1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Barry Sober, Senior political correspondence with. 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 2: US Hallo Barry, Good afternoon, Heaven. 3 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: J mcskimming is pleaded guilty. 4 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 2: Well, isn't it incredible? I can't remember a top policeman 5 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 2: like this ever being charged. And it'll see no doubt 6 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 2: the Minister of Police wiping his brow Mark Mitchell because 7 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 2: he came so close to being the Commissioner of Police. 8 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 2: It's recommended by Mark to the Prime Minister. The Prime 9 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: Minister then refers it up to the Governor General and 10 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 2: the appointment is made for five years. And you just 11 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 2: imagine if they'd made a different choice and jevn mcskimming 12 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: would now be the Commissioner of Police or would have been. 13 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 2: So the government escaped the bullet there, there's no doubt 14 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:44,959 Speaker 2: about that. And I've got to say if you look 15 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 2: at the statement from the Commissioner of Police Richard Chambers, 16 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: very strong. Indeed, he said his behavior was disgraceful and 17 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 2: it's right that he has been held to account for it. 18 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 2: He said it's not only criminal, it goes against the 19 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: core values of the police and really it has dented 20 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: the police. This just disgraceful. So I understand you're going 21 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 2: to be talked to, talking to Mark Mitchell and he'll 22 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 2: have more disailer. 23 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, now, did this some business with the school boards 24 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: and the Treaty of Whitehanguy blow up in Parliament? 25 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 2: Well, not really blew up, but certainly it showed how 26 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 2: passionate the Minister of Education, Erica Stanford is about it. 27 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: The government's of course, removing the requirement for schools to 28 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 2: give effect to the Treaty of waitang the other boards 29 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 2: with the government saying the crown its responsibility is the 30 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 2: Treaty of Waitangi and it shouldn't be volunteer boards of schools. 31 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: And you can understand that the Education Minister was asked 32 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: to justify the removal of the treaty requirement by the 33 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 2: school boards. The questions were being fired by the troubled 34 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: Maldi party's co leader Debi no Riwa Packer, sitting whispering 35 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 2: to each other behind her. Directly behind her where the 36 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 2: party's troublesome MPs Marimino Carpakini and Takuta Ferris. Eric Is Stanford, 37 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 2: though she was charged as she answered the questions. Here 38 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 2: she is. 39 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 3: Achievement data or Tamardiki. Mardi has been declining for decades. 40 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 3: The gap is yawning. And if we want to talk 41 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 3: about a treaty breach, that is it. The evidence that 42 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 3: I have is it only ten percent of Marty's students 43 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 3: are at curriculum for mathematics by the time they go 44 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 3: to high school, seventy eight percent, more than a year behind. 45 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 4: What message does the minister think this sends to Tomata 46 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 4: Ki Mardi's sitting in classrooms today that their language, their 47 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 4: culture and identity no longer belong in the system meant 48 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 4: to uplift them. 49 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 3: What it sends is the signal that we take our 50 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 3: core crown responsibility for upholding the Treaty very seriously when 51 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 3: it comes to raising achievement for Marti's students, and we 52 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 3: are the first government in a very long time to 53 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 3: see any of those results turn around. 54 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 2: And you don't often hear a minister's reply being applauded, 55 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 2: but she certainly much longer than I played you then. 56 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, interesting from debing Yard. So Mike Davidson has made 57 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 1: in speech this is the new bossy. 58 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, well he's the replacement for the non binary Benjamin Doyle. 59 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: Mike Davison made has made in speech Davidson, as far 60 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 2: as I know, is thankfully he hymn, which is a 61 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 2: great relief to me. But he says the major problems 62 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: facing the country is climate change, and he's advocating public transport, 63 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 2: bikes and electric cars, and he says he's going to 64 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 2: be keeping the blow torch on the government. 65 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 5: I stand in this house today concerned for our future. 66 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 5: Our communities are struggling, and the environment is under attack, 67 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 5: and politics across the globe and here in New Zealand 68 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 5: is becoming more confrontational and toxic. We are failing out, Tamareki. 69 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 5: But while I'm concerned, there is hope. Over the next 70 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 5: twelve months, I will work with my Green colleagues to 71 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 5: hold this government to accounts, to challenge them, and to 72 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 5: show that people of al Tierrale what a government with 73 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 5: a greenheart will offer our country, a country that upholds 74 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 5: the Titi old white hangy, that takes real action on 75 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 5: climate change and lifts people out of poverty. 76 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 2: There you go, That's what the Greens are offering is 77 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 2: so go out and vote next year because they'll be 78 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 2: part of the coalition. Government of Labour has anything to 79 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 2: do with it. You, But it is true isn't it. 80 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 2: What I'm saying is unless Labour can win in its 81 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 2: own role. 82 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: I'm still on your complete inability to just handle different pronouns. 83 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: I am glad Bushy's gone to glad Bussy's gone. So 84 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: that the BSA complains about you and your inability to 85 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: do it. 86 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 2: End well, the BSA should end. That's what I thought. 87 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: Okay, very so for senior political correspondent. 88 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 2: Thanks very much for more from Hither du Drive. Listen 89 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 2: live to News Talks it B from four pm weekdays, 90 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 2: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio