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Speaker 1: Live from the Export Beer Garden Studios. You're listening to

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Speaker 1: the b YC where it's semi final time at the

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Speaker 1: T twenty World Cup. And while New Zealand fans will

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Speaker 1: still have a sour taste in the mouth, it's a

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Speaker 1: layed a little by our brothers across the ditch also

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Speaker 1: exiting early, and the magnificent alf Ghani's making it through

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Speaker 1: with a very real chance of making the finals.

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Speaker 2: So let's dig into it. Fowlers, how are you Dylan?

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Speaker 2: A long time?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: See?

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Speaker 4: Actually, yeah, it feels like a while, doesn't it. Yes,

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Speaker 4: it's lovely to have you back on deck. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 4: pretty well. Actually I'm enjoying the Tea twenty World Cup

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Speaker 4: without there being that each of the seat kind of

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Speaker 4: thing you get with New Zealand to play.

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Speaker 2: Sure. Sure, Paul Ford, how are you going?

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Speaker 3: I'm good mate. Look, I'm a cricket purestic carefty Zealands

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Speaker 3: and it or not, you know, I just sit around

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Speaker 3: watching cricket all day, every day, old videos. It's just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 1: She quite pleasant in a way because it does remove

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Speaker 1: that element for you when your team's out of the competition.

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Speaker 1: You sort of have a different perspective on watching it.

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Speaker 1: No panic attacks, no panic attacks or anything like that.

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Speaker 1: Yourself drinking coffee and a living at night.

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Speaker 2: Oh I still do that anyway.

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Speaker 1: But you know, like that Afghanistan Australian match, that was

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Speaker 1: a fantastic match.

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Speaker 2: I was, I was loving it, loving it.

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Speaker 1: Now, let's look at this New Zealand campaign, fellas and

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Speaker 1: where we're at with it.

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Speaker 2: Dylan Kleaver.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess we've had a bit of a time

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Speaker 4: to reflect and probably the public saw the worst of

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Speaker 4: Paul and myself as we dissected it straight after the game.

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Speaker 4: Emotions were running high. Sure, look kind of when you

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Speaker 4: think the biggest problem was our performance against Afghanistan, as

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Speaker 4: New Zealand did not give themselves the best chance yes

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Speaker 4: performing well in that game. I think that is the

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Speaker 4: critical issue that can't get lost, even even despite you know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, well there is that really you know, difficult

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Speaker 1: I love the Afghanistan passion though. I love their commitment

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Speaker 1: Forward and I've been reading a fair amount too, I mean,

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Speaker 1: Gary Steeds under a lot of pressure, a lot of

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Speaker 1: people just saying enough's enough. We've been on a downward

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Speaker 2: Do we need changes?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, I don't think it's going to happen. I

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Speaker 3: mean I think his wins and his successes far out

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Speaker 3: You know, the Afghanistan game aside, does feel like he

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Speaker 3: So look, I can I can cope with that. And

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Speaker 3: you know, as I think Dylan and I talked about

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Speaker 3: the coaching arrangements. Well, it's just really difficult to do

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Speaker 3: So look, I'm not sure that there will be changes

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Speaker 3: if get us down on a tear picians are perfect

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Speaker 3: which is exactly kind of what you want for me.

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Speaker 3: The game against the West Indies was that was the

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Speaker 4: Since can I put something to you, Jason, Yes, on

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Speaker 4: I think we've had the Bangers beening us at a

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Speaker 4: Test series. Our asses were saved by the most incredible

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Speaker 1: Well, that was the point I was about to make

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Speaker 2: That series. It was our.

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Speaker 1: But it does feel like we need a freshen up,

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Speaker 1: We need to do something a bit different in outside

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Speaker 4: I can't believe I'm going to say this, but I

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Speaker 4: Can we look specifically just at the T twenty game, yes,

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Speaker 4: projector head to twenty twenty six where the tournament will

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Speaker 3: No, he won't be there. I want him to be there,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough, Nate Ooh, well we talked about a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not good enough. It's true.

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Speaker 3: I think you'll be there. I think they've I think

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Speaker 4: Yeah. This is a real baby in the bathwater one

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Speaker 4: I've got a question out there. I'm going to sit

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Speaker 4: on the fence there Trent Bolt. Obviously he's indicated nay himself,

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Speaker 2: I was going to say nay. Anyway, two more years

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Speaker 4: We don't have to linger on that one. Another one

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Speaker 4: of Paul Spedish players here, Michael brace Will, so perhaps

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Speaker 4: we'll go to him first this time.

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Speaker 3: I think he has gone how old he? He's thirty

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Speaker 3: three now, I think so, Yeah, he'll be thirty five.

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Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think you'll be gone nay.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, nay for me, that's a clean sweep of knais

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Speaker 3: Looks about twelve. But how old actually is he?

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Speaker 2: I think he's about the mid twenties, isn't he?

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Speaker 4: No? I think late. I think he's thirty is he?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: He might have to get our producer who's standing by it,

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Speaker 4: to look that up. While we chat about him. I'm

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Speaker 4: going to go nay with Mark Chapman because I'm just

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Speaker 3: I reckon he'll be in the squad. He's twenty ninety

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Speaker 4: I'm going to say yay, I think he should play.

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Speaker 4: I do not think he should WI could keep as

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Speaker 4: a made abundantly clear, but I think he should be

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Speaker 4: of years. You just can't have two of them, that's

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Speaker 4: my point. But I think he can still be the

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Speaker 4: Interesting one here, Lacky Ferguson.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough for you with it quick, isn't it,

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Speaker 1: because that's another two years.

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Speaker 4: Down the track and he's got no contract.

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Speaker 1: He's got no contract, he's been priming to injury and

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Speaker 1: he's thirty three.

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Speaker 3: Nay.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I'm actually going to go yay here because I

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Speaker 4: be in demand around the world, and I think you'll

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Speaker 4: have less cricket, the more high value cricket. So I'm

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he'll be in a war with Ben Sears,

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Speaker 4: Be around Matt Henry. Yeah, it's a hard note for me.

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Speaker 4: I just think he should concentrate on tests and one.

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Speaker 3: Day is he feels like a red ball player to me? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: But then, but we viewed him for so long as

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Speaker 4: Ode he is brilliant. O, he's coming to his own

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Speaker 4: and test cricket. I just wouldn't bother now at thirty

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Speaker 4: of them, mitch Yay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's good

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Speaker 3: Some which is weird, right because he's he's also thirty three.

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Speaker 2: Actually yeah, well there you go. Fascinating stuff.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting, isn't it. I mean quite a few of

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Speaker 3: and it's just interesting seeing teams with some of the younger,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and surely too.

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Speaker 1: You know, we've got to discover more talent in this

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well we had more than half naisire, so yes,

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Speaker 3: And the interesting thing is that all of these either

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Speaker 3: So we're not going to die wondering. I don't think

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Speaker 2: Fantastic stuff fellers.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's take a quick break and be back with

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Speaker 2: Welcome back.

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Speaker 1: So the semis as that whether I was going to

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Speaker 1: off Afghanistan and South Africa. God, sorry, I had a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, how good is he? I was watching him

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Speaker 1: Jeesus, like Boomra. He's got such a similar style to Boomra.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they've been the darlings of the tournament so to speak.

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Speaker 1: And they've kind of won ugly too though, haven't they

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Speaker 4: They have had two in fairness to them because they

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Speaker 1: Very specific bear Dylan, Yeah, that that Afghanistan opening partnership,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Goerbez and Zardar. And they are sensational and not

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Speaker 3: I the question really is is this a different South

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Speaker 4: I play well that game too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fair point England India. You'd have to favor the

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Speaker 4: It's a bit of a Hobson's choice this one.

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Speaker 4: This is a decent England team and Phil Salt could

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll feel like a home game, Dylan, because it

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I guess the consensus is India South Africa final.

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Speaker 3: to the gym, cove your heir, cove your skin, no

438
00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,159
Speaker 3: more going to school, you can't go to the park,

439
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 3: all of that kind of stuff. So I'm sure that's

440
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,480
Speaker 3: just the sort of the regulatory layer of that. The

441
00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 3: enforcement of that, I'm sure is pretty grim. So there's

442
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:43,760
Speaker 3: that that just the very nature of that prejudice against women.

443
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 3: Then you've got the hypocrisy. I think that's followed on

444
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,119
Speaker 3: from it. So for example, you've had Cricket Australia go,

445
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 3: we are not going to go to Afghanistan and two

446
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 3: there because we have concerns about the regime that's in

447
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:02,480
Speaker 3: place over there. And so you know, it's sort of

448
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 3: weird because they were going to play in the United

449
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 3: Arab Emirates, they weren't going to be sort of playing

450
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 3: in caball. But basically you've got this thing where where

451
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 3: it's convenient, where you maybe need to make win a

452
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 3: game to get through to the Cricket World Cup semi finals,

453
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 3: you'll be happy to play the game, but you're actually

454
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 3: not prepared to kind of go in and play the

455
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,879
Speaker 3: games when the games are part of the schedule. So

456
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,439
Speaker 3: there's this weird there's this weird hypocrisy. And also you've

457
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 3: got the Taliban coming out kind of saying, you know,

458
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,479
Speaker 3: we just think you should be really fair to all

459
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,160
Speaker 3: of the countries and come and play, come and play

460
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Speaker 3: with us.

461
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

462
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Speaker 3: Look, I think it's it's a really complicated subject, but

463
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Speaker 3: I think it would be doing a disservice not to

464
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Speaker 3: acknowledge that there is some complexity around this particular fairy tale.

465
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think the woman thing is the big thing, right,

466
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 4: you are meant to The International Cricket Council dictates that

467
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 4: you should have a woman's program, and they clearly cannot

468
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Speaker 4: have a woman's program under the under the Taliban. But

469
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 4: I do where I do sympathize as the players themselves

470
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 4: have been getting a little bit of grief but not

471
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 4: speaking out against it, against the regime. And all I

472
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 4: would say to that is walk a mile in their shoes,

473
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 4: and you know, they have family. Even though they themselves

474
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Speaker 4: might not be living in Cable or Kandergar or cost

475
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,439
Speaker 4: or wherever it is at the moment, they have family

476
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Speaker 4: over there. I would not be speaking out too loudly

477
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Speaker 4: against a regime that has proven in the past to

478
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 4: be fairly murderous. Yeah, and just in case anyone from

479
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 4: the Taliban is listening, that was Paul Fordy just said that.

480
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Speaker 3: Not even true. It's not even true. The other thing

481
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Speaker 3: that we should talk about briefly is and I wouldn't.

482
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 3: Just to be clear, I am not really following them.

483
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Speaker 3: This is not a segway from the Teleban discussion, but

484
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 3: there was some pretty shoddy behavior in that semi final

485
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Speaker 3: against Bangladesh.

486
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Speaker 1: Told me through that what was going on there be

487
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 1: through this because I didn't watch the game, I'll.

488
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Speaker 4: Leave a Florida Paul, but I was very funny.

489
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you had the Afghanistan coach Jonathan trot Yes,

490
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 3: so sorry. Yeah, so they're banning. They get ahead on

491
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 3: the Duckworth Lewis stern thing by two runs. Jonathan Trott,

492
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 3: the coach, then is sort of waving at the team.

493
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 3: He was very involved towards through this match, lots of

494
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,239
Speaker 3: field settings and all sorts, and he was sort of

495
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 3: waving his hands down and sort of saying slow it down,

496
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,919
Speaker 3: slow it down, slow it down, obviously noting that they

497
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 3: were two runs ahead on the Duckworth Lewis as the

498
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 3: rain came in, so this would be quite a convenient

499
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 3: juncture for us to stop. Now. I think it was

500
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 3: misinterpreted by the first slip, who absolutely fell down like

501
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,640
Speaker 3: he'd been shot, and it was sort of, I think,

502
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 3: attributed back to the coach that he had told the

503
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 3: slips to do that, and of course he actually hadn't.

504
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,439
Speaker 3: He was just sort of saying slow it down, and

505
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 3: all sorts of chaos and then you could see that

506
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 3: the band dish batsmen were like, this is not very good.

507
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 3: Commentators were very damning, and even Rashi Cant, who was

508
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,360
Speaker 3: bowling at the time, was kind of like, what are

509
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 3: we doing? I did see it. I did see Later

510
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 3: on it got described as oh, yeah, he just had

511
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 3: a bit of cramp, which is obviously just absolute horseship.

512
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 2: Us didn't know.

513
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Speaker 4: Hell when he came on to bowl off his full

514
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 4: run up too not long after that. Yes, and and.

515
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:30,640
Speaker 3: The celebratory charge Gilbertan it was absolutely at the front

516
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,439
Speaker 3: of the pack, just tearing his way out of the

517
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Speaker 3: out of the dugout, you know, like absolutely totally involved. Yeah,

518
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 3: so one of the dodgiest left eye injuries. I saw

519
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 3: Adam Zamper describe it as a pulled ham rainstring, I

520
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 3: think is what he called it. Was it a rainstring?

521
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 3: I saw rain string? Yes.

522
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Speaker 1: Well, one thing you got to say about the Afghanistan side,

523
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Speaker 1: though they're very entertaining to watch, you know, the celebrations

524
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Speaker 1: and you know they were into it and that you

525
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 1: know the fun part of watching them. You know, it

526
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 1: is a complicated story and it's always difficult when these

527
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: politics involved too.

528
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 2: But they are quite amusing to watch.

529
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, the game was actually hinky and more ways than

530
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 4: one too, because Bangladesh seemed to pull out very quickly

531
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Speaker 4: from an opportunity to win by a big enough margin

532
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 4: to qualify themselves out of that group. I mean, it's

533
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 4: not like they were chasing a big target. And then

534
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 4: after about nine overs they said have three point one

535
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 4: overs left to get to the target, and Marmadulla came

536
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 4: out and started blocking everything.

537
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 3: It was yeah, basic one hundred and sixteen. I've quite

538
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 3: an extraordinary picture of this thing. So I was heading

539
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,400
Speaker 3: from up the city after going up for Seinfelder. Let's

540
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 3: not talk about that. That's a whole gaza conversation. And

541
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Speaker 3: my taxi driver was Afghani, and I noticed that when

542
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 3: we were stopped at the lights, he was clicking in

543
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 3: and putting the stream on the video stream on, but

544
00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 3: obviously thought that it was a bit dodgy to do

545
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 3: it wile he was driving. I noticed that and I said,

546
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 3: just put it on, mates. He put it on, turned

547
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 3: the volume up full blowing, and as we drove out

548
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 3: to the to the airport to fly home. Yeah, we

549
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 3: watched the last five overs together in the taxi and

550
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 3: He was absolutely pumped up. So when we got to

551
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 3: the ukle airport, he set me off with about five

552
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 3: hundred toots no ak forty seven shots. But I imagined

553
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 3: that if he had one, he would have been raining

554
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 3: bullets upon me as well, which, yeah, it's quite quite sensational,

555
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 3: really amazing.

556
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 4: Did you get a discounter or was it prepaid?

557
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 2: Uber?

558
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 3: I gave him a tip. I thought I'd give him

559
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 3: a tip because I thought, yeah, he made that experience

560
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 3: of that taxi right, absolutely sensational.

561
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 2: Shit.

562
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 3: He was into it.

563
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: So some big names of course Big Country is not

564
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: making it through New Zealand. Of course Parkstown, Westerndies. Australia,

565
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: Mitch Marsh under a bit of pressure.

566
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, well I guess any Australian captain, it doesn't bring.

567
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 2: Home if you lose. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

568
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 4: He bettered really poorly in that tournament too, and he

569
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 4: didn't get runs and know their critical match, he was

570
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 4: caught sensation. They had to India and it looked like

571
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 4: him and Trevor's head were setting them up to chase

572
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 4: down two hundred odd and then he got caught sensationally

573
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 4: on the boundary by Aksha or AKX Patel not quite

574
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 4: sure how you say that first name. And it may

575
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 4: have been a little bit of a mistake because the

576
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 4: Indian fielding coach or coach was out there chatting to

577
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 4: Aha and he didn't turn around till quite late. And

578
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 4: I suspect if he had turned around and walked in

579
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 4: with the bowler when he should have started, he would

580
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 4: have been too far in and would have gone over

581
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 4: his head. So it was really quite.

582
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 2: Answer on their side.

583
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 4: It was a miracle one hand to catch above his head.

584
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 4: But yeah, Mitchell Marsha, I mean, I don't know what

585
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 4: do you make of him as a skipper pool.

586
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: He seems pretty loose and relaxed to me. It doesn't

587
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: seem to get too wound up.

588
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 3: I think that's kind of the problem. Jase, Yeah, I

589
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 3: think you know. The runs are one thing. I think

590
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 3: you know a couple of scores. He dropped the center

591
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 3: of a catch, absolute sort of a catch. He didn't

592
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 3: bowl himself. And lots of the Instagram stories and reels

593
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 3: and posts and so on from the Australian team in

594
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 3: and around this tournament have been around.

595
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 4: You know.

596
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 3: I think you guys want of Adam Zampra and Matthew

597
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 3: Wade out fishing. I think it was, wasn't it in

598
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 3: the little speedos, which neither of you seem to appreciate.

599
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 3: But my point is quite a relp. You said that

600
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 3: it made you feel a bit sick, relaxed, kind of

601
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,479
Speaker 3: a vibe around this team, and I think they were

602
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 3: probably trying something different in the wake of the high

603
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 3: pressure stakes of the IPL. And yeah, I guess Mitchell

604
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 3: marsh is going to be the guy that the knives

605
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 3: are going to be out for because it's kind of like, oh,

606
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 3: you guys were a bit too casual and look where

607
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 3: that got us. What actually happened was they had a

608
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 3: really shitty day against Afghanistan and that just stuffed them

609
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 3: up for the whole tournament. That's how tournament's like, that's work,

610
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 3: doesn't it. Yeah, one game, crappy game and you're gone.

611
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: Yes, finally, Davy dum dumb, finally finally.

612
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 4: Isn't there something quite delicious about the thought that his

613
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 4: international career effectively ended with him watching a television praying

614
00:29:55,320 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 4: for Bengladesh to beat Afghanistan. I mean, it's hard not answered,

615
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 4: it's hardy waving your back to have packed the mcg

616
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 4: as you leave the ground for the last time, is

617
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 4: it yes, very much so.

618
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 3: About to a scream a catch to against Afghanistan.

619
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Speaker 1: Hey, now we're going to take a little break again

620
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: and be back with some of your correspondents.

621
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 2: Welcome back.

622
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: We've got some correspondence here from Mark t and the

623
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: Windy's and he writes, Fellows, I know you guys have

624
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: consigned this World Cup to the dust spin of history,

625
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,479
Speaker 1: so I wasn't going to send another update. However, I

626
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: got in from the Afghanistan versus Australia game, where there

627
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: was a sizeable contingent of kiwis who had anticipated us

628
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: making the quarter finals and playing in Saint Vincent.

629
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Speaker 2: This game was like redemption.

630
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: We weren't as ratched as we thought and Afghanistan deserved

631
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: to be there.

632
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 2: What an atmosphere.

633
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: The drums were mental and I was still dancing away

634
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: well after the game was over. The point of this

635
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: email is to say there will be some happy traveling

636
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: fans tonight, and I'm one of them.

637
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 2: What a blast.

638
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: If you do a wrap up of the world then

639
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: this game should be singled out for its restorative effect

640
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: on our bruised and battered cricketing souls well for us

641
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: traveling fans anyway, not sure anyone else will have noticed.

642
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: Thanks for reading out my first email. I love Cain

643
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: and I think he's the best equal ploywer we've ever had,

644
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: not least because we won a trip to Lords with

645
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: the team in twenty fifteen and Cain was particularly nice

646
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: to my boy Moss Cheers.

647
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 4: Thank you for keeping us up to date with your travels,

648
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 4: Mark Turner, It's been a pleasure to read.

649
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: Them, but right now it's time for Paul Ford's cricket

650
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: Violence Corner.

651
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 2: Paul Ford's cricket Violence Corner.

652
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 3: Police have descended on a cricket field at a club

653
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 3: in Hampshire to evict travelers who allegedly broke onto the

654
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 3: land and drove around in circles in the middle of

655
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 3: the night. The travelers were removed from the cricket field

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Speaker 3: at Petersfield Cricket Club, which is said to have been

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Speaker 3: severely damaged by their intrusion. Photos posted by the club

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Speaker 3: online show the field blighted with deep circular tire marks

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Speaker 3: cutting into the grass. Club captain Chris Russell said last

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Speaker 3: night we had some unexpected visitors on our CCTVV two

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Speaker 3: four x four forward rangers. We're doing donuts on our field.

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Speaker 3: We're a volunteer club with two hundred members. We have

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Speaker 3: lots and lots of volunteer hours to put everything back together.

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Speaker 3: It's really disappointing that there's this mindless damage. So b

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Speaker 3: YC listeners, if you have any information about this, please

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Speaker 3: do get in touch with the Hampshire Constabulary.

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Speaker 1: Great suff mate, and to finish us off with this podcast,

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Speaker 1: it's a pull Ford news or oozy.

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Speaker 3: That's three things that'll be something wrong with one of them.

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Speaker 3: The first one Break Duckworth, the man whose mathematical knowledge

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Speaker 3: helped to revolutionize rain affected cricket, died overnight, aged ninety nine,

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Speaker 3: falling just short of his rain reduced three figure target.

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Speaker 3: The English statistician created the Duckworth Lewis method with Tony Lewis,

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Speaker 3: a model to recalculate the scores when limited over matches

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Speaker 3: were curtailed by weather. Duckworth spent his entire career working

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Speaker 3: in the nuclear industry. Originally employed as a metallogist, he

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Speaker 3: found he had the ability to extract useful information from

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Speaker 3: masses of numerical measurements. Sad news from Australia. Will Pikowski

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Speaker 3: has probably played his last professional cricket match, according to

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Speaker 3: a report from Code Sports, which claims that Victorian cricket

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Speaker 3: players and officials are increasingly resigned to the idea. It

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Speaker 3: was reported in March this year that an expert medical

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Speaker 3: panel would come together to discuss his playing future after

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Speaker 3: he suffered yet another blow to the head in a

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Speaker 3: Sheffield Shield match. The incident, adding to the twenty six

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Speaker 3: year old's long long history of concussions. Terrible news, terrible

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Speaker 3: news and number three another quite grim one. To be honest,

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Speaker 3: Trudy Linn Blade, Cricket Scotland CEO, has described public comments

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Speaker 3: made by player John Blaine at the formal conclusion of

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Speaker 3: an independent investigation into allegations of racist behavior as very disappointed.

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Speaker 3: Blane is the form of Scotland and Yorkshire bowler who

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Speaker 3: claimed last week they had been exonerated of allegations of racism.

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Speaker 3: After making public a letter he received from Cricket Scotland

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Speaker 3: in January, Blaine issued a subsequent statement preempting is Cricket

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Speaker 3: Scotland's formal conclusion of the investigation process. Blaine threatened threatened

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Speaker 3: at legal action against the board. How good is this?

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Speaker 3: He said that Cricket Scotland. He accused Cricket Scotland of

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Speaker 3: a craven, disingenuous and despicable attempt to rewrite history a

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Speaker 3: week after I was forced to go public to clear

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Speaker 3: my name. It's a mess over there, boys, Cricket Scotland.

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Speaker 3: It's a shambles and there are shambles on the field

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Speaker 3: as well as we've seen here we go?

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Speaker 2: Shall I go first?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you might as well.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to go one.

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Speaker 4: That's what I was going.

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Speaker 2: Did you say Brent Duckworth Rank?

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Speaker 4: Sorry, Brank, that is his name. He wasn't on Coronation

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Speaker 4: Street either, that's what you were thinking?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is it?

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Speaker 4: That was Vera Duckworth and Jack the Pigeon.

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Speaker 3: Do you know that?

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Speaker 1: No, I can see you being a massive Coronation Street

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Speaker 1: fans used to be.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm almost thinking that you might lose instantly for

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Speaker 3: knowing that much about Coronation Street to be a lord

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Speaker 3: of like a breach.

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Speaker 2: Frank Duckworth.

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Speaker 4: No, you don't think it's Frank Dackworth. No, I do

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Speaker 4: think it's Frank Duckworth. I just don't know if it's

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Speaker 4: Tony Lewis, because Tony Lewis was a former England captain

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Speaker 4: in Glamorgan or round her. I think it's the Tony

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Speaker 4: Lewis that's role, not the Frank duck With So I'm

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Speaker 4: going to go a story one too.

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Speaker 3: Well, it is story one, but it is Frank Duckworth

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Speaker 3: and it is Tony Lewis. But he didn't die aged

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Speaker 3: ninety nine. He died aged eighty four. I just made it,

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Speaker 3: put a cricket number in there for you.

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Speaker 2: I will just give it to me for the time being.

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Speaker 3: I'll look after it because you bravely went first, Jason.

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Speaker 2: With that push keep it.

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Speaker 4: We were so far off oth Oh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 2: I keep it fair enough.

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Speaker 4: Hey.

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Speaker 1: That brings us to the end of this podcast, so

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Speaker 1: obviously we'll be back after the semis in the final.

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Speaker 2: What's going on with the bounce, Dylan?

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Speaker 4: Well, the bounces concentrating on the WILTI twenty at the moment,

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Speaker 4: diverting to things like the or black naming the other night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what'd you think?

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Speaker 4: I thought it was pretty sound, Yes, felt a little

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Speaker 4: bit sorry for Husk Institution.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that was weird, wasn't it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, But there you go. But join me anyway on

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Speaker 4: the bounce at Dylancleaver dot substack dot com. We'd love

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Speaker 4: to have you along. It's free and pull.

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Speaker 1: If people want to get in contact with us, mate

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Speaker 1: and sending these these magnificent letters, what do they do?

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Speaker 3: Like, I say, an email a short epistle to b

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Speaker 3: YC at Bagebrigade dot co dot m Z, or slide

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Speaker 3: into the dms on Instagram or Facebook for the opportunity

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Speaker 3: of commentary collective or the base.

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Speaker 1: Brigade beautiful stuff. Well, thanks for taking the time to listen.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back very soon. Until then, take care,