1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast 2 00:00:10,613 --> 00:00:11,693 Speaker 1: from News Talks A B. 3 00:00:12,973 --> 00:00:16,573 Speaker 2: And Mike Yardley is our travel correspondent to Mike. 4 00:00:17,213 --> 00:00:19,813 Speaker 3: Kilder, Jack, I have a question, what are you most 5 00:00:20,213 --> 00:00:22,893 Speaker 3: excited about, Jack Tane. Would it be tomorrow morning's test 6 00:00:22,973 --> 00:00:24,653 Speaker 3: or Wednesday's presidential debate? 7 00:00:24,853 --> 00:00:30,773 Speaker 2: Oh? I reckon, I reckon. This is my my the 8 00:00:30,813 --> 00:00:34,013 Speaker 2: three things I'm most excited about presidential debate clearly ahead, 9 00:00:34,973 --> 00:00:38,173 Speaker 2: followed followed by the All Blacks Test, but followed very 10 00:00:38,213 --> 00:00:40,373 Speaker 2: closely by a game that isn't getting much attention, the 11 00:00:40,413 --> 00:00:43,013 Speaker 2: All Whites first Mexico tomorrow afternoon. And I'm also very 12 00:00:43,053 --> 00:00:45,773 Speaker 2: excited about where are they playing that? 13 00:00:45,853 --> 00:00:47,493 Speaker 3: Sorry, where are they playing? 14 00:00:47,493 --> 00:00:50,693 Speaker 2: They're playing in California, so yeah, it could be interesting. 15 00:00:50,733 --> 00:00:52,133 Speaker 2: I think they're going to probably be a few more 16 00:00:52,133 --> 00:00:54,933 Speaker 2: Mexican fans than Keiwis. And it's a tough that's a tough. 17 00:00:57,613 --> 00:00:59,573 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's messed us last time, didn't. 18 00:00:59,453 --> 00:01:01,733 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we've yeah, yeah, they hadn't been easy. 19 00:01:01,813 --> 00:01:04,853 Speaker 2: But and then we're playing Team USA after that, so 20 00:01:05,773 --> 00:01:08,733 Speaker 2: tracky time. But it's good to be experience against top 21 00:01:08,813 --> 00:01:12,213 Speaker 2: level opposition. But the Wednesdays, I mean Wednesday's debate is 22 00:01:12,253 --> 00:01:15,173 Speaker 2: going to be it's going to be amazing. Yeah, it's 23 00:01:15,413 --> 00:01:18,093 Speaker 2: I just think there's a you know, like there are 24 00:01:18,293 --> 00:01:22,213 Speaker 2: there are a few moments and presidential campaigns that often 25 00:01:22,253 --> 00:01:27,053 Speaker 2: define heaps of the momentum that lasts thereafter, and usually 26 00:01:27,093 --> 00:01:30,693 Speaker 2: you'd be like a debate has the potential to affect 27 00:01:30,733 --> 00:01:34,253 Speaker 2: the contest. But I just reckon, Yeah, I reckon. There 28 00:01:34,293 --> 00:01:36,533 Speaker 2: is just so much weighing on this one. It's going 29 00:01:36,613 --> 00:01:38,013 Speaker 2: to be it's going to be amazing to watch. 30 00:01:38,733 --> 00:01:44,373 Speaker 3: I actually reckon there is more pressure on Camela Trump. No, definitely, 31 00:01:45,533 --> 00:01:47,293 Speaker 3: there's a danger she could flame out. 32 00:01:47,333 --> 00:01:50,373 Speaker 2: I reckon, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I definitely agree there's a 33 00:01:50,453 --> 00:01:52,973 Speaker 2: danger she could she could claim out. And it's interesting 34 00:01:53,173 --> 00:01:56,253 Speaker 2: that they've decided for the rules and the debate, they're 35 00:01:56,253 --> 00:01:58,093 Speaker 2: going to keep them as the same rules they had 36 00:01:58,133 --> 00:02:01,173 Speaker 2: for Joe Biden's one where he just completely lost the 37 00:02:01,213 --> 00:02:04,053 Speaker 2: hope of ever being president again, in that they're going 38 00:02:04,133 --> 00:02:07,573 Speaker 2: to mute the microphones. And it's because the two sides 39 00:02:07,573 --> 00:02:11,253 Speaker 2: have reversed their position. So Trump's team now want the 40 00:02:11,293 --> 00:02:15,693 Speaker 2: microphones to be used, whereas Carmela's team want them to 41 00:02:15,693 --> 00:02:18,653 Speaker 2: be open, whereas previously it was the other way around, 42 00:02:18,933 --> 00:02:19,413 Speaker 2: way around. 43 00:02:19,573 --> 00:02:20,253 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to be. 44 00:02:20,293 --> 00:02:22,493 Speaker 2: It's going to be amazing, to be fascinating. Now, usually 45 00:02:22,493 --> 00:02:25,613 Speaker 2: I would be saying, we're turning our attention to warmer climbs, 46 00:02:25,773 --> 00:02:28,773 Speaker 2: given we are focusing on the ConA Coast in Hawaii. 47 00:02:28,853 --> 00:02:30,653 Speaker 2: But how hot is it? Trust you? Right now? 48 00:02:31,213 --> 00:02:32,133 Speaker 3: Twenty four degrees? 49 00:02:33,733 --> 00:02:38,373 Speaker 2: That's amazing? Hello, yeaho spring is sprung. My gosh. Okay, 50 00:02:38,453 --> 00:02:41,253 Speaker 2: it is still slightly warmer in Hawaii. But twenty four degrees. 51 00:02:41,293 --> 00:02:44,493 Speaker 2: I mean that's positively t shirt territory, isn't it. 52 00:02:44,533 --> 00:02:46,613 Speaker 3: That's certainly is That's amazing. 53 00:02:46,613 --> 00:02:49,133 Speaker 2: I've always said it, so yeah, Okay. Anyway, so the 54 00:02:49,173 --> 00:02:52,573 Speaker 2: ConA Coast Hawaii is the ConA Coast, all about the beaches. 55 00:02:53,453 --> 00:02:56,453 Speaker 3: Well, it's interesting, jet because last week, of course, we 56 00:02:56,453 --> 00:02:58,893 Speaker 3: talked about the Volcanoes National Park on the Big Island, 57 00:02:59,053 --> 00:03:01,773 Speaker 3: and when you've had your full of that, you probably 58 00:03:01,853 --> 00:03:04,133 Speaker 3: are looking for a bit of coastal time, a bit 59 00:03:04,133 --> 00:03:07,293 Speaker 3: of a sea breeze. But the thing which amazed megas 60 00:03:07,333 --> 00:03:10,453 Speaker 3: the ConA Coast is so much more than just sun 61 00:03:10,533 --> 00:03:14,333 Speaker 3: and sand. It's basically a one hundred kilometer long sweep 62 00:03:14,773 --> 00:03:18,533 Speaker 3: along Hawaii's western coast, and there were just so many 63 00:03:18,733 --> 00:03:23,853 Speaker 3: experiences to check out, so much potent history and amazing attractions. 64 00:03:24,173 --> 00:03:28,213 Speaker 3: The thing which I've noticed about New Zealander's love affair 65 00:03:28,333 --> 00:03:32,493 Speaker 3: with Hawaii a lot of kiwis really like Maui because 66 00:03:33,173 --> 00:03:35,453 Speaker 3: the pace is so much more laid back than say 67 00:03:35,493 --> 00:03:38,293 Speaker 3: the bustle of Owahu. I reckon. The ConA coast is 68 00:03:38,373 --> 00:03:40,773 Speaker 3: right up there with Maui because it's got that same 69 00:03:40,853 --> 00:03:44,493 Speaker 3: sort of easy but interesting, carefree island tempo. 70 00:03:44,733 --> 00:03:47,333 Speaker 2: Yeah nice, So tell us about kylu A Village. 71 00:03:48,013 --> 00:03:50,413 Speaker 3: I'm in love with this place, Jack, kaylu A Village 72 00:03:50,453 --> 00:03:54,693 Speaker 3: I reckon. It's the Hawaiian version of Russell or Akrolla. 73 00:03:54,973 --> 00:03:59,933 Speaker 3: It's just this snug, gorgeous little place wrapped around the 74 00:03:59,933 --> 00:04:04,213 Speaker 3: harbor front, bucket loads of character, lots of historical sites, 75 00:04:04,333 --> 00:04:09,093 Speaker 3: charming old coral churches, a sparkling hospow strip, and the 76 00:04:09,133 --> 00:04:13,373 Speaker 3: most ballist out beach scene. That really is vacation central. 77 00:04:13,413 --> 00:04:15,293 Speaker 3: So if you were looking to base yourself on the 78 00:04:15,293 --> 00:04:19,653 Speaker 3: big island, definitely Kailua or Kailua Kona as it's referred to. 79 00:04:20,013 --> 00:04:22,573 Speaker 3: I recomm it's the place to stay if you're looking 80 00:04:22,573 --> 00:04:25,053 Speaker 3: for somewhere to eat. Definitely make time to go to 81 00:04:25,173 --> 00:04:28,853 Speaker 3: this gorgeous old opening a restaurant called COONa in it's 82 00:04:28,893 --> 00:04:31,573 Speaker 3: been going for decades, and go for the seafood at 83 00:04:31,653 --> 00:04:35,773 Speaker 3: Jumbo from Cocktail and that maceadamia crusted Mahi marhi will 84 00:04:35,773 --> 00:04:36,773 Speaker 3: do very nicely. 85 00:04:37,853 --> 00:04:40,653 Speaker 2: I think macadamia crusted anything does very nice. 86 00:04:41,373 --> 00:04:41,893 Speaker 3: It's true. 87 00:04:42,013 --> 00:04:44,133 Speaker 2: Are there reminders of the Hawaiian royalty? 88 00:04:45,213 --> 00:04:48,493 Speaker 3: Yes, this is such a huge draw. So around the 89 00:04:48,533 --> 00:04:50,573 Speaker 3: Big Island you will see a lot of these old 90 00:04:50,613 --> 00:04:54,813 Speaker 3: stone temples. Some of them were for human sacrificial purposes 91 00:04:56,013 --> 00:04:59,093 Speaker 3: and are called hayu in the Hawaiian dottled around the 92 00:04:59,133 --> 00:05:01,773 Speaker 3: Big Islands, one of the best is just next to 93 00:05:01,853 --> 00:05:04,253 Speaker 3: kai Lua Pear, which is where the Iron Man World 94 00:05:04,293 --> 00:05:09,573 Speaker 3: Champs start in finish every October. But this temple was 95 00:05:09,773 --> 00:05:15,413 Speaker 3: home to the King Kamehamaha, who was the king who 96 00:05:15,493 --> 00:05:18,453 Speaker 3: unified the Hawaiian Islands into one royal kingdom two hundred 97 00:05:18,533 --> 00:05:22,293 Speaker 3: years ago. So he spent his last years living at 98 00:05:22,293 --> 00:05:26,453 Speaker 3: this temple site next to kailu Apia. It's been restored. 99 00:05:26,493 --> 00:05:29,853 Speaker 3: It is just the most stunning landmark. And then from 100 00:05:29,893 --> 00:05:32,933 Speaker 3: there you can take a very short daddle along the 101 00:05:33,013 --> 00:05:37,453 Speaker 3: harbor front to Hui Hihi Palace and this is a 102 00:05:37,493 --> 00:05:41,453 Speaker 3: gorgeous old plantation style home, a couple of hundred years old, 103 00:05:41,573 --> 00:05:45,493 Speaker 3: and that was the summer palace for Hawaiian royalty in 104 00:05:45,533 --> 00:05:48,493 Speaker 3: the late nineteenth century. So it's now a museum and 105 00:05:48,493 --> 00:05:52,773 Speaker 3: it gives you a really good flavor of Hawaii's royal path. Yeah. 106 00:05:52,893 --> 00:05:55,893 Speaker 2: Nice. And this is the place where Captain Cook was killed. 107 00:05:55,773 --> 00:05:59,693 Speaker 3: Right, yes, indeed, so yeah, just north of Kailuakona, about 108 00:05:59,693 --> 00:06:03,373 Speaker 3: half an hour up the road, go to Keela Kekua Bay, 109 00:06:03,493 --> 00:06:07,213 Speaker 3: which is such a dazzling spot. The snork my god, 110 00:06:07,293 --> 00:06:12,453 Speaker 3: the bay's waters they are just brilliant, absolutely ablaze with 111 00:06:12,573 --> 00:06:16,933 Speaker 3: coral tropical fish. Chances are you'll see spinner dolphins in 112 00:06:16,973 --> 00:06:19,973 Speaker 3: that bay too, because they've got a berg population of 113 00:06:20,013 --> 00:06:23,053 Speaker 3: the mayor. But yes, across on one side of the 114 00:06:23,053 --> 00:06:27,213 Speaker 3: bay there's this huge white stone obelisk. And that was 115 00:06:27,253 --> 00:06:31,653 Speaker 3: the spot where Captain Cook was killed. Most unfortunate misunderstanding 116 00:06:31,853 --> 00:06:34,533 Speaker 3: is was always the way in those days. In that 117 00:06:34,653 --> 00:06:37,453 Speaker 3: skirmish with the native Hawaiians. They actually thought when he 118 00:06:37,533 --> 00:06:41,053 Speaker 3: first arrived, they thought he was the god Lonu, the 119 00:06:41,093 --> 00:06:46,133 Speaker 3: god of peace and prosperity. But yeah, just a huge misunderstanding. Anyway, 120 00:06:46,573 --> 00:06:49,493 Speaker 3: alongside the Cook Memorial on the other side of the 121 00:06:49,573 --> 00:06:52,253 Speaker 3: bay another one of those stone temples, and this is 122 00:06:52,293 --> 00:06:56,213 Speaker 3: probably one of the best. It's called Heiku Haiyu and 123 00:06:56,973 --> 00:06:59,573 Speaker 3: you can walk all around it, all through it. It's 124 00:06:59,813 --> 00:07:01,173 Speaker 3: absolutely enthralling. 125 00:07:01,333 --> 00:07:04,533 Speaker 2: Yeah nice, Okay. Is Kona coffee a big earner? 126 00:07:05,693 --> 00:07:08,933 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, Jack. They have got six hundred and 127 00:07:09,013 --> 00:07:13,413 Speaker 3: fifty ConA coffee farms all along the ConA coast, so 128 00:07:13,573 --> 00:07:17,493 Speaker 3: it is a very lucrative industry, very much an organic 129 00:07:19,213 --> 00:07:22,253 Speaker 3: sort of even artists in the industry because it's so 130 00:07:22,533 --> 00:07:26,293 Speaker 3: labor intensive. All of the beans are still picked by hand, 131 00:07:27,893 --> 00:07:31,733 Speaker 3: so that's why it's so expensive in terms of brank 132 00:07:31,813 --> 00:07:34,613 Speaker 3: Kna coffee. But the thing which I've found really interesting 133 00:07:34,853 --> 00:07:38,573 Speaker 3: is the marketing cons particularly in the US. You may 134 00:07:38,613 --> 00:07:42,893 Speaker 3: have noticed in some cafes they'll say ConA Roast or 135 00:07:43,533 --> 00:07:48,093 Speaker 3: ConA Style and it's not ConA coffee at all. So 136 00:07:48,613 --> 00:07:51,333 Speaker 3: you've got to look for one hundred percent ConA coffee 137 00:07:51,693 --> 00:07:53,933 Speaker 3: on the packet all the signed to know you're getting 138 00:07:53,933 --> 00:07:54,493 Speaker 3: the real deal. 139 00:07:54,653 --> 00:07:54,853 Speaker 2: Yeah. 140 00:07:54,973 --> 00:07:55,133 Speaker 3: Right. 141 00:07:55,333 --> 00:07:58,293 Speaker 2: Where are some of the best coffee experiences, Well, I. 142 00:07:58,293 --> 00:08:02,293 Speaker 3: Would go to a little upcountry village called Hallua Loa 143 00:08:02,413 --> 00:08:06,933 Speaker 3: Halllua Lower and the air in this village smells like 144 00:08:06,933 --> 00:08:10,253 Speaker 3: an espresso bar. It is just incredible. They've got this 145 00:08:10,773 --> 00:08:15,293 Speaker 3: huge cluster of coffee farms around Hawlua Loa, and many 146 00:08:15,333 --> 00:08:18,173 Speaker 3: of them offer tours and tastings. I would go to 147 00:08:18,293 --> 00:08:23,573 Speaker 3: Hula Daddy, ConA Joe and Greenwell Farms. Now Greenwell, those guys, 148 00:08:23,613 --> 00:08:26,653 Speaker 3: oh my goodness, they have been producing ConA coffee since 149 00:08:26,693 --> 00:08:29,373 Speaker 3: the eighteen fifties, so they know a thing or two 150 00:08:29,373 --> 00:08:33,733 Speaker 3: about caffeine and beyond coffee jack. Halllua Loa is also 151 00:08:33,893 --> 00:08:36,653 Speaker 3: very antsy, So all along the main street you've got 152 00:08:36,653 --> 00:08:40,293 Speaker 3: these very cutey little white galleries, and the farmer's market 153 00:08:40,493 --> 00:08:43,853 Speaker 3: is a revelation. The avocados and Halllua Loa are as 154 00:08:43,893 --> 00:08:48,573 Speaker 3: big as football's I could do. So there's a lot 155 00:08:48,613 --> 00:08:51,733 Speaker 3: of good stuff growing on those slopes. 156 00:08:52,093 --> 00:08:54,253 Speaker 2: Yeah nice. And is there going to be a price 157 00:08:54,333 --> 00:08:55,893 Speaker 2: war for Ethie as to Hawaii. 158 00:08:56,853 --> 00:08:59,373 Speaker 3: Yes. Very quickly I thought I would mention this Hawaiian 159 00:08:59,413 --> 00:09:02,333 Speaker 3: Airlines has set to resume its direct services from Auckland 160 00:09:02,413 --> 00:09:06,373 Speaker 3: and November, So if you are planning some Alouha time 161 00:09:06,373 --> 00:09:09,853 Speaker 3: over summer, definitely keep an eye on the prices, because 162 00:09:09,893 --> 00:09:12,413 Speaker 3: in New Zealand and Hawaiian they will just go hammer 163 00:09:12,453 --> 00:09:14,253 Speaker 3: and tongs to win you over. 164 00:09:14,413 --> 00:09:16,813 Speaker 2: Ah so good, Hey, thank you very much, Mike. All 165 00:09:16,853 --> 00:09:19,973 Speaker 2: of Mike's tips for touring the Kona Coast will be 166 00:09:20,053 --> 00:09:22,893 Speaker 2: up on the Newstalks EDB website. 167 00:09:23,053 --> 00:09:26,133 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame. Listen live 168 00:09:26,213 --> 00:09:29,533 Speaker 1: to Newstalks EDB from nine am Saturday, or follow the 169 00:09:29,573 --> 00:09:31,013 Speaker 1: podcast on iHeartRadio.