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Speaker 1: Linton Meka is an exa U can europe correspondents with

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Speaker 1: all the details, all the juice on this UIs Russia

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Speaker 1: and I should say European prisoner swap Vincent.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. This was thought to be coming for

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Speaker 2: a few days, but this surprise announcement this afternoon that

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Speaker 2: this deal has been agreed. Twenty fourth prisoners being held

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Speaker 2: in six countries, Sixteen detainees from the West being swapped

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Speaker 2: with eight who are returning to Russia. This is the

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Speaker 2: biggest prisoner exchange since the end of the Cold War.

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Speaker 2: We exclude some of those that have been in the

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Speaker 2: Ukraine conflict, and of course the most famous of those,

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Speaker 2: Evan Guskovich, the Wall Street journal journalist. He is being

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Speaker 2: returned in exchange. The Russians have managed to get the

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Speaker 2: Dim Krasikoff, who German officials identified as a colonel in

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Speaker 2: the colonel in Russia's FSB intelligence service. This swap happened

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Speaker 2: in the last few hours via Turkey, and President Biden

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Speaker 2: has been able a press conference in the White House

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Speaker 2: marking the end of what he's said to be a

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Speaker 2: brutal ordeal for many of these families and the victims

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Speaker 2: and has been seeing as quite a diplomatic triumph for

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Speaker 2: President Biden, whose administration has been working on this for

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Speaker 2: years to coordinate with multiple countries, as you mentioned, across

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Speaker 2: Europe to get this exchange over the line.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty incredible that they hand over a convicted

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Speaker 1: murderer though from Germany, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Vincent?

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Speaker 1: That rioting that happened in Southport. The murder accused has

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Speaker 1: now been named and appeared in court. Who is this person?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is seventeen year old Axel Ruder Kubanna now

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Speaker 2: under Eighteens in British justice are normally kept anonymized unless

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Speaker 2: there is a public interest in revealing. The newspapers here

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Speaker 2: mounted a claim and that was accepted by the judge

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Speaker 2: that he should be identified given the nature of the crime.

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Speaker 2: He has been charged for three counts of murder, ten

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Speaker 2: council attempted murder and one counter possessing a bladed article.

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Speaker 2: He's been remanded in youth custody. And of course this

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Speaker 2: is a complex operation. This traveling likely to take place

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Speaker 2: next year at the earliest. But what's been interesting is

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Speaker 2: the Kirstama has taken two Downing Street for a press

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Speaker 2: conference this afternoon where he's been denouncing the actions of

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Speaker 2: what he said were gangs of thugs who've exploited this

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Speaker 2: tragedy and traveled to Southport and then to Downing Street

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Speaker 2: last night, fueled by false information wilfully being put out

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Speaker 2: on social media by the far rights, not just in

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Speaker 2: this country but other countries to soak up resentment towards

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Speaker 2: migrants to this country. And we have over one hundred

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Speaker 2: rests in London's night for what was a pretty violent,

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Speaker 2: horrible protest. At some point Nazi salutes were spotted in it,

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Speaker 2: all of them claiming that they were there because they

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Speaker 2: wanted to see greater child protection, but really it was

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Speaker 2: a pretty ugly.

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Speaker 1: Affair sounds so, thanks so much for your time, Vincent mcavinie.

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