1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: International correspondence with ins and eye insurance, peace of mind 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: for New Zealand business. What're we going? 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 2: Really? 4 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: Good morning to you, Good morning, my couldn't speak to again. 5 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 2: And to you too. The two percent inflation figure we 6 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 2: had a little cat from Rashid. He was all already 7 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 2: needs every bit of good news he can possibly get 8 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: his hands on. But I think the Bank of England 9 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 2: and cutting tomorrow. Do people pay attention to the inflation 10 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 2: in that Yeah, they've made it kind of way. 11 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 1: Not at all. I don't think this is going to 12 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 1: make the slightest bit of difference to the cost of 13 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: living crisis here. Look, it's better than what it was 14 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: two years ago when Russia started its illegal war in Ukraine. 15 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: Inflation here hit eleven percent. Energy bills went through the roof. 16 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: Then we had the Liz Truss memorable six weeks where 17 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: mortgage rates are still high and people are still paying 18 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: for that fiasco. I don't think inflation coming down to 19 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: two percent is going to matter a jot to anyone. 20 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: The feeling is that, you know, prices are still going up. Though, 21 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: to be fair to Sunak, he did say that one 22 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: of his core pledges a year ago. Judge me on 23 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: the five things he said, and one of them was 24 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: that he would get inflation down to two percent, and 25 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: he has done that. 26 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 2: Okay, So the other side of the equation, of course, 27 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 2: these boat people, I think, well, what do you reckon 28 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 2: speculate with us? If Rishie had said I'm going to 29 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 2: stop the boats and they're not going to come to 30 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 2: this country anymore, and he had done it, would it 31 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 2: have made any difference? 32 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: Again, I think people are so angry and the cost 33 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: of living crisis, fourteen years of a conservative party that 34 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 1: appears to have run out of not only road but 35 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: ideas and leadership. I think stopping the boats wouldn't even 36 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: have shifted the dial maybe one or two percentage points. 37 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: As it stands. The figure that we got today for 38 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: yesterday's illegal crossings from France, so this is twenty six 39 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: nautical miles of water from French soil to English soil. 40 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: Fifteen boats got across yesterday containing eight hundred and eighty 41 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: two people, and the bottom line for the British taxpayer 42 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: is between hotels and B and b's, we're looking at 43 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: eight million dollars en z a day being spent on 44 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: that accommodation. 45 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 2: Jeez, what to do. But then having said that, despite 46 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: the anger and I take you point, delaya have a 47 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 2: plan to stop the btes? Does anyone have a plane 48 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 2: to stop the bites? 49 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: Starmer has been reaching out to the French and he 50 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: was granted an audience with President Macron at the Elise 51 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: a couple of months ago. So behind the scenes, I 52 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: think what Labor are doing is just trying to undo 53 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: the damage that has been done to Britain's international reputation 54 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: by Brexit. They're not going to undo Brexit in the 55 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: short term. I think long term a lot of people 56 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: would like to have that referendum again. But I think 57 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: what Starmer is doing is realizing that, you know, you've 58 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: got a problem that originates ultimately on French soil. These 59 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: people want to come to the UK. How can we 60 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: stop that happening? Having better relations with your nearest neighbor 61 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: would be a good starting point. And what really struck 62 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 1: me the other week, Mike, there was a story A 63 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 1: lot of people made a big deal out of this. 64 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: Arench policeman happened upon one of these dinghies on a 65 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: beach full of people being dragged out into the sea. 66 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: He got a penknife oult and he just snuck it 67 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: in the Dinghye game over exactly. 68 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, good, all practical solution to the problem this beating 69 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 2: scandal festival. Is it a scandal or anyway, we've gotten 70 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 2: a risk, But you can't go around betting on stuff 71 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 2: you probably knew about. 72 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: Well, this is a police officer that was allegedly doing this, 73 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: one of Sunak's close protection officers from the met. Now 74 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: you can imagine, you know, traveling around with the Prime Minister, 75 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: perhaps driving him or being near him, or when he's 76 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: having coffee or when he's taking phone calls, he's obviously 77 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: heard something. So the allegation is that this serving police 78 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: officer from the Prime minister protection team has gone off 79 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: and placed the bet on the timing of the election. 80 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: If this sounds like deja vu, we did speak about 81 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: this a couple of weeks ago and was actually an 82 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: MP from the Conservative Party, Craig Williams, allegedly placing a 83 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: bet on a July election. So someone has been loose lipped. 84 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: There is an investigation into the politician. There is now 85 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: an investigation into the police officer who has been arrested 86 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: and is in a lot of hot water. 87 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 2: Just accepting in that. So I'm tapping into your expertise 88 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 2: and experience here, just accepting that the Poles are broadly speaking, 89 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 2: going to be right in the sin Slave is going 90 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 2: to win the selection. Do you believe a pole that's 91 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 2: seen the sort of movement we've seen for Farage and 92 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 2: Clacton and it's astonishing effects. Savation said it was unprecedented 93 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 2: in modern electoral history. In other words, Farage is not 94 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 2: just going to win, He's going to bolt home. 95 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: I think he will. Look he appeals to people who 96 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: voted Breggs's. He chose Clacton on Sea, which is with 97 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: the greatest of respect. It is a town that has 98 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 1: seen better days. He went there purely because that was 99 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: the biggest percentage share of vault for Brexit eight years 100 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: ago in that referendum. So he has chosen Clacton because 101 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: these are people who sing off his song sheet. They 102 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 1: like what he says about migration. He's a big character, 103 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: microphone in his face everywhere he goes. And as much 104 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,679 Speaker 1: as you get people chucking milkshakes and with cement adam 105 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: and coffee cups, microphones, ink doesn't you know, paper doesn't refuse? Ink? 106 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: And Forage comes out with the soundbites. So I think 107 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: he is a nightmare for the Conservative Party now because 108 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: people who would vote for reform are never going to 109 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: vote labor in the first place, so he's chipping away 110 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: at I think elderly Conservative voters who are sick of Sunac, 111 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: sick of the Conservatives and don't believe their right wing enough, 112 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: and incomes Nigel Forage to save the day, as it were. 113 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: The Poles are predicting that he will get elected at 114 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: the eighth time of asking. Remember he's run for Parliament 115 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: here seven times before and has failed seven times. The 116 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: Poles are predicting the Forage wins Clacton on Sea, which 117 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: is a safe Conservative seat gun and he will also 118 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: pick up four other seats with his party. Now, the 119 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 1: problem long term for the Conservatives is this puts him 120 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: in the House of Commons. It gives him an even 121 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: bigger platform. Will call it a mandate. Does he then 122 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: try to in vague his way into the Conservative Party 123 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 1: and take over. 124 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is what makes it so fascinating. Those idiots 125 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 2: at Stonehenge. I mean they really stop oil people. Are 126 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 2: they just the kids who've got nothing be able to do? 127 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 2: And then we just wander around the world spry stuff 128 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 2: these days. 129 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,799 Speaker 1: It's shocking. I mean, Stonehenge is five thousand years old, 130 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: five thousand years old. Those stones were sourced from a 131 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: quarry in South Wales, which is a hell of a 132 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: long way to lug stones that big to a field 133 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: in Wiltshire. It is beautiful, it is breathtaking. There's a 134 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: mystique around Stonehenge. I've been there filming, I've been there 135 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: as a tourist, and I've been there at the crack 136 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: of dawn watching the sun come up, and it is 137 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: just beautiful. Why anyone would want to go and attack them. 138 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: So they're saying, now just stop oil. That it was 139 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: corn powder and it will wash off. The damage is done. 140 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: You know, tourists made. One is Shudent from Oxford. I 141 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: think she's nineteen or twenty. They're saying that they made 142 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: the point today that whoever is Prime Minister on July fifth, 143 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: when the election is over the next morning, whether it's 144 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: Sunak again or Starmer, comes in, that we need to 145 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: stop our reliance on fossil fuels. But the end result 146 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: is a national treasure being desecrated. Really pretty shameful stuff. 147 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 2: Exactly they've got no respect in the good to see 148 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 2: yep in the right out of Brittany's back next Thursday 149 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 2: on The Mike Hosking Breakfast, Day forty five. 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