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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's Ryan

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Speaker 1: Bridge on hither dupiles Ellen Drey with one New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Coverage like no one else.

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Speaker 3: New saug said, be good afternoon, six after four. Great

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Speaker 3: to have your company hither away today. I'm filling in

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Speaker 3: Coming up on the show. Chris bushop reckons he can

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Speaker 3: drivers after a landmark Supreme Court ruling esbestos in your

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Speaker 3: kids play sand? Doesn't sound great, does it? Plus con

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Speaker 3: buyout deal is off, Ryan Bridge. These poles that keep

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Speaker 3: showing laborhead a National a sign of well, how crap

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Speaker 3: Voters are never stupid, and they're voting for a no

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Speaker 3: for them. Now, Labour has some policies, albeit three, but

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Speaker 3: they include the contentious one, the capital gains tax, and

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Speaker 3: So now that Labor has policies confirming they are indeed

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Speaker 3: It's nine minutes after four on your Monday afternoon. If

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Speaker 3: you've got kids who play with colored sand, listen up.

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Speaker 3: Seven different magic sand products have now been recalled because

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Speaker 3: it turns out they might actually contain asbestos. The products

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Speaker 3: are Kmart, Blue, Pink and Green Magic Sand. Some schools

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Speaker 3: asbestos specialists. Ian Kaplan is MB product safety spokesperson on

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Speaker 3: the line. Ian Good afternoon, Hi Rayan, So what is this?

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Speaker 3: How dangerous is this sand product?

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, everyone is working through this speed

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Speaker 4: schools and early learning centers and kids are involved. So

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Speaker 3: So have you tested one, betch and it's come up

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Speaker 4: So testing is continuing. There have been what what triggered

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Speaker 4: a voluntary product recall for those. Testing has happened here

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Speaker 4: for this kmart sand and again that's come up, so

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Speaker 4: we've responded to that, but we're continuing to get testing

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Speaker 3: If you have kids at home who play with the stuff,

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Speaker 4: Of course, I'm a dad. If you've got kids at home,

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Speaker 4: Exposure is a long term thing. People don't need to

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Speaker 3: Got that's all great, But if how likely is it

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Speaker 3: been exposed to a spestos in a dangerous form, Well.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, so we're looking at the whole context. We're going

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Speaker 3: It fine enough that that's being ingested into the kid's system.

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Speaker 4: Where we're not in a position to talk about that

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Speaker 4: So the process and Health New Zealand advice is to

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Speaker 4: No, this isn't this isn't this isn't a wastepin job,

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Speaker 3: No one can throw it on the burn, double bag

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Speaker 3: time as fourteen after four by double begging and taking away.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't sound great, does it? If the kids playing in it,

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Speaker 3: just say, bugger it, we're pulling pin. Well, we're getting

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Speaker 3: close to that point, Mills said, not quite ready to

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Speaker 3: Four eighteen News TALKSB. Someone says, Ryan, why kids even

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Speaker 3: playing with colored sand? It's a question I asked this

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Speaker 5: Yeah, as are the text you're getting. The ones I

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Speaker 3: Well and hopefully it'll turn itself around. Now Silver Ferns England,

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Speaker 3: Say, for beef, it goes back to what do we know?

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Speaker 3: Four twenty five. Great to have your company now a

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Speaker 3: couple of government bits for you. The ETS carbon price

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Speaker 1: The day's newsmakers talk to Ryan first, Ryan Bridge on

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Speaker 3: Here is coming twenty five away from five year on

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Speaker 3: We'll look at this Uber decision as well. Their employees

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Speaker 2: It's the worlds on.

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Speaker 3: Trumps blown up. Responsible Trump has blown up another drug

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Speaker 10: Well, obviously it does look like people are positioning themselves

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Speaker 3: Finally, this afternoon, a flamingo has escaped from a zoo

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Speaker 3: Oli Peterson with us this afternoon six PR Live, perth Oi.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon, Yet a Ryan. Fifteen thousand knives seized by

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Speaker 3: Victoria police across the year. That's a hell of a lot.

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Speaker 11: What are we talking Well, if you put it in

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Speaker 11: this context, that's almost fifty knives and machetes taken off

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Speaker 11: hundred and eight weapons were taken off streets in Victoria

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Speaker 3: It's just not a good advertisement to the rest of.

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Speaker 11: The world that Victoria has got such a issue with crime.

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Speaker 11: But how's that almost fifty taken off the streets every.

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Speaker 3: Day, So hell of a lot. Now the coalition we've

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Speaker 11: So obviously they've got the decide they're not going to

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Speaker 11: in the last week of federal Parliament. But why do

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Speaker 11: and ever are men, but it's just not the time.

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Speaker 11: You just wouldn't be making a change at the moment.

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Speaker 11: So I don't think that will eventuate. Having said that,

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Speaker 3: Finally, what's going on with your pedestrian crossings? Onlie?

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Speaker 12: Well, this is interesting.

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Speaker 11: Have you got AI in New Zealand or that hasn't come?

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Speaker 3: Sorry? Ryan, We've got the internet. We've got the internet

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Speaker 11: All right, good because there's nothing more and I'm sure

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Speaker 11: plenty of Kiwis would love catching the ferry from Circular

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Speaker 11: over to the corso that is probably the jaywalk capital

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Speaker 4: I need to get to the beach.

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Speaker 11: But what they've done now with these set of traffic

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Speaker 11: they're giving pedestrians a greater opportunity.

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Speaker 3: To cross the road.

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Speaker 12: They're saying this could be it.

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Speaker 11: We could roll out thermal cameras and AI to every

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Speaker 11: our growing death toll at the moment, which is relating

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Speaker 11: to pedestrian death.

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Speaker 3: Seriroon. So there you go, right, Oli, Thank you for that.

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Speaker 3: Oli from Oli Pedterson six per per live. It's nineteen

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Speaker 3: away from five Bryan Bridge to the US we go.

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Speaker 3: Marjorie Taylor Green. This is the Maga woman, the blonde woman.

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Speaker 3: She's got like peroxide blonde here with a Maga hat on.

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Speaker 3: You will know the one that I'm talking about.

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Speaker 6: We're going to reelect our favorite president, the greatest president

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Speaker 6: in the United States history.

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Speaker 13: Donald J.

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Speaker 2: Trump.

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Speaker 3: Her relationship not so cozy with Trump anymore because of Epstein,

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Speaker 3: she wants the files released. He up until a few

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Speaker 3: minutes ago, didn't want the files released and said this

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Speaker 3: about poor old Marjorie Taylor Green.

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Speaker 13: On Saturday, President Trump blasted his one time staunch maga

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Speaker 13: ally representative Marjorie Taylor Green, calling her Marjorie Trader Green

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Speaker 13: any true social post, one day after referring to her

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Speaker 13: as a ranting lunatic in another.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, So that Trump's now done a truth social post

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Speaker 3: in the last couple of minutes, in which he has

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Speaker 3: said House Republicans should vote to release the Epstein files

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Speaker 3: because we have nothing to hide. So, after all, why

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Speaker 3: drag this anyway? The votes have next week, and well,

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Speaker 3: if Trump gets his wish, we will all know what's

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Speaker 3: in this twenty one thousand pages apparently of documents to

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Speaker 3: sift through, and this dead pedophile who's dominating news cycles

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Speaker 3: long after he's left this left the earth. That will

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Speaker 3: continue next week and we'll get a whole bunch more

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Speaker 3: documents released apparently eighteen to five Barry Soper next.

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Speaker 1: Politics with Centrics Credit check your customers and get payments

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Speaker 3: Five Barries sober here Verry, Good afternoon, good afternoon, right,

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Speaker 3: good to see. So the clean car standard thing is

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Speaker 3: getting the boot or getting drastically reduced.

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Speaker 14: What is getting drastically reduced in the short term over

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Speaker 14: the next two years, and then they're having a review

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Speaker 14: in that time. But in the meantime it'll be reduced dramatically,

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Speaker 14: so it means that a lot of money will be

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Speaker 14: saved in credits and importers of cars. And this is

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Speaker 14: what it's all about really. The law was introduced in

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Speaker 14: twenty three with the aim of encouraging New Zealanders to

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Speaker 14: buy more fuel efficient cars and reduce emissions. Well, the

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Speaker 14: transportment is to Chris Bishop. He says the charges aren't

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Speaker 14: working other than driving the price up, so he's wasting

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Speaker 14: no time, I've got to say, and making the changes.

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Speaker 7: It has estimated these changes will avoid two hundred and

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Speaker 7: sixty four million dollars in net charges that could have

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Speaker 7: been passed on to New Zealand consumers through high vehicle prices.

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Speaker 7: And if there's one number to remember, that is the

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Speaker 7: number that if we don't act, there will be two

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Speaker 7: hundred and sixty four million dollars in net charges that

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Speaker 7: could have and likely will be passed on to New

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Speaker 7: Zealanders through higher vehicle prices. So the changes we are

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Speaker 7: announcing today will be law by the end of the

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Speaker 7: week and that will provide certainty to importers and ultimately

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Speaker 7: to New Zealand consumers.

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Speaker 3: I'm making all right, Well, we'll ask Chris Bishop about that.

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Speaker 3: He's on the show. We'll ask more about that then. Now, IPSOS,

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Speaker 3: the latest poll is not great for Nationalism.

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Speaker 14: No, it's terrible actually when you consider that the same

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Speaker 14: sort of pole was the cost of living remains the

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Speaker 14: most serious issue facing the public. But when they did

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Speaker 14: a similar poll when National came to power last time,

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Speaker 14: in fact, the figures were reversed. That of the twenty

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Speaker 14: top issues, National claim the fifteen top, whereas Labor were

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Speaker 14: claimed could claim not even five with the coalition partners.

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Speaker 14: Now the figures have been reversed, so the coalition government

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Speaker 14: has only claimed fifteen, well, in fact, five of the

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Speaker 14: top places that they can be relied on. So I

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Speaker 14: think Chris, certainly, Chris Luxon was you know, he'll be

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Speaker 14: very worried about this law and order and foreign affairs.

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Speaker 14: They are the only two that National score above.

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Speaker 3: One of the Labor is Winston Well, I'm going to

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Speaker 3: say that righteous.

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Speaker 14: And the climate change. Of course, the Green claim on

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Speaker 14: that is she's facing Mali, the Marketing Party, the other fifteen.

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Speaker 3: Barry, what does this mean? Because you've been doing this

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Speaker 3: a lot longer than I have. But from my perspective,

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Speaker 3: I was thinking, well, the Poles don't with the polls

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Speaker 3: that we're putting Labor ahead. It's a protest vote the

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Speaker 3: economy's cramp, but Labor didn't have any policies, so that

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Speaker 3: therefore it was a protest vote. Now that Labor has

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Speaker 3: some policies and there's still the Poles aren't changing, what

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Speaker 3: does it tell us?

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Speaker 14: Well, I think, you know, my view has always been

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Speaker 14: in all of this that you know, it takes so

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Speaker 14: long to turn an economy around the way it was left,

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Speaker 14: and when National and the coalition partners took over that

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Speaker 14: it's you know, next year, I think we'll see a

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Speaker 14: better year and maybe these figures will right themselves in

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Speaker 14: terms of what National wants. But I've got to say

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Speaker 14: the polls should worry National, but the Prime Minister, he's

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Speaker 14: playing it tough.

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Speaker 15: I'm focused on making sure we're trying to fix this economy.

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Speaker 15: There's no doubt about it. We inherited a pretty tough situation,

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Speaker 15: thirty five year recession, big COVID hangover, a difficult training environment.

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Speaker 15: But we My job is to fix it and so

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Speaker 15: you know that is what we and our team are doing.

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Speaker 15: There's so many poles each and every week I'll spend

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Speaker 15: more time commenting on poles and extrant fix this country.

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Speaker 14: And there's a lot of truth in that. They're very ambitious.

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Speaker 14: Chris Bishop was standing alongside and on the stage this afternoon.

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Speaker 14: I've got to say though he wasn't looking too worried.

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Speaker 3: The thing is like if you ask people about Labour's

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Speaker 3: record costs on inflation, you know, or their record on education, Well,

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Speaker 3: how can you? I don't know, no.

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Speaker 14: Sense, I can't fathom it myself. I mean, people have

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Speaker 14: short memories, it seems, you know when you look at

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Speaker 14: Chippy and congratulations Chiffy for becoming engaged today, not necessarily

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Speaker 14: in politics but to his partner. But you know he

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Speaker 14: he was the minister at the center Idurn government and.

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Speaker 3: Right the Greens are going to provoke mining contracts and

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Speaker 3: they're just letting us all know now before the actual

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Speaker 3: contracts are signed and done and dusted.

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Speaker 14: And yeah, we're go into this too much. But the

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Speaker 14: thing is that it makes it more difficult for Labor

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Speaker 14: again if this is going to be their bottom line,

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Speaker 14: and Madame Davidson it sounds as though she's pretty determined

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Speaker 14: on it that it was. Of course the government, the

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Speaker 14: Labor Party changed the ail and gas exploration thing as

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Speaker 14: soon as they came into power. Whinston Peters was part

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Speaker 14: of that government, so too was Shane Jones, the mining

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Speaker 14: minister who you remember still on stage with his hand

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Speaker 14: over his face, not liking what was happening. But what

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Speaker 14: they're seending is a message to the international community, and

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Speaker 14: there are a couple of big internationals involved off the

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Speaker 14: Taranaki coast at the moment, saying that if you enter

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Speaker 14: into a contract with this government, we're not going honor it.

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Speaker 14: But that's only the Greens. But it just makes that

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Speaker 14: bit harder for the Labor Party when you consider the

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Speaker 14: Greens will be a coalition partners, so will the Maldi Party.

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Speaker 3: Yes, they will need them or New Zealand. First Yeah, well,

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Speaker 3: well I don't think I did not count that discount

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Speaker 3: until he says he won't do it, and he's only

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Speaker 3: said he won't do it with Chippy. Yeah, that's yet.

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Speaker 3: Now very quickly, our Dona is going to appear on

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Speaker 3: the Graham Norton Show.

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Speaker 14: Well, it's sort of like a public service announcement, isn't

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Speaker 14: it really? That she gets on all the shows. And

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Speaker 14: of course when she was on the Stephen Colbeer Show,

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Speaker 14: I think you might have been in New York at

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Speaker 14: that time traveling as a journalist.

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Speaker 3: No, I wasn't there then, Well I was there.

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Speaker 14: But look, it comes as no surprise that she's on

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Speaker 14: the Graham Norton shows, that it's promoting her autobiographical documentary

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Speaker 14: or film they've made of her. I mean, this woman

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Speaker 14: is a legend in her own lifetime.

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Speaker 3: But overseas, overseas in this country she's not seeing in

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Speaker 3: it's playing her documentary live this afternoon. International.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, it's unbelievable, you know, but she's living overseas. She's

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Speaker 14: a good international citizen and they love her.

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Speaker 3: Verry Soper with Politics. It's nine to five on news Talk.

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Speaker 3: SEBB News Talk said, it is six minutes away from

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Speaker 3: five o'clock. We'll get to Chris Bishop on the changes

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Speaker 3: to the clean car standards. We'll hopefully make cars cheaper

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Speaker 3: for all of us. If we're buying new it should

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Speaker 3: be New War second hand too. We'll ask Chris Bishop

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Speaker 3: the details after five. Now remember that time that the

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Speaker 3: wrong winner was read out that the Oscars and it

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Speaker 3: was an absolute shambles. Well it's happened again. Slightly different

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Speaker 3: level of awards though, I have to say. Friday night,

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty six winner of the Senior South Australian of

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Speaker 3: the Year was announced. Here's how it went down.

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Speaker 5: The twenty twenty six Senior South Australian of the Year

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Speaker 5: for South Australia.

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Speaker 2: Is Malcolm Benoy.

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Speaker 3: Congratulations Malcolm, well done. Malcolm is so far so good.

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Speaker 3: Then this happened. The judges are conferring for a second.

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Speaker 3: It's just like the Oscars.

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Speaker 16: It is a little bit like the Oscars. A Senior

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Speaker 16: Australian of the Year is in fact James.

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Speaker 3: It is James, James Curry.

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Speaker 2: James Curry. Just hold ready to hold for a second.

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Speaker 3: Is it Malcolm? Is it James? The suspense so intense,

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Speaker 3: And then it actually gets worse than the Oscars because

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Speaker 3: it turns out the announcers that actually got it right

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Speaker 3: the first time round had to announce the original winner again.

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Speaker 16: All right, we'll moving along as we hear this. Now

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Speaker 16: apparently it's our notes that are incorrect, and we will

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Speaker 16: let's scrub the last five minutes.

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Speaker 14: I start all of again.

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Speaker 2: Let's open the.

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Speaker 16: Card again and announce that the twenty twenty six Senior

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Speaker 16: Australian of the Year for South Australia is Mac Bennoy.

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Speaker 3: Senior Awards brought to you by Alzheimer's. I think now

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Speaker 3: I had represented an awards one but it was one

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Speaker 3: of my first times i'd done one of those awards

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Speaker 3: nights and it was for Beauty Awards and I was

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Speaker 3: giving out. It was sponsored by Colegate I can remember that,

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Speaker 3: and Art and Matilda. It was Matilda who'd won. Oh

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Speaker 3: I actually do you know what? I can't remember who won?

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Speaker 3: I know anyway, what I did was announce you have

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Speaker 3: cards and front of you, and I announced the winner

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Speaker 3: city with five awards. First award Matilda should have won.

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Speaker 3: I accidentally announced the second winner. So then you've screwed

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Speaker 3: the pooch two ways from Sunday, haven't you, Because not

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Speaker 3: only have you let the cat out of the bag

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Speaker 3: about the second winner, but you've also screwed Matilda. So

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Speaker 3: it was a complete shambles. Anyway, they didn't ask me

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Speaker 3: back to the Beauty Awards, and that is for sure.

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Speaker 3: You're on News Talks zed BA. It's coming up to

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Speaker 3: five o'clock, Chris Bishop. We'll also look at uber and

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Speaker 3: that decision from the Supreme Court. Lots more to come

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Speaker 3: on your Monday afternoon news Talks. Ev Beat.

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Speaker 1: The only drive show you can try it to ask

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Speaker 1: the questions, we get the answers, find the facts and

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Speaker 1: give the analysis. Bryan Bridge on Hither Duplicy Ellen Drive,

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Speaker 1: Where's one New Zealand and the Power of Satellite Mobile

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Speaker 1: News DOORGSV.

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Speaker 3: Good evening, seven after five. The government promising imported new

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Speaker 3: and used vehicle is going to get cheaper. They're cutting

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Speaker 3: charges relating to the clean car standards by almost eighty percent.

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Speaker 3: Now you remember these standards they brought into encourage importers

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Speaker 3: to bring in evs and cleanic cars. Turns up we're

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Speaker 3: not actually buying them, Chris Bishops, the Transport Minister. Good evening,

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Speaker 3: Good evening, So can you give us you're doing this

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Speaker 3: quickly and urgently. What's the quick fixed four?

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Speaker 7: Well, the standard gets tighter on the first of January

656
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Speaker 7: twenty twenty six, So unless we act, there will be

657
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Speaker 7: you know, potentially one hundreds, if not thousands of dollars

658
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Speaker 7: added to the cost of new and imported cars. The

659
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Speaker 7: Clean Car Standard started in twenty twenty three. It's a

660
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Speaker 7: previous government thing. We changed it in twenty twenty four

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Speaker 7: to bring it into lone with Australia, to essentially soften

662
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Speaker 7: it a bit, make it easier for people to comply with.

663
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Speaker 7: But unfortunately, over the last eighteen months or so, the

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Speaker 7: bottom's falling out of the EV market and the people

665
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Speaker 7: who are actually doing the imports actually can't get the

666
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Speaker 7: supply of evs and hybrids such that the scheme is

667
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Speaker 7: going to fail. So basically, unless we act, there's about

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Speaker 7: two hundred and sixty four million dollars worth of penalties

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Speaker 7: that are currently sitting on the box of car importers

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Speaker 7: that will likely be passed along to consumers through higher prices.

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Speaker 7: So we need to act and we're going to do

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Speaker 7: that quickly and it'll be done by the end of

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Speaker 7: the year.

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Speaker 3: This week, are you wiping those penalties?

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Speaker 7: What we're doing is reducing the gets technical but we

676
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Speaker 7: are reducing the the per gram of CO two charge.

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Speaker 7: So look, basically, The way it works is if you

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Speaker 7: bring in a gas guzzler, you've got to offset it

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Speaker 7: with an EV, right, and if you bring in a

680
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Speaker 7: gas guzzler, you pay a penalty, and if you bring

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Speaker 7: in an EV you get a credit, and it's meant

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Speaker 7: to balance out over time. But what's happened is that

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Speaker 7: it hasn't worked out like that because people aren't bringing

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Speaker 7: enough evs and people aren't buying them. And also the

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Speaker 7: importers can't get the supply of the evs because you've

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Speaker 7: got supply constraints coming out of Japan. So you've got

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Speaker 7: all of these importers who are sitting there with all

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Speaker 7: of these penalties that will end up being passed on

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Speaker 7: to consumers, in some cases by thousands of dollars per

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Speaker 7: car for quite common car brands.

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Speaker 3: So we're going to.

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Speaker 7: Reduce the charge of CO two for new vehicles and

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Speaker 7: for used vehicles. We're going to extend the credits held

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Speaker 7: by importers through the December twenty twenty eight and review

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Speaker 7: of the scheme.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I understand that, but if you what about penalties

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Speaker 3: they've already incurred for bringing in gas guzzlers that are

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Speaker 3: sitting on their books what happens to that.

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Speaker 7: Well, the advice we've received is that over time, over

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Speaker 7: the next two years or so, the reduction in the

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Speaker 7: price program of CO two will allow people.

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Speaker 3: To be made whole over the next couple of years.

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Speaker 3: So six twenty seven, okay, So they would just sit

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Speaker 3: and deficit until it balances itself out with more evs

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Speaker 3: coming on stream.

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Speaker 7: That's the plan, and you've got the credits don't expire

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Speaker 7: till thirty one December twenty twenty eight. This is supported

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Speaker 7: by the both new and the used car industry. They

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Speaker 7: We've been working with them over the last few weeks

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Speaker 7: months to get it right.

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Speaker 3: So what does this mean? Does this mean we don't

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Speaker 3: care about the environment? You know, screw climate change?

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Speaker 7: Doesn't mean that, It just means like I mean, look,

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Speaker 7: every country in the OECD, except for Russia, has a

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Speaker 7: clean vehicle standard of some type, right, and actually the

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Speaker 7: car industry supports a clean vehicle standard. The issue is

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Speaker 7: just actually getting the details right. And the last guy's

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Speaker 7: labor's scheme was a disaster. If you think the numbers

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Speaker 7: look bad, now imagine what it would be if they

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Speaker 7: were still happening. We made some changes, but we're making

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Speaker 7: some further changes very quickly. The take home point for

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Speaker 7: people listening is that they're no longer going to be

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Speaker 7: slugged with potentially thousands of dollars of extra charges just

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Speaker 7: for buying a car next year.

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Speaker 3: All right, well, what's a car a name of Carr

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Speaker 3: and how much will I save?

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Speaker 9: Oh?

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Speaker 7: Well, for example, Toyota hi as for example, the maximum

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Speaker 7: potential savings on that one of fifteen hundred bucks Toyota

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Speaker 7: High Lucks one thousand bucks too out a red four

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Speaker 7: two undred and sixty bucks for a new Celtos for

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Speaker 7: a three thoy six hundred Yeah for a new one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, yeah, good to know. Chris Bishop, transportman

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Speaker 3: is appreciate your time. It's five eleven frame Bridge. Food

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Speaker 3: price is up four point seven percent in the year

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Speaker 3: of October. Milk up thirteen and a half percent, four

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Speaker 3: hundred four dollars seventy eight a liter, Cheese up thirty percent,

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Speaker 3: eggs up eighteen and a half percent, almost ten bucks

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Speaker 3: a dozen Now instant coffee was up twenty five percent,

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Speaker 3: But that's discussing anyways. Who cares? Brad Olson, infa Metric's

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Speaker 3: principal economists, wasn't me Hey, Brad, good afternoon. So surprise

742
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Speaker 3: is still going up.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, life is still pretty expensive. That the good news

744
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Speaker 12: is as we head into summer, you're seeing some areas

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Speaker 12: of relief, the likes of fruit and vegetables becoming a

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Speaker 12: bit cheaper as we get into that better growing season.

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Speaker 12: But look, as you're thinking of, you know, Christmas sort

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Speaker 12: of lunch or dinner, I don't think you're going to

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Speaker 12: be wanting to put the likes of mince paddies or

750
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Speaker 12: steak on the barbie or ething, given that those have increased.

751
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Speaker 12: In fact, a couple of months ago, right, we were

752
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Speaker 12: talking a lot about butter. Mince now the new butter

753
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Speaker 12: in a sense, given that though that's increased, I think

754
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 12: it's now twenty three bucks of kilo for that. So

755
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Speaker 12: your staples are still really expensive. They continue to go up,

756
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Speaker 12: So still pretty challenging for a lot of household.

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Speaker 3: How are you saying go vegan?

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Speaker 12: No, I'm saying maybe shop around, because while the likes

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Speaker 12: of beef and lamb and even fish has increased, the

760
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Speaker 12: likes of pork and chicken hasn't shifted all that much,

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Speaker 12: so that there's a little bit of option on the table.

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Speaker 12: The one that worries me though, that we don't talk

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Speaker 12: about a lot, is the fact that electricity price inflation

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Speaker 12: is currently running it its fastest since nineteen eighty nine.

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Speaker 12: Like that stuff's really starting to hit households and you

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Speaker 12: can't avoid that cost.

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Speaker 3: Right, So what does this do to the overall inflation number.

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Speaker 3: Before the end of the year, we were going to

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Speaker 3: hit three percent over three percent, Well, we're there at

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Speaker 3: the moment.

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Speaker 12: We expect things to come down, but that's more Yes,

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Speaker 12: you've got the likes of your food price inflation that's

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Speaker 12: still running hot, electricity and similar as well. The challenge

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Speaker 12: that I think I'm finding when you look at the

775
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Speaker 12: headline numbers, the price of like a couch or your

776
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Speaker 12: fridge or a phone or similar are coming down. That's good,

777
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Speaker 12: but how many of those are we buying each week?

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Speaker 12: It's the really essential stuff that you're paying very very frequently,

779
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 12: your electricity, your food and similar that's continuing to hit.

780
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Speaker 12: So although headline inflation might be in a better place

781
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Speaker 12: going forward, the cost of living challenge for households doing

782
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Speaker 12: it day by day is still going to be tough bred.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Brad Olson in for Metrics thirteen after five.

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Speaker 3: Now I'll take you to Kindala in Wellington. And the

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Speaker 3: reason I say Kandala is because it's the renuw earer

786
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Speaker 3: of Wellington. It's the nice area, it's the flash area.

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Speaker 3: It's on the hill and the hoity torty people live

788
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Speaker 3: there and they're complaining because that's what hoity torchy people do, complain,

789
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Speaker 3: and they're complaining about planes. So a couple of years

790
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Speaker 3: ago the flight path was changed. This is for Wellington

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Speaker 3: Airport for planes that are taking off and heading north.

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Speaker 3: Flight flight path gets changed. Planes were going over Newlands,

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Speaker 3: which is like, oh, I don't know, I'm loathed to

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Speaker 3: make a comparison actually at this point, but Newland's not

795
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Speaker 3: as nice Candala quite nice. So flight plan gets changed

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Speaker 3: for safety reasons, not actually really sure why. But now

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Speaker 3: there are thirty eight planes of a morning taking off

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Speaker 3: six am. The first one eighty decibels. Is there's one

799
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Speaker 3: particular woman who was interviewed says from six am, I've

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Speaker 3: got thirty eight planes taking off daily and it's eighty

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Speaker 3: decibels even with air plugs in bed. I'm woken up.

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Speaker 3: So what do we think, Shut up Candala or dump

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Speaker 3: it on Newlands? How do we feel I presumably there

804
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Speaker 3: is a specific reason that this has happened. It's a

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Speaker 3: under drivers, Sorry, Uber drivers, it's five a seen on

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Speaker 3: newstalk ZB have the same right as any other company employee.

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Speaker 3: This is a landmark Supreme Court case unanimously throwing out

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Speaker 3: Uber's appeal which aim to restrict labor rights to their

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Speaker 3: drivers as contractors workers. First Union will now progress with

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Speaker 3: Anita Good evening, Hi, Ryan, So what rights do they

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Speaker 3: now have?

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Speaker 6: So they have the same rights that any other employee

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Speaker 6: has in New Zealand, I mean the big ones that

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Speaker 6: you know most people would think of a minimum wage,

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Speaker 6: annual leave, you know, other types of leaves sickly can

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Speaker 6: we save a contributions. A big one for Uber drivers

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Speaker 6: is they now have rights around you know, job protection,

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Speaker 6: so Uber shouldn't be able to just dismiss them at

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Speaker 6: the drop of the hat without going through any due process.

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Speaker 6: So it's a really important one for them.

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Speaker 3: So for these four employees, obviously significant ruling. But what

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Speaker 3: about You've got about one thousand members who are drive

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Speaker 3: and ubers. Have I got that right?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right?

851
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Speaker 3: So what about them? What happens now to their situation?

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Speaker 6: So we've already lodged with the Employment Relations Authority claims

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Speaker 6: on behalf of all of our current members, and we'll

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Speaker 6: continue to lodge as new drivers join, basically saying that

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Speaker 6: we think the company owes the money for everything that

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Speaker 6: they should have received already if the company was properly

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Speaker 6: recognizing them as employees the whole way along. So the

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Speaker 6: Authority has been waiting for the Supreme Court's decision before

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Speaker 6: they started any work on these claims. But now that

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Speaker 6: we've got that, they'll launch into a process to calculate

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Speaker 6: exactly what it is that Uber owes those people. So

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Speaker 6: that's a really important process we'll go through. And then

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Speaker 6: obviously we're also looking to collect a fleet bagain with Uber,

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Speaker 6: and this is really the future focused part of it.

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Speaker 6: We sort of like look back and think, Okay, you

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Speaker 6: know they're owed a certain amount of money, let's let's

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Speaker 6: fix that up. But what about the system going forwards?

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Speaker 6: Clearly it's not been working for people go through the

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Speaker 6: collective bargaining process. We really want to improve the Erber

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Speaker 6: system for all drivers in New Zealand.

871
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Speaker 3: And these to how much are we talking here total

872
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Speaker 3: for these workers? Hundreds of millions potentially, I mean potentially.

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Speaker 6: It's really hard to say at this point because it's

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Speaker 6: totally contingent on how much driving they've done. So the

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Speaker 6: more driving a driver has done, the longer they've been

876
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Speaker 6: engaged with Uber, the more likely they are to be

877
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Speaker 6: old a more significant amount of money and then lack waves.

878
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Speaker 6: With drivers who've only just started or who drives part time,

879
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Speaker 6: they're going to be olde less. But yes, we're looking

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Speaker 6: at a very very large bills ober.

881
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Speaker 3: What happens if you are an Uber driver and you

882
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Speaker 3: want to take it you don't want to work today?

883
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Speaker 3: Does that mean, you know, can you just do you

884
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Speaker 3: have apply for leave if you're if you're an employee,

885
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Speaker 3: you'd have to right.

886
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean at the moment, you don't have to

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Speaker 6: do that if you're driving for Uber. But what we've

888
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Speaker 6: done is that the reality is is that you if

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Speaker 6: you want to make any money, all driving for Uber,

890
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Speaker 6: and what you tend to do is you fall in

891
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Speaker 6: line and drive the hours that they want you to drive.

892
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Speaker 6: So it's no coincidence that most drivers who do it

893
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Speaker 6: full time end up working like, for example, Friday night,

894
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Speaker 6: Saturday night and rush hour.

895
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Speaker 3: But that's when people want to drive the hours.

896
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Speaker 6: Those aren't the hours date, but those aren't the hours

897
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Speaker 6: that they want to work.

898
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Speaker 3: If you don't drive an Uber, I'm sorry, I need

899
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Speaker 3: to don't drive an Uber. Those are the hours people

900
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Speaker 3: want the cars.

901
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Speaker 6: I mean the thing I'm not saying nobody should be

902
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Speaker 6: driving those hours. And absolutely that's when the work is.

903
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Speaker 6: That's when the work needs to be done. That's when

904
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Speaker 6: people need to drive. But there's nothing to say that

905
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Speaker 6: people shouldn't be earning minimum wage to do that work, right,

906
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Speaker 6: that's it's just not right, the right thing to do.

907
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Speaker 6: A crap ton of money in our country. They can

908
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Speaker 6: surely get there.

909
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Speaker 3: Is no drivers, there's no doubt about that. But what's

910
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Speaker 3: your message to people who use Uber? Because there this

911
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Speaker 3: will put their prices up right?

912
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Speaker 6: Well, not necessarily because Uber has been operating this model

913
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Speaker 6: all over the world, and there's been a whole bunch

914
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Speaker 6: of different you know, attacks on it and approaches to it,

915
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Speaker 6: and they have threatened that everywhere they've gone. As that said,

916
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Speaker 6: you know, any kind of challenge to our business model

917
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Speaker 6: will put prices up and we might pull out of

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Speaker 6: the country and so on and so forth. But more

919
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Speaker 6: often than you've actually just seen them continue to operate

920
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Speaker 6: the way that they've always operated. So and like we said,

921
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Speaker 6: there's a whole heap of money going to this company

922
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Speaker 6: at the moment. At the moment, it's about priorities, right,

923
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Speaker 6: they can choose to put the money where it should

924
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Speaker 6: be going, which is in the pockets of their drivers

925
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Speaker 6: and people who are actually bringing the money in with

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Speaker 6: their services.

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Speaker 3: Nita, appreciate your time. Nita roseentraded with us from first

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Speaker 3: Union time is five twenty three. What about D D

929
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Speaker 3: and bolts is this Texter? Yeah? I agree. The Uber

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Speaker 3: drivers can switch between I mean, if a working relationship,

931
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Speaker 3: if you're an employee, it's like a marriage, and if

932
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Speaker 3: you're a contractor, it's like you're still in the dating pool,

933
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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. You can go and go

934
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Speaker 3: on as many dates with as many different people as

935
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Speaker 3: you like. No one's going to care once you're married.

936
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Speaker 3: That's a problem. Same thing with a employee verse contract

937
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Speaker 3: of relationship. And the Uber drivers have been free to

938
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Speaker 3: go and flip between the dds and the bolts, and

939
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Speaker 3: they was it alla for a while there. That was

940
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Speaker 3: one of the So can you really call them employees? Well,

941
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Speaker 3: the courts say yeah you can. Five twenty three News TALKSB.

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Speaker 1: The name you trust to get the answers you need,

943
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Speaker 1: it's Ryan Bridge on either duplessy Ellen Drive with one

944
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Speaker 1: New Zealand coverage like no one else.

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Speaker 3: News TALKSB five twenty six. Couple of things from this

946
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Speaker 3: morning's poll on the capital gains tax from the Herald. Basically,

947
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Speaker 3: we're evenly split, which is a bit of a win

948
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Speaker 3: for labor because it's not a disaster for them in

949
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Speaker 3: the sense that there's no great revolution against a capital

950
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Speaker 3: gains tax brewing out there. But the results are interesting.

951
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Speaker 3: The details of the results are interesting. So more Aucklanders

952
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Speaker 3: hate the capital gains tax than the rest of the country.

953
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Speaker 3: Forty five percent of Jaffer's oppose it, only thirty two

954
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Speaker 3: percent supported. Now this is important because Auckland holds the

955
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Speaker 3: keys to the kingdom electorally. Labour found that out in

956
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Speaker 3: their stunning defeat at the polls two years ago. You'll remember,

957
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Speaker 3: so if you're national, that's where you focus your anti

958
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Speaker 3: capital gains tax campaign. Also interesting and the herald peace

959
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Speaker 3: on the pom What makes this point this morning? In

960
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 3: areas where people are doing well, where house prices haven't caved,

961
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Speaker 3: there's more support for it. In areas feeling poor because

962
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Speaker 3: their house price has fallen through the fore like Auckland,

963
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Speaker 3: they don't like it. So basically you have squeezed middle

964
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Speaker 3: voters telling you they feel too poor to support another tax,

965
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Speaker 3: and so you end up with this fight between people

966
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Speaker 3: who like the sound of an idea in a poll

967
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Speaker 3: and people who feel it will threaten their chance of

968
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:43,240
Speaker 3: growing wealth or saving full retirement and like it although

969
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Speaker 3: that property is a vehicle that people have been using

970
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 3: to do that. Then you've got to ask yourself, will

971
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 3: the tax do what it says on the label? Will

972
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 3: it pay for millions of extra doctors' visits as we've

973
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:57,439
Speaker 3: been promised? Where will these doctors magically appear from? Does

974
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 3: this party have a good track record with delivering on promises,

975
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Speaker 3: particularly if they tell you how much, but not really

976
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 3: detail on how you could look at this poll and

977
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Speaker 3: you could think, well, this is a win for the

978
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Speaker 3: capital gains and it is sort of, but there's plenty

979
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Speaker 3: of fodder for an anti capital gains tax campaign which

980
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Speaker 3: is no doubt being workshopped by some ad agency in

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Speaker 3: Grayland for the National Party as we speak, Ryan five

982
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Speaker 3: twenty eight, it's good to have your company now. The

983
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 3: airport and Wellington and Kendala. If you missed the story earlier,

984
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Speaker 3: it's the fancy suburban Wellington. They're complaining about the noise. Ryan.

985
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Speaker 3: You can't buy a house and near an airport and

986
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 3: then complain about the planes going overhead. That's the problem.

987
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 3: It's not near the airport. And initially when they bought

988
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Speaker 3: their houses, it wasn't going overhead. You're on news talks here, big.

989
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Speaker 17: News and then the panel.

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Speaker 1: On your smart speaker, on the iHeart app and in

991
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Speaker 1: your car on your drive home, Ryan Bridge, on either

992
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Speaker 1: dupericy Ellen drive with one New Zealand and of power

993
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Speaker 1: of satellite mobile news talks, they'd be.

994
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Speaker 18: It's hard to see twenty.

995
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Speaker 3: Four away from sexy on news talks, they'd be it's

996
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Speaker 3: great to have your company on a Monday evening, Convita

997
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 3: in a world of trouble, a world of pain, and

998
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 3: that takeover bid well not happening is that the shareholders

999
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 3: voted it down. Fifty four point twenty nine percent of

1000
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 3: shareholders voted for it and seventy five percent was required.

1001
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 3: So even though you've got more than half the shareholders

1002
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 3: wanting to do the deal, you need a supermajority, what

1003
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 3: we would call them politics. A supermajority didn't happen. So

1004
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:47,240
Speaker 3: what happens now for Convita? Will speak to the chief executive,

1005
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 3: Carl Grayden. He's on the show after six this.

1006
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Speaker 2: Evening, Ryan Bridge.

1007
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 3: More than two hundred schools have reaffirmed their commitment to

1008
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 3: the Treaty of White Tangy, the Tidity or White Tangy.

1009
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Speaker 3: This is after the government removed the requirement for school

1010
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 3: boards to uphold it. Christopher and spoke about it with

1011
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 3: Hosking on ZRE'DB this morning. It's just the.

1012
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 15: Wrong conversation to be having. That's what parents should be

1013
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 15: pushing those boards damn hard on because I'm assuming then

1014
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 15: they've got outstanding academic achievement, outstanding attendance records.

1015
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 3: That is what they have to be focused on. Now.

1016
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Speaker 3: Kate Kettle is the Queen's High School board chair. They've

1017
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Speaker 3: reaffirmed their commitment, joins me. Now, Kate, good evening.

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Speaker 19: How are you Ryan?

1019
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 3: Very well? Thank you Kate. What is that reaffirming your

1020
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 3: commitment to the treaty? What does that change for a student?

1021
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 19: What does it change for a student? Well, it doesn't

1022
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 19: actually change a lot, because for a long time now,

1023
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 19: schools have been building and weaving into treaty and all

1024
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 19: the principles of divers inclosure that entails into our curriculum

1025
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 19: and our way of being at our schools.

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00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 3: But the ministry sets the curriculum though, oh.

1027
00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 19: The minister, yes they do.

1028
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 3: So what are you changing? What are you changing?

1029
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 20: Well, we're not.

1030
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Speaker 19: Actually, My point is we're not actually changing anything. We're

1031
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,479
Speaker 19: just continuing on with the focus that we've been asked

1032
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Speaker 19: to do in the last few years, which, yeah.

1033
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Speaker 3: Honoring the Treaty, but not actually doing anything, just honoring,

1034
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 3: just saying you're honor it, but not changing anything. Is

1035
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 3: that right?

1036
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 19: Well, the point being that we when we're honoring it,

1037
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Speaker 19: we are weaving that into our strategies that schools are

1038
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 19: supposed to do. It's not just about necessarily offering classes

1039
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 19: in today or having Copper Harker groups. It's about offering

1040
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 19: a teaching our education users, our people of tomorrow about

1041
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 19: how to have a worldview that's our understanding of different cultures, so.

1042
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,800
Speaker 3: Not just Maori culture Indian.

1043
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 2: Well.

1044
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Speaker 19: The thing is that when you are given the perspective

1045
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 19: of any culture that is different from yours, or any

1046
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Speaker 19: different worldview, it teaches you the skills of having an

1047
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 19: open mind, of being able to appreciate how other people

1048
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 19: look at things. You can become more understanding, more responsive.

1049
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Speaker 3: Okay, this is all good stuff. I totally appreciate that,

1050
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 3: and we need that in our schools because students need

1051
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 3: to be well rounded. But how does you reaffirming a

1052
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 3: commitment to a to honor a treaty that you do

1053
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 3: not do anything practical with. How has that been I

1054
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 3: just don't understand. Can you not do that without honoring

1055
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 3: the treaty and reaffirming your commitment to it.

1056
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 19: I think the point is that we're at and to

1057
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 19: tell focus fully on academic outcomes and attendance is not

1058
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 19: providing our students with a holistic approach to education. It's

1059
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 19: not empowering every type of luna. We are actually actively

1060
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 19: in the decisions our schools make, for example, and setting

1061
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 19: our values, which sets our strategic goals, which underpins how

1062
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 19: our schools approach the curriculum. That's the way in which

1063
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 19: we honor to TVT and the principles that follow from there.

1064
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 3: Okay, just curious your school. What's your attendance record and

1065
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 3: your achievement record?

1066
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Speaker 19: Bike, They are definitely on par with other schools around

1067
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Speaker 19: our region.

1068
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 2: National.

1069
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 19: Yeah, we're proud of our results.

1070
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Speaker 3: What are the results?

1071
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 19: Off the top of my head, I don't know. That

1072
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 19: is something that we monitor from board meeting to board meeting,

1073
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Speaker 19: and I don't have those to hand.

1074
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Speaker 3: I'm afraid, Kate, appreciate your time. Kate Kettle, who's the

1075
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 3: Queen's High School board chair, reaffirming their commitment to the

1076
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Speaker 3: Treaty nine team to six the huddle.

1077
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Speaker 1: With New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, a name you can

1078
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,240
Speaker 1: trust locally and globally.

1079
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Speaker 3: Joining me this evening, Josie Beganni's CEO at Child Fund

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Speaker 3: Josie Good Evening, Hello, good to see you, and Thomas

1081
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Speaker 3: Scrimmer's here from the Maximums to Thomas Good evening today.

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Speaker 3: Ryan thoughts on that, Josie, Well, I don't.

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Speaker 21: Think it's really changing much. It's just removing it as

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Speaker 21: a mandatory obligation for school board of trustees to reflect

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Speaker 21: their honoring of the treaty and so they can still

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Speaker 21: do it as these schools are. So I don't know

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Speaker 21: that it's that big an issue. I do think for

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Speaker 21: the government there's a two things. There's a feeling that

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Speaker 21: they're picking cultural fights they probably don't need to have,

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Speaker 21: yes agreed, and it's partly that you know, it gets votes,

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Speaker 21: that's right. But I think I'm thinking of Jim Boldery,

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Speaker 21: actually the late Jim Boulder. He's saying to me just

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Speaker 21: a few weeks before he died, you know, why why

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Speaker 21: are they cutting you know, Terio mar Why do they

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Speaker 21: have to do that? This is a National Party former

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Speaker 21: Prime minister who brought in the treaty settlement process. So

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Speaker 21: I do think u Zialad just don't want a culture

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Speaker 21: war on the left.

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Speaker 1: Or the right.

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Speaker 3: No, I agree, So I think they should just let

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Speaker 3: it go.

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Speaker 21: But the other thing is, you know, there isn't teachers

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Speaker 21: need to I think probably stop being quite so militant

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Speaker 21: as they are I'm picking a fight with the government

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Speaker 21: every single ye every time, and they're just going to

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Speaker 21: turn people.

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Speaker 12: Off all that.

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Speaker 3: Thomas. Let's talk about the capital gains tax. So we

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Speaker 3: had this poll today and it said basically, we're a

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Speaker 3: bobb each way or even Stevens. Thirty nine percent I

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Speaker 3: think agree with it. This is Labour's plan. Thirty nine

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Speaker 3: percent oppose it. But it wasn't a disaster like it

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Speaker 3: should be a disaster for Labor. They should go, oh,

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Speaker 3: capital gains tax. Labor's texting, Oh, we're running away, but

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Speaker 3: people aren't running away. Yeah for sure.

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Speaker 22: I mean if I was a Labor political strategist, I'd

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Speaker 22: be feeling really good about that result. Like you say,

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Speaker 22: sort of fairly mixed bag in terms of public opinion,

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Speaker 22: which for a new tax, is a pretty good thing

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Speaker 22: and I think also pretty smart on their part to

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Speaker 22: launch it so far out. I think it's hard to

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Speaker 22: sustain animosity to any policy of over such a long

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Speaker 22: period of time, so the new Zitald public will probably

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Speaker 22: get used to it. And the other thing Labor did

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Speaker 22: was exclude the family home, which I think from at

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Speaker 22: a policy level doesn't make sense, but politically it really

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Speaker 22: does because it kind of dilutes some of the animosity.

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Speaker 22: The only really mistake they made, I think is not

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Speaker 22: accounting for inflation, and the reason that they don't want

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Speaker 22: to is that they want more revenue from it. But

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Speaker 22: it means you could still sell your house for a

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Speaker 22: loss and be taxed on your loss, which is probably

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Speaker 22: not ideal.

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Speaker 3: Certainly not, Josie, what's your take on it? Because we've

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Speaker 3: had poles out, we've had the ipsoce thing today, and

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Speaker 3: when I go to parties, my friends, my lefty friends say, oh,

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Speaker 3: this is great.

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Speaker 21: Do you have some lefty friends?

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Speaker 23: Right?

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Speaker 3: Most of my friends are big, giant lefties, big lovies,

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Speaker 3: and they say, all, this is great because the other

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Speaker 3: side's getting screwed at the moment, you know, and they

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Speaker 3: love it. But then my friends on the right they say,

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Speaker 3: please please tell us this is not going the way

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Speaker 3: we think it's. The poles tell us it's going. What

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Speaker 3: do you think?

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Speaker 21: Well, the polls is of all over the place, aren't they.

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Speaker 21: I mean that latest poll well, I mean that government

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Speaker 21: rating was about three point nine out of ten.

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Speaker 4: That's really low.

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Speaker 21: I mean, if I got a rating like that as

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Speaker 21: a CEO of a charity, I'd be out in my ear.

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Speaker 21: Having said that, it said, I think one of the

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Speaker 21: IPSIS polls was, oh, this is the worst worst ranking

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Speaker 21: for a government since twenty seventeen, which actually isn't that bad.

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Speaker 21: I remember twenty seventeen, and I do think I think

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Speaker 21: Labor have to be careful sonment. The government's got a problem.

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Speaker 21: I don't think people understand what national is for, what

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Speaker 21: the coalition government is for. It's growth, but they don't

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Speaker 21: see that cascading into their own incomes or their own

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Speaker 21: job opportunities, or cost of living, all of that stuff.

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Speaker 21: So they're just not seeing it. And that's a problem

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Speaker 21: for the government ring And the problem for labor is

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Speaker 21: they this is good for them, That CGT polling is

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Speaker 21: really good for them, because I would have expected it

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Speaker 21: to be much worse. If you ask people, do you

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Speaker 21: like attacks like CGT, of course I's in the same

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Speaker 21: So it tells me that there's actually quite a lot

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Speaker 21: of support out there.

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Speaker 3: Something shift out.

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Speaker 21: But Labour has to be careful Ryan that they don't

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Speaker 21: do a Peter Dutton in Australia, where he was leading

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Speaker 21: in the polls for two years because it was an

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Speaker 21: anti government vote. Really in the polls and then suddenly,

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Speaker 21: you know, the coalition in Australia and the Liberal Party

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Speaker 21: lost dramatically in Albanesi and Labor will voted back in.

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Speaker 21: So Labour have to be careful they don't read this

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Speaker 21: as one hundred percent vote for them. It's also a

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Speaker 21: vote against the government.

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Speaker 3: Don't take it for granted. Josie Bigani, Thomas Scrimser on

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Speaker 3: The Huddle back in a second, News talksb.

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Speaker 2: The Huddle with.

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Speaker 1: New Zealand Southeby's International Realty the only truly global brand.

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Speaker 3: Twelve to six. Josie Beganney and Thomas Scrimger on The

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Speaker 3: Huddle tonight. Thomas the Uber case. So the Supreme Court

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Speaker 3: has sort of upheld the appeals fallen over this is

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Speaker 3: whether an Uber employee or an Uber driver is an

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Speaker 3: employee or or a contractor. They are going to be

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Speaker 3: these four at least considered employees and that will mean well,

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Speaker 3: probably have big implications for the workers. Although the government's

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Speaker 3: trying to legislate in this area.

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Speaker 22: Your thoughts, Yeah, I think there's two issues here really.

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Speaker 22: I mean that the first is whether the judges of

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Speaker 22: the Supreme Court have correctly interpreted the law as it stands,

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Speaker 22: and I don't really have a view either way on that.

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Speaker 22: But I think at the more fundamental level is an

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Speaker 22: uber driver and employee, I just can't really see how

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Speaker 22: they are. I mean, they choose what jobs they take,

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Speaker 22: they are under no obligation to keep accepting jobs, they

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Speaker 22: can knock off when they want, they can work for

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Speaker 22: a competitor. All of these things are really classical. What

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Speaker 22: is an independent contractor? If Uber drivers are employees not contractors,

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Speaker 22: I actually don't know what an independent contractor even is.

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01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 22: So I think it's probably fair enough that the government

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Speaker 22: is looking to legislate in this case to bring clarity

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Speaker 22: because clearly the courts have seen that under the law

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Speaker 22: as they read it, they are employees. But I just

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Speaker 22: don't see how that's a sustainable interpretation. They quite clearly

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Speaker 22: are contractors in my view.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't fit my deffinitely what I think of

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Speaker 3: when I think of an employee, Josie.

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Speaker 6: So I think there's a difference.

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Speaker 21: I think there's a difference between a self employed person.

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Speaker 21: So I've been self employed before. When I'm self employed, yep,

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Speaker 21: I set my own hours, I pay for my own holidays.

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Speaker 21: If I'm sick I don't work and I don't get paid,

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Speaker 21: but I can negotiate my rate, and I can negotiate

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Speaker 21: my conditions. I think the difference with things like Uber

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Speaker 21: drivers is they can't negotiate their.

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Speaker 3: Their rates, their price takers.

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Speaker 21: No, so that they are in many ways like employees.

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Speaker 21: They have to work, you know, they have to work

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Speaker 21: to a certain rate, they have to work according to

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Speaker 21: the conditions that Uber set.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so that's a bit different, Josie. When I signed,

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Speaker 3: because I've worked as a contractor, it's self employed, a

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Speaker 3: contractor and an employee. When I'm a contractor, these guys,

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Speaker 3: the bosses here, make me sign all these things that

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Speaker 3: say I won't go and work for anyone else, you know,

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Speaker 3: like I'm exclusive to them, whereas these Uber drivers can

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Speaker 3: run around with DEDI and Bolton whoever the hell else

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Speaker 3: they like.

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Speaker 21: So I think, I and you're right, this legislation coming

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Speaker 21: up on this, but I think it's about not so

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Speaker 21: much saying a contractor is an employee, but that a

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Speaker 21: contractor has the rights of workers, certain rights that certain

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Speaker 21: workers that most workers have. Anyway, so you could negotiate

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Speaker 21: something like the ability to get legal advice before you

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Speaker 21: sign a contract or the you know, could make that mandatory.

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Speaker 21: It could be things like some minimum standards around you

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Speaker 21: won't work fifteen hours ago.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, rather than I do think it.

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Speaker 21: Needs it does need addressing. It's not as simple as

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Speaker 21: to say one is a contractor one's employee. It's more complicated.

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Speaker 3: Thomas Kandala residents and Wellington are really upset about the

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Speaker 3: planes flying over their houses. And they used to fly

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Speaker 3: over Newtown and Candala's much nice and Dalada Darling is

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Speaker 3: how they say in Wellington. Got any sympathy for them?

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Speaker 22: Oh, I sympathize and so far as I think it's

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01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 22: probably not that nice to have a plane flying over

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Speaker 22: your head at all hours of the day, and they

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Speaker 22: previously didn't. But I don't know what their redress they

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Speaker 22: want to have is that the move was because of

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Speaker 22: safety reasons. This is a better flight path. Previously different

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Speaker 22: residents had to deal with planes. They live in the

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Speaker 22: broad vicinity of an airport and planes need to land.

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Speaker 22: To complain about this is to say I think other

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Speaker 22: people should experience this thing.

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Speaker 3: I don't like.

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Speaker 22: I don't want to experience it myself. I mean, I

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Speaker 22: live in west Auckland, I have a police helicopter over

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Speaker 22: my house every other night of the week.

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Speaker 21: Plus stop committing so much crime, and then that's.

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Speaker 22: Not so much me as my dearly beloved neighbors who

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Speaker 22: seem to be attracting the attention of the police helicopter.

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Speaker 22: But what is the redress here that it gets moved

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Speaker 22: to other residents. If we have an airport in a city,

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Speaker 22: the planes have to land. I just don't see what

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Speaker 22: they're asking for.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, that's absolutely right. If you have an airport in

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Speaker 21: a city, you're going to have planes flying over the city.

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Speaker 21: And I'm sick of people with nice lives and lovely houses. Great,

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Speaker 21: I have a nice life in a lovely house, but

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Speaker 21: constantly complaining. I wanted to say that they want the

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Speaker 21: poor people to feel and hear the noise and not

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Speaker 21: live in a house and not have intensification, and for

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Speaker 21: goodness sake, tough enough. But I have actually got a

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Speaker 21: solution to this, that they should put the airport. I'm

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Speaker 21: very happy for the airport to move to Karpati, where

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Speaker 21: I live, and then they can, you know, move it there,

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Speaker 21: and then they won't have any planes.

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Speaker 3: It'll be wycnized problem. Josie, Thank you, jose Bigani from

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Speaker 3: Child Funder and Thomas Scrimser from the Maxim Institute on

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Speaker 3: the Huddle tonight, seven away from six News Talks Hebb.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Dupless Allen Drive Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 1: my Art Radio powered by News Talks EBB.

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Speaker 3: News TALKSB. Four minutes away from six o'clock. Nicola willis

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Speaker 3: here after six the PSI. This is the Services Sector Index.

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Speaker 3: We care about this because it's two thirds of our

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Speaker 3: economy and the bad news is that it's still going backwards.

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Speaker 3: This is a result for October and it was forty

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Speaker 3: eight point seven percent. Now. That is up from forty

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Speaker 3: eight point three percent in September, which means that we

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Speaker 3: are going back We are going backwards more slowly, but

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Speaker 3: we are still going backwards. You need a number over

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Speaker 3: fifty to show expansion. We are not quite there. It's

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Speaker 3: been twenty straight months of contraction for the services sector.

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Speaker 3: We had manufacturing out on Friday, of course, and that's

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Speaker 3: back and positive, which is all good news. But she's

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Speaker 3: taken the data is noisy, that's what they say. Data

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Speaker 3: is a bit noisy at the moment as we lift

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Speaker 3: out of a deep and hideous recession, Nikola Willis ironically

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Speaker 3: the Growth Minister on the show after six News Talk

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Speaker 3: sev B.

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Speaker 24: Only is a little good news, not only mean, isn't

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Speaker 24: it so then, Mamie bed in the middle, Not only

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Speaker 24: it is a little.

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Speaker 1: We're Business meets Insight the Business Hour where Rain's Reach

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Speaker 1: and Mass motor vehicle Insurance. Your futures in good hands,

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Speaker 1: us talks there be good.

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Speaker 3: Evening six after sixth grade to have your company coming

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Speaker 3: up this hour we will look at the greens mining

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Speaker 3: announcement that they've made today. You could drive the truck

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Speaker 3: through the holes in it. Also Shane Soley on the

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Speaker 3: Market's Gavin Graham the UK for US Starman. They're trying

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Speaker 3: to crack down on a legal migration, finally doing something,

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Speaker 3: being pushed by Farage into that. Joining me first though

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Speaker 3: Nicola Willis Finance Minister. Minister, good evening, good evening, Good

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Speaker 3: to have you on the show. Let's start with this

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Speaker 3: polling around the capital gains tax. What do you think

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Speaker 3: does it look like you'll in the IPSOS polling, it

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Speaker 3: looks like you've lost.

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Speaker 20: The room well on the capital gains tax. You can

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Speaker 20: see that already significant numbers of people oppose that tax,

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Speaker 20: and I tell you what, between now an election day,

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Speaker 20: we will have a lot more opportunities to point out

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Speaker 20: the significant negative effects that will have on groups of

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Speaker 20: voters in the economy. So I expect the numbers and

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Speaker 20: support will continue to fall.

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Speaker 3: But the numbers and support are the same as the

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Speaker 3: ones apposed, aren't they.

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Speaker 20: There's also a big undecided group in the middle run,

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Speaker 20: and those are the people that we will be speaking

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Speaker 20: to between now and the election. And I also think

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Speaker 20: some of the people who may at this stage be

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Speaker 20: saying they support it haven't yet recognized the impact it

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Speaker 20: could have on them, their family, their business, their employer.

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Speaker 20: And so we have a job between now and the

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Speaker 20: election to make sure everyone understands what labour are threatening

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Speaker 20: to do.

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Speaker 3: Are you convincing though? Do you think you're convincing, because

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 20: It's pretty convincing that labor have a track record, which

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Speaker 20: is they waste a heck of a load of money,

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Speaker 20: then they run out of money, so they come after

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Speaker 20: your money, and whenever they say they're going to do

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Speaker 20: a little tax, they end up doing a big tax.

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Speaker 3: This makes sense.

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Speaker 20: Everyone understands insure well it an additional tax, isn't good

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Speaker 20: for any But this is the problem.

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Speaker 3: You have been saying this for two years now. Do

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Speaker 3: people actually think that or are I When you look

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Speaker 3: at the EPSOCE poll, you're no longer the most trusted

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Speaker 3: party on the economy, You're no longer the most trusted

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Speaker 3: party on the cost of living, You're no longer the

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Speaker 3: most trusted party on most issues.

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Speaker 20: Well, I think in terms of that IPSOS pole, it

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Speaker 20: is at a point in time where I think many

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Speaker 20: of us, me and the government are included, want to

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Speaker 20: see the economy performing better. It's at one point in time.

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Speaker 20: It's one pole between now an election day. There are

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Speaker 20: twelve months to go. I'm confident the economy will be

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Speaker 20: performing a lot better over the next few months. And

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Speaker 20: when New zealand Is are faced with the basic question,

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Speaker 20: who do you trust to strengthen the economy going forward?

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Speaker 20: The people who got us into the mess with all

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Speaker 20: of the extra debt and inflation and the rapidly rising

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Speaker 20: interest rates, or the people have had to do the

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Speaker 20: hard yards of digging us out of that, who have

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Speaker 20: actually delivered stable inflation, dropped interest rates and a growing economy.

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Speaker 20: I think they will choose national.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for letting us know the elections in November much appreciated,

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Speaker 3: Minister A year or so from now know you said

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Speaker 3: twelve months minister, So I am listen to that, but

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Speaker 3: you know.

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Speaker 20: You know it's not my promise to make though it's

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Speaker 20: the Prime Minister.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I know, you don't have to. It was your

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Speaker 3: mistake to make That's what it was you when you

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Speaker 3: appointed Andrew Costa. What exactly did you know? Did you

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Speaker 3: know at that point this is to the Social Development

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Speaker 3: Agency as Social Investment agency? Did you know at that

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Speaker 3: point that he had been involved with MC skimming and

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Speaker 3: that there was the MC skimming affair situation bubbling away?

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Speaker 20: So he was appointed to the Social Investment Agency in September, Yeah,

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Speaker 20: and the complaint which the Independent Police Conduct Authority have investigated,

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Speaker 20: wasn't referred to them until October.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but his contract didn't start until November eleven, and

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Speaker 3: the Minister Mitchell found out November sixth. When did you

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Speaker 3: find out?

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Speaker 20: Well, I was briefed that there was the conduct complaint

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Speaker 20: going on, and around December I was informed by Andrew

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Speaker 20: Costa that he was being interviewed as part of that investigation.

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Speaker 20: And it has always been my position and other Minister's

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Speaker 20: position that that investigation needed to be conducted thoroughly and fairly,

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Speaker 20: and that no one should be leaping to any conclusions

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Speaker 20: about it until it had conducted its process.

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Speaker 3: So you were saying, Minister, you weren't told by your

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Speaker 3: colleague Mark Mitchell anything to do with this until December.

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Speaker 20: No, what I'm saying is that Andrew Costa informed me

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Speaker 20: in December that he was being interviewed as part process.

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Speaker 20: I had, I asked.

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Speaker 3: When you found out? Right? So when did you find out?

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Speaker 23: Well?

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Speaker 20: I you recall at that time was the Public Services

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Speaker 20: Minister and so as part of that, of course the

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Speaker 20: mix skimming appointment had been put on hold, and so

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Speaker 20: I've been informed of the IPCA investigations in that capacity.

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Speaker 3: Right, And yet so why did you, I mean, why

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Speaker 3: did we let this opointment proceed?

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Speaker 4: Which appointment of Costa?

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Speaker 20: Well, as I said to you, he was appointed in

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Speaker 20: September and the complaint wasn't made to the IPCA until October.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's contracted the start till November eleven. So

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Speaker 3: you could have canned before.

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Speaker 20: We couldn't have, but ran we couldn't have prejudged what

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Speaker 20: the outcome of that investigation would be that would not

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Speaker 20: have been grass, that would have been mutual.

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Speaker 3: So you knew there was something going on, but you

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Speaker 3: couldn't You were powerless to do anything about it. Was that?

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Speaker 3: Were you a bit worried?

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Speaker 20: I certainly didn't know the conclusions that the report has made.

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Speaker 20: In particular, I didn't know that information had been withheld

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Speaker 20: from the Public Service Commission about the nature of mix

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Speaker 20: Skimming's previous relationships. I didn't know that proper investigation had

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Speaker 20: not occurred into complaints that had been made. I didn't

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Speaker 20: know that attempts were made to rush that investigation and

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Speaker 20: indeed our the IPCA to conclude its findings quickly. None

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Speaker 20: of that was known to me.

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Speaker 3: Now that you know it, do you trust them.

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Speaker 20: Now that I know it? I am concerned. As I've said,

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Speaker 20: I was shocked and appalled when I read the conclusions

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Speaker 20: of that report. And having read that report, I rang

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Speaker 20: the Public Service Commissioner to convey my views about its findings.

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Speaker 3: This UBER decision, the government's going to be legislating in

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Speaker 3: this area anyway? Does that sort of because there's a

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Speaker 3: thousand UBER members who are union members who aren't part

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Speaker 3: of this case, there's only four members part of this

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Speaker 3: particular case, but it could have wider implications for all

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Speaker 3: unionized uber drivers. Would you stop that from happening?

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Speaker 20: Well, we knew that there had been some certainty about

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Speaker 20: this area of the law, which is why the government

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Speaker 20: had moved to provide more clarity so that everyone would

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Speaker 20: know where they stood going forward. The courts obviously have

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Speaker 20: made their decision, which we need to respect. I haven't

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Speaker 20: read the full judgment yet, so I can't give you

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Speaker 20: an interpretation of its full impact. But in general, the

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Speaker 20: government is very reluctant to retrospectively legislate on these matters.

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Speaker 20: So our position would be about the arrangements going forward.

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Speaker 3: Carbon price, carbon market. The price of carbon units about

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Speaker 3: sixty percent of what it was two weeks ago, even

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Speaker 3: before the government announced a bunch of changes, you know,

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Speaker 3: decoupling all that sort of stuff. Is this market credible?

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Speaker 3: I mean, you've got people coming out now saying basically,

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Speaker 3: just cancel it.

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Speaker 20: Well, we are committed to the emissions trading system, and

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Speaker 20: from our perspective, aligning the ets with our domestic targets

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Speaker 20: makes the most sense and is consistent with the law

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Speaker 20: which binds us on our mission reduction plans and actually

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Speaker 20: our decisions are in that nature are working. We're seeing

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Speaker 20: decarbonization across the economy. We're seeing that we're on target

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Speaker 20: to meet our missions reductions plans, and the ETS is

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Speaker 20: playing a very critical role in all of that. So

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Speaker 20: my message back to the market would be that the

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Speaker 20: emissions trading scheme is central to the government's and mission

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Speaker 20: reduction objectives and we intend that it should continue to be.

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Speaker 3: Anything about the warehouse getting into supermarkets.

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Speaker 20: Oh, that's something that I hear about from people all

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Speaker 20: the time.

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Speaker 3: Okay, what have you heard?

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Speaker 20: Well, I hear people speculating about it, and I always say, well,

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Speaker 20: the people to ask about their business plans are the

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Speaker 20: warehouse themselves, not me.

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Speaker 3: Minister, appreciate your time, Thanks so much for being with

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Speaker 3: me tonight. That's Nichola Willis, Finance Minister, quarter past Sex

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Speaker 3: Six seventeen News Talks. Be nice to have your company tonight. Now,

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Speaker 3: the Greens are saying they've come out today very strongly

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Speaker 3: in a strongly worded press statement, World's shortest press release.

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Speaker 3: By the way, I went and looked on their website

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Speaker 3: this afternoon and they are going to revoke destructive fast

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Speaker 3: track mining consents. We are going to rip them up.

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Speaker 3: Save the Greens. Okay, very good. However, when they were

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Speaker 3: questioned about the today, they said, it's not a bottom line.

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Speaker 3: We're talking here about coal, hard rock, gold and seabed mining.

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Speaker 3: How on God's green Earth is the Green Party not

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Speaker 3: got this as a bottom line. It would be like

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Speaker 3: the Maldi Party saying we're open to talks on the treaty.

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Speaker 3: You know, this is the basic job of a Green

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Speaker 3: Party surely is to oppose mining of the seabed and

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Speaker 3: coal mining, coal mining. How can being against coal mining,

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Speaker 3: banning coal mining, coming out against fast tracking of coal

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Speaker 3: mining not a bottom line for a Green Party? It

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Speaker 3: is insane six eighteen approaching.

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Speaker 2: The numbers and getting the results.

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Speaker 1: It's Ryan Bridge on the Business Hour with MAS Motor

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Speaker 1: Vehicle Insurance, your futures.

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Speaker 2: M goodhads used talks that'd.

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Speaker 3: Be he their credit. I should say that they are

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Speaker 3: making this announcement before any consensor issue to ensure complete

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Speaker 3: transparency for any one who might be getting one before

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Speaker 3: you know basically giving the market it heads up. What

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Speaker 3: you have to say is the right thing to do.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that's Kevin Haig, who's their former MP, coming in

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Speaker 3: to be chief of stuff. Someone growing up in the

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Speaker 3: room doing something proper. For one six nineteen Shane Sally Harbor,

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Speaker 3: Asset Management, Shane good Evening. Yeah, right, another mixed update

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01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:18,400
Speaker 3: from the warehouse.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, look, another tough thirteen weeks. This is thirteen weeks

1512
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 25: odd number on a to the second. In November they

1513
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:27,280
Speaker 25: sales there were six hundred and seventy four million. That

1514
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:29,719
Speaker 25: was on the zero point nine percent on the previous

1515
01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:32,680
Speaker 25: corresponding perier. And if we strip out the number of

1516
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:34,720
Speaker 25: stores are open and the number of different days, it

1517
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:37,719
Speaker 25: was pretty much flat plus zero point one. So pretty

1518
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:41,680
Speaker 25: tough sales environment is continuing for the warehouse. The red

1519
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 25: seed margins down a little bit, obviously very competitive out there.

1520
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:48,920
Speaker 25: They did announce a costs reset program. They're aiming to

1521
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 25: reduce their cost they're doing business to below thirty one

1522
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:55,559
Speaker 25: percent of sales, down from thirty two point two. But

1523
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 25: you know, the market was a bit weirre about it.

1524
01:16:57,479 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 25: Sheep rice that we have ship plosed down the zero

1525
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:02,760
Speaker 25: point six pers to seventy nine, seventy nine and a

1526
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:03,600
Speaker 25: half ashes there on.

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01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:06,960
Speaker 3: Now the PSI is still well. The warehouse might have

1528
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:09,639
Speaker 3: groceries to sell soon. We'll have to wait and see

1529
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 3: about that. Hey, the ps I number we got today,

1530
01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 3: so we've got manufacturing on Friday, that's now positive territory great,

1531
01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 3: but the PSI is still not a bit better, but

1532
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 3: still contracting.

1533
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 25: That's right. So performance of Services index, it measures monthly

1534
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:27,559
Speaker 25: the survey of the services industry. It's really indicator on activity.

1535
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:30,000
Speaker 25: If it's above fifty, it means it's expanding this below

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01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:30,839
Speaker 25: to debts contracting.

1537
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:32,840
Speaker 3: It ca it increased on.

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01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 25: The octave of month, that went up to forty eight

1539
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:38,839
Speaker 25: point seven, up zero point four, so up, but still

1540
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 25: because it's below fifty, it's still indicates that sector is

1541
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 25: still in tough times. It's still contracting. And you're right,

1542
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:48,320
Speaker 25: if we combine the services index with that more positive

1543
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 25: manufacturing index last week, we're starting to get to the

1544
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 25: point wherend where we're getting some positive indicators. The combo

1545
01:17:56,920 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 25: of the two suggests we get economic growth doune to

1546
01:17:59,320 --> 01:17:59,720
Speaker 25: come through.

1547
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:02,720
Speaker 3: Right, We're looking very busy week for market. We're both

1548
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:04,920
Speaker 3: here and internationally as well, what are you looking for?

1549
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 3: That in video result will be good.

1550
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:09,479
Speaker 25: Yeah, that will be a really important way. So we've

1551
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:12,320
Speaker 25: gone into this week pretty nervous markets for pretty weak

1552
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:15,640
Speaker 25: last week. Symniconductor Manufacture and Video its results out Wednesday

1553
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 25: in the US Thursday morning in New Zeign time, and

1554
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:22,800
Speaker 25: that provides some real fuel for this AI investment thing.

1555
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 25: As I said last week, the US share markers were

1556
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 25: dragged down by this tech sector. So really important that

1557
01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:32,000
Speaker 25: in video comes up with an okay sort of an update.

1558
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:33,559
Speaker 25: In fact day case, probably not going to be enough.

1559
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 25: It will have to be a good update. We've also

1560
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:38,599
Speaker 25: got the reopening of the US government. Data coming through

1561
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 25: other shutdowns closed shutdowns open, I should say, so this

1562
01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 25: will give us some more information as to whether there's

1563
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:49,760
Speaker 25: inflation data that stops the US Federal Reserve from cutting rates,

1564
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:53,479
Speaker 25: remembering the markets expecting the feed to keep cutting rights

1565
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 25: by about three quarters of a descent. And so on

1566
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:58,840
Speaker 25: Thursday in the US Friday morning ze On time, we'll

1567
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 25: get the job data out from September CONSENSUSUS for eighty

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01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:07,680
Speaker 25: thousand editions. The risk is it's either too hot to

1569
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 25: the five cut and then locally we've got nine companies

1570
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:15,639
Speaker 25: producing profit results, including companies like Sanford, Circo, Napier, port

1571
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:19,519
Speaker 25: Oceania in seven Companies, Filding and your Ginger Meetings precinct

1572
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 25: A two Goodman Sky Telly. The big ones key question

1573
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 25: for investor is going to be are the green shoots growing?

1574
01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:29,280
Speaker 25: Are we actually seeing them turn into a decent, juicy crop.

1575
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 3: We want to see plenty of green chain. Thank you,

1576
01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 3: Shane Sally Harbor Asset Management with US Tonight twenty two

1577
01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:35,679
Speaker 3: after six News Talks Edbig.

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01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 1: Whether it's macro, micro or just plain economics, it's all

1579
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:44,160
Speaker 1: on the Business Hour with Ryan Bridge and Mass Motor

1580
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:45,120
Speaker 1: Vehicle Insurance.

1581
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 2: Your futures in good hands.

1582
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:50,400
Speaker 3: News Talks EDB six twenty five. We've got a population

1583
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:53,679
Speaker 3: update today. In the year to September, arrivals were down

1584
01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty eight thousand. Net gain was twelve

1585
01:19:57,000 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 3: four hundred people for the year. Popular growth tracking at

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01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 3: zero point seven percent, So we are growing zero point

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01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:06,639
Speaker 3: seven percent in the last year. That is the same

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01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:10,560
Speaker 3: as the average for the OECD. Now, if you go

1589
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:13,120
Speaker 3: back to twenty twenty three, so and everyone's like, oh,

1590
01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:14,760
Speaker 3: it's the end of the world, you know, we're still

1591
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:19,280
Speaker 3: growing at average for OECD in terms of population. Twenty

1592
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:22,599
Speaker 3: twenty three, we were growing at two point three percent.

1593
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 3: The OECD average then was the same zero point seven percent,

1594
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 3: so we surged ahead. The only two countries in the

1595
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:33,439
Speaker 3: OECD that performed better than us all grew faster than

1596
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 3: us in that year was Iceland and Canada. So we're basically,

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01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 3: you know, we had a boom. Now we've got a

1598
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:43,000
Speaker 3: bit of a slump. It'll come back again. Population right

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01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:44,200
Speaker 3: now five point three million.

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Speaker 2: There's no business like show business. Half pluck.

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01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:57,280
Speaker 3: If you're going to a Robbie Williams concert, turns out

1602
01:20:57,320 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 3: he may no longer be able to actually see his fan,

1603
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:02,800
Speaker 3: to see you in the stands. And the reason is

1604
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:06,679
Speaker 3: a bit weird. He's fifty one and he's got rapidly

1605
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 3: deteriorating eyesight. Not because he's old, because not that old.

1606
01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 3: It's because he's taken too much o zempic. He reckons.

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01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:16,479
Speaker 3: He was an early adopter of the drug, said it

1608
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 3: changed his life completely. Now, he says, when he goes

1609
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:21,280
Speaker 3: to a football game, the men running around on the

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01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 3: pitch are just blobs. Very likely from where he's sitting

1611
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:27,800
Speaker 3: in the corporate box, that's what they look like. A

1612
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 3: zembic advocates online are saying Robbie's personal experience might not

1613
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 3: tell the whole scientific story.

1614
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:36,640
Speaker 8: Aaron als is looking across the yuppie ones have not

1615
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:39,280
Speaker 8: find a clear overall increase in risk, so rate nine

1616
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:41,960
Speaker 8: it is a signal being investigated, not approven.

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01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:43,320
Speaker 3: This will do this to youse situation.

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01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:45,679
Speaker 8: I specialists are basically saying, if you're in a yuppy

1619
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 8: one and you know to sudden business changes gets you

1620
01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:48,479
Speaker 8: hot quickly so they can markreat what.

1621
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:48,880
Speaker 6: Is going on?

1622
01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:51,400
Speaker 3: Okay, question is what's the point of being skinny if

1623
01:21:51,439 --> 01:21:53,760
Speaker 3: you can't see it? You know what I mean? As

1624
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:56,040
Speaker 3: you're looking in the mirror after all of the you

1625
01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:59,439
Speaker 3: know you haven't had a burger in three years. Everyone

1626
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:02,559
Speaker 3: says you look amazing, you look fantastic. I've never seen

1627
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:07,880
Speaker 3: you look like and then you can't see it, Like

1628
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 3: sex with the beautiful person in the dark, what is

1629
01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:13,479
Speaker 3: the point? Twenty seven after six newspapers to.

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01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 1: Eat everything from SMEs to the big corporates, the business

1631
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:28,320
Speaker 1: hours with Ryan Bridge and Mass Motor Vehicle Insurance, your

1632
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:32,200
Speaker 1: futures in goodhaads news talks EDB want you in.

1633
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:43,200
Speaker 3: Seven. You're on news Talk ZB the official final result

1634
01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:46,480
Speaker 3: of the compted takeover boats being released and as expected,

1635
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:48,839
Speaker 3: are not going to happen. This is the proposed takeover

1636
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:52,360
Speaker 3: by Florins. It's failed. Forty fifty four point twenty nine

1637
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:55,679
Speaker 3: percent of shareholders were in favor. You need seventy five percent.

1638
01:22:56,160 --> 01:22:58,519
Speaker 3: A struggling Manouka Honey company has to come up with

1639
01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:01,679
Speaker 3: a plan B pretty quick. It's got sixty million dollars

1640
01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 3: a debt right now that needs to be repaid in

1641
01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:07,120
Speaker 3: the first quarter of next year. Carl Graydon is CEO

1642
01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:10,680
Speaker 3: with me now, Carl, good evening, Good evening, thanks having me.

1643
01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:12,200
Speaker 3: So what's the plan now? How are you going to

1644
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:12,840
Speaker 3: pay this debt?

1645
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:18,800
Speaker 26: Well, the shareholders have spoken and at the end of

1646
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 26: the day, we've now got a business as CEO that

1647
01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:24,960
Speaker 26: I need to continue to hit the results and deliver

1648
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:27,360
Speaker 26: against the promises we've made. That's the first thing we

1649
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:30,439
Speaker 26: need to do. And the board is very clear that

1650
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:32,760
Speaker 26: they've now got to work with urgency, with both our

1651
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:36,760
Speaker 26: lenders and advisors to deliver a plan big so as

1652
01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:39,120
Speaker 26: it expects, they have been thinking about this for quite

1653
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 26: some time as a contingency, quite a thoughtful board, and

1654
01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:46,679
Speaker 26: now the time is to act as a leadership team

1655
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:49,479
Speaker 26: to deliver on the results, and the board is entirely

1656
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:50,760
Speaker 26: focused on the recapitalization.

1657
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 3: You don't sound too worried about this. Is there a

1658
01:23:53,080 --> 01:23:54,320
Speaker 3: risk the company's going to fall over?

1659
01:23:56,520 --> 01:24:00,840
Speaker 26: I think that there is always collaboration to be had

1660
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:05,839
Speaker 26: with our lending partners. We will be requiring equity going forwards,

1661
01:24:06,280 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 26: and I think that as a result of that, we

1662
01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:15,200
Speaker 26: need to be always thinking about the future scenarios. We

1663
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 26: have a great brand, we have a great shareholder base,

1664
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:21,720
Speaker 26: and at the end of the day, we need to

1665
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:24,720
Speaker 26: continue to deliver on the promise. And the good thing

1666
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 26: is in the last few months we have begun to

1667
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:31,880
Speaker 26: deliver against the potential of the brand and deliver what

1668
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:32,880
Speaker 26: we said we were going to do.

1669
01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:35,120
Speaker 3: Yes, that's the priority, No question about the brand. The

1670
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:38,519
Speaker 3: brand is really strong. How's that recapitalization going to work?

1671
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:39,160
Speaker 3: Do you think?

1672
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 26: Well, I think it's a little bit early to actually

1673
01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:48,479
Speaker 26: talk about that with any confidence. We're working alongside our

1674
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 26: landing partners. We're working alongside the board to ensure that

1675
01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:55,719
Speaker 26: all options continue to be explored. They have been working

1676
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:58,920
Speaker 26: on this and quite quite some time as a contingency.

1677
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:02,600
Speaker 26: We'll be able to put it back to the instex

1678
01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:05,240
Speaker 26: and to your listeners as soon as we have the

1679
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:07,280
Speaker 26: clarity on that. But so there is a lot of

1680
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:08,400
Speaker 26: work going on behind the scenes.

1681
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:12,120
Speaker 3: What options are you talking about, Curent, Well, we will

1682
01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 3: need to work alongside our lending partners.

1683
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 26: We will need to go back out to market and

1684
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 26: potentially work on a recapitalization plan. And with that recapitalization

1685
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:26,160
Speaker 26: comes a whole series of options which i have not

1686
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:28,640
Speaker 26: yet been fully explored. So we'll be working with our

1687
01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:32,679
Speaker 26: advisors and with our lenders to ensure that the brand

1688
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 26: is able to thrive.

1689
01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:38,280
Speaker 3: Why is there an oversupply or a supply issue with

1690
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:39,160
Speaker 3: Honey at the moment?

1691
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 26: The post COVID situation really hit the industry quite hard.

1692
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:52,400
Speaker 26: We had an oversupply of honey coming out of the

1693
01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:55,760
Speaker 26: apiaries across the entire country. We had a surge in

1694
01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:58,760
Speaker 26: high numbers which have since reduced significantly.

1695
01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:00,880
Speaker 17: And as the.

1696
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:08,439
Speaker 26: Global market was looking for natural solutions to boost the community,

1697
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:11,680
Speaker 26: they look to Monica Honey and that drove confidence that

1698
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:16,320
Speaker 26: that would continue on That growth sold right at the

1699
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:19,920
Speaker 26: time as people were investing in additional hives so now

1700
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:22,799
Speaker 26: that we're seeing the high numbers reduce and our sales

1701
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:27,759
Speaker 26: rates increase, we're actually confident that that is no longer

1702
01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:29,840
Speaker 26: going to be the case. It will work through this

1703
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:33,320
Speaker 26: glut of honey we've had in the past, but it's

1704
01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:38,360
Speaker 26: still overhanging us and I think it will take a

1705
01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:40,840
Speaker 26: few months for it to continue to flow through the system.

1706
01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:43,000
Speaker 3: And Conveter will be around for a long time yet.

1707
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:44,439
Speaker 6: Well.

1708
01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:48,719
Speaker 26: Conveter is the number one brand globally in Monica Haney.

1709
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:54,080
Speaker 26: We have the best distribution network globally. We have trusted

1710
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:57,519
Speaker 26: partners around the world, we have some great aparies, and

1711
01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:01,800
Speaker 26: we're highly innovative with science based So when you're in

1712
01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:04,919
Speaker 26: our position, it is our brand that has the reputation,

1713
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:07,720
Speaker 26: and that's what we're going to continue to invest in.

1714
01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:09,559
Speaker 26: And we love to be here for a very long time.

1715
01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:11,759
Speaker 26: We've been here for fifty years and look to continue

1716
01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:12,599
Speaker 26: to be here for other.

1717
01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:14,960
Speaker 3: Fifty All right, Carl, Carl, to appreciate your time tonight,

1718
01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:18,160
Speaker 3: Carl Graydon, who's convinced our chief executive it is twenty

1719
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:22,519
Speaker 3: to seven. It's quite crazy if you think about how

1720
01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:25,400
Speaker 3: little attention that we have to pay to illegal migration

1721
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 3: in this country when you compare us to the rest

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Speaker 3: of the world. You know, everyone talks about the tyranny

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Speaker 3: of distance. Well, such a bad thing. In the UK,

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Speaker 3: Starmer and Labor are going hard on this. I'll have

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Speaker 3: more on that in a second. In fact, we'll speak

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Speaker 3: to Gavin Graney, a UK correspondent, about that shortly. But

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Speaker 3: farage is basically pushing them further to the right. Look

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Speaker 3: at America, look at most of Europe. Elbow in Australia

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Speaker 3: and it's parties on left and right who are getting

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Speaker 3: hard on illegal migration, which tells you there's an actual problem,

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Speaker 3: not just a perception of a problem. Look at Chili

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Speaker 3: of all places. You know, Trump says South America is

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Speaker 3: the root of all of them migration problems. Well, even

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Speaker 3: in South America, Chile is having problems. They're voting for

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Speaker 3: a new president at the moment. What's the big issue there?

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Speaker 3: The one that's got everyone worried and agitated? Gang crime?

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01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:13,040
Speaker 3: Who do they blame illegal migrants from Venezuela. So it

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Speaker 3: doesn't matter where you go in the world, except apparently

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01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:17,920
Speaker 3: in New Zealand and the South Pacific, illegal migration is

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Speaker 3: the issue Number one or number two next to economy

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01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:26,800
Speaker 3: or behind economy for voters front of mind and think

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Speaker 3: about that. It wouldn't even register here, would it, Shaban

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Speaker 3: and mart Mud This is that Ma mood I should

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Speaker 3: say is the Home sectuary in the UK and this

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01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:39,679
Speaker 3: is how she describes And this is a labor minister

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Speaker 3: describing the situation with their current illegal migration.

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Speaker 27: It is an issue that is dividing our country and

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Speaker 27: I see this polarization all over the country, including in

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Speaker 27: my own constituency. We have a system that is out

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Speaker 27: of control, it's unfair and it's putting huge pressure on communities.

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Speaker 3: She's making a big announcement tonight our time, Devin Gray

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Speaker 3: with details next.

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Speaker 2: If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

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01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:10,040
Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Ryan Bridge and May's motor vehicle insurance.

1755
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Speaker 1: Your futures in good hands, us talks, it'd be.

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Speaker 3: It is sixteen minutes away from seven Given Gray are

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Speaker 3: UK correspondent with us this evening, Gavin, good evening, Good

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Speaker 3: morning to you.

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Speaker 6: Hi.

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Speaker 3: Now you've got a bigger, big announcement coming from the

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Speaker 3: Home Secretary.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, and do you know what this has been so

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Speaker 23: widely leaked?

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Speaker 2: Ryan?

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Speaker 23: As I'm beginning to think we've seen the whole thing already,

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Speaker 23: but yeah, we're waiting now from the Home Secretary the

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Speaker 23: latest details of a plan to make asylum seekers are

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Speaker 23: a much sort of stricter system of how they're managed

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Speaker 23: here in the UK. We're now finding out that the

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Speaker 23: Home Secretary plans to impose what are being called Trump

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Speaker 23: style visa bans on three African countries. In our words,

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Speaker 23: if Angola, Namibia, and the Democratic Republic of Congo do

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Speaker 23: not start to take back illegal migrants from the UK

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Speaker 23: who are being deported, then they will face sanctions blocking

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Speaker 23: their tourists, VIPs and business people from traveling to Britain. Now,

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Speaker 23: in the past, this is something that Donald Trump has

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Speaker 23: done in order to force countries to accept illegals from

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Speaker 23: those countries, and the UK and the past has just gone,

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Speaker 23: oh well you're not accepting them back where you should

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Speaker 23: accept them back. Ah, well, there's still he is sort

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Speaker 23: of thing. So now this is a sign that this

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Speaker 23: announcement that we're expecting a little later today is going

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Speaker 23: to be much much more far reaching than we thought.

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Speaker 23: We now hear that people will have to be an

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Speaker 23: asylum seeker for twenty years before they granted asylum it

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Speaker 23: currently stands a permanent residency. Rather, it currently stands at

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Speaker 23: five years. And this is all part of this government

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Speaker 23: showing that it is tough on illegal migration and it

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Speaker 23: is doing something about it. They are absolutely on the

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Speaker 23: floor in the opinion polls and no doubt now it

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Speaker 23: looks like asylum is going to be one of the

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Speaker 23: big features in the opinion polls for any future election.

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Speaker 3: Kevin House and Sea, can you look saying all of

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01:31:02,680 --> 01:31:04,720
Speaker 3: this when you've just you know, for the last I

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01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:06,880
Speaker 3: saw it and the stam a few weeks they're beshing

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Speaker 3: faraj Is are racist for raising the issue and here

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Speaker 3: they are banning, yes, you know, restrictions on Angola.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, and here they are doing exactly the sorts of

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Speaker 23: things he was saying that we should be doing. It's

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Speaker 23: very very odd, but I think it shows the political

1801
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Speaker 23: fever that we're in at the moment on this topic.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely now. Sarah Ferguson former you know Duchess Head a

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01:31:29,920 --> 01:31:33,240
Speaker 3: children's book and scandal comes along, book gets delayed. What's

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Speaker 3: happening now, Well, it.

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Speaker 23: Looks like it's been withdrawn from sale all together. At

1806
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Speaker 23: the moment that we're still waiting actually to hear from

1807
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Speaker 23: the publisher, who's not responded to any requests for comment.

1808
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Speaker 23: So Sarah Ferguson's new book called Flora and Fern Kindness

1809
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:51,080
Speaker 23: along the Way, initially due to be published on the

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Speaker 23: ninth of October, then it was put back and Amazon

1811
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Speaker 23: said it would be available from the twentieth of November,

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01:31:57,000 --> 01:31:59,600
Speaker 23: so a couple of days time. But it's now no

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Speaker 23: longer listed on the website at all, and there are

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Speaker 23: no plans as yet. It was said to reinstate a

1815
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Speaker 23: new deadline for it to be released, as I said,

1816
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Speaker 23: the publisher, New Frontier Publishing, not responding to requests for comment.

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Speaker 23: Sixty six year old Sarah Ferguson, who of course lost

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Speaker 23: her title as Duchess when her ex husband Andrew mount

1819
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Speaker 23: Batman Windsor relinquished his use of the Duke of York

1820
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Speaker 23: title and now sort of stands with a career that

1821
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Speaker 23: has done quite well in children's books, but sort of

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Speaker 23: now stands on a precipice. Will she ever be able

1823
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Speaker 23: to publish again or are the publishers Are the book

1824
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Speaker 23: world people just saying no, you'r tainted goods, We won't

1825
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Speaker 23: have you at all? Either way, it's been a nice

1826
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Speaker 23: earner for her in the past, and one wonders how

1827
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Speaker 23: she's going to make that up in future.

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Speaker 3: That's interesting. I was as you were talking, thinking, why

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Speaker 3: would anyone buy a children's book from Fugi. You know,

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Speaker 3: of all the role models for your children, is that

1831
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:54,120
Speaker 3: we you'd point your finger. I don't know, but you

1832
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Speaker 3: sind she's done them before and they've sold.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they have.

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Speaker 23: But that was, of course before all this scandal broken,

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Speaker 23: and of course, you know, being tainted with that, it

1836
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Speaker 23: may make a big impact on her career.

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Speaker 3: Budgie The Little Helicopter, I'm told is one of her

1838
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Speaker 3: books that yes, yes, all right. Germany's coalition government agreed

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Speaker 3: to a new military service plan. This is to boost

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Speaker 3: troop numbers.

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Speaker 23: After wrangling, yeah, a huge amount of talk and wrangling

1842
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Speaker 23: about this, and of course it comes with sensitivity that

1843
01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:27,000
Speaker 23: Germany should have such a strong army after the World

1844
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Speaker 23: Wars of the last century. Nevertheless, it's finally got the

1845
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Speaker 23: go ahead. Now the current number of troops is one

1846
01:33:32,280 --> 01:33:36,519
Speaker 23: hundred and eighty two thousand. It wants to start military service,

1847
01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:40,280
Speaker 23: so the sudden forcing of young men it's focusing on

1848
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Speaker 23: at the moment to join the army for a short

1849
01:33:43,120 --> 01:33:47,679
Speaker 23: period of time as a conscription type thing, and eventually

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Speaker 23: it could possibly be an army of roughly almost half

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Speaker 23: a million. That's using two hundred thousand reservists, but they

1852
01:33:55,800 --> 01:33:57,800
Speaker 23: want to get the regular army up to somewhere over

1853
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Speaker 23: two hundred and sixty thousand over the next ten years,

1854
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Speaker 23: so they're doing it in stages.

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Speaker 1: At the moment.

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Speaker 23: The new military service plan will make it compulsory for

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Speaker 23: all eighteen year old men to fill out a questionnaire

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Speaker 23: on their suitability to serve, but then from twenty twenty

1859
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Speaker 23: seven to undergo medical screening and then in the future

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Speaker 23: to effectively force those people to join. Slightly different rules

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Speaker 23: for young women at the moment, but it's certainly a focus.

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Speaker 23: From next year, all eighteen year old men and women

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Speaker 23: going to be sent a questionnaire and willingness asked about

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Speaker 23: their willingness to join the armed forces, and it will

1865
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Speaker 23: be compulsory for men and voluntary for women. Yeah, big,

1866
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Speaker 23: big questions about German's defense operation with it being such

1867
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Speaker 23: a low payer into NATO in the past, something that

1868
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Speaker 23: has really caught Donald Trump's eye.

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Speaker 3: And aire interesting. Thanks so much, Kevin Gavin gray Are

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Speaker 3: UK correspondent. It's ten minutes away from seven. How hard

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Speaker 3: would it be to write a children's book anyway? It would?

1872
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Speaker 3: It not be the easiest thing in the world. I mean,

1873
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Speaker 3: maybe being all judgment to no idea what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 3: To be fair, I don't read a huge number of

1875
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Speaker 3: children's books unless I'm visiting my niece and nephew and

1876
01:35:06,640 --> 01:35:08,000
Speaker 3: you've got to do bedtime duties.

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Speaker 28: But apart from that, that one by the Duchess of Sussex,

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Speaker 28: the what is it the park Bench or something that

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Speaker 28: she wrote that got some very very nasty reviews with me,

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Speaker 28: that's so clearly it's not like, yeah, not everybody.

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Speaker 18: Can do it.

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Speaker 3: But were the reviews from children or were they from adults?

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Speaker 28: That they may have been from adults, Yeah, Like.

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Speaker 3: I mean you could couldn't you just sit ak it

1885
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Speaker 3: in front of the phone book and they'd be entertained?

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Speaker 20: No?

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Speaker 3: I mean if you okay, if you put the phone

1888
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Speaker 3: book with pictures, would they not be entertained? And isn't

1889
01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:36,760
Speaker 3: it about how when you're reading a story to a cat,

1890
01:35:36,800 --> 01:35:39,280
Speaker 3: it's about how you do your voice to keep them entertained.

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Speaker 3: You could read the back of a you know, pick

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Speaker 3: and mixed jar. I don't know. You could read the

1893
01:35:45,120 --> 01:35:47,839
Speaker 3: back of a jam jar and they'd be entertained, wouldn't

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Speaker 3: They aren't kids easy.

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Speaker 1: Nine to seven it's the Heather Topsy Allen Drive Full

1896
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Speaker 1: Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by Newstalk ZBI News Talk.

1897
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Speaker 3: Said b it's six minutes away from seven I mentioned earlier,

1898
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Speaker 3: and it's just a personal view. I think the warehouse

1899
01:36:05,920 --> 01:36:08,320
Speaker 3: is going to get into supermarkets. I just think it

1900
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Speaker 3: makes sense once you get rid of the stranglehold the

1901
01:36:11,920 --> 01:36:15,280
Speaker 3: dropoly has on those contracts with the suppliers. Once you

1902
01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:18,360
Speaker 3: start dealing with that with legislation, you open the field up.

1903
01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:21,960
Speaker 3: They've got the buildings. Well, it's a no brainer in

1904
01:36:22,040 --> 01:36:24,040
Speaker 3: my mind. But anyway, we'll smait and see what happens.

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Speaker 3: This text to says Ryan. Here's why that New Zealand

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01:36:27,240 --> 01:36:30,040
Speaker 3: business and the Warehouse others like them won't enter the

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01:36:30,080 --> 01:36:32,840
Speaker 3: grocery market even if they wanted to. They don't have

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Speaker 3: the right shelves and they don't have the money to

1909
01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:38,240
Speaker 3: buy them. Also, they can't handle the stock turnover. I

1910
01:36:38,439 --> 01:36:40,080
Speaker 3: know this. I've worked in the industry for a very

1911
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Speaker 3: long time. Surely shelves can't be the issue. How much?

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Speaker 3: How expensive is a shelf? You know, how really how

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Speaker 3: expensive that is? Big al? I don't understand are there

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Speaker 3: special types? I don't understand texture, your logic. They look

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Speaker 3: cheap to me. They look like you could push them

1916
01:36:57,240 --> 01:37:00,439
Speaker 3: if there's nothing in them and they'll fall over. How expensive?

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Speaker 28: Co hang on, what about those fancy ones that you

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Speaker 28: get in the produce section where the shelf has like

1919
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Speaker 28: you know, it keeps all the lettuce and stuff cold.

1920
01:37:07,560 --> 01:37:09,400
Speaker 28: You know that's not just a shelf like.

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Speaker 3: A refrigeration unit. Yeah, yeah, it's all yeah. I mean

1922
01:37:12,560 --> 01:37:16,080
Speaker 3: that's electricity probably upfront cost bit of electricity. But you know,

1923
01:37:16,160 --> 01:37:17,080
Speaker 3: if you're selling enough.

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Speaker 28: And you need lots of them, right like if you're

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Speaker 28: going to put out in maybe waven she isn't the issue.

1926
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Speaker 3: If our problem is shelving and the reason we don't

1927
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Speaker 3: have supermarkets is because the shelves are too expensive, that

1928
01:37:30,240 --> 01:37:32,080
Speaker 3: doesn't make sense. Would be a very New Zealand thing

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Speaker 3: there would be all right, hey, what are we going

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Speaker 3: out to.

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Speaker 28: Ends homes by Deftones to play us out tonight? Good news,

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Speaker 28: deaft Tones is coming back to New Zealand. They're going

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Speaker 28: to be playing. Oh it's the first time they've been

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Speaker 28: back since ten years apparently. So the tickets are on

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Speaker 28: sale very soon for the twenty first of November. It's

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Speaker 28: going to be one show at Spark Arena in Auckland.

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Speaker 28: You will have to get yourself up to Auckland. It's

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Speaker 28: going to be on Wednesday, the thirteenth of May next year,

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Speaker 28: so a Wednesday as well, so you might need to

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Speaker 28: get some time off work put into that now. But yeah,

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Speaker 28: the support one, it's not too bad either. Into pol

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Speaker 28: And echa vandal for that one.

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Speaker 3: All right, okay, sounds good and I'll take your word

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Speaker 3: for it. Thank you and thank you for listening everyone.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for your feedback. Great to have your company tonight.

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Speaker 3: Heather should hopefully be back with you tomorrow evening. I'll

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Speaker 3: be back tomorrow morning on the Held Now show. Andrew

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Speaker 3: will take care of early edition. Have a great Monday evening.

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