1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,387 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:12,067 Speaker 1: from News Talk ZB. 3 00:00:12,827 --> 00:00:16,627 Speaker 2: James mcconey, a regular part of our Sundays. So much 4 00:00:16,667 --> 00:00:19,427 Speaker 2: to talk about, James, can we start with all Blacks Ireland. 5 00:00:20,227 --> 00:00:22,227 Speaker 2: You've given it the overnight test, as we all have. 6 00:00:22,587 --> 00:00:25,107 Speaker 2: What stands out most about yesterday's one in Dublin for you? 7 00:00:26,267 --> 00:00:29,427 Speaker 3: Well, look, I don't usually do this, pony, but I 8 00:00:29,427 --> 00:00:31,827 Speaker 3: think I'm ready to talk about tight forwards. I think 9 00:00:31,867 --> 00:00:37,467 Speaker 3: I am ready fair enough, fair enough, let's do this, 10 00:00:38,267 --> 00:00:40,947 Speaker 3: Let's do this. I think all Moore was huge. It 11 00:00:40,987 --> 00:00:42,907 Speaker 3: was a big step up for him because he came 12 00:00:42,987 --> 00:00:47,907 Speaker 3: in replacing Cody Taylor. Questions about his throwing, but he 13 00:00:48,067 --> 00:00:51,507 Speaker 3: was massive and that assists the pickup offers bootlacers, so 14 00:00:51,627 --> 00:00:54,027 Speaker 3: tis he actually had to scoop one up before him 15 00:00:54,027 --> 00:00:57,267 Speaker 3: as well. But Will Jordan's try our only try, I 16 00:00:57,307 --> 00:01:01,387 Speaker 3: think was just crucial clutch play from him, and I 17 00:01:01,747 --> 00:01:04,907 Speaker 3: can't say enough about him. You must have been stoked 18 00:01:04,947 --> 00:01:07,707 Speaker 3: as a canesman. Oh. 19 00:01:07,747 --> 00:01:09,747 Speaker 2: I loved it, loved watching a suffer one more and 20 00:01:09,827 --> 00:01:12,227 Speaker 2: I thought, you know, you talk about core roles. One 21 00:01:12,267 --> 00:01:14,787 Speaker 2: of these trendy phrases throwing into the line out. There 22 00:01:14,827 --> 00:01:17,107 Speaker 2: was just that one at the start that was not straight. 23 00:01:17,587 --> 00:01:21,427 Speaker 2: Ireland didn't contest. There was some confusion around whether that's 24 00:01:21,427 --> 00:01:23,787 Speaker 2: actually a rule at the moment or not in the 25 00:01:23,827 --> 00:01:26,667 Speaker 2: Autumn Internationals. But otherwise I think around the field great, 26 00:01:26,827 --> 00:01:29,307 Speaker 2: he made his tackles and his line out throwing was good. 27 00:01:30,147 --> 00:01:33,627 Speaker 3: Yeah. And then beside him, I think our front rowers 28 00:01:33,667 --> 00:01:37,307 Speaker 3: the props have been outstanding. The reserves coming on Torssi 29 00:01:37,427 --> 00:01:40,027 Speaker 3: and Talum the fussy the best in the world really 30 00:01:40,827 --> 00:01:45,147 Speaker 3: in terms of steadying the scrum. They're almost unplayable. You 31 00:01:45,187 --> 00:01:47,867 Speaker 3: could tell the Irish we're not keen on scrum. The 32 00:01:47,907 --> 00:01:49,787 Speaker 3: guy with the corners was dreading it when he had 33 00:01:49,787 --> 00:01:53,427 Speaker 3: to come back on and it's been subbed off and 34 00:01:53,507 --> 00:01:57,547 Speaker 3: he just said, no, please don't make me base another Behemo. 35 00:01:58,027 --> 00:02:02,147 Speaker 3: And so I think the other thing is Patrick Tupulto. 36 00:02:02,227 --> 00:02:03,827 Speaker 3: I just want to give a special shout out to 37 00:02:03,867 --> 00:02:06,587 Speaker 3: him because I think he's been world class for a 38 00:02:06,587 --> 00:02:08,667 Speaker 3: long time and a beast for a long time. But 39 00:02:08,707 --> 00:02:11,267 Speaker 3: we just haven't seen them play in big All Blacks tests, 40 00:02:11,307 --> 00:02:14,667 Speaker 3: and that's mainly because of Brittallic and white Lock and 41 00:02:14,707 --> 00:02:17,867 Speaker 3: Scott Barrett. They formed a sort of blockade where you've 42 00:02:17,867 --> 00:02:21,627 Speaker 3: got your three world class locks, but two plots every 43 00:02:21,707 --> 00:02:25,067 Speaker 3: bit world class. And so it's actually we're lucky that 44 00:02:25,147 --> 00:02:28,387 Speaker 3: he's still around and playing at that level, because I 45 00:02:28,427 --> 00:02:31,507 Speaker 3: don't I think only South Africa can emulate that by 46 00:02:31,547 --> 00:02:34,267 Speaker 3: bringing it on. R G. Stamen rights as a world 47 00:02:34,307 --> 00:02:36,627 Speaker 3: class Locke substitute. 48 00:02:37,107 --> 00:02:40,587 Speaker 2: Absolutely, Scott Barrett too, Paulvai, who's really come on? And 49 00:02:41,227 --> 00:02:44,747 Speaker 2: Patrick Tweek Polotto. It's a good little a good little trio, 50 00:02:44,827 --> 00:02:49,067 Speaker 2: a good big trio of big second rowers to choose from. Hey, 51 00:02:49,147 --> 00:02:52,267 Speaker 2: now I've done the sums. Twenty three thirteen. That's thirty 52 00:02:52,387 --> 00:02:56,467 Speaker 2: six points in that game. This morning at TWIG both 53 00:02:56,507 --> 00:02:59,667 Speaker 2: England and Australia scored that many by themselves forty two 54 00:02:59,787 --> 00:03:01,147 Speaker 2: thirty seven no defense. 55 00:03:02,147 --> 00:03:04,347 Speaker 3: I know it's crazy really, but I mean, look, the 56 00:03:04,427 --> 00:03:09,147 Speaker 3: thing is what they did is by picking Joe Schmidt, 57 00:03:09,147 --> 00:03:13,347 Speaker 3: by picking Joseph Suele was just straight away gave him 58 00:03:13,507 --> 00:03:16,507 Speaker 3: X factors, something they've been missing. And it shows the 59 00:03:16,627 --> 00:03:19,027 Speaker 3: difference of having an X factor player on your team. 60 00:03:19,547 --> 00:03:22,267 Speaker 3: But the All Blacks have the opposite problem. This is 61 00:03:22,427 --> 00:03:26,547 Speaker 3: an abundance. You know, we leave someone like you Hoskinsituto 62 00:03:26,587 --> 00:03:30,027 Speaker 3: at home and then we bring you know, unearthed Satisis. 63 00:03:30,147 --> 00:03:32,907 Speaker 3: There's no no drama in the end because we were 64 00:03:33,107 --> 00:03:36,427 Speaker 3: really replacing it with expector. But I think the Wallabies 65 00:03:36,427 --> 00:03:39,027 Speaker 3: desperately needed that. Jorgensen then his last minute to try 66 00:03:39,107 --> 00:03:41,267 Speaker 3: he's got a bit of that too, so it helps. 67 00:03:41,347 --> 00:03:43,507 Speaker 3: And I think if you go back to the Island Test, 68 00:03:43,587 --> 00:03:46,707 Speaker 3: that's what they missed. They don't really have that much 69 00:03:46,907 --> 00:03:49,507 Speaker 3: X factor probably And when I say expected, I'm talking 70 00:03:49,547 --> 00:03:52,507 Speaker 3: about athleticism that can just change the game. They probably 71 00:03:52,547 --> 00:03:55,147 Speaker 3: haven't had that since Pino DRIs school. But one thing 72 00:03:55,187 --> 00:03:58,147 Speaker 3: I did want to touch on Piney was how good 73 00:03:58,227 --> 00:04:03,387 Speaker 3: can Royguard was off the bench. I thought he was exceptional, 74 00:04:03,587 --> 00:04:06,587 Speaker 3: but in the in the first half, Nick Berry did 75 00:04:06,867 --> 00:04:09,907 Speaker 3: poor quartiers at art in no favors. It was an 76 00:04:10,027 --> 00:04:13,507 Speaker 3: absolute shambles. And you know, when he didn't give an 77 00:04:13,547 --> 00:04:15,907 Speaker 3: Irish player yellow card, I thought, this is the last 78 00:04:15,987 --> 00:04:19,507 Speaker 3: straw of Berrys. And then now the Irish fans are 79 00:04:19,507 --> 00:04:23,147 Speaker 3: saying you're like another all black Berry, and then by 80 00:04:23,187 --> 00:04:24,507 Speaker 3: the end of the game some of them wanted to 81 00:04:24,587 --> 00:04:26,547 Speaker 3: poison Berry. I'm pretty sure. 82 00:04:28,027 --> 00:04:31,747 Speaker 2: What a goose berry is anyway, let's move on to 83 00:04:34,667 --> 00:04:36,867 Speaker 2: that's a little bit unkind but I just wanted to 84 00:04:36,987 --> 00:04:38,387 Speaker 2: join in really more than any. 85 00:04:40,027 --> 00:04:42,987 Speaker 3: It's a good one brainstorming with me. 86 00:04:43,107 --> 00:04:43,347 Speaker 2: Thank you. 87 00:04:44,467 --> 00:04:45,707 Speaker 3: Oh love it, love it. Hey. 88 00:04:45,787 --> 00:04:49,707 Speaker 2: Now, Chris Wood has been named the Premier League's Player 89 00:04:49,787 --> 00:04:53,627 Speaker 2: of the Month for October a Kiwi winning the Premier 90 00:04:53,747 --> 00:04:56,187 Speaker 2: League's PFA Player of the Month, which is voted for, 91 00:04:56,307 --> 00:04:59,627 Speaker 2: as I understand it by his fellow professionals. What an 92 00:04:59,747 --> 00:05:01,187 Speaker 2: akala for Chris Wood? 93 00:05:01,867 --> 00:05:06,027 Speaker 3: I know, four goals in three games, just the difference 94 00:05:06,107 --> 00:05:10,307 Speaker 3: make owning the stage. And I think I said to 95 00:05:10,347 --> 00:05:13,187 Speaker 3: you before that without Harry Kane there, they have to 96 00:05:13,227 --> 00:05:15,667 Speaker 3: talk about someone and it's now Chris Wood when it 97 00:05:15,747 --> 00:05:18,227 Speaker 3: comes to strikers because you've got Arling Harlan and the 98 00:05:18,347 --> 00:05:20,667 Speaker 3: next name on everybody's lips is Chris Wood, which is 99 00:05:21,547 --> 00:05:24,107 Speaker 3: wonderful to see. I don't think you know there's never 100 00:05:24,147 --> 00:05:26,027 Speaker 3: been a New Zealand player that's one Premier League Player 101 00:05:26,067 --> 00:05:29,147 Speaker 3: of the Month or Nottingham Forest player. You go back 102 00:05:29,227 --> 00:05:31,987 Speaker 3: and it's all the big clubs with a couple of outliers. 103 00:05:32,387 --> 00:05:35,187 Speaker 3: But what I think it does because what's happened here 104 00:05:35,427 --> 00:05:39,667 Speaker 3: is Forest are third on the table. So you're Liverpool 105 00:05:39,707 --> 00:05:43,827 Speaker 3: are first, and then man City who lost overnight a 106 00:05:43,987 --> 00:05:47,867 Speaker 3: second Man it's Forrest and Brighton, and I'm thinking, could 107 00:05:48,027 --> 00:05:50,987 Speaker 3: Forrest or Brighton do what listed it in twenty sixteen 108 00:05:51,547 --> 00:05:55,827 Speaker 3: and be you know, absolute anomally winning the Premier League? 109 00:05:56,067 --> 00:05:59,387 Speaker 3: And well maybe they could, but unfortunately I think Brighton 110 00:05:59,467 --> 00:06:00,427 Speaker 3: are better equipped to do it. 111 00:06:02,547 --> 00:06:04,707 Speaker 2: Yeah I feel like that too, and I don't know 112 00:06:04,787 --> 00:06:07,827 Speaker 2: whether either of them will. I would love to see it, 113 00:06:08,227 --> 00:06:09,987 Speaker 2: and even the Liverpool fan and me would love to 114 00:06:10,027 --> 00:06:12,227 Speaker 2: see it because Lester is one of the all time 115 00:06:12,427 --> 00:06:15,467 Speaker 2: great Premier League stories. But yeah, I just wonder, well, 116 00:06:15,507 --> 00:06:17,347 Speaker 2: who knows. We're only ten or eleven games and aren't 117 00:06:17,347 --> 00:06:19,627 Speaker 2: we so not even a better third of the way 118 00:06:19,627 --> 00:06:21,787 Speaker 2: through the season, so who knows? But I think what 119 00:06:21,867 --> 00:06:25,267 Speaker 2: it's done for Forrest though, is getting these points early 120 00:06:25,347 --> 00:06:27,467 Speaker 2: in the season means that you can you can afford 121 00:06:27,507 --> 00:06:29,307 Speaker 2: to go through a bit of a slump mid season 122 00:06:29,427 --> 00:06:31,147 Speaker 2: or early in the new year, and you're still going 123 00:06:31,187 --> 00:06:33,107 Speaker 2: to be okay. You're not going to find yourself in 124 00:06:33,147 --> 00:06:35,627 Speaker 2: a relegation battle because you've already you've already banked a 125 00:06:35,627 --> 00:06:36,947 Speaker 2: whole bunch of points at the start. 126 00:06:36,787 --> 00:06:39,627 Speaker 3: Of the season, exactly. And one thing like people out 127 00:06:39,667 --> 00:06:42,667 Speaker 3: there is I'm vaguely aware of Chris Wood. What why 128 00:06:42,747 --> 00:06:45,267 Speaker 3: is he so good? What's he like? Well, the thing 129 00:06:45,307 --> 00:06:48,587 Speaker 3: about Chris Wood is he doesn't get many chances and 130 00:06:48,747 --> 00:06:51,227 Speaker 3: he buries them. So this is the thing if you 131 00:06:51,307 --> 00:06:54,387 Speaker 3: are if you compare him to say Gabrielle Jesus, He's 132 00:06:54,387 --> 00:06:56,947 Speaker 3: played a similar amount of games to Chris Wood, and 133 00:06:57,027 --> 00:06:59,347 Speaker 3: they've both got a similar amount of Premier League goals. 134 00:06:59,427 --> 00:07:03,027 Speaker 3: Chris Wood is actually a head on seventy seven. He's Jesus' 135 00:07:03,547 --> 00:07:06,547 Speaker 3: seventy three, but bluddy Jesus player has played at the 136 00:07:06,587 --> 00:07:09,347 Speaker 3: Man City at Arsenal, meaning how many chances he gets 137 00:07:09,387 --> 00:07:12,387 Speaker 3: every single game. I mean out there, Chris Wood is 138 00:07:12,427 --> 00:07:15,627 Speaker 3: out there starving for chances and makes it count and 139 00:07:15,707 --> 00:07:18,427 Speaker 3: he's just clinical. And yeah he's a six yard box, 140 00:07:18,987 --> 00:07:23,747 Speaker 3: big heading center forward, but he can score them from anywhere. 141 00:07:25,227 --> 00:07:27,307 Speaker 2: Yep. They all count for one, hey, quickly on the 142 00:07:27,347 --> 00:07:29,987 Speaker 2: black Caps. We're in a T twenty series over in 143 00:07:30,067 --> 00:07:32,067 Speaker 2: Sri Lanka at the moment on New Zealand one thirty 144 00:07:32,067 --> 00:07:34,507 Speaker 2: five all out in the twentieth over in the first one, 145 00:07:34,627 --> 00:07:37,427 Speaker 2: Shri Lanka got there with an over despair, Zach Folks. 146 00:07:37,467 --> 00:07:41,267 Speaker 2: Though he scored twenty seven off sixteen balls batting it 147 00:07:41,467 --> 00:07:43,107 Speaker 2: a twenty seven not out. That is a bet of 148 00:07:43,227 --> 00:07:45,707 Speaker 2: sixteen balls banning at number nine and then comes out 149 00:07:45,747 --> 00:07:48,547 Speaker 2: and gets three for twenty. Who is Zach Folks? 150 00:07:49,547 --> 00:07:52,627 Speaker 3: Exactly? Good question? Who is Zach Folks? Well, he's from Canterbury. 151 00:07:53,467 --> 00:07:56,187 Speaker 3: I think he went to Sir Andrews. He's a tall 152 00:07:56,587 --> 00:07:59,387 Speaker 3: batting all rounder but obviously bowls pretty well as a 153 00:07:59,467 --> 00:08:00,147 Speaker 3: medium pacer. 154 00:08:01,347 --> 00:08:01,987 Speaker 2: This is the thing. 155 00:08:02,507 --> 00:08:04,827 Speaker 3: The pr machine does not work well enough for cricket 156 00:08:04,907 --> 00:08:06,747 Speaker 3: that we're going Who is Zach Folks? He made his 157 00:08:06,867 --> 00:08:10,467 Speaker 3: dable in April Pony and you think about any orbit 158 00:08:10,627 --> 00:08:13,187 Speaker 3: that even gets called into the squad. We know who 159 00:08:13,227 --> 00:08:15,987 Speaker 3: they are and what they had for breakfast with Replex responsors. 160 00:08:16,067 --> 00:08:19,067 Speaker 3: But this is the thing, Zach Folks. We've got to 161 00:08:19,107 --> 00:08:21,347 Speaker 3: get used to some of these names because I know 162 00:08:21,467 --> 00:08:25,027 Speaker 3: T twenty isn't that important, but we should be knowing, 163 00:08:25,987 --> 00:08:29,147 Speaker 3: you know, newcomers to our major national teams. I think. 164 00:08:30,507 --> 00:08:33,547 Speaker 2: Absolutely. And just to finish, speaking of cricket, the test 165 00:08:33,867 --> 00:08:37,107 Speaker 2: which is the Suzy Cricket documentary has been released or 166 00:08:37,147 --> 00:08:40,147 Speaker 2: the promo has anyway, they don't mind throwing the odd 167 00:08:40,187 --> 00:08:41,307 Speaker 2: little tenty, do they? 168 00:08:41,387 --> 00:08:46,907 Speaker 3: The Australians honestly watch this promos. It's hilarious. It's all 169 00:08:46,947 --> 00:08:49,987 Speaker 3: the bad is Steve Smith, David Warner. I think it's 170 00:08:50,187 --> 00:08:54,067 Speaker 3: Travis head All losing the plot. Warner versus the water 171 00:08:54,467 --> 00:08:58,667 Speaker 3: bottle is particularly funny. But they are losing the plot. Meanwhile, 172 00:08:58,707 --> 00:09:00,387 Speaker 3: the bowlers are just sort of chilling out, going on. 173 00:09:00,467 --> 00:09:03,867 Speaker 3: There they go again. And it reminded me that I've 174 00:09:03,867 --> 00:09:06,107 Speaker 3: been a journal for a while, Pony, and I've interviewed 175 00:09:06,587 --> 00:09:09,107 Speaker 3: so many Australian cricketers over the years. A lot of 176 00:09:09,187 --> 00:09:12,187 Speaker 3: bowlers never had a problem with him, always enjoyed them. 177 00:09:12,307 --> 00:09:16,067 Speaker 3: Craig McDermitt moves tough, Shane Warren, Grett Lee great guy, 178 00:09:16,427 --> 00:09:20,427 Speaker 3: Jason Gillispie even better. Richard Johnson, you know, always had 179 00:09:20,467 --> 00:09:24,827 Speaker 3: time for you. But batners all nuts, all of them. 180 00:09:25,307 --> 00:09:27,787 Speaker 3: And I mean so am I so I can spot one. 181 00:09:27,867 --> 00:09:31,827 Speaker 3: But I'm telling you the Australian batners as a breed 182 00:09:33,227 --> 00:09:34,747 Speaker 3: out out there, they're out the gates. 183 00:09:36,707 --> 00:09:39,347 Speaker 2: Well, it's proven yet again in this promo which I've 184 00:09:39,387 --> 00:09:43,067 Speaker 2: also seen, James and I can totally concur with what 185 00:09:43,267 --> 00:09:45,627 Speaker 2: you say. Good on your mate. Always good to chat, 186 00:09:45,707 --> 00:09:47,787 Speaker 2: Thanks for thanks for taking our callers. Always on a 187 00:09:47,827 --> 00:09:50,627 Speaker 2: Sunday afternoon James McCarney. Follow him on socials, He's on 188 00:09:50,707 --> 00:09:54,107 Speaker 2: Craigo's While Alternative Commentary Collective and lots of other places 189 00:09:54,507 --> 00:09:56,427 Speaker 2: as well. 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