1 00:00:09,093 --> 00:00:11,972 Speaker 1: You're listening to a podcast from News talk S ed B. 2 00:00:12,373 --> 00:00:16,133 Speaker 1: Follow this and our Wide Ranger podcast now on iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:16,733 --> 00:00:18,893 Speaker 2: Hello you, great New Zealanders, and welcome to Matt and 4 00:00:18,893 --> 00:00:25,532 Speaker 2: Tyler Afternoon's podcast, number seventy one and phenomenal, haven't we've 5 00:00:25,533 --> 00:00:26,972 Speaker 2: done this year? And we'll just took that one, number 6 00:00:27,013 --> 00:00:27,493 Speaker 2: seventy one. 7 00:00:27,613 --> 00:00:28,493 Speaker 3: That's a lot of podcasts. 8 00:00:28,573 --> 00:00:31,013 Speaker 4: Great, great show today. Certainly there's a lot on. 9 00:00:30,973 --> 00:00:35,333 Speaker 2: It, but it ends up in a furious hour of 10 00:00:35,533 --> 00:00:37,613 Speaker 2: rating the Hollywood. 11 00:00:37,173 --> 00:00:40,532 Speaker 3: Hunks controversial and man omen Yeah, did we get some 12 00:00:40,613 --> 00:00:41,772 Speaker 3: texts and phocals on that? 13 00:00:41,973 --> 00:00:44,132 Speaker 4: Well, Lombard, let's just say listen to the end. 14 00:00:44,132 --> 00:00:45,852 Speaker 2: But let's just say if Brad Pitt is one of 15 00:00:45,893 --> 00:00:49,573 Speaker 2: the people listening, you're gonna have your heart, bro. 16 00:00:49,732 --> 00:00:51,053 Speaker 3: You're gonna be all right. 17 00:00:51,132 --> 00:00:54,933 Speaker 4: Sit to download, follow and subscribe and share and such 18 00:00:55,013 --> 00:00:58,053 Speaker 4: and thank you for tuning in, bless you, love you 19 00:00:58,173 --> 00:00:59,013 Speaker 4: and gim taste care. 20 00:00:59,053 --> 00:01:01,933 Speaker 5: We talking with you all afternoon. 21 00:01:02,133 --> 00:01:05,493 Speaker 1: It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons with the Volvo 22 00:01:05,773 --> 00:01:07,333 Speaker 1: XC ninety News talk S EDB. 23 00:01:08,693 --> 00:01:11,293 Speaker 3: Hello to you, welcome into the show. Hope you're having 24 00:01:11,293 --> 00:01:13,932 Speaker 3: a great afternoon. We certainly aren't getting Maddie. 25 00:01:14,253 --> 00:01:15,812 Speaker 4: Yeah, a Tyler, how are you today? 26 00:01:16,173 --> 00:01:19,293 Speaker 3: Fantastic for a Thursday, and we've got a doozy of 27 00:01:19,333 --> 00:01:22,533 Speaker 3: a show for you after three point thirty. Brad Pitt 28 00:01:22,572 --> 00:01:25,572 Speaker 3: is apparently in the country somewhere, maybe in Auckland, maybe 29 00:01:25,572 --> 00:01:30,093 Speaker 3: in Queensdown, shooting a film. But the broader question we're 30 00:01:30,093 --> 00:01:31,973 Speaker 3: going to put to you is is Brad Pitt the 31 00:01:31,973 --> 00:01:33,732 Speaker 3: biggest actor of this generation? 32 00:01:33,932 --> 00:01:36,292 Speaker 2: Or is he the best? Who are the best actors 33 00:01:36,292 --> 00:01:39,853 Speaker 2: of our generation? Because Brad Pitt's been in a whole 34 00:01:39,853 --> 00:01:41,253 Speaker 2: lot of movies. We're going to talk about this today 35 00:01:41,253 --> 00:01:43,053 Speaker 2: around out of time, but he is he better than 36 00:01:43,053 --> 00:01:43,773 Speaker 2: Tom Hanks? 37 00:01:44,493 --> 00:01:45,012 Speaker 4: Is he more. 38 00:01:44,932 --> 00:01:47,773 Speaker 2: Significant than Robert de Niro? Yeah, that's a tough one 39 00:01:47,813 --> 00:01:52,813 Speaker 2: to argue. Yukuin Phoenix. Obviously, Yukwin Phoenix isn't a crazy man. Yeah, 40 00:01:53,053 --> 00:01:54,813 Speaker 2: he's generally a pretty good actor, but you wouldn't want 41 00:01:54,853 --> 00:01:58,533 Speaker 2: to have to talk to him. Leonardo DiCaprio, Denzel Washington, 42 00:01:58,533 --> 00:01:59,853 Speaker 2: Now that's a great actor. 43 00:01:59,933 --> 00:02:02,493 Speaker 3: He is a very good actor and consistent as well. 44 00:02:02,973 --> 00:02:05,773 Speaker 3: Because you could argue Brad He's been in some fantastic 45 00:02:05,813 --> 00:02:07,813 Speaker 3: films in the nineties, But I think he's been at 46 00:02:07,813 --> 00:02:10,613 Speaker 3: his best the last ten years. But we'll raise that 47 00:02:10,693 --> 00:02:13,253 Speaker 3: question after three thirty. After three o'clock, are we just 48 00:02:13,293 --> 00:02:16,692 Speaker 3: a massive nation of complainers? A few stories that hit 49 00:02:16,733 --> 00:02:19,813 Speaker 3: the headlines this week, of course, the wannaker McDonald's not 50 00:02:19,853 --> 00:02:23,453 Speaker 3: getting the go ahead, a bunch of people in Naseby, 51 00:02:23,493 --> 00:02:25,893 Speaker 3: and nothing against Naseby, but they said no thanks to 52 00:02:25,933 --> 00:02:30,453 Speaker 3: a big solar farm nearby that community. And then a 53 00:02:30,493 --> 00:02:33,773 Speaker 3: pushback from the Salwyn District Council with a new development 54 00:02:34,093 --> 00:02:37,453 Speaker 3: saying that future homeowners should be able to complain about 55 00:02:37,453 --> 00:02:41,613 Speaker 3: it artillery range that is in the vicinity. 56 00:02:41,653 --> 00:02:44,373 Speaker 2: We're a nation of complainers. After two o'clock Should you 57 00:02:44,373 --> 00:02:46,133 Speaker 2: be able to use your phone at work? Can your 58 00:02:46,173 --> 00:02:48,173 Speaker 2: boss tell you get off your phone? If what percentage 59 00:02:48,173 --> 00:02:49,653 Speaker 2: of your day? Should you be allowed to be on 60 00:02:49,693 --> 00:02:53,133 Speaker 2: your phone? This is after a Queenstand fencing company. A 61 00:02:53,173 --> 00:02:55,773 Speaker 2: boss told a young employee to get off his phone 62 00:02:56,173 --> 00:02:58,213 Speaker 2: and there's been it's all been brought up in the 63 00:02:58,252 --> 00:03:00,493 Speaker 2: employment court. So should your boss be able to tell 64 00:03:00,493 --> 00:03:02,213 Speaker 2: you off the phone? And should you be on your 65 00:03:02,213 --> 00:03:03,693 Speaker 2: phone at all if you're on the payroll? 66 00:03:03,813 --> 00:03:05,893 Speaker 3: Yep, that's going to be a good discussion. After two o'clock. 67 00:03:05,893 --> 00:03:08,532 Speaker 2: But right now you're always on your phone, Tyler. But 68 00:03:08,532 --> 00:03:10,493 Speaker 2: the gioscy phone you don't even turn off. If you're 69 00:03:10,493 --> 00:03:12,813 Speaker 2: listening to the show, you'll hear Tyler's phone bing. 70 00:03:13,053 --> 00:03:15,213 Speaker 3: The Boss hasn't even said anything at the moment. I've 71 00:03:15,213 --> 00:03:18,453 Speaker 3: been speaking about beings. I'm the boss, remember those beings 72 00:03:18,532 --> 00:03:21,413 Speaker 3: and when we started the show. But that is going 73 00:03:21,453 --> 00:03:24,853 Speaker 3: to be a good discussion after two o'clock, because right now, 74 00:03:24,853 --> 00:03:28,532 Speaker 3: do you care where your key we Savior funds are invested? 75 00:03:28,573 --> 00:03:31,893 Speaker 3: This is on the back of a survey by Mindful Money. 76 00:03:31,933 --> 00:03:35,173 Speaker 3: They found more than nine billions, nine billion rather of 77 00:03:35,253 --> 00:03:37,813 Speaker 3: New Zealander's money has been invested in companies causing harm 78 00:03:37,853 --> 00:03:40,133 Speaker 3: to people, animals and the environments. 79 00:03:40,813 --> 00:03:42,693 Speaker 2: Yeah, that seems a little bit asked to me one 80 00:03:42,733 --> 00:03:44,773 Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty nine, two ninety two. If 81 00:03:44,773 --> 00:03:47,293 Speaker 2: you want to text us that you have to pick 82 00:03:47,293 --> 00:03:49,133 Speaker 2: a key we saver, and then people are askling you 83 00:03:49,173 --> 00:03:51,773 Speaker 2: to pick a key we saver with some provisos. I mean, 84 00:03:51,813 --> 00:03:55,213 Speaker 2: we're all working hard enough, we get these alarmist messages 85 00:03:55,213 --> 00:03:57,213 Speaker 2: and how much we have to save for our retirement. 86 00:03:57,293 --> 00:03:59,693 Speaker 2: Sometimes yet two million, one million, who's going to be 87 00:03:59,693 --> 00:04:01,333 Speaker 2: able to have a million most people not people in 88 00:04:01,333 --> 00:04:04,653 Speaker 2: New Zealand. And on top of that, these people are saying, no, 89 00:04:05,133 --> 00:04:06,813 Speaker 2: it's not just saving for your retirement and not being 90 00:04:06,853 --> 00:04:09,413 Speaker 2: a burden on your family or the state you retire. 91 00:04:09,893 --> 00:04:13,093 Speaker 4: Also also it has to be ethical. 92 00:04:14,093 --> 00:04:17,213 Speaker 3: Well, let's run through where some of this money is 93 00:04:17,333 --> 00:04:20,693 Speaker 3: being invested. According to my Mindful Money, So human rights 94 00:04:20,773 --> 00:04:22,053 Speaker 3: violations two billion dollars. 95 00:04:22,293 --> 00:04:23,333 Speaker 4: But who defines these? 96 00:04:23,653 --> 00:04:28,293 Speaker 3: Well, they would include labor rights violations, war and conflict, 97 00:04:28,333 --> 00:04:31,813 Speaker 3: breaches of business ethics which cause harm in public safety issues, 98 00:04:31,853 --> 00:04:33,493 Speaker 3: public safety issues, that's a weird one. 99 00:04:33,613 --> 00:04:36,813 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean all those things is all in the definition, 100 00:04:36,893 --> 00:04:37,413 Speaker 2: isn't it? 101 00:04:37,493 --> 00:04:38,413 Speaker 4: Animal cruelty? 102 00:04:38,613 --> 00:04:40,693 Speaker 2: Mindful Money s data showed one point six billion of 103 00:04:40,773 --> 00:04:43,973 Speaker 2: KI SABER funds were invested in companies which, whether deliberately 104 00:04:44,093 --> 00:04:47,813 Speaker 2: or through negligence, cause harm, suffering or distress to animals. Well, 105 00:04:47,853 --> 00:04:53,493 Speaker 2: what about the five hundred grams of prime beef New 106 00:04:53,613 --> 00:04:56,413 Speaker 2: Zealand bf I A last night. I mean that's cruelty animals? 107 00:04:56,613 --> 00:04:59,733 Speaker 2: Are they including that in it? Or what's cruelty to animals? 108 00:04:59,813 --> 00:04:59,973 Speaker 6: Yeah? 109 00:05:00,173 --> 00:05:03,333 Speaker 3: Environmental harm seven hundred million dollars is invested in companies 110 00:05:03,333 --> 00:05:07,693 Speaker 3: involved in environmentally damaging activities like deforestation, the use of 111 00:05:07,813 --> 00:05:10,853 Speaker 3: highly as it has pested asides, palm oil production, and 112 00:05:10,933 --> 00:05:13,773 Speaker 3: genetically modified organisms. I thought we were kind of okay 113 00:05:13,773 --> 00:05:14,333 Speaker 3: with GMOs. 114 00:05:14,333 --> 00:05:16,573 Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, and there are these people that are saying 115 00:05:16,613 --> 00:05:18,813 Speaker 2: that you can't invest your kiwisaver and stuff. What clothes 116 00:05:18,813 --> 00:05:21,933 Speaker 2: are they wearing, what phones are they using, what kind 117 00:05:21,933 --> 00:05:22,893 Speaker 2: of cars are they driving? 118 00:05:23,013 --> 00:05:24,613 Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Like, so it's just on 119 00:05:24,653 --> 00:05:27,173 Speaker 4: your kisaber that you have to you have to zero 120 00:05:27,333 --> 00:05:29,413 Speaker 4: in on things that are supposedly bad for the environment. 121 00:05:29,533 --> 00:05:32,013 Speaker 3: But I'm looking through this list here, animal cruelty. I'm 122 00:05:32,013 --> 00:05:34,413 Speaker 3: going to pick up on that because you love animals. 123 00:05:34,493 --> 00:05:37,613 Speaker 3: I love animals, and I think this line here that 124 00:05:37,693 --> 00:05:41,413 Speaker 3: if they are deliberately are deliberately causing harm, suffering, or 125 00:05:41,453 --> 00:05:43,773 Speaker 3: distress to animals. I mean maybe the distressed part is 126 00:05:43,773 --> 00:05:46,093 Speaker 3: a bit too much, but I wouldn't if my money 127 00:05:46,133 --> 00:05:49,813 Speaker 3: has been invested in a company that is deliberately pouring 128 00:05:50,053 --> 00:05:53,773 Speaker 3: things over rabbits and monkeys and mice while still that 129 00:05:53,893 --> 00:05:56,613 Speaker 3: there's no pain, medication or anything else. You know, cosmetic 130 00:05:56,653 --> 00:05:58,933 Speaker 3: companies they exist out there. I would have a problem 131 00:05:58,933 --> 00:06:00,213 Speaker 3: with it. It's absolutely problem. 132 00:06:00,373 --> 00:06:02,333 Speaker 2: You think that's one point six billion is going into 133 00:06:02,333 --> 00:06:05,213 Speaker 2: people pouring shampoo into bunny's eyes. 134 00:06:05,333 --> 00:06:06,533 Speaker 4: Do you think that's what it is? No? 135 00:06:06,693 --> 00:06:08,493 Speaker 3: But if I found that that was the so I 136 00:06:08,493 --> 00:06:10,133 Speaker 3: wouldn't want to be associated with that company. 137 00:06:11,093 --> 00:06:13,933 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, all right, good on you. Well, aren't you 138 00:06:14,093 --> 00:06:15,733 Speaker 2: just a better person than other people that are just 139 00:06:15,773 --> 00:06:17,933 Speaker 2: saving for their retirement and worried about how they're going 140 00:06:17,973 --> 00:06:20,493 Speaker 2: to feed themselves until until they die? 141 00:06:20,693 --> 00:06:20,813 Speaker 7: Oh? 142 00:06:20,893 --> 00:06:23,773 Speaker 3: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty Do you care where your 143 00:06:23,813 --> 00:06:26,493 Speaker 3: money is invested? Look, it's a fear point that if 144 00:06:26,493 --> 00:06:30,693 Speaker 3: it's legal there and it's making money, what is the problem. 145 00:06:30,773 --> 00:06:33,973 Speaker 3: Nine two ninety two is the text number. Love to 146 00:06:33,973 --> 00:06:36,053 Speaker 3: hear from you on this one. 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It is quarter past one and 155 00:06:59,373 --> 00:07:02,853 Speaker 3: we're chatting about key we Saver investments or investments in general. 156 00:07:02,933 --> 00:07:05,613 Speaker 3: Do you care where your key we saver money is 157 00:07:05,653 --> 00:07:07,733 Speaker 3: invested as long as it's making money? 158 00:07:07,813 --> 00:07:11,653 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that I don't her Doraine, What are 159 00:07:11,693 --> 00:07:12,293 Speaker 2: your thoughts on this? 160 00:07:13,373 --> 00:07:13,493 Speaker 8: Oh? 161 00:07:13,573 --> 00:07:17,213 Speaker 9: Yeah, I do care, But I'm not an idealist. I mean, 162 00:07:17,253 --> 00:07:20,053 Speaker 9: the reality is we need petrol, we need gas, we 163 00:07:20,093 --> 00:07:22,933 Speaker 9: need all these fossil fuels right now. You know, idealists 164 00:07:22,973 --> 00:07:26,373 Speaker 9: still get on buses, trains and drive somewhere, so they 165 00:07:26,493 --> 00:07:29,653 Speaker 9: use the facilities and keep me banks another step onto that. 166 00:07:29,813 --> 00:07:35,533 Speaker 9: So not an idealist, but weapons, cruelty, people trafficking, you 167 00:07:35,573 --> 00:07:41,373 Speaker 9: know those really really disgusting things that aren't actually acceptable 168 00:07:41,453 --> 00:07:46,253 Speaker 9: anywhere anyway. So I mean, you've got to be pragmatic, 169 00:07:46,333 --> 00:07:51,453 Speaker 9: you've got to be you know, smart. Well, what else 170 00:07:51,493 --> 00:07:53,253 Speaker 9: can you do? You can take things down to the 171 00:07:53,333 --> 00:07:57,933 Speaker 9: nitty gritty and protest about this or don't like this. Yeah, 172 00:07:58,053 --> 00:08:00,293 Speaker 9: idealism is great for young people. When I was young, 173 00:08:00,333 --> 00:08:03,293 Speaker 9: I was an idealist, not over the top, but you 174 00:08:03,373 --> 00:08:06,173 Speaker 9: know it's great because it keeps us in check. We 175 00:08:06,293 --> 00:08:08,733 Speaker 9: have to think about what we're doing, that's right. You know, 176 00:08:08,733 --> 00:08:11,613 Speaker 9: where did that you know, where did that meat come from? 177 00:08:11,853 --> 00:08:11,893 Speaker 5: That? 178 00:08:12,213 --> 00:08:17,013 Speaker 9: Was it animal treated cruelly or whatever? Great idealism holds 179 00:08:17,093 --> 00:08:21,413 Speaker 9: us to check. But then there's reality of life would 180 00:08:21,453 --> 00:08:25,813 Speaker 9: stop as we know it if we stopped accepting petrol 181 00:08:26,133 --> 00:08:29,813 Speaker 9: or gas or you know a lot of things in life. 182 00:08:30,213 --> 00:08:31,293 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And it. 183 00:08:31,293 --> 00:08:34,173 Speaker 2: Seems to me a little bit, And I wonder what 184 00:08:34,173 --> 00:08:37,413 Speaker 2: your thoughts on this door and is it a luxury belief? 185 00:08:37,453 --> 00:08:39,533 Speaker 2: Like when everything's sorted out and you're in a position 186 00:08:39,852 --> 00:08:43,772 Speaker 2: and you know that your your retirement's going to be okay, 187 00:08:44,653 --> 00:08:48,252 Speaker 2: then you could maybe start thinking about where you know, 188 00:08:49,132 --> 00:08:52,093 Speaker 2: where the money was. But if you're just worried about 189 00:08:52,093 --> 00:08:57,933 Speaker 2: being able to survive as a retiree, then it's pretty 190 00:08:57,933 --> 00:09:00,213 Speaker 2: harsh for me. It seems like you're lackering guilt on 191 00:09:00,252 --> 00:09:01,493 Speaker 2: people that are just trying to get. 192 00:09:01,333 --> 00:09:05,573 Speaker 9: By, And it is a luxury idealism? Is a luxury 193 00:09:05,732 --> 00:09:08,172 Speaker 9: you're a starving person? Or where did that come from? 194 00:09:08,933 --> 00:09:11,852 Speaker 9: Was the animal treated fully? Or I'm in a freezing 195 00:09:11,933 --> 00:09:15,293 Speaker 9: cold environment and I skin an animal to keep warm more? 196 00:09:15,612 --> 00:09:17,773 Speaker 9: You know, no, I don't want that lovely, lovely coat 197 00:09:17,852 --> 00:09:20,733 Speaker 9: because it's made by animal or it's synthetic, or you know, 198 00:09:20,773 --> 00:09:23,573 Speaker 9: we would be naked as well. The synthetic, you know, 199 00:09:23,852 --> 00:09:27,893 Speaker 9: and and pollution, the micro feeds, plastics and things. You know, 200 00:09:28,053 --> 00:09:30,893 Speaker 9: the reality is we've got to eat and work and 201 00:09:30,973 --> 00:09:34,693 Speaker 9: travel and do all these things mitigation as best we can. 202 00:09:35,053 --> 00:09:37,853 Speaker 9: No way the world's going to meet the fossil fuel 203 00:09:37,892 --> 00:09:40,892 Speaker 9: reduction time. We're not there yet. We need a lot 204 00:09:40,973 --> 00:09:43,693 Speaker 9: more time to get things in place. But you're giving 205 00:09:43,693 --> 00:09:46,253 Speaker 9: it a go. You're trying. You know, that's all you 206 00:09:46,293 --> 00:09:50,133 Speaker 9: can do. You do your best. And people outside protesting 207 00:09:50,173 --> 00:09:52,933 Speaker 9: outside these banks. I mean, the people working in the 208 00:09:52,973 --> 00:09:55,653 Speaker 9: banks are doing their best. The people investing their money 209 00:09:55,693 --> 00:09:59,253 Speaker 9: are doing the best. Everybody's doing their best. As you 210 00:09:59,333 --> 00:10:01,853 Speaker 9: know it. It's a big corporates that push things on 211 00:10:01,933 --> 00:10:05,333 Speaker 9: to people. So you're mindful, but you're not over the top. 212 00:10:05,732 --> 00:10:08,133 Speaker 9: I mean, it's a funny way to live, really, isn't it? 213 00:10:08,333 --> 00:10:08,933 Speaker 4: Case said Dora. 214 00:10:08,973 --> 00:10:10,492 Speaker 2: And can I ask you, and you don't have to 215 00:10:10,533 --> 00:10:13,053 Speaker 2: answer this because it's personal financial information, but have you 216 00:10:13,213 --> 00:10:16,573 Speaker 2: locked into into any of your investments and to see 217 00:10:16,573 --> 00:10:18,653 Speaker 2: if they're their ethical? 218 00:10:19,852 --> 00:10:21,772 Speaker 9: Well, yeah, we haven't got a lot, but I hadn't 219 00:10:21,773 --> 00:10:23,893 Speaker 9: looked into it to see if they're ethical. But I've 220 00:10:23,933 --> 00:10:26,252 Speaker 9: looked in to see what's the greatest return I could 221 00:10:26,333 --> 00:10:30,372 Speaker 9: have through sight And that's the honesty. Yeah, you know, 222 00:10:30,573 --> 00:10:36,973 Speaker 9: I'm the last of baby boomers, just reduced work. But 223 00:10:37,653 --> 00:10:40,213 Speaker 9: you want me to pay for my retirement. But you 224 00:10:40,293 --> 00:10:43,333 Speaker 9: don't want me to get the maximum return on my 225 00:10:43,453 --> 00:10:46,733 Speaker 9: money because it doesn't sit your lifestyle. You can't have 226 00:10:46,852 --> 00:10:48,973 Speaker 9: your cake and eat it as long as it's not 227 00:10:49,132 --> 00:10:51,413 Speaker 9: sugar free cake. And you know you're not using too 228 00:10:51,453 --> 00:10:53,253 Speaker 9: much better and your heart's right. I mean, we could 229 00:10:53,293 --> 00:10:57,133 Speaker 9: go really crazy on limiting ourselves in life, or we 230 00:10:57,213 --> 00:11:00,213 Speaker 9: could help out. And you know what older people do, 231 00:11:00,252 --> 00:11:03,333 Speaker 9: as you, they consider how much they're putting in. They 232 00:11:03,372 --> 00:11:06,973 Speaker 9: consider their children and their grandchildren next, and then and 233 00:11:07,132 --> 00:11:10,052 Speaker 9: then they will be probably considering where does this come from. 234 00:11:10,132 --> 00:11:12,693 Speaker 9: I just trust that my key we savor, has got 235 00:11:12,693 --> 00:11:15,813 Speaker 9: a whole lot of people that aren't devoid of of 236 00:11:16,093 --> 00:11:19,333 Speaker 9: passion and aren't devoid of you know that they're not 237 00:11:19,533 --> 00:11:20,732 Speaker 9: going to do the best and they're not going to 238 00:11:20,773 --> 00:11:22,772 Speaker 9: destroy the world as we know it in order to 239 00:11:22,773 --> 00:11:23,933 Speaker 9: give me my little return. 240 00:11:24,293 --> 00:11:26,693 Speaker 4: Okay, or I thank you so much for your call, Doreen. 241 00:11:26,732 --> 00:11:27,852 Speaker 4: I appreciate it. 242 00:11:27,933 --> 00:11:28,093 Speaker 10: Yeah. 243 00:11:28,093 --> 00:11:29,132 Speaker 4: And it's also what. 244 00:11:29,053 --> 00:11:31,573 Speaker 2: People define, so that these people are defining it. And 245 00:11:31,653 --> 00:11:34,453 Speaker 2: of course, boy, if you want to, if you want 246 00:11:34,453 --> 00:11:37,252 Speaker 2: to invest ethically, and it sounds like you do, tired, 247 00:11:37,252 --> 00:11:38,773 Speaker 2: it sounds like you've done all one to eighty from 248 00:11:38,813 --> 00:11:40,612 Speaker 2: when we first talked about this. Yep, that you you 249 00:11:40,973 --> 00:11:44,252 Speaker 2: think that it's important to invest what is defined by 250 00:11:44,293 --> 00:11:47,213 Speaker 2: these people as ethically. But you know, I do a 251 00:11:47,213 --> 00:11:49,372 Speaker 2: full order on someone that's suggesting that I'd do an 252 00:11:49,453 --> 00:11:52,372 Speaker 2: order on, as I said before, what they're driving, what they're. 253 00:11:52,213 --> 00:11:54,213 Speaker 4: Wearing, what their house has made out. 254 00:11:54,252 --> 00:11:57,132 Speaker 2: There's there's a lot of unethical stuff according to these 255 00:11:57,533 --> 00:12:00,053 Speaker 2: definitions of unethical that I'm sure all these people are doing. 256 00:12:00,173 --> 00:12:00,253 Speaker 6: Ye. 257 00:12:00,533 --> 00:12:02,573 Speaker 3: Well, thank you for bringing that up, because I've just 258 00:12:02,612 --> 00:12:04,973 Speaker 3: had a look on this Mindful Money website and they 259 00:12:04,973 --> 00:12:06,973 Speaker 3: break it down, and I've looked at my particular fund 260 00:12:07,213 --> 00:12:09,533 Speaker 3: and there's nothing there onimal cruelty. But this is where 261 00:12:09,533 --> 00:12:12,813 Speaker 3: I question what they would consider sor they've called this 262 00:12:13,093 --> 00:12:16,373 Speaker 3: human rights violations right, and there's a wee mark. They 263 00:12:16,372 --> 00:12:19,093 Speaker 3: call it public safety on meta platforms, which is Facebook. 264 00:12:19,213 --> 00:12:22,493 Speaker 3: I disagree with that. I mean, as someone that uses Facebook, 265 00:12:22,492 --> 00:12:24,573 Speaker 3: how can I then turn around and say I don't 266 00:12:24,573 --> 00:12:27,412 Speaker 3: want any money invested in meta platforms? That to me 267 00:12:27,492 --> 00:12:29,573 Speaker 3: would be hypocrisy. So this is why what. 268 00:12:29,533 --> 00:12:31,852 Speaker 4: Are they saying that for? What's what's investment on meta? 269 00:12:32,173 --> 00:12:34,173 Speaker 3: So public safety? I'm just going to read this Meta 270 00:12:34,252 --> 00:12:36,813 Speaker 3: is the world's largest online social network, consisting of the 271 00:12:36,813 --> 00:12:40,893 Speaker 3: Facebook app, Instagram, Messenger, WhatsApp, and many features surrounding these products. 272 00:12:40,933 --> 00:12:43,493 Speaker 3: The company has face several investigations and legal action link 273 00:12:43,533 --> 00:12:48,013 Speaker 3: to privacy related allegations, including its handling of user data 274 00:12:48,333 --> 00:12:51,293 Speaker 3: and breaches of user privacy. Meta has also been criticized 275 00:12:51,293 --> 00:12:53,732 Speaker 3: for its poor governance model, as well as allowing its 276 00:12:53,732 --> 00:12:56,173 Speaker 3: platform in non English speaking countries to be used to 277 00:12:56,252 --> 00:12:57,533 Speaker 3: incite violence. 278 00:12:57,732 --> 00:13:00,852 Speaker 2: See so they've come with I mean, they've got their 279 00:13:00,892 --> 00:13:03,653 Speaker 2: biases of what is ethical and what's not ethical. So 280 00:13:03,693 --> 00:13:05,612 Speaker 2: before you follow what they do, you want to look 281 00:13:05,693 --> 00:13:09,853 Speaker 2: heavily into what they're talking about there, because you know, 282 00:13:10,132 --> 00:13:12,093 Speaker 2: maybe you don't want to be investing in Meta, but 283 00:13:12,132 --> 00:13:14,573 Speaker 2: you're still using a lot of people are using Facebook, 284 00:13:14,693 --> 00:13:17,732 Speaker 2: so would you if you would, you just have to 285 00:13:17,732 --> 00:13:19,573 Speaker 2: pull out a Facebook as well. So I don't want 286 00:13:19,573 --> 00:13:21,773 Speaker 2: to be involved with them ethically at all. I mean, 287 00:13:21,773 --> 00:13:23,173 Speaker 2: it's probably a good thing for you not being on 288 00:13:23,173 --> 00:13:26,253 Speaker 2: Facebook and Instagram, but you know what I'm saying, it's 289 00:13:26,333 --> 00:13:26,573 Speaker 2: like the. 290 00:13:26,612 --> 00:13:28,413 Speaker 3: Hypocrisy is rife. You'd have to if you're going to 291 00:13:28,453 --> 00:13:30,732 Speaker 3: take that stance, And I am on Facebook, So I 292 00:13:30,732 --> 00:13:33,813 Speaker 3: don't necessarily, I sarioly agree with their finding there. When 293 00:13:33,852 --> 00:13:36,133 Speaker 3: it comes to the meta platforms, A charity on Facebook, 294 00:13:36,933 --> 00:13:40,492 Speaker 3: mindful money, Yeah, I have a lock No my good points. Again, 295 00:13:40,533 --> 00:13:43,573 Speaker 3: they've mentioned Uber technologies, so they say are labor rights 296 00:13:43,653 --> 00:13:46,053 Speaker 3: violations and let's bring up I use Uber all the time. 297 00:13:46,293 --> 00:13:48,573 Speaker 3: Uber is a ride and food delivery service provider. Evidence 298 00:13:48,573 --> 00:13:52,372 Speaker 3: show the company has been prioritizeding revenue growth overdriver wealth 299 00:13:52,453 --> 00:13:55,093 Speaker 3: there and user safety as Uber considers it strivers to 300 00:13:55,093 --> 00:13:58,333 Speaker 3: be contractors. Dot dot dot dot dot again. You know 301 00:13:58,372 --> 00:14:05,093 Speaker 3: it's spurious and obviously my particular fund invested in fossil fuels. 302 00:14:05,093 --> 00:14:08,093 Speaker 3: I drive a car. How can I be against petrol 303 00:14:08,093 --> 00:14:09,973 Speaker 3: cump He's a white driver car. But love to hear 304 00:14:09,973 --> 00:14:11,413 Speaker 3: from you on this one. I had one hundred and 305 00:14:11,413 --> 00:14:13,453 Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Nine two 306 00:14:13,573 --> 00:14:16,732 Speaker 3: ninety two is the text number. It is twenty two 307 00:14:16,773 --> 00:14:17,213 Speaker 3: past one. 308 00:14:19,013 --> 00:14:22,893 Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking breakfast. 309 00:14:23,053 --> 00:14:25,213 Speaker 11: If I heard Adrian or correctly, fifty points will come 310 00:14:25,253 --> 00:14:27,173 Speaker 11: with another couple of cuts shortly, and at that point, 311 00:14:27,213 --> 00:14:30,413 Speaker 11: all things being equal, we are in neutral territory. Adrian 312 00:14:30,453 --> 00:14:33,573 Speaker 11: Ore's with us. The banks have passed on some but 313 00:14:33,733 --> 00:14:35,573 Speaker 11: not all. Is that acceptable or not? 314 00:14:35,853 --> 00:14:37,013 Speaker 12: The banks need to do better. 315 00:14:37,133 --> 00:14:38,773 Speaker 13: They need to look at. 316 00:14:38,653 --> 00:14:42,253 Speaker 7: Their own margins and chase and compete for customers much 317 00:14:42,253 --> 00:14:42,973 Speaker 7: more vigorously. 318 00:14:43,133 --> 00:14:44,613 Speaker 4: Those profit margins you talked about. 319 00:14:44,613 --> 00:14:46,172 Speaker 11: We saw a couple of results in the last week 320 00:14:46,253 --> 00:14:48,292 Speaker 11: or so and I always compare the Australian number two 321 00:14:48,333 --> 00:14:50,493 Speaker 11: the New Zealand number. The New Zealand numbers always hired. 322 00:14:50,533 --> 00:14:52,733 Speaker 11: Why hasn't that been addressed so we get a better deal? 323 00:14:52,893 --> 00:14:53,733 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean spot on. 324 00:14:53,853 --> 00:14:57,213 Speaker 3: The biggest challenge is income streams don't disrupt themselves, but 325 00:14:57,253 --> 00:14:58,373 Speaker 3: they need disrupting. 326 00:14:58,413 --> 00:15:01,133 Speaker 11: Back tomorrow at six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with 327 00:15:01,213 --> 00:15:03,412 Speaker 11: Baby's Real Estate News Talk ZB. 328 00:15:03,693 --> 00:15:06,053 Speaker 3: Good afternoon, twenty five past one, and we're talking about 329 00:15:06,133 --> 00:15:09,253 Speaker 3: key we Savor investments. Do you here where your key 330 00:15:09,293 --> 00:15:11,613 Speaker 3: we saver is invested. It's on the back of a 331 00:15:12,053 --> 00:15:15,693 Speaker 3: survey by Mindful Money that claims nine billion dollars of 332 00:15:15,693 --> 00:15:18,292 Speaker 3: New Zealand's money is invested in companies causing harm to people, 333 00:15:18,333 --> 00:15:20,973 Speaker 3: animals and the environment. You can ever look at your 334 00:15:21,013 --> 00:15:24,133 Speaker 3: own key we Save a fund on their website and 335 00:15:24,173 --> 00:15:26,293 Speaker 3: make your own determination. They list it all out and 336 00:15:26,293 --> 00:15:28,573 Speaker 3: they make their claims about why they feel a particular 337 00:15:28,613 --> 00:15:31,933 Speaker 3: company is breaking one of these ethical standards. 338 00:15:32,093 --> 00:15:35,893 Speaker 2: So you've got the charity Mindful Money right, and they're saying, 339 00:15:36,093 --> 00:15:37,973 Speaker 2: did you say social harm was one of their things? 340 00:15:37,973 --> 00:15:40,733 Speaker 2: That if you're investing in companies such as Meta in 341 00:15:41,373 --> 00:15:44,973 Speaker 2: social media, then that's part of their social social harm 342 00:15:45,293 --> 00:15:46,773 Speaker 2: and that's what part of the money they make up 343 00:15:46,853 --> 00:15:49,093 Speaker 2: nine billion in New Zealander's money is invested in companies 344 00:15:49,173 --> 00:15:49,973 Speaker 2: causing harm. 345 00:15:49,773 --> 00:15:50,933 Speaker 3: The flagged Meta platform. 346 00:15:51,013 --> 00:15:52,453 Speaker 4: Jim, Yeah, and yet here. 347 00:15:52,293 --> 00:15:54,093 Speaker 2: I am and I'm pretty sure this is them, right, 348 00:15:54,133 --> 00:15:57,853 Speaker 2: Mindful Money ever wondered what your key we saver gets? 349 00:15:57,933 --> 00:15:58,172 Speaker 4: This is? 350 00:15:58,533 --> 00:16:02,053 Speaker 2: This is on Facebook. Meet Blivia coal Mine. She'd like 351 00:16:02,093 --> 00:16:03,973 Speaker 2: to thank you for your key we saver money. 352 00:16:04,133 --> 00:16:06,973 Speaker 4: So they're on Meta, so they think this is a 353 00:16:07,013 --> 00:16:11,013 Speaker 4: social harm. They don't think they're being on Facebook is 354 00:16:11,053 --> 00:16:12,493 Speaker 4: not helping Facebook make money. 355 00:16:12,493 --> 00:16:14,653 Speaker 2: That's how Facebook makes its money. You're driving try and 356 00:16:14,853 --> 00:16:17,453 Speaker 2: drive engagement. You're not doing a great job. You've got 357 00:16:17,493 --> 00:16:21,653 Speaker 2: one hundred eight followers, but you're one point nine k followers, 358 00:16:21,653 --> 00:16:22,693 Speaker 2: one hundred and eight following. 359 00:16:22,893 --> 00:16:24,413 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know how we so. 360 00:16:24,613 --> 00:16:28,373 Speaker 3: But if you're serious about, you know, making ethical changes 361 00:16:28,413 --> 00:16:30,213 Speaker 3: in the world. Then you've got to stand by that 362 00:16:30,333 --> 00:16:33,333 Speaker 3: and live your life to that same degree. Right now, 363 00:16:33,373 --> 00:16:36,453 Speaker 3: if you are genuinely concerned about what Meta is doing 364 00:16:36,733 --> 00:16:39,293 Speaker 3: to the world, then you remove yourself from Facebook and 365 00:16:39,373 --> 00:16:42,133 Speaker 3: Instagram and refuse to do business for them. 366 00:16:42,053 --> 00:16:42,853 Speaker 4: Because you're the product. 367 00:16:42,893 --> 00:16:44,933 Speaker 2: And they'd probably argue, well, the good of what we 368 00:16:45,053 --> 00:16:47,532 Speaker 2: do leads to more people. 369 00:16:47,453 --> 00:16:49,733 Speaker 4: Following our cause, so there, it's worthwhile. 370 00:16:49,733 --> 00:16:52,973 Speaker 2: But that's that's you know, that just means it's okay 371 00:16:52,973 --> 00:16:55,693 Speaker 2: for us but not others, you know, so we're allowed 372 00:16:55,733 --> 00:17:00,493 Speaker 2: to be on Facebook whilst we're counting Facebook investing and 373 00:17:00,653 --> 00:17:04,133 Speaker 2: Meta as being an evil, but. 374 00:17:04,693 --> 00:17:07,332 Speaker 3: As a little bit better than nothing. That's what I'm 375 00:17:07,413 --> 00:17:10,813 Speaker 3: sure they'd claim, just as you said there that by 376 00:17:11,493 --> 00:17:14,933 Speaker 3: using Meta, even though they've said that it is a 377 00:17:14,973 --> 00:17:19,333 Speaker 3: public safety company, a risk to public safety and unethical, 378 00:17:19,853 --> 00:17:21,773 Speaker 3: that they were saying by using that and trying to 379 00:17:21,813 --> 00:17:24,253 Speaker 3: get the information out there as much as possible, that 380 00:17:24,293 --> 00:17:25,613 Speaker 3: they are doing some good. 381 00:17:25,813 --> 00:17:28,333 Speaker 2: And yeah, they're anti fossil fuels, but it's important for 382 00:17:28,373 --> 00:17:33,093 Speaker 2: them to drive their vehicles into work. And look, they're 383 00:17:33,093 --> 00:17:36,533 Speaker 2: anti whatever, but potentially they meet if you know what 384 00:17:36,573 --> 00:17:36,812 Speaker 2: I mean. 385 00:17:36,933 --> 00:17:40,053 Speaker 3: Oh, the flagged contact energy as well, I like contact energy. 386 00:17:40,133 --> 00:17:42,693 Speaker 3: I wan one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number 387 00:17:42,733 --> 00:17:45,653 Speaker 3: to call quack text. Then we've got the headlines coming up. Guys, 388 00:17:46,853 --> 00:17:49,853 Speaker 3: I dumped AMP as my key we Saver investor because 389 00:17:50,253 --> 00:17:52,893 Speaker 3: they don't invest in fossil fuels. I work for an 390 00:17:52,933 --> 00:17:55,453 Speaker 3: oil company that key we save. A company I moved 391 00:17:55,533 --> 00:17:57,532 Speaker 3: to were reluctant to give me the details on who 392 00:17:57,573 --> 00:18:00,493 Speaker 3: they were invested with when I found it, they found 393 00:18:00,493 --> 00:18:03,133 Speaker 3: out rather they were invested in fossil fuels. I went 394 00:18:03,133 --> 00:18:03,773 Speaker 3: with them instead. 395 00:18:03,773 --> 00:18:06,333 Speaker 2: From Paul, okay, here you go. So he's the exact 396 00:18:06,333 --> 00:18:07,773 Speaker 2: opposite of mindful money. 397 00:18:08,333 --> 00:18:10,493 Speaker 3: Twenty eight bars one headlines coming up. 398 00:18:13,613 --> 00:18:17,013 Speaker 8: US talks at the headlines with blue bubble taxis it's 399 00:18:17,133 --> 00:18:20,532 Speaker 8: no trouble with a blue bubble. 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You 415 00:19:20,973 --> 00:19:24,093 Speaker 8: can see Audrey Young's full column at NZ Herald Premium. 416 00:19:24,253 --> 00:19:26,093 Speaker 8: Now back to matt Ethan Tyler Adams. 417 00:19:26,133 --> 00:19:28,613 Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Rayleen, and we're talking about ethical 418 00:19:28,693 --> 00:19:31,173 Speaker 3: investments in New Zealand on the back of research by 419 00:19:31,373 --> 00:19:34,933 Speaker 3: an outfit called Mindful Money, who claim that nine billion 420 00:19:34,973 --> 00:19:37,653 Speaker 3: dollars of our money New Zealander is money is investing 421 00:19:37,653 --> 00:19:40,253 Speaker 3: in companies who are somewhat unethical. 422 00:19:41,773 --> 00:19:44,573 Speaker 4: Unethical according to them, Yeah, yeah, but do you care? 423 00:19:44,693 --> 00:19:49,253 Speaker 2: Is it your job to think about ethical investments or 424 00:19:49,333 --> 00:19:50,933 Speaker 2: is your job just to save for your retirement so 425 00:19:50,933 --> 00:19:52,853 Speaker 2: you can look after yourself and don't become a burden 426 00:19:52,973 --> 00:19:54,173 Speaker 2: on society. 427 00:19:53,773 --> 00:19:54,293 Speaker 4: Or your family. 428 00:19:54,733 --> 00:19:56,532 Speaker 2: I mean, it's pretty harsh, isn't it, when you've got 429 00:19:56,573 --> 00:19:57,693 Speaker 2: to both save for your retirement. 430 00:19:58,333 --> 00:20:00,773 Speaker 4: And I actually hear from people on eight hundred and 431 00:20:00,893 --> 00:20:01,973 Speaker 4: eighty ten eighty. 432 00:20:02,013 --> 00:20:04,053 Speaker 2: If you are coming up to retirement, you're five years 433 00:20:04,093 --> 00:20:06,493 Speaker 2: away or one year away or whatever, whether you think 434 00:20:06,493 --> 00:20:08,653 Speaker 2: you've got enough, How much money do you think you need? 435 00:20:08,893 --> 00:20:10,253 Speaker 2: I mean, I saw I was reading something in the 436 00:20:10,253 --> 00:20:11,693 Speaker 2: paper the other day where they were saying, you need 437 00:20:11,693 --> 00:20:13,533 Speaker 2: a million dollars? Yeah, how many people are gonna have 438 00:20:13,573 --> 00:20:14,653 Speaker 2: a million dollars when they retire. 439 00:20:14,693 --> 00:20:17,213 Speaker 3: It's terrifying those stories, and they keep changing it. At 440 00:20:17,253 --> 00:20:19,013 Speaker 3: one stage it was two million, You're gonna need two 441 00:20:19,013 --> 00:20:21,733 Speaker 3: million dollars for retirement, then a million then. I mean, 442 00:20:21,893 --> 00:20:23,413 Speaker 3: so I read that and I get scared. 443 00:20:23,413 --> 00:20:25,573 Speaker 2: So if you're worried about eating cat food when you retire, 444 00:20:25,973 --> 00:20:29,413 Speaker 2: then are you also going to worry about the ethical 445 00:20:29,493 --> 00:20:32,373 Speaker 2: nature of you? It feels a little bit like a luxury, 446 00:20:33,213 --> 00:20:35,333 Speaker 2: a sort of a larxury attitude. 447 00:20:35,453 --> 00:20:37,893 Speaker 3: Yeah, how much do you think you'd actually, I mean, 448 00:20:37,933 --> 00:20:40,773 Speaker 3: it's a hard one to determine how much you're going 449 00:20:40,813 --> 00:20:43,733 Speaker 3: to need for retirement, but yeah, again, when you read 450 00:20:43,733 --> 00:20:46,053 Speaker 3: those stories and say you're gonna need a million bucks, 451 00:20:47,053 --> 00:20:48,733 Speaker 3: I just don't know if that's true. Love to hear 452 00:20:48,733 --> 00:20:50,773 Speaker 3: from you, though, on one hundred and eighty ten eighty. 453 00:20:51,493 --> 00:20:56,093 Speaker 2: Now, Dean, you're from the Responsible Investment Association of Australasia, 454 00:20:56,253 --> 00:20:58,293 Speaker 2: so I'm sure you might have an opinion on. 455 00:20:58,253 --> 00:21:01,733 Speaker 14: This thank Cure of Boys. Yeah, no, I certainly do. 456 00:21:03,053 --> 00:21:07,293 Speaker 3: So let's talk about the survey by Mindful Money. And 457 00:21:07,413 --> 00:21:09,653 Speaker 3: as I mentioned earlier, our Dean, I looked at my 458 00:21:09,733 --> 00:21:11,933 Speaker 3: own can We Save a fund and looked at what 459 00:21:11,973 --> 00:21:15,773 Speaker 3: they determined to be unethical and the line was pretty Bluarry, 460 00:21:15,853 --> 00:21:17,213 Speaker 3: I've got to say with some of those things. 461 00:21:18,733 --> 00:21:21,173 Speaker 14: Yeah, Like, I think the important thing to remember is 462 00:21:21,213 --> 00:21:25,493 Speaker 14: that ess and people's values are very personal, and so 463 00:21:25,973 --> 00:21:28,413 Speaker 14: I think where you do really have to be careful 464 00:21:28,533 --> 00:21:31,893 Speaker 14: is understanding the fact that as an individual, what you 465 00:21:32,093 --> 00:21:33,813 Speaker 14: value and what is important to you is going to 466 00:21:33,813 --> 00:21:36,613 Speaker 14: be really different to somebody else. So you know what 467 00:21:36,733 --> 00:21:39,133 Speaker 14: you consider to be important, whether it's animals, whether it's 468 00:21:39,133 --> 00:21:42,653 Speaker 14: a environment, whether it's social outcomes and making sure that 469 00:21:43,213 --> 00:21:45,653 Speaker 14: people who can't afford it have got access to healthing 470 00:21:46,013 --> 00:21:49,773 Speaker 14: to housing and healthcare, those are important to you as 471 00:21:49,813 --> 00:21:55,453 Speaker 14: an individual rather than things that I think we can 472 00:21:55,813 --> 00:21:58,373 Speaker 14: sort of make claims or assumptions about on behalf of 473 00:21:58,373 --> 00:21:58,853 Speaker 14: other people. 474 00:21:59,453 --> 00:22:01,173 Speaker 2: And do you flip that on the other way as 475 00:22:01,213 --> 00:22:03,533 Speaker 2: the service provisers as well, should they make it clear 476 00:22:03,573 --> 00:22:04,933 Speaker 2: if they've made ethical decisions. 477 00:22:04,933 --> 00:22:05,933 Speaker 4: We've had a few texts. 478 00:22:05,693 --> 00:22:10,373 Speaker 2: From people that found out that they're they're suppliers were 479 00:22:10,213 --> 00:22:14,613 Speaker 2: the key receiver scheme was not investing in fossil fuels 480 00:22:14,613 --> 00:22:16,373 Speaker 2: and that wasn't something that they knew about. 481 00:22:16,493 --> 00:22:20,373 Speaker 4: So equally the other way, do you think it's important. 482 00:22:20,173 --> 00:22:23,813 Speaker 14: Definitely, yeah, And I think you need to and a 483 00:22:23,853 --> 00:22:28,653 Speaker 14: full declaration on the COSA of the Responsible Investment Association. 484 00:22:28,893 --> 00:22:30,693 Speaker 14: So we do work with a lot of the q 485 00:22:30,893 --> 00:22:33,933 Speaker 14: savit providers and banks and fund managers in New Zealand, 486 00:22:33,933 --> 00:22:37,213 Speaker 14: and I think what we'd always say is absolutely essential 487 00:22:37,333 --> 00:22:39,453 Speaker 14: that if somebody is giving you their money to invest 488 00:22:39,493 --> 00:22:42,453 Speaker 14: in their retirement, that you're being really clear with them 489 00:22:42,493 --> 00:22:45,853 Speaker 14: about what it is you are and aren't doing when 490 00:22:45,853 --> 00:22:49,733 Speaker 14: it comes to putting those investments. But the other thing 491 00:22:49,813 --> 00:22:53,573 Speaker 14: I'd be really clear about is that I think while 492 00:22:53,613 --> 00:22:55,453 Speaker 14: I totally understand some of the comments that have been 493 00:22:55,493 --> 00:22:59,933 Speaker 14: made around being a luxury. There's really no evidence that 494 00:23:00,013 --> 00:23:03,413 Speaker 14: supports the idea that you have to choose between investing 495 00:23:03,453 --> 00:23:06,093 Speaker 14: in a way that aligns to your values and making 496 00:23:06,213 --> 00:23:09,373 Speaker 14: lots of money for your retirement. There are loads of 497 00:23:09,413 --> 00:23:12,533 Speaker 14: good funds available in New Zealand right across the world 498 00:23:12,613 --> 00:23:17,532 Speaker 14: that are investing in ways that are investing in energy transitions, 499 00:23:17,573 --> 00:23:22,653 Speaker 14: investing in social housing funds also providing fantastic returns that 500 00:23:22,693 --> 00:23:24,853 Speaker 14: are helping people retire at the same time. So I 501 00:23:24,853 --> 00:23:26,613 Speaker 14: think it's really important to keep that in mind when 502 00:23:26,613 --> 00:23:28,293 Speaker 14: you're talking about responsible investment as well. 503 00:23:28,773 --> 00:23:33,093 Speaker 2: Yeah, so how much can people, you know, purpose build 504 00:23:33,133 --> 00:23:36,133 Speaker 2: there there in their key we saver investment Because as 505 00:23:36,133 --> 00:23:41,253 Speaker 2: you say, people have different ethical beliefs, So some person 506 00:23:41,573 --> 00:23:45,173 Speaker 2: might be really focused on animal cruelty but not really 507 00:23:45,213 --> 00:23:48,813 Speaker 2: care about money being invested in social media, which is 508 00:23:48,853 --> 00:23:51,533 Speaker 2: listed as social harm by these people. Can you can 509 00:23:51,573 --> 00:23:54,173 Speaker 2: you control it that much? Because I didn't actually know, 510 00:23:54,253 --> 00:23:56,813 Speaker 2: because I've just pressed, I've just got my key saver 511 00:23:56,973 --> 00:24:01,213 Speaker 2: from my bank and I just packed what growth what 512 00:24:01,253 --> 00:24:04,173 Speaker 2: growth setting I wanted? But can you can you can 513 00:24:04,213 --> 00:24:07,173 Speaker 2: you can you put it together right down to that 514 00:24:07,253 --> 00:24:08,213 Speaker 2: kind of detail? 515 00:24:09,613 --> 00:24:12,053 Speaker 14: You can't go that granulate in New Zealand with the 516 00:24:12,133 --> 00:24:17,613 Speaker 14: kiwisaver settings. If there are specific if there are specific 517 00:24:17,613 --> 00:24:21,373 Speaker 14: things that are important to you, you can choices that 518 00:24:21,413 --> 00:24:25,253 Speaker 14: will be much more strongly aligned to in particular things 519 00:24:25,373 --> 00:24:30,933 Speaker 14: like environment, friends, like animal cruelty. New Zealanders, there's quite 520 00:24:30,933 --> 00:24:34,453 Speaker 14: a big discrepancy between I think the number of people 521 00:24:34,453 --> 00:24:37,733 Speaker 14: who think that cruelty is really important and the number 522 00:24:37,733 --> 00:24:41,133 Speaker 14: of fund managers who are providing specific products that sort 523 00:24:41,133 --> 00:24:43,613 Speaker 14: of tailor make that. But what I would say is 524 00:24:44,293 --> 00:24:47,053 Speaker 14: if you if you do have a key Saber fund, 525 00:24:47,093 --> 00:24:49,533 Speaker 14: then you're interested in like, you know, one what they're 526 00:24:49,573 --> 00:24:52,453 Speaker 14: investing in, but two maybe getting it, getting your money 527 00:24:52,493 --> 00:24:56,893 Speaker 14: specifically moving towards one area or another. You can either 528 00:24:56,933 --> 00:25:00,133 Speaker 14: look for a product that's already doing it, or you know, 529 00:25:00,773 --> 00:25:03,053 Speaker 14: give your keys, have a provider, send them an email. 530 00:25:03,293 --> 00:25:03,573 Speaker 13: Right there. 531 00:25:04,533 --> 00:25:08,173 Speaker 14: There are customer driven organization that makes money out of 532 00:25:08,173 --> 00:25:10,893 Speaker 14: you a customer for them, and so like any business 533 00:25:10,893 --> 00:25:13,613 Speaker 14: that has customers, they respond to customer feedback. And if 534 00:25:13,653 --> 00:25:16,253 Speaker 14: you call them and start asking why they're investing in 535 00:25:16,293 --> 00:25:20,693 Speaker 14: certain aspects, that's how you actually bring about the change 536 00:25:20,813 --> 00:25:21,933 Speaker 14: that you want to see. 537 00:25:22,053 --> 00:25:23,853 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure there's a good reason for this team 538 00:25:23,893 --> 00:25:26,773 Speaker 3: but why can't we determine where a key we save 539 00:25:26,813 --> 00:25:30,572 Speaker 3: the money is going down to the grainy ends as 540 00:25:30,693 --> 00:25:34,373 Speaker 3: and we get to dictate which investments we're picking up 541 00:25:34,493 --> 00:25:36,453 Speaker 3: rather than just an investment manager. 542 00:25:38,733 --> 00:25:42,213 Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean it's a complex, you know, scenario, like 543 00:25:43,053 --> 00:25:47,413 Speaker 14: when you're dealing with a global investment scheme, because about 544 00:25:47,413 --> 00:25:49,813 Speaker 14: one hundred and ten billion dollars sitting in care we 545 00:25:49,853 --> 00:25:54,133 Speaker 14: say it globally like there are I think probably the 546 00:25:54,213 --> 00:25:56,812 Speaker 14: important thing to realize is that to have the amount 547 00:25:56,813 --> 00:25:58,373 Speaker 14: of knowledge for you to be able to do that 548 00:25:58,453 --> 00:26:01,173 Speaker 14: in a way that is going to continue to allow 549 00:26:01,213 --> 00:26:04,453 Speaker 14: you to invest really intelligently, to do it really well. 550 00:26:04,493 --> 00:26:07,493 Speaker 14: Like these guys, they're experts in what they do. Like 551 00:26:08,333 --> 00:26:11,333 Speaker 14: everybody could simply sit at home and invest their money 552 00:26:12,173 --> 00:26:15,733 Speaker 14: in a way that was really that was clever and 553 00:26:15,773 --> 00:26:18,292 Speaker 14: made you lots of money. And if it was simple, 554 00:26:18,373 --> 00:26:21,013 Speaker 14: then we wouldn't need banks and we wouldn't need serfer 555 00:26:21,013 --> 00:26:24,413 Speaker 14: funds or kisaber providers or asset manages. It it's what 556 00:26:24,453 --> 00:26:26,213 Speaker 14: they do for a living, you know, so they're really 557 00:26:26,253 --> 00:26:29,653 Speaker 14: good at it. I think in an ideal world, and 558 00:26:30,053 --> 00:26:32,253 Speaker 14: what New Zalands has done a really good job of 559 00:26:32,413 --> 00:26:35,933 Speaker 14: is putting some baselines in place, things like nuclear exposures 560 00:26:35,973 --> 00:26:40,292 Speaker 14: and you know, controversial or ballistic weapons, things that you know, 561 00:26:40,613 --> 00:26:42,453 Speaker 14: no New Zealander is going to want to see in 562 00:26:42,493 --> 00:26:45,613 Speaker 14: their investments. But I think there's always for us to 563 00:26:45,613 --> 00:26:49,013 Speaker 14: continue improving that, and the more sort of kiwis put 564 00:26:49,053 --> 00:26:51,253 Speaker 14: more pressure on their kivy cyber providers to do that, 565 00:26:51,853 --> 00:26:54,493 Speaker 14: I think that's really helpful. But it's also really important 566 00:26:54,493 --> 00:26:59,373 Speaker 14: to highlight that even in a fossil fuel instance, for example, 567 00:26:59,653 --> 00:27:01,373 Speaker 14: you can't just look at what is sitting in a 568 00:27:01,453 --> 00:27:03,813 Speaker 14: holding and decide whether it's good or bad like, so 569 00:27:04,373 --> 00:27:06,853 Speaker 14: you can be invested in a fossil fuel company quote 570 00:27:06,933 --> 00:27:10,733 Speaker 14: unquote that is also a leading provider of renewable energy 571 00:27:10,853 --> 00:27:14,733 Speaker 14: because in a lot of instances, companies that are producing 572 00:27:14,893 --> 00:27:17,693 Speaker 14: coal fired power planes are also producing wind turbines and 573 00:27:17,733 --> 00:27:19,413 Speaker 14: solar panels. And so. 574 00:27:21,413 --> 00:27:24,253 Speaker 2: The question is what would be a non fossil fuel company. 575 00:27:24,773 --> 00:27:29,013 Speaker 2: Every company uses fossil fuels, everyone drives to work, everyone, 576 00:27:29,133 --> 00:27:31,693 Speaker 2: So that's kind of a hard thing to define. Would 577 00:27:31,693 --> 00:27:35,093 Speaker 2: you say, as as a company, say, if you're listing, 578 00:27:35,413 --> 00:27:37,333 Speaker 2: this is just an example, So if you're saying that 579 00:27:37,333 --> 00:27:39,773 Speaker 2: there's nine billion, you're not saying. 580 00:27:39,613 --> 00:27:41,693 Speaker 14: This, but that's what I'm saying. 581 00:27:41,693 --> 00:27:43,133 Speaker 4: No, But if someone is saying. 582 00:27:42,893 --> 00:27:46,933 Speaker 2: That that that that meta causes social harm and you're 583 00:27:46,973 --> 00:27:50,813 Speaker 2: listening that as an unethical, unethical investment, do you think 584 00:27:51,093 --> 00:27:54,453 Speaker 2: in this in this industry, that you as a company 585 00:27:54,533 --> 00:27:57,453 Speaker 2: should stay off those platforms. I'm not saying that you 586 00:27:57,493 --> 00:28:01,053 Speaker 2: at Responsible Investment Association, but just to see the problems 587 00:28:01,133 --> 00:28:03,293 Speaker 2: are you do you have to be as holy as 588 00:28:03,333 --> 00:28:05,293 Speaker 2: you are as you're saying other people need to be 589 00:28:05,373 --> 00:28:06,133 Speaker 2: in their investments. 590 00:28:07,173 --> 00:28:07,413 Speaker 15: Yeah. 591 00:28:07,893 --> 00:28:10,213 Speaker 14: I think it comes down again to you and your values. 592 00:28:10,253 --> 00:28:12,573 Speaker 14: And I think, like what I'd say is, I guess look, 593 00:28:12,573 --> 00:28:14,733 Speaker 14: I go to the supermarket, I take my own bags. 594 00:28:15,813 --> 00:28:18,893 Speaker 14: If I try wherever I cannot to buy things that 595 00:28:18,933 --> 00:28:20,933 Speaker 14: are wrapped in plastic, I fucking buy them and put 596 00:28:20,973 --> 00:28:23,453 Speaker 14: them into a bag. That doesn't mean that when I 597 00:28:23,493 --> 00:28:25,333 Speaker 14: walk out of the supermarket, I don't have any Plaska 598 00:28:25,373 --> 00:28:26,053 Speaker 14: on my groceries. 599 00:28:26,133 --> 00:28:26,613 Speaker 10: You know what I mean? 600 00:28:26,613 --> 00:28:28,453 Speaker 14: Because some of the things that I love to eat 601 00:28:28,453 --> 00:28:30,973 Speaker 14: a wrapped in plastic, and that's what I do. That 602 00:28:31,013 --> 00:28:33,813 Speaker 14: doesn't mean that me not know, not taking it that 603 00:28:33,933 --> 00:28:38,253 Speaker 14: extra plastic doesn't help. So I think it's all i'd 604 00:28:38,293 --> 00:28:40,933 Speaker 14: say is like you know it's not enough to just 605 00:28:41,013 --> 00:28:44,253 Speaker 14: go Actually, you know, I can't make all the difference 606 00:28:44,293 --> 00:28:45,813 Speaker 14: in the world. Therefore I won't even try. 607 00:28:46,413 --> 00:28:48,733 Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds to me, Dean, and I could be wrong. 608 00:28:48,773 --> 00:28:50,653 Speaker 2: You correct me if I'm wrong, But you're coming from 609 00:28:50,653 --> 00:28:53,773 Speaker 2: the idea of a non judgmental approach to this. You're 610 00:28:53,893 --> 00:28:56,853 Speaker 2: really saying people need to know what they're investing in 611 00:28:57,013 --> 00:29:00,093 Speaker 2: and know that they've got options as opposed to judging. 612 00:29:00,373 --> 00:29:03,653 Speaker 14: Actually, right, Yeah, and there's totally you know, there's totally 613 00:29:03,733 --> 00:29:06,493 Speaker 14: lots of people who know and like Tesla is a 614 00:29:06,493 --> 00:29:10,373 Speaker 14: great example of a company that has made a huge 615 00:29:10,493 --> 00:29:14,573 Speaker 14: amount of environmental impact. Positively, I should say sorry, in 616 00:29:14,693 --> 00:29:16,813 Speaker 14: terms of what they've done with evs. Right, they have 617 00:29:17,573 --> 00:29:19,893 Speaker 14: terrible government structures and there's a whole lot of reasons 618 00:29:19,893 --> 00:29:22,533 Speaker 14: why they don't do the right thing by their staff 619 00:29:22,573 --> 00:29:25,293 Speaker 14: or And now, if you're an individual for sitting there 620 00:29:25,333 --> 00:29:28,733 Speaker 14: and the climate and the climate, you know, climate change 621 00:29:28,733 --> 00:29:32,013 Speaker 14: is the biggest factor for you, and you know you're 622 00:29:32,013 --> 00:29:34,173 Speaker 14: sitting at home and it gives you anxiety. You actually 623 00:29:34,173 --> 00:29:38,053 Speaker 14: don't care about the labor rights. Not sorry, I shouldn't 624 00:29:38,053 --> 00:29:40,133 Speaker 14: say you don't care, but it's not as important to you, 625 00:29:40,173 --> 00:29:41,893 Speaker 14: so you want to be invested in a company that 626 00:29:42,413 --> 00:29:46,253 Speaker 14: is driving change from an environmental standpoint. But everybody's got 627 00:29:46,253 --> 00:29:48,813 Speaker 14: their own values and it's important that there are investment 628 00:29:48,853 --> 00:29:52,253 Speaker 14: opportunities that are available for everybody, no matter what their 629 00:29:52,333 --> 00:29:54,813 Speaker 14: values are, and also no matter what they're trying to 630 00:29:54,813 --> 00:29:56,733 Speaker 14: achieve with their investments from a financial outcome. 631 00:29:57,333 --> 00:30:00,533 Speaker 3: Genuinely, Dean a quick question here, but what funds that 632 00:30:00,573 --> 00:30:03,373 Speaker 3: would be considered more ethical or they don't invest in 633 00:30:04,093 --> 00:30:07,973 Speaker 3: companies that are unethical? Do you think their returns are 634 00:30:08,093 --> 00:30:10,333 Speaker 3: just as good as other funds. 635 00:30:11,853 --> 00:30:14,813 Speaker 14: I'd steer away from using the words the call because, 636 00:30:14,853 --> 00:30:18,653 Speaker 14: as I say, that's very like it's a very hard 637 00:30:18,653 --> 00:30:20,973 Speaker 14: to define terms. What I can tell you for a 638 00:30:21,013 --> 00:30:23,933 Speaker 14: fact is that we look at what we would call 639 00:30:24,053 --> 00:30:28,773 Speaker 14: responsibly invested funds that in New Zealand and Australia are 640 00:30:28,773 --> 00:30:31,373 Speaker 14: invested with what we would consider to be leading in practice, 641 00:30:31,413 --> 00:30:35,653 Speaker 14: which means they're invoting those really significant harms. They're not 642 00:30:35,693 --> 00:30:39,453 Speaker 14: investing in things like nuclear weapons, ballistics, missiles, things like that. 643 00:30:40,173 --> 00:30:43,213 Speaker 14: They're also being really transparent with the way that they 644 00:30:43,253 --> 00:30:45,773 Speaker 14: do invest and so saying you know, we're invested in 645 00:30:45,813 --> 00:30:48,453 Speaker 14: these companies telling their customers about what they're invested in 646 00:30:48,973 --> 00:30:53,533 Speaker 14: and why they're invested in them those funds, and so 647 00:30:53,693 --> 00:30:57,133 Speaker 14: we go through and certify that three hundred and fifty 648 00:30:57,133 --> 00:31:00,773 Speaker 14: funds across Australasia about more than half of the key 649 00:31:00,813 --> 00:31:06,613 Speaker 14: we favor market. And those funds that do that perform 650 00:31:06,653 --> 00:31:09,773 Speaker 14: at least as well not better than some of the 651 00:31:09,813 --> 00:31:13,773 Speaker 14: average markets. And that's aligned, that aligns to all of 652 00:31:13,813 --> 00:31:14,973 Speaker 14: the evident squably as well. 653 00:31:15,253 --> 00:31:16,653 Speaker 4: All right, thank you so much for you call. 654 00:31:16,733 --> 00:31:20,613 Speaker 2: Dean is the COSEO of Responsible Investment Association Australasia. 655 00:31:20,693 --> 00:31:21,573 Speaker 4: Really appreciate your call. 656 00:31:21,693 --> 00:31:23,853 Speaker 3: Yeah, great call I one hundred and eighty ten eighty 657 00:31:23,933 --> 00:31:27,253 Speaker 3: is the number to call. It is sixteen to two. 658 00:31:28,573 --> 00:31:30,973 Speaker 5: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun 659 00:31:31,053 --> 00:31:31,653 Speaker 5: along the way. 660 00:31:31,893 --> 00:31:35,813 Speaker 1: Matt and Taylor afternoons with the Volvo xc N eighty Innovation, 661 00:31:36,013 --> 00:31:37,813 Speaker 1: Style and Design, have it all. 662 00:31:37,933 --> 00:31:40,893 Speaker 3: Youth talk said, be there's fourteen to two. 663 00:31:41,333 --> 00:31:46,013 Speaker 2: We're talking about ethical key WE Saver funds. Mindful Money 664 00:31:46,293 --> 00:31:48,173 Speaker 2: has said that nine billion of New Zealander's money is 665 00:31:48,173 --> 00:31:50,933 Speaker 2: invested in companies causing harm to people, animals and environment 666 00:31:51,093 --> 00:31:55,133 Speaker 2: and they're an ethical investment charity. But when you look 667 00:31:55,173 --> 00:31:57,573 Speaker 2: through I mean, do you agree with what they decide 668 00:31:57,613 --> 00:32:00,373 Speaker 2: is ethical or not. All feels a little bit judgmental 669 00:32:00,373 --> 00:32:03,133 Speaker 2: to me. This text here from Aaron, Nah, I want 670 00:32:03,133 --> 00:32:05,613 Speaker 2: money for my wife and one retirement in thirty years time. 671 00:32:05,653 --> 00:32:07,173 Speaker 2: I'm not going to listen to a lecture from a 672 00:32:07,253 --> 00:32:10,333 Speaker 2: chicken little crying about the sky falling. And we've invested 673 00:32:10,333 --> 00:32:12,653 Speaker 2: heavily in oil, for instance, and have done really well 674 00:32:12,653 --> 00:32:16,213 Speaker 2: out of it since twenty twenty one. If we haven't, 675 00:32:16,453 --> 00:32:19,253 Speaker 2: may have made that investment. It would make zero difference 676 00:32:19,253 --> 00:32:22,253 Speaker 2: to the planet. That's from Aaron as I said. Yeah, 677 00:32:22,453 --> 00:32:25,213 Speaker 2: I remember with those barrels of oil, had to give 678 00:32:25,253 --> 00:32:27,013 Speaker 2: them away, They had to pay people to take the oil. 679 00:32:27,213 --> 00:32:29,693 Speaker 2: I mean a thing in that time if you pumped 680 00:32:29,693 --> 00:32:31,293 Speaker 2: a lot of money, because there's no way fossil fuels 681 00:32:31,293 --> 00:32:32,933 Speaker 2: weren't going to go back. But if you were looking 682 00:32:32,973 --> 00:32:35,093 Speaker 2: to make some money investing in oil around twenty twenty 683 00:32:35,093 --> 00:32:37,133 Speaker 2: one was a fossil fields was a good way to go. 684 00:32:37,293 --> 00:32:41,173 Speaker 3: You missed a trick there. Yeah, this Texas says, guys 685 00:32:41,173 --> 00:32:43,773 Speaker 3: to use a cricket analogy. I care how much, not 686 00:32:43,973 --> 00:32:46,733 Speaker 3: how the scorebook doesn't have pictures, Nor do I care 687 00:32:46,773 --> 00:32:50,373 Speaker 3: how my key saver balance increases. I get the argument 688 00:32:50,413 --> 00:32:53,933 Speaker 3: that it is a rather privileged position to say I'm 689 00:32:53,973 --> 00:32:57,253 Speaker 3: not going to invest in contact energy or meta platforms 690 00:32:57,293 --> 00:32:59,453 Speaker 3: because I don't agree with them, and if I lose money, 691 00:32:59,493 --> 00:33:02,053 Speaker 3: so be it. There's very few people who would be 692 00:33:02,133 --> 00:33:05,493 Speaker 3: in that position. But if you believe in that stuff enough, 693 00:33:05,533 --> 00:33:08,013 Speaker 3: and you're not on Facebook because you hate meta platforms 694 00:33:08,013 --> 00:33:10,173 Speaker 3: and you don't when I'm investment well mindful. 695 00:33:09,853 --> 00:33:12,413 Speaker 4: Money are on Facebook they listed as a social hard. 696 00:33:12,333 --> 00:33:15,613 Speaker 3: They certainly are, and your fund is making money, then 697 00:33:16,093 --> 00:33:18,533 Speaker 3: fair play to you. But that is the difference, right 698 00:33:18,613 --> 00:33:23,093 Speaker 3: If you were just making these ethical, responsible decisions and 699 00:33:23,133 --> 00:33:25,533 Speaker 3: you're losing money, That's not a position many people can 700 00:33:25,533 --> 00:33:25,733 Speaker 3: be in. 701 00:33:25,813 --> 00:33:28,413 Speaker 2: Well, When I bought shares for my kids a while back, 702 00:33:28,853 --> 00:33:30,773 Speaker 2: quite a few years ago, and I let them up 703 00:33:30,853 --> 00:33:32,253 Speaker 2: to growth for a bit, and then I got them 704 00:33:32,253 --> 00:33:34,453 Speaker 2: to decide their funds, and one of my sons, who 705 00:33:34,653 --> 00:33:38,533 Speaker 2: quite cares about the environment stuff, he invested heavily in 706 00:33:39,253 --> 00:33:42,413 Speaker 2: a global water fund and a few other things that 707 00:33:42,453 --> 00:33:45,693 Speaker 2: he thought looked felt nice, and I was like, he's 708 00:33:45,733 --> 00:33:48,413 Speaker 2: actually done really well, dad, good honor disappointing. He set 709 00:33:48,493 --> 00:33:51,973 Speaker 2: himself up for the future quite nicely, Well done that man, David. 710 00:33:52,653 --> 00:33:55,053 Speaker 2: Your thoughts on investments. 711 00:33:56,053 --> 00:34:00,253 Speaker 16: Yeah, Look, the way I look at it is, on 712 00:34:00,533 --> 00:34:04,013 Speaker 16: average you're going to make about seven percent every year 713 00:34:04,453 --> 00:34:08,692 Speaker 16: with your investments. So your fees are the absolute number 714 00:34:08,733 --> 00:34:12,172 Speaker 16: one most important thing. So even if you have to 715 00:34:12,213 --> 00:34:14,933 Speaker 16: pay one or two percent more, that is going to 716 00:34:14,973 --> 00:34:17,413 Speaker 16: make a huge sense on the amount of money that 717 00:34:17,493 --> 00:34:21,333 Speaker 16: you're left with at the end of twenty five years. 718 00:34:21,373 --> 00:34:23,773 Speaker 16: That one thing is to really worry about the fees. 719 00:34:23,853 --> 00:34:28,413 Speaker 16: There's and foremost. So if you say I'm going to 720 00:34:28,453 --> 00:34:31,893 Speaker 16: do this ethical fund, you're probably going to have to 721 00:34:31,933 --> 00:34:36,772 Speaker 16: pay more fees for it. Plus I also know I've 722 00:34:36,813 --> 00:34:40,693 Speaker 16: heard this before. I was with a medical assurance society 723 00:34:41,413 --> 00:34:44,413 Speaker 16: for a while and they said, oh, you don't actually 724 00:34:44,493 --> 00:34:48,133 Speaker 16: lose any money if you invest effectally, And I just 725 00:34:48,173 --> 00:34:51,333 Speaker 16: find it hard to believe this. Why would someone why 726 00:34:51,333 --> 00:34:54,732 Speaker 16: would they even set up companies to do uninstill things 727 00:34:54,773 --> 00:34:57,253 Speaker 16: if it wasn't profitable. I think people. 728 00:34:59,333 --> 00:35:00,213 Speaker 4: It's a good point. 729 00:35:00,333 --> 00:35:03,853 Speaker 2: And anytime you restrict yourself away from whatever happens to 730 00:35:03,893 --> 00:35:07,133 Speaker 2: be the highest earning sector at any given point, then 731 00:35:07,253 --> 00:35:10,613 Speaker 2: just by definition, then you are going to have some 732 00:35:10,693 --> 00:35:14,613 Speaker 2: percentage less ability to move into areas if they happen 733 00:35:14,693 --> 00:35:18,533 Speaker 2: to un ethical practices, happen to be the biggest serious if. 734 00:35:18,453 --> 00:35:19,093 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 735 00:35:19,133 --> 00:35:24,573 Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So the other thing too, I mean, well, 736 00:35:24,573 --> 00:35:26,933 Speaker 16: I just I'm a real strong believer in passive in 737 00:35:27,013 --> 00:35:31,933 Speaker 16: the investments. I just put you can put your round here, 738 00:35:31,973 --> 00:35:35,172 Speaker 16: we say then, and I don't prove super life. We've 739 00:35:35,173 --> 00:35:37,973 Speaker 16: put it all on the SP five hundred. It's just 740 00:35:38,133 --> 00:35:43,013 Speaker 16: up the that models that and the UH returns have 741 00:35:43,053 --> 00:35:50,652 Speaker 16: been absolutely phenomenal. And and I think another thing that 742 00:35:50,693 --> 00:35:53,693 Speaker 16: you get as well, because I think New Zealand's economy 743 00:35:53,733 --> 00:35:56,413 Speaker 16: is going to go down the toilet because we're so 744 00:35:56,773 --> 00:36:01,253 Speaker 16: interested in investing in properties that we want money to 745 00:36:01,293 --> 00:36:03,373 Speaker 16: be kind of cheap, you know what I mean, leaning 746 00:36:03,453 --> 00:36:06,013 Speaker 16: out loans, E set pressure to keep the o c 747 00:36:06,213 --> 00:36:09,053 Speaker 16: R low, and I think that's just going to put 748 00:36:09,413 --> 00:36:13,453 Speaker 16: us in the possession where that when you're investments, you're 749 00:36:13,453 --> 00:36:16,613 Speaker 16: not gonna make much money. So I think the keep 750 00:36:16,693 --> 00:36:18,893 Speaker 16: going down. So you also get a return if you 751 00:36:18,973 --> 00:36:23,133 Speaker 16: invest in five hundreds with a lot of our returners 752 00:36:23,173 --> 00:36:26,493 Speaker 16: just been because the American dollars with just so much 753 00:36:26,493 --> 00:36:28,493 Speaker 16: more than the New Zealand dollars, so you make money 754 00:36:28,493 --> 00:36:32,493 Speaker 16: that way as well. Yeah. 755 00:36:32,573 --> 00:36:35,013 Speaker 2: Yeah, someone made the point before those we don't have 756 00:36:35,053 --> 00:36:38,333 Speaker 2: the time to follow the ins and outs and absolutely 757 00:36:38,693 --> 00:36:43,613 Speaker 2: be across the financial markets and diversify our own portfolios. 758 00:36:44,253 --> 00:36:47,413 Speaker 2: So those managed funds where you have the smartest people 759 00:36:47,413 --> 00:36:50,173 Speaker 2: in the world running it and they mitigate risk, I 760 00:36:50,213 --> 00:36:54,133 Speaker 2: mean you have to be really running it. I used 761 00:36:54,173 --> 00:36:56,973 Speaker 2: to day trade and got really excited about it and 762 00:36:57,053 --> 00:36:59,453 Speaker 2: was doing really, really well, and then in recent years 763 00:36:59,493 --> 00:37:02,333 Speaker 2: I've just gone no investments and a managed fund. Find 764 00:37:02,333 --> 00:37:05,933 Speaker 2: a good one, and you may not get the outsized earnings, 765 00:37:06,093 --> 00:37:10,573 Speaker 2: but you also don't suddenly team yeah. 766 00:37:09,733 --> 00:37:10,453 Speaker 4: Hey, thank you so much. 767 00:37:10,453 --> 00:37:10,733 Speaker 10: People. 768 00:37:11,933 --> 00:37:15,493 Speaker 4: What's no, no, no, no, you go David Oh, I. 769 00:37:15,533 --> 00:37:19,573 Speaker 16: Was just say Frank Bogel, he's the guy who started 770 00:37:19,653 --> 00:37:22,933 Speaker 16: up Vanguards, and he was strongly disagree with that argument 771 00:37:22,973 --> 00:37:27,493 Speaker 16: that you need to have the greatest smartest people. Really 772 00:37:27,533 --> 00:37:30,853 Speaker 16: you might as well, you know, you just just do 773 00:37:30,973 --> 00:37:33,133 Speaker 16: it completely passively and then you don't have to pay 774 00:37:33,213 --> 00:37:35,692 Speaker 16: these people huge amounts of money and they can they 775 00:37:35,733 --> 00:37:40,533 Speaker 16: could say they never out to the SP five hundred. Yeah, 776 00:37:40,653 --> 00:37:41,813 Speaker 16: over the long term. 777 00:37:44,573 --> 00:37:47,573 Speaker 3: Called David being on And that was the same mistake 778 00:37:47,613 --> 00:37:49,692 Speaker 3: I made that I I did companies that I like, 779 00:37:49,693 --> 00:37:52,533 Speaker 3: like Tesla and like Airport, and of course I caught 780 00:37:52,533 --> 00:37:55,693 Speaker 3: the wrong entrance the market and I my my shares 781 00:37:55,773 --> 00:37:57,212 Speaker 3: plummeted and value well, one of. 782 00:37:57,173 --> 00:37:59,613 Speaker 2: My sons went for Disney and Netflix shares. I think 783 00:37:59,653 --> 00:38:01,253 Speaker 2: the other one was going for manage water funds. 784 00:38:01,293 --> 00:38:04,893 Speaker 3: Anyway, all right, oh, yen eighty is the number to 785 00:38:04,893 --> 00:38:06,293 Speaker 3: call it? Seven to two. 786 00:38:08,693 --> 00:38:11,853 Speaker 1: Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred and eighty 787 00:38:11,893 --> 00:38:15,613 Speaker 1: ten eighty Matten Taylor afternoons with the Volvo XC ninety 788 00:38:15,733 --> 00:38:20,093 Speaker 1: tick every box a seamless experience awaits news DOGSB. 789 00:38:20,933 --> 00:38:24,893 Speaker 3: News dogs EDB. It is five to two. Good discussion. 790 00:38:25,773 --> 00:38:27,933 Speaker 2: I wish my money was invested in whoever was making 791 00:38:28,013 --> 00:38:30,333 Speaker 2: javelin missiles back at the start of the Ukraine War. 792 00:38:30,373 --> 00:38:32,733 Speaker 2: I'd be raking it in. So that person probably isn't 793 00:38:33,173 --> 00:38:35,133 Speaker 2: working for mindful money. 794 00:38:36,453 --> 00:38:38,893 Speaker 3: Right, Thank you very much for all your phone calls 795 00:38:39,013 --> 00:38:42,293 Speaker 3: and ticks on that. And I think, as a lot 796 00:38:42,293 --> 00:38:44,053 Speaker 3: of people are alluding to, you've just got to do 797 00:38:44,133 --> 00:38:47,413 Speaker 3: your best when you're investing and working towards your retirement. 798 00:38:47,613 --> 00:38:50,293 Speaker 3: You can't be in this pretty privileged position to say 799 00:38:50,933 --> 00:38:53,373 Speaker 3: I don't like weapons and I don't like agony to 800 00:38:53,453 --> 00:38:55,693 Speaker 3: human people because. 801 00:38:55,573 --> 00:38:57,693 Speaker 2: You're ethically investing that the rest of your life is 802 00:38:57,733 --> 00:38:58,613 Speaker 2: an ethical. 803 00:38:58,373 --> 00:39:01,652 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly right. Coming up after two o'clock, we're going 804 00:39:01,693 --> 00:39:03,893 Speaker 3: to have a chat about having your phone on you 805 00:39:04,133 --> 00:39:06,413 Speaker 3: at work on the back of a young fella who 806 00:39:06,813 --> 00:39:08,893 Speaker 3: got fired after he had his cell phone on him 807 00:39:08,893 --> 00:39:11,093 Speaker 3: and his boss got pretty annoyed. That is coming up 808 00:39:11,133 --> 00:39:13,652 Speaker 3: very shortly. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is 809 00:39:13,693 --> 00:39:43,933 Speaker 3: the number. Call nineteen ninety two is the text number. 810 00:39:51,093 --> 00:39:51,453 Speaker 5: Send b. 811 00:39:54,733 --> 00:39:58,933 Speaker 1: Your new home for insightful and entertaining talk. It's Mattie 812 00:39:59,213 --> 00:40:01,493 Speaker 1: and Tylor Adams afternoons with the. 813 00:40:01,533 --> 00:40:03,893 Speaker 5: Volvo XC ninety on youth Talk. 814 00:40:04,013 --> 00:40:07,053 Speaker 3: Send me welcome back. Great to have your company. As always, 815 00:40:07,093 --> 00:40:08,613 Speaker 3: six past two before we got on to. 816 00:40:08,653 --> 00:40:12,293 Speaker 2: The next topic, I've just been proven wrong twice badly 817 00:40:12,573 --> 00:40:13,133 Speaker 2: so David. 818 00:40:13,133 --> 00:40:14,893 Speaker 4: I was talking to David, and he was talking about. 819 00:40:14,653 --> 00:40:18,613 Speaker 2: Indexed funds YEP, which is basically pulling money from investors 820 00:40:18,653 --> 00:40:21,853 Speaker 2: and using it by stocks that mirror a specific market. 821 00:40:21,893 --> 00:40:23,413 Speaker 2: You know, the SMP five hundred that's that he was 822 00:40:23,413 --> 00:40:27,293 Speaker 2: talking about. Is called passive investment, a passive investment strategy. 823 00:40:27,533 --> 00:40:29,053 Speaker 2: And I was saying, yeah, but you always want to 824 00:40:29,093 --> 00:40:31,413 Speaker 2: go for the managed funds, right, And then I looked 825 00:40:31,413 --> 00:40:34,333 Speaker 2: at my stocks and he's totally right that passive one's 826 00:40:34,373 --> 00:40:36,252 Speaker 2: going a lot better than my managed ones. 827 00:40:36,693 --> 00:40:38,493 Speaker 4: And the other thing I was wrong about us. 828 00:40:38,533 --> 00:40:40,613 Speaker 2: I was making a joke about how when I set 829 00:40:40,693 --> 00:40:44,373 Speaker 2: up my sons and an investment, one of them bought 830 00:40:44,373 --> 00:40:48,253 Speaker 2: shares in Netflix because he liked Netflix. Yeah, and then 831 00:40:48,293 --> 00:40:50,533 Speaker 2: I was laughing at him. And then I've just gone 832 00:40:50,573 --> 00:40:52,692 Speaker 2: back in after a few texts, and it's like he's 833 00:40:52,733 --> 00:40:56,733 Speaker 2: been doing very well on Netflix, his silly investing, just 834 00:40:56,773 --> 00:40:59,133 Speaker 2: because he thought, hey, look there's Netflix there, I can 835 00:40:59,173 --> 00:41:00,053 Speaker 2: invest in Netflix. 836 00:41:00,133 --> 00:41:01,893 Speaker 3: Yep, I watch Netflix. I like Netflix. 837 00:41:01,973 --> 00:41:03,772 Speaker 4: Up two hundred and nine percent in the last two years. 838 00:41:04,213 --> 00:41:06,493 Speaker 3: Yes, So thank you very much for those TIS. 839 00:41:06,533 --> 00:41:09,692 Speaker 2: Tried to shame, to shame my son, and he's proved 840 00:41:09,693 --> 00:41:11,453 Speaker 2: me wrong and tried to shame my other son for 841 00:41:11,533 --> 00:41:15,613 Speaker 2: investing in a water index Global water Index, and he's 842 00:41:15,613 --> 00:41:16,772 Speaker 2: done really well there. 843 00:41:16,933 --> 00:41:19,173 Speaker 3: So just give your investment money to your boy. He 844 00:41:19,253 --> 00:41:20,413 Speaker 3: knows what he's doing clearly. 845 00:41:20,813 --> 00:41:23,013 Speaker 2: And to that call of David, he's totally right about 846 00:41:23,013 --> 00:41:24,533 Speaker 2: the SMP five hundred. 847 00:41:24,653 --> 00:41:27,172 Speaker 3: Yeah, very good. That's why we love this show right 848 00:41:27,253 --> 00:41:30,053 Speaker 3: on to this topic, which is going to be a doozy. 849 00:41:30,093 --> 00:41:32,212 Speaker 3: So boss who told worker to get off his phone 850 00:41:32,333 --> 00:41:34,413 Speaker 3: ordered to pay fifteen hundred bucks. This is a Queen's 851 00:41:34,413 --> 00:41:37,613 Speaker 3: down fencing company. They gave an inexperienced man a trial 852 00:41:37,693 --> 00:41:39,613 Speaker 3: run to see how he went, with a view on 853 00:41:39,733 --> 00:41:41,813 Speaker 3: taking them on full time. But the man's use of 854 00:41:41,813 --> 00:41:45,013 Speaker 3: his cell phone at work began to anger his boss 855 00:41:45,093 --> 00:41:47,493 Speaker 3: fair enough to leading to a heated argument and the 856 00:41:47,533 --> 00:41:49,613 Speaker 3: man walking off the job less than two weeks into 857 00:41:49,693 --> 00:41:52,973 Speaker 3: his trial. He then went to the Employment Relations Authority 858 00:41:52,973 --> 00:41:55,053 Speaker 3: and they awarded him fifteen hundred bucks. But forget about 859 00:41:55,093 --> 00:41:55,933 Speaker 3: the fifteen hundred bucks. 860 00:41:55,933 --> 00:41:57,853 Speaker 2: So the fifteen hundred bucks wasn't anything to do with 861 00:41:58,373 --> 00:42:00,773 Speaker 2: getting told to get off the phone. That was to 862 00:42:00,813 --> 00:42:03,573 Speaker 2: do with they hadn't they hadn't put together a contract 863 00:42:03,573 --> 00:42:05,652 Speaker 2: for the first ninety days an employment contract. 864 00:42:05,333 --> 00:42:05,933 Speaker 3: Right correct. 865 00:42:06,013 --> 00:42:08,813 Speaker 2: Yeah, But there was a back and forth out getting 866 00:42:08,813 --> 00:42:11,812 Speaker 2: gelled to get off the phone, And that really sort 867 00:42:11,853 --> 00:42:14,212 Speaker 2: of is the question, can your boss tell you didn't 868 00:42:14,213 --> 00:42:16,133 Speaker 2: ever be on the phone, Because often when I'm here, 869 00:42:16,133 --> 00:42:17,573 Speaker 2: I lock up and Tyler's just on his phone. I 870 00:42:17,613 --> 00:42:21,253 Speaker 2: know he's doing scrolling through bikini shots and Instagram or something. 871 00:42:21,253 --> 00:42:23,053 Speaker 2: I don't know what you're doing over there, you're looking 872 00:42:23,053 --> 00:42:25,172 Speaker 2: at what, But it just seems that when you're at 873 00:42:25,213 --> 00:42:27,573 Speaker 2: work and you're being paid, you should be working. So 874 00:42:27,813 --> 00:42:29,893 Speaker 2: what is a reasonable amount of time I'd like to 875 00:42:29,933 --> 00:42:32,692 Speaker 2: hear from bosses and people that are at work. What's 876 00:42:32,693 --> 00:42:35,053 Speaker 2: a reasonable amount of time to spend on your phone? 877 00:42:35,133 --> 00:42:39,293 Speaker 2: Because because sure, if someone you know, your kid at 878 00:42:39,293 --> 00:42:40,933 Speaker 2: home has got an emergency, you might have to deal 879 00:42:40,933 --> 00:42:43,053 Speaker 2: with that, or there's all these kind of things, a 880 00:42:43,053 --> 00:42:45,493 Speaker 2: bit of Edmund here and there. But what's a reasonable 881 00:42:45,533 --> 00:42:47,933 Speaker 2: time to spend on your phone? Because how do you 882 00:42:47,973 --> 00:42:50,813 Speaker 2: spend This guy here, I think, and I might be 883 00:42:50,853 --> 00:42:53,893 Speaker 2: reading this wrong, but was admitted to spending an hour 884 00:42:53,933 --> 00:42:55,893 Speaker 2: of his working day on the phone each day. 885 00:42:55,933 --> 00:42:57,973 Speaker 3: Well, that is crazy. I mean, if the boss sees 886 00:42:58,013 --> 00:42:59,613 Speaker 3: get off your phone, you've got to get off your phone. 887 00:42:59,653 --> 00:43:01,213 Speaker 3: That is the end of story. I mean, if you 888 00:43:01,253 --> 00:43:04,333 Speaker 3: want to go to the bathroom and I don't know, 889 00:43:04,453 --> 00:43:07,853 Speaker 3: do whatever you're going to do, scroll on Facebook, Instagram, YadA, yah, yadda. 890 00:43:07,973 --> 00:43:09,573 Speaker 3: Maybe that is the time you could do it. You 891 00:43:09,573 --> 00:43:10,893 Speaker 3: could do it on your break. 892 00:43:10,653 --> 00:43:13,093 Speaker 2: As long as it doesn't extend the length of your ablution, 893 00:43:14,973 --> 00:43:17,252 Speaker 2: because how do they know, you said, if you're you're 894 00:43:17,293 --> 00:43:18,973 Speaker 2: in there on your phone, sitting so long that your 895 00:43:19,053 --> 00:43:21,973 Speaker 2: lead goes dead and fall over getting out of the bathroom, 896 00:43:23,093 --> 00:43:23,973 Speaker 2: fall out of the portoloo. 897 00:43:24,133 --> 00:43:25,933 Speaker 3: We can't extend out time. I wish I could because 898 00:43:25,933 --> 00:43:28,293 Speaker 3: I was trying to nail connections. But yeah, I mean, 899 00:43:28,413 --> 00:43:28,772 Speaker 3: And I've. 900 00:43:28,693 --> 00:43:30,733 Speaker 2: Got another side topic on this, which I think is 901 00:43:30,733 --> 00:43:34,413 Speaker 2: sad when you see work sites that now at the 902 00:43:34,413 --> 00:43:37,093 Speaker 2: break instead of people sitting around talking and the work site, 903 00:43:37,093 --> 00:43:38,973 Speaker 2: they're all just lined up on their phone, so no 904 00:43:39,013 --> 00:43:40,173 Speaker 2: one talks to each other anymore. 905 00:43:40,333 --> 00:43:41,893 Speaker 4: I think that's a really sad part. 906 00:43:41,933 --> 00:43:44,413 Speaker 2: So I'd love to hear about that from from trade's 907 00:43:45,013 --> 00:43:47,333 Speaker 2: or you know, people that take a break together, whether 908 00:43:47,373 --> 00:43:50,413 Speaker 2: everyone's just sitting around in their phone rather than communicating 909 00:43:50,453 --> 00:43:51,293 Speaker 2: over their lunch breaks. 910 00:43:51,453 --> 00:43:53,733 Speaker 3: Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number 911 00:43:53,733 --> 00:43:55,853 Speaker 3: to call? Nine two ninety two. What about office workers? 912 00:43:55,853 --> 00:43:58,252 Speaker 3: Because I see it in this office where you walk 913 00:43:58,293 --> 00:44:01,732 Speaker 3: around and Facebook will be up, and some here could 914 00:44:01,853 --> 00:44:03,933 Speaker 3: argue they are doing that for work purposes, but we 915 00:44:04,013 --> 00:44:05,573 Speaker 3: know they're not doing it for work purposes. 916 00:44:05,653 --> 00:44:08,093 Speaker 2: So do you owe your boss to be working the 917 00:44:08,093 --> 00:44:12,973 Speaker 2: whole time you're getting paid. Yeah, absolutely, what about what 918 00:44:13,093 --> 00:44:16,813 Speaker 2: about just going to get a coffee? Like what percentage? 919 00:44:16,853 --> 00:44:18,573 Speaker 2: I mean, back in the day, people used to smoke. 920 00:44:18,693 --> 00:44:20,533 Speaker 2: Used to have a mess of advantage, didn't they because 921 00:44:20,613 --> 00:44:22,653 Speaker 2: they were out all the time. Often in the bosses 922 00:44:22,693 --> 00:44:24,812 Speaker 2: are getting a promotion having a cigarette with the boss. 923 00:44:24,813 --> 00:44:28,133 Speaker 2: I mean I rose to the top through smoking with bosses. 924 00:44:28,293 --> 00:44:28,493 Speaker 3: Yeah. 925 00:44:28,573 --> 00:44:31,933 Speaker 2: Since I've given up smoking, I've just sunk off the cliff. 926 00:44:32,213 --> 00:44:36,133 Speaker 2: But you know how much of your time is your 927 00:44:36,573 --> 00:44:40,293 Speaker 2: as all the time at work belonged to your employee. 928 00:44:40,493 --> 00:44:44,253 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I had a boss and I've never forgotten this. 929 00:44:44,293 --> 00:44:46,493 Speaker 3: And he called at this wasn't quite on paraphrasing here, 930 00:44:46,493 --> 00:44:48,133 Speaker 3: but he called it screw around time. And he said, 931 00:44:48,173 --> 00:44:50,652 Speaker 3: there's always screw around time in the day. But as 932 00:44:50,693 --> 00:44:52,693 Speaker 3: long as you get the work done, I need you 933 00:44:52,733 --> 00:44:55,053 Speaker 3: to get done. I'm okay with that. And I always 934 00:44:55,053 --> 00:44:57,172 Speaker 3: remembered that, and I kind of like that philosophy. As 935 00:44:57,213 --> 00:44:59,692 Speaker 3: long as you were doing what you need to do 936 00:44:59,733 --> 00:45:02,652 Speaker 3: to get the job done, then there is obviously some 937 00:45:02,893 --> 00:45:04,973 Speaker 3: time that may you may need to go to a 938 00:45:05,013 --> 00:45:08,252 Speaker 3: doctor's appointment, or maybe you've got to go get a Here, 939 00:45:08,533 --> 00:45:10,853 Speaker 3: you negotiate that with your boss or in this case, 940 00:45:11,213 --> 00:45:12,733 Speaker 3: you want to have we scroll on Facebook. 941 00:45:12,773 --> 00:45:15,533 Speaker 2: Well, hard to quantify in some jobs, but yeah, eight 942 00:45:15,613 --> 00:45:18,493 Speaker 2: hundred eighty ten eighty. If you're an employer and you 943 00:45:18,573 --> 00:45:20,973 Speaker 2: think your workers are on their phones or social media 944 00:45:21,013 --> 00:45:23,053 Speaker 2: too much, and how you deal with it, And if 945 00:45:23,093 --> 00:45:25,692 Speaker 2: you're an employee and you think you have the right 946 00:45:25,733 --> 00:45:27,172 Speaker 2: to be on your phone a certain amount of time 947 00:45:27,173 --> 00:45:28,333 Speaker 2: the day, we'd love to hear from you as well. 948 00:45:28,533 --> 00:45:30,093 Speaker 2: One hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number. 949 00:45:30,133 --> 00:45:33,213 Speaker 3: It airs twelve past two. 950 00:45:33,693 --> 00:45:37,573 Speaker 1: Your new home of Afternoon Talk Matt and Taylor afternoons 951 00:45:37,733 --> 00:45:41,693 Speaker 1: with the Volvo XC ninety turn every journey into something special. 952 00:45:41,813 --> 00:45:43,693 Speaker 5: Call eight hundred eighty ten eighty. 953 00:45:43,813 --> 00:45:47,893 Speaker 3: News Talk said, be good afternoon. We're talking about having 954 00:45:47,893 --> 00:45:52,013 Speaker 3: your cell phone in your workplace. Is it acceptable to 955 00:45:52,013 --> 00:45:54,053 Speaker 3: be on your phone for any length of time while 956 00:45:54,053 --> 00:45:56,293 Speaker 3: you're on the clock. That's on the back of a 957 00:45:56,773 --> 00:46:01,893 Speaker 3: Queen'stown fencing employee who was given as marching orders after 958 00:46:01,973 --> 00:46:05,772 Speaker 3: being on his phone for sometimes an hour per working day. 959 00:46:06,253 --> 00:46:07,933 Speaker 2: He has a text on nine two nine two, got 960 00:46:07,973 --> 00:46:10,173 Speaker 2: at drove me crazy. I run a roofing company. Just 961 00:46:10,253 --> 00:46:11,933 Speaker 2: drove up to sight and my boys are sitting up 962 00:46:11,933 --> 00:46:14,773 Speaker 2: there on their phones. Another one says, ridiculous. This is 963 00:46:14,773 --> 00:46:17,053 Speaker 2: the opposite opinion. I work for you. You don't own 964 00:46:17,093 --> 00:46:18,693 Speaker 2: me if I want to be on my phone or 965 00:46:18,693 --> 00:46:21,693 Speaker 2: be on my phone. I'm not your slave. And zero 966 00:46:21,733 --> 00:46:23,652 Speaker 2: time in your phone is acceptable to a workplace. What 967 00:46:23,733 --> 00:46:26,172 Speaker 2: are these emergencies? I work with this guy whose life 968 00:46:26,253 --> 00:46:28,533 Speaker 2: must be a living hell. He's got three or four 969 00:46:28,533 --> 00:46:29,772 Speaker 2: hours of emergencies a day. 970 00:46:30,653 --> 00:46:33,093 Speaker 3: One hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. 971 00:46:33,333 --> 00:46:33,893 Speaker 3: Hey you Lynn? 972 00:46:34,973 --> 00:46:35,172 Speaker 10: Hi? 973 00:46:35,453 --> 00:46:36,693 Speaker 14: How are you this afternoon? 974 00:46:36,933 --> 00:46:38,813 Speaker 3: Very good? How are you you sound, chipper? 975 00:46:39,693 --> 00:46:42,252 Speaker 17: Oh? Just a box of fluffies. You're in the many 976 00:46:42,253 --> 00:46:45,813 Speaker 17: are Toto and the beautiful sun shining, and the birds 977 00:46:45,813 --> 00:46:48,253 Speaker 17: are singing love me, And I'm not and I'm on 978 00:46:48,293 --> 00:46:48,773 Speaker 17: my phone. 979 00:46:50,573 --> 00:46:53,252 Speaker 4: This is different. I mean you're communicating on your phone. 980 00:46:53,573 --> 00:46:54,573 Speaker 4: You're not doom scrolling. 981 00:46:55,453 --> 00:46:56,733 Speaker 17: I'm also self employed. 982 00:46:57,053 --> 00:46:58,533 Speaker 3: You are the boss of yourself. 983 00:46:58,573 --> 00:46:59,973 Speaker 4: Have you ever yelled at yourself of being on your 984 00:47:00,013 --> 00:47:00,613 Speaker 4: phone too much? 985 00:47:01,333 --> 00:47:01,533 Speaker 8: Oh? 986 00:47:01,653 --> 00:47:05,533 Speaker 17: Yes, those real, the terrible things you get hopped on them. 987 00:47:05,773 --> 00:47:10,172 Speaker 4: Yeah, that'll suck your life, those reelsik. 988 00:47:09,813 --> 00:47:12,253 Speaker 3: You just want more and more and more. Yeah anyway, 989 00:47:12,293 --> 00:47:16,173 Speaker 3: go Yeah. So going back to employees having their phones 990 00:47:16,213 --> 00:47:19,493 Speaker 3: at work. Have you ever been in a situation where 991 00:47:19,653 --> 00:47:25,253 Speaker 3: the employee is spending far too much time on Instagram? 992 00:47:25,693 --> 00:47:28,613 Speaker 17: Well, I was working in a cast where we weren't 993 00:47:28,613 --> 00:47:31,813 Speaker 17: allowed our phones on until we had our break unless 994 00:47:31,853 --> 00:47:34,693 Speaker 17: it was an emergency like and then it had to 995 00:47:34,693 --> 00:47:38,053 Speaker 17: be on vibrate and if our phones went off during 996 00:47:38,093 --> 00:47:41,253 Speaker 17: work time, my boss got a little bit gary about it. 997 00:47:41,933 --> 00:47:46,573 Speaker 17: But I also was a tutor and for our adults, 998 00:47:46,853 --> 00:47:49,893 Speaker 17: And it's amazing how many people just can't go fifty 999 00:47:49,933 --> 00:47:53,933 Speaker 17: minutes without looking at their phones for some reason. So 1000 00:47:54,773 --> 00:47:58,573 Speaker 17: if you're working for somebody, then you have break time. 1001 00:47:59,213 --> 00:48:03,133 Speaker 17: If you can't handle not looking at your phone for 1002 00:48:03,293 --> 00:48:07,493 Speaker 17: a couple of hours, then really you know you've got 1003 00:48:07,693 --> 00:48:11,413 Speaker 17: you've got a problem. If your and if your boss 1004 00:48:11,493 --> 00:48:14,573 Speaker 17: is paying you to work, you should be working. 1005 00:48:14,973 --> 00:48:16,693 Speaker 2: What if that person that's looking at their phone a 1006 00:48:16,693 --> 00:48:18,813 Speaker 2: lot is also getting all the work done and you're 1007 00:48:18,813 --> 00:48:22,773 Speaker 2: pretty happy with what they're providing for you, do you 1008 00:48:22,813 --> 00:48:24,853 Speaker 2: still would you still be angry at them being on 1009 00:48:24,893 --> 00:48:27,013 Speaker 2: their phone because you think, well, you could be doing more. 1010 00:48:27,573 --> 00:48:28,933 Speaker 4: But you know, if you're getting the job, if you're 1011 00:48:28,933 --> 00:48:29,613 Speaker 4: getting the job. 1012 00:48:29,493 --> 00:48:32,652 Speaker 17: Done, well, if you're trying to make coffee and you're 1013 00:48:32,813 --> 00:48:35,933 Speaker 17: and you're scrolling through reels as well, that's not a 1014 00:48:35,973 --> 00:48:38,973 Speaker 17: happening thing. If you're trying to put caps on cows, 1015 00:48:39,453 --> 00:48:41,933 Speaker 17: and it's not a happening thing either because you're going 1016 00:48:42,013 --> 00:48:43,893 Speaker 17: to be stopping to look at your phone or wipe 1017 00:48:43,933 --> 00:48:46,133 Speaker 17: your hand because they'll be covered in koshit before. 1018 00:48:45,893 --> 00:48:47,653 Speaker 14: You can actually social fine. 1019 00:48:47,813 --> 00:48:52,453 Speaker 17: Yeah, and if you're outside doing work in an attractor 1020 00:48:52,493 --> 00:48:55,493 Speaker 17: where you're supposed to be concentrating on what you're doing, 1021 00:48:55,573 --> 00:48:58,252 Speaker 17: it's like using your phone and driving on the road. 1022 00:48:58,293 --> 00:49:00,293 Speaker 17: It shouldn't It shouldn't be happening. 1023 00:49:00,773 --> 00:49:03,373 Speaker 2: What of the jobs that are most being on your phone, 1024 00:49:03,413 --> 00:49:05,613 Speaker 2: A lot's the most prevalent. Because this case we're talking 1025 00:49:05,613 --> 00:49:07,893 Speaker 2: about it was a fenser so and he's working with 1026 00:49:07,933 --> 00:49:09,573 Speaker 2: his boss, so the boss can see he's on the 1027 00:49:09,573 --> 00:49:11,413 Speaker 2: phone when he's supposed to be doing it all the time. 1028 00:49:11,613 --> 00:49:13,813 Speaker 2: We've had that text before from a roofer who's drive 1029 00:49:14,133 --> 00:49:16,853 Speaker 2: driven up to sight and seeing that his boys are 1030 00:49:16,893 --> 00:49:20,053 Speaker 2: on the roof on their phones. Office work, I think 1031 00:49:20,133 --> 00:49:22,893 Speaker 2: office work is rife with people just being on social 1032 00:49:22,893 --> 00:49:23,773 Speaker 2: media and not working. 1033 00:49:24,973 --> 00:49:27,453 Speaker 17: Yeah, well, how do you know if you've got if 1034 00:49:27,453 --> 00:49:29,732 Speaker 17: you're in putting in your data and you're not concentrating, 1035 00:49:30,253 --> 00:49:32,453 Speaker 17: then that's how you can end up having a cock 1036 00:49:32,533 --> 00:49:36,253 Speaker 17: up Like there are people's rates got taken out twice 1037 00:49:36,373 --> 00:49:39,053 Speaker 17: just lately in some council. How do you know it 1038 00:49:39,133 --> 00:49:42,252 Speaker 17: wasn't a person in the office who wasn't concentrating when 1039 00:49:42,293 --> 00:49:44,293 Speaker 17: they were putting and putting that information. 1040 00:49:44,533 --> 00:49:47,093 Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope this still happens in workplaces where you 1041 00:49:47,173 --> 00:49:49,533 Speaker 3: absolutely shouldn't be on your phone, but that you know 1042 00:49:49,573 --> 00:49:52,293 Speaker 3: they make you put it in a locker before you start. 1043 00:49:52,493 --> 00:49:55,253 Speaker 3: I'm thinking about factories obviously what you said. Then if 1044 00:49:55,253 --> 00:49:57,652 Speaker 3: you're in a job where you have to drive that 1045 00:49:58,093 --> 00:50:01,013 Speaker 3: they physically make you put your phone away during the workday, 1046 00:50:01,333 --> 00:50:02,493 Speaker 3: I've got no problem. 1047 00:50:02,173 --> 00:50:04,413 Speaker 5: With that, yep. 1048 00:50:05,053 --> 00:50:08,613 Speaker 17: And I know on some outdoor jobs you do you 1049 00:50:08,733 --> 00:50:10,533 Speaker 17: have to have a phone so that your boss can 1050 00:50:10,573 --> 00:50:14,172 Speaker 17: contact you or it's a health and safety thing. But 1051 00:50:14,413 --> 00:50:18,453 Speaker 17: you shouldn't be taking advantage of that either. And I 1052 00:50:18,493 --> 00:50:21,253 Speaker 17: think a lot of a lot of sorry young people 1053 00:50:23,693 --> 00:50:27,732 Speaker 17: think that they're fearly entitled now to do that. And 1054 00:50:28,053 --> 00:50:31,413 Speaker 17: you know, because like that text message you got through 1055 00:50:31,453 --> 00:50:34,573 Speaker 17: before about I can do what I like, you're not 1056 00:50:34,733 --> 00:50:36,813 Speaker 17: You're not the boss of me sort of thing. Well, 1057 00:50:37,293 --> 00:50:39,413 Speaker 17: that's a pretty duck attitude, you know. 1058 00:50:39,653 --> 00:50:44,333 Speaker 4: It's also not true that text thing ridiculously I work. 1059 00:50:44,253 --> 00:50:46,333 Speaker 2: For you, you don't know me if I want to 1060 00:50:46,373 --> 00:50:47,813 Speaker 2: be on my phone or be on my phone. I'm 1061 00:50:47,813 --> 00:50:49,973 Speaker 2: not your slave, which is basically another way of saying 1062 00:50:49,973 --> 00:50:51,373 Speaker 2: you're not the boss of me, but you kind of 1063 00:50:51,413 --> 00:50:53,652 Speaker 2: Are they the official? 1064 00:50:53,093 --> 00:50:54,173 Speaker 3: Literally? 1065 00:50:54,213 --> 00:50:57,373 Speaker 2: Are they possibly? Thank you so much for your call? Lynn, 1066 00:50:58,213 --> 00:51:00,693 Speaker 2: This this Texas is good a guys. No phones allowed 1067 00:51:00,693 --> 00:51:03,013 Speaker 2: in the workshop, too much of a distraction. Safety first, 1068 00:51:03,053 --> 00:51:05,893 Speaker 2: that's from Craig Hi. Guys, matters right. I'm a trade 1069 00:51:06,053 --> 00:51:09,093 Speaker 2: and smoker. These days is very different. Everyone's in silence 1070 00:51:09,093 --> 00:51:11,733 Speaker 2: on their phones. Maybe the occasional life kind of sad. 1071 00:51:12,013 --> 00:51:13,973 Speaker 2: If it's just me and the boss, there might be 1072 00:51:14,013 --> 00:51:17,013 Speaker 2: a small amount of chat. It always gets out cut 1073 00:51:17,053 --> 00:51:20,733 Speaker 2: off early though, due to the bloody phone ringing. I 1074 00:51:20,893 --> 00:51:25,533 Speaker 2: call sorry, just another season. I call it no nocializing. 1075 00:51:25,973 --> 00:51:26,893 Speaker 2: That cheers Kellum. 1076 00:51:27,173 --> 00:51:29,413 Speaker 3: That is the sad part about the trading smoko, because 1077 00:51:29,453 --> 00:51:31,893 Speaker 3: they were I mean, the plumbers had some cracking stories. 1078 00:51:31,933 --> 00:51:35,533 Speaker 3: Absolutely filthy you plumbers, but cracking stories, honestly cool. 1079 00:51:35,573 --> 00:51:35,812 Speaker 6: Matt. 1080 00:51:35,853 --> 00:51:37,533 Speaker 3: If the boss said we're going to take your phone 1081 00:51:37,533 --> 00:51:39,773 Speaker 3: away while you're on a here because we don't want 1082 00:51:39,773 --> 00:51:42,533 Speaker 3: you to have it. Would you do it? Do I 1083 00:51:42,573 --> 00:51:45,933 Speaker 3: have a bossy Listen, you're a slave. 1084 00:51:46,853 --> 00:51:48,853 Speaker 4: You're one of these slaves. Okay, I was flip that 1085 00:51:48,933 --> 00:51:50,333 Speaker 4: on you. If I told you to get off your phone, 1086 00:51:50,333 --> 00:51:51,173 Speaker 4: would you No? 1087 00:51:51,173 --> 00:51:53,493 Speaker 3: No, I love it so much. I'm on Instagram. 1088 00:51:54,013 --> 00:51:56,293 Speaker 4: Oh, think it'd be pretty egregious if we were just 1089 00:51:56,293 --> 00:51:58,333 Speaker 4: sitting here on our phones trying to do our radio show. 1090 00:51:58,573 --> 00:52:00,853 Speaker 3: Oh, eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number 1091 00:52:00,893 --> 00:52:01,893 Speaker 3: to call nineteen nineteen. 1092 00:52:01,973 --> 00:52:03,893 Speaker 2: I mean, although, to be fair, our job does involve 1093 00:52:03,973 --> 00:52:06,053 Speaker 2: asking people to call eight hundred eighty ten eighty and 1094 00:52:06,133 --> 00:52:08,053 Speaker 2: jump on their phones, some of them while they're at work. 1095 00:52:08,093 --> 00:52:09,653 Speaker 3: Yeah, so get your phone out of your locker and 1096 00:52:09,693 --> 00:52:11,853 Speaker 3: give us a bars nineteen NINETI it's a text number. 1097 00:52:11,893 --> 00:52:13,213 Speaker 3: It is twenty one bus. 1098 00:52:12,973 --> 00:52:20,853 Speaker 1: Too, Mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred 1099 00:52:20,893 --> 00:52:22,933 Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty on News Talks. 1100 00:52:22,693 --> 00:52:26,573 Speaker 3: EDB, News Talks EDB very good afternoons. You were talking 1101 00:52:26,573 --> 00:52:28,373 Speaker 3: about phones in the workplace on. 1102 00:52:28,453 --> 00:52:30,013 Speaker 2: Host Tyler's just been looking up to see if I'm 1103 00:52:30,013 --> 00:52:31,493 Speaker 2: the boss of him, he claims, I'm not. 1104 00:52:31,573 --> 00:52:33,453 Speaker 3: I was showing you my Instagram reels. I'm pretty cool 1105 00:52:33,493 --> 00:52:37,853 Speaker 3: that on the back of this young feller who got 1106 00:52:37,893 --> 00:52:40,893 Speaker 3: marching orders. He was part of a Queenstown fencing company 1107 00:52:40,893 --> 00:52:42,453 Speaker 3: and the boss thought he was on his phone too much. 1108 00:52:42,453 --> 00:52:44,813 Speaker 3: And I will say an added thing about this story 1109 00:52:45,253 --> 00:52:46,853 Speaker 3: is that they gave this guy a shot. He was 1110 00:52:46,853 --> 00:52:48,813 Speaker 3: an experience, gave him a trial run to see how 1111 00:52:48,813 --> 00:52:50,093 Speaker 3: he was going to go, with a view on taking 1112 00:52:50,133 --> 00:52:53,533 Speaker 3: him on the first time. The boss said, get off 1113 00:52:53,533 --> 00:52:56,053 Speaker 3: your bloody fine it should have been it. It's so sorry, but. 1114 00:52:56,093 --> 00:52:59,453 Speaker 4: In your ninety trial ninety one, get on your phone. 1115 00:52:59,453 --> 00:53:00,013 Speaker 3: Idiots. 1116 00:53:01,253 --> 00:53:03,732 Speaker 4: Josh, you're on your phone right now at work? 1117 00:53:04,653 --> 00:53:07,453 Speaker 13: Yeah, sure, I made. I'm just driving along in the 1118 00:53:07,573 --> 00:53:10,973 Speaker 13: track here. Yeah, not very sape mate. I'm not on 1119 00:53:11,013 --> 00:53:15,093 Speaker 13: the road. I just obviously it's kins on what John 1120 00:53:15,173 --> 00:53:15,653 Speaker 13: you're doing. 1121 00:53:16,613 --> 00:53:17,453 Speaker 12: Like my job. 1122 00:53:17,653 --> 00:53:19,973 Speaker 13: I'm not the boss, but I'm required to have my 1123 00:53:20,013 --> 00:53:22,933 Speaker 13: phone on me twenty four to seven. That's just common scenes. 1124 00:53:23,213 --> 00:53:27,253 Speaker 13: If you're scrolling, you're in the wrong. Yeah, we have 1125 00:53:27,413 --> 00:53:32,293 Speaker 13: had a guy that was caught scrolling. There's probably more 1126 00:53:32,293 --> 00:53:36,453 Speaker 13: of a smoke Poe time building site chat, but we've 1127 00:53:36,453 --> 00:53:40,733 Speaker 13: had a guy called looking at some red sites. He 1128 00:53:40,733 --> 00:53:44,413 Speaker 13: he was fight, Yeah, I think that is. Yeah. I 1129 00:53:44,453 --> 00:53:45,573 Speaker 13: don't think he appealed it. 1130 00:53:45,533 --> 00:53:50,172 Speaker 4: Because he was What kind of sights was he looking at? 1131 00:53:50,213 --> 00:53:50,973 Speaker 4: Like blue material? 1132 00:53:51,893 --> 00:53:52,613 Speaker 13: Yeah? 1133 00:53:52,773 --> 00:53:55,333 Speaker 4: At work? Yeah, I mean I don't think anyone could beg. 1134 00:53:55,453 --> 00:53:57,133 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's dangerous behavior, isn't it. 1135 00:53:57,133 --> 00:54:00,613 Speaker 13: That is risky parked up in ad at the back 1136 00:54:00,653 --> 00:54:04,172 Speaker 13: of the paddy. So yeah, a plan fake. 1137 00:54:06,013 --> 00:54:09,172 Speaker 2: You can't wait till you get home, buddy, Come on mate, jesus. 1138 00:54:09,933 --> 00:54:11,212 Speaker 13: Yeah, well you got sent home. 1139 00:54:11,333 --> 00:54:12,613 Speaker 6: So he got sort there out there. 1140 00:54:12,893 --> 00:54:17,813 Speaker 13: But it's just common sense, mate, And I haven't seen it. 1141 00:54:17,813 --> 00:54:21,973 Speaker 13: It's a young person's plane. You never see anyone above 1142 00:54:22,013 --> 00:54:25,573 Speaker 13: the age of thirty five and my industry strolling their phone. 1143 00:54:25,613 --> 00:54:28,853 Speaker 13: You just go and see it. Should person's game? 1144 00:54:29,133 --> 00:54:31,453 Speaker 2: Should that be some sympathy for these people if they've 1145 00:54:31,453 --> 00:54:35,013 Speaker 2: got an addiction, because a lot of people are just 1146 00:54:35,053 --> 00:54:37,053 Speaker 2: completely addicted to their phone. They might even know that 1147 00:54:37,053 --> 00:54:39,373 Speaker 2: they're on their phone. They're just sitting there trying to work. 1148 00:54:39,373 --> 00:54:40,853 Speaker 2: Next thing you know, it's in their in their hand. 1149 00:54:41,533 --> 00:54:44,933 Speaker 2: I mean, there's there any somebody for that. No, somebody, no, no. 1150 00:54:45,013 --> 00:54:47,333 Speaker 13: Somebody at all. It's just like you've got a job 1151 00:54:47,373 --> 00:54:50,173 Speaker 13: to do you do it if you're getting distracted and 1152 00:54:50,373 --> 00:54:51,133 Speaker 13: just work harder. 1153 00:54:51,493 --> 00:54:52,613 Speaker 3: Do you think we're going to have to take the 1154 00:54:52,653 --> 00:54:54,613 Speaker 3: road of what we did with our children and say 1155 00:54:54,693 --> 00:54:57,013 Speaker 3: you can't have your phone on you anymore, put it 1156 00:54:57,053 --> 00:54:59,093 Speaker 3: in your locker, you can't be trusted with it. We 1157 00:54:59,173 --> 00:55:00,573 Speaker 3: know you're an adult, we're gonna have to treat you 1158 00:55:00,613 --> 00:55:02,813 Speaker 3: like a child anyway because you can't step your phone 1159 00:55:02,813 --> 00:55:03,893 Speaker 3: for more than fifteen minutes. 1160 00:55:04,413 --> 00:55:07,573 Speaker 13: They're an adustry dependent though, and say like things on 1161 00:55:07,613 --> 00:55:09,933 Speaker 13: how much freeze one you've got on your own obviously, 1162 00:55:10,013 --> 00:55:13,293 Speaker 13: and like will your house isn't there? And back too 1163 00:55:13,493 --> 00:55:17,373 Speaker 13: they take the master. But yeah, I was just frustrating. 1164 00:55:17,373 --> 00:55:17,493 Speaker 18: OK. 1165 00:55:17,533 --> 00:55:19,652 Speaker 13: How when you see when you're working with people in 1166 00:55:19,773 --> 00:55:24,213 Speaker 13: us constantly scrolling and you're the same. That's very annoying. 1167 00:55:24,293 --> 00:55:26,773 Speaker 13: And I constantly see it from your twenty year olds. 1168 00:55:26,973 --> 00:55:29,333 Speaker 2: But it used to be used to be the smokers 1169 00:55:29,373 --> 00:55:32,453 Speaker 2: that did that. The smokers are always constantly outside smoking. 1170 00:55:32,413 --> 00:55:33,933 Speaker 4: And taking out time. I saw this. 1171 00:55:34,253 --> 00:55:36,573 Speaker 2: I saw the something you talk about jobs and who 1172 00:55:36,653 --> 00:55:39,213 Speaker 2: can do it? And I saw a security guard out 1173 00:55:39,253 --> 00:55:43,933 Speaker 2: the front of a jeweler standing there rotun gentleman on 1174 00:55:43,973 --> 00:55:45,893 Speaker 2: his phone. The whole time this thing? Are you really 1175 00:55:45,973 --> 00:55:49,613 Speaker 2: doing your job protecting this Michael Hill, Let's say, I'm 1176 00:55:49,613 --> 00:55:52,133 Speaker 2: not sure if it was Michael Hill, Pescoes, whatever jewelry 1177 00:55:52,173 --> 00:55:52,733 Speaker 2: store it was. 1178 00:55:52,933 --> 00:55:54,093 Speaker 4: Are you really doing the job doing that? 1179 00:55:54,133 --> 00:55:56,652 Speaker 3: If you're just staring at your phone on reels, what 1180 00:55:56,693 --> 00:55:57,533 Speaker 3: are you reagon about that one? 1181 00:55:57,573 --> 00:56:02,573 Speaker 13: Josh, No, not at all, mate. Yeah, it's just it's 1182 00:56:02,613 --> 00:56:04,653 Speaker 13: just got a personal discipline, mate. 1183 00:56:04,813 --> 00:56:04,973 Speaker 18: Yeah. 1184 00:56:05,013 --> 00:56:07,613 Speaker 13: Well when we packed it at home with the kids, mate, 1185 00:56:07,653 --> 00:56:10,413 Speaker 13: we cut them a minute thing about starlink mail. 1186 00:56:10,453 --> 00:56:12,333 Speaker 16: I can just log on, I can cut everyone. 1187 00:56:13,493 --> 00:56:15,293 Speaker 13: It's just what's that song? 1188 00:56:15,493 --> 00:56:17,453 Speaker 2: I was just gonna I was just going to say, 1189 00:56:17,493 --> 00:56:18,772 Speaker 2: what are you doing in the tractor right now? 1190 00:56:19,693 --> 00:56:22,573 Speaker 13: I've just taken a lot of rubbish to a hole? 1191 00:56:23,773 --> 00:56:26,973 Speaker 13: Just Bill, We don't put rubbish in holes, mate, No. 1192 00:56:28,533 --> 00:56:28,772 Speaker 19: More. 1193 00:56:29,733 --> 00:56:32,533 Speaker 4: And we'll come to track to you're driving. 1194 00:56:33,413 --> 00:56:35,692 Speaker 13: I'm driving a Vault So she's only one year old. 1195 00:56:35,773 --> 00:56:37,773 Speaker 13: She's it's quite beautiful sounds. 1196 00:56:38,693 --> 00:56:40,733 Speaker 4: It sounds pretty quiet in the cab acually. 1197 00:56:41,533 --> 00:56:44,533 Speaker 13: Yeah, I turned the conditioning mask. I could hear you. 1198 00:56:44,253 --> 00:56:46,212 Speaker 3: Yeah, what's the tea like in there? Pretty good? 1199 00:56:47,173 --> 00:56:50,453 Speaker 13: Yeah, she's very very advanced, mate, I know, have you 1200 00:56:50,533 --> 00:56:53,053 Speaker 13: seen Jeremy Clarkson give him a demon on how track 1201 00:56:53,133 --> 00:56:54,772 Speaker 13: to work so that. 1202 00:56:54,893 --> 00:56:57,252 Speaker 4: I'm a big fan of his lambo. His lambo. 1203 00:57:00,093 --> 00:57:02,133 Speaker 13: When he first said on that, that's how I feel 1204 00:57:02,173 --> 00:57:05,093 Speaker 13: sitting in the city day. What you learning? 1205 00:57:05,133 --> 00:57:06,013 Speaker 3: What's your top speed? 1206 00:57:07,013 --> 00:57:07,172 Speaker 5: Uh? 1207 00:57:07,293 --> 00:57:08,773 Speaker 13: About thirty seven? 1208 00:57:09,653 --> 00:57:10,533 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Ferrari. 1209 00:57:10,693 --> 00:57:12,573 Speaker 2: I was watching a great episode of Clarkson's Farm the 1210 00:57:12,653 --> 00:57:14,933 Speaker 2: other day when he had a you know, had his 1211 00:57:15,053 --> 00:57:17,653 Speaker 2: drill on the back and it was unweighted. I didn't 1212 00:57:17,653 --> 00:57:19,293 Speaker 2: realize that you have to put weight on the front 1213 00:57:19,293 --> 00:57:21,373 Speaker 2: of your tractor if you've got too much out of 1214 00:57:21,373 --> 00:57:21,773 Speaker 2: the backs. 1215 00:57:21,773 --> 00:57:23,173 Speaker 4: A lot of cool stuff and Larkson's arm. 1216 00:57:23,333 --> 00:57:29,733 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, did you get back to it? 1217 00:57:29,733 --> 00:57:30,893 Speaker 4: Get off your phone and get back to work. 1218 00:57:30,933 --> 00:57:35,693 Speaker 3: Josh man, what are you doing? Oh jeez, what's wrong 1219 00:57:35,773 --> 00:57:38,133 Speaker 3: with New Zealand today? I one hundred eighty eight. 1220 00:57:38,333 --> 00:57:40,293 Speaker 4: I was so hoping you'd bring up Clarkson's Farm because 1221 00:57:40,293 --> 00:57:43,493 Speaker 4: I'm just staring at the Lamborghini tractor that Jeremy Clarkson 1222 00:57:43,573 --> 00:57:44,373 Speaker 4: owns so cool. 1223 00:57:44,413 --> 00:57:46,093 Speaker 3: I could just see you were leading up to that, 1224 00:57:46,173 --> 00:57:48,893 Speaker 3: So I'm kind of tractor your big pan of Clarkson's Farm. 1225 00:57:49,213 --> 00:57:51,573 Speaker 3: Nine to nine two is the text number. It is 1226 00:57:51,733 --> 00:57:52,813 Speaker 3: twenty nine pus too. 1227 00:57:55,533 --> 00:57:58,933 Speaker 8: Jus Talk said the headlines with blue bubble tax seems 1228 00:57:58,973 --> 00:58:01,853 Speaker 8: it's no trouble with a blue bubble. Up to seven 1229 00:58:01,933 --> 00:58:05,133 Speaker 8: police vehicles have swarmed Auckland's cut along a halfey road 1230 00:58:05,333 --> 00:58:08,093 Speaker 8: and the people have arrested four people in one car. 1231 00:58:08,613 --> 00:58:12,453 Speaker 8: Bystanders say officers pointed guns and apprehended the driver in 1232 00:58:12,533 --> 00:58:17,213 Speaker 8: three passengers who didn't resist. The Chief Children's Commissioner says 1233 00:58:17,253 --> 00:58:21,253 Speaker 8: the government should take bold action to budge child poverty rates, 1234 00:58:21,493 --> 00:58:25,573 Speaker 8: which are virtually unchanged since twenty eighteen. A man's been 1235 00:58:25,653 --> 00:58:28,613 Speaker 8: sentenced to more than two years behind bars for a 1236 00:58:28,653 --> 00:58:31,973 Speaker 8: coward punch that killed twenty one year old Lukesmith on 1237 00:58:32,013 --> 00:58:36,173 Speaker 8: Wellington's Courtney Place in October. Five people have been injured 1238 00:58:36,173 --> 00:58:40,733 Speaker 8: too seriously, including two volunteer firefighters when a portable homes 1239 00:58:40,773 --> 00:58:43,533 Speaker 8: of Veranda collapsed as it was being erected in Hawk's 1240 00:58:43,613 --> 00:58:47,573 Speaker 8: Bay this morning, next door to t Porhue of fire Station. 1241 00:58:48,733 --> 00:58:51,413 Speaker 8: A man who died in Hastings after an assault on 1242 00:58:51,533 --> 00:58:54,213 Speaker 8: Sunday has been named as thirty three year old at 1243 00:58:54,293 --> 00:58:58,693 Speaker 8: Keith Party, Arizona Police have confirmed four people were involved 1244 00:58:58,733 --> 00:59:01,733 Speaker 8: in a midair crash between two small planes over a 1245 00:59:01,773 --> 00:59:07,013 Speaker 8: regional airport last night. It killed two people. Customers have 1246 00:59:07,173 --> 00:59:10,253 Speaker 8: less money. Sky City chief on dum grade a full 1247 00:59:10,333 --> 00:59:13,453 Speaker 8: year profit. You can read more at NZ Herald Premium. 1248 00:59:13,733 --> 00:59:15,853 Speaker 8: Back to Matt Heath and Tyler Adams. 1249 00:59:15,453 --> 00:59:17,613 Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Raylan. We're talking about having your 1250 00:59:17,653 --> 00:59:20,413 Speaker 3: phone at work. Is it ever acceptable to be scrolling 1251 00:59:20,573 --> 00:59:23,173 Speaker 3: on your phone the likes of Facebook, Instagram on the 1252 00:59:23,213 --> 00:59:25,493 Speaker 3: back of a young guy who got as much in orders. 1253 00:59:25,853 --> 00:59:27,973 Speaker 3: He was a part of a Queenstown fencing company, but 1254 00:59:28,013 --> 00:59:30,013 Speaker 3: he was on his phone too much so got the boot. 1255 00:59:30,413 --> 00:59:32,973 Speaker 2: The stixter says the traffic control boys and girls are 1256 00:59:32,973 --> 00:59:35,573 Speaker 2: the worst mobile phone bandits from my observations, I'm a 1257 00:59:35,573 --> 00:59:36,093 Speaker 2: truck driver. 1258 00:59:36,133 --> 00:59:39,253 Speaker 4: That's from Brent from Nelson. Thanks, thanks for that. 1259 00:59:39,573 --> 00:59:41,973 Speaker 3: Just on that one quickly. So, if you've done what 1260 00:59:42,013 --> 00:59:45,093 Speaker 3: you need to do with the lollipop and everybody stopped 1261 00:59:45,093 --> 00:59:47,053 Speaker 3: at that point, is it okay to just be on 1262 00:59:47,093 --> 00:59:48,653 Speaker 3: your phone for a couple of minutes because you know 1263 00:59:48,693 --> 00:59:50,773 Speaker 3: they're going to be there for at least five minutes 1264 00:59:50,853 --> 00:59:54,293 Speaker 3: before you get the web on the lollipop. 1265 00:59:54,413 --> 00:59:56,813 Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got to be on the lollipop. The lollipop's 1266 00:59:56,893 --> 01:00:02,653 Speaker 2: very important. There's no technology that can replace that job. Ritically, 1267 01:00:02,733 --> 01:00:06,453 Speaker 2: he couldn't be just replaced with a couple of lights. Johnny, 1268 01:00:06,653 --> 01:00:10,453 Speaker 2: your thoughts on dune scrolling at work? 1269 01:00:12,533 --> 01:00:16,133 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, just as a side I thought Josh probably 1270 01:00:16,173 --> 01:00:19,573 Speaker 6: had some empty drench buckets and a dead Bobby carp 1271 01:00:19,613 --> 01:00:24,013 Speaker 6: in the front of the factor was rumption in the. 1272 01:00:23,933 --> 01:00:27,133 Speaker 3: Hole, And then he quickly changed a little bit. 1273 01:00:27,213 --> 01:00:28,413 Speaker 4: No, no, surely not. 1274 01:00:32,813 --> 01:00:37,173 Speaker 6: Yeah, so I've been I've been in trouble for this work, 1275 01:00:38,493 --> 01:00:43,133 Speaker 6: funnily enough, and down I was building roads, driving a roller, 1276 01:00:43,253 --> 01:00:46,893 Speaker 6: big cannipullar roller and the rolling that really makes the road. 1277 01:00:48,973 --> 01:00:53,613 Speaker 6: So the issue for me was I had some legitimate 1278 01:00:53,653 --> 01:00:58,453 Speaker 6: reasons to arts my phone, you know, a sick child, 1279 01:01:00,493 --> 01:01:05,493 Speaker 6: stuff like that, legal stuff going on, and my boss 1280 01:01:05,653 --> 01:01:08,613 Speaker 6: asked me about it. A couple of times. You will 1281 01:01:08,653 --> 01:01:10,853 Speaker 6: keep it to an excellent modern A lot of times 1282 01:01:10,853 --> 01:01:13,213 Speaker 6: sitting on the side of the shoulder waiting for the 1283 01:01:13,213 --> 01:01:16,293 Speaker 6: greater driver to go past. There is run before I 1284 01:01:16,373 --> 01:01:19,813 Speaker 6: come along with the with the roller and white people 1285 01:01:19,933 --> 01:01:22,973 Speaker 6: used to call the steamroller. And so there'll be a 1286 01:01:23,013 --> 01:01:25,293 Speaker 6: lot of hours sitting in this unconditioned. 1287 01:01:24,653 --> 01:01:25,893 Speaker 14: Old old heap. 1288 01:01:27,733 --> 01:01:30,533 Speaker 6: Just where there's a lot of downt one and you're 1289 01:01:30,533 --> 01:01:34,973 Speaker 6: just sitting in the machine. You know, there's not much 1290 01:01:34,973 --> 01:01:36,813 Speaker 6: you can really do if you're hired to do one 1291 01:01:36,893 --> 01:01:41,333 Speaker 6: or two things. Anyway, it's not really scrolling. But there's 1292 01:01:41,333 --> 01:01:44,213 Speaker 6: a lot of people who do that with the machine operators. 1293 01:01:44,213 --> 01:01:48,533 Speaker 6: Whether there'll be digger drivers who estimator drivers, whether they 1294 01:01:48,613 --> 01:01:52,173 Speaker 6: are sitting in a truck waiting to be loaded. And 1295 01:01:54,333 --> 01:01:56,973 Speaker 6: as it happens, people do this town. They used to 1296 01:01:57,053 --> 01:01:59,453 Speaker 6: have a smoke and ask when we're picking killing it. 1297 01:01:59,573 --> 01:02:01,133 Speaker 6: We used to sneak off for a joint and things 1298 01:02:01,173 --> 01:02:03,613 Speaker 6: like that and get caught and you know, and get 1299 01:02:03,693 --> 01:02:06,533 Speaker 6: warnings and stuff like that and go back to work. 1300 01:02:06,573 --> 01:02:08,893 Speaker 6: And nowadays you have a big inquiry in health and 1301 01:02:08,933 --> 01:02:12,853 Speaker 6: safety and stuff. So I think that the worst example 1302 01:02:12,893 --> 01:02:15,653 Speaker 6: ever saw was in a laundry unloading bags onto a 1303 01:02:15,693 --> 01:02:17,933 Speaker 6: comby the commercial laundry. There was guy thatged to go 1304 01:02:17,933 --> 01:02:19,933 Speaker 6: off to the toilet and have domestics with there's missus 1305 01:02:20,173 --> 01:02:23,893 Speaker 6: by text and you know people are asking them you 1306 01:02:23,893 --> 01:02:25,133 Speaker 6: need to a doctor because. 1307 01:02:28,453 --> 01:02:29,253 Speaker 3: You can definitely tell. 1308 01:02:29,293 --> 01:02:33,013 Speaker 2: You can definitely tell when someone's having an argument with 1309 01:02:33,053 --> 01:02:35,573 Speaker 2: their partner. On the furious nature of the texting and 1310 01:02:35,573 --> 01:02:37,573 Speaker 2: the volume of the texting back and forth. 1311 01:02:40,613 --> 01:02:43,533 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you come out and you've got to carry on. 1312 01:02:44,133 --> 01:02:46,053 Speaker 6: And it might be that you know, your child's be 1313 01:02:46,173 --> 01:02:49,293 Speaker 6: standing and the special key unit for babies, you know 1314 01:02:49,453 --> 01:02:51,773 Speaker 6: when I went through there a few years ago, you know, 1315 01:02:51,773 --> 01:02:54,133 Speaker 6: and the text message is getting worse, and you know 1316 01:02:54,253 --> 01:02:55,533 Speaker 6: you've got to carry on a new job. 1317 01:02:55,653 --> 01:02:56,813 Speaker 14: So at some point you've got to. 1318 01:02:56,773 --> 01:02:59,013 Speaker 6: Take responsibility and say, look, I'm not fit to operate 1319 01:02:59,013 --> 01:03:02,893 Speaker 6: this machine today. I'm on the road, there's people going past, 1320 01:03:03,053 --> 01:03:05,973 Speaker 6: there's other people around me on foot. I've got to 1321 01:03:05,973 --> 01:03:09,213 Speaker 6: actually stay to my form and you know, I want 1322 01:03:09,213 --> 01:03:11,093 Speaker 6: to go home and to be part of a crew 1323 01:03:11,773 --> 01:03:14,213 Speaker 6: and let down that crew, like defensing to contract the 1324 01:03:14,293 --> 01:03:17,413 Speaker 6: crew get you have to work with people like in 1325 01:03:17,453 --> 01:03:20,413 Speaker 6: the BOSH if you I was going to say that 1326 01:03:20,653 --> 01:03:21,933 Speaker 6: par a. 1327 01:03:21,933 --> 01:03:25,493 Speaker 15: Few once out, you know, once is the word. 1328 01:03:25,973 --> 01:03:27,453 Speaker 14: If you decide you. 1329 01:03:27,493 --> 01:03:29,733 Speaker 6: Even't got what it takes to carry on wishing everyone 1330 01:03:29,773 --> 01:03:33,773 Speaker 6: else because your personal life, then everyone looks count up 1331 01:03:33,813 --> 01:03:37,093 Speaker 6: on you and you look at people, you know, like 1332 01:03:37,133 --> 01:03:38,693 Speaker 6: if the soldiers put down in a gun in the 1333 01:03:38,733 --> 01:03:42,493 Speaker 6: middle of the fireflight, sorry, guy's good enough. That happens. 1334 01:03:42,653 --> 01:03:45,413 Speaker 6: All the team things is that we'll dump on that person. 1335 01:03:45,893 --> 01:03:47,813 Speaker 6: But now we've got legislation that since we've got to 1336 01:03:47,853 --> 01:03:50,373 Speaker 6: give that person counseling and have a forum about it. 1337 01:03:51,413 --> 01:03:53,853 Speaker 14: I reckon, if you're on your phone and you know you. 1338 01:03:53,853 --> 01:03:56,693 Speaker 6: Shouldn't be and it's not really important and you haven't 1339 01:03:56,733 --> 01:03:58,653 Speaker 6: told your boss about it and you don't have any 1340 01:03:58,693 --> 01:03:59,893 Speaker 6: business being on your phone. 1341 01:04:00,653 --> 01:04:02,853 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean there's a hard one, isn't it. 1342 01:04:02,893 --> 01:04:05,453 Speaker 3: That If I ever been in that situation, I've certainly 1343 01:04:05,453 --> 01:04:09,413 Speaker 3: told colleagues if I am dealing with some some personal 1344 01:04:09,453 --> 01:04:12,253 Speaker 3: stuff and I might seem a little bit distracted or 1345 01:04:12,253 --> 01:04:14,053 Speaker 3: I'm not really bringing my a game and they might 1346 01:04:14,093 --> 01:04:16,013 Speaker 3: not even say anything, I'll just bring it up and say, hey, 1347 01:04:16,133 --> 01:04:18,133 Speaker 3: if I'm a little bit off today, just let you 1348 01:04:18,173 --> 01:04:19,333 Speaker 3: know I'm deal a little bit of stuff. 1349 01:04:19,493 --> 01:04:22,013 Speaker 2: But a sick cat as one thing, and just having 1350 01:04:22,013 --> 01:04:26,453 Speaker 2: a Barnie with your misses an ongoing four hundred text 1351 01:04:27,093 --> 01:04:28,733 Speaker 2: multi page argument. 1352 01:04:28,813 --> 01:04:29,413 Speaker 3: Yeah you got it. 1353 01:04:29,693 --> 01:04:30,573 Speaker 4: Yeah, they've got it. 1354 01:04:30,693 --> 01:04:33,773 Speaker 2: That's not that's not really a good usage of your time. 1355 01:04:33,893 --> 01:04:37,693 Speaker 6: Yeah, And young guys don't know how to manage relationships 1356 01:04:37,733 --> 01:04:39,573 Speaker 6: like experienced guys do because. 1357 01:04:39,373 --> 01:04:40,053 Speaker 14: None of us did. 1358 01:04:40,213 --> 01:04:44,253 Speaker 6: We find out by learning, and so we'll sabotage ourselves 1359 01:04:44,253 --> 01:04:46,973 Speaker 6: at work and over else while we make mistakes unless 1360 01:04:46,973 --> 01:04:48,933 Speaker 6: we get smart, and there are those of us that 1361 01:04:49,013 --> 01:04:52,853 Speaker 6: don't learn fast. And I can casually admit that. You know, 1362 01:04:52,933 --> 01:04:54,893 Speaker 6: when I was a young fellow, if we had a headphones, 1363 01:04:54,933 --> 01:04:56,133 Speaker 6: I probably would have been one of them. 1364 01:04:56,133 --> 01:04:56,373 Speaker 10: Two. 1365 01:04:57,573 --> 01:05:00,293 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, think so much for your call, Johnny. 1366 01:05:00,293 --> 01:05:02,933 Speaker 2: It's an interesting thing though, the idea that say you've 1367 01:05:02,973 --> 01:05:05,653 Speaker 2: got a job where you just have some downtime, you're 1368 01:05:05,733 --> 01:05:08,333 Speaker 2: just you have to be somewhere, but there isn't anything 1369 01:05:08,533 --> 01:05:08,773 Speaker 2: you do. 1370 01:05:08,893 --> 01:05:11,053 Speaker 4: Then I don't think you could really hassle someone for 1371 01:05:11,093 --> 01:05:11,853 Speaker 4: being on their phone on that. 1372 01:05:11,933 --> 01:05:13,773 Speaker 2: I mean, that's just in the old days, that would 1373 01:05:13,773 --> 01:05:16,373 Speaker 2: have been the guy on reading the newspaper, yeah, or 1374 01:05:16,533 --> 01:05:17,573 Speaker 2: having a seg or whatever. 1375 01:05:18,293 --> 01:05:20,333 Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. I mean what is the boss going to 1376 01:05:20,333 --> 01:05:22,213 Speaker 3: say that, Yell, what are you doing in your phones? Well, well, 1377 01:05:22,253 --> 01:05:23,213 Speaker 3: I've completed my desk. 1378 01:05:23,293 --> 01:05:24,853 Speaker 2: Well I've got to wait here for an hour until 1379 01:05:24,853 --> 01:05:26,413 Speaker 2: this truck gets loaded and then I'm going to drive 1380 01:05:26,413 --> 01:05:27,853 Speaker 2: it somewhere somewhere else. 1381 01:05:27,933 --> 01:05:28,533 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you. 1382 01:05:28,853 --> 01:05:30,373 Speaker 3: See that on the road crew quite a bit. Don't 1383 01:05:30,373 --> 01:05:32,653 Speaker 3: you wait one hundred eighty ten eighty and number to 1384 01:05:32,653 --> 01:05:34,733 Speaker 3: call what about though, I mean, what Johnny said is 1385 01:05:34,733 --> 01:05:36,973 Speaker 3: telling your boss that I'm dealing with some personal stuff 1386 01:05:37,093 --> 01:05:39,133 Speaker 3: I need to go home. I don't know, that's a 1387 01:05:39,173 --> 01:05:41,453 Speaker 3: hard conversation to have with your boss. Yeah, because you 1388 01:05:41,493 --> 01:05:45,573 Speaker 3: know there's I think for most people surely it's you 1389 01:05:45,733 --> 01:05:47,453 Speaker 3: leave that stuff at the door if you can, if 1390 01:05:47,453 --> 01:05:49,693 Speaker 3: you're going to come to work. Yeah, you're trying to 1391 01:05:49,773 --> 01:05:52,013 Speaker 3: leave that stuff at the door. Put the phone down. 1392 01:05:52,213 --> 01:05:54,213 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an interesting if you if you come with 1393 01:05:54,373 --> 01:05:56,373 Speaker 2: a poor emotional state because you've been having an argument 1394 01:05:56,373 --> 01:05:58,893 Speaker 2: at home, maybe are you turning up unproductive to work 1395 01:05:58,973 --> 01:06:01,573 Speaker 2: and could your boss complain about that? But back in 1396 01:06:01,613 --> 01:06:03,333 Speaker 2: the day before everyone had a phone and could get 1397 01:06:03,333 --> 01:06:06,893 Speaker 2: text messages all day from their partner. I wonder if 1398 01:06:06,893 --> 01:06:08,813 Speaker 2: that was a stress release. You ve can go that 1399 01:06:09,173 --> 01:06:12,013 Speaker 2: argument we're having at home, that that's over till five thirty. 1400 01:06:12,133 --> 01:06:13,933 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, just put that to be it until I 1401 01:06:13,973 --> 01:06:15,693 Speaker 3: go home. Absolutely bring that back. 1402 01:06:15,773 --> 01:06:17,973 Speaker 2: But nowadays people going to have a rolling dumpster fire 1403 01:06:18,013 --> 01:06:21,013 Speaker 2: of an agent throughout the day, and especially like on 1404 01:06:21,053 --> 01:06:22,693 Speaker 2: a phone where it tells you that someone's read the 1405 01:06:22,733 --> 01:06:25,253 Speaker 2: text but not responded, or it's got the writing thing 1406 01:06:25,293 --> 01:06:27,973 Speaker 2: that they're going to apply all those all those things 1407 01:06:28,013 --> 01:06:31,293 Speaker 2: that you know that they do to keep you addicted 1408 01:06:31,333 --> 01:06:35,933 Speaker 2: to your phone, then yeah, those things can go all day. Yeah, Hey, guys, 1409 01:06:35,933 --> 01:06:37,413 Speaker 2: if I had to lock my phone away at work, 1410 01:06:37,413 --> 01:06:38,853 Speaker 2: I wouldn't be able to listen to you guys. 1411 01:06:39,213 --> 01:06:42,133 Speaker 4: I use the iHeartRadio. There's a good point. 1412 01:06:42,173 --> 01:06:44,133 Speaker 3: Let's not promote that that's a bad idea. 1413 01:06:44,253 --> 01:06:45,213 Speaker 4: There's not locked phones away. 1414 01:06:45,533 --> 01:06:47,333 Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is and number 1415 01:06:47,333 --> 01:06:49,013 Speaker 3: to call nine two nine two is the text number 1416 01:06:49,333 --> 01:06:51,573 Speaker 3: beg very shortly. It is twenty to three. 1417 01:06:53,533 --> 01:06:57,173 Speaker 1: Mattith Taylor Adams with you as your afternoon rolls on 1418 01:06:57,333 --> 01:07:01,293 Speaker 1: Matt and Taylor Afternoons with the Volvo XC ninety attention 1419 01:07:01,373 --> 01:07:04,013 Speaker 1: to detail and a commitment to comfort news talks. 1420 01:07:04,013 --> 01:07:06,933 Speaker 3: They'd be good afternoon. It is seventeen to three, and 1421 01:07:06,973 --> 01:07:09,653 Speaker 3: we're talking about having your at work. Is it ever 1422 01:07:09,733 --> 01:07:12,253 Speaker 3: acceptable to be scrolling on your phone while you're on 1423 01:07:12,293 --> 01:07:14,413 Speaker 3: the clock. Quick couple of texts and we'll get back 1424 01:07:14,413 --> 01:07:17,013 Speaker 3: to your phone calls. Guys. In Europe, a phone is 1425 01:07:17,013 --> 01:07:19,693 Speaker 3: deemed part of your life and well being, and so 1426 01:07:19,813 --> 01:07:22,853 Speaker 3: reasonable use accepted for family issues. Social media is a 1427 01:07:22,853 --> 01:07:26,413 Speaker 3: different issue. Although some high risk jobs can insist on usage, 1428 01:07:26,653 --> 01:07:28,853 Speaker 3: but would have to provide a time for calls. 1429 01:07:30,213 --> 01:07:32,893 Speaker 2: And what are Europe's productivity levels like At the moment, 1430 01:07:33,413 --> 01:07:35,533 Speaker 2: it's not free time. The boss is paying for it. 1431 01:07:35,533 --> 01:07:38,973 Speaker 2: It increases the cost of products across the board. If 1432 01:07:39,013 --> 01:07:41,213 Speaker 2: someone's on their phone all the time. Hi, guys, if 1433 01:07:41,253 --> 01:07:42,773 Speaker 2: I had to lock my phone away at work, I 1434 01:07:42,773 --> 01:07:44,013 Speaker 2: wouldn't be able to listen to you gyough. I just 1435 01:07:44,053 --> 01:07:46,413 Speaker 2: read that one out before, didn't I. All right, good work, Matt, 1436 01:07:46,453 --> 01:07:47,053 Speaker 2: well done. 1437 01:07:48,213 --> 01:07:50,053 Speaker 3: And this one from sharing. Guys, you have the right 1438 01:07:50,293 --> 01:07:54,133 Speaker 3: to be on your phone at morning tea break, lunchtime 1439 01:07:54,133 --> 01:07:56,413 Speaker 3: and afternoon tea break, no other times. The boss is 1440 01:07:56,413 --> 01:07:59,653 Speaker 3: paying your wages, so he can tell you. It amuses 1441 01:07:59,693 --> 01:08:01,293 Speaker 3: me that people even have to ask. 1442 01:08:01,453 --> 01:08:04,853 Speaker 4: Well, that's to people still have morning tea break, lunch break, 1443 01:08:04,893 --> 01:08:05,973 Speaker 4: afternoon tea break. 1444 01:08:06,213 --> 01:08:07,773 Speaker 3: That's what I'm just thinking, How many breaks? 1445 01:08:08,373 --> 01:08:10,893 Speaker 4: What is the what is the disneytter breaks? 1446 01:08:11,013 --> 01:08:12,893 Speaker 3: Should be a team minutter, so that's your morning break. 1447 01:08:12,893 --> 01:08:14,253 Speaker 3: It's usually smoker. 1448 01:08:13,973 --> 01:08:16,093 Speaker 4: At ten, so you get that after two hours. 1449 01:08:16,013 --> 01:08:18,013 Speaker 3: Yes, so that you're team minuta. And then you get 1450 01:08:18,013 --> 01:08:21,372 Speaker 3: a lunch break that most people are not paid for. 1451 01:08:21,693 --> 01:08:23,693 Speaker 3: Then you get a final team minute break. 1452 01:08:23,572 --> 01:08:25,732 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, okay, I don't think I used to get 1453 01:08:25,772 --> 01:08:27,652 Speaker 2: that when I worked, and you know, I've worked on 1454 01:08:27,692 --> 01:08:28,532 Speaker 2: a number of places. 1455 01:08:28,812 --> 01:08:29,333 Speaker 4: It depends. 1456 01:08:29,412 --> 01:08:31,772 Speaker 2: Yeah, I weren't in the warehouse. We didn't have any breaks. Yeah, 1457 01:08:31,812 --> 01:08:33,692 Speaker 2: you know, but that place is out of business now 1458 01:08:33,692 --> 01:08:34,253 Speaker 2: maybe that's. 1459 01:08:35,692 --> 01:08:36,812 Speaker 3: Mark. How are you mate? 1460 01:08:37,933 --> 01:08:38,732 Speaker 20: Good afternoon, glad? 1461 01:08:38,893 --> 01:08:41,452 Speaker 3: Were you very good? Now you're a supervisor, so you're 1462 01:08:41,452 --> 01:08:42,532 Speaker 3: a great person to chet too. 1463 01:08:44,213 --> 01:08:44,612 Speaker 16: I was. 1464 01:08:44,692 --> 01:08:48,093 Speaker 20: I left all that long ago after ten years working 1465 01:08:48,133 --> 01:08:51,253 Speaker 20: for a large mid country here in New Zealand'm not 1466 01:08:51,253 --> 01:08:56,972 Speaker 20: going to name names, but I worked through the processing room, 1467 01:08:57,013 --> 01:08:57,572 Speaker 20: which is your. 1468 01:08:57,452 --> 01:09:01,333 Speaker 14: Bonning room, and we had the company. 1469 01:09:01,053 --> 01:09:04,452 Speaker 20: Of policy was my cell phones. And while you're working. 1470 01:09:04,532 --> 01:09:07,732 Speaker 20: It wasn't just because the company wanted it. It was 1471 01:09:07,812 --> 01:09:10,972 Speaker 20: more safe health and safety because they had people on lives. 1472 01:09:10,973 --> 01:09:13,772 Speaker 20: You have people on saores, your people doing everything and 1473 01:09:13,893 --> 01:09:19,173 Speaker 20: compliance as well, mainly compliance because we had one room 1474 01:09:20,213 --> 01:09:23,412 Speaker 20: at another plant. One day had a situation where they 1475 01:09:23,412 --> 01:09:25,812 Speaker 20: had a young worker on scales that would basically weigh 1476 01:09:25,812 --> 01:09:28,572 Speaker 20: the product and label everything before coase of the big freezers, 1477 01:09:29,173 --> 01:09:30,932 Speaker 20: and they were on their cell phone put it out 1478 01:09:31,093 --> 01:09:32,852 Speaker 20: and they were talking to the other person on the 1479 01:09:32,933 --> 01:09:35,972 Speaker 20: pipping machine, put their phone down but didn't realize put 1480 01:09:35,973 --> 01:09:37,772 Speaker 20: the lid on the box and away it went out 1481 01:09:37,812 --> 01:09:40,973 Speaker 20: to the palette store way to the boot tunnels that 1482 01:09:41,213 --> 01:09:44,213 Speaker 20: you take twelve hours to freeze everything down. And ye 1483 01:09:44,213 --> 01:09:46,293 Speaker 20: had about seventeen hundred cartins. They had to be put 1484 01:09:46,333 --> 01:09:49,253 Speaker 20: on hold and everything had to be opened well and 1485 01:09:49,652 --> 01:09:52,933 Speaker 20: we it wasn't as and could you imagine that went overseas. 1486 01:09:54,333 --> 01:09:57,132 Speaker 20: You know, we'd have everything sent back and very costly. 1487 01:09:57,253 --> 01:10:01,372 Speaker 20: So also it was not just compliance for security as well, 1488 01:10:01,412 --> 01:10:03,253 Speaker 20: the amount of people that would kind of work and 1489 01:10:03,293 --> 01:10:06,173 Speaker 20: sneak their phones in and record someone working and then 1490 01:10:06,213 --> 01:10:08,492 Speaker 20: do the dumb thing of putting it on the the 1491 01:10:08,572 --> 01:10:11,652 Speaker 20: work pay Facebook page, only for someone then to go 1492 01:10:11,732 --> 01:10:14,052 Speaker 20: to management and say, look what this person's been doing. 1493 01:10:14,612 --> 01:10:18,852 Speaker 20: So you know, I had I handed a few red 1494 01:10:18,853 --> 01:10:20,973 Speaker 20: warnings for the red warnings out and there was a 1495 01:10:21,013 --> 01:10:24,253 Speaker 20: couple of people that did lose your job because it's 1496 01:10:24,293 --> 01:10:29,293 Speaker 20: a serious health and safety plus compliance. You know, as 1497 01:10:29,333 --> 01:10:32,253 Speaker 20: you say that, it's just that's the way it was. 1498 01:10:33,093 --> 01:10:35,053 Speaker 20: You still you could tell every time people had their 1499 01:10:35,093 --> 01:10:38,213 Speaker 20: cell phones because you you'd see them fiddling around with 1500 01:10:38,293 --> 01:10:41,213 Speaker 20: their Rady Weir Muster bluetooth to the cell phone and 1501 01:10:42,692 --> 01:10:44,772 Speaker 20: the other subjects would be standing right behind them and 1502 01:10:45,853 --> 01:10:48,052 Speaker 20: go right, you on your on your cell phone. 1503 01:10:49,213 --> 01:10:50,213 Speaker 10: You've been told what. 1504 01:10:50,173 --> 01:10:53,733 Speaker 2: Kind of approach do you used to telling? Is it? 1505 01:10:53,772 --> 01:10:56,732 Speaker 2: Is it a friendly word? And then is it okay 1506 01:10:56,812 --> 01:10:58,372 Speaker 2: to yell at someone to get off their phone if 1507 01:10:58,372 --> 01:10:59,972 Speaker 2: they if they haven't listened to the friendly word? 1508 01:11:01,612 --> 01:11:04,253 Speaker 20: Now you just you're brought up. So we're straight up 1509 01:11:04,293 --> 01:11:06,452 Speaker 20: the office and you know you always have the menu 1510 01:11:06,532 --> 01:11:08,732 Speaker 20: and to give them the induction book and so right, 1511 01:11:08,812 --> 01:11:11,333 Speaker 20: can you read this page or are you're paying attention 1512 01:11:11,452 --> 01:11:14,253 Speaker 20: on induction and you know or you've been here like 1513 01:11:14,372 --> 01:11:17,173 Speaker 20: six years, you know better. We've had this issue before, 1514 01:11:17,293 --> 01:11:20,613 Speaker 20: so you know, you just follow the warning process. Unfortunately, 1515 01:11:20,612 --> 01:11:23,133 Speaker 20: a couple of people have lost their job. But that's 1516 01:11:23,133 --> 01:11:24,892 Speaker 20: the way it is. It's health and safety. It's not 1517 01:11:24,933 --> 01:11:28,892 Speaker 20: just productivity. If someone's not paying attention regardless, if you're 1518 01:11:30,213 --> 01:11:32,972 Speaker 20: a security officer, you mean to be watching the screens 1519 01:11:32,973 --> 01:11:35,333 Speaker 20: and you're busy scrolling and then res an incident and 1520 01:11:35,572 --> 01:11:39,333 Speaker 20: a supermarket or something, well, then you know, two minutes 1521 01:11:39,372 --> 01:11:42,412 Speaker 20: of scrolling on some Facebook page could across someone they lost. 1522 01:11:42,572 --> 01:11:47,092 Speaker 3: Yeah, so the bluetooth they're okay, that're aloud. But obviously 1523 01:11:47,093 --> 01:11:48,293 Speaker 3: you just can't touch your phone. 1524 01:11:49,293 --> 01:11:53,612 Speaker 20: No, basically everything now today's bluetooth, but we we they 1525 01:11:53,652 --> 01:11:57,213 Speaker 20: were the room head. It's own intena for the radio, 1526 01:11:57,253 --> 01:12:00,293 Speaker 20: so I picked all the radio up. But they wear 1527 01:12:00,293 --> 01:12:03,173 Speaker 20: that much protect the clothing and everything else like that, 1528 01:12:03,333 --> 01:12:05,133 Speaker 20: Like you could hardly tell even if they had a 1529 01:12:05,173 --> 01:12:07,133 Speaker 20: cell phone. It was a matter of just one of 1530 01:12:07,173 --> 01:12:08,093 Speaker 20: your stubby saying hey, of. 1531 01:12:08,133 --> 01:12:10,973 Speaker 10: Course so and so so. Yeah, and the amount. 1532 01:12:10,732 --> 01:12:12,892 Speaker 20: Of cell phones that would end up at the watchouse 1533 01:12:12,933 --> 01:12:14,812 Speaker 20: because workers have dropped them or left them in the 1534 01:12:14,853 --> 01:12:18,053 Speaker 20: toilets and yeah. So for us it was compliance and 1535 01:12:18,093 --> 01:12:18,852 Speaker 20: health and safety. 1536 01:12:18,933 --> 01:12:20,692 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a different time mark. But when I 1537 01:12:20,732 --> 01:12:23,093 Speaker 3: worked at Sea Lords and Nelson and cell phones, it 1538 01:12:23,133 --> 01:12:25,132 Speaker 3: was a different story. Back then there was no Facebook 1539 01:12:25,213 --> 01:12:26,933 Speaker 3: or anything like that. But if anyone got caught with 1540 01:12:26,973 --> 01:12:29,933 Speaker 3: a cell phone in the factory, instant dismissal. There was 1541 01:12:29,973 --> 01:12:31,253 Speaker 3: no if some butts they were gone. 1542 01:12:31,492 --> 01:12:33,572 Speaker 4: Really could did you get instant dismissal back then? 1543 01:12:33,652 --> 01:12:35,732 Speaker 3: Yep, yep, And the tuneover was quite high. You'd be 1544 01:12:35,732 --> 01:12:37,692 Speaker 3: surprised how many people would be there on day one. 1545 01:12:37,732 --> 01:12:39,452 Speaker 3: Pull out the phone and see you later. You got 1546 01:12:39,452 --> 01:12:43,293 Speaker 3: it and then have someone else ready to go. Mark, 1547 01:12:43,333 --> 01:12:44,452 Speaker 3: Thank you very much, mate. 1548 01:12:44,293 --> 01:12:46,572 Speaker 4: I'm going to respect that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1549 01:12:46,372 --> 01:12:48,133 Speaker 3: Well it was. I mean Sea lords knew it was 1550 01:12:48,173 --> 01:12:50,772 Speaker 3: high turnover because they'd get a lot of travelers that 1551 01:12:50,812 --> 01:12:52,732 Speaker 3: would come in to be on the conveyor bouse just 1552 01:12:52,772 --> 01:12:55,452 Speaker 3: putting the fillets of fish down, and they'd be there 1553 01:12:55,532 --> 01:12:57,213 Speaker 3: even without phone. Some of them will be there for 1554 01:12:57,253 --> 01:12:59,692 Speaker 3: about two hours and say nah, not for me and 1555 01:12:59,772 --> 01:13:00,253 Speaker 3: just walk out. 1556 01:13:00,372 --> 01:13:02,412 Speaker 2: But you would have been gone so many times if 1557 01:13:02,412 --> 01:13:04,013 Speaker 2: we were running those kind of rules there. Look you 1558 01:13:04,053 --> 01:13:06,452 Speaker 2: got you just tried to pick up your phone, then gone, buddy. 1559 01:13:06,452 --> 01:13:08,933 Speaker 3: If you look at that calder, I need highlighted a 1560 01:13:09,013 --> 01:13:10,092 Speaker 3: highlight important parts. 1561 01:13:10,093 --> 01:13:13,612 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, this time it was your highlighter. But if 1562 01:13:13,652 --> 01:13:14,812 Speaker 2: you pick up your phone again. 1563 01:13:14,652 --> 01:13:14,972 Speaker 4: You're gone. 1564 01:13:14,973 --> 01:13:15,452 Speaker 3: But I don't know. 1565 01:13:15,532 --> 01:13:19,012 Speaker 4: That's one morning we're bringing Sea Lord rules. 1566 01:13:19,853 --> 01:13:22,932 Speaker 3: It is eleven minutes to three. Will take a few 1567 01:13:22,933 --> 01:13:26,372 Speaker 3: more calls coming up, the issues. 1568 01:13:26,013 --> 01:13:28,492 Speaker 5: That affect you, and if it, have fun along the way. 1569 01:13:28,732 --> 01:13:32,652 Speaker 1: Matt and Taylor Afternoons with the Volvo xc N eighty Innovation, 1570 01:13:32,853 --> 01:13:33,892 Speaker 1: Style and Design. 1571 01:13:34,053 --> 01:13:35,572 Speaker 5: Have it all News Talk. 1572 01:13:37,013 --> 01:13:40,772 Speaker 3: News, Talk z B. It is eight to three. John 1573 01:13:40,853 --> 01:13:41,892 Speaker 3: how are you this afternoon? 1574 01:13:43,412 --> 01:13:44,812 Speaker 13: Oh good o, guys, your good things? 1575 01:13:45,053 --> 01:13:45,333 Speaker 9: How are you? 1576 01:13:45,372 --> 01:13:47,333 Speaker 7: Just a quick one on the cell phones we have. 1577 01:13:48,173 --> 01:13:50,532 Speaker 7: We've got a big firm and we a mix of 1578 01:13:50,532 --> 01:13:55,213 Speaker 7: office people and trades, so you've got to have rules, 1579 01:13:55,492 --> 01:13:58,133 Speaker 7: and you know, you can't use cell phones during work time. 1580 01:13:58,173 --> 01:13:58,852 Speaker 4: They're the rules. 1581 01:14:00,133 --> 01:14:02,133 Speaker 7: You can't have the office staff going oh, yeah, I've 1582 01:14:02,173 --> 01:14:04,293 Speaker 7: finished my job and now I'm on my phone, and 1583 01:14:04,333 --> 01:14:07,732 Speaker 7: then the trade's working for eight hours and then going well, hey, 1584 01:14:07,772 --> 01:14:08,853 Speaker 7: that's not for you. 1585 01:14:08,933 --> 01:14:10,133 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1586 01:14:10,173 --> 01:14:12,333 Speaker 21: And the other thing, your ours. 1587 01:14:12,492 --> 01:14:14,093 Speaker 4: All their hours are billable. 1588 01:14:13,732 --> 01:14:14,532 Speaker 21: To the customer. 1589 01:14:15,293 --> 01:14:17,692 Speaker 7: So if some guy's mucking around on his phone path 1590 01:14:17,732 --> 01:14:20,092 Speaker 7: an hour and then he wants to build a customer 1591 01:14:20,133 --> 01:14:21,812 Speaker 7: out for three hours when he only did two and 1592 01:14:21,853 --> 01:14:25,492 Speaker 7: a half hours on the job, who's going to there's 1593 01:14:25,532 --> 01:14:27,213 Speaker 7: going to be you know, there's going to be friction, 1594 01:14:27,372 --> 01:14:29,173 Speaker 7: and who's going to pay the bill? Yeah? 1595 01:14:29,452 --> 01:14:31,412 Speaker 3: Yeah, point yeah. 1596 01:14:31,772 --> 01:14:35,092 Speaker 2: Could you monitor the point where you're deducting the ass 1597 01:14:35,133 --> 01:14:37,412 Speaker 2: of work for how long someone's on the phone. I mean, 1598 01:14:37,572 --> 01:14:40,772 Speaker 2: you'll be paying someone to go through the tapes or 1599 01:14:40,772 --> 01:14:42,893 Speaker 2: watch someone. But I wonder what the legality of that is. 1600 01:14:42,933 --> 01:14:45,852 Speaker 2: If you're on your phone, are you technically still working. 1601 01:14:45,893 --> 01:14:46,772 Speaker 2: Are you still clocked in? 1602 01:14:48,173 --> 01:14:51,053 Speaker 21: Well, you can't be sitting in the van and you know, 1603 01:14:51,732 --> 01:14:55,452 Speaker 21: pretending you're working on someone's car or at someone's property 1604 01:14:55,853 --> 01:14:59,293 Speaker 21: and then build them. And if the staff don't want 1605 01:14:59,333 --> 01:15:01,372 Speaker 21: to do that, we'll just say, Okay, you're only working 1606 01:15:01,372 --> 01:15:02,932 Speaker 21: seven hours a day, so I'll pay you for seven 1607 01:15:02,973 --> 01:15:03,492 Speaker 21: hours a day. 1608 01:15:04,612 --> 01:15:06,772 Speaker 7: If you want eight hours, pay you do eight hours work. 1609 01:15:07,253 --> 01:15:07,652 Speaker 6: A story. 1610 01:15:07,772 --> 01:15:10,133 Speaker 3: I suppose flip the flip side would apply as well 1611 01:15:10,213 --> 01:15:12,612 Speaker 3: in that instance, John, that your boss cannot be sending 1612 01:15:12,692 --> 01:15:15,092 Speaker 3: your emails or text us outside of the working hours. 1613 01:15:16,333 --> 01:15:18,612 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's true, But what's trade E's and that it's 1614 01:15:18,652 --> 01:15:21,812 Speaker 7: normally just it's normally just eight till five, you know, yeah, 1615 01:15:21,853 --> 01:15:23,933 Speaker 7: and then you're coming and then next morning and you 1616 01:15:24,053 --> 01:15:26,732 Speaker 7: know what you're doing for the for the day. Head, Yeah, 1617 01:15:26,853 --> 01:15:29,532 Speaker 7: you don't really, you don't really email them at night 1618 01:15:29,612 --> 01:15:31,412 Speaker 7: and talk to them about the next day's work. 1619 01:15:33,293 --> 01:15:35,333 Speaker 4: I hate that went over to it for British Telecom. 1620 01:15:35,333 --> 01:15:37,412 Speaker 2: Actually it was a big brother of a girlfriend of 1621 01:15:37,452 --> 01:15:39,492 Speaker 2: mine and on this first day he got a job 1622 01:15:39,492 --> 01:15:42,572 Speaker 2: in British Telecom and he was driving the van and 1623 01:15:42,612 --> 01:15:44,293 Speaker 2: they were going to a site and the guy goes, 1624 01:15:44,372 --> 01:15:46,692 Speaker 2: were you gone? And he goes, oh, we're going to thing, 1625 01:15:46,812 --> 01:15:48,812 Speaker 2: isn't it? And then I had got it a pull 1626 01:15:48,853 --> 01:15:51,973 Speaker 2: over and then another van pulled up and then the 1627 01:15:52,053 --> 01:15:54,572 Speaker 2: other plan had music in it and the thing had 1628 01:15:54,973 --> 01:15:58,293 Speaker 2: a rotssree chicken and he said that we just ring 1629 01:15:58,333 --> 01:15:59,772 Speaker 2: it and say that we didn't get to it because 1630 01:15:59,812 --> 01:16:02,093 Speaker 2: of traffic. And he said, there's basically all at the day. 1631 01:16:02,173 --> 01:16:04,412 Speaker 2: There's different different food pull up to the vans. It 1632 01:16:04,492 --> 01:16:05,612 Speaker 2: was a whole social scene going on. 1633 01:16:05,692 --> 01:16:07,572 Speaker 3: It sounds like a great job, but I worry for 1634 01:16:07,612 --> 01:16:11,972 Speaker 3: BT John. Thank you very much mate, good to chat. 1635 01:16:13,053 --> 01:16:14,892 Speaker 3: Should we squeeze Indy and have we got time? 1636 01:16:15,133 --> 01:16:18,572 Speaker 4: Yeah, we've got time for Andy. Get Andy? Just a second? Andy? 1637 01:16:18,612 --> 01:16:22,772 Speaker 4: One second? Andy? There we go Andy. 1638 01:16:22,933 --> 01:16:23,772 Speaker 3: Yeah, good gods. 1639 01:16:23,853 --> 01:16:25,213 Speaker 4: What about smart watches you ask? 1640 01:16:25,812 --> 01:16:29,852 Speaker 22: I'm just listening because I've got an eye watch which 1641 01:16:29,933 --> 01:16:32,852 Speaker 22: is actually done as a phone. So sometimes quite often 1642 01:16:32,893 --> 01:16:35,812 Speaker 22: I forget my phone, but I can receive I can 1643 01:16:35,893 --> 01:16:40,612 Speaker 22: talk on my watch. I can receive messages text. So 1644 01:16:40,893 --> 01:16:43,372 Speaker 22: how how do where you lot of our phones? How 1645 01:16:43,372 --> 01:16:44,972 Speaker 22: do people handle the watch? 1646 01:16:45,293 --> 01:16:46,892 Speaker 3: It's good for great point. 1647 01:16:47,333 --> 01:16:50,333 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean you're still not allowed to do it, 1648 01:16:50,412 --> 01:16:52,812 Speaker 2: I guess but it'll be harder to detect. I mean, 1649 01:16:52,973 --> 01:16:54,812 Speaker 2: if you're talking to watch, you're holding it up, or 1650 01:16:54,893 --> 01:16:57,213 Speaker 2: you're spending an undue amount of time scrolling and trying 1651 01:16:57,213 --> 01:16:59,532 Speaker 2: to write with the tiny little buttons on the watch. 1652 01:16:59,612 --> 01:17:00,492 Speaker 10: Yeah, well you can. 1653 01:17:00,652 --> 01:17:03,013 Speaker 22: You can have headphones on and you can communicate that. 1654 01:17:03,133 --> 01:17:06,052 Speaker 22: But I mean, first I'm either I forgot I even 1655 01:17:06,372 --> 01:17:08,772 Speaker 22: had it hooked up as a phone on talking along 1656 01:17:08,853 --> 01:17:12,932 Speaker 22: this little voice is talking from Yeah, I'm thinking where 1657 01:17:13,013 --> 01:17:13,372 Speaker 22: the hell. 1658 01:17:14,732 --> 01:17:16,293 Speaker 3: I think you get a little bit of leeway if 1659 01:17:16,293 --> 01:17:18,372 Speaker 3: you're looking like Agent ninety nine from Get Smart, because 1660 01:17:18,372 --> 01:17:20,732 Speaker 3: it kind of looks cool. But yeah, I mean it's 1661 01:17:20,732 --> 01:17:22,852 Speaker 3: a fair point. I think the boss would be, you know, 1662 01:17:23,013 --> 01:17:26,092 Speaker 3: in their in their right to say yeah, if your IP. 1663 01:17:26,053 --> 01:17:28,452 Speaker 2: Yeah, whatever high tech are pressing around you're doing, I 1664 01:17:28,492 --> 01:17:30,333 Speaker 2: think it's probably still considered pissing around. 1665 01:17:30,452 --> 01:17:32,732 Speaker 4: Hey, thanks so much for you call, Andy, appreciate it. 1666 01:17:33,372 --> 01:17:37,013 Speaker 3: A couple of techs to wrap this up, guys, just 1667 01:17:37,053 --> 01:17:39,532 Speaker 3: block the missus till the argument is cooled down. No 1668 01:17:39,772 --> 01:17:41,052 Speaker 3: reason to be on your phone. 1669 01:17:41,173 --> 01:17:44,012 Speaker 2: M Yeah, we're talking about how much time is lost 1670 01:17:44,093 --> 01:17:48,293 Speaker 2: with arguments with your partner at work. You definitely know 1671 01:17:48,732 --> 01:17:51,653 Speaker 2: as someone that is going through that, the furious texting. 1672 01:17:51,293 --> 01:17:51,892 Speaker 4: Back and forth. 1673 01:17:51,893 --> 01:17:54,253 Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'm a teacher and staff rooms always full of 1674 01:17:54,333 --> 01:17:57,852 Speaker 2: teachers communicating in their breaks, but now they're very quiet 1675 01:17:57,853 --> 01:17:59,213 Speaker 2: with everyone on their phones. That's what I was talking 1676 01:17:59,213 --> 01:18:00,972 Speaker 2: about before. You see that on work sites as well, 1677 01:18:01,013 --> 01:18:04,972 Speaker 2: and breaks even just sits on their phone. It's really 1678 01:18:05,053 --> 01:18:07,973 Speaker 2: removing the socialization from work. So you know, being on 1679 01:18:08,013 --> 01:18:11,412 Speaker 2: your phone not just a problem during worktime, it's it's 1680 01:18:12,013 --> 01:18:14,173 Speaker 2: a problem in terms of the bonds that have been 1681 01:18:14,213 --> 01:18:15,493 Speaker 2: made at work during. 1682 01:18:15,372 --> 01:18:16,293 Speaker 4: Break time as well. 1683 01:18:16,333 --> 01:18:18,492 Speaker 3: Absolutely, get rid of them, yeah, get rid of them 1684 01:18:18,532 --> 01:18:20,532 Speaker 3: all phones. Yeah, yeah, all right. 1685 01:18:20,772 --> 01:18:24,293 Speaker 2: Unless you want to ring one hundred eighty two. Oh 1686 01:18:24,372 --> 01:18:28,213 Speaker 2: if you're listening to iHeart, Yeah, that's okay. Right, good discussion, 1687 01:18:28,253 --> 01:18:29,253 Speaker 2: Thank you very much. 1688 01:18:29,532 --> 01:18:33,293 Speaker 3: Coming up very shortly. Are we a bunch of complainers? 1689 01:18:33,412 --> 01:18:36,253 Speaker 3: We'll tell you more. Coming up new sport and weather. 1690 01:18:36,293 --> 01:18:46,133 Speaker 3: We'll see you on the other side. 1691 01:18:47,412 --> 01:18:50,572 Speaker 1: Talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heath and Taylor 1692 01:18:50,612 --> 01:18:54,572 Speaker 1: Adams Afternoons with the Volvo XC ninety News Talks'd be. 1693 01:18:56,013 --> 01:18:59,213 Speaker 3: Good afternoon, j welcome back into the show. Seven past three. 1694 01:18:59,213 --> 01:19:02,532 Speaker 3: I hope you're having a great Thursday afternoon, and thank 1695 01:19:02,532 --> 01:19:05,732 Speaker 3: you very much for the last couple of hours of chat. 1696 01:19:05,893 --> 01:19:07,652 Speaker 3: Very interesting, but we're going to shake it up over 1697 01:19:07,772 --> 01:19:09,612 Speaker 3: the next week. We want to have a chat about 1698 01:19:09,933 --> 01:19:13,093 Speaker 3: Brad pet He is in the country somewhere. 1699 01:19:13,492 --> 01:19:15,812 Speaker 2: Is he because everyone's very excited that he's here, And 1700 01:19:15,853 --> 01:19:19,532 Speaker 2: I was just thinking, is he the greatest actor or 1701 01:19:19,572 --> 01:19:23,372 Speaker 2: the biggest superstar in movies of the last fifty years? 1702 01:19:24,013 --> 01:19:24,933 Speaker 4: That's my question for you. 1703 01:19:25,053 --> 01:19:26,932 Speaker 3: He's a very fine actor, but I don't know if 1704 01:19:26,933 --> 01:19:30,093 Speaker 3: i'd call him the greatest would you think I'd say 1705 01:19:30,093 --> 01:19:31,492 Speaker 3: some of his best work would have been in the 1706 01:19:31,572 --> 01:19:32,253 Speaker 3: last ten years. 1707 01:19:32,572 --> 01:19:36,253 Speaker 2: What about Fight Club was from nineteen ninety nine. That's 1708 01:19:36,253 --> 01:19:40,253 Speaker 2: a great movie, seven greatat movie, terrifying, who's done more 1709 01:19:40,253 --> 01:19:43,012 Speaker 2: than he has? Bullet Train was quite good and glorious 1710 01:19:43,053 --> 01:19:47,293 Speaker 2: Bear Stards that was fantastic movie. Once upon a Time 1711 01:19:47,293 --> 01:19:49,732 Speaker 2: in Hollywood with Leo. I mean, he's got to be 1712 01:19:49,812 --> 01:19:53,652 Speaker 2: up there as one of the money Ball How good 1713 01:19:53,732 --> 01:19:54,293 Speaker 2: was that movie? 1714 01:19:54,333 --> 01:19:57,333 Speaker 3: Money Ball was fantastic. Yeah, in this movie that he's 1715 01:19:57,372 --> 01:20:00,892 Speaker 3: in New Zealand to shoot sounds amazing as well. But 1716 01:20:00,973 --> 01:20:03,612 Speaker 3: O eight hundred and eighty ten eighty, is Brad Pert 1717 01:20:03,612 --> 01:20:06,452 Speaker 3: the greatest actor of the last fifty years of the 1718 01:20:06,492 --> 01:20:08,892 Speaker 3: last generation. I mean, it's a big goal he's been. 1719 01:20:09,093 --> 01:20:11,053 Speaker 4: Who's betters Crow? 1720 01:20:12,372 --> 01:20:14,772 Speaker 3: I put Russ right there at the top. 1721 01:20:14,772 --> 01:20:18,333 Speaker 2: Or our Russ good Kiwi lad who abandoned us for 1722 01:20:18,372 --> 01:20:21,333 Speaker 2: Australia and thinks of Australia as his home. But it'd 1723 01:20:21,372 --> 01:20:24,213 Speaker 2: be hard, hard pressed to get a better performance than 1724 01:20:24,253 --> 01:20:29,772 Speaker 2: Russell Crowe and Gladiator. Yeah, fantastic performance. Barely in the 1725 01:20:29,812 --> 01:20:32,093 Speaker 2: history of movies has a person been at the right 1726 01:20:33,133 --> 01:20:35,452 Speaker 2: time for the right movie, you know, exactly the right 1727 01:20:35,452 --> 01:20:37,612 Speaker 2: person for the right movie. Might you might say Jack 1728 01:20:37,652 --> 01:20:41,533 Speaker 2: Black for School of Rock and Russell Crow for Gladiator. 1729 01:20:41,893 --> 01:20:46,452 Speaker 3: Beautiful mind again, phenomenal WAC team. He's probably dropped off 1730 01:20:46,452 --> 01:20:48,293 Speaker 3: a little bit in the past five years. I'm just 1731 01:20:48,333 --> 01:20:48,932 Speaker 3: trying to think. 1732 01:20:48,812 --> 01:20:50,452 Speaker 4: Of the Pope. Sexist was a good movie? 1733 01:20:50,452 --> 01:20:51,892 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it was. Yeah that we was very good 1734 01:20:51,893 --> 01:20:53,932 Speaker 3: in that. That was better than it had any right 1735 01:20:53,973 --> 01:20:55,572 Speaker 3: to be. Actually, when I started watching that, I thought 1736 01:20:55,572 --> 01:20:56,692 Speaker 3: this was going to be a dud. But that was 1737 01:20:56,732 --> 01:20:57,372 Speaker 3: a good movie. 1738 01:20:58,572 --> 01:21:00,452 Speaker 2: Oceans eleven, all the movies he did, you know, all 1739 01:21:00,452 --> 01:21:03,133 Speaker 2: the stuff he did around Oceans eleven. So who is 1740 01:21:03,253 --> 01:21:06,972 Speaker 2: who is the greatest actor of our age? And by 1741 01:21:07,133 --> 01:21:09,892 Speaker 2: our age? I think you know the round you'd accept, 1742 01:21:10,053 --> 01:21:14,692 Speaker 2: you'd accept, you know, George Clooney, that kind of era, Ye, 1743 01:21:14,933 --> 01:21:17,172 Speaker 2: Tom Hanks, Tom. 1744 01:21:17,013 --> 01:21:19,133 Speaker 4: Cruise, I'm that's a good point. 1745 01:21:19,213 --> 01:21:21,013 Speaker 3: Care Cruise, Yeah. 1746 01:21:20,973 --> 01:21:24,372 Speaker 4: Is Pitt is pet Pitt better than Cruise? 1747 01:21:24,812 --> 01:21:25,812 Speaker 3: Hard to all cruise. 1748 01:21:26,853 --> 01:21:28,093 Speaker 4: Cruise might be the greatest ever. 1749 01:21:28,213 --> 01:21:29,772 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to I'm gonna have to have a 1750 01:21:29,812 --> 01:21:32,053 Speaker 3: look at their filmography on both of those actors, and 1751 01:21:32,093 --> 01:21:33,333 Speaker 3: I'll come back to you on that one. But there 1752 01:21:33,412 --> 01:21:36,412 Speaker 3: is some big calls coming through on nine two ninety two. 1753 01:21:36,973 --> 01:21:38,732 Speaker 3: But we'd love to hear from your eight one hundred 1754 01:21:38,772 --> 01:21:43,372 Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty who is the greatest actor of 1755 01:21:43,412 --> 01:21:43,852 Speaker 3: our time? 1756 01:21:43,933 --> 01:21:47,652 Speaker 4: Harrison Ford has just entered the conversation too old. No, 1757 01:21:48,612 --> 01:21:50,612 Speaker 4: that's the era. He's just in a movie that's in 1758 01:21:50,612 --> 01:21:51,692 Speaker 4: the movie theater at the moment. 1759 01:21:51,732 --> 01:21:54,533 Speaker 2: He may be eighty one, but he's in that rubbish 1760 01:21:54,572 --> 01:21:55,572 Speaker 2: Captain in America movie. 1761 01:21:56,213 --> 01:21:57,173 Speaker 3: Said it rubbish movie. 1762 01:21:57,173 --> 01:21:59,093 Speaker 4: But Harrison he's the best part of it. 1763 01:21:59,133 --> 01:22:00,492 Speaker 3: Okay, well, okay, we'll give him that. 1764 01:22:01,412 --> 01:22:04,812 Speaker 2: You know, greatest person actor coming along for a particular role. 1765 01:22:04,933 --> 01:22:08,892 Speaker 2: You've got to say Indiana Jones and Harrison Ford, it's 1766 01:22:08,933 --> 01:22:10,652 Speaker 2: like he was born for that role, and of course 1767 01:22:10,812 --> 01:22:11,333 Speaker 2: Han solo. 1768 01:22:11,412 --> 01:22:12,852 Speaker 3: But then again, you know, you may as well say 1769 01:22:12,853 --> 01:22:15,572 Speaker 3: clinice Wood like someone here has done via text. Again, 1770 01:22:15,853 --> 01:22:17,412 Speaker 3: great actor, but he's super old. 1771 01:22:17,532 --> 01:22:19,372 Speaker 4: We're still making movies Clint east But I just watched 1772 01:22:19,372 --> 01:22:22,452 Speaker 4: a fantastic Clint Eastwood movie called Dura Number two the 1773 01:22:22,492 --> 01:22:24,893 Speaker 4: other day that he directed. Yeah, he's in his nineties, 1774 01:22:25,093 --> 01:22:26,092 Speaker 4: he's still going strong. 1775 01:22:26,253 --> 01:22:29,052 Speaker 3: What was that one where he played an aging racist 1776 01:22:29,093 --> 01:22:31,053 Speaker 3: in America? But it was such a good movie and 1777 01:22:31,093 --> 01:22:32,093 Speaker 3: he had that beautiful car. 1778 01:22:32,293 --> 01:22:34,133 Speaker 4: Oh, that's a fantastic movie. What is it called? 1779 01:22:34,532 --> 01:22:36,813 Speaker 3: It's Gonna Kill Me? That is one of my favorite. 1780 01:22:36,452 --> 01:22:38,372 Speaker 4: Movies that begins with the tea. It begins with te. 1781 01:22:39,133 --> 01:22:40,652 Speaker 3: Yep, we're going to google that one. But love to 1782 01:22:40,652 --> 01:22:42,852 Speaker 3: hear from you on this one. One hundred and eighteen 1783 01:22:42,893 --> 01:22:45,652 Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call. It is ten 1784 01:22:45,772 --> 01:22:49,652 Speaker 3: past three. Begfory. Shortly New Talk said, be there are 1785 01:22:49,692 --> 01:22:52,053 Speaker 3: some great teas coming through with us. The question it 1786 01:22:52,173 --> 01:22:55,053 Speaker 3: was the or is Brad Pitt the greatest actor of 1787 01:22:55,093 --> 01:22:57,453 Speaker 3: our generation? Yeah, and it's controversial. 1788 01:22:57,812 --> 01:23:00,412 Speaker 2: Yeah, Look I'm I'm I look, I posted, I put 1789 01:23:00,412 --> 01:23:02,933 Speaker 2: it out there, but now I'm saying Tom Cruise. 1790 01:23:02,973 --> 01:23:06,852 Speaker 4: Oh, you just just the sheer amount of movies. That movie. 1791 01:23:06,893 --> 01:23:09,812 Speaker 2: We're talking about that Clint east movie, because you know, 1792 01:23:09,812 --> 01:23:11,652 Speaker 2: you're you're trying to age bracket this. But I think 1793 01:23:11,692 --> 01:23:14,133 Speaker 2: any actor that's still alive, an actor will will accept 1794 01:23:14,412 --> 01:23:18,213 Speaker 2: because and you know, Grand Tarino, Clint Eastward there was 1795 01:23:18,213 --> 01:23:20,932 Speaker 2: only a few years ago and still directing. As I 1796 01:23:21,053 --> 01:23:25,053 Speaker 2: was saying, Mike, who's the greatest actor of. 1797 01:23:25,013 --> 01:23:28,213 Speaker 5: This era, it's John Travolta. 1798 01:23:28,532 --> 01:23:34,253 Speaker 2: Interesting, you got Grease in there and then the big 1799 01:23:34,293 --> 01:23:35,333 Speaker 2: comeback with pulp fiction. 1800 01:23:37,333 --> 01:23:37,572 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1801 01:23:37,612 --> 01:23:41,293 Speaker 7: Yeah, and there's there's several really good ones for sure. 1802 01:23:41,933 --> 01:23:44,093 Speaker 3: Face Off I quite enjoyed. Did you watch Face Off 1803 01:23:44,093 --> 01:23:46,732 Speaker 3: with Travolta and Nicholas Cage the John Word movie? 1804 01:23:47,652 --> 01:23:47,932 Speaker 14: Yeah? 1805 01:23:48,093 --> 01:23:49,812 Speaker 7: I think so some years ago, mind you. 1806 01:23:50,253 --> 01:23:52,772 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's there's some issues with his face at the moment. 1807 01:23:52,933 --> 01:23:54,932 Speaker 4: You've got to say he's had a bit of work done. 1808 01:23:54,973 --> 01:23:56,572 Speaker 4: And that can happen to the actors that were big 1809 01:23:56,612 --> 01:23:58,932 Speaker 4: in the seventies. They get a bit of work done 1810 01:23:58,933 --> 01:24:00,412 Speaker 4: in the eighties and it starts to go off the 1811 01:24:00,412 --> 01:24:04,613 Speaker 4: boil a bit. But that travolt Yeah, Travolta. 1812 01:24:04,732 --> 01:24:05,732 Speaker 14: Yeah. 1813 01:24:07,213 --> 01:24:09,013 Speaker 21: On the on the plus made he can fly a 1814 01:24:09,053 --> 01:24:09,773 Speaker 21: big aeroplane. 1815 01:24:09,933 --> 01:24:10,732 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. 1816 01:24:10,812 --> 01:24:11,772 Speaker 4: Have you seen his house? 1817 01:24:12,013 --> 01:24:14,133 Speaker 2: So he's got a house that's on a runway, so 1818 01:24:14,173 --> 01:24:18,293 Speaker 2: he lands seven four seven and then then pulls it 1819 01:24:18,372 --> 01:24:21,013 Speaker 2: up and parks it in his own driveway because he 1820 01:24:21,053 --> 01:24:23,772 Speaker 2: lives at He's got an airport for a home. 1821 01:24:23,853 --> 01:24:24,492 Speaker 4: It's incredible. 1822 01:24:24,572 --> 01:24:25,893 Speaker 3: He deserves it. 1823 01:24:25,333 --> 01:24:28,692 Speaker 2: He's made a bit of money, obviously, you can run 1824 01:24:28,732 --> 01:24:29,293 Speaker 2: that a bit of. 1825 01:24:29,333 --> 01:24:31,972 Speaker 3: A bit of a sleeper hat for him. Swordfish, which 1826 01:24:32,412 --> 01:24:34,173 Speaker 3: it didn't get rave reviews, but I thought it was 1827 01:24:34,173 --> 01:24:35,012 Speaker 3: a great movie. 1828 01:24:35,652 --> 01:24:37,452 Speaker 14: That's the one I was thinking of, actually, and I 1829 01:24:37,452 --> 01:24:38,852 Speaker 14: saw that quite it was great. 1830 01:24:39,013 --> 01:24:40,572 Speaker 3: It was a huge jackman he was in it. He 1831 01:24:40,652 --> 01:24:41,612 Speaker 3: was the young hacker guy. 1832 01:24:43,013 --> 01:24:44,173 Speaker 12: I'm not sure I couldn't tell you. 1833 01:24:44,333 --> 01:24:49,772 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, John Travolter. One vote for Travolta. Should 1834 01:24:49,772 --> 01:24:52,253 Speaker 3: we get to some of these ticks now? Actually we'll 1835 01:24:52,293 --> 01:24:54,692 Speaker 3: go to for some more phone calls. Pat, how are you. 1836 01:24:56,213 --> 01:24:56,452 Speaker 23: Good? 1837 01:24:56,452 --> 01:24:56,732 Speaker 9: Things? 1838 01:24:56,772 --> 01:24:56,973 Speaker 13: Are you? 1839 01:24:57,053 --> 01:24:57,492 Speaker 10: Fellas? 1840 01:24:57,732 --> 01:24:58,852 Speaker 3: Very good? Who do you reckon? 1841 01:25:00,133 --> 01:25:01,372 Speaker 16: Oh? 1842 01:25:01,572 --> 01:25:03,293 Speaker 24: I'm not going to have a huge amount of people 1843 01:25:03,293 --> 01:25:05,253 Speaker 24: that agree with me. And I'm not saying he's the 1844 01:25:05,333 --> 01:25:07,932 Speaker 24: greatest actor of all time, but what I'm saying he 1845 01:25:07,973 --> 01:25:12,813 Speaker 24: did the performance. It was Brian Preston and Breaking. 1846 01:25:12,492 --> 01:25:13,972 Speaker 4: Bad as boal to White. 1847 01:25:14,133 --> 01:25:19,412 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean that's our other performance, you know, 1848 01:25:19,412 --> 01:25:20,892 Speaker 2: one of the greatest TV shows of all time. 1849 01:25:20,933 --> 01:25:22,052 Speaker 4: But yeah, he's brilliant. 1850 01:25:22,333 --> 01:25:27,532 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think a lot of people would agree with you. 1851 01:25:27,532 --> 01:25:30,293 Speaker 3: Can you remember it trended a couple of years ago, 1852 01:25:30,293 --> 01:25:33,372 Speaker 3: but Anthony Hopkins wrote him a less wanted it to 1853 01:25:33,412 --> 01:25:35,452 Speaker 3: stay hit him, but it got leaked. But I think 1854 01:25:35,492 --> 01:25:37,452 Speaker 3: he said pretty much along the same lines, right, that 1855 01:25:37,452 --> 01:25:40,732 Speaker 3: that was the best acting performance he's ever seen in 1856 01:25:40,732 --> 01:25:41,213 Speaker 3: his career. 1857 01:25:42,452 --> 01:25:43,213 Speaker 24: I did see that. 1858 01:25:44,173 --> 01:25:45,692 Speaker 10: I read that little letter. It was quite good. 1859 01:25:46,013 --> 01:25:48,892 Speaker 3: Yeah, Pat, thank you very much. I mean, Anthony Hopkins 1860 01:25:48,973 --> 01:25:49,412 Speaker 3: is another one. 1861 01:25:49,452 --> 01:25:51,852 Speaker 2: But Brian Cranston's been awesome for a long time. He 1862 01:25:52,013 --> 01:25:54,173 Speaker 2: appears in Seinfeld. He was one of the characters in 1863 01:25:54,213 --> 01:25:57,293 Speaker 2: Side Found, a reoccurring character, and of course he was amazing. 1864 01:25:57,532 --> 01:25:58,852 Speaker 4: And Malcolm in the Middle as well. 1865 01:25:58,973 --> 01:26:01,452 Speaker 2: Yeah, that episode on speed Walking and Malcolm the Middle 1866 01:26:01,532 --> 01:26:03,732 Speaker 2: is one of the funniest things you're ever likely to see. 1867 01:26:03,812 --> 01:26:06,972 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great one. Craig, how are you. 1868 01:26:08,532 --> 01:26:08,732 Speaker 16: Here? 1869 01:26:08,853 --> 01:26:10,053 Speaker 15: How are you there? 1870 01:26:10,093 --> 01:26:11,372 Speaker 3: Craig? Good mate? How are you? 1871 01:26:12,213 --> 01:26:12,412 Speaker 13: Yeah? 1872 01:26:12,492 --> 01:26:12,652 Speaker 1: Good? 1873 01:26:13,093 --> 01:26:17,012 Speaker 25: Before I mentioned mine, I'm going to throw your curveboard yep. Okay, 1874 01:26:17,173 --> 01:26:18,293 Speaker 25: So Robin. 1875 01:26:17,973 --> 01:26:20,492 Speaker 4: Williams, yes, oh yeah, I mean. 1876 01:26:21,412 --> 01:26:24,412 Speaker 25: To see him from his Mork and Mindy days, give 1877 01:26:24,452 --> 01:26:28,173 Speaker 25: the Eight Clouds actor he turned out to be. And 1878 01:26:28,333 --> 01:26:31,013 Speaker 25: what a loss to the acting world and you know, 1879 01:26:31,412 --> 01:26:32,612 Speaker 25: the world in general. 1880 01:26:33,333 --> 01:26:36,452 Speaker 3: Definitely. I watched Goodwill Hunting a couple of weeks back 1881 01:26:36,492 --> 01:26:38,652 Speaker 3: and forgot how good of a movie that is and 1882 01:26:38,692 --> 01:26:41,333 Speaker 3: how leming good he isn't it? 1883 01:26:42,253 --> 01:26:43,492 Speaker 25: So mine is Tom Hanks? 1884 01:26:43,893 --> 01:26:47,612 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, so Tom Hanks, Tom Hanks, what have 1885 01:26:47,652 --> 01:26:49,413 Speaker 4: we got here? You've got so many saving. 1886 01:26:49,213 --> 01:26:53,772 Speaker 2: Private Ryan forst Forest Big, he was fantastic and big 1887 01:26:54,412 --> 01:26:55,132 Speaker 2: he keeps. 1888 01:26:54,933 --> 01:27:00,812 Speaker 25: Going movie Forrest Gum, hands down, castaway. And you talk 1889 01:27:00,893 --> 01:27:02,892 Speaker 25: about the right actor for the right role at the 1890 01:27:02,933 --> 01:27:05,133 Speaker 25: right time, I arrest by case your honor. 1891 01:27:06,853 --> 01:27:10,293 Speaker 2: So okay, if we're go Hanks, let's make a bracket 1892 01:27:10,293 --> 01:27:10,572 Speaker 2: out of this. 1893 01:27:11,093 --> 01:27:15,652 Speaker 4: Hanks v. Cruise, Tom Cruise, the Tom Hanks who does it. 1894 01:27:15,692 --> 01:27:15,933 Speaker 20: For you. 1895 01:27:17,532 --> 01:27:21,253 Speaker 25: As one's one's you know, you look at Tom Cruise 1896 01:27:21,293 --> 01:27:24,772 Speaker 25: with us. He does all his own stunts. I mean, god, 1897 01:27:24,812 --> 01:27:29,093 Speaker 25: who the hell does that? And Tom Hanks is just 1898 01:27:29,173 --> 01:27:33,293 Speaker 25: a pure a class actor. They both I can't separate them. 1899 01:27:33,652 --> 01:27:36,093 Speaker 3: Well, I'm going to go Hanks. I think purely just 1900 01:27:36,173 --> 01:27:40,452 Speaker 3: by the range of of his roles, could you say, 1901 01:27:40,492 --> 01:27:42,532 Speaker 3: I mean Tom Cruise is a phenomenal actor, no doubt 1902 01:27:42,532 --> 01:27:44,452 Speaker 3: about it. But in terms of his range, he's very 1903 01:27:44,452 --> 01:27:47,293 Speaker 3: good at the action. He he's very good at the 1904 01:27:47,372 --> 01:27:48,012 Speaker 3: leading man. 1905 01:27:48,253 --> 01:27:50,572 Speaker 2: But yeah, but he's done all kinds of things. He's 1906 01:27:50,572 --> 01:27:54,732 Speaker 2: done Jerry McGuire, He's done rain Man. He's got a 1907 01:27:54,812 --> 01:27:57,652 Speaker 2: huge range. He's Maverick. He came back with Top Gun 1908 01:27:57,692 --> 01:28:01,452 Speaker 2: and then Top Gun Maverick and yeah, missing impossible movies. 1909 01:28:01,893 --> 01:28:05,412 Speaker 2: Tom Cruise plus, in a running race, he would absolutely 1910 01:28:05,532 --> 01:28:06,452 Speaker 2: cream Tom. 1911 01:28:06,293 --> 01:28:08,093 Speaker 3: Hanks, no doubt about that. He's all. 1912 01:28:08,812 --> 01:28:12,293 Speaker 2: I watched this, this short documentary on Tom Cruise's running 1913 01:28:12,293 --> 01:28:14,133 Speaker 2: style and how much work he's put into it. He 1914 01:28:14,173 --> 01:28:15,852 Speaker 2: always has a run in every movie he's got. And 1915 01:28:15,893 --> 01:28:18,692 Speaker 2: he's got those really pointed hands and hands laid hands. 1916 01:28:18,692 --> 01:28:20,972 Speaker 2: You go really fast and they reckon. He can get 1917 01:28:21,013 --> 01:28:23,212 Speaker 2: up to he can run. He can run a twelve 1918 01:28:23,452 --> 01:28:27,013 Speaker 2: twelve second one hundred meters in jeans. 1919 01:28:27,333 --> 01:28:29,772 Speaker 3: He's streamlined. I'll give them that. Oh, eight hundred eighty 1920 01:28:29,853 --> 01:28:32,492 Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call a quick couple 1921 01:28:32,532 --> 01:28:33,692 Speaker 3: of ticks to the break. 1922 01:28:33,933 --> 01:28:36,772 Speaker 2: Morgan Freeman Shure Shank Redemption I'm a god short Shank 1923 01:28:36,772 --> 01:28:38,253 Speaker 2: Redemptions got to be one of the greatest movies of 1924 01:28:38,293 --> 01:28:38,652 Speaker 2: all time. 1925 01:28:38,692 --> 01:28:41,333 Speaker 4: And Morgan Freeman is fantastic. 1926 01:28:40,973 --> 01:28:44,852 Speaker 2: In this Get Busy living' oh, Get Busy, beautiful voice 1927 01:28:44,893 --> 01:28:45,852 Speaker 2: and drive Him Misstasy. 1928 01:28:45,853 --> 01:28:48,492 Speaker 3: I haven't seen that yep. Have you seen that movie? 1929 01:28:48,572 --> 01:28:49,333 Speaker 3: Drive Him Mistasy? 1930 01:28:49,492 --> 01:28:50,612 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've seen that movie right. 1931 01:28:51,973 --> 01:28:54,732 Speaker 2: Currently a company that we advertise on news tooks, he'd 1932 01:28:54,812 --> 01:28:58,692 Speaker 2: be Jeremy Clarkson. Fantastic, fantastic. I don't know if you'd 1933 01:28:58,692 --> 01:29:01,213 Speaker 2: call him one of the greatest actors, but Clarkson Farmers 1934 01:29:01,213 --> 01:29:02,412 Speaker 2: currently the greatest television show. 1935 01:29:03,372 --> 01:29:06,812 Speaker 3: Yeah, keep those teks coming through A nine to nine 1936 01:29:06,933 --> 01:29:07,973 Speaker 3: two Brad. 1937 01:29:07,732 --> 01:29:10,013 Speaker 4: Pats in the But is he the greatest actor of 1938 01:29:10,013 --> 01:29:10,452 Speaker 4: our era? 1939 01:29:10,652 --> 01:29:12,412 Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty's number to call 1940 01:29:12,452 --> 01:29:16,693 Speaker 3: twenty past three. 1941 01:29:17,853 --> 01:29:21,213 Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons. Call Oh eight hundred 1942 01:29:21,213 --> 01:29:23,173 Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty on news Talk ZEDB. 1943 01:29:23,612 --> 01:29:25,452 Speaker 3: Good afternoon, twenty two past three. 1944 01:29:25,772 --> 01:29:27,852 Speaker 2: Brad Pitt's in the country. We're very excited. I understand 1945 01:29:27,893 --> 01:29:30,772 Speaker 2: he's in Auckland and he's going to be filming a 1946 01:29:30,812 --> 01:29:33,052 Speaker 2: movie down in Queenstown. Sounds like a pretty interesting movie. 1947 01:29:33,213 --> 01:29:34,253 Speaker 2: Guy coming back from war. 1948 01:29:34,293 --> 01:29:36,972 Speaker 4: He's got his dog. Something's happening. It's called the Heart 1949 01:29:36,973 --> 01:29:37,693 Speaker 4: of the Beast. 1950 01:29:37,492 --> 01:29:40,213 Speaker 3: Or part of the Beast. That's right, and someone's done 1951 01:29:40,293 --> 01:29:43,293 Speaker 3: him wrong and he comes back into society. And it's 1952 01:29:43,333 --> 01:29:45,412 Speaker 3: meant to be based in Alaska, but being filmed right 1953 01:29:45,452 --> 01:29:47,012 Speaker 3: here in our beautiful New Zealand. 1954 01:29:47,412 --> 01:29:51,812 Speaker 2: Speaking of dogs, no one's mentioned Keanu Reeves yet as 1955 01:29:51,812 --> 01:29:53,892 Speaker 2: in terms of greatest actors. And you've got to say 1956 01:29:53,893 --> 01:29:57,213 Speaker 2: that John Wick series, Oh, very very good. 1957 01:29:57,772 --> 01:29:58,972 Speaker 4: But can he act? 1958 01:29:59,093 --> 01:30:01,772 Speaker 2: It's another question. I don't know ifs can actually act. 1959 01:30:01,893 --> 01:30:04,333 Speaker 3: It's incredibly watchable, wasn't it. But he kind of plays 1960 01:30:04,412 --> 01:30:06,772 Speaker 3: Peter plays the same, and he can choot a gun. 1961 01:30:06,973 --> 01:30:07,293 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1962 01:30:07,853 --> 01:30:09,612 Speaker 3: Has he been apart from Billainteers. 1963 01:30:09,173 --> 01:30:12,812 Speaker 2: Bills, He's been in so many things Speed Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, 1964 01:30:13,293 --> 01:30:18,372 Speaker 2: The Matrix. Yeah, he's he's fantastic. Tony greatest actor of 1965 01:30:18,412 --> 01:30:18,772 Speaker 2: our era. 1966 01:30:20,612 --> 01:30:23,333 Speaker 10: Well, he's quite a confidence. It's a Kiwi. It's Sam 1967 01:30:23,412 --> 01:30:24,732 Speaker 10: Mill Yeah. 1968 01:30:24,812 --> 01:30:27,532 Speaker 2: I mean would have got so many great movies. Jurassic Park, 1969 01:30:27,612 --> 01:30:32,612 Speaker 2: Hunt for Red, October, Event, Horizon. He just goes and goes. 1970 01:30:32,652 --> 01:30:33,652 Speaker 2: He's always in something. 1971 01:30:34,372 --> 01:30:36,732 Speaker 26: He's getting better as he gets older. 1972 01:30:37,133 --> 01:30:38,532 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's always in a series. 1973 01:30:38,572 --> 01:30:43,052 Speaker 2: He's always in a high budgets Netflix series. 1974 01:30:43,053 --> 01:30:45,093 Speaker 4: He was great and Peaky Blinders. 1975 01:30:44,372 --> 01:30:48,293 Speaker 3: Ye would be would be our greatest actor of all time, 1976 01:30:48,333 --> 01:30:48,772 Speaker 3: wouldn't he? 1977 01:30:48,933 --> 01:30:49,213 Speaker 6: Really? 1978 01:30:49,253 --> 01:30:51,293 Speaker 3: Can you think of anybody else in New Zealand? 1979 01:30:51,492 --> 01:30:52,372 Speaker 4: Bruno Lawrence might be. 1980 01:30:52,372 --> 01:30:55,732 Speaker 3: In the conversation, Oh, Carl Urban Anthony Star. 1981 01:30:56,293 --> 01:30:58,932 Speaker 2: Anthony Starr is a fantastic actor if you're looking at 1982 01:30:59,133 --> 01:31:04,172 Speaker 2: New Zealand actors. His his role as Homelander on The Boys. 1983 01:31:04,333 --> 01:31:07,452 Speaker 4: Yeah, that guy is just such a great actor, like 1984 01:31:08,492 --> 01:31:10,013 Speaker 4: a Ward the Nuance. He brings to that role. 1985 01:31:10,173 --> 01:31:13,932 Speaker 3: Benchi want that was a great series, Sam Neil, thank 1986 01:31:13,933 --> 01:31:14,412 Speaker 3: you very much. 1987 01:31:14,452 --> 01:31:17,972 Speaker 4: Tony as greatest actor of our era. 1988 01:31:19,253 --> 01:31:23,692 Speaker 26: Well, it's definitely got to be between Christian Bale or either, 1989 01:31:24,692 --> 01:31:27,372 Speaker 26: like you said before, Keanu Reeves and one of them 1990 01:31:27,492 --> 01:31:30,652 Speaker 26: is a typical normal actor and one of them's a 1991 01:31:30,692 --> 01:31:31,412 Speaker 26: method actor. 1992 01:31:32,013 --> 01:31:34,612 Speaker 3: Yeah, very true. Christian Bale, very very good actor. 1993 01:31:34,692 --> 01:31:38,052 Speaker 2: Yeah, fantastic Batman, the best Batman, the Dark Knight Batman 1994 01:31:38,093 --> 01:31:41,692 Speaker 2: begins Dark KNIGHTK Have you seen him? An American psycho. 1995 01:31:42,053 --> 01:31:44,132 Speaker 2: He's fantastic as Patrick Bateman. 1996 01:31:45,853 --> 01:31:48,052 Speaker 26: Yes, And I do believe they're in making that movie 1997 01:31:48,133 --> 01:31:52,532 Speaker 26: actually this year or next year, but it'll be coming 1998 01:31:52,532 --> 01:31:55,132 Speaker 26: out soon in the remake years. But Chris, it's definitely 1999 01:31:55,133 --> 01:31:59,492 Speaker 26: between Christian Bale or Keane Reeves there. They're really typically 2000 01:31:59,933 --> 01:32:04,253 Speaker 26: quite got a vastic expansive movies that they've done throughout 2001 01:32:04,293 --> 01:32:04,772 Speaker 26: their careers. 2002 01:32:05,333 --> 01:32:08,173 Speaker 3: Was it The Mechanic that he lost an incredible amount 2003 01:32:08,173 --> 01:32:12,732 Speaker 3: of eight but quite a Yeah, quite a harrowing watch, 2004 01:32:12,812 --> 01:32:14,172 Speaker 3: but a very very good movie. 2005 01:32:15,053 --> 01:32:18,452 Speaker 26: Yeah, he's actually, he's very committed to his roles and 2006 01:32:18,893 --> 01:32:23,812 Speaker 26: I think he he there's a comment that is quite 2007 01:32:23,893 --> 01:32:27,293 Speaker 26: famous on his that he prides most of his career 2008 01:32:27,492 --> 01:32:32,372 Speaker 26: of accepting the roles in the movies that Leonardo DiCaprio 2009 01:32:32,492 --> 01:32:33,333 Speaker 26: has turned down. 2010 01:32:35,893 --> 01:32:36,653 Speaker 10: Yeah. 2011 01:32:36,732 --> 01:32:39,492 Speaker 2: Yeah, No's he's a phenomenal actor. I just saw him 2012 01:32:39,492 --> 01:32:41,093 Speaker 2: the other day actually, it just popped up in the 2013 01:32:41,093 --> 01:32:44,492 Speaker 2: Prestige with Hugh Jackman. That's a fantastic and also another 2014 01:32:44,572 --> 01:32:47,692 Speaker 2: Christopher Nolan movie and he's great in that. Yeah, I've 2015 01:32:47,692 --> 01:32:49,173 Speaker 2: got to say Christian Bale, he. 2016 01:32:49,213 --> 01:32:54,812 Speaker 4: Is, he's the real deal. Kevin Denzel Washington's your guy. 2017 01:32:56,013 --> 01:32:59,333 Speaker 16: Yes, mate, by far the best actories. 2018 01:33:00,173 --> 01:33:03,372 Speaker 4: He do You do you enjoy the Equalizer series? 2019 01:33:04,772 --> 01:33:04,972 Speaker 10: Yeah? 2020 01:33:05,173 --> 01:33:09,253 Speaker 16: Three three Equalizers one on Fire. He's in the New 2021 01:33:09,612 --> 01:33:10,812 Speaker 16: Gladiator as well. 2022 01:33:11,093 --> 01:33:17,013 Speaker 4: Training Day he was fantastic and well what was that? 2023 01:33:17,133 --> 01:33:19,053 Speaker 4: What's the one where he is the drunk, drugged out 2024 01:33:19,093 --> 01:33:19,812 Speaker 4: pilot flight? 2025 01:33:19,973 --> 01:33:20,133 Speaker 6: Oh? 2026 01:33:20,253 --> 01:33:22,892 Speaker 4: Yes, that is that is a fantastic performance. 2027 01:33:23,013 --> 01:33:24,213 Speaker 3: John Goodman's in that as well. 2028 01:33:24,253 --> 01:33:26,732 Speaker 2: He always brings something, even like that, the slightly ropey 2029 01:33:26,853 --> 01:33:30,412 Speaker 2: Gladiated to movie that's just been been out. Denzel is 2030 01:33:30,492 --> 01:33:32,772 Speaker 2: just He's just always great in the movie, isn't he. 2031 01:33:32,772 --> 01:33:34,412 Speaker 3: He was the standout in that movie, wasn't he? 2032 01:33:35,692 --> 01:33:39,932 Speaker 16: Yeah? Yep, that's what He's most favorite actor both for what. 2033 01:33:39,973 --> 01:33:42,333 Speaker 3: Is your favorite Dinzel movie? If you had to pick one, 2034 01:33:46,492 --> 01:33:51,133 Speaker 3: American Gangster American Kangster, Yeah, yeah, great movie. He was 2035 01:33:51,253 --> 01:33:56,772 Speaker 3: terrifying in that. Guys. What about Gary Oldman? Phenomenal actor. 2036 01:33:56,933 --> 01:34:00,972 Speaker 3: He has been in so many fantastic movies and kind 2037 01:34:01,013 --> 01:34:01,852 Speaker 3: of gets forgotten about. 2038 01:34:01,893 --> 01:34:06,132 Speaker 2: Yeah, Gary Oldman, he was in He was in Batman 2039 01:34:06,253 --> 01:34:09,572 Speaker 2: with Christian Bale, wasn't he? Yeah, Old Oltman and he's 2040 01:34:09,772 --> 01:34:12,652 Speaker 2: currently fantastic and Slow Horses. If you watch the Apple 2041 01:34:12,692 --> 01:34:15,093 Speaker 2: TV show Slow Horses, I haven't he You've got to 2042 01:34:15,093 --> 01:34:17,653 Speaker 2: watch that show. That is one of the greatest performances 2043 01:34:17,692 --> 01:34:22,892 Speaker 2: he's absolutely disgusting human being, but brilliant slow horses. 2044 01:34:22,973 --> 01:34:24,453 Speaker 4: Yeah, check that out, Gary Elman. 2045 01:34:24,293 --> 01:34:26,532 Speaker 3: Love it. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is 2046 01:34:26,612 --> 01:34:29,173 Speaker 3: the number to call and we'll pick up some more 2047 01:34:29,173 --> 01:34:31,093 Speaker 3: of your texts on nine two ninety two very shortly 2048 01:34:31,133 --> 01:34:33,333 Speaker 3: as well. Headlines with ray Lean coming. 2049 01:34:33,133 --> 01:34:39,613 Speaker 1: Up, Dews talks, it'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis. 2050 01:34:39,732 --> 01:34:43,172 Speaker 8: It's no trouble with a blue bubble. Foreign Minister Winston 2051 01:34:43,293 --> 01:34:46,652 Speaker 8: Peters is setting off for Beijing today but is giving 2052 01:34:46,692 --> 01:34:50,373 Speaker 8: away little about the subject of his high level meetings. 2053 01:34:50,692 --> 01:34:53,812 Speaker 8: They're expected to include discussion of the Cook Islands partnership 2054 01:34:53,853 --> 01:34:57,132 Speaker 8: agreement with China. Peters will then head on to Saudi 2055 01:34:57,133 --> 01:35:01,613 Speaker 8: Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. The Chief Children's Commissioner 2056 01:35:01,692 --> 01:35:05,012 Speaker 8: says it's shocking one in five children in New Zealand 2057 01:35:05,093 --> 01:35:09,532 Speaker 8: still live in material hardship, according to figures up to June. 2058 01:35:09,612 --> 01:35:12,972 Speaker 8: A New Zealand born teen threatened with deportation to India 2059 01:35:13,293 --> 01:35:16,333 Speaker 8: says they've been offered a resident visa by the Associate 2060 01:35:16,372 --> 01:35:21,133 Speaker 8: Immigration Minister. A King Country woman who severely neglected her 2061 01:35:21,213 --> 01:35:25,052 Speaker 8: pet has been disqualified from owning dogs for fifteen years. 2062 01:35:25,452 --> 01:35:28,572 Speaker 8: The dog was found unresponsive and a kennel filled with 2063 01:35:28,652 --> 01:35:31,852 Speaker 8: feces and rubbish in the women's Tikuweiti home. In August 2064 01:35:31,933 --> 01:35:36,213 Speaker 8: of twenty twenty three, the school lunch collective is apologizing 2065 01:35:36,253 --> 01:35:40,372 Speaker 8: for delivering lunches containing ham to Auckland's Propatoy Toy Intermediate 2066 01:35:40,652 --> 01:35:45,293 Speaker 8: meant to get halal friendly food Reserve Bank Governor Adrian 2067 01:35:45,412 --> 01:35:48,772 Speaker 8: or WARN's longer term mortgage interest rates might not fall 2068 01:35:48,853 --> 01:35:52,532 Speaker 8: too much more. You can see more at Enzen Herald Premium. 2069 01:35:52,612 --> 01:35:54,372 Speaker 8: Now back to matte Ethan Tyler. 2070 01:35:54,053 --> 01:35:57,852 Speaker 3: Adams, Thank you very much, Raylean, And we've asked the question, 2071 01:35:58,013 --> 01:36:00,652 Speaker 3: is Brad Pitt's the greatest actor of our generation. 2072 01:36:00,772 --> 01:36:02,532 Speaker 2: He's in the country, he's an Auckland. The moment he's 2073 01:36:02,532 --> 01:36:04,452 Speaker 2: going down to Queenstown, no one seems to have spotted him, 2074 01:36:04,452 --> 01:36:05,452 Speaker 2: but everyone's very excited. 2075 01:36:05,532 --> 01:36:07,732 Speaker 4: But I tell you what, there isn't a bloody single 2076 01:36:07,772 --> 01:36:08,213 Speaker 4: person that. 2077 01:36:08,173 --> 01:36:10,652 Speaker 2: The I thinks Brad Pitt is the greatest actor of 2078 01:36:10,692 --> 01:36:13,972 Speaker 2: all time, even though he's in fantastic movies like Fight 2079 01:36:14,053 --> 01:36:17,333 Speaker 2: Club and Once Upon a Time and Hollywood. I enjoyed 2080 01:36:17,333 --> 01:36:19,572 Speaker 2: that movie, didn't recently Bullet Train. But he's been in 2081 01:36:19,572 --> 01:36:24,412 Speaker 2: so many great movies. Has you Benjamin Button, Yep, he's 2082 01:36:24,412 --> 01:36:26,452 Speaker 2: been in a few, and you're right. We've had about 2083 01:36:26,692 --> 01:36:29,452 Speaker 2: five hundred ticks that have come through. Not one person 2084 01:36:29,452 --> 01:36:31,892 Speaker 2: that I've seen and said, Yep, Brad Pitt is the best. 2085 01:36:31,933 --> 01:36:34,732 Speaker 2: We've had so many more people texting in for Jason 2086 01:36:34,732 --> 01:36:35,932 Speaker 2: Statham than Brad Pitt. 2087 01:36:35,973 --> 01:36:38,612 Speaker 3: Great actor, great body, very good body. 2088 01:36:38,692 --> 01:36:41,812 Speaker 2: I love a Jason Stathan movie now Jason Stathan Punisher. 2089 01:36:41,853 --> 01:36:43,572 Speaker 2: They're nearly all the same movie. But it's always a 2090 01:36:43,572 --> 01:36:47,053 Speaker 2: good time and he is so busy. Jason Stathan does 2091 01:36:47,253 --> 01:36:50,492 Speaker 2: makes more movies than anyone else. The Beekeeper is a 2092 01:36:50,492 --> 01:36:54,333 Speaker 2: film I watched recently. It's ridiculous. Yeah, he's a beekeeper. 2093 01:36:54,372 --> 01:36:57,013 Speaker 2: He's a group of a secret beekeeping organization. But when 2094 01:36:57,053 --> 01:36:59,452 Speaker 2: he retires from the beekeeping organization, which is just the 2095 01:36:59,572 --> 01:37:04,093 Speaker 2: name for what they investigate with and go in and 2096 01:37:04,173 --> 01:37:06,333 Speaker 2: kill people or whatever, and then he retires to be 2097 01:37:06,372 --> 01:37:08,733 Speaker 2: a beekeeper on the farm, they really work them. 2098 01:37:08,812 --> 01:37:10,092 Speaker 3: Yeah, but the model kind of works. 2099 01:37:10,133 --> 01:37:10,333 Speaker 6: You know. 2100 01:37:10,412 --> 01:37:14,293 Speaker 3: He's a CIA operator for a former police officer trying 2101 01:37:14,333 --> 01:37:16,812 Speaker 3: to just merge back into normal life and something pulls 2102 01:37:16,812 --> 01:37:17,772 Speaker 3: them back into the lights. 2103 01:37:18,053 --> 01:37:22,052 Speaker 2: So many people texting Daniel day Lewis to nineteen nine 2104 01:37:22,253 --> 01:37:27,612 Speaker 2: two Shelley the greatest actor of our generation at this era. 2105 01:37:28,133 --> 01:37:31,892 Speaker 2: However long that is, I. 2106 01:37:31,812 --> 01:37:36,692 Speaker 17: Think it's between Adam Sandler and Johnny Depp. 2107 01:37:37,933 --> 01:37:40,732 Speaker 2: Right, So Adam Sanders one of those ones that has 2108 01:37:40,732 --> 01:37:43,452 Speaker 2: that range, doesn't he because of course he plays the 2109 01:37:43,452 --> 01:37:45,652 Speaker 2: same character Lott in as comedy movies, although you know 2110 01:37:45,692 --> 01:37:47,333 Speaker 2: you're going to say he puts on a stupid voice 2111 01:37:47,333 --> 01:37:49,293 Speaker 2: from now and then, but then he's really good as 2112 01:37:49,333 --> 01:37:50,492 Speaker 2: a serious actor as well. 2113 01:37:51,572 --> 01:37:52,213 Speaker 9: Yeah yeah. 2114 01:37:52,612 --> 01:37:58,452 Speaker 17: And Johnny Depp, he can go so far out the box, 2115 01:37:58,772 --> 01:38:03,293 Speaker 17: like Alice in Wonderland. 2116 01:38:04,732 --> 01:38:05,213 Speaker 9: And then. 2117 01:38:06,572 --> 01:38:08,973 Speaker 17: What Willy Wonka in. 2118 01:38:10,532 --> 01:38:11,773 Speaker 27: Pirates of the Caribbean. 2119 01:38:12,333 --> 01:38:12,652 Speaker 4: Yeah. 2120 01:38:12,973 --> 01:38:15,852 Speaker 2: I was just if you've got a Samsung TV, then 2121 01:38:16,093 --> 01:38:17,973 Speaker 2: it just sometimes plays movies when you turn it on. 2122 01:38:18,013 --> 01:38:23,092 Speaker 2: There's Samsung, a whole Samsung television, hundreds of shows. Anyway, 2123 01:38:23,213 --> 01:38:25,133 Speaker 2: turned it on last night and Edward scissars Hands was 2124 01:38:25,133 --> 01:38:25,412 Speaker 2: on there. 2125 01:38:25,412 --> 01:38:26,812 Speaker 3: Great movie and boy. 2126 01:38:28,333 --> 01:38:28,893 Speaker 17: Favorite. 2127 01:38:29,053 --> 01:38:31,692 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. And at that time he was just an 2128 01:38:31,732 --> 01:38:34,932 Speaker 2: absolute heart throb. Johnny Depp, you know, people just loved him. 2129 01:38:34,933 --> 01:38:36,572 Speaker 2: There's twenty one Jump Street and then he goes in 2130 01:38:36,612 --> 01:38:40,053 Speaker 2: to do movies and he acts so weird in the 2131 01:38:40,093 --> 01:38:44,133 Speaker 2: movies that everything. He's got his white face crazy here, 2132 01:38:44,253 --> 01:38:48,173 Speaker 2: he's got the scissorhands obviously, and he acts like a 2133 01:38:48,173 --> 01:38:48,772 Speaker 2: little child. 2134 01:38:49,013 --> 01:38:50,852 Speaker 3: And then Tim Burton, are there just like two peas 2135 01:38:50,893 --> 01:38:52,293 Speaker 3: in the pot? Aren't they very similar? 2136 01:38:52,412 --> 01:38:56,492 Speaker 2: Quite weird but geniuses the time, massively weird. 2137 01:38:56,853 --> 01:38:58,933 Speaker 10: Yeah, absolutely love that. 2138 01:38:59,093 --> 01:39:02,772 Speaker 3: I mean, in terms of box office success, Adam Sandler 2139 01:39:02,812 --> 01:39:03,892 Speaker 3: would be right up there. 2140 01:39:04,372 --> 01:39:07,092 Speaker 2: Just he just pumps them out, doesn't he. Yeah, yeah, 2141 01:39:07,133 --> 01:39:08,852 Speaker 2: he's made and you know a lot of them are 2142 01:39:08,853 --> 01:39:11,173 Speaker 2: made by his own own production company, so it makes 2143 01:39:11,173 --> 01:39:13,532 Speaker 2: a lot of money from from yet from. 2144 01:39:13,452 --> 01:39:17,173 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, he makes a lot of his own movie. 2145 01:39:17,492 --> 01:39:18,213 Speaker 4: Yeah. 2146 01:39:18,253 --> 01:39:22,133 Speaker 2: All right, think if you call Shelley appreciate that. I mean, 2147 01:39:22,812 --> 01:39:24,293 Speaker 2: I'll watch every Adam Sandler movie. 2148 01:39:24,612 --> 01:39:27,293 Speaker 4: Why, well, the quality varies greatly. 2149 01:39:28,213 --> 01:39:30,692 Speaker 2: Happy Gilmore was one of my favorite movies. I'm concerned 2150 01:39:30,692 --> 01:39:32,372 Speaker 2: about the remake. Yeah, Happy Gilmore? 2151 01:39:32,732 --> 01:39:33,412 Speaker 3: Are you going to be in it? 2152 01:39:33,652 --> 01:39:33,812 Speaker 6: Yeah? 2153 01:39:33,893 --> 01:39:34,973 Speaker 3: Of course, right, couldn't do. 2154 01:39:34,933 --> 01:39:36,253 Speaker 4: Happy Gilmore without Happy Gilmore. 2155 01:39:36,532 --> 01:39:38,812 Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, but then again, you know, like I 2156 01:39:38,933 --> 01:39:42,333 Speaker 2: enjoyed those murder mystery movies that he's been making reately. 2157 01:39:42,093 --> 01:39:44,452 Speaker 3: And shoot mcgavn's coming back. Is he shooting McGavin The 2158 01:39:44,732 --> 01:39:47,892 Speaker 3: actor surely. Yeah, yeah, you have to have too. He 2159 01:39:47,933 --> 01:39:49,213 Speaker 3: was pretty good. I enjoyed water Boy. 2160 01:39:49,572 --> 01:39:52,612 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is some of them was really tests. What's 2161 01:39:52,612 --> 01:39:55,012 Speaker 2: the one when he plays himself and his twin sister. 2162 01:39:55,173 --> 01:39:56,532 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's a shore That. 2163 01:39:56,772 --> 01:39:59,972 Speaker 2: One, that one that'll test your that's called Jack and Jill. Yeah, yeah, 2164 01:40:00,053 --> 01:40:01,253 Speaker 2: that's the that'll test you. 2165 01:40:01,372 --> 01:40:07,692 Speaker 3: That one eighty is the number of cool. Ricardo, I'll 2166 01:40:07,732 --> 01:40:08,732 Speaker 3: go Greek, Greg. 2167 01:40:08,933 --> 01:40:11,372 Speaker 4: You think Brad Pitt is the greatest actor of our era. 2168 01:40:12,612 --> 01:40:17,372 Speaker 19: I think Johnny Depp is really brilliant. He's got more scope, 2169 01:40:18,732 --> 01:40:21,532 Speaker 19: all those different roles he played. He was dead Man 2170 01:40:21,612 --> 01:40:23,612 Speaker 19: Walking too, wasn't he? That was Johnny Depp? Was it 2171 01:40:23,652 --> 01:40:24,452 Speaker 19: dead Men Walking? 2172 01:40:25,133 --> 01:40:26,133 Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure it was. 2173 01:40:26,372 --> 01:40:31,053 Speaker 19: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'd agree with the previous fur that 2174 01:40:31,452 --> 01:40:33,012 Speaker 19: Brad Pitt's effort. 2175 01:40:33,973 --> 01:40:36,253 Speaker 3: Snatch, Yeah, that's a great movie. 2176 01:40:36,293 --> 01:40:36,532 Speaker 6: Yeah. 2177 01:40:37,053 --> 01:40:40,532 Speaker 19: Do you know how the way he pulled off at 2178 01:40:41,933 --> 01:40:49,652 Speaker 19: the deep undescribable Irish accent, what I'm doing man, And. 2179 01:40:49,572 --> 01:40:50,892 Speaker 4: He's got the body for the fighting. 2180 01:40:51,652 --> 01:40:53,852 Speaker 2: I went to Snatch in the movie theater and it 2181 01:40:53,893 --> 01:40:55,933 Speaker 2: had a power, just you know, that big finale with 2182 01:40:55,933 --> 01:40:56,652 Speaker 2: the big fight. 2183 01:40:56,492 --> 01:40:58,492 Speaker 4: At the end, so much tension. 2184 01:40:58,572 --> 01:41:00,173 Speaker 2: I'm so tense for the end of it and big 2185 01:41:00,173 --> 01:41:02,572 Speaker 2: guy Richie Fan. So I love that movie and just 2186 01:41:02,572 --> 01:41:04,732 Speaker 2: the power went off and they all just marched us out. 2187 01:41:04,853 --> 01:41:07,213 Speaker 3: Oh you're kidding, And so you built up to as 2188 01:41:07,253 --> 01:41:09,612 Speaker 3: I get into the finale, yeah he's got it. 2189 01:41:10,133 --> 01:41:12,333 Speaker 19: Well, I'm sure you can go watch a game, Fellas, 2190 01:41:12,333 --> 01:41:15,253 Speaker 19: but yeah, brilliant. And then you know that the runner 2191 01:41:15,293 --> 01:41:17,452 Speaker 19: after Lockstock two, smoking barrels two. 2192 01:41:17,933 --> 01:41:18,492 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're good. 2193 01:41:18,492 --> 01:41:20,572 Speaker 2: I was just talking just thinking about how he mentioned 2194 01:41:20,612 --> 01:41:23,572 Speaker 2: Johnny depp fear and loathing in Las Vegas when he's 2195 01:41:23,572 --> 01:41:24,692 Speaker 2: being attacked by the bats. 2196 01:41:24,732 --> 01:41:28,333 Speaker 3: That's yeah, yeah, it certainly is. 2197 01:41:29,213 --> 01:41:30,612 Speaker 4: Sorry, Sorry, what are you saying there? Greg? 2198 01:41:31,333 --> 01:41:33,333 Speaker 19: I just want to put a plug in for Vinnie Jones. 2199 01:41:33,372 --> 01:41:35,173 Speaker 19: So I know he's a shout actor, but my god, 2200 01:41:35,973 --> 01:41:37,812 Speaker 19: I just like that guy for seventy reasons. 2201 01:41:38,093 --> 01:41:40,772 Speaker 3: He's done blooming well. From a former hard man football 2202 01:41:41,013 --> 01:41:42,333 Speaker 3: he's he's been very successful. 2203 01:41:42,333 --> 01:41:44,133 Speaker 19: Well, it was it was a great footballer. 2204 01:41:46,612 --> 01:41:48,333 Speaker 2: It was pretty it was pretty good in The Gentleman. 2205 01:41:48,372 --> 01:41:50,692 Speaker 2: Have you watched that Netflix series The Gentleman? Another guy 2206 01:41:50,812 --> 01:41:51,572 Speaker 2: Richie Product. 2207 01:41:53,492 --> 01:41:55,812 Speaker 19: I haven't seen that. Actually, I'm better check that one out. 2208 01:41:56,093 --> 01:41:57,612 Speaker 4: It's really it's really really good. 2209 01:41:57,652 --> 01:42:00,372 Speaker 2: But Vinnie Jones is very very good in that apparently 2210 01:42:00,412 --> 01:42:02,093 Speaker 2: like him and Guy Ritchie a best mates. They live 2211 01:42:02,133 --> 01:42:04,852 Speaker 2: in states that are right beside each other in the 2212 01:42:04,853 --> 01:42:08,333 Speaker 2: English countryside and drive around and you know, shoot things, 2213 01:42:08,412 --> 01:42:10,532 Speaker 2: and you know, dress up and. 2214 01:42:11,013 --> 01:42:12,692 Speaker 3: Cheese cutters and suck sounds like a good time. 2215 01:42:12,812 --> 01:42:14,053 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd be into that all right. 2216 01:42:14,933 --> 01:42:17,133 Speaker 3: Thanks are oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty 2217 01:42:17,213 --> 01:42:18,692 Speaker 3: is the number to call. Will take some more phone 2218 01:42:18,692 --> 01:42:21,093 Speaker 3: calls very shortly. It is twenty three to four. 2219 01:42:22,412 --> 01:42:26,093 Speaker 1: Have a chat with the lads on eighty Matt and 2220 01:42:26,173 --> 01:42:30,173 Speaker 1: Taylor afternoons with the Volvo XC ninety ticking every box, 2221 01:42:30,492 --> 01:42:33,412 Speaker 1: a seamless experience of Weeds news Talk said. 2222 01:42:33,213 --> 01:42:36,812 Speaker 3: Be good afternoon. It is twenty to four. And as 2223 01:42:36,853 --> 01:42:39,772 Speaker 3: Brad put the greatest actor of this generation, we could 2224 01:42:39,772 --> 01:42:41,172 Speaker 3: always put that one to bed, can't. 2225 01:42:41,013 --> 01:42:42,293 Speaker 4: We Yeah, there isn't. 2226 01:42:42,492 --> 01:42:44,492 Speaker 2: There's there's a there's a there's a bunch of people saying, 2227 01:42:44,532 --> 01:42:46,812 Speaker 2: oh my god, Brad Pitt is beautiful. Have loved him 2228 01:42:46,812 --> 01:42:48,372 Speaker 2: from day one. And Thelma and Leeds, that's when he 2229 01:42:48,412 --> 01:42:50,412 Speaker 2: turned up great movie Thelma and Louise. He turned up 2230 01:42:50,452 --> 01:42:53,612 Speaker 2: as the one night stand cowboy, and I think he 2231 01:42:53,732 --> 01:42:55,412 Speaker 2: blew everyone's mind with how hot he was. 2232 01:42:55,412 --> 01:42:56,213 Speaker 4: But then he went on to. 2233 01:42:56,133 --> 01:42:59,092 Speaker 2: Be a fantastic movie producer and he's a great actor. 2234 01:42:59,893 --> 01:43:04,972 Speaker 2: Did he win the Supporting Actor oscar for Once upon 2235 01:43:04,973 --> 01:43:05,692 Speaker 2: a Time in Hollywood? 2236 01:43:05,812 --> 01:43:06,012 Speaker 5: Oh? 2237 01:43:06,293 --> 01:43:06,652 Speaker 4: He wish? 2238 01:43:06,893 --> 01:43:08,893 Speaker 3: He was bloody good and that was good in that. 2239 01:43:09,452 --> 01:43:13,213 Speaker 3: We'll such that up. Ticks here for who's Ron Jeremy. 2240 01:43:13,973 --> 01:43:16,412 Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, he's that's not good. 2241 01:43:16,652 --> 01:43:18,812 Speaker 3: That's not good to google that. 2242 01:43:18,933 --> 01:43:21,812 Speaker 2: Sean Penn was dead Man Walking, not Johnny dep youw muppets? 2243 01:43:21,812 --> 01:43:24,372 Speaker 4: Okay, yep? I agree. 2244 01:43:24,933 --> 01:43:27,532 Speaker 2: Denzel Washington by Father Bess Simony. I think it's I 2245 01:43:27,572 --> 01:43:31,213 Speaker 2: think it is Denzel Washington that's currently running at number one, 2246 01:43:31,572 --> 01:43:39,933 Speaker 2: potentially followed by Jason Statham. No, potentially followed by Leonardo. 2247 01:43:39,492 --> 01:43:44,333 Speaker 3: DiCaprio, Yeah, de Niro and al Pacino. Yeah, Yellow very good. 2248 01:43:44,372 --> 01:43:46,973 Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, I mean that goes without saying how fantastic. 2249 01:43:47,053 --> 01:43:50,932 Speaker 2: Both of those those guys are Sam Rockwell greatest actor. 2250 01:43:51,013 --> 01:43:52,092 Speaker 4: He's very good, Sam. 2251 01:43:52,053 --> 01:43:55,213 Speaker 2: Rock Have you seen the movie Moon directed by Duncan Jones, 2252 01:43:55,213 --> 01:43:58,572 Speaker 2: who's David Bowie's son. Moon is so good and Sam 2253 01:43:58,732 --> 01:44:02,213 Speaker 2: Sam Sam Rockwell is really really freaking good in it. 2254 01:44:03,772 --> 01:44:06,452 Speaker 4: Riccardo you're another one on the Denzil and the Denzel Camp. 2255 01:44:07,532 --> 01:44:12,173 Speaker 19: Absolutely bread who Brad who never heard of them? 2256 01:44:12,412 --> 01:44:16,052 Speaker 27: Hands down, hands down, Denzel Washington. I loved his movies 2257 01:44:17,213 --> 01:44:19,452 Speaker 27: In Training, Day Man on Fire. He also played the 2258 01:44:19,692 --> 01:44:23,013 Speaker 27: iconic Malcolm X. I don't know whether the record this 2259 01:44:23,053 --> 01:44:27,532 Speaker 27: movie Ricochet after my fitness group, Ricochet Fitness, but h 2260 01:44:28,933 --> 01:44:32,052 Speaker 27: and also named my son Denzel as well because I wanted. 2261 01:44:31,812 --> 01:44:33,013 Speaker 25: A strong Yeah I did. 2262 01:44:33,133 --> 01:44:36,412 Speaker 27: Actually I wanted a strong name he was. I wanted 2263 01:44:36,412 --> 01:44:39,173 Speaker 27: a confident a name as well. And the way he 2264 01:44:39,213 --> 01:44:41,452 Speaker 27: sort of conducts himself in movies, the way he's able 2265 01:44:41,452 --> 01:44:46,452 Speaker 27: to articulate himself and play different different characters to an 2266 01:44:46,452 --> 01:44:50,173 Speaker 27: absolute tea was something I really admired. And look, you know, 2267 01:44:50,213 --> 01:44:53,133 Speaker 27: you see movie stars today and then you see Escapades 2268 01:44:53,173 --> 01:44:55,812 Speaker 27: and whatever they're up to one Davous and whatnot. Denzel 2269 01:44:55,853 --> 01:44:58,492 Speaker 27: sort of conducts himself outside of acting in a way 2270 01:44:58,492 --> 01:45:00,013 Speaker 27: that you really want to role model that for. 2271 01:45:00,053 --> 01:45:00,772 Speaker 19: Your kids as well. 2272 01:45:01,093 --> 01:45:02,852 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, and I was saying it before. 2273 01:45:02,893 --> 01:45:05,652 Speaker 2: But the Equalizer movies, you know that they're not the 2274 01:45:05,652 --> 01:45:09,492 Speaker 2: most celebrated movies he'd made, but dis good Equalizer one. 2275 01:45:09,612 --> 01:45:11,372 Speaker 2: I'll watch that over and over again, just because what 2276 01:45:11,412 --> 01:45:14,652 Speaker 2: a cool guy is old guy, he's very helping all 2277 01:45:14,652 --> 01:45:16,972 Speaker 2: the young people out, and he's just got this really 2278 01:45:17,013 --> 01:45:19,452 Speaker 2: good philosophy on life. He's kind of like the real Denzel. 2279 01:45:19,772 --> 01:45:22,253 Speaker 2: But then he can absolutely kick us and kill about 2280 01:45:22,253 --> 01:45:23,133 Speaker 2: four hundred people by the. 2281 01:45:23,173 --> 01:45:23,652 Speaker 4: End of the movie. 2282 01:45:23,732 --> 01:45:24,412 Speaker 3: Extremely what. 2283 01:45:27,853 --> 01:45:30,572 Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you, Riccardo. I think it's going to be. 2284 01:45:30,893 --> 01:45:33,612 Speaker 2: I think it's going to be Denzel. Denzel's number one? 2285 01:45:33,612 --> 01:45:34,412 Speaker 2: Can you knock him off? 2286 01:45:34,492 --> 01:45:36,812 Speaker 3: We've We've got about seven hundred texts that to come through, 2287 01:45:36,812 --> 01:45:38,412 Speaker 3: but we'll try and do a Telly but I think yeah, 2288 01:45:38,412 --> 01:45:39,372 Speaker 3: a lot for Denzel. 2289 01:45:39,812 --> 01:45:41,613 Speaker 4: Jimmy, Jimmy, your thoughts. 2290 01:45:42,452 --> 01:45:46,692 Speaker 15: Ah, Hi, guys work near. Look it's woman hard Maddie. 2291 01:45:46,732 --> 01:45:49,652 Speaker 15: You know your movie son, I'll give you the Jews boy. 2292 01:45:50,013 --> 01:45:55,492 Speaker 15: But yeah, Angel Dengel's there. But in the movie you. 2293 01:45:55,572 --> 01:46:01,572 Speaker 23: Played Hurricane Ruben Mate fantastic, he stole it, mate. But 2294 01:46:02,053 --> 01:46:05,732 Speaker 23: Brad Benjamin Benjamin what do you call it? 2295 01:46:06,452 --> 01:46:06,852 Speaker 3: William? 2296 01:46:07,692 --> 01:46:07,932 Speaker 5: Yeah? 2297 01:46:08,133 --> 01:46:12,652 Speaker 15: And Tom Hanks is fantastic, I mean male and trendy 2298 01:46:12,772 --> 01:46:15,732 Speaker 15: should well, he's he's the man, mate, I mean, let's 2299 01:46:15,772 --> 01:46:19,253 Speaker 15: be honest, A director, an actor. How long has he 2300 01:46:19,452 --> 01:46:22,692 Speaker 15: been around? At ninety odd years old. But I'll tell 2301 01:46:22,732 --> 01:46:27,173 Speaker 15: you what, guys, fantastic, good on yours, gladys. 2302 01:46:26,812 --> 01:46:29,213 Speaker 3: Good on you. Jimmy, I like your style, mate, just 2303 01:46:29,532 --> 01:46:31,772 Speaker 3: but a big batter boom from Jimmy. 2304 01:46:31,812 --> 01:46:41,532 Speaker 28: He mate, Hey, yeah, I was really like the the 2305 01:46:42,412 --> 01:46:45,372 Speaker 28: like the interpretation of d J. 2306 01:46:45,572 --> 01:46:48,452 Speaker 12: Lewis and Lincoln. I don't know if you guys have 2307 01:46:48,452 --> 01:46:49,013 Speaker 12: seen that one. 2308 01:46:49,333 --> 01:46:53,173 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's very pretty Yeah. I mean again talking about 2309 01:46:53,173 --> 01:46:56,492 Speaker 3: a method actor that puts us all into a role 2310 01:46:56,853 --> 01:46:59,173 Speaker 3: that guy would would be, you know, probably the best 2311 01:46:59,173 --> 01:46:59,812 Speaker 3: in the world of it. 2312 01:47:00,853 --> 01:47:04,053 Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, exactly, and I mean I mean Last Americans 2313 01:47:04,093 --> 01:47:07,532 Speaker 12: and there will be blood and all that sort of stuff. 2314 01:47:07,853 --> 01:47:09,892 Speaker 12: In the name of It's pretty awesome. 2315 01:47:09,973 --> 01:47:10,692 Speaker 5: That one In the. 2316 01:47:10,732 --> 01:47:12,772 Speaker 2: Name of the Father was a fantastic movie. He's the 2317 01:47:12,853 --> 01:47:14,732 Speaker 2: kind of guy identitiously doesn't do a movie. 2318 01:47:14,732 --> 01:47:16,173 Speaker 12: He doesn't foot as well. 2319 01:47:16,452 --> 01:47:17,173 Speaker 4: My left thought was the. 2320 01:47:17,133 --> 01:47:19,053 Speaker 2: First time I ever saw him, he was fantastic and 2321 01:47:19,093 --> 01:47:22,372 Speaker 2: that it's incredible performance. But he's one of those guys 2322 01:47:22,372 --> 01:47:24,452 Speaker 2: that he doesn't that doesn't feel like he needs to 2323 01:47:24,452 --> 01:47:26,572 Speaker 2: do movies. He almost has to be convinced. There's all 2324 01:47:26,572 --> 01:47:29,053 Speaker 2: these actors going out there trying to get movies, but 2325 01:47:29,093 --> 01:47:30,652 Speaker 2: you basically have to fly. 2326 01:47:30,612 --> 01:47:32,612 Speaker 4: Halfway in the world you find him. He's just working 2327 01:47:32,652 --> 01:47:35,013 Speaker 4: as a cobbler, and you have to exactly you. 2328 01:47:34,973 --> 01:47:39,052 Speaker 12: Have to talk about I know you guys talking about 2329 01:47:39,053 --> 01:47:41,492 Speaker 12: like age a groups and stuff like that, but I'm 2330 01:47:41,572 --> 01:47:45,213 Speaker 12: t eight, So yeah, no, I just love all those movies. 2331 01:47:45,412 --> 01:47:47,532 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you wanted to put a week Night in 2332 01:47:47,652 --> 01:47:48,932 Speaker 3: for DeNiro as well? 2333 01:47:48,933 --> 01:47:53,013 Speaker 12: Well, yep, yep, Danira, yep, yeah, yeah, Robert Denier and Albertino? 2334 01:47:53,692 --> 01:47:55,772 Speaker 4: How good were they? They have their How good were 2335 01:47:55,772 --> 01:47:57,692 Speaker 4: they together? And Heat? What a movie that is? 2336 01:47:57,812 --> 01:48:01,013 Speaker 12: Oh gosh, yeah, yeah, I mean exactly. I mean, and 2337 01:48:01,253 --> 01:48:04,772 Speaker 12: obviously Daring got good fellows and you know that sort 2338 01:48:04,772 --> 01:48:05,053 Speaker 12: of thing. 2339 01:48:05,173 --> 01:48:09,253 Speaker 3: So controversial, controversial with to narrow. But I saw him 2340 01:48:09,253 --> 01:48:11,253 Speaker 3: in a movie called The Intern, and I actually really 2341 01:48:11,333 --> 01:48:13,692 Speaker 3: enjoyed it. It's just a nice little comedy and I 2342 01:48:13,732 --> 01:48:14,732 Speaker 3: thought he was real good on it. 2343 01:48:14,772 --> 01:48:17,173 Speaker 4: How could is he in you know, his comedic turn 2344 01:48:17,492 --> 01:48:23,652 Speaker 4: and Turn and meet the parents? Yeah, he was wonderful. 2345 01:48:23,853 --> 01:48:25,412 Speaker 12: Yeah, he was really really lovely. 2346 01:48:25,532 --> 01:48:25,612 Speaker 5: Ye. 2347 01:48:25,812 --> 01:48:29,572 Speaker 3: So you're a good man, Allen, Thank you very much. 2348 01:48:29,933 --> 01:48:33,253 Speaker 3: A couple of texts coming through stan Lee Tucci This 2349 01:48:33,412 --> 01:48:36,253 Speaker 3: he say, does it? Is it Tookey stan Ley? I 2350 01:48:36,293 --> 01:48:36,852 Speaker 3: know who he is. 2351 01:48:37,253 --> 01:48:39,612 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the ball guy. Yeah, yeah he is. 2352 01:48:39,732 --> 01:48:40,573 Speaker 3: He's actor. 2353 01:48:40,933 --> 01:48:47,213 Speaker 4: Actually, no one mentioned what's his name? Actor? He died 2354 01:48:47,692 --> 01:48:50,973 Speaker 4: not so long ago from a heroin overdose. 2355 01:48:51,772 --> 01:48:53,532 Speaker 3: O Lija, no not. 2356 01:48:53,612 --> 01:48:56,892 Speaker 2: Le Legia was great as the Joker, but I'm not 2357 01:48:56,893 --> 01:49:00,253 Speaker 2: sure if it's wider work warrants him to be one 2358 01:49:00,253 --> 01:49:03,812 Speaker 2: of the greatest actors all time. But oh my god, 2359 01:49:03,812 --> 01:49:06,052 Speaker 2: this is going to kill me. Mark Wahlberg, someone sticks 2360 01:49:06,053 --> 01:49:10,252 Speaker 2: it through. Mark Wilberg can't act. He has no ability 2361 01:49:10,253 --> 01:49:12,133 Speaker 2: to act at all. He's in some good movies and 2362 01:49:12,372 --> 01:49:14,652 Speaker 2: he was pretty good in Boogie Nights. Yeah that's true. 2363 01:49:14,772 --> 01:49:17,652 Speaker 2: But if you want his acting, he brings on the 2364 01:49:17,692 --> 01:49:20,253 Speaker 2: money though, doesn't he he brings in the cash. 2365 01:49:20,253 --> 01:49:21,652 Speaker 3: But you're right, it is kind of the same. 2366 01:49:21,772 --> 01:49:24,052 Speaker 2: Have you seen the movie The m Knight? Sheemalin movie 2367 01:49:24,133 --> 01:49:25,892 Speaker 2: The Happening with Mark Roberts. 2368 01:49:26,412 --> 01:49:31,972 Speaker 4: Oh, I would never, I would murder No Wildberg? 2369 01:49:32,213 --> 01:49:35,372 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, great, Nigel, how are you mate? 2370 01:49:36,133 --> 01:49:36,973 Speaker 6: Yeah good. 2371 01:49:37,013 --> 01:49:40,692 Speaker 14: I'm not a Mark Wahlberg sand but he was Tiggler and. 2372 01:49:40,652 --> 01:49:41,852 Speaker 5: Boogie Knight, Yeah exactly. 2373 01:49:42,253 --> 01:49:42,973 Speaker 4: He was very good in that. 2374 01:49:44,293 --> 01:49:44,532 Speaker 13: Yeah. 2375 01:49:44,572 --> 01:49:46,412 Speaker 10: Marlon Brando. 2376 01:49:47,372 --> 01:49:50,852 Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, I mean fantastic, I mean He was 2377 01:49:50,933 --> 01:49:53,893 Speaker 2: a bit portly in Apocalypse Now, but back in the 2378 01:49:54,492 --> 01:49:57,933 Speaker 2: day he was absolutely incredible on the waterfront. What a 2379 01:49:57,973 --> 01:50:00,372 Speaker 2: performance that's going back to nineteen fifty four. I don't 2380 01:50:00,372 --> 01:50:02,532 Speaker 2: know if you'd call him of our era though, of 2381 01:50:02,612 --> 01:50:09,333 Speaker 2: the current era. It's great to mention them because what 2382 01:50:09,412 --> 01:50:11,372 Speaker 2: a fantastic actory was The Wild One. 2383 01:50:12,452 --> 01:50:14,013 Speaker 4: Yes, so many great movies. 2384 01:50:13,732 --> 01:50:18,372 Speaker 3: Thank you very much. As Philip seymore Hoffmans think about. 2385 01:50:18,452 --> 01:50:20,173 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got to be one of the greatest sexers 2386 01:50:20,173 --> 01:50:22,612 Speaker 4: of all time. Seware Hoffman and then Boogie Knights as well. 2387 01:50:23,612 --> 01:50:25,293 Speaker 4: What made me think of them? 2388 01:50:25,933 --> 01:50:29,852 Speaker 3: We'll go Gary, Gary, Yeah. 2389 01:50:29,692 --> 01:50:32,612 Speaker 18: Go ahead, guys, we're going to throw one into the UK. 2390 01:50:33,053 --> 01:50:38,132 Speaker 18: Chris Hemsworth mainly for his two movies It's An Extraction 2391 01:50:38,213 --> 01:50:42,572 Speaker 18: and Extraction two great movie. Also played played four as well, 2392 01:50:42,612 --> 01:50:44,772 Speaker 18: but he did a brilliant job. 2393 01:50:46,933 --> 01:50:49,412 Speaker 3: Well you just sorry, carry on, we just lost you. 2394 01:50:49,492 --> 01:50:50,852 Speaker 3: The did a brilliant job. 2395 01:50:50,732 --> 01:50:53,172 Speaker 14: In Astract Extraction. 2396 01:50:53,492 --> 01:50:53,572 Speaker 18: Ye. 2397 01:50:54,772 --> 01:50:57,693 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're great man them. 2398 01:50:57,133 --> 01:51:00,893 Speaker 14: But boy probably yeah, get down favorite. 2399 01:51:01,253 --> 01:51:03,692 Speaker 18: Yeah, once upon a time with Sean Connery, especially in 2400 01:51:03,732 --> 01:51:05,732 Speaker 18: The Hunt for the Rude October. Yeh. 2401 01:51:07,133 --> 01:51:08,213 Speaker 4: Sam Neil in there as well. 2402 01:51:09,253 --> 01:51:11,372 Speaker 14: Yeah, Yeah, there's a brilliant movie there. 2403 01:51:12,293 --> 01:51:19,293 Speaker 18: I love the McLean Saw movies and also James are 2404 01:51:19,372 --> 01:51:25,692 Speaker 18: Washington brilliant actor. I absolutely enjoyed his latest one. He 2405 01:51:25,772 --> 01:51:29,173 Speaker 18: did I forget the name of its number three in 2406 01:51:30,253 --> 01:51:31,093 Speaker 18: the equalizer. 2407 01:51:32,053 --> 01:51:33,932 Speaker 4: Yeah equals a three, equals a three. 2408 01:51:33,973 --> 01:51:34,173 Speaker 14: Yeah. 2409 01:51:34,213 --> 01:51:35,452 Speaker 4: Yeah, fantastic movie. 2410 01:51:35,532 --> 01:51:36,532 Speaker 14: That was brilliant. 2411 01:51:36,612 --> 01:51:36,812 Speaker 4: Yeah. 2412 01:51:36,893 --> 01:51:38,452 Speaker 18: Yeah, Well he's a brilliant actor. 2413 01:51:38,933 --> 01:51:39,173 Speaker 4: He is. 2414 01:51:39,213 --> 01:51:42,852 Speaker 2: He's fantastic boy boy, he's he's he's well out in front. 2415 01:51:42,933 --> 01:51:43,173 Speaker 4: Yeah. 2416 01:51:43,253 --> 01:51:46,772 Speaker 3: I think he's beaten bred. Brad listening. 2417 01:51:46,973 --> 01:51:52,053 Speaker 4: If you're listening, get out Denzil. It's Denzil country here. 2418 01:51:52,093 --> 01:51:55,732 Speaker 3: Come on. Eighty ten. Eighty is the number to call. 2419 01:51:55,732 --> 01:51:57,933 Speaker 3: Take a few more calls very shortly. It is eleven of. 2420 01:51:57,973 --> 01:52:02,812 Speaker 1: Four the big stories, the big issues, to the big 2421 01:52:02,853 --> 01:52:06,772 Speaker 1: trends and everything in between. Matt and Taylor Afternoons with 2422 01:52:06,893 --> 01:52:10,412 Speaker 1: the Volvo X ninety attention to detail and a commitment 2423 01:52:10,452 --> 01:52:10,932 Speaker 1: to comfort. 2424 01:52:11,013 --> 01:52:14,412 Speaker 5: News Dog ZB news Dog ZB. 2425 01:52:14,853 --> 01:52:16,652 Speaker 2: Red ports to the country. We were all very excited. 2426 01:52:16,732 --> 01:52:18,613 Speaker 2: But who is the greatest actor. 2427 01:52:18,532 --> 01:52:21,612 Speaker 4: Of all time? DEMI? 2428 01:52:22,173 --> 01:52:22,412 Speaker 14: To me? 2429 01:52:22,732 --> 01:52:23,492 Speaker 4: Is this to me more? 2430 01:52:25,772 --> 01:52:26,132 Speaker 10: Demi? 2431 01:52:26,412 --> 01:52:26,572 Speaker 6: Yeah? 2432 01:52:26,652 --> 01:52:28,772 Speaker 4: Demi? How are you? What's the greatest actor of all time? 2433 01:52:31,053 --> 01:52:33,172 Speaker 10: Like Christopher Walker? Are you true romance? 2434 01:52:33,612 --> 01:52:36,412 Speaker 4: Yeah? Chris Walkan's amazing, incredible voice. 2435 01:52:36,412 --> 01:52:39,293 Speaker 10: A great a great scene between him and Dennis Hopper. 2436 01:52:39,572 --> 01:52:42,973 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was also fantastic and sleepy hollow. I was 2437 01:52:42,973 --> 01:52:45,692 Speaker 2: just watching that thingain the other day as the Headless Horseman, terrifying. 2438 01:52:45,853 --> 01:52:47,293 Speaker 3: What was the one with Dennis Hopper? 2439 01:52:49,213 --> 01:52:54,333 Speaker 10: True Romance ninety three? Everyone's in that movie, Christian Trader, 2440 01:52:54,692 --> 01:52:59,732 Speaker 10: Gary Oldman, Brad pet I think who else is in it? 2441 01:52:59,853 --> 01:53:00,492 Speaker 10: Bel Kelmer? 2442 01:53:00,772 --> 01:53:02,852 Speaker 3: Yeah? Great movie. Oliver Stone, wasn't it. 2443 01:53:02,893 --> 01:53:03,093 Speaker 6: Yeah? 2444 01:53:03,093 --> 01:53:04,213 Speaker 3: I think it was an Oliver Stone one? 2445 01:53:04,253 --> 01:53:07,492 Speaker 4: Thanks for that text. What movie was he talking about there? 2446 01:53:07,692 --> 01:53:08,333 Speaker 3: True Romance? 2447 01:53:08,372 --> 01:53:08,532 Speaker 18: Oh? 2448 01:53:08,572 --> 01:53:08,772 Speaker 26: True? 2449 01:53:08,812 --> 01:53:11,933 Speaker 2: I mean yeah, yeah, that was written by Quentin Tarantino 2450 01:53:12,013 --> 01:53:13,333 Speaker 2: but directed by Olive Stone. 2451 01:53:13,372 --> 01:53:13,772 Speaker 3: Yeah right. 2452 01:53:14,253 --> 01:53:18,333 Speaker 4: Uh, Cheyenne, the greatest move hector of all time. 2453 01:53:20,213 --> 01:53:25,492 Speaker 3: Uh, you've got us on, You've got us on the speaker, 2454 01:53:25,612 --> 01:53:27,452 Speaker 3: so just put us off the speaker. Hopefully we'll have time. 2455 01:53:27,572 --> 01:53:29,852 Speaker 4: Judy, greatest sector of all time? In your opinion? 2456 01:53:30,812 --> 01:53:34,253 Speaker 29: Oh, I just think it's John Travolta. If you look 2457 01:53:34,293 --> 01:53:37,572 Speaker 29: at the versatility of that man, and you know in 2458 01:53:37,652 --> 01:53:40,812 Speaker 29: drama films as a villain man, he was a nasty 2459 01:53:40,933 --> 01:53:46,013 Speaker 29: villain boy in a bubble, totally different and then welcome back, 2460 01:53:46,093 --> 01:53:49,052 Speaker 29: cast a slightly dumb teenager. 2461 01:53:48,933 --> 01:53:52,572 Speaker 4: Welcome back, well, welcome yeah, and great. 2462 01:53:52,412 --> 01:53:53,733 Speaker 3: Dancer as well things. 2463 01:53:53,973 --> 01:53:57,052 Speaker 29: He's in drama. He was even in a film where 2464 01:53:57,093 --> 01:53:59,692 Speaker 29: he was a lawyer in an oil movie, you know, 2465 01:54:00,093 --> 01:54:04,253 Speaker 29: a went into the town or something. He's so versatile, 2466 01:54:04,853 --> 01:54:07,213 Speaker 29: and that's what you were looking for, Like, not so 2467 01:54:07,293 --> 01:54:10,372 Speaker 29: much the films, but the versatility of the actor. 2468 01:54:10,772 --> 01:54:11,892 Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you so much. 2469 01:54:11,933 --> 01:54:14,652 Speaker 3: We judy, all right, we found Travolt's biggest fan, clearly. 2470 01:54:14,772 --> 01:54:16,333 Speaker 4: But I've got about four. 2471 01:54:16,133 --> 01:54:19,772 Speaker 2: Thousand texts that we've tallied here to get the top 2472 01:54:20,013 --> 01:54:23,173 Speaker 2: five actors of our era. That was the question we 2473 01:54:23,213 --> 01:54:26,293 Speaker 2: asked Brad Pittsontown. Is he the greatest actor of the year. Well, 2474 01:54:26,492 --> 01:54:30,253 Speaker 2: the spoiler alert in the countdown he hasn't made it, 2475 01:54:31,093 --> 01:54:33,933 Speaker 2: but boy, oh boy, if we got a lot of texts. 2476 01:54:33,533 --> 01:54:36,413 Speaker 3: We certainly have. So the top five. 2477 01:54:36,653 --> 01:54:39,973 Speaker 4: As voted for by you. Okay, at five. 2478 01:54:39,853 --> 01:54:42,772 Speaker 3: Yep, Johnny Depp's coming there, nice, yep, good week, Johnny 2479 01:54:42,772 --> 01:54:43,093 Speaker 3: there go. 2480 01:54:43,013 --> 01:54:45,772 Speaker 4: Weld done. Johnny Cruise is coming at four. 2481 01:54:46,373 --> 01:54:48,933 Speaker 3: Controversial, but Weld done to that controversial. We should have 2482 01:54:48,973 --> 01:54:51,333 Speaker 3: been higher. Oh yeah, number before. 2483 01:54:51,453 --> 01:54:52,293 Speaker 4: Daniel day Lewis. 2484 01:54:52,413 --> 01:54:53,812 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Well done. 2485 01:54:54,973 --> 01:54:56,653 Speaker 4: Leo Leonardo DiCaprio. 2486 01:54:56,733 --> 01:54:57,413 Speaker 3: I agree, Yep. 2487 01:54:57,493 --> 01:54:59,453 Speaker 4: He likes him young, but he's been in a lot 2488 01:54:59,453 --> 01:55:03,772 Speaker 4: of movies. Know, were no surprises. If you've been listening 2489 01:55:03,772 --> 01:55:06,333 Speaker 4: the last hour Denzel Washington. 2490 01:55:07,013 --> 01:55:10,533 Speaker 3: World on Denzel. Sorry, Brad, if you're listening, yeah, you're 2491 01:55:10,573 --> 01:55:13,812 Speaker 3: welcome here. We're looking forward to your movie. Just do better, 2492 01:55:15,533 --> 01:55:16,293 Speaker 3: be better in this one. 2493 01:55:16,413 --> 01:55:17,493 Speaker 4: You might knock the inseil off. 2494 01:55:17,893 --> 01:55:21,052 Speaker 3: Thank you very much for today. I really enjoyed the chats, 2495 01:55:21,053 --> 01:55:23,493 Speaker 3: and we'll do it all again tomorrow. All right, give 2496 01:55:23,533 --> 01:55:24,573 Speaker 3: me a tasty KeyWe. 2497 01:56:35,093 --> 01:56:38,493 Speaker 5: Zied B For more from News Talk said B. 2498 01:56:38,772 --> 01:56:42,012 Speaker 1: Listen live on air or online, and keep our shows 2499 01:56:42,053 --> 01:56:45,333 Speaker 1: with you wherever you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio