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Speaker 1: Digging through the spin spence to find the real story.

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Speaker 2: Oring It's Heather Dupers on.

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Speaker 1: Drive with one New Zealand let's get connected news talks.

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Speaker 1: That'd be.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon. Welcome to the show coming up today, Trade

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Speaker 3: Minister Todd McLay on what's gone wrong New South Wales

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Speaker 3: police have nicked seven of our coppers and the police

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Speaker 3: minister wants to gloat chees with us after five and

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Speaker 3: Shorty has been saved. Finally we're going to speak to

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Speaker 3: New Zealand on air who stumped up the cash together?

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Speaker 3: Dup cur So was our government too relaxed about the

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Speaker 3: tariffs then? Because this is a shock today, isn't it

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Speaker 3: to find out that we've just been bumped up to

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Speaker 3: fifteen percent while Australia and dozens and dozens and dozens

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Speaker 3: Now it seems to be directly related, most likely to

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Speaker 3: our balance of trade, and that the US has a

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Speaker 3: So perhaps it was inevitable and unavoidable as long as

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Speaker 3: the balance of trade sat like that. But then on

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Speaker 3: the other hand, Australia did kind of lock that in

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Speaker 3: as well. A they went out of their way they

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Speaker 3: lifted their ban on US beef imports, while we did nothing.

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Speaker 3: Should we have done something similar, because if there's one

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Speaker 3: thing that we know about Donald trumpets that he's a trader.

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Speaker 3: South Korea had their tariff drop from twenty five to

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Speaker 3: fifteen percent by promising to buy one hundred million dollars

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Speaker 3: worth of all ng Sir Kia Starmer sucked up to

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Speaker 3: Trump with a letter from King Charles. Now, we don't

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Speaker 3: actually know we did nothing like that. By the way,

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Speaker 3: we don't actually know what our diplomats were doing because

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Speaker 3: they were fairly guarded about it. But the vibe that

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Speaker 3: we kept getting from ministers and officials every time we

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Speaker 3: We're just waiting to see how this goes. We're on

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Speaker 3: though we are now worse than other people. We export

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Speaker 3: There beef now cops ten percent. Our beef cops fifteen percent.

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Speaker 3: Now we can argue about where the US consumers are

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Speaker 3: really going to switch up there eleven dollars fifty New

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Speaker 3: New Zealand steak if the Aussie steak is only fifty

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Speaker 3: cents cheaper. I mean, what's really the difference between eleven

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Speaker 3: So maybe they will, Which brings me to the question

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Speaker 3: Winston's head below the parapet approach. But maybe what we

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Speaker 3: Albanesi and Starmatok, which is to suck up instead. Given

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Speaker 3: that look where we are and they are. Both their

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Speaker 1: Would Heather do for c Ellen?

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Speaker 3: Nine two nine two is the text number standard text

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Speaker 3: fees apply. Now looks like we are facing a shortage

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Speaker 3: of school board members. To fill every single board in

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Speaker 3: the country, we need ten thousand people. Only two thousand

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Speaker 3: people have applied so far. Meredith Kennett is the School

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Speaker 3: Board Association President Ham Meredith, Hi, what's going wrong with here?

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Speaker 4: Wow?

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Speaker 5: I don't know if you're as much going wrong. I've

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Speaker 5: just had some really great updated numbers that one of

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Speaker 5: our electronic voting people, we actually have four thousand more

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Speaker 5: halfway there, which is great.

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Speaker 3: Hold on. So we thought it was only two thousand,

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Speaker 3: and now it's six thousand. Yeah, good news?

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Speaker 2: Eh?

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Speaker 3: Is that because in the last few hours all of

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Speaker 3: lose four thousand somewhere?

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Speaker 5: No, because we've got a few different providers who are

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Speaker 5: providing the electronic voting kind of systems, which are very

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Speaker 5: new to schools. We just hadn't got the updates that

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Speaker 5: we thought we would, and we've gone our hunting for them,

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Speaker 5: and sure enough, there's some people sitting there.

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Speaker 3: Lost one of the ballot boxes. Okay, well that's a

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Speaker 3: good sign. But we're still four thousand short, right, We've

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Speaker 5: Well, it's a lot better than I felt this morning,

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Speaker 3: What they want to do. Okay, and how long have

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Speaker 5: Your local school, So I know that there are schools

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Speaker 5: You have to check out your own commun meridith.

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Speaker 3: So we need to find four thousand at least by

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Speaker 3: that sounds like it's still a reasonable task, isn't it.

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Speaker 5: I think it is reasonable. But we often do have

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Speaker 5: a bit of a surge in numbers, especially with a weekend.

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Speaker 5: People have a bit of a chance to think about it,

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Speaker 5: but they're blur up together and then then come together.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, no, I mean, our principles are definitely out there,

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Speaker 3: Is this a system that is I mean, is this

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Speaker 3: but they just don't have time or is this normal?

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Speaker 3: I think it's a. I think it's a bit of both.

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Speaker 5: A number of principles have said that it feels a

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Speaker 5: little bit not quite as it normally would be. Yeah, sorry,

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Speaker 5: after that's going to come on through now, are you there?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, sorry, I was just being just directed by.

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Speaker 3: The Sorry, carry on that. Don't worry about that.

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Speaker 5: Okay, good the Yeah, principles are still a little bit

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Speaker 5: worried that it's that it's slow coming through. But then

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Speaker 5: we also have some schools which are well over subscribed,

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Speaker 3: Meredith, is this a sustainable model if we are scratching

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's a good question. And one of

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Speaker 5: people want to combine their boards and have less people,

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Speaker 5: but like it's important that communities continue to get engaged

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Speaker 3: Okay, So what are you suggesting that some schools, like you,

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Speaker 5: I mean it's a possibility my board and my school

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Speaker 5: that could really work. There are not so many of

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Speaker 5: certainly an option if people were really struggling. Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: school Board Association prisident. You know I was on the

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Speaker 3: have you have like a The look that ants just

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Speaker 3: much of a nerd. It was the concession prize because

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Speaker 7: See that you've forgiven and forgotten and you haven't held

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Speaker 3: Well, you've gone like and talk a lot of mac

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Speaker 3: happy for her, but the sound very happy for it.

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Speaker 3: Concession prize was that they thought I didn't know what

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Speaker 3: they were doing. They were like, you're going to be

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Speaker 3: being the student rep. We can't possibly load you up

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Speaker 3: with both of these things. But what they've done was

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Speaker 3: they just they just given me the board of trustees

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Speaker 3: softening of a blow is that? Have you ever sat

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Speaker 3: system than this is as rubbish, isn't it? Really? Quickly?

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Speaker 3: Shortland Street, Shorty Street, We've been covering it on the show.

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Speaker 3: There were real signs Shorty Street was not going to

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Speaker 3: this is they've basically ends it on air. Has stepped

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Speaker 3: The boss there, Cam Harland, will be with us in

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Speaker 3: Heather, I think you're looking at the tariff situational wrong.

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Speaker 3: Australian beef farmers are not happy with the beef imports

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Speaker 3: coming in there when you can't prove the quality or

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Speaker 3: where it's from. Think our fifteen percent has more to

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Speaker 3: fifteen percent all of the above. Anyway, I'll come back

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Speaker 3: to that. It raises a fair point, but it's wrong.

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Speaker 3: Eighteen past four Jason Pine Weekend Sport hosters with US Pioneer. Hello, Heather, Right,

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Speaker 3: the Warriors. I'm ready for this game? Is this like

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Speaker 3: a is this just a stock standard game? Or is

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Speaker 7: In this game?

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Speaker 8: Now?

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Speaker 7: The season defining?

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Speaker 9: I reckon?

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Speaker 10: You know, well, I just think you think about the

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Speaker 10: scenario if they were to lose to the Dolphins tonight

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Speaker 10: and the chasing pack that will soon swallow them up.

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Speaker 10: In terms of the top four, the Warriors are currently fourth. Yeah,

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Speaker 10: they've got a three point lead over the Panthers and

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Speaker 10: particularly the Panthers. The Warriors have the Bulldogs next week,

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Speaker 10: If they were to win tonight, I just get the

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Speaker 10: feeling it might be the springboard they need into the

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Speaker 10: back end of the season. They've got some players coming

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Speaker 10: back next week. And then a couple of weeks after that.

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Speaker 3: Todd McLay is going to be with us after five

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Speaker 11: Alex Waters today have whether the increase of ten percent

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Speaker 3: Us, as I say, with us after five right now,

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Speaker 2: Yes, you want to know who's back.

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Speaker 3: You've missed him. It's been seven years. Jamie Lee Ross

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Speaker 3: running for Auckland's Howick local board in the forthcoming local

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Speaker 12: It's a shame in this industry that, you know, sixteen

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Speaker 3: Did a lot of good work. And what went wrong.

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Speaker 12: I had a war with the leader of my political

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Speaker 3: That would be war that he started himself. I just

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Speaker 12: I run a professional business where forty people earn and

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Speaker 13: Do you know what it is?

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Speaker 3: It's an escort agency. It's called Sapphire Blue and he

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Speaker 12: I started the business. It's growing to the point where

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Speaker 13: Do good work.

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Speaker 3: Nobody's going to buy that because you get paid fifty

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Speaker 3: that goes. Heither. Standing for your local school board is

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Speaker 3: If you don't like what's going on at your kiddy

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Speaker 1: News is next, recamping the day's big news and making

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Speaker 1: tomorrow's headlines. It's Heather duplicy Ellen drive with one New Zealand.

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Speaker 7: Here is coming.

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Speaker 3: Please, don't got tensions of the standing by out of

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Speaker 3: time on. Don't even get him started on Trump's tariffs

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Speaker 3: New South Wales has just had a graduation ceremony for

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Speaker 1: It's the world wires on news talks. They'd be drive.

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Speaker 3: So we are not the only ones who are not

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Speaker 14: Reduce the over relias, make ourselves stronger and much more competitive,

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Speaker 15: We believe in free and fair trade and we will

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately, for Trump, tariff's an't the only thing the media

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Speaker 16: Jackary Epstein saw people from Mara a Lago at the time.

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Speaker 4: Did you know why he was taking those young women, including.

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Speaker 9: One of the worst.

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Speaker 3: Finally, this is very very cool. The world's oldest baby

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Speaker 3: And then to punish him, they called him Thatius. Dan Mitchinson,

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Speaker 3: US correspondent with US. Now, Hi, I love how you guys.

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Speaker 3: You guys definitely go there's a thing with you people

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Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, I think they do. Every once in a

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Speaker 3: But you know some people like it, Yeah, and it'll

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Speaker 3: We owe it to you today because of what you've

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Speaker 3: done to us. So how's Trump feeling about these tariffs?

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Speaker 16: Well, I think he's kind of happy. I mean, Australia,

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Speaker 16: against what some I'm sure a lot of people in

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Speaker 3: Is this playing out the way that he wants?

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean that's hard to tell. I wish I

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Speaker 3: This to you, right, A lot of people are judging

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Speaker 3: something like living deals or something like that, and that's

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Speaker 3: being held up as an example of the fact that

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Speaker 3: this is not successful, when in fact, I see it

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Speaker 3: the other way. He doesn't want to strike deals. He

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Speaker 3: wants tariffs. So having eleven deals is no measure of

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Speaker 3: the fact that this is not successful.

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Speaker 16: For him, right, because it's eleven deals that the previous

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Speaker 16: administration didn't have before. And like we've talked about in

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Speaker 16: the past, you know what Donald Trump is sort of

447
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Speaker 16: a master of is he'll throw a thousand things out there,

448
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Speaker 16: but he'll focus in on two or three and that's

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Speaker 16: kind of what gets the time the media, and then

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Speaker 16: that proves to be successful.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's not even because a deal is not

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Speaker 3: a measure of success for him, right. You and I

453
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Speaker 3: think a deal is a measure of success because traditionally

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Speaker 3: it would be, but for him, actually just having the

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Speaker 3: tariffs and the money going into your reserves, that's the measure.

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Speaker 1: Of success, right.

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Speaker 16: And that's that's what he's going to be talking about

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Speaker 16: as he makes the rounds, you know, tomorrow and into

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Speaker 16: the weekend shows too. Is going to say this is

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Speaker 16: money that the US deserves and should be getting and

461
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Speaker 16: we are getting it now from these countries, and he'll

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Speaker 16: continue to go after the other ones that haven't made

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Speaker 16: a deal.

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Speaker 3: Now, listen, after the grief that he gave Jerome Pale

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Speaker 3: the other day for the renovations at the Feed Reserve,

466
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Speaker 3: how can he justify two hundred million dollars for a.

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Speaker 16: New ballroom because he says it's something that should have

468
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Speaker 16: happened a long time ago. This is going to be

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Speaker 16: ninety thousand square feet and he says that to tell

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Speaker 16: you the truth, that we just don't have enough room

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Speaker 16: we you know, whoever's in the White House to host

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Speaker 16: these big events. So he wants to build something that

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Speaker 16: can do that. And this is going to be the

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Speaker 16: first major change to the mansion since gosh, I think

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Speaker 16: the late forties with the Truman Malcony. It's going to

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Speaker 16: cost two hundred million, and he says, or at least

477
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Speaker 16: the White House is saying that this will be paid

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Speaker 16: for by the President and by donors, which I find

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Speaker 16: really interesting. That's an awful lot of money. And Donald Trump,

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Speaker 16: if there's one thing he is good at, is he

481
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Speaker 16: doesn't like to spend his own money. He likes to

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Speaker 16: spend other people's money, so I think that's where a

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Speaker 16: lot of this is going to come from.

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Speaker 17: I see.

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Speaker 3: Okay, now are you guys up in arms about this

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Speaker 3: AI model campaign?

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Speaker 16: Well, you know, I mean, basically, it's with Vogue right now,

488
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Speaker 16: and you've got a lot of this woman who is attractive,

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Speaker 16: and she's got wavy hair, it's blonde, perfect teeth like

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Speaker 16: of course most of us have over here, and you know,

491
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Speaker 16: she's really put together, so you think, okay, this is

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Speaker 16: another model. There are a dime a dozen in these magazines,

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Speaker 16: and then you look at the small print on the

494
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Speaker 16: page and they say this was created using artificial intelligence.

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Speaker 16: So boom, here comes the outrage. You've got the real

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Speaker 16: life model saying AI is taking away our jobs and

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Speaker 16: our careers. And then you've got social media trolls who

498
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Speaker 16: are saying, now women have to compete to just perfect

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Speaker 16: looking models, but now with AI models who.

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Speaker 4: Aren't even real. So it's a it's another unrealistic expectation

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Speaker 4: of the whole beauty thing.

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Speaker 3: What did you not think that she actually looked like

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Speaker 3: that Australian bird who was in Barbie? Do you know

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Speaker 3: who I'm talking about?

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Speaker 4: I didn't see Margot Robbie, Margo Robbie. Oh, Mabie.

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Speaker 3: She looks at Margo Robbie, doesn't she So she actually

507
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Speaker 3: doesn't look all Americans. She looks all Australian.

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Speaker 16: I think she looks a little more attractive, to tell

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Speaker 16: you the truth, than Margot Robbie.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll just leave it at.

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Speaker 3: That, because I think both of us just realize that

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Speaker 3: right now, who are we to talk? It's Margot Robbie.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, that's that's right.

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Speaker 3: Hey, thank you very much. Dan appreciated it. Look after yourself.

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Speaker 3: That's Dan Mitchinson, US correspondent here. The GST that we

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Speaker 3: apply to imported US goods is a fifteen percent tariff,

517
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Speaker 3: so it's quid pro quo is this? I mean, I'm

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Speaker 3: seeing these texts come in that go there is an

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Speaker 3: Australia only got ten percent just because they're VAT is

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Speaker 3: only ten percent, and now GSTS fifteen percent, so we

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Speaker 3: got it. That doesn't make any I mean, I've to

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Speaker 3: be fair, it's Donald Trump. Not a lot needs to

523
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Speaker 3: make sense, But that doesn't make any sense. If it

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Speaker 3: was that we were slapping GST on products from overseas

525
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Speaker 3: and not our own, then fine, then that is a tarff.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you could argue that that's a tariff in

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Speaker 3: some way like looks like one, right, it kind of

528
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Speaker 3: works like one, But that's not what's happening. We're putting

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Speaker 3: fifteen percent on everything. We're putting fifteen percent on our

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Speaker 3: own stuff. So it's not really the same though as it.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, no, maybe that's how his brain works. I

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Speaker 3: think this is sad.

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Speaker 17: Now.

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Speaker 3: I was telling you the other day about the pharmacy

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Speaker 3: and the pharmacist having dispensed the adult dose of phosphate

536
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Speaker 3: to the premature baby, and then the premature baby died.

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Speaker 3: That pharmacist, it turns out, was an intern by the

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Speaker 3: looks of things, because an intern has just been suspended

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Speaker 3: by the Pharmacy Council and is now not entitled to practice.

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Speaker 3: So once again I will say this to you, whatever

541
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Speaker 3: medication you get, just double check it yourself. It'll take

542
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Speaker 3: you a minute and it'll be worth it. You just

543
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Speaker 3: want to know for sure that everything is right. Seventeen

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Speaker 3: away from.

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Speaker 1: Five politics with centrics, credit, check your customers and get

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Speaker 1: payments certainty.

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Speaker 3: By the way, Winston Peters is not talking about the

548
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Speaker 3: tariffs at all. He's referred all questions to Todd McLay.

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Speaker 3: Todd McLay, and if Tod McLay doesn't talk, all questions

550
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Speaker 3: are being referred to the Minister of Finance. So Winston

551
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Speaker 3: doesn't want a bar of what's going on right now.

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Speaker 3: And Todd mclay's with us after five fourteen away from five,

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Speaker 3: Barry Sober, Senior Political correspondence with US. Hey, Barry, good afternoon.

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Speaker 9: Western's a diplomat, of course, and so he's playing a

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Speaker 9: very under the counter diplomatic role here, whereas Tod McLay.

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Speaker 9: He's got to talk to the Americans yet again today.

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Speaker 9: And you will remember that Todd McClay said that anything

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Speaker 9: any other country that came in under what we're going

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Speaker 9: to pay, they've got the big advantage. Now you only

560
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Speaker 9: have to look across the ditch to see that the

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Speaker 9: Australians at ten percent have got big advantages. One is

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Speaker 9: our wine exports to the US, and that's a simple one.

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Speaker 9: The other one's beef. You know, New Zealand's increasing its

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Speaker 9: beef exports to the United States. And you've got to

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Speaker 9: remember too that the United States is the second largest

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Speaker 9: export market for New Zealand goods.

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Speaker 2: So it's a very.

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Speaker 9: Important market for US. And let's hope that they can talk.

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Speaker 9: You talked earlier about the suck ups, and so care

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Speaker 9: starmer offering the letter from King Charles, or we've got

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Speaker 9: a Charles in this country that maybe we should be

572
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Speaker 9: using as Bob Charles, who Bob who Donald Trump loves.

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Speaker 9: Maybe we could get a letter from Bob Charles to

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Speaker 9: Donald Trump.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is the difficulty though, in all seriousness,

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Speaker 3: if we tried to suck up, what would we use

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Speaker 3: to suck.

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Speaker 9: Well, that's the problem. We new Zealand's gotten. Don't forget

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Speaker 9: we turned Donald Trump down for a casino here back

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Speaker 9: in nineteen ninety three.

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Speaker 3: Do you think he's still holding it?

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Speaker 9: Well, he's a man to hold grudges. So who knows.

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Speaker 9: But McLay said, I've just been watching his news conference

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Speaker 9: with Nicola Willis. He said that there are a number

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Speaker 9: of areas where there could be exemptions. I wonder what

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Speaker 9: they are. Are they beef and wine? Who knows? And

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Speaker 9: the basic tenant here is that anyone who sells more

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Speaker 9: to the US than they buy a penalize more than others.

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Speaker 9: And you know, our surplus in terms of exports is

590
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Speaker 9: half a billion dollars, not a lot of money, and

591
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Speaker 9: waiting in the wings is more Boeing purchases both by

592
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Speaker 9: our military and buy in New Zealand. So that'll tip

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Speaker 9: the balance the other way to maybe that's a bargaining

594
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Speaker 9: chip as well, because it'll be then in the American's

595
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Speaker 9: favor and that's what it's all about. So it's a

596
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Speaker 9: hell of a body blow in New Zealand. Fifteen percent,

597
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Speaker 9: and don't forget in April it was Donald Trump that

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Speaker 9: said we would be paying ten percent.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I feel like I feel like Todd

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Speaker 3: mcclay's KPI just changed. Five minutes ago. It was can

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Speaker 3: you get the deal with India? Now it's can you

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Speaker 3: get this to ten percent? It's got to be his

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Speaker 3: priority now, absolutely absolutely it does.

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Speaker 6: Yes.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Now, what do you make of Winston Peter's want

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Speaker 3: to wanting to entrench New Zealand as the name to

607
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Speaker 3: get rid of Altsy at all?

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Speaker 9: Well, he got the slap down the other day from

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Speaker 9: the Speaker Jerry Brownlee when he Winston likes to refuse

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Speaker 9: to answer questions in the House that have at her

611
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Speaker 9: Rah in them, and he said that look, any true historian,

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Speaker 9: a cultural expert in this country knows that at hera

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Speaker 9: is not the original Moldy word for this country. And

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Speaker 9: he said, you know, people should think about this, that

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Speaker 9: it should be in legislation that's not written anywhere in

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Speaker 9: legislation in a formal sense that this country is New Zealand.

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Speaker 9: The thing that Winston's more concerned about than many other

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Speaker 9: areas is that the public service have been creeping moory

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Speaker 9: names like Waka Katahi to futt or you know, places

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Speaker 9: like that that suddenly crept into the vanaka in New Zealand. Now, Winston,

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Speaker 9: being a Moldy can say that if it was us

622
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Speaker 9: saying that it's disgraceful, then we'd get a label attached

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Speaker 9: to us pretty quickly. But Winston's saying it, He's got

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Speaker 9: the label anyway. It doesn't really matter. But look, he's

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Speaker 9: old fashioned. He thinks that we should be in New

626
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Speaker 9: Zealand we salute the flag that our four bears fought

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Speaker 9: to preserve, and therefore it should be legislating.

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Speaker 3: I'm so tired of this nonsense from Winiston. I just

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Speaker 3: you know what, I think God should do us a

630
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Speaker 3: favor and get one of these ridiculous bills drawn out

631
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Speaker 3: of the biscuiton so we can see what Winston's really

632
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Speaker 3: made of him, whether he's really going to vote for

633
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Speaker 3: this crap he would, do you really believe it? Yes,

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Speaker 3: he does.

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Speaker 9: I know he cares. He's a nationalist, don't forget. That's

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Speaker 9: what New Zealand First is a nationalist party. He's a

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Speaker 9: good mate of Farage in the UK, So think along

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Speaker 9: with the.

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Speaker 3: Water Right down if he had to. Anyway, look very

640
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Speaker 3: quickly on the oil and gas band. I know that

641
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Speaker 3: the ban has now been lifted, but are we actually

642
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Speaker 3: going to see anyone drilling or is this just performance?

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Speaker 9: Well, the key to this isn't it really is the

644
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Speaker 9: basically the coalition trying to get agreement out of the

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Speaker 9: opposition parties. That's the Mauldi Party, the Greens and the

646
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Speaker 9: Labor Party that basically brought in this ban as one

647
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Speaker 9: of their first actions on becoming government back in twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 9: Don't forget Shane Jones was standing on stage with Sinda

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Speaker 9: Dern when this was announced and it came out of

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Speaker 9: the blue for the industry. I in fact broke the

651
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Speaker 9: story and it was tipped off to me from the

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Speaker 9: industry that this was going to happen. Nobody could believe

653
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Speaker 9: they'd be that stupid where alternatives hadn't been put in place. Nevertheless,

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Speaker 9: the band came in. We're importing Indonesian coal now and

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Speaker 9: we're running out of gas reserves. One can only hope

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Speaker 9: now that there's a signal being sent out to investors

657
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Speaker 9: this is the place to invest in. These areas going.

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Speaker 3: I tell you in a minute why they won't. But hey,

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Speaker 3: we'll wrap the political week. That was when you come

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Speaker 3: back about quarter past six. Thanks Barry, that's eight away

661
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Speaker 3: from five and Barry, so about sing your political correspondence.

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Speaker 1: Putting the time questions to the newspeakers the mic asking.

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Speaker 18: Breakfast an old idea that's been reheated with a briefing

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Speaker 18: paper suggesting that NCEEA has failed to provide clear pathways

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Speaker 18: into the trades. Doctor Sandra Gray's the Tertiary Education Union

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Speaker 18: National Secretary Look New.

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Speaker 19: Zealand does unfortunately have quite a bad attitude towards trades

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Speaker 19: and vocational education. We have this idea that if you

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Speaker 19: push everybody into the academic and into universities, we're going

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Speaker 19: to get higher wages, you're going to get a better life. Outcome.

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Speaker 19: So this is a system wide problem. We don't take

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Speaker 19: vocational education seriously and we really don't talk to earlier

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Speaker 19: enough about the mini parts that you can take in

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Speaker 19: your life.

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Speaker 18: Back Monday from six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 18: a Vida News Talk.

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Speaker 3: Z B here the why would you invest in a

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Speaker 3: country that's just going to turn around and ban your

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Speaker 3: industry again in three years? Bang on, That's exactly what

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Speaker 3: I was going to say. So it's listening to what

681
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Speaker 3: was going on yesterday in politics, and I think it

682
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Speaker 3: was Steve Abel from the Greens. If you don't know

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Speaker 3: who I'm talking about, it's the one who's got like

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Speaker 3: a rumpel Stiltskin like look about him. You know, he's

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Speaker 3: got sort of short on top. Was there a top

686
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Speaker 3: knot there for a bit there was a top knot

687
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Speaker 3: bolding with a topknot, and you get like, you get

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Speaker 3: the image that it was like fully hippie, you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean. And then like anyway, so now that

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Speaker 3: you know now that I've painted you that picture, so

691
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Speaker 3: I think it was Steve Hope pops up in the

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Speaker 3: house and is like, you can't revive this. The zombie

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Speaker 3: of an industry, because why would anyone invest in it

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Speaker 3: when they know that there will just be another government

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Speaker 3: that's gonna come in and just put this band back on.

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Speaker 3: And I thought, you jerk, And that's what we're dealing with.

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Speaker 3: That's what labor's dealing with. Labour needs to understand that,

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Speaker 3: because when you've got we've got fruities like that standing

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Speaker 3: up and saying things like that, people are gonna look

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Speaker 3: at it and go awesome, yeah, real great, great coalition partners.

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Speaker 3: You've got their labor. And so that's the problem. As

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Speaker 3: long as that is a potential government, and it is

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Speaker 3: a potential government Labor plus the Greens plus the other

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Speaker 3: lot the hangers on, then you know, you know, why

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Speaker 3: would anybody invest in it? But Steve might come in

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Speaker 3: and ban it again. Anyway, listen, I've got some very

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Speaker 3: very good news for you. Do you remember that kafuffle

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Speaker 3: that was going on about the big building in k

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Speaker 3: Road in Auckland, which was it was just an absolute

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Speaker 3: disgrace because it was the James Kirkpatrick group had had

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Speaker 3: put in an application to build I think it was

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Speaker 3: like eleven story high and it was going to be

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Speaker 3: some residential and maybe some retail downstairs or something like that,

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Speaker 3: and it looked to me quite nice. I thought, yep,

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Speaker 3: we should say yes to that. And then the council

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Speaker 3: said na, because it doesn't look nice and we prefer

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Speaker 3: the gravel parking lot we've got at the moment. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: that's just been overturned. Council has now come to its sensus.

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Speaker 3: They've gone they the developer went to the environment called

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Speaker 3: applied to have it overturned. The Council back them up

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Speaker 3: in it, and it has been overturned and they shall

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Speaker 3: now build the building. How good is that? Because I

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Speaker 3: think we can all agree one thing that's better than

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Speaker 3: a gravel pit is an actual building that people can

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Speaker 3: live in. Right, Todd McLay, Trade Minister is going to

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Speaker 3: be with us after five o'clock and then we'll go

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Speaker 3: to New South Wales. They're going to gloat about nicking

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Speaker 3: our cops. News talks that be.

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Speaker 1: Skill tell you where you can go, questions, answers, facts analysis,

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Speaker 1: The drive show you trust for the full picture. Heather

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Speaker 1: Dupers on Drive with One New Zealand Let's get connected.

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Speaker 1: News talks at be.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon and something of a shock today we have

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Speaker 3: been slapped with a fifteen percent tariff, up from the

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Speaker 3: ten percent we were expecting the Trump administration administration to

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Speaker 3: hit us with. Meanwhile, Ozzie has still managed to stay

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Speaker 3: on ten percent. Todd McLay is our trade minister and

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Speaker 3: with us. Hey Todd, Hey, Heather, what happened? Did we

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Speaker 3: do something wrong?

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Speaker 2: Well, no, we didn't.

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Speaker 11: I think it's just a very blunt formula that the

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Speaker 11: US president, President Trump has used. He's asked for a

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Speaker 11: list of all the country that they have a trade

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Speaker 11: deficit with, Ie, we sell them marginally more than we

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Speaker 11: buy from them, and he slapped fifteen percent or more

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Speaker 11: on those sorts of countries. Interestingly, Australia buys a lot

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Speaker 11: more from the US than they sell them and even

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Speaker 11: they got that ten percent last time. So it is

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Speaker 11: disappointing and challenging for some of our exporters, but there's

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Speaker 11: still opportunities in that market. All bit terariff rates are

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Speaker 11: not good for trade.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, were you guys too relaxed about this? I mean,

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Speaker 3: could you have tried to do something like the Aussies

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Speaker 3: did lifting the beef band, something like the South Koreans

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Speaker 3: did offering to buy huge amounts of allergy.

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Speaker 11: Well, no, South Korea has a fifteen percent as well

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Speaker 11: from twenty five country. Yeah, but it's still fifteen percent

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Speaker 11: as opposed to as opposed to others, so they've got

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Speaker 11: to deal there. There's been a lot of engagement. I

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Speaker 11: think you've seen Winston Peter's up in the US. I've

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Speaker 11: met with my counterpart a lot. Our officials have been

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Speaker 11: talking a lot, and you know, we've been working through this.

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Speaker 11: But ultimately, there are countries there that actually have been

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Speaker 11: engaging and negotiating in the same things happened to them.

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Speaker 11: I think it is just a blunt formula. You know,

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Speaker 11: the President has been saying for a number of weeks,

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Speaker 11: you know, he's going to be lowering the bottom tariff rate,

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Speaker 11: and he has done that. Although you are right, there's

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Speaker 11: a couple of countries that, it seems haven't had that

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Speaker 11: happen to them. We I've put in a request for

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Speaker 11: anos in core with my counterpart to be raising some

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Speaker 11: of these challenges and concerns and ask what we do

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Speaker 11: from here, because we would like to get that tariff

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Speaker 11: rate back down. But ultimately, I think what happens is

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Speaker 11: the President of America makes decisions and their system follows.

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Speaker 3: Are you saying there are a couple of countries who

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Speaker 3: you would have expected to see go up to fifteen

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Speaker 3: percent and that hasn't happened.

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Speaker 11: No, I'm saying there are some countries that have negotiatd

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Speaker 11: have got deals that have been on fifteen percent, and

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Speaker 11: again it's just those gone down to ten.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: No, nobody's gone down to ten that I'm aware, unless

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Speaker 11: it had already been has already been announced. No, No,

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Speaker 11: what I'm saying the other way around, there are countries

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Speaker 11: that when it goes in and got deals and they

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Speaker 11: still face ten percent as we do. And again it's

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Speaker 11: just based upon where or aren't you buyo sell more

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Speaker 11: from the US. Our trade deficit with them as about

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Speaker 11: five hundred million US dollars, and you know that in

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Speaker 11: the scheme of things of their economy. It's just not

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Speaker 11: significant at all. It's not that long ago. Actually, they

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Speaker 11: had a very big trade surplus against US. And will

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Speaker 11: again quite certain you and others are looking to buy

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Speaker 11: stuff and so this stuff swings around a little bit.

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Speaker 11: That's the case we'll be making. But we'll be saying, look,

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Speaker 11: this is unreason what it's unfair. We didn't like the

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Speaker 11: ten percent this is going to be harmful for US

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Speaker 11: consumers as well. The price gets passed on largely, and

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Speaker 11: you know we're making that case very very quickly.

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Speaker 3: God how much trouble in particular are our beef exporters

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Speaker 3: in Well, that's a very interesting one.

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Speaker 11: The US doesn't have enough beef and and they must

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Speaker 11: import because they don't produce enough of their own. So

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Speaker 11: Australia does have a lower tariff rate than we do.

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Speaker 11: But if you go back before the first announcement of

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Speaker 11: the ten percent, Australia was at zero because they have

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Speaker 11: a free trade agreement. So in the past in other markets.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that any of this is important because

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Speaker 3: because what we've got right now is Australia ten percent,

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Speaker 3: Uruguay ten percent, Argentina ten percent. Big beef exporters write

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Speaker 3: us on fifteen percent. Who's going to buy ours when

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Speaker 3: they can buy the beef from those countries and it's

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Speaker 3: good stuff.

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Speaker 11: Well, well, I guess the point that I'm making is

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Speaker 11: previously we've either been at the same or we have had,

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Speaker 11: you know, better at access with that market, and they

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Speaker 11: still do. The thing that I'm told about our beef exports,

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Speaker 11: Number one is that the majority of exports has been

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Speaker 11: able to pass that ten percent on. They'll need to

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Speaker 11: look at what that means with their contract and some

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Speaker 11: of the have said to me they'll be able to

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Speaker 11: absorb the extra five percent so they can still be

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Speaker 11: in that market. And the reason for that is actually,

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Speaker 11: you know, are very efficient producer and they need you buy.

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Speaker 3: God, if you compare ourselves to those three countries, we're

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Speaker 3: at a disadvantage now, aren't we.

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Speaker 11: Like I said, no question, Well the answer is no

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Speaker 11: question at all. But we have been against Australia as

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Speaker 11: a disadvantage for tour before and we've also increased our

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Speaker 11: access to that market to export. So sorry, I'm not

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Speaker 11: trying to paint the picture that this is good news.

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Speaker 2: It's not.

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Speaker 11: But our exports are very good in the nimble and

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Speaker 11: I do think that the beef market, although it's going

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Speaker 11: to be challenging and need to be worked through, they're

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Speaker 11: still going to be good access and there for us.

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Speaker 11: We'll be talking about that though with the EU with

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Speaker 11: the US, because it doesn't actually make sense when you

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Speaker 11: need product from around the world, but somebody who's a

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Speaker 11: good trading nation has very very low tariffs against your exporters.

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Speaker 2: You know that you are putting this out against them.

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Speaker 3: Okay, mate, listen, good luck with it and thanks very

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Speaker 3: much for talking to us. That's Todd McLay Trade Minister, Heather.

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Speaker 1: Do for see Allen.

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Speaker 3: This next story might wind you up a little bit.

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Speaker 3: The New South Wales Police Force is celebrating today because

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Speaker 3: twenty one experienced cops that they've poached to graduating, and

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Speaker 3: seven of those officers were stolen from New Zealand. The

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Speaker 3: New South Wales Police Minister is Yasmin Katle Yasmin. Good

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Speaker 3: to talk to you again.

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Speaker 17: Oh, good afternoon, Heather, and good afternoon to your listeners.

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Speaker 3: Now, yesman, I know you want to wind us up,

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Speaker 3: but I'm going to say to you that this was

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Speaker 3: a flop because you only got seven.

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Speaker 17: Ah yes, but there'll be more to come. We've had

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Speaker 17: more than one hundred applications for our professional mobility program

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Speaker 17: and those over the ditch are very very keen to

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Speaker 17: come over here and be part of the best police

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Speaker 17: force in the country and indeed probably in the world,

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Speaker 17: the New South Wales Police Force.

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Speaker 3: How many of those one hundred are you actually going

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Speaker 3: to end up taking?

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Speaker 17: Well, look, we had a third of today's at station

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Speaker 17: came from New Zealand and I met all of them

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Speaker 17: this morning, very excited to be here, be part of

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Speaker 17: what is the third largest police force in the world.

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Speaker 17: So you know, their opportunities are just endless, and they're

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Speaker 17: very happy to have attested and be part of that.

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Speaker 17: They enjoyed their training and they're looking forward to going

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Speaker 17: out to where they've been placed. Right around New South Wales.

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Speaker 3: I see you are poaching, as you say, obviously from US,

873
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 3: but also from other states. Looks to me like a

874
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 3: few of the other states are getting annoyed at you guys,

875
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 3: are they?

876
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 17: Oh yeah, look, we're shameless. We make no apology for

877
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 17: poaching or any police from anywhere. I mean, you know,

878
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 17: if you want to be part of the best police

879
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 17: force and you come to New South Wales, the opportunities

880
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 17: there are limitless.

881
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 2: You know.

882
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 17: We've got that state of origin over here, as you

883
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 17: well know, heather between Queensland and New South Wales, and

884
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 17: looks like we're creating with a few other borders now

885
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 17: and indeed also across the ditch.

886
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what though, what I find fascinating is

887
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 3: that regardless of all of these efforts by yourselves. You're

888
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,720
Speaker 3: still facing shortages which we are facing, which apparently everybody's facing.

889
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 3: What's going on that we are losing cops from our

890
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 3: respective police forces.

891
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 17: Yeah, look, I don't think it's just police though. To

892
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 17: be fair, we've got nearly record employment here in Australia,

893
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 17: so we're competing against every other industry, just as you

894
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 17: would be, and as is happening globally. So we're just

895
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Speaker 17: having to make, you know, incentivize people coming into the

896
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 17: New South Wales Police Force and making it very attractive

897
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 17: for them. We did give them a historic pay rise

898
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 17: in New South Wales last year, which now they're the

899
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 17: best paid police in this country, which was very significant

900
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Speaker 17: because their wages were going backward under the previous government

901
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 17: and so by giving them the pay rise was critically

902
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 17: important for it as a retention piece, and we're seeing

903
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,439
Speaker 17: that we're seeing some green shoots from that already they're

904
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Speaker 17: not leaving as much as they were. But this mobility program,

905
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 17: in all seriousness, it really is important. The skills that

906
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Speaker 17: some of the people there today are bringing with them.

907
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 17: You know, you have to be in the force for

908
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 17: ten fifteen years and they're coming over able to enter

909
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 17: the New South Wales Police Force at that level. Now,

910
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 17: that didn't happen eighteen months ago. Well actually even blessed

911
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 17: that it twelve months ago. You actually had to start

912
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,280
Speaker 17: as a probationary constable again. So these are the sorts

913
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Speaker 17: of innovative ideas that we've introduced to encourage those from

914
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Speaker 17: anywhere to come to New South Wales. But we've also

915
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Speaker 17: done some structural change internally as well, so they are

916
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 17: promoted earlier now and those sorts of things like you

917
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 17: have to have a really attractive offer and then you

918
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 17: have to make sure that you retain them and you

919
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 17: have to look after them. We've also set up a

920
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Speaker 17: health and well being unit to look after their welfare.

921
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Speaker 3: Brilliant stuff. Yesman, thanks so much for talking to us.

922
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Speaker 3: I'm sure we'll be talking to you again. I'm sure

923
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Speaker 3: you'll be frothing for that opportunity. Yesman, Katley, New South

924
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 3: Wales Police Minister. Right, let's deal with Shorty next quarter

925
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 3: past hither. I hate losing to the Aussies, but that

926
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Speaker 3: New South Wales Police Minister is running rings around us.

927
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Speaker 3: She's pretty great. A eighteen past five Shortland Street is saved.

928
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Speaker 3: You'll be able to listen to this a little bit more.

929
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 3: It's been announced the show is back next year, saved

930
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 3: yet again by taxpayers. Yep, we're stumping out bar cash,

931
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 3: this time two point five million dollars from New Zealand

932
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Speaker 3: on Air.

933
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Speaker 15: Now.

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Speaker 3: Cam Harland is the CEO of NZ on air, Hi Camp.

935
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Speaker 20: How are you. Heare lovely to speak to you again.

936
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Speaker 3: It's great to talk to you, and especially in these

937
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 3: you know, in these circumstances, this is obviously great news.

938
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Speaker 3: But what's happened here tough negotiation or something.

939
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 20: I wouldn't say it's tough negotiation in all honesty, I

940
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 20: guess on the one side, it's a little disappointing that

941
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 20: Shortland Street hasn't yet got to a point where it's

942
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 20: back to being commercially sustainable. I think, as you know,

943
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 20: we funded it last year and we were hoping that

944
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Speaker 20: that would be a transitional period for TVNZ and SPP

945
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 20: to kind of work out how they might get the

946
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Speaker 20: show back to a sort of a commercially sustainable face.

947
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Speaker 20: I think the truth of the matter is the you know,

948
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 20: the economic environment for ad funded media has not got

949
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 20: any better, and so we saw Shortland Street come back

950
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Speaker 20: into the most recent round and we have we have

951
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 20: agreed to fund it for two and a half mil.

952
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 3: Okay, do you think that what is going on with

953
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 3: Shorty Street is are they a victim of what's going

954
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 3: on with media in general or is it a Shortland

955
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 3: Street problem that will never be fixed.

956
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,720
Speaker 20: To be honest with you, I think it's the former.

957
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 20: What we're seeing with Shortland Street is definitely audiences engaging

958
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 20: with it. It's still a very very popular show. What

959
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 20: we're seeing is increasing numbers of especially young people, which

960
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,399
Speaker 20: is a hard to reach audience for us. So that's

961
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Speaker 20: another reason why it stacks up as far as our

962
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,760
Speaker 20: funds are concerned. They are engaging with it on demand.

963
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,720
Speaker 20: And what we're seeing with most of the media companies

964
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Speaker 20: out there is it their linear, their linear broadcast or

965
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 20: there you know, in the case of newspapers, it's the

966
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 20: print is where most of the money is. The digital

967
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 20: space is where the audiences are moving to, but are

968
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Speaker 20: sort of trying to catch up in terms of monetizing

969
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 20: those audiences.

970
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 2: YEP.

971
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Speaker 3: So basically you would expect that once TVNZ figures out

972
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Speaker 3: how to get money out of audiences for going online,

973
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 3: this should be okay, and they shouldn't need any more

974
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 3: of your money.

975
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Speaker 20: That is absolutely the hope. As I say, though, I

976
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 20: mean the reality is this show for us does stack up.

977
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 20: It delivers a really significant, meaningful audience, and it delivers

978
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 20: on a sort of a cultural element as well. It

979
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Speaker 20: does reflect the evolving faces of modern New Zealand, and

980
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,760
Speaker 20: that's kind of what we're here for. But an answer

981
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 20: to your question, I think TVZ and SPP would both

982
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 20: say that they are also hoping that they can work

983
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 20: out a way to get the show back to being

984
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 20: commercially sustainable.

985
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 3: I think we all are certain stop costing us money.

986
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Speaker 3: Thank you, Cam appreciated. Cam Harland ends it on a

987
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 3: CEO tell you what? Can I just say this? How

988
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 3: refreshing to have somebody come on and just tell us

989
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 3: what happened and how they feel about it. Isn't that wonderful?

990
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 3: It's quite nice, isn't it? For a change?

991
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: Five to twenty one informed inside into today's issues. It's

992
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: Heather Duplicy Ellen drive with one New Zealand. Let's get

993
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: connected news talks.

994
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 9: That'd be Yeah.

995
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 3: The re short industry has had an amazing run, but

996
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 3: nothing last forever. Stop dragging out this demise just give

997
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 3: it the bullet. Lord. That's from Jeremy five twenty five.

998
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 3: We'll talk about the bullet in a minute. Five twenty four. Now,

999
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 3: I feel like we've got off on the wrong foot

1000
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 3: with the FBI office in Wellington. What do you think

1001
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 3: I mean? This assumes obviously that they actually set up

1002
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 3: a proper office and don't just send us a couple

1003
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 3: of donut eaters who put their feet up on the

1004
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 3: desk and say I work for the FBI and Wellington.

1005
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 3: Assuming that's not the case, I actually think we should

1006
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 3: be grateful for this, rather than just stressing out like

1007
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 3: we do always about what China is going to do.

1008
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 3: In response, China not going to do anything about this.

1009
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 3: They never do. They say a lot of words, they

1010
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 3: make us know that, you know, make sure we know

1011
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 3: that they are angry about something, and then nothing ever

1012
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 3: happens because the truth is, they still need us to

1013
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 3: be their friend. So perhaps we can stop imagining dragons

1014
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 3: every time China's embassy puts out a statement angry at us.

1015
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 3: On the contrary, if as I said, this office really

1016
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,720
Speaker 3: is a functioning office, then isn't this what we actually

1017
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 3: want right now? Because we have a significant and growing

1018
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 3: problem with serious organized a serious organized crime. We have

1019
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 3: more meth heading our shores than ever before. We have

1020
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 3: drugs coming to the Pacific and creating problems like we've

1021
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 3: never had before that ultimately becomes our problem. We have

1022
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 3: much more serious criminals setting up here after being deported

1023
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 3: as five ozho ones from Australia than ever before. So surely,

1024
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 3: given that we are increasingly being hit by global drug traders,

1025
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 3: we should welcome global police enforcement efforts. Having the FBI

1026
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 3: here to work with is surely a good thing. There

1027
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 3: is always a chance, of course, I mean I'm not

1028
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 3: super naive. There's always a chance that none of this

1029
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 3: is really about crime fighting, and that's a front. And

1030
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 3: it's actually as cash Battel said about countering China, in

1031
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 3: which case has anything really changed, Because we're already countering

1032
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,919
Speaker 3: an't we were already in five Eyes. That's anti China.

1033
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 3: We're already being considered for aucust that's anti China. We're

1034
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 3: already clearly buying military year to be able to work

1035
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 3: with Australia and withstanding China. So either way, it's you know,

1036
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,439
Speaker 3: not a bad thing. It's either worst case, no change

1037
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 3: at all, or best case it helps us fight the

1038
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 3: global bad guys. It seems to me like this is

1039
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 3: nothing to be afraid of, in everything to be grateful

1040
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:28,720
Speaker 3: for ever Duplessyl and the bullet right, Oprah Winfrey, Jacinda

1041
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 3: r Dern and Karmala Harris are going to be hunting

1042
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 3: rabbits in the South Island because they're ferrets. Ay, there

1043
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 3: is a guy called Jim Curry who's been doing is

1044
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 3: always rather doing some pest control operation thing in Lowers Shotover,

1045
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 3: and he has named his ferrets Jacinda, Oprah and Carmela.

1046
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 3: And the more the more I've looked into this, the

1047
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 3: more intrigued Dian because it turns out there's also a

1048
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 3: Hillary Clinton. There's a R Kelly, a P. Diddy, and

1049
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 3: a Drake and also a Joe Biden. Now I have

1050
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 3: spent the afternoon trying to figure out where the gym

1051
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 3: is a lefty or a righty because I don't feel

1052
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 3: like you call your pet Ferreit just send it as

1053
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 3: a compliment, do you. But then I say that as

1054
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 3: somebody who doesn't like a ferret, but he likes a ferret.

1055
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,240
Speaker 3: He's got a bunch of ferrets. He's the owner of ferrets,

1056
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 3: so maybe if you own ferrets and like ferrets, then

1057
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 3: you do call then it's a compliment to call it.

1058
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 7: But Heather, if we go with that approach, then that

1059
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 7: means he likes R. Kelly and P. Diddy, which I

1060
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Speaker 7: think is highly unlikely.

1061
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 3: So he might be a fan of he might be

1062
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 3: a fan of hip hop. I mean, Drake's done that

1063
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 3: go wrong and there's a Drake there.

1064
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, but there's all that stuff with the Kendrick feud

1065
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 7: though those three together are very suspicious, So I think

1066
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 7: I think we might be leaning towards the right wing.

1067
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,399
Speaker 3: You think he's a writing he's a writer who's called

1068
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 3: his ferrets. Karmela, Hillary and Noprah just send it to

1069
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 3: punish them anyway. They're going after the rats. It's going

1070
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 3: to be really fun to watch. Keep an eye on

1071
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 3: that sports huddle, next.

1072
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: On the iHeart app, and in your car on your

1073
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: drive home. It's hither duplicy with one New Zealand. Let's

1074
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: get connected news dogs they'd be.

1075
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:14,839
Speaker 21: Feather.

1076
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,280
Speaker 3: It's illegal to keep ferrets as pets in New Zealand.

1077
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 3: If they're not really well, would I call them ferrets

1078
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 3: like when I call them pets? They're more like the

1079
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 3: tools of the trade for these guys. They they go

1080
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 3: out and the hunt the rats, So maybe maybe calling

1081
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:29,879
Speaker 3: them pets in this instance is not fair. But also

1082
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 3: it's quite interesting, isn't it. It's quite a bizarre way

1083
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 3: to go out and hunt the rats because all the rabbits,

1084
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 3: because we tried this the other time and then we

1085
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Speaker 3: had a problem with the ferrets, didn't we at least

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Speaker 3: these guys apparently come home. Stephen Jacoby, by the way,

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Speaker 3: Stephen Jacoby is a former trade negotiator who thinks that

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Speaker 3: we're quite stuffed with this fifteen percent tariff. He's with

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Speaker 3: us after six o'clock to explain it. You remember the

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Speaker 3: pay equity claim, geeze, that feels like a long time

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Speaker 3: ago now, But remember how that that came out of

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Speaker 3: nowhere and how we were all surprised by it because

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Speaker 3: nobody had wind of it. Well, there are some OYA

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Speaker 3: doc Official Information Act documents that now reveal how on

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Speaker 3: earth a government managed to keep it a secret this long,

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Speaker 3: but before they actually got it out, because a fair

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Speaker 3: amount of work went into it first, but nothing leaked.

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Speaker 3: And it was because what they were doing was they

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Speaker 3: were removing digital access to cabinet papers, so that you know,

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Speaker 3: senior private secretaries and ministerial advisers and just you know

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Speaker 3: the old the people working in various ministerial offices couldn't

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Speaker 3: get their hands on it, couldn't see what was going on,

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00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 3: got no wind of it at all. They would hard copy,

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Speaker 3: they would hand deliver hard copies to minister's offices. These

1105
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Speaker 3: are the ministers that needed to know about it. And

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00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 3: also they even had a code name for it, which

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Speaker 3: was Project ten. Twenty four away from.

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Speaker 8: For you.

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Speaker 7: From twenty points down. The Mulus come back and steal it.

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Speaker 6: In part there is a change in economic and netball

1114
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Speaker 6: New Zealand is investing in this, but we actually feel

1115
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Speaker 6: it's right in the direction we're hitting the vision that

1116
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Speaker 6: we have that Kiwis can see our game.

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Speaker 5: As a kid, I obviously didn't think this opportunity would

1118
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Speaker 5: ever be there, and when the phoenix kind of came

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Speaker 5: to light a few years ago, I said to my

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Speaker 5: mum that that was a dream of mine to be

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Speaker 5: able to come back and play professionally.

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Speaker 17: So it's really exciting.

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Speaker 3: Sports tittle this evening Evening, Levina Goods sports journalist and

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Speaker 3: Nicky Star a sports journalist as well. Ladies.

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Speaker 13: Hello, Hi kyodak yioda waity tour tonight. Good to speak

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Speaker 13: to you, lady.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for the compliment, Levina. Now Netbull and the

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Speaker 3: TV and Z deal, Levina, are we watching the end

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Speaker 3: of the sport?

1130
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Speaker 13: I think it's too early to say that. I mean

1131
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 13: Netbulle New Zealand had dilemma. They had to choose between

1132
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 13: no coverage after Sky said we're not going to do

1133
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 13: it anymore because we've had lower ratings, or they actually

1134
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 13: had to pay to stay visible on TV and Z,

1135
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 13: so they needed to make a choice and they were

1136
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,240
Speaker 13: forced to make it. The thing is Netbourne New Zealand

1137
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 13: is paying TV and ZED for the coverage instead of

1138
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 13: receiving right seas, which is kind of unheard of. Back

1139
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 13: in the day when I covered the net Ball, before

1140
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 13: the wrinkles and the gray hair came about, there was

1141
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 13: a joint competition between Australia and New Zealand and it

1142
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 13: built drama and player development and every single service provider

1143
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 13: wanted to put it on their platform. And it's not

1144
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 13: the case at the moment, so a decision had to

1145
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 13: be made and they've done it and the questions need

1146
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 13: to be asked. I guess we'll play as salaries we can't.

1147
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 13: We'll players want to earn money overseas in Australia, in

1148
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 13: England and then come back and return for the ferns.

1149
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 13: We won't know at this stage, but they had no

1150
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 13: choice either. Sky said no and they said we want

1151
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 13: it on free to wear, so we'll pay to get

1152
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 13: it on free to wear rather than receive the funds.

1153
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 13: And I guess it's just watched this space at this stage.

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00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 3: Looky, how do they get themselves back? I mean, if

1155
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 3: we accept that the mistake starts with pulling out of

1156
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 3: the Trans Tasman League, how do you get back from that?

1157
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,479
Speaker 3: How do you get people watching this game again?

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00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 4: Yeah?

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00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 8: Well, I think Levina made a very good point. When

1160
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 8: it was Australia and New Zealand, it was a top

1161
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 8: quo see competition and yeah you definitely got eyeballs on

1162
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 8: it and the you know, financial.

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00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 19: Rewards were there.

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Speaker 8: I think it is a red flag for New Zealand's

1165
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 8: netball and they're probably putting on a pretty brave face,

1166
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 8: right now how they get back from it? Well, I

1167
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 8: guess the problem is we don't exactly know what the

1168
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 8: deal is with TV and Z. You know, they might

1169
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:23,320
Speaker 8: be paying a right fee. They might be the revenue they're.

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Speaker 3: Not they're not paying a right spee. Yeah, they're not

1171
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 3: paying a right s fee. And what they're doing is

1172
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 3: that so Netbull pays the production costs and then TVNZ

1173
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 3: just basically there may be some revenue sharing that happens.

1174
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 3: We don't know for sure what's going on there, but

1175
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 3: either way, I mean, this is this is it's not good.

1176
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 3: A huge departure from the heyday, isn't it?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it certainly is. And yes you might see some

1178
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 8: fallout with players, as you say, chasing the dollar overseas,

1179
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,280
Speaker 8: but they had no choice. They had to remain visible,

1180
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 8: they had to keep that exposure there, and they've got

1181
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 8: to keep their sponsors happy. How are you going to

1182
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,879
Speaker 8: do that if you're not broadcasting the product? So, yeah,

1183
00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:58,720
Speaker 8: it's going to be interesting.

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Speaker 3: So are we watching the desk? What do you think, Nikki?

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Speaker 13: My big is a decline? I thure I actually do

1186
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 13: think it is a decline, But I guess you can

1187
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 13: maybe look overseas and look what Channel nine Australia have

1188
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 13: done with the NLW free to wear or even the

1189
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Speaker 13: Big Bat, Like, if you're going to go free to wear,

1190
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Speaker 13: then let's let's create some heroes and let's spend hits

1191
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Speaker 13: of money on marketing and draw on that grassroots netball,

1192
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 13: support your local players, you know, because it's a great game.

1193
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 13: Like we just watched the final. It was a great match.

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00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 13: The final was fantastic and we've seen what freeda air

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Speaker 13: has done for cricket in this country as well. So

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Speaker 13: let's kind of push the marketing that way and say

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Speaker 13: this is our sport. We owner, we're keeping it here,

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Speaker 13: let's support it. But it'll take some investment in marketing

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Speaker 13: and it doesn't sound like there's a lot of money

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Speaker 13: for that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and maybe the free to air is the clawback

1202
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 3: that they need.

1203
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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: Listen, Nikki, we've got this thing where school Sport New

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00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 3: Zealand has decided a hard band on the year four

1206
00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 3: teens is necessary. Is that too inflexible or do you

1207
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Speaker 3: like it?

1208
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 15: Well?

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Speaker 8: I don't think it should be a blanket ban. In essence,

1210
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Speaker 8: I do agree that year fourteens shouldn't really be coming

1211
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Speaker 8: back and taking the spot of a year thirteen who's

1212
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 8: trying to play in their age group cohort. I think

1213
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 8: that that's you know, unfair, and also you get the

1214
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 8: physical advantages of a bigger person, of stacking the teams

1215
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 8: all of that. So I think they're hitting in the

1216
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 8: right direction. What I think they do need to do, though,

1217
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 8: is have exceptions case by case, you know, if it's

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00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 8: a genuine health reason or if they're academic reasons, and

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00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 8: you know, view it each school on those cases, and

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00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 8: maybe you could have a middle ground where you say, okay,

1221
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 8: well you have an age limit, so they have to

1222
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 8: be under nineteen at the start of the year, and

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00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 8: you're only allowed to pertem and only kids returning for

1224
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,800
Speaker 8: educational reasons. So I think if you did that that

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Speaker 8: would sort of mitigate some of those unfair factors.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that sounds perfectly reasonable, does it to you, Levina?

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Speaker 13: Ah, I'm actually thinking it doesn't seem there that they

1228
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Speaker 13: can return. I don't like the idea of using it

1229
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 13: as an incentives to return to school. They're for sure, like,

1230
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 13: for sure, there are some kids who genuinely need to

1231
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 13: return to a fourteenth year of school that you know,

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00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 13: I play social sport and maybe focus more on the academia.

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Speaker 13: I'm a fan of once you've left that year thirteen.

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Speaker 13: It's not fair because I kind of think there's lots

1235
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 13: of sports that will be saying, hey, come back to

1236
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 13: school and let's see if we can win a national

1237
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 13: school sport competition. So I'm all for the band.

1238
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 3: What about Levina, If you have a kid who's been

1239
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 3: promoted up because they're a smart kid, right, so they're

1240
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 3: actually year twelve playing in year thirteen, can they come

1241
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 3: back and do year thirteen with their own age group.

1242
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 13: Yeah, that's a good question. I think that is kind

1243
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,479
Speaker 13: of one of the dilemmas of the process, I guess,

1244
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 13: And it's really good to have those smart kids. But

1245
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 13: I think in terms of the way this band has

1246
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 13: been interpreted that there's plenty, plenty of examples of schools

1247
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 13: that are bringing kids back at eighteen nineteen and kind

1248
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 13: of tempting them with the fact that they can potentially

1249
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 13: play a senior sports role, and it's not fair on

1250
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 13: those kids that are smaller, younger, not a year older.

1251
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 13: So yeah, I guess there has to be a line.

1252
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, we'll take a break, come back to you guys.

1253
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Speaker 3: It's seventeen away from.

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Speaker 1: Six the Friday Sports Hurdle with New Zealand South of

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Speaker 1: East International Realty, the ones for unmatched results.

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Speaker 3: Right, you're back with the sports Huddle, Nicky Styrus and

1257
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Speaker 3: Levina good Nikki. I'll tell you what I've been puzzling

1258
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 3: over this week.

1259
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 9: Right.

1260
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 3: I was listened to Kevin Putt who was on with Hosking,

1261
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 3: and they were talking about that bash up that happened

1262
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 3: at the Auckland Grammar game, and he said, the reason

1263
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 3: this kind of stuff happens is because we in the

1264
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 3: media and so on complain about the refs in professional games,

1265
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 3: and so the people on the sideline at Auckland Grammar

1266
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 3: think it's okay. What do you think?

1267
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, I actually heard him say that, and yeah he's

1268
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 8: not one to minces Max's words. Look, I think elite

1269
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 8: behavior basically sets the tone. And if you see a

1270
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 8: lot of ref blaming becoming sort of a default, and

1271
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 8: we do see that a lot. If you see it

1272
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 8: in press conferences and then it's played out through social media,

1273
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 8: that inevitably trickles down into the sort of community level.

1274
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 8: So I think that what actually ends up happening as

1275
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 8: it's normalizing this sort of ref blaming culture.

1276
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 3: Sometimes the reefs are to blame like often yeah, of course,

1277
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 3: but but.

1278
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 8: Ref is human and you know they're given a job

1279
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 8: to do. They're not robots, they're not perfect.

1280
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 3: I think you know, NICKI, if Boden Barrett was playing

1281
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 3: a terrible game, we would blame them and would say

1282
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 3: swap them out for day though, wouldn't we?

1283
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 19: So why can't we Boden?

1284
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 8: Of course we can, of course we can, but it

1285
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 8: has to be in a controlled way. And things are

1286
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 8: getting out of control, and I think that you you

1287
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 8: perhaps need to just have the right sort of forum

1288
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 8: as to how you fix it. So you might say, well,

1289
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 8: look there's a postmatch media ban on ref's comments so

1290
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 8: that it can't be played out there, or you know,

1291
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 8: there might be slightly stricter band for reef abuse so

1292
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 8: that you don't see people sort of socially out of control.

1293
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 8: But no, I agree you do. You definitely have to

1294
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 8: be able to have a discussion. It just needs to

1295
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 8: be a controlled discussion.

1296
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Speaker 3: What do you reckon, Leavina?

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00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 13: I'll tell you what was a controlled discussion. I was

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Speaker 13: in Australia last week with the Lines Wallabies and there

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00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 13: was a horrendous reference decision, and this is a professional

1300
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 13: referee paid loads of money to understand the concept of

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00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 13: the rules and should be standing up to expectation. My issue,

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00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 13: I guess is school kids are rugby or netball or

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00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 13: hockey or sport, and you've got these volunteers who are

1304
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 13: rests and they're parts of the community, and people give

1305
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 13: them a hard time all the time. So if you

1306
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 13: get paid for it even hits the money and you

1307
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 13: make a wrong decision, I say, lift by this or

1308
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 13: die by the sword. If you're a volunteer locally and

1309
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:32,439
Speaker 13: you're doing something for the sporting community, give it a break.

1310
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Speaker 8: Parents, let them be Yeah, but I mean, Levini, you

1311
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 8: see it in the NRL all the time. There's horrendous

1312
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 8: reffing decisions and bunker decisions. And then what do they

1313
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 8: do at the end of it. Oh, they go to

1314
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 8: the to the to the man at the topic. His

1315
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 8: name escapes me at the moment, and they come back

1316
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 8: and go, yes, we agree that riff got it wrong

1317
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 8: and there's no consequences. So then you go, well, you know,

1318
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 8: what do you do there? Because that is so frustrating

1319
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 8: for a sport, you know, fanatic.

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00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 13: Yeah, it's frustrating. You see it all the time in

1321
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 13: rugby league and the Bunker when it was just introduced

1322
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 13: years ago and it was worth millions of dollars, got

1323
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 13: it wrong, wrong and wrong again. But okay, what we're

1324
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:07,479
Speaker 13: all good refs at home, aren't we. We're great rich.

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Speaker 8: Bread tonight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm surprised, Levina. I'm surprised you thought that reef

1327
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 3: got it wrong and I thought the reef got it right.

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01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 3: I thought, ah, here we go a bit of common sense.

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Speaker 13: No, yeah, I don't know. I think I've seen that

1330
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 13: about fifteen thousand times and there has been a penalty awarded.

1331
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 13: But anyway, in the end, in the end, the lines

1332
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 13: played better than the Wallabies. You bow your hat to that.

1333
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 13: But when it comes to a Rugby World Cup final

1334
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 13: and the All Blacks don't win and it's because of

1335
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 13: referees decision as well, you start to ask a few questions.

1336
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 3: Ever, listen, Levina, I know that you love the old NRL.

1337
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,760
Speaker 3: So Jason pine reckons this is a season defining game

1338
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 3: for the Warriors tonight.

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Speaker 13: What do you think I'm so with jas on this one.

1340
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 13: I mean, it's six weeks from the playoffs and tonight

1341
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 13: the Warriors are playing without the captain. There's no weight Egan,

1342
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 13: no Harris Tavita.

1343
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 4: But if the.

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Speaker 13: Warriors lose this week and they lose next week against

1345
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 13: the number two Bulldogs playing amazingly, and the Panthers win

1346
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 13: the next two, the Warriors are out of the top four.

1347
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 13: So everyone's saying one game at a time, we're fine,

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01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 13: We're fine, but you won't win a premiership in the

1349
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Speaker 13: NRL unless you are in the top four. I watched

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01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 13: the game against the Titans last week and that they

1351
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 13: were seventeenth in the competition. They were down by twelve

1352
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 13: and they capitalized on some really poor defensive efforts. But

1353
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 13: it was the match before against the Knights where I

1354
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 13: thought the Warriors were even worse and they won on

1355
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 13: the hooter. So the Dolphins are a really good attacking side.

1356
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 13: They've got this amazing half back a Tour that just

1357
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 13: orchestrates everything. They attack everything down the left and I

1358
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 13: think the Warriors really need to make sure that their

1359
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 13: defense is strong. Defense will win the game tonight. I

1360
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 13: don't know if they've got it, but I hope they do.

1361
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 13: Because Heather and Nikki there are several sides in this

1362
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 13: competition at the moment playing better than the Warriors, including

1363
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 13: the Storm, the Raiders, the Panthers, Dogs, the Broncos.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so lifty game is based out of the message.

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Speaker 8: Now tonight they lose tonight. I think they're out of

1366
01:01:58,000 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 8: the top four.

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Speaker 3: Them, which is what counts for me. NICKI do you

1368
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 3: want Bev who is now going to be coaching the

1369
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 3: Phoenix to cheap for us?

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Speaker 19: Loaded question?

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01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 3: Jome Canada against us? It's only fair, isn't it?

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Speaker 8: Look I look, all I can say is sometimes things

1373
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 8: work out in funny ways, isn't it?

1374
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 4: So?

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01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 8: Jrome Gate has actually worked in our favor? And Craichi

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01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 8: ev Priestman, you know what a sensationally gifted coach, and

1377
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 8: you know her track record is right there for all

1378
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 8: of us to witness. And you know, now we're the

1379
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 8: beneficiaries of that. You know, it might be an interesting circumstances,

1380
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 8: but we've got her. And what we've got now is

1381
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 8: we've got connections to you know, top class players, and

1382
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 8: she has those connections and they will come back and

1383
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 8: they will play for her, just like C. J.

1384
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 19: Bott is doing.

1385
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Speaker 8: And I think that it's fantastic for the Phoenix, and

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Speaker 8: I'm really looking forward to watching this one play out.

1387
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I am too. Hey, guys, thank you

1388
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 3: so much. Really, she had an enjoy a week in

1389
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 3: a sport. Lavina Good and Nicky Staris both sports Journalistshather,

1390
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 3: I agree with you. The ref got it right. Endless

1391
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 3: forensic examination of players ruining the game. Nine away from six.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather duper se Alan Drive Full Show podcast

1393
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 1: on my Ard Radio powered by News Talk zeb.

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Speaker 3: Heather, New World needs to be brought into line again.

1395
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 3: You need to check out the Smeg casserole dishes sold

1396
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 3: out and people are putting them on trade me Spotlight

1397
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 3: have a look alike, sixty dollars better quality, Alvin, thank you.

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01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 3: You know there's nothing I love more than a supermarket bargain. Well,

1399
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 3: there's the ones where you get the little stickers. But

1400
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 3: you cannot talk to me about the New World ones

1401
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 3: because my New World burned down, so I don't have

1402
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 3: any of this available to me. I am stuck, unfortunately

1403
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 3: getting those stupid little Disney discs from from I know

1404
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 3: it's a first world problem and I don't want to Laby.

1405
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 3: I don't want to lump you with my isscules, but

1406
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 3: I get those those Disney discs. And I came in

1407
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 3: with a pack of about seven hundred thousand tonight and

1408
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 3: I gave him to Ben from Sport. I said to him,

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01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 3: here you go for your children. My children don't need

1410
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 3: this stuff because I don't need cleaning up after them. Anyway.

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01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 3: Speaking of my children, do you know why I wasn't

1412
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 3: here yesterday. Let me tell you why I wasn't here yesterday.

1413
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 3: I meant to be here yesterday. So what happened was

1414
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 3: baby baby Mackay six months old. She had a bit

1415
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 3: of a cold. This story gets a lot better than this,

1416
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 3: trust me. Starting starting week, building up. You had a

1417
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 3: bit of a cold on Tuesday and Wednesday, and we thought, hmmm,

1418
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 3: like you're coughing a lot. It's not sounding good, little one.

1419
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 3: We're gonna I just said, I'm booking her into the doctor.

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01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 3: And her father said what he always said, which is

1421
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 3: she's fine, doesn't need to go to the doctor. I

1422
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 3: was like, okay, mate, just because you didn't have any

1423
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 3: doctors in Gore in the nineteen fifties doesn't mean our

1424
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 3: children have to grow up like that. So, you know,

1425
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 3: with the cold, rage blasting cold, smoke cold smoke at

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01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 3: their faces and stuff. So anyway, she went. He took

1427
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 3: her to the doctor said here's the money, go off.

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01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 3: You go then, and I was busy doing something else.

1429
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 3: Next minute he calls me and he goes, Hi, yeah,

1430
01:04:57,120 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 3: so we're going to Starship in an ambulance because her

1431
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 3: oxygen levels are too low. What happened as GP had

1432
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 3: done the little measure and they're supposed to be your

1433
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 3: oxygen level is supposed to be one hundred and if

1434
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 3: it's anything around about ninety two and below, they freak

1435
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 3: out a little bit if you're a baby. So she

1436
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 3: was sitting at ninety so they had her on like

1437
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 3: baby oxygen. And then that's why they had to get

1438
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 3: the aambo out because she had to stay on oxygen

1439
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 3: when she went in the ambo. Anyway, as as always

1440
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 3: as the case with children, the minute she got to hospital,

1441
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 3: she was like, Hi, Tricks, Yeah, I'm fine, and she

1442
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 3: started I'd packed them like I'd pack the bags for them,

1443
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 3: like they were staying the night in hospital, and I

1444
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 3: freaked out so badly. I took the day off work

1445
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 3: then as well. I had six bottles of formula and

1446
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 3: a chili bag. I had everything. She started smashing the mate.

1447
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 3: She was like, give me food, give me food, give

1448
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 3: me food. I'm hungry, laughing at the nurses. The nurse

1449
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 3: I think Liz, the head nurse, was like, you guys

1450
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 3: are taking the piss. Aren't you coming here? At the

1451
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 3: moment she had a nurse's strike. We don't need this

1452
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 3: kind of nonsense. Anyway, she came home, but I got

1453
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 3: to come to work. We were home at four o'clock,

1454
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:00,920
Speaker 3: weren't we. We were like the show starts at four,

1455
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 3: We're already home. She's fine, there's no problem at all.

1456
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 3: But anyway, that is what happened. And then the little

1457
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 3: guy who's three and a half was really jealous that

1458
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 3: she got to ride in an ambulance. So now we

1459
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 3: have to organize an ambulance ride. But fortunately I know

1460
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 3: some people who know some people about ambulances, so or

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01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 3: we could just break something, which is I think inevitably

1462
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 3: going to happen at some stage, not with my hands obviously. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: heither can you make Levina and Nikki the regular sport commentators?

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Speaker 3: That pretty good?

1465
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Speaker 2: Eh?

1466
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Speaker 3: We've got actually a good run of sport commentators. Can

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Speaker 3: I just tell you this year I was telling you

1468
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 3: about that embryo that got born this year, the one

1469
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 3: from nineteen ninety four that was frozen and then got

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Speaker 3: used this year. The debts obviously adopted parents, right like

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Speaker 3: the parents are using someone else's embryo. The guy who's

1472
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 3: the dad. Tim was three years old when that embryo

1473
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Speaker 3: was frozen. How amazing is that? Scott Jacoby on the

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Speaker 3: tariffs next.

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Speaker 21: Some made Tim and Middle.

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Speaker 1: We're Business meets Insight the Business Hour with Heather dupic

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Speaker 1: Allen and Mas for Trust at Home Insurance Solutions News.

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Speaker 19: Talk saidb.

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Speaker 3: Even in coming up in the next hour. So the

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01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 3: Taiwanese present was not a lot of President was not

1481
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:21,919
Speaker 3: allowed to stop over in New York? What was really

1482
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 3: going on? Peter Lewis on that Barry Sober will rap

1483
01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 3: the political week that was, and Gavin Gray is with

1484
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 3: us out of the UK at seven pass six. Now

1485
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:32,080
Speaker 3: international markets haven't wobbled too much in the wake of

1486
01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 3: the new tariffs. The AX and a few other Asian

1487
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 3: markets dipped, but mostly by less than a percent. Stephen

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Speaker 3: Jacobe is a former trade negotiator. Hey, Stephen, Hi, Heather,

1489
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 3: good to be with you. What's gone wrong for us?

1490
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 3: Do you think, Oh, I.

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Speaker 22: Think we're at the end on the receiving end of

1492
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:52,600
Speaker 22: a very large hammer that's coming down, and I don't

1493
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 22: think it's probably anything to do with us. It's most

1494
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 22: unfair and unjustified. You know, ten percent wasn't great. Fifteen

1495
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 22: percent is a lot worse actually, and we'll have to

1496
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 22: see what we can do to try and get out

1497
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Speaker 22: of it.

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01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 3: Why do you say it's a lot worse.

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Speaker 22: Well, because it's a much more material tariff in position.

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01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 22: You know, ten percent was at the lower end of

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01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 22: the scale. You know, a five percent tariff is probably

1502
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 22: neither here nor there. It's often taken out by exchange

1503
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 22: rate movements. But if you're talking about fifteen percent, you're

1504
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 22: getting into quite different territory. It's going to favor American

1505
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:33,719
Speaker 22: Americans over our you know, American producers over our ones.

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01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 22: And of course to the extent that other people in

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Speaker 22: the American market are getting better treatment than us, like Australia,

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01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:43,719
Speaker 22: like Chile, that's not good either. We have to compete

1509
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Speaker 22: with them as well.

1510
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Speaker 3: I mean, if you think about it, so the Americans

1511
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 3: have a ten dollars steak, our steak is now what

1512
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 3: eleven dollars fifty and an Australian steak is eleven dollars.

1513
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 3: Is there enough in that to make a consumer change

1514
01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:56,719
Speaker 3: their mind and change to a different product.

1515
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Speaker 22: Actually, in the case of the meat market the bet market,

1516
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:03,599
Speaker 22: probably not. Because the Americans eat a lot of beef

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01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 22: and there's a lot of you know, we've still got

1518
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 22: lots of opportunity. And of course the South Americans are

1519
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 22: all being charged even more, except Chile, but they're not

1520
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 22: a big exporter of beef to the United States. So yeah,

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01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 22: a lot of it depends on, you know, the market

1522
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 22: segment that you're in. But remember out this is it

1523
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 22: for US is now a fifteen percent additional tariff. So

1524
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 22: to the extent that there's a tariff existing already in

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01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:30,960
Speaker 22: the United States, like fifteen percent for butter, we're now

1526
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Speaker 22: paying thirty percent.

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Speaker 3: Ah okay, So this this has the potential to be

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01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 3: quite bad, then doesn't it?

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01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:38,680
Speaker 2: Oh? I think it does.

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Speaker 22: And you know, without wanting to you know, over dramatize,

1531
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 22: we have to see how it all works out. We

1532
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 22: know that a lot of exporter has been sharing the

1533
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 22: tariff burden with the importer. I mean, if the if

1534
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 22: they can pass it onto the consumer, that's fine.

1535
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 2: Well, not for the consumers, but better for us. Prices

1536
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 2: go up in the United States, it's not so good

1537
01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:57,600
Speaker 2: for Americans.

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Speaker 22: If we have to share it, well, that's a bit

1539
01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 22: of pain, But if we have to bear it, that's

1540
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 22: quite a lot of pain.

1541
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Speaker 3: Do you think, Stephen, that we should have changed the

1542
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Speaker 3: approach that we took, or perhaps we took the wrong approach.

1543
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:09,719
Speaker 3: I mean, it seemed to be that we were pretty

1544
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:12,759
Speaker 3: relaxed about it, or putting our head below the parapet

1545
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 3: maybe a combination of both. Should we have done what

1546
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:18,200
Speaker 3: Albanesi did and made concessions or what South Korea did

1547
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 3: and offered to buy things.

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Speaker 22: Well, of course South Korea did that, and it's still

1549
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 22: got a fifteen percent tariff.

1550
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Speaker 3: But it's down from twenty five, isn't it.

1551
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Speaker 2: Down twenty five? Yeah? I suppose so.

1552
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:30,880
Speaker 22: But look, I don't think there's much more we could

1553
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 22: have done. We just don't have enough to offer the

1554
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:35,599
Speaker 22: United States. What are we offering right now? We're offering

1555
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:39,919
Speaker 22: them already a market where we charge very very low tariffs.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 22: In the case of Australia, of course they're a free

1558
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 22: trade partner with the United States, they have a free

1559
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 22: trade agreement. It's not worth much these days, but the

1560
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 22: United States has, you know, a surplus with them, we

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01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 22: have a small deficit, So I mean, you know, I'm not.

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Speaker 2: Sure there's a lot that we could have done. The

1563
01:10:57,760 --> 01:10:59,560
Speaker 2: problem is we're already offering.

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Speaker 22: To the United States it's very advantage advantageous market access

1565
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:05,679
Speaker 22: conditions without asking for anything in return.

1566
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Speaker 2: So I just don't think there was a lot to

1567
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:09,799
Speaker 2: be negotiated myself.

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Speaker 3: What about Okay, so Todd mcclay's going to go to

1569
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:13,599
Speaker 3: them now and he's going to say to them, where

1570
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 3: about we will get ourselves into surplus for you because

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01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 3: we're going to buy a bunch of Boeings. Will that

1572
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 3: change their mind?

1573
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:20,679
Speaker 2: Well?

1574
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Speaker 22: Who knows when these settings are going to be evaluated,

1575
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 22: you know, And we don't even know if this is

1576
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 22: the last word on all of this. The difficulty with

1577
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 22: going back to the United States, of course, it's going

1578
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 22: to take a long time to do it, and a

1579
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 22: lot of other people are going to be wanting to

1580
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Speaker 22: do exactly the same thing. I mean, when you look

1581
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Speaker 22: at the range of countries that are now going to

1582
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:40,680
Speaker 22: play this fifteen percent tariff, you know, New Zealand's not

1583
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 22: quite in the same position as a lot of these

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Speaker 22: other ones, you know. And you know, we take a

1585
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:48,840
Speaker 22: country like Chile, a very fine country, but it hasn't

1586
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:51,799
Speaker 22: done a lot, you know, in terms of defense and security.

1587
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Speaker 22: Cooperation hasn't been there at the founding of the United

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01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 22: Nations and all.

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Speaker 2: These things like US. I don't really know why we

1590
01:11:57,479 --> 01:11:59,759
Speaker 2: should be treated so badly. Quite frankly, fair.

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Speaker 3: Points to even, thanks very much, Stephen Jacoby, former trade

1592
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 3: negotiated twelve past.

1593
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 1: Six ever due for c Allen.

1594
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 3: So apparently we're off the road tipline already in July

1595
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 3: it was down from June June it was six hundred

1596
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 3: and fourteen complaints on the road Cone Tipline July two

1597
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 3: hundred and seventeen. Good on your New Zealand good on

1598
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 3: you because I think we've all realized this is just

1599
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 3: bs and that thing is utterly pointless, and that's actually

1600
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 3: wasting our time and money that could be used for

1601
01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:31,680
Speaker 3: something better. Anyway, I much prefer what Chris Bishop has done,

1602
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 3: just withhold the money from the councils Now, Apple has

1603
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 3: reported sales and profit that have smashed market expectations in

1604
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 3: the third quarter they earned. This is New Zealand dollars

1605
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:45,599
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty five billion dollars in revenue. That's

1606
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 3: up ten percent on the same time in the previous year.

1607
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 3: Earnings per share two hundred and fifty nine. Oh what

1608
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 3: am I talking about? Two dollars fifty nine. That topped

1609
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:58,719
Speaker 3: expectations of three of two dollars thirty six. The reason

1610
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:02,639
Speaker 3: that this happened is it's seems Apple iPhone whatever, eighteen

1611
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:05,680
Speaker 3: whatever came out and people are buying it up on like,

1612
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 3: just snapping it up as much as they can, hoping

1613
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 3: to get it before the tariff's kicking. So the tariff's

1614
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:13,839
Speaker 3: worked in the favor of at least one one big company.

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Speaker 3: Six thirteen.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather dupas Allen Drive Full Show podcast on

1617
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:21,920
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1618
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Speaker 3: What was I just talking about? I was just talking

1619
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 3: about how ridiculous that road cone tip line is, wasn't I?

1620
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 3: And guess what just popped up on TVNZ, which I'm

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01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:33,600
Speaker 3: clearly not watching because I'm talking to you, Laura. The

1622
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 3: German told me what was on the thing has cost us,

1623
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:38,400
Speaker 3: which is pointless. Right, The whole thing is a charade.

1624
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:41,759
Speaker 3: It's pointless. It has cost US four hundred thousand dollars

1625
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:44,639
Speaker 3: for twelve months. That's the cost of a recruitment agency.

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01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 3: That includes the cost of a recruitment agency to hire

1627
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 3: two stuff. But here's the thing, the government's not tracking

1628
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 3: how many cones have been removed or dealt with. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna talk to Nikola about that on Monday. That's sale.

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01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:58,759
Speaker 3: She's got to kill that, doesn't she? Right now? Sixteen

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Speaker 3: past six Barry Soper, scene political correspondent, rapping the political

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Speaker 3: week that was Welcome back.

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Speaker 9: Barry, Hello again Heaven.

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Speaker 3: Do you think this FBI office is as bad as

1635
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:06,840
Speaker 3: the Greens think it is.

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01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:10,160
Speaker 9: One of the Greens would think anything's bad when it

1637
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:17,520
Speaker 9: comes to subterfuge, intellectual property, undermining the state.

1638
01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 3: The Americans in general, that's right.

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01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:23,120
Speaker 9: Well, the FBI is simply a crime fighting organization. But

1640
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:26,760
Speaker 9: I just wonder, and it's interesting that the Americans come here.

1641
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 9: They've been here since twenty seventeen anyway, they've had an

1642
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:35,400
Speaker 9: addendum to an office from Canberra in Wellington, so they

1643
01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 9: have had a presence here. But I just wonder whether

1644
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:41,640
Speaker 9: there would be a song and dance of China, for example,

1645
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:45,719
Speaker 9: opened their equivalent to the FBI. Is there a state

1646
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 9: security service if they opened an office here in this country,

1647
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:53,640
Speaker 9: what would we say about that? I think we'd be

1648
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 9: up in arms about it.

1649
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 3: For good reason. Well, for good reason.

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01:14:57,479 --> 01:15:00,960
Speaker 9: We've got forty billion dollars worth of with China, hang on,

1651
01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:04,679
Speaker 9: and we've got nine billion dollars trade with the US

1652
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:07,480
Speaker 9: and being penalized are by the USA.

1653
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 3: I get so bored of this equivalence. You know, there's

1654
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 3: no equivalents, right. We share the same values as the

1655
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 3: Americans in terms of our respect for the law and

1656
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 3: trading nation, yes, but in terms of respect for the

1657
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:21,640
Speaker 3: law and order process. Right, So we we generally US

1658
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 3: and the Americans take people to trial and if they're guilty,

1659
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 3: we chuck them in jail. It's not the same in China, right,

1660
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 3: where people just get chucked in jail for all kinds

1661
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 3: of stuff in China and disappeared and stuff like that.

1662
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Speaker 9: So it's I understand, it's a different argument.

1663
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 3: That's not the same.

1664
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 9: That's you're arguing a different argument. I would say that,

1665
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:43,719
Speaker 9: you know, we've got to treat China with some respect,

1666
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:46,439
Speaker 9: but we do well, we should do as well. That's

1667
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:47,600
Speaker 9: the only point that I'm trying to.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you. Yeah, yeah, anyway, we'll move on.

1669
01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 3: Do you what do you think of Kwebank being partially privatized.

1670
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:56,880
Speaker 9: I think it's a great thing.

1671
01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:58,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think that.

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01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 9: You know, I've got this minnow bank, which is which

1673
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 9: is what it is compared to the four big Australian banks,

1674
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 9: and under capitalization has always hampered a Kiwi Bank in

1675
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:13,240
Speaker 9: operating in any sort of competition to the biggest banks.

1676
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 3: Sort of only be the start, right that it's only

1677
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 3: five hundred million, They've got to do more than that.

1678
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:20,840
Speaker 9: It definitely will be the start and the capital of

1679
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:24,320
Speaker 9: Kiwi Group Capital is the company that runs Kiwi Bank,

1680
01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:27,719
Speaker 9: and it's cheered by David McLain. Now he's a former

1681
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:32,160
Speaker 9: Westpank WISPAC CEO and you've met him. I've met him

1682
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:35,000
Speaker 9: on a number of occasions. Good bloke, and you know

1683
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 9: it would be interesting, wouldn't it, because he would have

1684
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:41,800
Speaker 9: a very good insight into the workings of Westpac obviously,

1685
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:45,640
Speaker 9: and west Pac happens to be and it has been

1686
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:49,840
Speaker 9: since nineteen eighty nine, the Government's banker. Now Kiwi Bank

1687
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:52,720
Speaker 9: would have to grow much larger if it's going to

1688
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 9: take that role. But who knows that further down the prack,

1689
01:16:56,680 --> 01:17:00,639
Speaker 9: further down the track, that a bank that is owned

1690
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 9: by New Zealanders doing the government's business would make much

1691
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:07,879
Speaker 9: more CeNSE to me than sending profits off shore.

1692
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 3: To the Australian would It would be nice if they

1693
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 3: could be big enough to do that exactly.

1694
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 4: Now.

1695
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:13,920
Speaker 3: I bumped into a former MP on my kindy run

1696
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 3: the other day and this person said to me that

1697
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 3: we will not attract any better quality of board director

1698
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 3: for the Crown Entities because we raise the value of what.

1699
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:27,439
Speaker 9: Has he had any board appointments, though I know exactly

1700
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:27,720
Speaker 9: he is.

1701
01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 3: He's on a number of boards. Okay, that's good, And

1702
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:32,679
Speaker 3: he was like, changing the value that they get paid.

1703
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:33,719
Speaker 3: It's not going to make a difference.

1704
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 9: Well, it probably when it comes to recruitment, it probably

1705
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:41,720
Speaker 9: would make it a little easier because with a go though,

1706
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:44,160
Speaker 9: isn't it most certainly is worth a goo you pay

1707
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 9: pen out, you get monkeys. And you only have to

1708
01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 9: look at a number of boards where ethnicity, where gender balance,

1709
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:57,680
Speaker 9: where all those other issues were taken into account as

1710
01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 9: much as and board members should be based on merit,

1711
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 9: not on what When the Labor Government was in power,

1712
01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:08,760
Speaker 9: they were appointing their mates to various boards and they

1713
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:10,680
Speaker 9: didn't really have a great deal of effect as we've

1714
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 9: seen since. So I think if we can pay them

1715
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 9: a bit more, you may attract a bit better of

1716
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:19,800
Speaker 9: a caliber of person to serve on these boards. And

1717
01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:21,559
Speaker 9: these are multimillion dollar companies.

1718
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:23,920
Speaker 3: Do you think that now that the voting rules have

1719
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:25,639
Speaker 3: gone off to select Comittee, when they come back, they'll

1720
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 3: have changed.

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Speaker 9: Well, the voting rules, Oh no, they won't. I know

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01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:36,519
Speaker 9: we're onto the electoral reform. No, I think they'll go

1723
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:39,800
Speaker 9: through as they are. I mean, it's a government back bill,

1724
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:44,759
Speaker 9: so it'll certainly be you'll find thirteen days in advance

1725
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:47,800
Speaker 9: of an election you'll have to become enrolled. And I

1726
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:50,320
Speaker 9: think that's a good thing because what it means is

1727
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:55,160
Speaker 9: we've got enough problem with coalition governments being formed in

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01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:58,880
Speaker 9: this country. The sooner that we can have the vote counted,

1729
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:02,600
Speaker 9: the better It'll be, not just for the coalition negotiations,

1730
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:05,280
Speaker 9: but for the public of New Zealand who went out

1731
01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:08,280
Speaker 9: and voted in good faith. They know that their vote

1732
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:11,639
Speaker 9: was counted and can be counted relatively quickly.

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Speaker 3: Right, Hey, Barry, thanks very much. Barry so for Senior

1734
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 3: political correspondent, rapping the political week that was. By the way,

1735
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 3: new chair has been announced for the Warehouse Group today.

1736
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:22,200
Speaker 3: It's John Journey, who has previously been a board director

1737
01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:24,240
Speaker 3: but then took over as the interim CEO when they

1738
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:27,599
Speaker 3: get rid of the other one. It's done a reasonable

1739
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 3: job actually apparently of at least appearing to turn the

1740
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 3: Warehouse Group around. He's now going to become the chair

1741
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:35,720
Speaker 3: and he'll be replacing Joan Withers when she steps off

1742
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:37,439
Speaker 3: that position in November six twenty two.

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Speaker 1: Approaching the numbers and getting the results, it's hither due

1744
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:44,680
Speaker 1: for Cea Ellen with the Business Hour and MAZ for

1745
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:48,480
Speaker 1: Trusted Home Insurance Solutions newstalksb.

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01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:50,680
Speaker 3: Come on, Barry. A reason the FBI are here is

1747
01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 3: because the c P are already here, which is a

1748
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:55,360
Speaker 3: fair point. Listen, I don't want to do any victim

1749
01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:57,639
Speaker 3: blaming here. Well, first of all, let me not get

1750
01:19:57,640 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 3: ahead of myself. Are you as surprised as I am

1751
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:04,559
Speaker 3: that in New Zealand's new CEO has drawn racist backlash online?

1752
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:09,720
Speaker 3: I'm genuinely really surprised by this. Right because Nicol Ravashank,

1753
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:15,479
Speaker 3: obviously of Indian descent. Apparently the Herald and arn Z

1754
01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:19,240
Speaker 3: and one News all had to turn off their ability

1755
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:20,679
Speaker 3: for you to comment at the bottom of the page

1756
01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:22,479
Speaker 3: and stuff like that. Whether it's on Facebook or whatever

1757
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:23,960
Speaker 3: it is, I don't really know, but they had to

1758
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 3: turn that ability off because there were that many racist

1759
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:31,080
Speaker 3: comments coming through, which I just find unbelievable that anybody

1760
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:33,559
Speaker 3: would be that gross. But then apparently Laura and them

1761
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 3: are telling me because I don't deal with that kind

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01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:36,720
Speaker 3: of nonsense. I don't even have my social media, they

1763
01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:38,639
Speaker 3: were saying to me, I'd only takes about three comments

1764
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:40,800
Speaker 3: per perse per post, and then they're turning it off.

1765
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 3: But even then, so what is there nine people in

1766
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:45,439
Speaker 3: this country who thought, you know what I need, I

1767
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:47,439
Speaker 3: need to have a crack at his ethnicity. That's weird,

1768
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 3: isn't it. That's a really weird thing to do because

1769
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:51,680
Speaker 3: you don't know, he might actually be awesome at his job,

1770
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:54,000
Speaker 3: and so what's it got to do with it? In fact,

1771
01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 3: and regardless, he might be shit at his job, but

1772
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:57,759
Speaker 3: it's still got nothing to do with it. But anyway,

1773
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:00,840
Speaker 3: I don't want a victim blame. But this is slightly

1774
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:03,680
Speaker 3: any New Zealand problem right here. Because have you met

1775
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 3: rat Nicol since he was No, you haven't white because

1776
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 3: in New Zealand announced the new CEO, and instead of

1777
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:12,679
Speaker 3: like trotting him out proudly and talking about how awesome

1778
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 3: he is, they just didn't let anybody talk to them. Now,

1779
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:16,640
Speaker 3: had he gone out and talked about how awesome he

1780
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:18,560
Speaker 3: is and how great, how happy he was to have

1781
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 3: the job, we'd all be talking about that. Not we

1782
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:24,479
Speaker 3: wouldn't have enough time to be going and having a

1783
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 3: look at the comments and the fact that they'd been disabled.

1784
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:28,080
Speaker 3: So maybe in New Zealand wants to think about that.

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01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 3: Bring him out. It's ever chat, dem it sounds cool.

1786
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:31,839
Speaker 3: Twenty seven past six.

1787
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:34,439
Speaker 1: Ever do for Cee Ellen.

1788
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:36,000
Speaker 3: Here's your show, Buz News.

1789
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 1: You'll know what that is.

1790
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:46,000
Speaker 3: If you know what that is. Terrible news for people

1791
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:48,559
Speaker 3: who like handsome men. Because Jason Wilmore has shaved off

1792
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:51,360
Speaker 3: his beard for the first time in six years. It

1793
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 3: is devastating some of the people in this office. And

1794
01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 3: he is apparently not a fan either.

1795
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:00,439
Speaker 7: Yeah, damn it, I hate it.

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01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 16: Oh man.

1797
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 3: Why he's done it is because because of this. Yeah,

1798
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 3: he's shooting the next June movie and this is the

1799
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:18,959
Speaker 3: franchise which is set on the desert with Timothy Schallamy.

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01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 3: And in the third installment he's going to be playing

1801
01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:23,320
Speaker 3: a half android, half clone version of Dunk and Idaho,

1802
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 3: his character from the first film. And apparently you know

1803
01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:27,120
Speaker 3: you don't want a beard for that.

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01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:27,720
Speaker 19: Now.

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Speaker 3: I think he's being hard on himself because he's got

1806
01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:32,160
Speaker 3: a very minus the beard, He's got a very like

1807
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:34,760
Speaker 3: Hemsworth look about him. He looks very similar to the

1808
01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:37,680
Speaker 3: Hemsworth boys, and that's not ugly. I think we can

1809
01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:42,679
Speaker 3: all agree. I mean, he's lost the kind of wild

1810
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 3: rider look that he had going on, you know, but

1811
01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:48,320
Speaker 3: Hemsworth look is good. Plus also, he's not gonna smell

1812
01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:52,439
Speaker 3: like old Beard and sour milk, which is great.

1813
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Speaker 4: Isn't that?

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Speaker 3: Peter lewis out of Asia.

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Speaker 1: Next, whether it's Macro Microbe or just playing economics, it's

1816
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:07,120
Speaker 1: all on the Business Hour with Heather Duplicy, Allen and

1817
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 1: maz for Trusted Home Insurance Solutions, Use Talks.

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Speaker 3: Be sorry that yard.

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01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:17,840
Speaker 4: Is gatty.

1820
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:19,519
Speaker 3: Gray's going to be with us in ten minutes time.

1821
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:21,280
Speaker 3: Getting load of this? Okay. There is a Footsie one

1822
01:23:21,400 --> 01:23:29,200
Speaker 3: hundred company called Games Workshop, famous for coming up with Warhanner,

1823
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:33,719
Speaker 3: the tabletop game. They want to expand. They can't expand

1824
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:35,640
Speaker 3: because they've got very similar problems to the kind of

1825
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:37,320
Speaker 3: problems that we have in New Zealand. There's a bat.

1826
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:39,519
Speaker 3: There is a bat living there. They want to build

1827
01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:41,240
Speaker 3: a new car park, but they can't because this bat,

1828
01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:44,800
Speaker 3: called the Pippy Strail microbat, has been found on the

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01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:46,760
Speaker 3: site and the bat is protected by law, and so

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01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:50,080
Speaker 3: we don't know what they're going to do. Twenty four

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01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:53,880
Speaker 3: away from seven Heather Duplessy Allen Peter Lewis Asia Business

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01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:57,680
Speaker 3: Correspondence with US. Hello, Peter, how do your part of

1833
01:23:57,720 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 3: the world go with Trump and his tariffs?

1834
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 19: Well?

1835
01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:02,320
Speaker 2: Not too bad.

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Speaker 23: I mean, if you look around the region, the two

1837
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:09,880
Speaker 23: big economies that have got confirmed deals, Japan and South Korea,

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01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:13,479
Speaker 23: have both come out of it quite well. They've got

1839
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:17,800
Speaker 23: tariff rates of fifteen percent compared to the twenty five

1840
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:21,800
Speaker 23: percent that has been threatened, and that includes cars as well.

1841
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:24,599
Speaker 23: Now that's a big win for both those countries because

1842
01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:27,720
Speaker 23: the auto sector is a very big part of their

1843
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 23: economy and everyone else seems to be paying about twenty

1844
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 23: five percent on cars. There are some disputes though, as

1845
01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:37,639
Speaker 23: always with a Trump agreement is once you walk away,

1846
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:42,160
Speaker 23: what did you exactly agree? In Japan and Trump in

1847
01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 23: particular are disputing this five hundred and fifty billion dollar

1848
01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:49,080
Speaker 23: fund that Trump has said is basically free money that's

1849
01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:52,840
Speaker 23: going to be given to them. Japan says it's an

1850
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:56,080
Speaker 23: investment fund and only one percent of that is actually

1851
01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 23: going to be investment. The rest is going to be loans.

1852
01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:02,639
Speaker 23: And nevertheless they gone agreement. If you look at Southeast Asia,

1853
01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:08,439
Speaker 23: it's around twenty percent, Vietnam's twenty percent, Philippines nineteen percent,

1854
01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:13,760
Speaker 23: Indonesia is nineteen percent as well, so not too bad

1855
01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:17,320
Speaker 23: there either. The only thing is is this thing about transhipments.

1856
01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:20,760
Speaker 23: In other words, products that go to America but don't

1857
01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:25,280
Speaker 23: actually originate from those countries. They are believed to come

1858
01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:28,759
Speaker 23: mainly from China. They're going to get taxed at forty percent.

1859
01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:33,679
Speaker 23: So so far, so good, but there are three big

1860
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 23: economies that are missing. First of all, China. Now China

1861
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:41,920
Speaker 23: had tariffs put on it at one hundred and forty

1862
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:44,840
Speaker 23: five percent, and then you may remember back a couple

1863
01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:47,559
Speaker 23: of months ago in Geneva, they agreed to reduce them

1864
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:51,840
Speaker 23: down to thirty while they talked about a trade deal. Now,

1865
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:56,240
Speaker 23: that agreement ends on August the twelfth, and so far

1866
01:25:57,040 --> 01:26:00,240
Speaker 23: there's been no sign or there's been no confirmation that

1867
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:03,280
Speaker 23: that agreement is going to get extended. That suspension is

1868
01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:06,439
Speaker 23: going to be suspended. Further now, it's reported that China

1869
01:26:06,479 --> 01:26:09,479
Speaker 23: would like it to be extended, and it's going to

1870
01:26:09,520 --> 01:26:13,240
Speaker 23: be decided by Donald Trump. It seems inconceivable somehow that

1871
01:26:13,320 --> 01:26:17,000
Speaker 23: he won't extend that agreement to give more time for

1872
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:19,840
Speaker 23: talks to go on. So if he doesn't get a

1873
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:24,160
Speaker 23: deal with China, that's a major negative because it would

1874
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 23: be a huge block that's missing from these agreements. Secondly,

1875
01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:33,839
Speaker 23: there is India, and this appears to have gone extraordinarily badly.

1876
01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:36,519
Speaker 23: In the last couple of days, it looked like they

1877
01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:41,439
Speaker 23: were working towards a deal, and then suddenly Donald Trump

1878
01:26:41,479 --> 01:26:43,880
Speaker 23: announced that he was going to slap twenty five percent

1879
01:26:44,040 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 23: tariffs on India plus a penalty as punishment for buying

1880
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:53,360
Speaker 23: weapons and oil from Russia. He didn't say what that

1881
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:57,800
Speaker 23: penalty was, although he has seemed to have indicated that

1882
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:02,599
Speaker 23: the talks are ongoing. But then on Thursday, he basically

1883
01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:05,760
Speaker 23: described India as being a dead economy. He said, I

1884
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:09,680
Speaker 23: don't care what India and Russia do together. Their economies

1885
01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 23: are dead, they have the highest tariffs in the world,

1886
01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:15,840
Speaker 23: and we don't do any business with India anyway. So

1887
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:19,160
Speaker 23: Indian officials are quite shocked at hearing this, and it

1888
01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:22,400
Speaker 23: raises a big question mark about where do those talks

1889
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:26,400
Speaker 23: go to from here, and it really backs Mody into

1890
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:29,519
Speaker 23: a corner. The other one that was missing was Taiwan,

1891
01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 23: obviously a big economy because of semiconductors. We've heard from

1892
01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:37,960
Speaker 23: the White House that that's going to be at twenty percent.

1893
01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:42,360
Speaker 23: Taiwan's disappointed with that because it's higher than countries like

1894
01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:47,360
Speaker 23: Japan and South Korea, and no word on what will

1895
01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:51,200
Speaker 23: happen to semiconductors, which of course is their biggest export.

1896
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:55,200
Speaker 23: So when you put them all together, maybe a mixed picture,

1897
01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:58,920
Speaker 23: and it really depends upon what happens with China and India.

1898
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:00,720
Speaker 3: Why do you think, what does that The markets have

1899
01:28:00,840 --> 01:28:01,880
Speaker 3: largely shrugged us off.

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01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:06,519
Speaker 2: I think they're being rather complacent to shrug it off.

1901
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 23: I think they're looking at this could have been worse,

1902
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:12,840
Speaker 23: and it shows maybe how far our ambitions have sunk.

1903
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:16,280
Speaker 23: Because if you go back to before Donald Trump was

1904
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:20,000
Speaker 23: elected for his second term, US tariffs were about one percent.

1905
01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:24,479
Speaker 23: Now the average tariff rate is about twenty percent. But

1906
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:26,760
Speaker 23: markets are cheering because they thought it could have been

1907
01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:30,519
Speaker 23: thirty or forty percent. Even so, I think they are

1908
01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:34,960
Speaker 23: being extraordinarily complacent because we haven't seen what the long

1909
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:38,800
Speaker 23: term impact of this is yet. What does it mean,

1910
01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:42,200
Speaker 23: for example, for inflation. You would think that all these

1911
01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:46,040
Speaker 23: tarts are going to be inflationary and drive up consumer

1912
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:49,920
Speaker 23: prices in the US, although we haven't really seen that

1913
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:53,200
Speaker 23: happen so far. But that's partly because you know, a

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01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:55,439
Speaker 23: lot of the time these tarifts have been suspended, they

1915
01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:58,880
Speaker 23: haven't actually gone into effect, and that's given a chance

1916
01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:03,080
Speaker 23: for export to rush products over to the US before

1917
01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:06,560
Speaker 23: the tariffs take effect. And we also haven't seen the

1918
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:10,280
Speaker 23: impact on these economies either. You would think that tarots

1919
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 23: of twenty percent are getting close to being recessionary for

1920
01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:19,600
Speaker 23: some countries, particularly countries like Japan for example, and we

1921
01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:22,800
Speaker 23: need to see the impact of that as well. So

1922
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:25,879
Speaker 23: we still need time to see the long term impact

1923
01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:27,240
Speaker 23: of all of these tariff rates.

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01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:29,240
Speaker 3: Good to talk to you, Peter, as always, Thank you

1925
01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:34,599
Speaker 3: so much. Peter lewis our Asia Business correspondent. IF twenty

1926
01:29:34,640 --> 01:29:37,519
Speaker 3: percent is close to recessionary? What does that put our

1927
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:41,439
Speaker 3: fifteen percent today? That kind of puts a bit of perspective,

1928
01:29:41,479 --> 01:29:42,439
Speaker 3: isn't It's not that great?

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Speaker 12: Is it?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 3: Does this surprise you? This I find? I mean, I'm happy,

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Speaker 3: but I'm surprised. There are about eleven hundred people in

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Speaker 3: this country one thousand. Well, no, it's fifteen hundred, fifteen

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Speaker 3: hundred people in this country who have portfolios on Charez's

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Speaker 3: with more than one million dollars invested. Does that surprise you?

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Speaker 3: Because I was under the impression that Chearsy's was kind

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Speaker 3: of like, oh, you know, you'd be dornt, like you're

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Speaker 3: trading a couple of hundi here and there. Maybe if

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Speaker 3: you're bit of a baller, you've got a few tens

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Speaker 3: of thousands in if you've got a million in your

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Speaker 3: Chaze's account, Why haven't you got a broker? Why are

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Speaker 3: you doing this yourself? How do you know enough to

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Speaker 3: do this? How do you trust yourself?

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Speaker 9: All of this?

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Speaker 3: All of these questions? I have all of these questions, Well.

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Speaker 7: Hang on, hither are you saying that your SkyTV shares

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Speaker 7: are not with a million dollars?

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Speaker 3: They were? And then some things happened. Fewer than a

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Speaker 3: hundred of these include KIW Saver. Just in case you think, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 3: but that's that'll be because you did. No, it's not.

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Speaker 3: This is just ballers putting all their money in Chares's anyway.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm stoked. I'm stoked for these people. I

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Speaker 3: really am. I just am wild. My mind is blown,

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Speaker 3: as you can hear it right now. You can literally

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Speaker 3: hear my mind blowing over the fact that somebody trusts

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Speaker 3: themselves enough to be investing in things anyway. They're investing

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Speaker 3: in decent things directly in companies like Tesla, Rocket Lab, Nvideo,

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Speaker 3: Infertil Zero, Meridian, Ryman, Air New Zealand's that's not a

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Speaker 3: good idea, and Fonterra is not a good idea because

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Speaker 3: you know what you've seen what happened to Air New Zealand,

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Speaker 3: the COVID and then. But anyway, regardless, well done you

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Speaker 3: and yeah pimping move sixteen away from seven everything.

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Speaker 1: From SMEs to the big corporates, The Business Hour with

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Speaker 1: Heather two for c Ellen and MAS for Trusted Home

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Speaker 1: Insurance Solutions, News.

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Speaker 3: Talks end be so hither What actually is our terriff

1967
01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:41,280
Speaker 3: is a ten plus fifteen or is it fifteen percent?

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Speaker 3: It's fifteen percent, but it's fifteen percent. Remember on top

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Speaker 3: of water was already there. So for example, I think

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Speaker 3: by memory, our beef was getting about zero point four

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Speaker 3: percent going into the UK, So now it's fifteen point

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Speaker 3: four percent as opposed to what Australia was getting, which

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Speaker 3: is zero percent plus ten percent. Therefore they are at

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Speaker 3: ten percent, so it's significantly higher. Now is thirteen away

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Speaker 3: from seven? And Devin Gray, our UK correspondent, is with

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Speaker 3: us even in Geven either had that. So why is

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Speaker 3: this terrorist going to get out of the Slemmer?

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Speaker 21: Yeah, there are reports, they haven't been confirmed by the

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Speaker 21: government that a man who has freely admitted that he

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Speaker 21: is a terrorist and has confessed to his role in

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Speaker 21: the London seventh of July bombings and September eleventh attack

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Speaker 21: could be freed from prison within days. And that's because

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Speaker 21: back in twenty fifteen in the US he was jailed

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Speaker 21: for twenty years having admitted trying to start a terrorist

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Speaker 21: training camp in Oregon. He was never tried for being

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Speaker 21: part of these other plots in London and New York. Now,

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Speaker 21: although he was originally jailed in America. He was then

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Speaker 21: transferred back here to the UK, which is where he

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Speaker 21: was born in Yorkshire and is currently undergoing a treatment

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Speaker 21: at a medical mental health institute. And it's reported that

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Speaker 21: because of the serving half your time and on good behavior,

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Speaker 21: you can be released from prison. The sort of mentality,

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Speaker 21: it's quite possible now. We believe he could be released

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Speaker 21: in a number of days. Indeed, recently in a High

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Speaker 21: Court judgment, a judge said there was evidence of an

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Speaker 21: ongoing risk, but said that although he must be subject

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Speaker 21: to what's called a notification order, he won't be given

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Speaker 21: as full sort of security check, and that is because

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Speaker 21: he's coming from a mental health institute, not a prison,

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Speaker 21: and believes that therefore he could be released in the

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Speaker 21: near future. Is the phrase the relatively near future.

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Speaker 4: So big concern that this.

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Speaker 21: Man, fifty year old Harun Aswat, who's plainly somebody that

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Speaker 21: the authorities are interested in both here and America, still

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01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:46,400
Speaker 21: could be released in a matter of days and only

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Speaker 21: subject to this so called notification order, which means he

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01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:53,040
Speaker 21: has to tell the police about information and keep them

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Speaker 21: up to date like where he is, foreign travel details

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Speaker 21: and vehicle registration.

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Speaker 3: Gevin this chep who's been a recent on suspicion of

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Speaker 3: the kids.

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Speaker 21: Are the kids Okay, yes they are, but they were

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Speaker 21: in hospital for a check up. The details about this

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Speaker 21: are still actually rather sketchy. Heather, It's absolutely bizarre that

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Speaker 21: the seventy six year old man basically was somebody that

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Speaker 21: the police were interested in after a number of children

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Speaker 21: fell ill at a summer camp for children in Leicestershire

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Speaker 21: in the Midlands. They received a report. The police received

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Speaker 21: this report from a third party about children feeling unwell

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Speaker 21: in the lodge and the force did not attend however,

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Speaker 21: until the next day. They've come in for criticism about that.

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Speaker 21: Police said the officers went there, the children were checked over,

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Speaker 21: eight taken the hospital as a precaution. Since being discharged,

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Speaker 21: the man was arrested at a pub the evening and

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Speaker 21: remains in custody and detained on suspicion of administering poison

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Speaker 21: or a noxious thing with intent to injure, aggrieve or annoy.

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Speaker 21: We don't know what the alleged poison is. As it were,

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Speaker 21: we don't know any more details really about the incident.

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Speaker 21: But as you can imagine, if people were stunned.

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Speaker 3: By this, hey have you heard about this bet.

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Speaker 21: Yes, so yeah, I'm afraid. Here in the UK we

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Speaker 21: love our bats. They've even held up the HS two project,

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Speaker 21: the biggest infrastructure project of its kind, and they had

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Speaker 21: to create a one hundred million pound one kilometer long

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Speaker 21: bat tunnel because the new high speed railway was cutting

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Speaker 21: through woods where these bats were very very well populated.

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Speaker 21: Now we're hearing that a Footsy one hundred company that

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Speaker 21: they make the Warhammer game Games Workshop they're called, was

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Speaker 21: getting organized to build on a plot of land where

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Speaker 21: it would planned to build a temporary car park. The

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Speaker 21: sighting of a single bat, the common pipistol bat, one

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Speaker 21: of the UK smallest bat species, has been discovered on

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Speaker 21: the plot and therefore they're taying that due to legal

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Speaker 21: protection surrounding bats and their habitats, ecological protocols must be

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Speaker 21: followed before any construction can proceed. And this huge FOOTSAE

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Speaker 21: one hundred companies being told uh uh no more building

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Speaker 21: at a moment, stop what you're doing, we need to

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Speaker 21: analyze the bats.

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Speaker 3: Wow, the world goes crazy. Thank you, Gavin, appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Gavin Grat, UK correspondent hither Off started it now, haven't I?

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Speaker 3: Heather I've had a few thousand and sheerries for Chazy's

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Speaker 3: for around two years, currently earning twenty six percent, never

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01:36:21,520 --> 01:36:25,439
Speaker 3: gone below sixteen percent. Cheers Jim. Hither I use Chazy's,

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Speaker 3: we will be the mass that controls how shares will

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01:36:27,680 --> 01:36:32,759
Speaker 3: be allocated in the future. Institutional investment vehicles will be obsolete.

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Speaker 3: End comms. That is how Richard signed off that text

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Speaker 3: end Comm's Nine away from seven.

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Speaker 2: It's the Heather Too.

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Speaker 1: P c Allen Drive Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by newstalk ZEBBI.

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Speaker 3: Have you ever wanted to eat like Princess Diana? Six

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Speaker 3: away from seven? If you've ever wanted to eat like

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Speaker 3: Princess Diana, you can now because her former personal chef,

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Speaker 3: Darren McGrady, has a YouTube channel and he's got four

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Speaker 3: hundred thousand subscribe so he's pretty popular. He knows what

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Speaker 3: he's doing. He's revealed that Die's favorite breakfast was overnight oats.

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Speaker 24: It's rich in fiber and perfect for breakfast every morning.

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Speaker 6: Hot.

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Speaker 24: But when you actually have them cold with a little

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Speaker 24: liquid over them, and they're steeped overnight, and then you

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Speaker 24: add all these ingredients there too, it just takes them

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Speaker 24: to the next level, and all these individual nutrients going

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Speaker 24: into the breakfast dish make it amazing.

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Speaker 3: She discovered overnight oats back in the nineties before they

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Speaker 3: were cool, and she first had the dish on a

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Speaker 3: trip to Switzerland, back when it was called birch Amusley

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Speaker 3: and mcgrady's oats are made from oats, orange juice, Greek yogurt,

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Speaker 3: raw honey, cinnamon, lemon juice, fresh blueberries, toasted walnuts.

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Speaker 24: Now I have to admit that when I was making

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Speaker 24: this it comes in the Palace for Princess Diana. It

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Speaker 24: was so good I actually used to double the recipe

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Speaker 24: so that the chef got it for breakfast too.

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Speaker 3: He's written a cookbook it's called Eating Royally Recipes and

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Speaker 3: Remembrances from a Palace Kitchen. And if you want to

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Speaker 3: don't buy it for yourself, get somebody else to buy

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01:38:08,640 --> 01:38:10,960
Speaker 3: it for your one hundred and eighty five dollars on Amazon.

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Speaker 3: Can I tell you something I make a habit. It

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01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:17,519
Speaker 3: would appear of finding ways to make myself look stupid

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Speaker 3: on the radio, which is fine. I mean most people

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Speaker 3: just look stupid in front of few people. I look

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01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:24,679
Speaker 3: stupid in front of like one hundred thousand plus people.

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Speaker 3: That's okay, I'm okay with it. You already know it

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Speaker 3: by now as I do it all the time. I

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Speaker 3: did not know until today that overnight Oats is Bircher Musley.

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Speaker 3: That's what I didn't know. I call it Burcher musically,

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Speaker 3: and I love Bircher Musley. And all the people have

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Speaker 3: talked about the overnight Oats and I was like, I've

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Speaker 3: no idea what you're talking about. It sounds disgusting because

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Speaker 3: oats is disgusting and porridge is disgusting, and I thought

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Speaker 3: that's what they're doing. But now for today, at the

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Speaker 3: age of geez, I'm nearly forty one, I've just figured

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Speaker 3: out that overnight Oats is Bircher music and it's yumious.

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Speaker 19: Ends.

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Speaker 7: I tell you what, if I lived in Kensington Palace,

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Speaker 7: I would be having a fulling breakfast every morning and

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Speaker 7: I would be the size of a house.

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Speaker 3: I would You would not. You would not because I

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Speaker 3: have watched you eat and you do not put on weight.

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Speaker 3: You have TOPHI I have what top, what's to thin? Outside?

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Speaker 2: Fat?

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Speaker 3: Inside?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you're right, so I went to my inside would

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Speaker 7: have just collapsed now.

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Speaker 3: And inside the fat. But you still look like like

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Speaker 3: a like a model.

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Speaker 7: Oh thank you that we're all very good looking on

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Speaker 7: this show. You can't see us obviously not giving in

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Speaker 7: by Rudimental to play us out tonight. Rudimental are going

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Speaker 7: to be headlining the Currents Festival in Topor at the

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Speaker 7: end of December. It will be on December twenty eighth.

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Speaker 7: It will be them, Lime, Cordy l Chaos and the

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Speaker 7: CBD and Chromeo are the big games there. Seconds go

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Speaker 7: on sale next week.

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Speaker 3: You didn't want to end with Katie Perry.

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01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:41,720
Speaker 7: No, I think we've ended with Katy Perry enough for

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Speaker 7: me this year, to.

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Speaker 3: Be honest, because you know why, because well, she was

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Speaker 3: on the date with Justin the other day and then

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01:39:48,400 --> 01:39:49,800
Speaker 3: Justin went to her show and he was in the

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Speaker 3: front row.

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Speaker 7: Oh confirmed, and he took his daughter. Well unless that

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01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:56,680
Speaker 7: maybe maybe they're not dating. Maybe he just took her

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Speaker 7: out for dinner so he could get a front row seat.

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Speaker 3: It's just true. Do Yeah, I just feel like Justin Justin.

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Speaker 3: I feel like Justin is one of those guys. If

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Speaker 3: you see a woman with Justin you need to know, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they've been there, They've done it, They've done it. I

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Speaker 3: think Katie and haven't done it anyway. See you on Monday.

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