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Speaker 1: All Blacks. I've made seven changes to the team that

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Speaker 1: will take on Australia and Perth on Saturday night. Captain

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Speaker 1: Scott Barrett is back from a shoulder injury to Mighty Williams,

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Speaker 1: Fletcher new Well, Damien McKenzie, Leicestifying and Nuku That are

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Speaker 1: all in as well Liam Naby as the Herald's rugby

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Speaker 1: correspondent in Perth and with.

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Speaker 2: Us now Hayleam evening Heather.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what's the mood ahead of the Test.

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Speaker 2: It's certainly interesting.

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Speaker 3: Scott Robinson's sprung some selection surprises there, Quinta Pie in

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Speaker 3: at center hasn't played there for five years for the Chiefs,

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Speaker 3: and leicesterifying and Nook who playing his first game for

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Speaker 3: the All Blacks in two years after spending two years

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Speaker 3: in France.

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Speaker 2: So look, the All Blacks is searching for consistency. They've

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Speaker 2: gone win loss, win, loss.

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Speaker 3: Win, and to try and break that trend, Robinson's turn

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Speaker 3: to some freshness and some players that we haven't seen

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Speaker 3: too much of this year.

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Speaker 1: Okay, are you worried about d mac.

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Speaker 3: Not rarely No, he I think he's been waiting long

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Speaker 3: time for this chance. He started the first eight tests

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Speaker 3: of Scott Robinson's tenure last year. He's only had one

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Speaker 3: start at ten this year. But I think Perth should

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Speaker 3: suit him. It should be an open, expansive game. The

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Speaker 3: Wallabies give the All Blacks a lot more freedom to play,

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Speaker 3: so I think this game will suit him. But I

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Speaker 3: am worried about the Wallabies. I think they'll respond. They

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Speaker 3: get Will Skelton, Rob Valentini and some real big bodies

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Speaker 3: back in their forward pack, so I'm nervous about what

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Speaker 3: they could bring.

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Speaker 1: What specifically makes you feel nervous.

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Speaker 3: Well, the All Blacks form, for one, They've really struggled

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Speaker 3: to put back to back performances together this year. And

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Speaker 3: Joe Schmitt is an incredibly savvy coach. And I think

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Speaker 3: we saw last week that the Wallabies are a different team.

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Speaker 3: They've got a depth of character and resilience about them.

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Speaker 3: They didn't go away. They came back within two points

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Speaker 3: of the All Blacks at Eaton Park, at their fortress.

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Speaker 3: So coming home get some players back, I think they'll

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Speaker 3: bring a lot of confidence into this week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, now, Scott barrett Is back shoulder injury can't

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Speaker 1: have been that bad, can it?

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Speaker 2: No? No, it wasn't it was only mine.

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Speaker 3: I think he tried pushed pretty hard to play last

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Speaker 3: week but was ruled out on the Tuesday of the

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Speaker 3: eden Park Test. So he comes back and regains the captaincy.

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Speaker 3: So interesting to see how he comes back because Ardie

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Speaker 3: led the team really well at eden Park, very inspirational

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Speaker 3: turnover at one point. There's been a bit of discussion

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Speaker 3: around the All Blacks captaincy, so I think Scott will

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Speaker 3: be looking for a big performance. He tends to get

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Speaker 3: up for the Wallabies. A couple of years ago, Nick

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Speaker 3: White and him had a bit of a toe to

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Speaker 3: toe and he put his finger on his mouth and

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Speaker 3: told him to shush.

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Speaker 2: So it could be a bit of a niggle this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now theres as you point out, there has been

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Speaker 1: a fair bit of chat about who should be the captain.

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Speaker 1: It has been a fair chat bit of chat about

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Speaker 1: whether Razor is the right guy to be the coach.

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Speaker 1: Are they hearing this stuff? Is this weighing on them?

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Speaker 2: They certainly hear it. Yep, they'll tell you that they don't.

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Speaker 3: They don't read the media, they don't hear the media,

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Speaker 3: they don't listen to people on the street. But they'll

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Speaker 3: be well aware of it, and they're aware of their

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Speaker 3: own frustrations, their own struggles, and they certainly demand more

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Speaker 3: of themselves. So they need a big performance this weekend

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Speaker 3: because the spring boxer and the box seat. To claim

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Speaker 3: the Rugby Championship title, the All Blacks need a bonus

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Speaker 3: point victory and they to score three more tries than

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Speaker 3: the Wallabies to have any hope of regaining that trophy.

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Speaker 3: So the All Blacks have everything to prove.

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Speaker 1: Brilliant, Liam, look after yourself, Thanks very much man. That's

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Speaker 1: Liam Napier, Rugby correspondent. Of course, you can listen to

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Speaker 1: Elliot Smith and the commentary team right here on News

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