827 Speaker 2: Derby's take on on, particularly the Blakes. You look after 140 00:07:09,867 --> 00:07:13,987 Speaker 2: the forwards, may. 141 00:07:14,067 --> 00:07:17,467 Speaker 4: We don't make excuses where where the competition is the 142 00:07:17,547 --> 00:07:21,747 Speaker 4: competition that draws the drawer and that's all. That's the 143 00:07:21,787 --> 00:07:25,147 Speaker 4: cards that we're dealt. So at hand, we've got to 144 00:07:25,187 --> 00:07:27,987 Speaker 4: make sure that we recover well. We're smart at training, 145 00:07:28,587 --> 00:07:31,547 Speaker 4: We're doing enough at training, but you know, we're making 146 00:07:31,547 --> 00:07:34,667 Speaker 4: sure that the boys are fresh going into Friday night 147 00:07:36,387 --> 00:07:41,267 Speaker 4: and really motivated to represent the Blues and making sure 148 00:07:41,307 --> 00:07:43,947 Speaker 4: that we're performing on on the weekends. 149 00:07:44,187 --> 00:07:46,787 Speaker 2: Are they physically tougher games though? The Derbies? 150 00:07:48,307 --> 00:07:51,107 Speaker 4: Oh? The Derbies crazy? You know you look last night 151 00:07:51,187 --> 00:07:55,027 Speaker 4: these I mean these injury wards everywhere from from us 152 00:07:55,067 --> 00:07:57,627 Speaker 4: to the Hurricane's got a massive injury told at the moment, 153 00:07:57,707 --> 00:08:01,187 Speaker 4: and it's just the next guy has got to be 154 00:08:01,227 --> 00:08:07,267 Speaker 4: ready because it's physical and it's demanding, and it's it's 155 00:08:07,347 --> 00:08:07,827 Speaker 4: tough work. 156 00:08:08,507 --> 00:08:09,987 Speaker 2: And I know you've been gone for a while now 157 00:08:10,027 --> 00:08:13,147 Speaker 2: that you represented the Hurricanes with great pride for you know, 158 00:08:13,227 --> 00:08:15,947 Speaker 2: for close to a decade, started the two thousands. Do 159 00:08:15,987 --> 00:08:17,107 Speaker 2: you still like going back there? 160 00:08:19,147 --> 00:08:20,787 Speaker 4: Yeah, I do. You know, I've coached a lot of 161 00:08:20,787 --> 00:08:23,627 Speaker 4: those guys with the Lions when I was down there, 162 00:08:23,707 --> 00:08:26,667 Speaker 4: so you know, there's a mess of respect from from 163 00:08:26,707 --> 00:08:31,267 Speaker 4: both teams, and hey, we're under the illusion that that 164 00:08:31,347 --> 00:08:34,347 Speaker 4: game could have gone either way last night, so there's 165 00:08:34,707 --> 00:08:37,907 Speaker 4: there's a lot of respect there and but definitely loved 166 00:08:37,947 --> 00:08:41,427 Speaker 4: getting down there and and taking home the points. 167 00:08:41,787 --> 00:08:44,147 Speaker 2: Better nights sleep last night than the previous two games. 168 00:08:45,507 --> 00:08:48,387 Speaker 4: Nice to wake up with a win. She's been a 169 00:08:48,467 --> 00:08:50,827 Speaker 4: tough couple of weeks, but it's footy. 170 00:08:50,587 --> 00:08:52,987 Speaker 2: Sometimes, Paul, thanks for chatting to us, mate. You're probably 171 00:08:52,987 --> 00:08:54,987 Speaker 2: gonna go watch the Warriors, so thanks for thanks for 172 00:08:55,027 --> 00:08:59,107 Speaker 2: taking the time for a chat. You too, Paul, Thank 173 00:08:59,147 --> 00:09:02,987 Speaker 2: you mate. Cheers Paul Title. They're Blues assistant coach in 174 00:09:03,067 --> 00:09:04,027 Speaker 2: charge of the forwards. 175 00:09:04,747 --> 00:09:07,947 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 176 00:09:08,027 --> 00:09:11,347 Speaker 1: to news Talks at b weekends from midday, or follow 177 00:09:11,387 --> 00:09:12,987 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.