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Speaker 1: Todd mcclay's confirmed the Free Trade Agreement with India will

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Speaker 1: not allow the government to cap the number of students

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Speaker 1: coming in from India. They can cap, however, the number

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Speaker 1: of international students overall, but the FTA would not allow

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Speaker 1: this or any future government to restrict students coming from India.

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Speaker 1: This will came from an interview on The Herald's Rhyan

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Speaker 1: Bridge today yesterday. Marcus Beveridge is managing director and immigration

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Speaker 1: lawyer at Queen City Law and joins me this morning. Marcus,

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Speaker 1: good morning Mining. So was Winston Peter's right? I mean

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Speaker 1: they're kind of both right in in a technical way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a bit of a reds under your beds

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Speaker 2: and Asian invasion sort of stuff, and it's a lightning

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Speaker 2: rod for New Zealand to this issue. But in actual fact,

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Speaker 2: Winston did the same thing when we signed the Free

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Speaker 2: Trade Agreement about twenty years ago. Helen Cooke shut him

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Speaker 2: down at that time. I think Todd McKay, McLay and

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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister have been a bit feeble and the

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Speaker 2: week on this one, but so he's got a lot

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Speaker 2: of political wich. We don't cap any foreign students, so

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Speaker 2: the whole thing's a bit of a red hearing in

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Speaker 2: some ways.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I know, but we might want to at some point,

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Speaker 1: you know, So in that sense, does he have a point?

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Speaker 2: Well, he doesn't. He doesn't. In the old days, like

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Speaker 2: with India, it's very hard to get visas anyway. They're

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Speaker 2: put them through all sorts of hoops because of all

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Speaker 2: the fraud and so on. So in the old days

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Speaker 2: they just take the embassy out or take the visa

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Speaker 2: processing function out of that country and put it in

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Speaker 2: Singapore and make it really hard. But now that it's online,

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Speaker 2: I think typically it takes about ninety days for a

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Speaker 2: student laser from India. If you're Indi and you're going

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Speaker 2: to London or Germany, it takes about a week to

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Speaker 2: get approved. And you know, we're talking about jurisdiction that

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Speaker 2: in twenty thirty will be a third of the entire

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Speaker 2: world's global workforce. So you know, they they could pro

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Speaker 2: create twenty or thirty thousand foreign students and one day

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Speaker 2: in India. By the way it sort of rolls.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just on a numbers game. What about the work

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Speaker 1: rights of a student? How long if you've got a

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Speaker 1: student visa here? What is it twenty hours a week

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Speaker 1: or thirty hours a week, you can.

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Speaker 2: Work, yeah, twenty hours a week. And I've gotten mates

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Speaker 2: who are sort of complaining that kids can't even get

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Speaker 2: part time work at the moment. So you know, that's

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Speaker 2: Winston in terms of New Zealand. First, it's a consideration

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Speaker 2: for us, but I guess we've got to weigh up,

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Speaker 2: you know, all the positive things associated with a free

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Speaker 2: trade agreement with such a big marketplace, and certainly weed

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Speaker 2: out the people we don't want, including some of the

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Speaker 2: downtown uber drivers.

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Speaker 1: And hope that by the time the ft APTA actually

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Speaker 1: comes into force that we are in a position where

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Speaker 1: we have enough jobs to go around.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point too. But look, I mean,

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Speaker 2: just just pivoting the Golden visas, we don't. We don't.

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Speaker 2: There's no age discrimination, there's no cap, there is no

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Speaker 2: cap on those numbers coming in. I mean, there's only

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Speaker 2: five hundred families under that program so far in one

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Speaker 2: year under Indian students. In his own I think there's

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Speaker 2: twelve thousand at the moment, and we could probably handle

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Speaker 2: the more. But yeah, allowing them all to work twenty hours,

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Speaker 2: and whether that's at the edge of the wedge and

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Speaker 2: they do a few more under the table or whatever.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's a consideration that we have to be

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Speaker 2: mindful of. And the if you go to Silicon Valley,

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Speaker 2: I mean it's filled with Indians and Chinese and they've

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Speaker 2: all got PhDs and electronic engineering. So we want to

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Speaker 2: somehow get the ones that work well for us.

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Speaker 1: Marcus, appreciate your time this morning. Marcus Beverage, Managing director

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Speaker 1: and immigration lawyer at Queens City Law.

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