1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,320 Speaker 1: Well it's over. I'm a tried to tell you the 2 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: government's pulled the pen early on the Ministry Real Advisory 3 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: Group into retail crime. Three of the five were gone anyway. 4 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: As we talked to Goldsmith on the show about the 5 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:10,159 Speaker 1: other day anyway, Sunny Kerschel is the cheer of all 6 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: of this and thes were a sunny morning to you. 7 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 2: Very good morning, Mike. 8 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: Were you done any way basically or was there more 9 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: to do? Do you think? 10 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 2: Look, there's more to do, but I'm very relaxed about 11 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 2: the mad wrapping up in May. You know, I'm very 12 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 2: proud of the progress achieved in the quality of policy 13 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 2: work produced and we're getting strong appreciation from retailers and 14 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 2: the police across New Zealand. Insect the retailers, they finally 15 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 2: feel heard. So to tell you, we have delivered our 16 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 2: work much faster than expected. We have delivered five high 17 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 2: quality reports last year and those are major reform packages. 18 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 2: And currently as we speak, we are working on a 19 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 2: few last reports which we were delivered before May, and 20 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 2: that was always our plan and in truth the mag 21 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 2: would have been winding down at this stage anyway. 22 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: Just to be clear, the three that are gone two 23 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: had gone to other jobs. Carolyn was the only problem 24 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 1: is that fear or not over. The other two didn't 25 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: like you either. 26 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 2: No, see, the other two were really good, but they 27 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 2: moved because of their promotions in their work and in 28 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: terms of Carolyn. Look, I'm not upset how things went down. 29 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 2: I'm focused on delivering outcomes for victims and I'm not 30 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 2: interested in the mag becoming a talk fest focused on frameworks. 31 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: And I'm not responded to her public commands because I'm 32 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 2: focused on getting the job done and not getting distracted 33 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 2: by ego. 34 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: What do you say to Ginny Anderson who said these 35 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: are all your ideas, you gave them for free anyway, 36 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: and half of them are dangerous. 37 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, see, it's inconsequential what hardworking Kiwis are hearing from 38 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 2: Jenny's only highlighting her failures just past your mind. Three 39 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 2: years ago, it used to be the news full of violence, 40 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: ram rates and aggravated robberies. Lawlessness had gripped the entire nation. 41 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 2: Retail crime was double under Labour's watch when Ginny was 42 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 2: the police minister. She has not introduced any solution, not 43 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 2: supported any safety measure. She has been all talks but 44 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 2: nothing her own cliques have different view The problem with 45 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 2: Jenny Mike is she is running with the white flag. 46 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 2: She accepts crime, she accepts violence, and she wants nothing done. 47 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: Nice to talk to you, Sunny, go well, Sunny Cashel See. 48 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: I like Sonny, I like Carolyn, so I'm sort of 49 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: making them saf I would have been the ideal person 50 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: to be on that committee because I'm a lover, not 51 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: a fighter. I'm a peacemaker. For more from the Mic 52 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: Asking Breakfast, listen live to news talks. 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