1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: So Fonterra is expanding a high protein hub seventy five 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: million dollar expansion to its Studholm factory. This is South Canterbury. 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: Of course, high proteins all about sports nutrition, medical products, 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: that sort of thing. The market's expected to grow ten billion, 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: that's US in the next four years. Are the CEO, 6 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: of course, is Miles Hurrales with us Morning to. 7 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 2: You, Good morning, Mike. 8 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: Is this niche and always niche or it's niche going 9 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 1: mainstream very. 10 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 2: Much the letter niche going mainstream. Yeah, people are starting 11 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: to use more of these products that used to be 12 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 2: just sort of the bodybuilders of the world, but it 13 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: is going mainstream and you and I might have a 14 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 2: drink or a protein bard before after your exercise. 15 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: He says, Okay, how competitives the space globally? 16 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:39,959 Speaker 2: Oh it is. I mean Northern Hemisphere are the sort 17 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 2: of the key players and not not so much down here. 18 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: But Northern Hemisphere also got some intellectual property in this 19 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 2: place as well. But we think has is unique and 20 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 2: of course we've got a good strong customer partnerships both 21 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:53,279 Speaker 2: in US and North America. Japan. Career are the key 22 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:54,639 Speaker 2: markets that we're targeting. 23 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: Does the new Zealand thing count for anything in this 24 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:58,319 Speaker 1: area or not. 25 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 2: Oh not so much in this area. That is certainly 26 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 2: the New Zealand providence sort of story resonates in a 27 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 2: lot of our product categories, mainly products that are consuming 28 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: our cheese and the like. But yeah, these products not 29 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 2: so much. It's an ingredient that goes into sort of 30 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 2: a high high value esports nutrition or medical nutrition, so 31 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: not not as much as others. 32 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: And that's where you're at. So you provide the ingredient. 33 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: You're not in the business of making the Fontierra protein bar. 34 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 2: Correct, it's it's the ingredient, but the intellectual property that 35 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 2: goes with in years of R and D have gone 36 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 2: into into these proteins, and so you're not. It's an 37 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: oportunity for us to expand our foot front here in 38 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 2: New Zealand. 39 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: I know what you're going to say, but how much 40 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: of this is psychobabble and how much of it's actual 41 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: medical and. 42 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 2: Real real I mean, you get into the you get 43 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: into into those power brands in North America, you don't. 44 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 2: You don't get the approval from from the authorities unless 45 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 2: you've done the clinical research behind it. So now hundred 46 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 2: percent of is real and as I say, we work 47 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: collectively with where their partners up there to make sure 48 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: that the products that we provided them fit their bill. 49 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: And hume of the margin at the end of the 50 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: market's quite good. 51 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 2: It is good and at lines were sort of the 52 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 2: decisions we made recently around divesting out of our consumer 53 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 2: business because we believe that the future is in this 54 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 2: B to B space, the high value proteins. And you know, 55 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 2: for us to throw seventy five million dollars at a 56 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 2: plant that was sort of aging almost at the end 57 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 2: of an economic life and given that of new Lisa 58 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 2: and I, it's great for us. 59 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. While I've got you. Haven't talked to you 60 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: since the last auction? Are you saving the country single handedly? 61 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: Here? 62 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: Things look all right now. 63 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 2: I think things look okay, although you know there are 64 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 2: some in your colleague Jamie mckaye is still sing we've 65 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 2: been a bit conservative. So the market has two and 66 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 2: for us, which is great, but it is still early days. 67 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 2: The world's not in the great shape of the ears 68 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: we all know, so we just keeping keeping a power 69 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 2: dray for a little bit. 70 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: Do you want me to have a word with Jamie? 71 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 2: He does he is his way. You know how he works. 72 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, good Miles. Nice to ketch up breach out 73 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: pretty much, Miles Harrel. I know Jamie. Anyone knows Jamie. 74 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: I know Jamie. 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