1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: Arrest yesterday the fame broadcast Rellen Jones in Australia was 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: both a shock and if you've followed the story really 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: for decades, perhaps not a surprise at all. By the 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: end of the day he was released but charged twenty 5 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,319 Speaker 1: four offenses against eight alledged victims. Sidney reporter for the 6 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: Today Show, Jack Harnes with us Jack morning, Good morning 7 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: to you. 8 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 2: Mike. Guess there's certainly a polarizing and powerful figure here 9 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 2: in Australia that really cannot be understated. So look, this 10 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 2: news not necessarily a surprise to some, but probably a 11 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 2: shock to many, just given the nature of the charges 12 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 2: and the way that I unfolded yesterday. 13 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: And interesting the level of resource and over many, many 14 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: months the police have put into it. So I mean 15 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: this has presumably been coming for some time. 16 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, So a nine month investigation, a special strike force 17 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,319 Speaker 2: was set up by the State Police here in New 18 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 2: South Wales. Some of the best and brightest detectives put 19 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: on the cave. Many of those detectives were attached to 20 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 2: the child abuse Squad and we saw all of that 21 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 2: resource on display yesterday when they raided his twenty million 22 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: dollar Australian dollar apartment block at Circular Key. It's nicknamed 23 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: the Toaster Building, overlook the Harbor, the Harbor Bridge and 24 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,839 Speaker 2: the Opera House, and yesterday it was swarming with about 25 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: a dozen detectives carrying out a search warren to those 26 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 2: detectives telling us that Alan Jones was calm, He of 27 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 2: course requested his legal team and they were there very 28 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 2: very quickly, speaking with detectives carrying out that search warrant. 29 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 2: And then after about four or five hours, he was 30 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 2: whisked away in an underground car park in the back 31 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 2: of an unmarked police car. Driving away. He was stony 32 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: faced at times. He was in a green jacket and 33 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 2: taken to a city police station where he was formerly 34 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: charged and as you mentioned, twenty four offenses he's now facing. 35 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: I read a book twenty years ago called Jonestown by 36 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: a guy called Chris Masters, and the allegations, or some 37 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: of them at least, were in that book. Why did 38 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: the police take nun till twenty twenty four. 39 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 2: To do anything, Well, that's a very good question. Look, 40 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 2: some of the reporting that has come out more recently, 41 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 2: particularly in December of last year. Yesterday, some we've seen 42 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: your police are saying, look, that reporting helped. It didn't 43 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 2: necessarily helping the investigation, because obviously when you're doing a 44 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 2: police investigation, you need to obtain evidence that can be 45 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 2: used in court beyond a reasonable doubt. But what that 46 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 2: reporting did yesterday last year, I should say, it put 47 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 2: this conversation back in the public spotlight, and it empowered victims, 48 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 2: according to police, to come forward to tell their story 49 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 2: to detective to help to help them form this brief 50 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,679 Speaker 2: of evidence. So really, yeah, as I've mentioned there, over 51 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: the last twelve months or so, there's been new reporting 52 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 2: that has put this back in, these allegations back into 53 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 2: the public spotlight, and police have said that that has 54 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 2: helped and empowered victims to come through because they have 55 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 2: said that it's a very difficult journey for a victim, 56 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,119 Speaker 2: particularly with this historical nature of the allegations, to come 57 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 2: forward perhaps ten or twenty years after these incidents and 58 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 2: tell their stories. But that's allegedly what these victims have 59 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 2: done and will obviously hear their stories play out when 60 00:02:59,120 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: the court process. 61 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: Appreciate your time, Jack, Jack Hahn. He's back in court 62 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: December eighteen. Is Ellen Jones. He of course, as he's 63 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: done all these years, pled not guilty to all of it, 64 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: so it'll be fascinated and follow the trial given that 65 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: historically it's not only a difficult journey for the alleged 66 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: victims to tell, but of course the evidence issue in 67 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: a court setting will be interesting to follow as well. 68 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: For more from the mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 69 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: news talks it'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 70 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.