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Speaker 3: Good morning to you and thank you for choosing the program.

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Speaker 3: Coming up over the next hour. In a moment our

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Speaker 3: Genesis is buying up hundreds of thousands of tons of

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Speaker 3: very shortly. A new Earners Who Learn scheme aims to

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Speaker 3: That story in ten Will Australia cut interest rates today?

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Speaker 3: Donald Demeyo just after the fivethirty news and the big

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Speaker 3: The number is ninety two to ninety two. Small charge applies.

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Speaker 3: up eight a half to.

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Speaker 1: Five the agenda.

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Speaker 3: It is Tuesday, the eighteenth of February. First to Paris,

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Speaker 4: I can't think of a meeting with such high profile

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Speaker 2: Youth Talk said be so.

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Speaker 3: Each day I walk around my suburb, you know, the

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Speaker 3: It's the biggest loss of people for five years. What's

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Speaker 7: We pop it just out behind the power station at Huntley.

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Speaker 7: It's a big mountain of coal.

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Speaker 7: Well, I think the first thing we've got to remember

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Speaker 7: Look, I think there's lots of people with different views

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Speaker 3: So what do they learn? What do they learn, and

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Speaker 2: Andrew Dickens and one roof make your property search simple.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, Welcome to the TUTA. I'm Andrew Dickens. So

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Speaker 3: the Hawgs are on tonight at Spark Arena. I pitied

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Speaker 3: and that's because the Holbergs have always favored medalists and

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Speaker 3: To go right around the country and Callum Procter joins

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Speaker 3: us from Dunedin. Haller Callum morning, Andrew. Are people really

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Speaker 8: Good morning.

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Speaker 3: So one of the country's biggest festivals is spending an

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Speaker 11: Why has that an awful lot on security? Andrew, Look,

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Speaker 11: The event costs about twelve million dollars to stage, and

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Speaker 11: We spoke with festival director Color Mitchell, who says it's

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Speaker 3: Gosh, okay, that's dead. I have broken into Western Springs

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Speaker 11: Well, it's rainy here to start, there is the chance

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Speaker 3: So flights between Wellington and Timaru are disappearing at an

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Speaker 12: You nailed it. This just happens to be something that's

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Speaker 12: The last two times I've tried to fly to Timudu.

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Speaker 12: blames a range of factors like weather, labor shortages, and

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Speaker 3: All right, how's weather.

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Speaker 12: It gets better as the day goes on, sunny spells

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Speaker 13: Welcome greetings, good morning. They want to move qu yes,

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Speaker 13: well why flooding? Flooding the old risk so Auckland councils

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Speaker 13: years or so, the Township Center will have to move.

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Speaker 13: He sees the Council's going to identify some new land

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Speaker 13: that'll probably be to all to a pie and this

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Speaker 13: will be you know, obviously flat land that's not flood prone,

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Speaker 13: so this will be an ongoing issue.

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Speaker 3: Yere, Why did they build it there in the first place.

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Speaker 13: Well, yeah, well that was probably before the flood's happened

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Speaker 13: and everything else.

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Speaker 3: The floods have always happened there, and they knew it.

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Speaker 3: I've seen water diagrams of that area. It's always been

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Speaker 3: a flood plan, and yet they thought they could mitigate it.

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Speaker 3: There's an idea for a one hundred and sixty three

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Speaker 3: dollars one hundred and sixty three million dollar dam to

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Speaker 3: stop the water coming down, but nobody's got that money

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Speaker 3: these days.

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Speaker 13: No, Well that's right. Well that's a big thing, isn't it.

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Speaker 13: It's all about money, no one is it?

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Speaker 3: Moving at Township is a big thing. How's Hawkin's weather?

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Speaker 13: Okay? Well, it's just going to be hot and humid

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Speaker 13: again today, very muggy showers becoming few and far between.

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Speaker 13: This morning, long sunny spells developing. Twenty seven is the high.

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Speaker 3: And I thank you now. Textas are coming in. Luca

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Speaker 3: has texted in about my conversation about the engineers. It's

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Speaker 3: Dr Richard Templer actually wrote a lot of that stuff

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Speaker 3: for Engineering New Zealand. Very very smart man. And as

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Speaker 3: Luke says, design engineers and engineering trades people aren't just

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Speaker 3: born with their set squares pencil or a welding gun

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Speaker 3: in hand, and you don't just magic these people up.

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Speaker 3: Years of training are involved. This is right, Luke, and

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Speaker 3: so we can't let them go. We need to keep

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Speaker 3: hold of them and our tight hands and never let

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Speaker 3: them go. And yet we are right now. As soon

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Speaker 3: as you stop funding infrastructure projects, they go because they

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Speaker 3: want to work. The Prime Ministers on with Mike later today,

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Speaker 3: but next we're off to Australia. Will they cut their

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Speaker 3: interest rates? And we're also going to talk about naming cyclones,

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Speaker 3: which I think is a fascinating science.

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Speaker 2: International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, Peace of mind

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Speaker 2: for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 3: If The time is now thirteen minutes to six, will

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Speaker 3: take you to Paris very shortly as the Ukraine summit

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Speaker 3: gets underway at the Elisa Palace. But right now we're

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Speaker 3: off to Australia and its good morning to donand Mayo,

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Speaker 3: good morning to you. Will the Reserve Bank cut your

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Speaker 3: interest rates today? Oh?

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Speaker 14: Wow?

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Speaker 15: Is Australia about to enter a new economic era? That's

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Speaker 15: the question apparently, so economists are asking ahead of today's

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Speaker 15: Reserve Bank of Australian announcement on interest rates whether this

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Speaker 15: is going to happen? Is it going to cut rates finally? Now,

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Speaker 15: this of course would raise hopes amongst mortgage holders. The

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Speaker 15: official cash rate, how has it been sitting at four

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Speaker 15: point three five percent?

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Speaker 14: That since November twenty twenty.

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Speaker 15: Three, So it's a long while we've been waiting. Now,

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Speaker 15: As you know, Australia's face to high inflation of late

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Speaker 15: rising living costs, and so the banks are predicting. In fact,

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Speaker 15: am Z has come out and said there might even

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Speaker 15: be two cuts this year. CBA's got us even more excited.

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Speaker 14: Four cuts.

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Speaker 15: Meanwhile, we've heard from an economics professor and he suggested, well,

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Speaker 15: this anticipated cycle of rate cuts well, that could be

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Speaker 15: interrupted by other than the Trump administration, because we know

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Speaker 15: that they're still thinking about their tariffs and trade policies,

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Speaker 15: so that could actually influence what happens for the rest

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Speaker 15: of the year.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and there's a little bit of supply chain difficulty

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Speaker 3: with all sorts of stuff. I know, our food price

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Speaker 3: indecks came out on Friday. It's gone up again, so

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Speaker 3: inflation hasn't been killed. It's the same for you guys

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Speaker 3: in Australia. By the way, New Zealand next year decides

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Speaker 3: what it's doing with its interest rates tomorrow. The ODA

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Speaker 3: is tomorrow. Now, how the Prime Minister influenced the name

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Speaker 3: in the cyclones.

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Speaker 14: Well, I hope you find this as fascinating as I did,

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Speaker 14: because look, in all seriousness though, Tropical Cyclone Zelia has

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Speaker 14: just dissipated and that was a powerful Category five cyclone

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Speaker 14: that hit the coast of Western Australia.

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Speaker 15: So there's been floods, there's been high winds, lots of

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Speaker 15: damage there.

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Speaker 9: But in the.

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Speaker 15: Meantime, the Bureau of Aneurology has come out and said, oh,

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Speaker 15: actually the next cyclone, we're going to have to change

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Speaker 15: the name. So what it does to name cyclones is.

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Speaker 15: It just has a list of names in alphabetical order

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Speaker 15: and it alternates by gender. The next name or is

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Speaker 15: due to b Anthony cyclone Anthony. There's never to be

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Speaker 15: a cyclone Anthony because our PM is Anthony Alberzi. So

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Speaker 15: instead they're going to jump to the next name, which

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Speaker 15: happens to be Alfred. The bureau says that when the

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Speaker 15: name matches a prominent person of the time, they have

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Speaker 15: to reorder the next name to avoid confusion.

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Speaker 3: Apparently, yes, I have to say, who wants to be

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Speaker 3: associated with the natural disaster, you know, especially when you're

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Speaker 3: suffering in the polls away Albanezi is. When I came

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Speaker 3: back from overseas, it was the same time that Hurricane

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Speaker 3: Andrew was happening in America, and so people actually got

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Speaker 3: some headlines out from the paper and welcoming at the airport,

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Speaker 3: going Hurricane Andrew has arrived of it you how lovely,

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Speaker 3: hell Donna, thank you for your time today. It is

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Speaker 3: now ten to six. So the European Union has been

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Speaker 3: holding an emergency security summit with European leaders in Paris.

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Speaker 3: The meeting was called to discuss concerns around HUIS officials

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Speaker 3: meeting with Russia to end the war in Ukraine, and

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Speaker 3: that's happening in Saudi. Andrew Ritman is the EU Observer

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Speaker 3: Foreign editor, and he joins me. Now, Hello, Andrew, Hi,

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Speaker 3: nice to meet you.

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Speaker 9: Thanks for inviting me on.

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Speaker 3: It's a pleas a remarkable meeting, A bit of a

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Speaker 3: last minute scramble.

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Speaker 9: Absolutely, yeah. I think Europe has been taken by surprise

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Speaker 9: at the speed with which the Trumpet administration has moved

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Speaker 9: with its Russia plans and as well by some of

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Speaker 9: its interventions at the Munich Security conference over the weekend.

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Speaker 3: So what are they hoping to get out of this?

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Speaker 3: And by the way, can I just say Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: has had telegraphed what he was going to do for

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Speaker 3: a very long time. I'm surprised people were surprised by it.

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Speaker 3: But now they are meeting, and now they're talking. What

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Speaker 3: do you think they are hoping to get out of it?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, to come back to your telegraph, I think. You know,

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Speaker 9: Trump says so much and in the end does something

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Speaker 9: completely different that the fact that he's actually taken action

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Speaker 9: on this with the meeting in Dubai tomorrow is quite surprising.

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Speaker 9: But moreover, it's what has been said around it. When

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Speaker 9: his Defense secretary Pete Hesath came to Brussels last week,

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Speaker 9: he basically gave away the crown jewels. He said Ukraine

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Speaker 9: would have to make all the concessions if it wanted

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Speaker 9: peace with Russia and that Europe wasn't even invited to

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Speaker 9: the table. So with your question, what are they trying

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Speaker 9: to achieve the day in Paris, I think they're trying

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Speaker 9: to show that United that they're relevant, that stakeholders in this,

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Speaker 9: and that they have some answers for what's coming next.

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Speaker 3: Something that happened that has not happened for a very

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Speaker 3: long time in my lifetime is that Sakia Stamer came

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Speaker 3: out and said he is ready and willing to put

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Speaker 3: UK troops on the ground in the Ukraine. This is

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Speaker 3: a very strong stance other leaders prepared to follow.

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Speaker 9: It's a bold move. Yeah, and I think we've heard

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Speaker 9: similar comments today from the Spanish Prime minister. The Dutch

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Speaker 9: didn't rule it out. I think even German chance that

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Speaker 9: Olive Schultz said he might go for it, which is

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Speaker 9: quite a big deal given the German Russian history around

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Speaker 9: World War Two and all the messaging there. Of course,

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Speaker 9: fans had already floated that bubble a long time ago.

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Speaker 9: But I think that this is the thing that's going

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Speaker 9: to come out of the summit today, a pledged by

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Speaker 9: European countries, including mister Starmer, to put together a peacekeeping

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Speaker 9: contingent in Ukraine. Now, whether we'll actually go forward with

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Speaker 9: that is another matter, because a European peacekeeping contingent and

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Speaker 9: without a US security guarantee, experts don't think that's going

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Speaker 9: to scare put in the way. And Pete Hegseth also

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Speaker 9: spelled out in excruciating detail that any peacekeeping force made

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Speaker 9: up of NATO allies on Ukrainian soil won't be covered

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Speaker 9: by Article five. That means that if Russia attacks them

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Speaker 9: next spring, the spring after, the Americans won't come and

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Speaker 9: bail out the Europeans. They happened since World War Two.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, I understand the meeting has just wrapped up,

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Speaker 3: so we'll wait to see what releases come out of it.

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Speaker 3: And Andrew Ritman, I thank you so much for giving us

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Speaker 3: an insight into what is quite a remarkable day in history.

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Speaker 3: You have to say this is news talks here being

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Speaker 3: it is seven minutes to six, get.

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Speaker 2: Ahead of the headlines on early edition Andrew Dickens and

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Speaker 2: one Room, make your Property search simple news talks it'd be.

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Speaker 3: Have you mentioned, of course the sportsman of the year

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Speaker 3: at the Halberg's tonight and I mentioned the name James

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Speaker 3: McDonald and horse racing, and I said, horse racing is

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Speaker 3: very really honored. I've got this text from Tom and

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Speaker 3: he says, having been a winner of every major Group

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Speaker 3: one race in Australia and New Zealand at least once,

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Speaker 3: and distinguished at both Ascot and Hong Kong numerous times,

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Speaker 3: super jockey James McDonald has now been internationally rated number

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Speaker 3: one in the world for the second year in a row.

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Speaker 3: His nomination for New Zealand Sportsman of the Year is

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Speaker 3: long overdue. I agree, and thank you Tom. I didn't

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Speaker 3: know all that. But how do you rank him compared

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Speaker 3: to Hamish Kerr who won the high jump, And how

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Speaker 3: do you rank him versus Chris Wood who's saving Nottingham

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Speaker 3: Forrest and doing extraordinary things at the Premier League. And

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Speaker 3: the fact that Chris Wood has never been nominated until

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Speaker 3: this year, and yet he's been doing this stuff for

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Speaker 3: ten years. I hate to be a judge. Mike Coskin corning.

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Speaker 3: That's the problem with the judges.

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Speaker 16: They're all sports junos.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, Michael Burgess is in the paper today at Sports

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Speaker 3: Journo and he say we need more categories. We need

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Speaker 3: to have a global Achievement of the year sort of thing.

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Speaker 3: And there maybe people like James McDonald of Liam Lawson.

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Speaker 16: I thought, no, so I listened to you before Lulu

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Speaker 16: Son to be not to dismiss her. She win anything

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Speaker 16: and she got lucky in a drawer. So Liam Lawson,

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Speaker 16: as much as I love him and I do, has

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Speaker 16: done nothing other than get a job. That's not a

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Speaker 16: good game. That's not when Scott Dixon did. Scott Dixon

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Speaker 16: did get not only nominated, but he won a couple

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Speaker 16: of years ago, either as man or if not the

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Speaker 16: Supreme War. But in an Olympic year, it's always the

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Speaker 16: same thing. They can't go past a World championship or

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Speaker 16: an Olympic gold medal. And that's the beginning of the

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Speaker 16: middle and the end of it. And so there's no

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Speaker 16: nuance and suffleting to it. Unfortunately, right, here's your question. Quickly,

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Speaker 16: you're Chris Pink, do you boot the Kumar's out or not?

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Speaker 16: You see that would that be the most difficult thing.

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Speaker 3: You would do as a minister. Yes, of course.

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Speaker 16: And the easy thing to do would be no, you

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Speaker 16: can stay because more people would go, oh, you're a

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Speaker 16: nice guy, but that's my rules.

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Speaker 3: That's the rules.

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Speaker 16: Consequences that you're the nice guy. You set a precedent.

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Speaker 16: So what do you do? You see, how do you

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Speaker 16: wagh it up? He can do anything he wants apparent I.

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Speaker 3: Thought being a judge was you go and.

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Speaker 16: That's how it works? Why Chris Lackson after seven thirty?

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Speaker 3: Yes, could you ask who I am? Aout the engineering?

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Speaker 3: Thank you and thank you.

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Speaker 2: to news Talks. It'd be from five am weekdays, or

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Speaker 2: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio