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Speaker 1: Everyone hates gangs unless you're in them. You hate them

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Speaker 1: because they intimidate, they cause misery, they beat their wives,

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Speaker 1: they do all sorts of awful things. But I just

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Speaker 1: worry that the gang patch ban in and of itself,

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Speaker 1: it's not really going to solve the underlying causes of it,

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Speaker 1: is it? And what I worry about is the waste

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Speaker 1: that could go into this, the waste of time, police energy,

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Speaker 1: and resources running after every time Betty sees a gang patch,

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Speaker 1: she rings in one one one, Oh, I've seen the

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Speaker 1: macro mob, which is fine because I know it's intimidating.

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Speaker 1: I'm not just I'm not being disparaging of Betty. However,

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Speaker 1: that is going to tie up some police time which

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Speaker 1: could be better spent solving an actual crime. The other

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Speaker 1: problem here is the design of the insignia the gang patch.

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Speaker 1: So at the moment the police know the designs of

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Speaker 1: each of the patches or mobs patches, what they're apparently

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Speaker 1: doing is going down through and making subtle changes, adding

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Speaker 1: words like mani fenua or changing this logo or that logo.

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Speaker 1: So sure, you will take the patch, you will collect

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Speaker 1: it as evidence, you will take it to court, and

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Speaker 1: the lawyers will argue it's different. I mean, where are

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Speaker 1: we now with our legal bills and our legal aid bills,

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Speaker 1: and what have we actually achieved in doing that? Have

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Speaker 1: we reduced crime or have we increased the cost of

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Speaker 1: administering administering a fashion police policy. You know, that's my

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Speaker 1: only concern. For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge.

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