1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast 2 00:00:10,613 --> 00:00:11,693 Speaker 1: from News Talks AB. 3 00:00:12,813 --> 00:00:15,373 Speaker 2: You're with Saturday Mornings. I'm Francesca with you until mid 4 00:00:15,453 --> 00:00:17,653 Speaker 2: day and joining me now as Catherine Rains. 5 00:00:17,773 --> 00:00:21,213 Speaker 3: Good morning, Catherine, Good morning, Francesca. 6 00:00:21,333 --> 00:00:24,053 Speaker 2: Good to have you with us. Now, you've got a 7 00:00:24,133 --> 00:00:27,173 Speaker 2: wonderful list of some of your would would these be 8 00:00:27,253 --> 00:00:29,333 Speaker 2: your sort of favorite picks from the year? 9 00:00:30,693 --> 00:00:33,053 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. There's certainly books that have stayed 10 00:00:33,053 --> 00:00:35,293 Speaker 3: with me that I've thought about over time, So I 11 00:00:35,293 --> 00:00:36,893 Speaker 3: think that's always a sign of a good book. 12 00:00:36,973 --> 00:00:39,093 Speaker 2: Well, perfect perfect timing, because of course there's a few 13 00:00:39,093 --> 00:00:40,933 Speaker 2: people out there probably still doing a little bit of 14 00:00:40,973 --> 00:00:43,213 Speaker 2: last minute shopping or think that today is a perfectly 15 00:00:43,253 --> 00:00:45,973 Speaker 2: good day to start their Christmas shopping. So it's going 16 00:00:46,013 --> 00:00:47,813 Speaker 2: together a few little ideas. Or if you're looking for 17 00:00:47,813 --> 00:00:49,733 Speaker 2: a book of course to take away over the holidays, 18 00:00:49,773 --> 00:00:53,173 Speaker 2: you've got some good suggestions for us. Should we start 19 00:00:53,253 --> 00:00:55,253 Speaker 2: with your fiction picks? 20 00:00:55,813 --> 00:00:58,733 Speaker 3: So first up is The Waiting by Michael Connolly. And 21 00:00:59,413 --> 00:01:01,493 Speaker 3: when I'm also going to write as many books as 22 00:01:01,493 --> 00:01:03,973 Speaker 3: Michael Connolly has done, and he still keeps it fresh, 23 00:01:04,093 --> 00:01:07,333 Speaker 3: and he continues the Bosh series, and and this Renee 24 00:01:07,373 --> 00:01:09,453 Speaker 3: Ballad is in charge of a cold case unit and 25 00:01:09,493 --> 00:01:12,293 Speaker 3: Bosh's retired, but of course he occasionally helps out. And 26 00:01:12,333 --> 00:01:15,213 Speaker 3: now his daughter Maddie is involved in volunteering at the unit. 27 00:01:15,573 --> 00:01:18,453 Speaker 3: In the unit, and Connie is able to weave all 28 00:01:18,493 --> 00:01:20,973 Speaker 3: sorts of things into the narrative and distinct storylines and 29 00:01:21,013 --> 00:01:23,453 Speaker 3: develop and flesh out the characters, and he does it 30 00:01:23,493 --> 00:01:25,693 Speaker 3: in such an interesting way that it keeps you really 31 00:01:25,733 --> 00:01:29,773 Speaker 3: engrossed in the series. And then we have intermesio Sally 32 00:01:29,853 --> 00:01:33,693 Speaker 3: Rooney for something really different, and her writing is just superb, 33 00:01:33,773 --> 00:01:36,453 Speaker 3: the way she writes her dialogue and her characters and 34 00:01:36,493 --> 00:01:40,173 Speaker 3: the interaction between two people and the subtle nuances and 35 00:01:40,933 --> 00:01:44,453 Speaker 3: the emotional ties between them and that human interaction. And 36 00:01:44,493 --> 00:01:47,093 Speaker 3: the story is about brothers and it brings in themes 37 00:01:47,093 --> 00:01:49,973 Speaker 3: of mentality and belief and wants and desires and these 38 00:01:50,013 --> 00:01:52,693 Speaker 3: complicated lives. But it's really beautifully told. 39 00:01:53,053 --> 00:01:55,093 Speaker 2: And Graham Norton had a new book out. 40 00:01:55,173 --> 00:01:57,773 Speaker 3: He does This is Frankie, And in this you take 41 00:01:58,253 --> 00:02:00,373 Speaker 3: a trip with an older Frankie. She looks back on 42 00:02:00,413 --> 00:02:03,573 Speaker 3: the significant events in her life and she's sharing her 43 00:02:03,573 --> 00:02:06,893 Speaker 3: story with her Cara Damien, and it sets in dem 44 00:02:07,013 --> 00:02:09,253 Speaker 3: starts in the nineteen sixties in New York and London, 45 00:02:09,293 --> 00:02:11,973 Speaker 3: and you kind of laugh along and cry and you 46 00:02:12,093 --> 00:02:14,853 Speaker 3: just don't really forget the remarkable story of Frankie and 47 00:02:14,893 --> 00:02:18,253 Speaker 3: the Intrigue, and it's just the story's wonderfully told. Now. 48 00:02:18,333 --> 00:02:19,773 Speaker 2: I know that a lot of people have had this 49 00:02:19,893 --> 00:02:22,333 Speaker 2: on their sort of best of all favorite books of 50 00:02:22,373 --> 00:02:24,333 Speaker 2: the year list, greg Old's Southern Man. 51 00:02:24,853 --> 00:02:28,333 Speaker 3: Yeah, the story has everything in his style at his history, 52 00:02:28,933 --> 00:02:32,333 Speaker 3: and it's set where America itself is teetering on the 53 00:02:32,453 --> 00:02:36,053 Speaker 3: brink of anarchy, and you find yourself very drawn into 54 00:02:36,133 --> 00:02:39,453 Speaker 3: the story. And it weaves together today's political climate and 55 00:02:39,573 --> 00:02:42,693 Speaker 3: Civil War era slavery issues, and it is in an 56 00:02:42,733 --> 00:02:46,653 Speaker 3: uncomfortable read, but it's a political and historical thriller that 57 00:02:46,693 --> 00:02:49,853 Speaker 3: shines a light on corruption and race relationships and family 58 00:02:49,893 --> 00:02:53,693 Speaker 3: relationships and past and present. And it's a doorstop of 59 00:02:53,733 --> 00:02:55,733 Speaker 3: a book. But I couldn't put it down. I was 60 00:02:55,773 --> 00:02:58,093 Speaker 3: completely engrossed in the story and his writing. 61 00:02:58,333 --> 00:03:01,733 Speaker 2: And finally Catherine a new series from an author who 62 00:03:01,813 --> 00:03:04,333 Speaker 2: was one of my favorite guests of the Summa Session 63 00:03:04,373 --> 00:03:07,253 Speaker 2: this year, Richard Osmond. He was just charming. I loved 64 00:03:07,293 --> 00:03:08,453 Speaker 2: meeting him and. 65 00:03:08,413 --> 00:03:10,733 Speaker 3: He is charming, and he's an expert at those k 66 00:03:11,293 --> 00:03:14,933 Speaker 3: cozy crime novels. And in this se piltrays two characters, 67 00:03:14,973 --> 00:03:17,733 Speaker 3: Steve and Amy Wheeler, and their relationship with each other 68 00:03:18,213 --> 00:03:20,693 Speaker 3: and their interactions, and it almost makes me wish that 69 00:03:20,733 --> 00:03:22,333 Speaker 3: I was in the story with them, apart from the 70 00:03:22,333 --> 00:03:24,093 Speaker 3: fact that they're dealing with a dead body, a bag 71 00:03:24,093 --> 00:03:27,053 Speaker 3: of money, and a killer. But he also tackles some 72 00:03:27,093 --> 00:03:30,333 Speaker 3: serious topics like grief and loneliness and all along with 73 00:03:30,373 --> 00:03:33,213 Speaker 3: his trademark humor, and it leaves you with a very 74 00:03:33,253 --> 00:03:36,133 Speaker 3: heartwarming and charming story. And I don't think anyone does 75 00:03:36,173 --> 00:03:37,533 Speaker 3: it better than Richard osmam No. 76 00:03:37,533 --> 00:03:39,373 Speaker 2: He does it beautifully. And that book was called We 77 00:03:39,493 --> 00:03:43,133 Speaker 2: Solve the Murders. I'm really impressed with your nonfiction list too. 78 00:03:43,133 --> 00:03:45,173 Speaker 2: There's a few on here that I've got in my 79 00:03:45,333 --> 00:03:46,933 Speaker 2: pile to read over the holidays. 80 00:03:48,213 --> 00:03:51,893 Speaker 3: So first up is Framed Jim mccosby and John Grisham, 81 00:03:52,053 --> 00:03:55,293 Speaker 3: and this is about suffering and corruption and faith and 82 00:03:55,333 --> 00:03:58,693 Speaker 3: perseverance and hopefully at the end of it, redemption. And 83 00:03:58,733 --> 00:04:02,493 Speaker 3: it's the account of very real stories faced by some 84 00:04:02,693 --> 00:04:06,093 Speaker 3: innocent Americans who've been wrongfully committed in most of these 85 00:04:06,093 --> 00:04:08,613 Speaker 3: people are still in jail from it, and it is 86 00:04:09,373 --> 00:04:12,333 Speaker 3: compelling and it makes you stop and think and look 87 00:04:12,373 --> 00:04:15,053 Speaker 3: at that corruption and the racism and the misconduct and 88 00:04:15,093 --> 00:04:19,093 Speaker 3: the flawed silent science and the dodgy testimony. And it's 89 00:04:19,133 --> 00:04:22,253 Speaker 3: told in alternative stories by best selling author John Grisham 90 00:04:22,533 --> 00:04:25,333 Speaker 3: and a guy called John Jim McCluskey who has worked 91 00:04:25,373 --> 00:04:28,893 Speaker 3: for forty five years to free innocent people in jail, 92 00:04:29,013 --> 00:04:33,373 Speaker 3: and it is harrowing, and yeah, it really makes you 93 00:04:33,373 --> 00:04:36,373 Speaker 3: you think and take a step back at maybe how 94 00:04:36,373 --> 00:04:38,973 Speaker 3: you can judge people too quickly at times. And yeah, 95 00:04:39,013 --> 00:04:40,693 Speaker 3: one of those things that sticks with you for a while. 96 00:04:40,693 --> 00:04:43,133 Speaker 2: I think I've got a bit confused there with David McCloskey, 97 00:04:43,173 --> 00:04:46,053 Speaker 2: who was the former CIA agent turned author. This is 98 00:04:46,133 --> 00:04:49,573 Speaker 2: not him, No, Jim mca Jim okay, cop, What else 99 00:04:49,613 --> 00:04:50,413 Speaker 2: have you got on your list? 100 00:04:50,933 --> 00:04:53,813 Speaker 3: So I've got The Siege by Ben McIntyre, And this 101 00:04:54,333 --> 00:04:57,773 Speaker 3: takes you back to nineteen eighty when sixth Gunment take 102 00:04:57,853 --> 00:05:01,493 Speaker 3: twenty six hostages in the Iranian Embassy in London, an 103 00:05:01,693 --> 00:05:06,293 Speaker 3: event that echoes across decades, and he's drawn on into 104 00:05:06,453 --> 00:05:09,333 Speaker 3: views and never be seen files and he constructs the 105 00:05:09,493 --> 00:05:13,013 Speaker 3: six days from numerous perspectives, the terrorists have forced into 106 00:05:13,053 --> 00:05:17,213 Speaker 3: a situation, and the essays to life, and the professional 107 00:05:17,213 --> 00:05:20,293 Speaker 3: men doing their job to try and end the siege. 108 00:05:20,493 --> 00:05:24,773 Speaker 3: And then really interestingly, police constable a guy called Trevor Locke, 109 00:05:24,813 --> 00:05:27,733 Speaker 3: and he was a very ordinary man and he responds 110 00:05:27,773 --> 00:05:31,133 Speaker 3: to this terrifying situation, and he was an amazing leader 111 00:05:31,253 --> 00:05:35,813 Speaker 3: with unbelievable carriage and a very high stakes operation. And 112 00:05:35,893 --> 00:05:38,733 Speaker 3: it almost reads like a narrative thriller, and sometimes you 113 00:05:38,813 --> 00:05:41,173 Speaker 3: have to remind yourself that this is real evidence. 114 00:05:42,733 --> 00:05:46,213 Speaker 2: And we've also gone from here to the great unknown. 115 00:05:46,413 --> 00:05:48,933 Speaker 2: Of course this was this Lisa Marie Presley did she 116 00:05:49,053 --> 00:05:51,333 Speaker 2: begin writing this memory and it was finished for her? 117 00:05:51,413 --> 00:05:52,173 Speaker 2: Is that how this went? 118 00:05:52,573 --> 00:05:55,773 Speaker 3: Yes, she did, and she recorded I understand lots of 119 00:05:55,813 --> 00:05:59,893 Speaker 3: her memories on tape, so there was lots of lots 120 00:05:59,973 --> 00:06:02,413 Speaker 3: of things to refer back to. And Riley Keo is 121 00:06:02,453 --> 00:06:06,133 Speaker 3: her daughter, and this is told him both their voices, 122 00:06:06,373 --> 00:06:10,293 Speaker 3: both Lisa Marie and her daughters, and it's fascinating and sad, 123 00:06:10,333 --> 00:06:13,533 Speaker 3: and it talks about addiction and relationships, the great times 124 00:06:13,573 --> 00:06:17,013 Speaker 3: in their lives and some very awful moments. And Ryley 125 00:06:17,013 --> 00:06:20,613 Speaker 3: already shows her mum as a deeply flawed individual, but 126 00:06:21,093 --> 00:06:22,693 Speaker 3: you know, in a world where she's the daughter of 127 00:06:22,773 --> 00:06:26,333 Speaker 3: course of Elvis Presley, so everybody has these expectations around her. 128 00:06:26,813 --> 00:06:29,973 Speaker 3: And I was engrossed and fascinated by the story. And 129 00:06:30,013 --> 00:06:32,933 Speaker 3: I think Riley does her mother some real justice in 130 00:06:32,973 --> 00:06:34,533 Speaker 3: the way that she talks about her. And yeah, it 131 00:06:34,653 --> 00:06:39,053 Speaker 3: was it was yet painful to read, but a very 132 00:06:39,053 --> 00:06:39,773 Speaker 3: interesting story. 133 00:06:39,813 --> 00:06:43,093 Speaker 2: On the same Oh, an amazing list. Fabulous suggestions there 134 00:06:43,133 --> 00:06:45,133 Speaker 2: for Christmas and the holiday's cares broone, do you get 135 00:06:45,133 --> 00:06:47,053 Speaker 2: a break? Do you get to put the books down 136 00:06:47,373 --> 00:06:49,413 Speaker 2: or does the reading just carry on? 137 00:06:49,973 --> 00:06:52,133 Speaker 3: To be honest, the reading just carries on because it's 138 00:06:52,493 --> 00:06:54,653 Speaker 3: big part of my life and I enjoy it, so right, yeah, 139 00:06:54,653 --> 00:06:56,093 Speaker 3: I'm going to read it up, to be honest. There's 140 00:06:56,093 --> 00:06:57,893 Speaker 3: going to be some pretty light beach reading in there 141 00:06:57,933 --> 00:07:01,853 Speaker 3: at times, as well, I think. So yeah, Laks and 142 00:07:01,933 --> 00:07:02,293 Speaker 3: enjoy the. 143 00:07:02,213 --> 00:07:04,573 Speaker 2: Summer, have a lovely summer, and thank you so much 144 00:07:04,573 --> 00:07:06,333 Speaker 2: for your contribution to the show, and look forward to 145 00:07:06,773 --> 00:07:07,173 Speaker 2: next year. 146 00:07:07,733 --> 00:07:10,413 Speaker 3: Thanks Francesca, Merry Christmas, and to you too. 147 00:07:11,053 --> 00:07:12,973 Speaker 2: That was Katherine Rainsley with the list. Now we will 148 00:07:12,973 --> 00:07:14,773 Speaker 2: try and get that list up on our website News 149 00:07:14,773 --> 00:07:18,533 Speaker 2: talks eb dot co dot in z if you just 150 00:07:18,573 --> 00:07:20,333 Speaker 2: want to cover off because there was quite a list 151 00:07:20,373 --> 00:07:22,573 Speaker 2: of books there, so we will get that list up 152 00:07:22,573 --> 00:07:24,453 Speaker 2: on the website for you. If you just think, gosh, 153 00:07:24,453 --> 00:07:27,613 Speaker 2: what was that third book that Catherine spoke about? It 154 00:07:27,773 --> 00:07:30,733 Speaker 2: is sixteen to twelve. We've got some new music for 155 00:07:30,773 --> 00:07:31,613 Speaker 2: you coming up next. 156 00:07:32,453 --> 00:07:35,533 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live 157 00:07:35,653 --> 00:07:38,813 Speaker 1: to News Talks EDB from nine am Saturday, or follow 158 00:07:38,853 --> 00:07:40,453 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio