1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,520 Speaker 1: So the price of coming to the country as a 2 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: tourist is going up, that the visitor levy goes from 3 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: thirty five to one hundred bucks, And so the great 4 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 1: debate begins. New Zealand Airport Association CEO Billy Moore's well, 5 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: this's Billy morning to you. 6 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 2: Good morning. 7 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: The Minister argues, everybody submitted wanted it. Did you submit absolutely? 8 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 2: We did, yes. 9 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: And did you ask for an increase? 10 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 2: No? Absolutely, night. So the airports and airlines are pretty 11 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 2: united on this where we asked for it to remain 12 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: remain at thirty five dollars, particularly in light of all 13 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 2: of the other cost increases that are coming through on 14 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 2: the border that actually pay for functions like border processing 15 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 2: secretly these things like that. So we didn't see any 16 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 2: case for bumping this up, particularly when what it's actually 17 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 2: used for is not even defined in the consultation. 18 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: Most people did say they wanted an increase. The problem 19 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: appears to be many of the people who wanted an increase, 20 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: they'd say, how about fifty bucks, not one hundred, and 21 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: the hundred is the one that's killed it. Is that fair? 22 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: Is in your estimation? 23 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: It is fair? They're right there in the submissions process 24 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 2: that you know, a lot of individuals submitted wanting visitors 25 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 2: to pay more. I think ultimately we have a bit 26 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 2: of an attitude problem about tourists which has permeated government 27 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 2: agencies thinking as well over the years, where they're very 28 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: much focused on how to get visitors to pay more 29 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 2: more at the border and into the crown, rather than 30 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 2: getting visitors to pay more into the economy, which would 31 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 2: better contribute to businesses and jobs around the region. 32 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: Well, listening to Ducie yesterday, there's one hundred and something 33 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,639 Speaker 1: million going into the regions and they're the national parks 34 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: and the facilities that the tourists use. That's good, isn't it. 35 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 2: Look any money that goes into the regions is good. 36 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 2: The problem is that this international Visitor Levy hasn't been 37 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 2: used where it's meant to have been used since twenty nineteen, 38 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 2: So no money has ever made its way to local 39 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 2: government from this fund, and that's what it was expected 40 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 2: to be used for. So addressed the visitor preators in 41 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 2: those locations. 42 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: Takes that bit, would you be more on board? 43 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 2: Look, maybe under previous circumstances we'd be more open to that, 44 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 2: but under the current circumstances where visas have already gone 45 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 2: up so much where it's now costing visitors double even 46 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 2: last year to cross the border and it's seventy percent 47 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 2: more expensive then Australia. So our problem is that while 48 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 2: there might be some good intentions by some of this stuff, 49 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 2: ultimately we could lose out on the GST spend and 50 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 2: the visitor spend that we actually want in the economy 51 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 2: rather than at being scooped up at the border for 52 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:36,959 Speaker 2: these Crown funds. 53 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: I appreciate your inside. There's always Billy Moore, who's the 54 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: New Zealand Airport's Association Chief executive. 55 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 2: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 56 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 2: news talks. 57 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: There'd be from six am weekdays, or follow the podcast 58 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio