1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,547 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,867 Speaker 1: from News Talks EDB. 3 00:00:12,667 --> 00:00:15,147 Speaker 2: But to Weekend Sport on News Talks THEB on Jason Pine, 4 00:00:15,187 --> 00:00:18,987 Speaker 2: August seventeen, All Blacks forty one, Argentina, twenty four. We're 5 00:00:19,027 --> 00:00:21,267 Speaker 2: going to get you straight to cord Doba, where All 6 00:00:21,307 --> 00:00:24,187 Speaker 2: Black's assistant coach Scott Hanson is standing by. Scott, thanks 7 00:00:24,227 --> 00:00:27,107 Speaker 2: for your time across New Zealand, only an hour or 8 00:00:27,187 --> 00:00:29,747 Speaker 2: so after the full time whistler is blind. Can we 9 00:00:29,787 --> 00:00:32,427 Speaker 2: address the first twenty minutes of the second half? First? 10 00:00:32,747 --> 00:00:34,907 Speaker 2: How did you see that period of the game from 11 00:00:34,947 --> 00:00:35,747 Speaker 2: the coaching box? 12 00:00:37,307 --> 00:00:38,467 Speaker 3: Are you officilely boring? 13 00:00:38,547 --> 00:00:44,507 Speaker 4: Jason? The word would be challenging, not so comfy sitting 14 00:00:44,507 --> 00:00:48,027 Speaker 4: in the box watching that. Some messages at half time 15 00:00:48,147 --> 00:00:51,667 Speaker 4: around how we continue it off by pressure? Didn't quite 16 00:00:51,667 --> 00:00:54,067 Speaker 4: get that the way we wanted to. There'll be some learnings, 17 00:00:54,107 --> 00:00:55,227 Speaker 4: but we need to be better than that. 18 00:00:56,027 --> 00:00:58,187 Speaker 2: Well, you certainly were better though in the twenty minutes 19 00:00:58,227 --> 00:01:00,427 Speaker 2: after that, and I know you and the coaching staff 20 00:01:00,427 --> 00:01:02,387 Speaker 2: talked a lot about the last twenty minutes of test 21 00:01:02,387 --> 00:01:04,947 Speaker 2: matches last year. How happy were you with the way 22 00:01:04,987 --> 00:01:07,667 Speaker 2: you played in the final twenty of the game. 23 00:01:08,947 --> 00:01:12,187 Speaker 4: Oh, you know, it's a fair question to ask the 24 00:01:12,227 --> 00:01:14,867 Speaker 4: final twenty. But let's take the context of the game 25 00:01:14,907 --> 00:01:16,387 Speaker 4: and what we're needed to do and that was the 26 00:01:16,467 --> 00:01:20,467 Speaker 4: car and get a performance that gave us and what 27 00:01:20,507 --> 00:01:22,507 Speaker 4: it gave us was a bonus point one, so we'll 28 00:01:22,507 --> 00:01:26,707 Speaker 4: take that. Yes, we'll acknowledge the twenty minutes, the first 29 00:01:26,707 --> 00:01:29,987 Speaker 4: twenty minutes in the second half and also the end 30 00:01:30,067 --> 00:01:33,347 Speaker 4: of the game. Will we managed it better around our momentum, 31 00:01:34,107 --> 00:01:35,547 Speaker 4: defended a little bit better in the middle of the 32 00:01:35,547 --> 00:01:36,267 Speaker 4: field and the like. 33 00:01:36,427 --> 00:01:38,907 Speaker 3: So it's a fair question. 34 00:01:39,027 --> 00:01:41,147 Speaker 4: But what we've got to understand also is we're happy 35 00:01:41,187 --> 00:01:44,667 Speaker 4: to get the bonus point one and get out of here, 36 00:01:45,347 --> 00:01:48,027 Speaker 4: take our learnings and we'll get into bon Asari's next week. 37 00:01:49,387 --> 00:01:53,387 Speaker 2: The first half performance thirty one ten at halftime, What 38 00:01:53,507 --> 00:01:55,587 Speaker 2: was your overall assessment of the first forty. 39 00:01:57,467 --> 00:01:59,907 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think just watching it live and again, Jose, 40 00:01:59,947 --> 00:02:03,467 Speaker 4: I haven't watched it again, but sitting sitting up and 41 00:02:03,507 --> 00:02:05,787 Speaker 4: watching it live. When we shifted the ball, while when 42 00:02:05,787 --> 00:02:08,307 Speaker 4: we had good mintum, we were hard to handle. So 43 00:02:08,347 --> 00:02:11,347 Speaker 4: it's really positive around our game, plus a really good 44 00:02:11,387 --> 00:02:13,867 Speaker 4: pressure around our set piece. Obviously, I think we can 45 00:02:13,987 --> 00:02:17,347 Speaker 4: be really proud and confident of what our scrum and 46 00:02:17,387 --> 00:02:20,587 Speaker 4: also our driving all gave us and this test. So 47 00:02:20,627 --> 00:02:25,347 Speaker 4: that's definitely really positive platforms to work off. Jason Ryan 48 00:02:25,427 --> 00:02:27,707 Speaker 4: doing a great job there for us, So a lot 49 00:02:27,707 --> 00:02:30,747 Speaker 4: of positives around that. What that gave us even working 50 00:02:30,747 --> 00:02:32,587 Speaker 4: into the second half and we needed to find a 51 00:02:32,587 --> 00:02:34,907 Speaker 4: bit of momentum. Just their ability to go to our 52 00:02:34,947 --> 00:02:37,307 Speaker 4: forwards and go boys give us what we needed and 53 00:02:37,347 --> 00:02:38,627 Speaker 4: they did a great job for us. 54 00:02:38,907 --> 00:02:42,387 Speaker 2: Yeah, the set piece stats are really impressive. You want 55 00:02:42,427 --> 00:02:44,947 Speaker 2: all your line outs and a bunch of theirs as 56 00:02:44,987 --> 00:02:49,787 Speaker 2: well as scrum was strong, what was the reason for 57 00:02:49,867 --> 00:02:51,827 Speaker 2: the really good set piece showing in this one in 58 00:02:51,867 --> 00:02:52,307 Speaker 2: your mind? 59 00:02:53,467 --> 00:02:56,667 Speaker 4: We've got a good pack. We've got a good pack 60 00:02:56,747 --> 00:03:01,947 Speaker 4: that we're understood tonight. There's the end of the Test 61 00:03:01,987 --> 00:03:03,987 Speaker 4: match when we needed to play pressure in the air, 62 00:03:04,307 --> 00:03:06,347 Speaker 4: especially to them all in the corner, which is essentially 63 00:03:06,427 --> 00:03:09,947 Speaker 4: with us working to save that bonus point and affords it. 64 00:03:09,987 --> 00:03:13,027 Speaker 4: A fantastic job there applying the pressure in the air 65 00:03:13,107 --> 00:03:16,667 Speaker 4: and well led from the group Scooter Barrett coming back 66 00:03:16,667 --> 00:03:20,587 Speaker 4: from injury and getting his fifty minutes in so in 67 00:03:20,707 --> 00:03:24,427 Speaker 4: some rotation and then with our substitutions coming on early 68 00:03:24,467 --> 00:03:27,187 Speaker 4: and just feeling the game. So a lot of real 69 00:03:27,267 --> 00:03:31,067 Speaker 4: positives there around what we can build off. 70 00:03:31,827 --> 00:03:33,747 Speaker 2: You alluded to it there, but just to confirm Scott 71 00:03:33,747 --> 00:03:36,227 Speaker 2: Barrett was on managed minutes on his return. 72 00:03:36,547 --> 00:03:40,627 Speaker 4: Was he oh, not so much managed because he's All 73 00:03:40,667 --> 00:03:43,987 Speaker 4: Black captain. We needed to do what we needed to do. 74 00:03:44,027 --> 00:03:45,987 Speaker 4: We just fell for him because he's come back and 75 00:03:45,987 --> 00:03:47,987 Speaker 4: he's been out of the game a little bit. It's 76 00:03:48,027 --> 00:03:50,147 Speaker 4: just important that we set him up well for the season. 77 00:03:50,187 --> 00:03:53,147 Speaker 4: We're going well at that time and the. 78 00:03:53,067 --> 00:03:53,947 Speaker 3: Call was too. 79 00:03:54,667 --> 00:03:57,067 Speaker 4: We felt the momentum was there and obviously we're going 80 00:03:57,107 --> 00:03:59,907 Speaker 4: to look at that and say, well, okay, when could 81 00:03:59,907 --> 00:04:03,147 Speaker 4: have have been managed possibly differently, but at that time 82 00:04:03,587 --> 00:04:04,707 Speaker 4: for us, it was the right call. 83 00:04:06,187 --> 00:04:09,587 Speaker 2: You see an improvement from the French series and your 84 00:04:09,627 --> 00:04:12,667 Speaker 2: team in key areas today. 85 00:04:13,347 --> 00:04:17,147 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we continue to improve. Is again around 86 00:04:17,147 --> 00:04:20,147 Speaker 4: our cpiece, defensive in the middle of the field. At 87 00:04:20,267 --> 00:04:26,187 Speaker 4: some stages there collision wise really good. There's always areas 88 00:04:26,187 --> 00:04:27,827 Speaker 4: we want to be better in and we'll go in. 89 00:04:27,907 --> 00:04:31,267 Speaker 4: And the thing with the boys coming in the shit 90 00:04:31,347 --> 00:04:33,747 Speaker 4: Jason was a lot of them said straight away, okay, well, 91 00:04:34,107 --> 00:04:36,827 Speaker 4: obviously Monday's review is going to show us this. But 92 00:04:37,107 --> 00:04:38,747 Speaker 4: what we have to acknowledge also is a lot of 93 00:04:38,867 --> 00:04:41,827 Speaker 4: positives and when we use the ball on our terms, 94 00:04:42,547 --> 00:04:46,107 Speaker 4: when we use our skill set well, as we discussed earlier, 95 00:04:46,107 --> 00:04:49,147 Speaker 4: we were hard to manage. So we're really happy to 96 00:04:50,387 --> 00:04:52,987 Speaker 4: leave Cordova with the bonus point and what's going to 97 00:04:52,987 --> 00:04:54,427 Speaker 4: be a really challenging competition. 98 00:04:55,587 --> 00:04:58,307 Speaker 2: So what will this do in terms of your selection 99 00:04:58,387 --> 00:05:01,027 Speaker 2: for the second test? The fact that you've won taken 100 00:05:01,027 --> 00:05:03,027 Speaker 2: the bonus point, will that give you the opportunity to 101 00:05:03,747 --> 00:05:05,987 Speaker 2: tinker a bit or with this being the only test 102 00:05:05,987 --> 00:05:07,787 Speaker 2: now before, will you get back for that massive one 103 00:05:08,107 --> 00:05:10,307 Speaker 2: against South Africa and Auckland, will you look to roll 104 00:05:10,347 --> 00:05:12,227 Speaker 2: out your strongest side again? 105 00:05:14,067 --> 00:05:16,987 Speaker 4: Oh, first and foremost, we'll grab the group and we'll 106 00:05:16,987 --> 00:05:18,667 Speaker 4: see where the our health wise is. One or two 107 00:05:18,707 --> 00:05:23,827 Speaker 4: boards have taken. It was a tough test physically, speaking 108 00:05:23,867 --> 00:05:27,787 Speaker 4: to the boys Pabliamentary in the luck, it was a 109 00:05:27,827 --> 00:05:32,707 Speaker 4: tough physical test. So we'll we gather tomorrow morning. 110 00:05:32,467 --> 00:05:34,987 Speaker 3: We'll see where we're at. We'll look forward to next 111 00:05:34,987 --> 00:05:38,627 Speaker 3: week and we'll as we always do, select the group 112 00:05:38,667 --> 00:05:40,507 Speaker 3: that we feel is going to give us the best 113 00:05:40,547 --> 00:05:44,667 Speaker 3: opportunity against what's going to be Argentina in our next test. 114 00:05:45,467 --> 00:05:48,987 Speaker 2: You Withdrew Cortez Latma after fifty minutes. Can you give 115 00:05:49,027 --> 00:05:50,107 Speaker 2: us the thought process there? 116 00:05:51,627 --> 00:05:54,147 Speaker 4: Oh, we had a good momentum into that stage. We 117 00:05:54,227 --> 00:05:57,027 Speaker 4: felt getting finlay On would give us what we needed 118 00:05:57,067 --> 00:05:59,787 Speaker 4: around that. We've also got to get some get him 119 00:05:59,787 --> 00:06:01,667 Speaker 4: into our game. Also, he's had. 120 00:06:01,587 --> 00:06:03,947 Speaker 3: A really good work with us. 121 00:06:03,947 --> 00:06:06,827 Speaker 4: He's got a great relationship with Body barrett a team, 122 00:06:06,987 --> 00:06:10,987 Speaker 4: so we're really confident with that decision. Cortez gave us 123 00:06:11,587 --> 00:06:13,707 Speaker 4: some good energy and playing that game. It was just 124 00:06:13,707 --> 00:06:15,507 Speaker 4: an opportunity of that time to get for me On. 125 00:06:16,147 --> 00:06:19,347 Speaker 4: Now he's got some minutes on the jersey, he's a 126 00:06:19,387 --> 00:06:22,867 Speaker 4: way more comfortable around that game, so we're happy with 127 00:06:22,947 --> 00:06:24,227 Speaker 4: what it did for him. 128 00:06:24,627 --> 00:06:26,427 Speaker 2: The wind takes you back to number one in the world, 129 00:06:26,547 --> 00:06:29,107 Speaker 2: Scott for the first time since November twenty twenty one. 130 00:06:29,147 --> 00:06:32,187 Speaker 2: I know it's not probably not a key motivator for you, 131 00:06:32,267 --> 00:06:34,307 Speaker 2: but is it a source of pride to be back 132 00:06:34,347 --> 00:06:36,147 Speaker 2: at the top of the world rankings? 133 00:06:38,427 --> 00:06:41,307 Speaker 4: Sorry, I didn't know that. It's not something we've spoken 134 00:06:41,347 --> 00:06:43,827 Speaker 4: about this week. What we're spraining about is winning this test. 135 00:06:43,907 --> 00:06:46,307 Speaker 4: But if that's the case in here. We should be 136 00:06:46,347 --> 00:06:50,347 Speaker 4: proud of that because what that's showing is that we're 137 00:06:51,667 --> 00:06:55,587 Speaker 4: working well, we're growing, and we're a team that honest 138 00:06:55,667 --> 00:06:58,627 Speaker 4: day can be the best in the world. So you know, 139 00:06:58,667 --> 00:07:02,147 Speaker 4: I think we should be positive and out of that 140 00:07:02,227 --> 00:07:02,667 Speaker 4: as a nation. 141 00:07:03,627 --> 00:07:05,507 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the fact you didn't know probably answers 142 00:07:05,547 --> 00:07:08,627 Speaker 2: the question. But yeah, it's a nice little byproduct of 143 00:07:08,667 --> 00:07:11,227 Speaker 2: the victory this morning and just before you go, you 144 00:07:11,347 --> 00:07:12,987 Speaker 2: probably haven't had the chance to watch it yet, but 145 00:07:12,987 --> 00:07:14,627 Speaker 2: what did you make of the news out of Johannesburg 146 00:07:14,627 --> 00:07:19,427 Speaker 2: Wallaby's thirty eight spring box twenty two unbelievable? 147 00:07:20,507 --> 00:07:24,387 Speaker 4: Unbelievable. I watched the first half. We had meetings in 148 00:07:24,427 --> 00:07:28,027 Speaker 4: the second half and I thought the South Africans were 149 00:07:28,067 --> 00:07:34,187 Speaker 4: dominant in the first half. A great test from the 150 00:07:34,227 --> 00:07:37,707 Speaker 4: South Africans and then to hear the result of the 151 00:07:37,747 --> 00:07:41,547 Speaker 4: second half, that's fully there's nothing guaranteed around Test match footy. 152 00:07:42,427 --> 00:07:45,787 Speaker 4: Obviously the Wallabies have gone at a half time, they've 153 00:07:45,867 --> 00:07:49,947 Speaker 4: been clear, calm. There was opportunities in the first half, 154 00:07:49,987 --> 00:07:53,227 Speaker 4: but they've stayed there. Listening to guys that have watched 155 00:07:53,227 --> 00:07:55,907 Speaker 4: the game, it sounds like they were really resilient, defensively, 156 00:07:56,827 --> 00:08:02,987 Speaker 4: took some moments long long field position in regards to 157 00:08:03,027 --> 00:08:07,067 Speaker 4: try it is having to work for a distance. I 158 00:08:07,067 --> 00:08:09,067 Speaker 4: spoke to Ardie about it and we've both said, well 159 00:08:09,147 --> 00:08:11,627 Speaker 4: that's test footy and there's nothing guaranteed in it. So 160 00:08:12,147 --> 00:08:14,227 Speaker 4: well on to the Wallabies and it's going to be 161 00:08:14,227 --> 00:08:16,547 Speaker 4: a fantastic competition in the Rugby Championship. 162 00:08:17,187 --> 00:08:20,147 Speaker 2: Well onto the All Blacks as well, Scott, enjoy this result, 163 00:08:20,187 --> 00:08:21,667 Speaker 2: all the best for a great week ahead as you're 164 00:08:21,667 --> 00:08:24,027 Speaker 2: prepared for Buenos Aires. Thanks for joining us across New 165 00:08:24,107 --> 00:08:24,867 Speaker 2: Zealand on ZEDBY. 166 00:08:25,947 --> 00:08:28,907 Speaker 4: Thank you, mate, really appreciate that. Thank you, Jason, all. 167 00:08:28,827 --> 00:08:30,787 Speaker 2: The best, Scott, Thank you indeed, Scott Hanson. They're joining 168 00:08:30,867 --> 00:08:33,267 Speaker 2: us from as you can probably hear, just outside the 169 00:08:33,347 --> 00:08:36,467 Speaker 2: changing sheds in Cord Dooba where the All Blacks have 170 00:08:36,787 --> 00:08:40,267 Speaker 2: achieved victory by forty one points to twenty four. We 171 00:08:40,307 --> 00:08:42,427 Speaker 2: wanted to get to Scott Hanson pretty much straight away. 172 00:08:43,107 --> 00:08:46,267 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine. Listen live 173 00:08:46,387 --> 00:08:49,787 Speaker 1: to News Talk ZEDB weekends from midday or follow the 174 00:08:49,827 --> 00:08:51,267 Speaker 1: podcast on iHeartRadio.