1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: The Rural Report on Hither Duper see Alandro Jaane. 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 2: The COAI Host of the Countries with us Alo Jamie 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 2: good a Hea. Right, how's it going down south with 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 2: the dairy farms. 5 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: Oh, it's a bit of a battle, to be perfectly honest. 6 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 1: It's not only the dairy farmers. The late lambing sheep 7 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:18,479 Speaker 1: farmers are getting a bit of a wee bit of 8 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 1: a pasting now with the out of seasoned snow. You 9 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: don't expect snow to be hanging around at the end 10 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: of October. But yeah, look, dairy farmers are the biggest 11 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: problem because at this time of the year, normally, unless 12 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: they're on a once a day milking regime, cows are 13 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: milk twice a day their creatures of habit. When the 14 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 1: power goes off and they can't be milked, they get 15 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: very uncomfortable. Indeed, we have seen some cow deaths, certainly 16 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: animal welfare issues around the likes of mastitis and that 17 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: because a lot of these cows have gone on to 18 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 1: once a day while they're being milked with the generators. 19 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: There's still like over two hundred dairy farms. In fact, 20 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: it's probably more than that without power, including the one 21 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: I'm down on western Southland, so this morning's numbers are 22 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 1: on the power and power need are doing a great 23 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: job down there, they're probably they've probably alleviated these a 24 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: weeb but six two hundred and fifty customers in Southland, 25 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: two and a half thousand in Otago, mainly southwest Otago 26 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: still without power. So it's a real issue. And I 27 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: know that the Rural Support Trust are now moving their 28 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: concerns from animal welfare to human welfare. A lot of 29 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: these farmers are fatigue. They've been going flat out for 30 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: four or five days now. They may not have had showers, 31 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: proper meals, or even looking after themselves properly. So look, 32 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: it's as I said to you, I think on Thursday 33 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: when this was just a brand new problem, it's a 34 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: problem that's going to take weeks and months to fix 35 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: other than day some of those some of the power 36 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: won't be on on some of those farms until the 37 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: end of the week at earliest. 38 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 2: Listen, Jennie, I didn't get enough time with Chippy to 39 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: ask them absolutely everything. Do you know the farmers excluded 40 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 2: from the capital gains tax? But do you know whether 41 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: that includes things like orchards and horticulturalists and stuff. 42 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: Well, yes, i'd assume so, I mean, but let's be 43 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: honest with this. This is a chippy's cap. I had 44 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: a good debate with Tami and O'Connor on this one today. 45 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: It kind of is a wee bit of taking from 46 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: the rich and giving to the rich. Really when you 47 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: think about it, because people like you and I know 48 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: you're rich, and I'm battling away my hardest as I 49 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: can here, but we don't need a free doctors or 50 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: three free doctor's appointments in a year. So what are 51 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: they actually achieving by this tax. It's a very it's 52 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: a very narrow tax. As you pointed out to one 53 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: of your texts, did it's not going to gather much money. 54 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: This is just an exercise, in my humble opinion, and 55 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: I've been wrong on numerous occasions before. It's dipping your 56 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: toe in the water, flying a kite. This is the 57 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: tip of the icebergy. This is politically palatable. I'll try 58 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 1: and get this one past the goalie, but watch out 59 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: in New Zealand of Chippy to party Maori and the 60 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: Greens get elected come twenty twenty six, it's game on 61 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: for a really good capital gains tax, or maybe even 62 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: if the Greens or the Party Murray get their way, 63 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: or wealth tax. Yep, that'd be good for the economy. 64 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 2: Totally agree with you. It's just the start of something. Hey, 65 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 2: thank you very much. Jammie has always appreciate it. 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