1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Very sober senior political correspondence with us. Hey Barry, Good afternoon, Heather. 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: So the Eden Park thing is probably a predetermined outcome, 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: isn't it. 4 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 2: Well, it's a foregone conclusion essentially because the new regulations 5 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 2: under the RMA, which is what they've now introduced to 6 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 2: speed up the process. Essentially it removes or modifies precision 7 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 2: provisions in the RMA which negatively impact economic growth and 8 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 2: development or employment. Now that means that if you open 9 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: up Eden Park to everything concerts, I mean they're having 10 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: a big motor show there very shortly, monster trucks there shortly, 11 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 2: yeah park, But that really is what the government wants 12 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 2: to see here. If you listen to the Prime Minister, 13 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 2: the result of that investigation it will be now carried 14 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 2: out by Chris Bishop, is a foregone conclusion. 15 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 3: We formally launched what's very formal language and investstigation that 16 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 3: the report has generated. There is a consultation conversation obviously 17 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 3: with Auckland Council in this case and residents in the public. 18 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 3: But ultimately it gives us powers to say if this 19 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 3: is an event that's in the regional it's going to 20 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 3: advance regional economic growth and opportunity. It's going to advanced 21 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 3: national economic growth and opportunity. Those are things that we've 22 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 3: got to say yes to. As I keep saying, yeah, well. 23 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 2: That's all in the act. And just in case you're 24 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 2: left in any doubt about that here about Eden Park 25 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 2: being open up, have listened to the Tourism Minister Louise Upstein. 26 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 4: One of the big frustrations that I've heard from Eden 27 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 4: Park is not just about concerts, but about festivals, about 28 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 4: other shows, about kind of unusual expos that they could 29 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 4: potentially hold there. If you look at conferences, to have 30 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 4: a restriction of two thousand people is ridiculous when we 31 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 4: have the capacity to host more. We want to maximize 32 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 4: the flexibility that we have at eden Park. So it's 33 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 4: for concerts, it's for sporting events, it's for exposed festival shows, 34 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 4: all sorts of things to ensure that we're bringing more 35 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 4: visitors and more economic activity to Auckland and across the country. 36 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: Why have an investigation? Just go ahead? But then I 37 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 2: guess you've got to say that the public are having 38 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 2: their say. But I'll tell you what if those that 39 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 2: live in and around or not in but around Eden 40 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 2: Park are unhappy about this. They all would have known, 41 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 2: bar none, that they were living near a big stadium 42 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,679 Speaker 2: because it was built in nineteen fourteen. 43 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 5: Be fair to them, Be fair to them. They didn't 44 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 5: buy it with twelve concerts and monster trucks. 45 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 2: Well, you know, you buy next to a stadium. I mean, 46 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 2: you know, unless you brought thirty years ago. You know, honestly, 47 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 2: I think you can complain there will be more noise. 48 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 2: But sorry, it's like buying a house next to a 49 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 2: railway station. You know you've got yourself to blame. 50 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 5: Okay, what did you make of the priests and various 51 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 5: other clergy chaining themselves to the electrocals? 52 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: Wow? Quite incredible. Really, I was always brought up saying 53 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 2: were being told religion and politics don't mix. They certainly 54 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 2: don't mix here. But you know you've Nikola Willis's electorate 55 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 2: office in Wellington. They say they're going to occupy it 56 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 2: all night and the chain to the place at the moment. 57 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: Some have been trespassed in Simeon Brown's office in Auckland, 58 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 2: but Wellington they're there for the night and. 59 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: Why haven't they been trespassed in Nicola Willis's office. 60 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 2: Well, I'm not sure they're outside her office. I see, 61 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 2: so I guess it's a bit more difficult. So they're 62 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 2: going to be sitting out the night in their clerical collus, 63 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 2: no doubt, preaching the good word. 64 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: Wow, okay, listen, what are the concerns around the citizens arrests. 65 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 2: Well, the police have given their view of it, and 66 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 2: it's a view that I in fact raised right at 67 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 2: the time that people that afford a citizens' arrest, that's retailers, 68 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 2: they could put themselves in harm's way. And that was 69 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: the thing that concerned me. If you give the citizen 70 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 2: too much power to withhold somebody, to lock them in 71 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 2: a storage room or something like that, you really are 72 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 2: buying something of a fight. The police are concerned about that, 73 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 2: and I think they've got every reason to be concerned. 74 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 2: But nevertheless it's going ahead and there seems to be 75 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 2: little they can do about it. 76 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 1: Hold on, I'm very cynical about this. 77 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 5: I think the cops are only concerned because the minute 78 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 5: that you start citizens arresting all way over there here's 79 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 5: looking your stuff, they have to come. Well, whereas if 80 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 5: old mate was just nicking leaving it, they wouldn't have 81 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 5: to come. And they're so thin stretched. 82 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, but the thing is, as the police say that 83 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 2: when they go and they know, when they arrest somebody, 84 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 2: they've got the backup information and the evidence to make 85 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 2: a charge stick. If you're a citizen saying holding somebody, 86 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 2: you know, whether the police have to arrive is a 87 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 2: great difficulty for them, then I think, you know it 88 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 2: really is that there are a lot of flaws in 89 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 2: this and we've always had citizens arrest, but not to this. 90 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: Extent or not uncertain hours vary, well. 91 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: Not between nine pm and six am. 92 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: Bear, thank you very much for so for seeing your 93 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: political correspondence. 94 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 2: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 95 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 2: news Talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 96 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.