WEBVTT - "Davey Dumb Dumb Finally Retires!" 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:06.880 Live from the Export Beer Garden Studios. You're listening to 0:00:06.920 --> 0:00:09.920 the b YC where it's semi final time at the 0:00:09.960 --> 0:00:13.119 T twenty World Cup. And while New Zealand fans will 0:00:13.160 --> 0:00:15.760 still have a sour taste in the mouth, it's a 0:00:15.840 --> 0:00:18.600 layed a little by our brothers across the ditch also 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:22.720 exiting early, and the magnificent alf Ghani's making it through 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:25.760 with a very real chance of making the finals. 0:00:25.800 --> 0:00:28.440 So let's dig into it. Fowlers, how are you Dylan? 0:00:28.680 --> 0:00:29.280 A long time? 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:29.400 No? 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:29.720 See? 0:00:29.720 --> 0:00:32.200 Actually, yeah, it feels like a while, doesn't it. Yes, 0:00:32.240 --> 0:00:35.239 it's lovely to have you back on deck. Yeah, I'm 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:39.680 pretty well. Actually I'm enjoying the Tea twenty World Cup 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:44.559 without there being that each of the seat kind of 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:46.760 thing you get with New Zealand to play. 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:49.000 Sure. Sure, Paul Ford, how are you going? 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:52.040 I'm good mate. Look, I'm a cricket purestic carefty Zealands 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:53.600 and it or not, you know, I just sit around 0:00:53.640 --> 0:00:56.320 watching cricket all day, every day, old videos. It's just 0:00:56.400 --> 0:00:57.600 nice to have some fresh content. 0:00:59.040 --> 0:00:59.840 Yeah, it is. 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:02.360 She quite pleasant in a way because it does remove 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:05.200 that element for you when your team's out of the competition. 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:07.479 You sort of have a different perspective on watching it. 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:10.319 No panic attacks, no panic attacks or anything like that. 0:01:10.520 --> 0:01:12.920 Yourself drinking coffee and a living at night. 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:14.320 Oh I still do that anyway. 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:16.840 But you know, like that Afghanistan Australian match, that was 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:17.800 a fantastic match. 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:20.119 I was, I was loving it, loving it. 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:23.640 Now, let's look at this New Zealand campaign, fellas and 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:24.679 where we're at with it. 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:25.600 Dylan Kleaver. 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:27.640 Yeah, I guess we've had a bit of a time 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:31.240 to reflect and probably the public saw the worst of 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:35.080 Paul and myself as we dissected it straight after the game. 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:40.679 Emotions were running high. Sure, look kind of when you 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:45.280 see Afghanistan roll Australia, maybe put that New Zealand performance 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:49.640 into some sort of perspective. But I still I don't 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:53.080 think the biggest problem was our performance against Afghanistan, as 0:01:53.160 --> 0:01:55.200 Richard as it was. I don't think the major problem 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:58.400 was Afghanistan beating us. It was that we did not 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:02.120 New Zealand did not give themselves the best chance yes 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:04.120 performing well in that game. I think that is the 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:08.800 critical issue that can't get lost, even even despite you know, 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:12.680 the Taliban advancing all the way to the semi finals. 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:16.040 Yeah. Yeah, well there is that really you know, difficult 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:18.480 element of it when you're sort of cheering them on. 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:22.959 I love the Afghanistan passion though. I love their commitment 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:26.320 to what they're doing. It's it's fantastic, you know, Paul 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:28.600 Forward and I've been reading a fair amount too, I mean, 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:31.120 Gary Steeds under a lot of pressure, a lot of 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:34.000 people just saying enough's enough. We've been on a downward 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:36.799 slide now for quite some time. 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:39.440 Do we need changes? 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:43.160 Yeah, Look, I don't think it's going to happen. I 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:48.679 mean I think his wins and his successes far out 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:53.200 see the doom and gloom that this campaign has brought about. 0:02:53.240 --> 0:02:57.840 You know, the Afghanistan game aside, does feel like he 0:02:57.880 --> 0:03:00.640 would be the scapegoat for the preparation side of things, 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:03.160 and you get the feeling that because he hasn't actually 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:05.840 fully owned that that maybe it was actually out of 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:09.359 his hands. He tried his best, him and the him 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:12.560 and the administration tried their best to get everyone together 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:15.120 and it was actually impossible. You know. I just don't 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:16.560 think that he's the kind of guy that's going to 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:19.080 dig in if he thinks that he's doing a shit job. 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:21.880 So look, I can I can cope with that. And 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:23.919 you know, as I think Dylan and I talked about 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:26.519 last week, you know the other option is to split 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:29.400 the coaching arrangements. Well, it's just really difficult to do 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:32.520 that given the way our schedule works with the hotch 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:37.560 Potch Medley millunge of t twenties. Then we'll have some 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:39.400 tests and then we'll have some one days and it 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:42.480 would just you suspect that it's actually would actually make 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:47.080 things really really difficult to be chopping and changing between coaches. 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:50.000 So look, I'm not sure that there will be changes 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:51.840 at on the coaching side of things. I don't think 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:55.480 his contract will be torn up early. And if I 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:58.040 think about the tournament, it's actually the game, you know, 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:01.120 if get us down on a tear picians are perfect 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:05.360 for them. They are playing some fantastic cricket, gritty cricket, 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:08.000 and their rock stars are being rock stars and some 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:10.800 of their second tier players are having blinders in this tournament, 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:13.480 which is exactly kind of what you want for me. 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:15.240 The game against the West Indies was that was the 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:18.640 worst one. We were warmed up for that one. We 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:20.560 were on top and we just couldn't get it done. 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:23.719 That one was even more frustrating given the context of 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:25.360 what we've seen from Afghanistan. 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:28.360 Since can I put something to you, Jason, Yes, on 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:32.160 this subject, I think. I mean, I'm sure Paul is right, 0:04:32.240 --> 0:04:34.919 they're not about to make a change. But when you 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:39.920 witness something gradually declining correct over a period of time now, 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:41.880 and I think we're pretty safe in saying that. Right, 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:44.880 we had Bangladesh betting us in a Test match at home. 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:46.479 I think we've had the Bangers beening us at a 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:49.560 one day or at home. We have had a pretty 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:54.160 limp performance against Australia, a very limp performing the Marquie 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:58.360 Test series. Our asses were saved by the most incredible 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:02.240 Test ever against England at the Reserve, but up until 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:05.919 the third day of that Test would been ranswered in 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:09.640 that series, We've now had this poor campaign. If you're 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:13.360 actually witnessing in slow motion to decline, is it irresponsible 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:14.919 not to make changes? 0:05:15.240 --> 0:05:17.599 Well, that was the point I was about to make 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:21.200 before you asked me that question, Dylan, which was you know, 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:24.440 Paul talking about this tournament when we can't hold the 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:28.080 coaches responsible for that, you know, And I wasn't thinking 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:31.560 when I raised that question. Just of this tournament. I've 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:34.240 been thinking about the run that we've been having that 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:37.039 Australian series. Yeah, we gave them a bit of a 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:39.279 fright in the second Test, but that pissed me off. 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:41.040 That series. It was our. 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:45.000 Premiere sort of moment of the season and we fluffed 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:49.600 it badly, I thought, and played pretty buddy poorly. And 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:54.359 you know, it's a weird conglomeration and mixture of players 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:58.320 coming to the end of their tenure anyway, mixed with 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:02.039 you know, it's hard to sort of go how much 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:05.480 the coach is responsible for things that are going wrong. 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:09.320 But it does feel like we need a freshen up, 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:13.240 a reset, and we need to take some risks and 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:17.719 do things a bit differently, because you know, Steed's always 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:20.560 been praised for steady as she goes, I guess, and 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:24.480 that's been has sort of go to and I see 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:27.799 the value in that, but it just feels like steady 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:28.160 as she. 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:30.560 Goes isn't working anymore. 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:33.360 We need to do something a bit different in outside 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:33.880 the box. 0:06:34.240 --> 0:06:35.680 I can't believe I'm going to say this, but I 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:37.800 think Paul is going to be right. But I don't 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:40.080 think he should be right, And I think you actually 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:43.120 hit the nail on the head there, Jace, I really do. Hey. 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:46.240 Can we look specifically just at the T twenty game, yes, 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:49.960 projector head to twenty twenty six where the tournament will 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:52.360 be in India and Sri Lanka. And I just want 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:54.520 to go through the current squad as it stands now 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:56.960 and get a yay or nay from both of you 0:06:57.400 --> 0:07:01.080 where they will still feature in twenty six. And obviously 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:03.600 we sat with the big dog Cain Williamson, who had 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:05.720 some news obviously last week. Yeah, your name ya. 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:09.760 No, he won't be there. I want him to be there, 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:10.440 but he won't. 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:12.480 Be Yeah, I'm going ay as well. I don't think 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:14.440 I think he will actually pull the plug on T 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:17.040 twenty eyes. So there's two one there for Allen. 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:22.560 Yeah, fair enough, Nate Ooh, well we talked about a 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:24.280 sixty percent record, Pholis. 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:26.040 Yeah, it's not good enough. It's true. 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:28.560 I think you'll be there. I think they've I think 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:32.040 they've invested in him, and I reckon he'll come good. 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:34.400 Yeah. This is a real baby in the bathwater one 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:38.680 for me. I think he needs some big improvements. But 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:40.400 I've got a question out there. I'm going to sit 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:43.840 on the fence there Trent Bolt. Obviously he's indicated nay himself, 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:44.360 So yes. 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:46.080 I was going to say nay. Anyway, two more years 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:46.960 down the track. 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:48.960 We don't have to linger on that one. Another one 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:52.600 of Paul Spedish players here, Michael brace Will, so perhaps 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:53.880 we'll go to him first this time. 0:07:57.080 --> 0:07:59.480 I think he has gone how old he? He's thirty 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:03.240 three now, I think so, Yeah, he'll be thirty five. 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:06.120 I don't think so. I think you'll be gone nay. 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:08.400 Yeah, nay for me, that's a clean sweep of knais 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:13.200 Mark Chapman, Nay, he. 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:15.400 Looks about twelve. But how old actually is he? 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:17.160 I think he's about the mid twenties, isn't he? 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:19.920 No? I think late. I think he's thirty is he? 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:20.680 Yeah? 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:23.080 He might have to get our producer who's standing by it, 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:25.360 to look that up. While we chat about him. I'm 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:29.520 going to go nay with Mark Chapman because I'm just 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:33.080 not sure that when the lights shine brightest he's quite 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:34.960 up to it. So I'm going to say nay. 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:37.960 I reckon he'll be in the squad. He's twenty ninety 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:41.160 tens thirty in late July, So he's twenty nine point nine, 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:43.400 so one of our few players under thirty actually, but 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:43.880 by a. 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:52.800 Whisker, okay dev dev con retired oh fourteen. 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:54.800 Twenties, Chuck, Yay. 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:57.640 I'm going to say yay, I think he should play. 0:08:57.880 --> 0:08:59.800 I do not think he should WI could keep as 0:08:59.840 --> 0:09:02.160 a made abundantly clear, but I think he should be 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:06.320 the Kane Williamson role going forward to the next couple 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:08.280 of years. You just can't have two of them, that's 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:10.880 my point. But I think he can still be the 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:14.200 innings anchor or the guy that you build an innings around. 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:16.679 Interesting one here, Lacky Ferguson. 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:20.280 Yeah, it's tough for you with it quick, isn't it, 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:22.360 because that's another two years. 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:23.920 Down the track and he's got no contract. 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:27.000 He's got no contract, he's been priming to injury and 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:27.760 he's thirty three. 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:30.200 Nay. 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:33.319 Oh, I'm actually going to go yay here because I 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:35.959 think he is going to be I think he'll play 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:39.680 be in demand around the world, and I think you'll 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:43.520 have less cricket, the more high value cricket. So I'm 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:44.160 going to say yay. 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:47.880 Yeah, I think he'll be in a war with Ben Sears, 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:49.720 and I think he'll still. 0:09:49.520 --> 0:09:56.080 Be around Matt Henry. Yeah, it's a hard note for me. 0:09:56.120 --> 0:09:58.680 I just think he should concentrate on tests and one. 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:01.600 Day is he feels like a red ball player to me? Yeah? 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:03.400 Or a long long form Yeah, that's a better way 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:04.400 of putting it DC. Yeah. 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:07.000 But then, but we viewed him for so long as 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:08.359 a white ball specialist. 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:13.120 Ode he is brilliant. O, he's coming to his own 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:17.720 and test cricket. I just wouldn't bother now at thirty 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:19.320 something years old, trying to turn him into a T 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:25.040 twenty five. It's name for me, Darryl, Darryl mitch Son 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:30.280 of them, mitch Yay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's good 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:30.760 to get. 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:34.200 Some which is weird, right because he's he's also thirty three. 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:37.640 But it feels like I think he's been official and 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:40.840 our thinking because he hasn't been around for that long. Yeah, 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:43.040 he's a late you know, he's the he's the archetypal 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:46.040 late bloomer. And so it's not like we feel like 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:48.319 he's sort of done his dash because his dash came 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:50.280 quite late. So yeah, it's an interesting one. 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:53.440 Isn't it ignored? Does it feel like his skill set 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:57.120 is not in keeping with the modern game, I think so. 0:10:57.440 --> 0:10:57.640 Yeah. 0:10:57.920 --> 0:10:59.360 Yeah, Jimmy Niche. 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:01.840 Look, I'm a big fan of Jimmyish but in two 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:03.199 years down the track. 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:11.000 Nay, yeah, I'm exactly an alignment with your thinking there, Paul. 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:14.960 M Yeah, Look, what's he going to be? He is 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:19.280 thirty four this year, so he'll be thirty six. I 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:20.440 just don't think he'd be bothered. 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:20.559 You know. 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:23.000 I'm sure he might be available, but I just don't think. 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:28.120 I think he will have faded out or turned completely 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:30.400 and utterly into a frenchise cricketer, which he must be 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:32.560 about ninety nine percent of at the moment, So he'll 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:34.640 be gone. Ski's i'd suggest. 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:39.920 GP Glenn Phillips yep, yep, Yeah, he's a lock. Yeah, 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:42.920 and I suspect we're going to have another unanimous lock 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:44.320 here Retchen Revenger. 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:47.079 I yeah, yeah, I'll probably even put him in the 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:48.600 team to actually play the games as well. 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:53.040 That would be get carried away here, paulow mate. 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:58.400 Maybe steps Paul Jesus Mitchell Santner, who's older than he 0:11:58.400 --> 0:11:59.040 looks as well. 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:00.880 Yeah he's thirty two. 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:03.160 Yeah, I reckon, Yeah, I think so. 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:06.600 Yeah, probably the captain perhaps, And it might be his 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:09.160 swan song. Actually that tournament unless they're going to hang 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:11.920 on for the twenty twenty eight World Cup out this 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:14.199 way in Australia, in New. 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:19.360 Zealand, capin Wadgo is Sodi yep, nate for me. I 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:21.680 think he might have moved on from him a little 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:22.480 bit unfortunately. 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:25.400 Yeah, I think that's right. I think it'll be an Eddie, 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:27.480 a shock World or something like someone of. 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:30.920 That Elk Yeah, no, fair point. Ch Actually yeah, I'll 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:32.360 change my mind on that one. 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:37.000 And Tim Sowby, who's an interesting one to finish off with. 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:42.920 Nay, no, no, no, not two more years. I love 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:44.960 the guy, don't get me wrong. He's a committed cricketer 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:46.559 and he's in good health and he's flat. 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:49.760 But yeah, two years. 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:52.400 Thirty seven running a pretty much a James Anderson vibe. 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:54.520 I think that he'll be I think that he'll pull 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:57.360 up starts before, particularly when you look where that World 0:12:57.360 --> 0:12:59.679 Cup is. I think it's India, isn't it. DC. 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:04.080 It's got a very good record there in white ball cricket. 0:13:04.120 --> 0:13:08.080 I actually reckon this might surprise us. As Jason mentioned, 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:10.199 he's in very good nick, very fit. It's not as 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:13.120 if he's pushing the envelope in terms of his pace. True, 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:16.120 so here we still around that one twenty five to 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:19.960 one thirty two. He The thing about Tim is that 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:21.800 for all the Knox he gets, all he wants to 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:23.120 do is play cricket for his country. 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:25.240 Yes, so, don't get me wrong, I'll take him if 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:27.800 he's available. I'm just I just didn't think that he 0:13:27.800 --> 0:13:30.320 would be. Yeah, I'm saying he's available. I'm picking him. 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:32.600 Yeah, yeah, same, I think he will be. 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:36.960 Actually yeah, well there you go. Fascinating stuff. 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:39.240 It's interesting, isn't it. I mean quite a few of 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:41.440 the teams. I mean, I guess we're running a bit 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:44.520 of a not quite a dad's army. What's one below that? 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:47.200 Sort of an uncle's army is it? I don't know whatever. 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:49.480 England are running a dad's army and it's kind of 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:51.439 worked for them in this tournament. I think they'll be 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:54.680 happy with the semifinals. Australia they've got no one under 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:58.599 thirty I think except Tim David in their top t 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:01.880 twenty team for this tournament, so they've taken the punt 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:04.840 and it's just interesting seeing teams with some of the younger, 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:08.520 more mercurial cricketers coming through have gone on to do 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:09.319 well in this tournament. 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:11.839 Yeah, and surely too. 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:14.440 You know, we've got to discover more talent in this 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:15.960 country over the next two years. 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:16.560 You know. 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:21.200 T twenty is firmly entrenched in the cricket psyche, you know, 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:23.400 and there's players out there that you know, in club 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:26.000 cricket and so forth, that that's what their focus is. 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:28.640 T twenty. You've got to believe that there's got to 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:31.120 be some talent coming through, surely, Yeah, because if you're 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:33.960 holding on for two more years with some of these players, 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:36.960 you really do have to start asking some questions. 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:40.360 Yeah, well we had more than half naisire, so yes, 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:42.720 I mean we due a refresh. We do it due 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:44.720 a different way of looking at the game, a more 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:47.240 power based game. So I guess that's what we want 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:50.080 to see in the poor old super smashin. 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:51.760 And the interesting thing is that all of these either 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:53.760 are going to have to be playing shitloads of T twenty, 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:55.680 aren't they, because that's where the world's going to go. 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:57.840 So we're not going to die wondering. I don't think 0:14:57.880 --> 0:14:59.080 many of them are going to be able to make 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:01.360 the choice light cable in sort of actually, you know what, 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:03.920 I might not I might not play that. They're all 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:06.360 going to be playing it to their crust. 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:08.080 Fantastic stuff fellers. 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:10.480 Well, let's take a quick break and be back with 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:13.520 some discussion on these T twenty semi finals. 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:15.880 Welcome back. 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:19.040 So the semis as that whether I was going to 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:20.560 say don and dust, of course they're not done in 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:23.600 dust it, but it's settled who's playing who. Let's start 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:31.040 off Afghanistan and South Africa. God, sorry, I had a 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:34.240 brain fade there. I was just having a little look 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:38.120 before at the wind probability there Dylan Cleaver, and I 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:40.640 saw that they had the South Africans at seventy five 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:45.320 percent win probability. Geez, I'd have a little punt on 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:49.120 the Afghanistan side. They're passionate, they're pumped up, they've got 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:52.520 a skill set. Now it is the bowl of Nevene 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:55.800 or Nevenevi Nevene. 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:58.760 Yeah, yeah, how good is he? I was watching him 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:01.160 the other day going thinking to myself. 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:05.720 Jeesus, like Boomra. He's got such a similar style to Boomra. 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:08.920 And then they did a slow side by side of 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:11.800 Boomra and leven It was identical. 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:13.160 He's a phenomenal player. 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:16.280 Yeah, they've been the darlings of the tournament so to speak. 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:20.040 I think seventy five is a bit high. Actually they're 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:23.160 playing it. Look at the Brie Lara Academy in Trinidad, 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:26.880 which is I been pretty helpful to spinners, as the 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:29.480 West Indies showed when we decided to go on with 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:33.400 a very seam heavy attack against against them. I can 0:16:33.440 --> 0:16:37.480 see Afghanistan tipping them up and you, I guess you've 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:40.360 got a factor in it. Also that South Africa not 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:44.480 noted for coming to the party in the semi final 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:46.560 stages of world tournaments. 0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:48.840 And they've kind of won ugly too though, haven't they 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:51.440 South Africa? They have won ugly in some of their matches. 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:53.560 They have had two in fairness to them because they 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:58.920 played in some pretty rich conditions in New York and 0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:00.920 so I wouldn't read two much into that. I mean 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:05.199 Quentin to car Adam Markram class and heinrich class. And 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:10.600 they have got good players. They have eleven better cricketers 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:14.560 than Afghanistan. But Afghanistan are very top heavy. They rely 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:17.480 big time on that opening partnership and that bowling attack. 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:20.120 And it's T twenty they could win. I would put 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:22.639 it at sixty three thirty seven. 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:29.080 Very specific bear Dylan, Yeah, that that Afghanistan opening partnership, 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:34.200 was it three Hundi's in this tournament opening partnerships. 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:37.440 Yeah, Goerbez and Zardar. And they are sensational and not 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:40.520 just slogging either, you know, playing genuine cricket shots along 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:43.600 the ground. Quite comfortable slogging as well, but certainly more 0:17:43.640 --> 0:17:47.320 than one dimension on show. Yeah, as you say, Dylan, 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:51.000 they are South Africans are entering the choke zone. It's 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:53.119 been a long wait for them to be in in 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:55.600 a major final. And it's it's cool that, I actually 0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:57.119 reckon it's cool that there's a couple of kind of 0:17:57.280 --> 0:17:59.800 unfashionable teams that are in the semi, which means we're 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:04.920 going to have someone interesting in the final. I think, yeah, 0:18:05.040 --> 0:18:08.320 I the question really is is this a different South 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:11.520 African team? I mean they've beaten Bandlesh I think by 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:14.600 what was it three or four runs, They've beaten Nepal 0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:18.359 by one. They've squeaked past England, They've got past the 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:21.439 West Indies, which is a bloody goodwin beating knocking the 0:18:21.440 --> 0:18:22.120 home team out. 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:24.880 I play well that game too. 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:29.040 They did yep and smart too right they played. They're 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:32.000 also prepared to tweak their lineup if they see it's 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:34.160 been friendly. I think Aiden markrom Bold the first four 0:18:34.160 --> 0:18:36.960 overs right through the power play, and you know they've 0:18:36.960 --> 0:18:43.040 got good spin bowlers, sensational Seamas Ribada obviously, Nautchia Jensen. 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:47.080 I mean they are a really really dangerous team and look, 0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:50.600 I for the sake of the Taliban, I really hope 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:52.320 so they could get past them, to be honest, and 0:18:52.359 --> 0:18:54.439 I think it would be cool for cricket to have 0:18:54.480 --> 0:18:57.040 a team like that get through, even though I really 0:18:57.040 --> 0:18:58.800 hate them because maybe part of the reason they're good 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:01.160 at TWA twenty is because they didn't send their best 0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:02.800 players out here for the test series. 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:07.399 Yeah, fair point England India. You'd have to favor the 0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:10.879 Indian side, wouldn't you, Dylan Cleaver? But you know, T 0:19:10.880 --> 0:19:12.200 twenty toss of a coin. 0:19:12.640 --> 0:19:14.240 It's a bit of a Hobson's choice this one. 0:19:14.280 --> 0:19:14.480 For me. 0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:19.440 I think India a bit of team. They're going to Guiana, 0:19:19.480 --> 0:19:25.840 which has a massive Indian population. Quadron, it'll feel like 0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:29.240