1 00:00:09,093 --> 00:00:12,653 Speaker 1: You're listening to a podcast from News Talks'd be follow 2 00:00:12,773 --> 00:00:16,173 Speaker 1: this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:16,733 --> 00:00:19,613 Speaker 2: Wendy, you were there. You were at the at the 4 00:00:19,613 --> 00:00:23,932 Speaker 2: station for the actual exchange. I understand, yes, I was, yes, wow. 5 00:00:23,893 --> 00:00:25,813 Speaker 3: And I must say it was I was there from 6 00:00:25,813 --> 00:00:29,013 Speaker 3: the beginning and everything was going very peaceful. The reporters 7 00:00:29,013 --> 00:00:33,293 Speaker 3: were there, obviously asking the correct questions when Si Peters 8 00:00:33,333 --> 00:00:36,173 Speaker 3: was asking, you know, answering them, and then the sky 9 00:00:36,373 --> 00:00:40,213 Speaker 3: just came out of nowhere and just muscled himself in 10 00:00:41,132 --> 00:00:45,172 Speaker 3: to where the reporters were and then just instantly started 11 00:00:45,173 --> 00:00:48,132 Speaker 3: attacking them, like nothing to do with you know, the budget, 12 00:00:48,173 --> 00:00:50,572 Speaker 3: with the rail or anything like that. And the thing 13 00:00:50,653 --> 00:00:53,452 Speaker 3: I felt really disappointed was there's lots of school kids 14 00:00:53,573 --> 00:00:55,973 Speaker 3: like standing around because you know, they're like all these cameras, 15 00:00:55,973 --> 00:00:58,813 Speaker 3: there's Winston Peters, you know, I there's some parliament people. 16 00:00:58,853 --> 00:01:01,373 Speaker 3: So the kids, school kids were you know, gathering around, 17 00:01:01,813 --> 00:01:06,333 Speaker 3: and yeah, the sky was just so rude and you know, 18 00:01:06,693 --> 00:01:09,933 Speaker 3: it's lockedious and just didn't stop. Yeah, and I just 19 00:01:09,973 --> 00:01:12,213 Speaker 3: thought that was like, you know, we're in a public 20 00:01:12,213 --> 00:01:15,973 Speaker 3: place and you know, the abuse this guy was giving 21 00:01:16,053 --> 00:01:19,572 Speaker 3: Munstone was just so uncalled for, Like he wasn't there, 22 00:01:20,053 --> 00:01:22,453 Speaker 3: He wasn't there listening to it all from the beginning. 23 00:01:22,572 --> 00:01:24,373 Speaker 3: He just basically came off the train. 24 00:01:24,652 --> 00:01:26,932 Speaker 2: So do you think he do you think he just arrived, Wendy, 25 00:01:26,932 --> 00:01:28,773 Speaker 2: I was sort of speculating on this before. Did he 26 00:01:28,853 --> 00:01:31,333 Speaker 2: come down to see Winston or was he just cruising 27 00:01:31,373 --> 00:01:32,212 Speaker 2: past and got annoyed? 28 00:01:32,333 --> 00:01:32,453 Speaker 1: No? 29 00:01:32,932 --> 00:01:35,333 Speaker 3: I believe he came off the train right and he 30 00:01:35,373 --> 00:01:38,893 Speaker 3: saw he saw him, and then he just just basically 31 00:01:38,973 --> 00:01:41,372 Speaker 3: pushed his way into where the media and stuff were 32 00:01:41,572 --> 00:01:43,012 Speaker 3: and he just started having to go a. 33 00:01:43,173 --> 00:01:45,613 Speaker 2: M So he got so he got so triggered, He 34 00:01:45,693 --> 00:01:47,653 Speaker 2: got so triggered that he couldn't help himself even though 35 00:01:47,653 --> 00:01:50,973 Speaker 2: he is landed on he just got needed to need 36 00:01:51,013 --> 00:01:53,693 Speaker 2: to yell some ageous abuse at at a man. 37 00:01:54,053 --> 00:01:55,773 Speaker 4: Yeah, it must have been a bit of a red 38 00:01:56,093 --> 00:01:58,173 Speaker 4: a red miss situation, Whendy by the sound of it, 39 00:01:58,213 --> 00:02:00,373 Speaker 4: that he just completely lost his mind. Maybe he never 40 00:02:00,413 --> 00:02:01,253 Speaker 4: had it in the first place. 41 00:02:02,333 --> 00:02:04,133 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well I don't know, And it was just like 42 00:02:04,293 --> 00:02:07,213 Speaker 3: it just came from nowhere and Okay, Winston, you know, 43 00:02:07,333 --> 00:02:10,293 Speaker 3: gave back, you know exactly what the guy was giving them. 44 00:02:10,973 --> 00:02:14,253 Speaker 3: But yeah, the guy knew that this was not going 45 00:02:14,293 --> 00:02:17,853 Speaker 3: anywhere and didn't stop, but just carried on and made a. 46 00:02:17,853 --> 00:02:22,333 Speaker 2: Total Did you think do you think Winston won? Do 47 00:02:22,333 --> 00:02:26,012 Speaker 2: you think Winston won the exchange? 48 00:02:26,213 --> 00:02:28,053 Speaker 3: And it was just like, you know, the abuse and stuff. 49 00:02:28,053 --> 00:02:29,773 Speaker 3: It's like I just thought, you know, like couse the 50 00:02:29,853 --> 00:02:31,972 Speaker 3: kids with you, and I just thought, you know, it's 51 00:02:31,972 --> 00:02:35,653 Speaker 3: a public play. And I get that. 52 00:02:36,532 --> 00:02:39,252 Speaker 2: It's interesting because, Wendy, because we've got this text here 53 00:02:39,333 --> 00:02:41,773 Speaker 2: that says, I'm a member of the Free Speech Union. 54 00:02:41,853 --> 00:02:44,373 Speaker 2: I disagree with them on this is shoe. It's abuse, 55 00:02:44,493 --> 00:02:46,852 Speaker 2: nothing less. If say a policeman or a nurse and 56 00:02:47,013 --> 00:02:49,852 Speaker 2: uniform dished out this mindus abuse, what would we think 57 00:02:50,093 --> 00:02:52,933 Speaker 2: do deserves to be fired? So do you think that, 58 00:02:53,413 --> 00:02:56,093 Speaker 2: in terms of a free speech issue, Wendy, that people 59 00:02:56,133 --> 00:03:00,373 Speaker 2: should be allowed to yell things out? You take umbrage 60 00:03:00,373 --> 00:03:03,373 Speaker 2: with the words he was using and the abuse he 61 00:03:03,413 --> 00:03:05,413 Speaker 2: was giving. So if he if he had turned up, 62 00:03:05,413 --> 00:03:09,532 Speaker 2: Wendy and just sort of yelled some political points he 63 00:03:09,653 --> 00:03:12,853 Speaker 2: disagreed with in a reasoned manner, you wouldn't have had 64 00:03:12,853 --> 00:03:13,293 Speaker 2: a problem. 65 00:03:14,613 --> 00:03:17,253 Speaker 3: No, I probably wouldn't have, because yeah, that was you know, 66 00:03:17,373 --> 00:03:20,292 Speaker 3: like that was something that was on topic. And yeah, 67 00:03:20,413 --> 00:03:22,213 Speaker 3: and you know, that could have been something you know, 68 00:03:22,532 --> 00:03:24,653 Speaker 3: he thought about, but it was just the way that 69 00:03:24,693 --> 00:03:27,532 Speaker 3: he just came all of a sudden, he just appeared 70 00:03:27,693 --> 00:03:32,653 Speaker 3: and then just abused, abused Winston totally things that weren't 71 00:03:32,733 --> 00:03:34,893 Speaker 3: even like, you know, I were talking about a bloody 72 00:03:34,893 --> 00:03:39,933 Speaker 3: budget for rail for God's sake. So yeah, it was 73 00:03:40,053 --> 00:03:43,173 Speaker 3: just like really and everybody basically was just the mouth 74 00:03:43,253 --> 00:03:44,373 Speaker 3: dropped and we're looking at. 75 00:03:44,893 --> 00:03:46,213 Speaker 2: Was it awkward? Did you did you? 76 00:03:46,413 --> 00:03:46,613 Speaker 3: Did you? 77 00:03:46,773 --> 00:03:47,773 Speaker 2: Did you feel good? 78 00:03:47,813 --> 00:03:50,253 Speaker 3: I did feel yeah, I did feel awkward. And I 79 00:03:50,293 --> 00:03:52,893 Speaker 3: was standing quite close to the guy too, and I 80 00:03:52,973 --> 00:03:56,653 Speaker 3: was just looking at him going oh my god, like yeah, yeah, 81 00:03:56,893 --> 00:03:59,173 Speaker 3: and I just felt like saying to him, you know, 82 00:03:59,173 --> 00:04:02,053 Speaker 3: you should be ashamed of yourself. You know, everybody thinks 83 00:04:02,053 --> 00:04:05,333 Speaker 3: you're idiot. And Winston was laughing and you know, so 84 00:04:05,533 --> 00:04:07,013 Speaker 3: you know, saying yeah. 85 00:04:06,933 --> 00:04:10,093 Speaker 4: So I thought nothing. I thought the bollocks line back 86 00:04:10,133 --> 00:04:12,373 Speaker 4: to him was pretty good from Winston. Wendy, when I 87 00:04:12,373 --> 00:04:13,853 Speaker 4: think the guy said to him, you're talking a load 88 00:04:13,853 --> 00:04:17,133 Speaker 4: of bollocks and head and said, will you look like bollocks? 89 00:04:17,813 --> 00:04:19,733 Speaker 3: Yeah? Exactly yes, And. 90 00:04:19,813 --> 00:04:21,613 Speaker 2: What do you think about that? So, Wendy, what do 91 00:04:21,613 --> 00:04:24,653 Speaker 2: you think about people saying that Winston Peters is you know, 92 00:04:24,773 --> 00:04:27,933 Speaker 2: he's a member of Parliament, you know, deputy prime minister. 93 00:04:28,493 --> 00:04:31,973 Speaker 2: Should he behave with more decorum than he behaved? 94 00:04:33,973 --> 00:04:37,853 Speaker 3: Oh yes, yeah, yeah, probably. Yeah, but I just think 95 00:04:37,893 --> 00:04:40,413 Speaker 3: it was just so unprovoked. It was just you know, 96 00:04:40,733 --> 00:04:43,013 Speaker 3: it was it was concentrating on reading the budget and 97 00:04:43,053 --> 00:04:46,413 Speaker 3: the reporters were the asking questions about the rail and stuff, 98 00:04:46,573 --> 00:04:49,373 Speaker 3: and the Sky just came out of no k So yeah, 99 00:04:49,453 --> 00:04:51,613 Speaker 3: I think it. I think it's sort of you know, 100 00:04:52,013 --> 00:04:54,973 Speaker 3: and yeah, he was talking to Winston and no one 101 00:04:55,013 --> 00:04:57,493 Speaker 3: else was saying, excuse me, you need to leave. So 102 00:04:57,533 --> 00:04:59,973 Speaker 3: Winston was the only one that actually was addressing him. 103 00:05:00,013 --> 00:05:02,293 Speaker 3: No one there wasn't any security or any thinks that 104 00:05:02,333 --> 00:05:04,173 Speaker 3: you're saying to the sky, you know, like you actually 105 00:05:04,213 --> 00:05:07,773 Speaker 3: need to leave. So yeah, I suppose if Winston didn't 106 00:05:08,573 --> 00:05:11,653 Speaker 3: reply to him, you know, I don't know if anyone 107 00:05:11,693 --> 00:05:12,133 Speaker 3: else Twitter. 108 00:05:12,733 --> 00:05:15,933 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, well thank you so much, thank you, 109 00:05:15,973 --> 00:05:18,413 Speaker 2: thank you so much, need for your for your eyewitness support. 110 00:05:18,453 --> 00:05:21,053 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Very detailed. That was excellent, so good 111 00:05:21,093 --> 00:05:22,093 Speaker 2: to have someone on the spot. 112 00:05:23,053 --> 00:05:26,373 Speaker 3: Yeah, the guy was a complete knob and yeah, yeah, 113 00:05:26,373 --> 00:05:28,733 Speaker 3: I just I just felt because the school kids with you, and. 114 00:05:28,813 --> 00:05:32,413 Speaker 4: It's just that's fair enough because the language, language, the 115 00:05:32,493 --> 00:05:35,453 Speaker 4: language towards the end was fullorn and I think Winston 116 00:05:35,493 --> 00:05:36,333 Speaker 4: even said as much. 117 00:05:36,933 --> 00:05:39,733 Speaker 1: As he was leaving for more from News Talk said, 118 00:05:39,773 --> 00:05:42,973 Speaker 1: b listen live on air or online, and keep our 119 00:05:43,013 --> 00:05:45,733 Speaker 1: shows with you wherever you go with our podcasts on 120 00:05:45,893 --> 00:05:46,733 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio