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Speaker 1: The All Blacks are facing England that took in him

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Speaker 1: this weekend and the team was named overnight Boden Barrett

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Speaker 1: back in the number ten Jersey. Largely different squad, completely

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Speaker 1: changed other than three players basically from the team that

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Speaker 1: we played against Japan. Tony Johnson's rugby commentators with US

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Speaker 1: Life this morning, Tony, good morning.

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Speaker 2: To you morning. Right.

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Speaker 1: A couple of things to whip through. First of all,

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Speaker 1: that number ten significant.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is because mcdamien McKenzie's been giving a fairly

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Speaker 2: long leash this year. He's just been a bit too erratic,

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Speaker 2: brilliant at his best, but just tended to be I

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Speaker 2: think almost part of this the All Blacks sort of

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Speaker 2: falling off the cliff a little bit in the second

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Speaker 2: half as they've been doing Barrett. I don't think it

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Speaker 2: was their original intention to go back to him, but

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Speaker 2: his experience will be invaluable, perhaps just a little more consistent,

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Speaker 2: and so they put him together with his brother, so

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Speaker 2: it's a key thing. The other one, too, is half back.

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Speaker 2: I think we expected TJ. Peterinader perhaps with his experience,

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Speaker 2: to be part of the max. It's been quite bold.

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Speaker 2: They start with Royguard Sorry they start with Atima royguard

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Speaker 2: off the bench. I think that's a really great move,

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Speaker 2: and you know there's a couple of other selections there.

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Speaker 2: I suspect Ethan the group might be injured. Otherwise he

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Speaker 2: would have been in the front row.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to answer about that. Is that

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Speaker 1: nothing nefarious off the field?

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. I presume it's some sort

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Speaker 2: of injury thing. I haven't seen the comments around it.

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Speaker 2: I've just seen the team yah, Ryan, but I would say,

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Speaker 2: have to be an injury.

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Speaker 1: Do you think we Damian McKenzie will ever get back

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Speaker 1: to go back to number ten or do you think

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Speaker 1: that's sort of.

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Speaker 2: I think he will, Yeah, but I think he's just

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Speaker 2: got to show a bit more consistency. And as I say,

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Speaker 2: we saw it in the game against Japan where the

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Speaker 2: all backs in the second quarter were just playing brilliantly

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Speaker 2: and then it dropped away in the second half, and

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Speaker 2: you know, for one reason or another, he just seemed

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Speaker 2: to be symptomatic of that. He's got so much talent.

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Speaker 2: But I just think in a test match like this,

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Speaker 2: a very high op game test, I think they've felt

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Speaker 2: to continue with it might have just been a bit

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Speaker 2: of a risk, but he'll come off the bench and

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Speaker 2: I think that what might be where he can provide

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Speaker 2: some really good.

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Speaker 1: Value, big game before a big Haucker.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean there's three certainties in life, really, isn't,

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Speaker 2: you know? Death taxes and a cacophony of complaining in

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Speaker 2: the British media about the Huker ahead of an all

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Speaker 2: black England test at Twickenham. I mean you could set

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Speaker 2: your clock to it, couldn't. It comes up every time.

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Speaker 2: It's the one part of the world where it comes

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Speaker 2: up to this degree. And I suspect I think it

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Speaker 2: portrays some rather deep rooted colonial attitudes at times. But

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Speaker 2: how seriously should we take it? How seriously should we

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Speaker 2: take the comments of Stephen Jones, a guy who sort of,

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Speaker 2: you know, I think seems to have this deep seated

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Speaker 2: hatred of the all Blacks, which you know, influences the

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Speaker 2: way he writes. And also the guy who sparked at Marla,

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Speaker 2: you know, a guy who fired this off on his

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Speaker 2: way out the door exiting the England camp for whatever reason,

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Speaker 2: so he's not actually going to front up in the test.

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Speaker 2: A guy who has once fined twenty thousand pounds in

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Speaker 2: banned for two games for making an ethnical insult against

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Speaker 2: one of the Welsh players, called him a gypsy boy

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Speaker 2: because of the player's background, all the while the crowd

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Speaker 2: in the background singing a song about slavery. I'm not

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Speaker 2: sure why we should take it seriously, but we do

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Speaker 2: delight in taking outrage and these things, and so.

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Speaker 1: We've taken the bait hotlines singer, haven't we? Tony Johnson,

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