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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Resident build Up podcast with Peter

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Speaker 1: Wolfcamp from News Talks at Bay.

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Speaker 2: The house is a hole, even when it's dark, even

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Speaker 2: when the grass is overglown in.

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Speaker 3: The yard, and even when the dog.

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Speaker 2: Is too old to bar, and when you're sitting at

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Speaker 2: the table trying not to stop scissor home, even when

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Speaker 2: we leave a band gone, even when you're there alone.

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Speaker 2: A house is a hole, even when those goes, even when.

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Speaker 4: You got around from the world you love, your most.

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Speaker 2: Screaming pains being in fund.

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Speaker 4: Locals Lisa, when they're gone.

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Speaker 2: Leaving the house, even when weilbra bene, even when you're

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Speaker 2: in there, loone.

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Speaker 3: Well, a very good morning, and welcome along to the

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Speaker 3: Resident Builder on Sunday. You're with Pete wolf Camp. That's me,

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Speaker 3: the Resident Builder, and well, to be blunt, we're here

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Speaker 3: to talk about your place. So if there's a squeaky door,

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Speaker 3: which there is at my place, there's a crack in

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Speaker 3: the window sill, which there is at my place, whether

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Speaker 3: there's maybe some spouting that I need to address, all

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Speaker 3: of these things. If it's happening at my place, chances

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Speaker 3: are it's happening at your place as well. And we

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Speaker 3: can talk about it, but more importantly, perhaps I can

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Speaker 3: give you a bit of guidance as to how to

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Speaker 3: tackle the project, the scope of the project, or maybe

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Speaker 3: even what happens if you don't do the project. So

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Speaker 3: the lines are open. The number to call is oh,

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Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. You can text as well,

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Speaker 3: so you're off the blocks very quickly. Text coming in

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Speaker 3: before the show starts, which is awesome. Nine to two

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Speaker 3: nine two is the text number, and if you'd like

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Speaker 3: to email me, it's Pete at newstalksb dot co dot

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Speaker 3: m Z. So we're fast approaching crikey at the end

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Speaker 3: of November already December, lou Well. Next Sunday will be

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Speaker 3: the first of December. Already, Christmas is not that far away,

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Speaker 3: and typically you know, in terms of what we do

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Speaker 3: to get some jobs done before Christmas, so that classic

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Speaker 3: Christmas rush. If you talk to trades people, they pack

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Speaker 3: up on this at different times in the year. You know,

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Speaker 3: if things are good, if things are buoyant, let's say,

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Speaker 3: people tradinges will often talk about the Christmas rush starting

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Speaker 3: and sort of September October. If it's not so buoyant,

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Speaker 3: then maybe the Christmas rush in November. And if it's

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Speaker 3: come at all, and there's not that pressure to get

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Speaker 3: things done. But if you've got a project that you'd

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Speaker 3: some tidying up of a deck or adding a deck,

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Speaker 3: might be a couple of projects inside the house, whatever

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Speaker 3: it is that's going on at your place. From a

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Speaker 3: building construction legislative point of view, we can talk all

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Speaker 3: things building and construction. Just briefly. I had the privilege

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Speaker 3: actually of an m seeing in a dinner last night.

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Speaker 3: The dinner was to celebrate forty years of clear Water Construction,

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Speaker 3: reasonably large firm in the Auckland area. They're active and

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Speaker 3: actually they're active around the country as well, and so

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Speaker 3: So it was a tremendous quite sincerely trimming this honor

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Speaker 3: and it was a tremendous night. So I really appreciated

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Speaker 3: very first apprentice of clear Water Construction from forty years

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Speaker 3: I sound a little bit tired today. There's a reason

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Speaker 3: for that. Not to worry. I'm looking forward to it.

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Speaker 3: I do every Sunday to share some insights, to share

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Speaker 3: we'll talk all things building in construction. We are out

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Speaker 3: was last week before the All Blacks played France. Today

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Speaker 3: a focus for you. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is

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Speaker 3: conversations here at Newstalk stb let me. I'll tell you

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Speaker 3: what Sue. I'll come to your text in a moment.

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Speaker 3: But let's get funny. This was something we would talking

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Speaker 3: about yesterday, you know. I mean, you go to a

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Speaker 3: building company's fortieth anniversary and typically you end up talking

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Speaker 3: A very good morning to you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, good morning, Peter, John.

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Speaker 6: John.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: The problem is a calling on behalf of my.

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Speaker 8: Kid's sister, who's had an art studio built thirty squares meters.

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Speaker 8: There was some bad weather during construction, I believe, and

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Speaker 8: mold has now appeared along the frame work on the inside.

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Speaker 8: It was just retracting a little bit.

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Speaker 9: It was shut up for two weeks for some reason,

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Speaker 9: and that came back and there are these mold streaks

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Speaker 9: They've now ripped the line out, taken the bats out.

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Speaker 9: Her concern is that she gets rid of it and

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Speaker 9: it doesn't grow again.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, Now, can I ask a sort of tangential

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Speaker 3: if it's you, we're very specific about calling it a

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Speaker 5: Correct?

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Speaker 8: Right?

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Speaker 3: Bubbling away behind the scenes of these sorts of conversations

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Speaker 3: So I suspect in this instance, and I don't want

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Speaker 3: How do you then all of the responsibility for quality

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Speaker 3: be you know, professional and diligent and build the building

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Speaker 3: Act and so on. I just wonder whether in this

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Speaker 3: cladding was direct fixed with no building paper. Okay, so

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Speaker 3: this building paper.

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Speaker 5: There, building paper and outside clearing of ply yep, then

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Speaker 3: Yeah okay, So look, the chances are it'll be a

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Speaker 3: combination of things. One is, you know, potentially during the

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Speaker 3: moisture content of the timber framing. Now, a piece of

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Speaker 3: then you fail your pre line inspection. You can't line.

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Speaker 3: Now if there's no inspector and the contractor might not

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Speaker 3: have their own moisture, they'll frame it up, they'll throw

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Speaker 3: and potentially that plywood, if they haven't stored that or

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Speaker 3: So if the building is already saturated, then yes, and

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Speaker 3: so there's an adequate ventilation, you will get mold growth.

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Speaker 3: And I wonder whether that's the case. So in terms

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Speaker 3: you know, plywood's expensive, and then you've you've put it

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Speaker 3: couldn't be patient around getting the frame out of right, Well,

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Speaker 3: it wasn't ripped off, Okay, so its screw fixed.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so we'll go back on again. So it's not

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Speaker 5: sitting in the building at the moment sort of drying out.

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Speaker 3: Look, the best thing to do would be to get

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Speaker 3: hundred bucks and they're carefully calibrated. Maybe I shouldn't say this,

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Speaker 3: but I bought one on trade b for twenty dollars

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Speaker 3: and when I've tagged along behind the building inspectors, my

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Speaker 3: readings have been within one percentage point of theirs. Right,

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Speaker 3: So if they're getting a twenty three percent reading and

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Speaker 3: I use my twenty dollars trade me special, I might

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Speaker 3: get almost the same results. So ideally you would say

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Speaker 3: to the contractor, I want to install a dehumidifier. I

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Speaker 3: want to dry out the fabric.

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Speaker 10: Of the.

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Speaker 3: Timber, and then let's do the lining only when it

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Speaker 3: reaches at a very minimum twenty degrees. The insulation is

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Speaker 3: that does it feel saturated?

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Speaker 3: Yeah sure, Okay, Well, let's assume that the insulation has

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Speaker 3: so that could be reinstalled. The plywood could be put

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Speaker 3: back on. I would test the ply as well. Again,

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Speaker 3: if the plywood is saturated, then yeah, that's not going

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Speaker 3: to be any good. And then going forward, there's an

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Speaker 3: issue for something like a studio, how do you build

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Speaker 3: it in such a way that you can maintain some

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Speaker 3: Let's say so in some cases you might want to

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Speaker 3: ventilation system, as in having cross ventilation windows on either

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Speaker 3: that just runs constantly to allow for airflow. They they

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Speaker 3: pose a few challenges those sorts of buildings that have,

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Speaker 3: Not nice of you to call John Hope. That helps

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Speaker 3: a quick look at this text from Sue morning, Pete.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate that you've covered this, but please can you clarify

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Speaker 3: Maybe we've talked about about the Property Act sometime before Christmas.

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Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

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Speaker 4: I'm great?

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Speaker 4: Thanks? Yeah, longtime listener, first time caller. Sure, Yeah. What

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Speaker 3: Inside the shower, outside the shower.

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Speaker 4: Inside the shower, So it's what a proof the structure.

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Speaker 4: I put my foot through the bottom of it. I've

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Speaker 13: The what do you call it?

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Speaker 4: The shower? Waterproof? Can I fix it myself? I've all

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Speaker 4: do you inform the landlord about this? And he was

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Speaker 3: To be fair, I've I mean, I know sometimes shower

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Speaker 4: What happened was, you know, because I work night shift,

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Speaker 4: I decided, because I'm having a few drinks, I'm going

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Speaker 3: It happens. Right when when you let the landlord know again,

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Speaker 3: I've done plenty of work looking after rental properties, right,

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Speaker 3: You know, there's there's quite a bit of work involved

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Speaker 4: He was more concerned because I landed on my side

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it still doesn't I mean, I get that,

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Speaker 3: I'd be in touch with the landlord and go, okay,

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Speaker 3: let's talk about when your tradespeople are coming to fix it.

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Speaker 3: That's the approach that I would probably take. Jason. I

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Speaker 3: hope that you're not too badly injured after that as well.

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Speaker 3: All the best with that oh, eight hundred eighty ten

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Speaker 14: Good morning to you, Good morning Pete very well.

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Speaker 7: Oh it's good to hear.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's a.

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Speaker 7: Sunday and if we're not well.

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Speaker 3: On Sunday, absolutely, how can I help.

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Speaker 7: I've got a good mate. He's a pharmacist and he's

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Speaker 4: It's in good neck.

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Speaker 7: It leads a bit of towel see. But he got

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Speaker 7: If you had to build it today would be a

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Speaker 3: Yeah. No, Surprisingly he's got no money, you know, because

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Speaker 7: He paying twenty two per blah blah blah. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 7: I know, I know. Dream Yeah, and yourself employed he's

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Speaker 7: a pharmacist selling mw zeualman made sunscreen. And of course

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Speaker 13: So yeah, so he's.

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Speaker 7: He's he's a pharmacist. He's got no practical experience. I've

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Speaker 7: So what I was thinking, and this is what I

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Speaker 7: wanted to bounce off you or in recent is ree

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Speaker 7: coming in today?

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Speaker 15: No?

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Speaker 3: No, you mean now, Raisin, guys, Jay and Bryce, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: no not today.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, because of the game you go the all blacks.

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Speaker 7: So what I was thinking, Pete was diluting the primer

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Speaker 7: on and sending it and then put two coats of

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00:27:07,575 --> 00:27:09,215
Speaker 7: any fell on top of that.

437
00:27:11,535 --> 00:27:13,855
Speaker 3: I think your methodology is correct in the sense that

438
00:27:14,175 --> 00:27:16,175
Speaker 3: you know, once you've cleaned it, you need to apply

439
00:27:16,455 --> 00:27:18,655
Speaker 3: a primer which is going to be your key coat

440
00:27:18,735 --> 00:27:22,455
Speaker 3: that's going to bond your surface coats to it. But look,

441
00:27:22,535 --> 00:27:25,735
Speaker 3: I think you would be better served, given that this

442
00:27:25,895 --> 00:27:28,495
Speaker 3: is actually really important for the performance of the boat

443
00:27:28,535 --> 00:27:31,455
Speaker 3: and those sorts of things, is to go, you know,

444
00:27:31,575 --> 00:27:34,655
Speaker 3: go along to maybe just get on the phone to Razine,

445
00:27:34,735 --> 00:27:38,095
Speaker 3: for example, to their technical team. I'm thinking we did

446
00:27:38,135 --> 00:27:41,295
Speaker 3: a little giveaway for Razine Construction a little while ago

447
00:27:41,335 --> 00:27:44,695
Speaker 3: because Razine Paints themselves are involved in the coating systems

448
00:27:44,735 --> 00:27:48,575
Speaker 3: for the America's cupboats. Right, so I would go off

449
00:27:48,615 --> 00:27:52,855
Speaker 3: and get some expert advice for your mate from Razine.

450
00:27:53,815 --> 00:27:53,975
Speaker 4: You know.

451
00:27:54,615 --> 00:27:58,815
Speaker 3: The hard thing is these paints and these systems are well,

452
00:27:58,815 --> 00:28:02,175
Speaker 3: they're quite expensive, right, And if he was to go

453
00:28:02,855 --> 00:28:04,855
Speaker 3: you know, oh, look, I'm just going to use some

454
00:28:04,935 --> 00:28:07,695
Speaker 3: regular old primer and a bit of you know, paving

455
00:28:07,815 --> 00:28:09,695
Speaker 3: paint or something like that, he's not going to get

456
00:28:09,735 --> 00:28:12,015
Speaker 3: a great result. So it's it's going to be very

457
00:28:12,095 --> 00:28:16,055
Speaker 3: specific paints applied in a very specific way in order

458
00:28:16,175 --> 00:28:19,975
Speaker 3: to get you know, the performance out of the system

459
00:28:20,175 --> 00:28:25,415
Speaker 3: that you need. So and I mean, look, I know

460
00:28:25,495 --> 00:28:28,015
Speaker 3: it's got nothing to do with with me or or

461
00:28:28,255 --> 00:28:29,935
Speaker 3: even with you. In a sense. It's his money and

462
00:28:30,015 --> 00:28:32,775
Speaker 3: he can do with it what he wants. But borrowing

463
00:28:32,855 --> 00:28:36,015
Speaker 3: money on a boat and then at incredibly high rates,

464
00:28:36,055 --> 00:28:39,735
Speaker 3: and it's just got disaster and all over it. There

465
00:28:39,775 --> 00:28:41,495
Speaker 3: was a guy around the corner had a boat sitting

466
00:28:41,535 --> 00:28:43,695
Speaker 3: on his front lawn for about two years before you

467
00:28:43,775 --> 00:28:45,455
Speaker 3: could see he just kind of gave up with it

468
00:28:45,535 --> 00:28:47,615
Speaker 3: and shipped it off, you know, pardon the pun.

469
00:28:49,415 --> 00:28:49,735
Speaker 4: I had.

470
00:28:52,815 --> 00:28:54,855
Speaker 7: And it was on the rocks for six months, and

471
00:28:54,935 --> 00:28:58,055
Speaker 7: then the council finally got adam patient with me because

472
00:28:58,095 --> 00:29:00,135
Speaker 7: I had no money, I was sick ass and I'm

473
00:29:00,175 --> 00:29:04,375
Speaker 7: the superent. So they chopped it up old hundred years old,

474
00:29:04,495 --> 00:29:09,055
Speaker 7: carry right and dump all the wood.

475
00:29:09,335 --> 00:29:09,695
Speaker 4: Dump it.

476
00:29:10,015 --> 00:29:13,375
Speaker 7: Yeah, it could have would have made beautiful recycled furniture.

477
00:29:15,095 --> 00:29:17,735
Speaker 3: Plenty of recycled well, yeah, there's a reasonable amount of

478
00:29:17,775 --> 00:29:20,815
Speaker 3: recycled would out there. Look, it's you know, I wish

479
00:29:20,895 --> 00:29:22,655
Speaker 3: you make well and good on you for helping out.

480
00:29:22,695 --> 00:29:24,615
Speaker 3: But I think I would I would go off and

481
00:29:24,695 --> 00:29:28,015
Speaker 3: get very specific technical advice around the coating systems that

482
00:29:28,095 --> 00:29:28,775
Speaker 3: you need to apply.

483
00:29:30,055 --> 00:29:32,695
Speaker 7: Yeah, but no idea will to do that. But you're

484
00:29:32,735 --> 00:29:34,975
Speaker 7: looking at two grand plus for it boat, just for

485
00:29:35,095 --> 00:29:36,055
Speaker 7: paint little later.

486
00:29:36,455 --> 00:29:39,255
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, but that's the cost of buying a boat.

487
00:29:39,735 --> 00:29:40,815
Speaker 3: That's why I have a boat.

488
00:29:44,175 --> 00:29:45,015
Speaker 7: You got plenty.

489
00:29:46,855 --> 00:29:50,135
Speaker 3: Suh been out for ages. Hey, good luck with it all, eh,

490
00:29:50,495 --> 00:29:53,055
Speaker 3: all the best you take care other than are you

491
00:29:53,135 --> 00:29:56,935
Speaker 3: and your stalk se bek that's a bit of a

492
00:29:56,975 --> 00:29:59,615
Speaker 3: writer passage. And you buy something, Oh, look, I plenty

493
00:29:59,695 --> 00:30:01,615
Speaker 3: had plenty of old motorbikes and all the rest of

494
00:30:01,695 --> 00:30:04,175
Speaker 3: it over the year, so I can't judge, oh, eight

495
00:30:04,335 --> 00:30:07,455
Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty, but the cool text comes through,

496
00:30:07,775 --> 00:30:09,535
Speaker 3: be cheaper to put the boat back on the market

497
00:30:09,575 --> 00:30:13,295
Speaker 3: and take the hit. You're probably not wrong. A couple

498
00:30:13,335 --> 00:30:18,415
Speaker 3: of questions about body corporates and one request here are

499
00:30:18,455 --> 00:30:20,935
Speaker 3: you able to get a spray expert on to discuss

500
00:30:21,015 --> 00:30:23,695
Speaker 3: different makes and applications. I presume you're talking about the

501
00:30:23,775 --> 00:30:27,895
Speaker 3: discussion we had around you spraying to treat mold, for example.

502
00:30:27,975 --> 00:30:30,215
Speaker 3: So that was our first caller talking about the studio

503
00:30:30,615 --> 00:30:34,215
Speaker 3: which was brand new, recently built and then had mold

504
00:30:34,375 --> 00:30:37,175
Speaker 3: appearing on the surface. I think it's to do with

505
00:30:37,295 --> 00:30:40,895
Speaker 3: the timber framing being saturated because nobody checked the timber,

506
00:30:41,055 --> 00:30:44,255
Speaker 3: the moisture contients of the timber. So once you've got

507
00:30:44,295 --> 00:30:46,375
Speaker 3: it dry, can you treat some of that. I mean,

508
00:30:46,415 --> 00:30:49,135
Speaker 3: there's lots of proprietary, you know, on the shelf products

509
00:30:49,535 --> 00:30:51,615
Speaker 3: in terms of exit mold and a whole bunch of others.

510
00:30:52,455 --> 00:30:56,335
Speaker 3: There's bleaches. There's actually sort of more eco friendly options

511
00:30:56,375 --> 00:30:58,735
Speaker 3: in terms of vinegar and baking soda and those sorts

512
00:30:58,775 --> 00:31:01,415
Speaker 3: of things that will also take care of mold. So

513
00:31:02,215 --> 00:31:05,335
Speaker 3: find it the appropriate treatment, treat it, let it dry out.

514
00:31:05,455 --> 00:31:07,575
Speaker 3: Carry on from there would be the answer. We'll come

515
00:31:07,615 --> 00:31:09,455
Speaker 3: back and talk Body Corporate in a moment for this

516
00:31:09,655 --> 00:31:11,655
Speaker 3: text message, but we have time for your calls right

517
00:31:11,695 --> 00:31:14,695
Speaker 3: now as well. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the

518
00:31:14,815 --> 00:31:17,215
Speaker 3: number to call. I was just listening to the interview

519
00:31:17,255 --> 00:31:21,855
Speaker 3: that Kerry did with Assistant Commissioner Paul Basham. And in

520
00:31:21,935 --> 00:31:24,255
Speaker 3: a small, small world, I went to school with Paul.

521
00:31:24,855 --> 00:31:28,935
Speaker 3: I can still remember actually chatting over the woodwork table

522
00:31:29,575 --> 00:31:30,655
Speaker 3: form two woodwork.

523
00:31:31,175 --> 00:31:31,615
Speaker 12: There you go.

524
00:31:33,495 --> 00:31:36,215
Speaker 3: Back in the day. What was that nineteen seventy nine

525
00:31:38,055 --> 00:31:40,055
Speaker 3: And as a kid, actually he knew what he knew

526
00:31:40,055 --> 00:31:42,575
Speaker 3: absolutely what he wanted to do. He's a lovely guy.

527
00:31:42,655 --> 00:31:45,775
Speaker 3: We caught up for a drink last year sometime. He

528
00:31:45,855 --> 00:31:48,655
Speaker 3: happened to be in Auckland, so yeah, nice to hear

529
00:31:48,735 --> 00:31:53,295
Speaker 3: his voice on the radio ridioh fourteen minutes fifteen Yeah,

530
00:31:53,495 --> 00:31:56,415
Speaker 3: fifteen minutes away from seven O. Eight hundred eighty ten

531
00:31:56,535 --> 00:31:58,815
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call. I've got a very

532
00:31:59,135 --> 00:32:06,255
Speaker 3: long and involved text about leaky buildings and neighboring property

533
00:32:06,575 --> 00:32:09,015
Speaker 3: and so on. I'll try and get to that, but

534
00:32:09,295 --> 00:32:11,335
Speaker 3: I think my short answer is going to be this

535
00:32:11,535 --> 00:32:13,815
Speaker 3: is going to become a legal matter that you're going

536
00:32:13,895 --> 00:32:15,175
Speaker 3: to have to deal with. But i'll come back to

537
00:32:15,295 --> 00:32:17,535
Speaker 3: that in just a moment. Rose A very good morning

538
00:32:17,615 --> 00:32:17,735
Speaker 3: to you.

539
00:32:18,895 --> 00:32:22,975
Speaker 16: Oh yes, thank you for taking my call. I have

540
00:32:23,615 --> 00:32:28,415
Speaker 16: purchased a batch by the sea, and a lot of

541
00:32:28,535 --> 00:32:33,015
Speaker 16: the nails are coming through on not good renovations that

542
00:32:33,095 --> 00:32:35,215
Speaker 16: have been done in the past, and they're coming through

543
00:32:35,375 --> 00:32:38,655
Speaker 16: all rusty, and a few of them. I got a

544
00:32:38,775 --> 00:32:42,535
Speaker 16: stainless steel brush and brushed the top of them and

545
00:32:42,775 --> 00:32:45,415
Speaker 16: got the rust off. But it's coming through the paint,

546
00:32:46,055 --> 00:32:48,935
Speaker 16: and I wondered if there's any easy way to fix it,

547
00:32:49,135 --> 00:32:51,095
Speaker 16: or if they can be facts. There's quite a few

548
00:32:51,575 --> 00:32:55,255
Speaker 16: around the outside of the building nails that have rusted.

549
00:32:56,055 --> 00:32:59,055
Speaker 3: And you're saying that this is from a recent renovation.

550
00:33:00,415 --> 00:33:04,295
Speaker 16: I don't know how recent. I have just purchased the property,

551
00:33:04,375 --> 00:33:07,695
Speaker 16: but I think over time, haven't you stained the steel

552
00:33:08,255 --> 00:33:09,895
Speaker 16: nails for their renovations.

553
00:33:13,695 --> 00:33:18,695
Speaker 3: What's the type of cladding? Oh, I don't know what

554
00:33:18,935 --> 00:33:21,815
Speaker 3: type with the boards or a version of weather.

555
00:33:21,655 --> 00:33:26,015
Speaker 16: Boards, a version of where the boards and some words.

556
00:33:27,055 --> 00:33:31,415
Speaker 5: Right, Okay, and then we're the boards.

557
00:33:31,735 --> 00:33:34,575
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the surface, the outside surface of the building

558
00:33:34,655 --> 00:33:37,095
Speaker 3: is painted. It's all painted. It's not stained or anything

559
00:33:37,175 --> 00:33:37,335
Speaker 3: like that.

560
00:33:38,375 --> 00:33:41,535
Speaker 16: It's all painted. And the raft is coming through the

561
00:33:41,655 --> 00:33:43,575
Speaker 16: paint and dribble them down.

562
00:33:43,895 --> 00:33:48,095
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean, you know, one concern might be that

563
00:33:48,175 --> 00:33:52,815
Speaker 3: they've used brads when they're fixing some of those weather

564
00:33:52,895 --> 00:33:56,175
Speaker 3: boards on or some of that cladding. And if you

565
00:33:56,375 --> 00:33:58,895
Speaker 3: just well even if you use galvanized brads that don't

566
00:33:58,975 --> 00:34:02,575
Speaker 3: last particularly well in a in a sea environment with

567
00:34:02,735 --> 00:34:08,575
Speaker 3: sea salt. To be fair, I've seen believe it or not,

568
00:34:08,735 --> 00:34:12,975
Speaker 3: rusting out of stainless steel brads. I don't know how

569
00:34:13,055 --> 00:34:16,855
Speaker 3: that happens, but I've seen it. I think what you've

570
00:34:16,855 --> 00:34:19,695
Speaker 3: got to kind of do is go along punch, so

571
00:34:19,775 --> 00:34:24,455
Speaker 3: I presume all of the nails were fastened and then

572
00:34:24,615 --> 00:34:29,255
Speaker 3: punched and then filled and then painted over that stright, okay,

573
00:34:30,735 --> 00:34:34,655
Speaker 3: coming through literally it's a really time consuming process where

574
00:34:34,695 --> 00:34:38,015
Speaker 3: you go through, use a nail punch to drive the

575
00:34:38,095 --> 00:34:40,935
Speaker 3: nail in a little bit further, then use a very

576
00:34:41,095 --> 00:34:44,495
Speaker 3: small brush with some rust kill paint on it, so

577
00:34:44,935 --> 00:34:50,575
Speaker 3: a specific rust kill paint, and then dab that or

578
00:34:50,655 --> 00:34:54,215
Speaker 3: dab that into the aperture right into the where you've

579
00:34:54,255 --> 00:34:57,495
Speaker 3: punched the nail. Essentially try and fill that almost with

580
00:34:57,655 --> 00:35:01,135
Speaker 3: paint and then apply some filler, send that back and

581
00:35:01,255 --> 00:35:05,815
Speaker 3: then repaint the exterior. And there's no guarantee that after

582
00:35:05,895 --> 00:35:08,215
Speaker 3: a pair of of time it won't come back, because

583
00:35:08,255 --> 00:35:14,935
Speaker 3: it most likely will. But that's the most basic treatment

584
00:35:15,055 --> 00:35:15,255
Speaker 3: for it.

585
00:35:16,175 --> 00:35:19,295
Speaker 16: Well, it hasn't happened to all of them, and some

586
00:35:19,575 --> 00:35:24,895
Speaker 16: of some of the nails are not ones that I

587
00:35:24,975 --> 00:35:27,735
Speaker 16: can punch in the big the big.

588
00:35:27,695 --> 00:35:32,135
Speaker 3: Knobs on the end, okay, yep, yeah, And so with.

589
00:35:32,255 --> 00:35:37,095
Speaker 16: Those I sanded. I did too, and I sanded all

590
00:35:37,175 --> 00:35:40,855
Speaker 16: those right down and got it off. But that was very,

591
00:35:41,055 --> 00:35:44,055
Speaker 16: very time consuming, and I can't push those in because

592
00:35:44,095 --> 00:35:45,015
Speaker 16: I've got the big knobs.

593
00:35:45,295 --> 00:35:46,935
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay. So if it's a flat head or a

594
00:35:47,095 --> 00:35:51,255
Speaker 3: rosehead nail, it's designed to sit proud on the surface, right,

595
00:35:51,615 --> 00:35:55,135
Speaker 3: So in that instance there a wire brush is probably

596
00:35:55,135 --> 00:35:57,415
Speaker 3: a bit easier to use than a bit of sandpaper

597
00:35:57,775 --> 00:36:01,855
Speaker 3: wirebrush to expose the surface and remove as much rust

598
00:36:01,895 --> 00:36:05,415
Speaker 3: as possible, apply some rust kill paint to the to

599
00:36:05,535 --> 00:36:09,695
Speaker 3: the surface, and then paint over again. Might be with

600
00:36:10,335 --> 00:36:12,375
Speaker 3: if you're talking with someone at the paint shop about

601
00:36:12,735 --> 00:36:17,335
Speaker 3: applying a rust converter which will neutralize the rust, and

602
00:36:17,615 --> 00:36:23,015
Speaker 3: then applying an anti corrosive primer or paint over the

603
00:36:23,095 --> 00:36:26,095
Speaker 3: top of that, and then applying your top coat over that.

604
00:36:28,135 --> 00:36:31,335
Speaker 3: Whether or not the rust converter in conjunction with a

605
00:36:31,895 --> 00:36:35,135
Speaker 3: primer makes any big difference in terms of how quickly

606
00:36:35,215 --> 00:36:38,535
Speaker 3: the rust will come back, but I'd say just and

607
00:36:38,695 --> 00:36:41,295
Speaker 3: be very generous when you're doing you know, knock the

608
00:36:41,375 --> 00:36:44,415
Speaker 3: top back, get rid of the rust, and then apply

609
00:36:44,855 --> 00:36:47,375
Speaker 3: lots of paint. The thicker the paint coating that you

610
00:36:47,455 --> 00:36:49,735
Speaker 3: can put on there, the better it's going to be.

611
00:36:50,015 --> 00:36:51,615
Speaker 3: And then obviously you've got to be a bit careful

612
00:36:51,655 --> 00:36:54,015
Speaker 3: when you apply more paint over the top that when

613
00:36:54,055 --> 00:36:56,375
Speaker 3: you're doing your sanding in between coats, you don't stand

614
00:36:56,455 --> 00:37:00,695
Speaker 3: off what you've just applied. So look, it's a terribly

615
00:37:00,935 --> 00:37:03,855
Speaker 3: labor intensive process. That's the reason we've got radios is

616
00:37:03,935 --> 00:37:05,695
Speaker 3: that you know, while you're doing this work, you can

617
00:37:05,735 --> 00:37:09,495
Speaker 3: be listening to the radio and distract yourself from the

618
00:37:09,895 --> 00:37:10,535
Speaker 3: task ahead.

619
00:37:11,295 --> 00:37:13,655
Speaker 16: Yes, I did too, and it did take a long time.

620
00:37:13,775 --> 00:37:18,215
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Ok, that's pretty much the way to go. Yeah,

621
00:37:18,815 --> 00:37:21,055
Speaker 3: you know, the other possibility maybe with some of those

622
00:37:22,015 --> 00:37:24,495
Speaker 3: flathead or rose head nails. Is you might be able

623
00:37:24,535 --> 00:37:28,135
Speaker 3: to get them out with the pliers and so on,

624
00:37:28,535 --> 00:37:31,015
Speaker 3: get underneath the head and pull them out and replace them.

625
00:37:31,415 --> 00:37:34,735
Speaker 3: But sometimes in those cases you end up damaging the boards,

626
00:37:34,775 --> 00:37:36,895
Speaker 3: and then you've got an even bigger repair job. So

627
00:37:37,335 --> 00:37:40,215
Speaker 3: I wonder whether just treating it and trying to stay on.

628
00:37:40,255 --> 00:37:40,655
Speaker 14: Top of it.

629
00:37:41,055 --> 00:37:44,135
Speaker 3: Yeah, good luck with that. Thank you very all right,

630
00:37:44,295 --> 00:37:45,935
Speaker 3: you take care of all the very best to you.

631
00:37:46,095 --> 00:37:49,815
Speaker 3: Bye by then, Hey Craig, good morning to you. Game

632
00:37:50,255 --> 00:37:51,095
Speaker 3: bad thanks yourself.

633
00:37:53,135 --> 00:37:55,495
Speaker 12: I could complain, but then you're told off the complaining.

634
00:37:55,935 --> 00:37:58,095
Speaker 3: That's right, And what's the classic like no one I

635
00:37:58,335 --> 00:38:01,695
Speaker 3: would complain, but no one listens. Yeah right, How can

636
00:38:01,735 --> 00:38:02,135
Speaker 3: I help.

637
00:38:02,695 --> 00:38:06,855
Speaker 12: You lose friends? I'll go to friend of mine who's

638
00:38:07,135 --> 00:38:10,735
Speaker 12: in an apartment building four apartments in Hamilton. It's four, sorry,

639
00:38:10,775 --> 00:38:12,775
Speaker 12: five double story apartments side by side and like a

640
00:38:12,815 --> 00:38:17,135
Speaker 12: little complex with security gates and all that, and behind

641
00:38:17,415 --> 00:38:20,575
Speaker 12: his number, he's around the middle. Behind him his unit,

642
00:38:20,615 --> 00:38:22,735
Speaker 12: he's got like a little out, like a little closet

643
00:38:22,775 --> 00:38:25,015
Speaker 12: on the outside of the building and it has all

644
00:38:25,095 --> 00:38:27,895
Speaker 12: the alarms in that for the entire site, for all

645
00:38:27,935 --> 00:38:30,415
Speaker 12: the other apartments in there, but the door's never locked

646
00:38:30,455 --> 00:38:31,975
Speaker 12: and it hasn't been lyned. You gets a lot of

647
00:38:32,055 --> 00:38:35,215
Speaker 12: conversation there, so he call doesn't have a look at

648
00:38:35,215 --> 00:38:37,975
Speaker 12: that because they're problems with his alarm. I pointed out

649
00:38:38,015 --> 00:38:39,375
Speaker 12: to him that you need to talk bad about But

650
00:38:39,455 --> 00:38:41,815
Speaker 12: then that twur issues we had too, is where I

651
00:38:41,975 --> 00:38:44,495
Speaker 12: turned the power of his breaker in the garage because

652
00:38:44,495 --> 00:38:47,175
Speaker 12: he had a couple of mstis he kept flicking all

653
00:38:47,175 --> 00:38:48,735
Speaker 12: the time, so I turned the power off and replaced

654
00:38:48,775 --> 00:38:51,855
Speaker 12: them and found out that when we did that, it

655
00:38:51,975 --> 00:38:53,775
Speaker 12: dropped the power to the main security game in the

656
00:38:53,815 --> 00:38:55,495
Speaker 12: complex along with all the alarms, and I had to

657
00:38:55,535 --> 00:38:57,895
Speaker 12: inform them that I'm sorry, but your apartments seems to

658
00:38:57,935 --> 00:39:01,735
Speaker 12: be powering the security gate and ever runs alarms and

659
00:39:01,735 --> 00:39:06,135
Speaker 12: all the other houses. Yeah, there's no board, a, no body,

660
00:39:06,495 --> 00:39:09,055
Speaker 12: paris just all in one. But before we found the fuse,

661
00:39:09,335 --> 00:39:13,455
Speaker 12: I mean found that out, I brought our company. Here's

662
00:39:13,455 --> 00:39:15,575
Speaker 12: a ground ped entarning radar of little trolley things I

663
00:39:15,615 --> 00:39:17,295
Speaker 12: brought into try and find where the duck we're out

664
00:39:17,335 --> 00:39:19,815
Speaker 12: to the gator, so maybe try and narrow down from

665
00:39:19,895 --> 00:39:21,055
Speaker 12: and try and make it a little bit easier for

666
00:39:21,415 --> 00:39:23,855
Speaker 12: having to go back to the people you water from.

667
00:39:24,815 --> 00:39:27,255
Speaker 12: And we found that from the foot path to about

668
00:39:27,295 --> 00:39:29,535
Speaker 12: two meters and from the footpath in the driveway there's

669
00:39:29,575 --> 00:39:34,215
Speaker 12: no reinforcing, right, Yeah, because I was I was following

670
00:39:34,255 --> 00:39:35,935
Speaker 12: the pipe down the drive and you could see the

671
00:39:35,975 --> 00:39:39,815
Speaker 12: reinforcing on the screen like water pipe all that and

672
00:39:39,855 --> 00:39:43,215
Speaker 12: then like hang on with the reinforcing go. So I

673
00:39:43,295 --> 00:39:45,735
Speaker 12: was wondering what has comeback for that is because I

674
00:39:45,735 --> 00:39:47,455
Speaker 12: would have thought you would have had to have reinforce

675
00:39:47,495 --> 00:39:48,895
Speaker 12: it bully to the end of the driveway, but it's

676
00:39:48,935 --> 00:39:51,095
Speaker 12: like about two meters from the end, it's just nothing,

677
00:39:51,655 --> 00:39:54,655
Speaker 12: all the pipes and everything. But yeah, it's like they

678
00:39:54,695 --> 00:39:56,295
Speaker 12: put it in there and gone inspect and pulled it

679
00:39:56,335 --> 00:39:56,735
Speaker 12: out again.

680
00:39:58,215 --> 00:39:58,415
Speaker 4: Yeah.

681
00:39:58,935 --> 00:40:02,815
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's like yeah they yeah, I look.

682
00:40:02,935 --> 00:40:06,095
Speaker 3: That sort of thing happens. Or you know, if they

683
00:40:06,415 --> 00:40:10,215
Speaker 3: doing a poor and the trucks drive down the driveway

684
00:40:10,655 --> 00:40:14,135
Speaker 3: to pour from the furthest end, you know, sometimes you

685
00:40:14,255 --> 00:40:16,215
Speaker 3: take the mesh out and maybe in that instance they

686
00:40:16,255 --> 00:40:18,495
Speaker 3: didn't put it back in. Look, I mean, you know,

687
00:40:18,735 --> 00:40:21,695
Speaker 3: trying to get some redress now would just be a

688
00:40:21,775 --> 00:40:24,855
Speaker 3: torturous project. I'd put that in the too hard basket.

689
00:40:24,935 --> 00:40:27,095
Speaker 3: The other thing, to be fair though, is in some

690
00:40:27,255 --> 00:40:31,855
Speaker 3: instances it applies more to crossings, So council often don't

691
00:40:31,935 --> 00:40:35,255
Speaker 3: want you to put mesh into a crossing when you

692
00:40:35,375 --> 00:40:37,335
Speaker 3: pour in concrete there. They just want it to be

693
00:40:37,535 --> 00:40:40,215
Speaker 3: thicker so that if they even need to cut it up,

694
00:40:40,255 --> 00:40:42,055
Speaker 3: it's a lot easier to do if there's no mesh

695
00:40:42,095 --> 00:40:44,975
Speaker 3: in it. So maybe there was a requirement not to

696
00:40:45,095 --> 00:40:47,855
Speaker 3: have mesh there. I take it from the way that

697
00:40:47,935 --> 00:40:50,855
Speaker 3: you're talking about your mate's place that you've got some

698
00:40:51,015 --> 00:40:54,575
Speaker 3: electrical experience and are able to offer up an advice.

699
00:40:55,615 --> 00:40:57,575
Speaker 12: Yeah. Yeah, that brings up to another whole thing. And

700
00:40:57,695 --> 00:41:01,215
Speaker 12: you were talking about that granifrat before, and yeah, the

701
00:41:01,295 --> 00:41:04,015
Speaker 12: studio and all that. We see that industry too, Like

702
00:41:04,375 --> 00:41:08,255
Speaker 12: I'm electrically qualified, but I've also data caban and security. Yes,

703
00:41:08,415 --> 00:41:11,535
Speaker 12: and we find all the time that we got all qualifications,

704
00:41:11,575 --> 00:41:14,455
Speaker 12: but Sparky's can do data caban and security without any

705
00:41:14,535 --> 00:41:17,575
Speaker 12: your real qualifications. And we get caught in quite a

706
00:41:17,615 --> 00:41:20,095
Speaker 12: lot of times because Sparker do a whole on data

707
00:41:20,135 --> 00:41:21,935
Speaker 12: caving for our building. We'll walk in there and go

708
00:41:22,735 --> 00:41:25,575
Speaker 12: really and it's just been done poorly, not understanding, but

709
00:41:25,735 --> 00:41:27,615
Speaker 12: unfortunately there's no comeback. So it's kind of like in

710
00:41:27,735 --> 00:41:31,455
Speaker 12: some ways with LOSNS builders and people building these new grenefits.

711
00:41:31,495 --> 00:41:33,615
Speaker 12: I suppose really you get all the people who are qualified,

712
00:41:34,255 --> 00:41:36,255
Speaker 12: and then you get people that are already qualified doing

713
00:41:36,295 --> 00:41:37,935
Speaker 12: and then it sort of starts giving everything that's a

714
00:41:37,975 --> 00:41:44,215
Speaker 12: bad name, which is quite sadly, but yeah, it's happens

715
00:41:44,255 --> 00:41:44,815
Speaker 12: here all the time.

716
00:41:45,015 --> 00:41:46,935
Speaker 3: I'm not going to disagree with you on that, you know,

717
00:41:47,015 --> 00:41:50,455
Speaker 3: and I think this tremendous opportunity. I was talking to

718
00:41:50,615 --> 00:41:53,175
Speaker 3: young guys thinking about doing electrical apprenticeship and I said,

719
00:41:53,495 --> 00:41:57,215
Speaker 3: you know, nowadays there is also it's much broader in

720
00:41:57,295 --> 00:41:59,255
Speaker 3: the sense that you've got all this opportunity to do

721
00:41:59,815 --> 00:42:02,215
Speaker 3: you know, data and security and those sorts of things.

722
00:42:02,255 --> 00:42:05,655
Speaker 3: So if you continue to upskill, you know, this tremendous

723
00:42:05,655 --> 00:42:08,175
Speaker 3: amount of work in that area going forward.

724
00:42:08,255 --> 00:42:11,135
Speaker 12: So yeah, it's never a dull day. And then working

725
00:42:11,175 --> 00:42:12,855
Speaker 12: side quite a lot of its raining. Plus I mean

726
00:42:13,815 --> 00:42:16,495
Speaker 12: I started out electrical when into data security and then

727
00:42:16,535 --> 00:42:20,175
Speaker 12: moved into process controlled and all automation on the factories,

728
00:42:20,175 --> 00:42:22,095
Speaker 12: and that's that's fun. And you've got to sit down

729
00:42:22,135 --> 00:42:23,895
Speaker 12: there and work out how to program of controls to

730
00:42:23,975 --> 00:42:26,575
Speaker 12: do what you want to do. So it's yeah, a

731
00:42:26,615 --> 00:42:27,975
Speaker 12: lot of hit scretches sometimes to you.

732
00:42:28,055 --> 00:42:28,815
Speaker 3: But that's great.

733
00:42:28,935 --> 00:42:29,615
Speaker 12: Yeah. Yeah.

734
00:42:30,295 --> 00:42:33,535
Speaker 3: Just in regards to the electrical you're earlier. We've only

735
00:42:33,575 --> 00:42:35,775
Speaker 3: got a minute or so, but your earlier comment was

736
00:42:35,855 --> 00:42:38,655
Speaker 3: that in that particular unit, all of the power, the

737
00:42:38,775 --> 00:42:41,255
Speaker 3: costs for the power is shared. Is that correct.

738
00:42:42,415 --> 00:42:44,855
Speaker 12: Well, we turned this break, sorry, I turned this break.

739
00:42:44,895 --> 00:42:46,615
Speaker 12: We're off, and then the security gates stopped working. People

740
00:42:46,615 --> 00:42:48,775
Speaker 12: got stuck outside, so we had to manually open the

741
00:42:48,815 --> 00:42:50,255
Speaker 12: gate to get them. And then I was doing some

742
00:42:50,535 --> 00:42:53,335
Speaker 12: tracing around and found that he's got a PowerPoint in

743
00:42:53,375 --> 00:42:55,095
Speaker 12: the middle of his a lounge for the TV on

744
00:42:55,175 --> 00:42:57,575
Speaker 12: one wall, and I pulled the PowerPoint off and there's

745
00:42:57,575 --> 00:42:59,575
Speaker 12: but a two point five go straight through the wall.

746
00:42:59,615 --> 00:43:01,135
Speaker 12: And the other side of the wall was that cupboard

747
00:43:01,175 --> 00:43:02,735
Speaker 12: on the outside of the building and it's got another

748
00:43:02,735 --> 00:43:06,895
Speaker 12: PowerPoint in there which everything runs off. And so there's

749
00:43:06,895 --> 00:43:08,735
Speaker 12: some tracing around and found out that one of us,

750
00:43:08,775 --> 00:43:10,895
Speaker 12: I think the fourth breaker on his board as she

751
00:43:11,055 --> 00:43:14,535
Speaker 12: runs the box out the little like lean to out

752
00:43:14,575 --> 00:43:15,095
Speaker 12: the side there.

753
00:43:15,615 --> 00:43:18,575
Speaker 3: So he's and he pays his own power.

754
00:43:19,495 --> 00:43:19,695
Speaker 13: Yeah.

755
00:43:19,735 --> 00:43:21,855
Speaker 12: Yeah, So it's all because it's all depending the owned.

756
00:43:22,455 --> 00:43:26,135
Speaker 12: They all own their apartment, so for everyone else's alarm,

757
00:43:26,215 --> 00:43:28,895
Speaker 12: everyone else's routers, and everyone else ends the security.

758
00:43:29,335 --> 00:43:30,815
Speaker 3: Hey, I'm going to have to run for the news,

759
00:43:30,855 --> 00:43:33,415
Speaker 3: but the fascinating situation to be and we're back straight

760
00:43:33,455 --> 00:43:36,895
Speaker 3: after New Sporting Weather, your news talks. He'd be welcome

761
00:43:36,935 --> 00:43:39,215
Speaker 3: back to the show. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten

762
00:43:39,415 --> 00:43:41,215
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call if you've got a

763
00:43:41,375 --> 00:43:44,495
Speaker 3: building question that could be sort of a practical question.

764
00:43:45,735 --> 00:43:49,015
Speaker 3: I had to question myself yesterday when I suddenly discovered

765
00:43:49,055 --> 00:43:55,895
Speaker 3: that I had managed to adhere to my face some

766
00:43:56,335 --> 00:44:00,415
Speaker 3: gorilla grip adhesive. Now, I use gorilla grip adhesive because

767
00:44:00,615 --> 00:44:03,575
Speaker 3: I know it sticks like the proverbial to a blanket,

768
00:44:04,375 --> 00:44:09,135
Speaker 3: which is fine. When I was trying to glue bendy

769
00:44:09,295 --> 00:44:15,015
Speaker 3: ply to a elliptical frame that I had constructed, and

770
00:44:15,135 --> 00:44:18,975
Speaker 3: it worked incredibly well, the old gorilla grip. In that instance,

771
00:44:19,095 --> 00:44:22,695
Speaker 3: I used the one hour cure one. I did one

772
00:44:22,775 --> 00:44:26,255
Speaker 3: on Friday night, one half of this ellipse elliptical shape

773
00:44:26,375 --> 00:44:28,975
Speaker 3: on Friday night. I did the other on Saturday. And

774
00:44:29,015 --> 00:44:32,615
Speaker 3: then when I was delivering the mystery object, I'll tell

775
00:44:32,615 --> 00:44:35,215
Speaker 3: you about that a little bit later on, I discovered

776
00:44:35,255 --> 00:44:37,055
Speaker 3: I sort of touched on my face and thought, oh,

777
00:44:37,055 --> 00:44:39,535
Speaker 3: I wonder what that is. It's like this reasonably solid

778
00:44:39,575 --> 00:44:42,375
Speaker 3: old lump. Anyway, it was the gorilla grip that's quite

779
00:44:42,415 --> 00:44:47,135
Speaker 3: hard to get off your skin. I have to say. Anyway,

780
00:44:47,255 --> 00:44:49,655
Speaker 3: work to treat. So we can talk about building products,

781
00:44:49,735 --> 00:44:52,215
Speaker 3: what sticks and what doesn't. Eight hundred and eighty ten

782
00:44:52,295 --> 00:44:54,615
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call. We can talk about

783
00:44:55,055 --> 00:44:58,495
Speaker 3: a little bit about legislation. I'm really intrigued by our

784
00:44:58,535 --> 00:45:00,655
Speaker 3: first call, if you missed it, just after six o'clock.

785
00:45:01,095 --> 00:45:04,455
Speaker 3: John was talking about calling essentially on behalf of his

786
00:45:04,535 --> 00:45:08,215
Speaker 3: consistent which is lovely going. Look a thirty square meter

787
00:45:08,455 --> 00:45:13,455
Speaker 3: studio that's been recently conduct constructed and it has mold

788
00:45:13,775 --> 00:45:17,335
Speaker 3: on the inside whires. It got mold, and so we

789
00:45:17,455 --> 00:45:21,655
Speaker 3: went through the possible scenarios and some remediation. But it

790
00:45:22,055 --> 00:45:27,855
Speaker 3: does raise that issue, and I'm increasingly conflicted about it

791
00:45:28,015 --> 00:45:31,375
Speaker 3: in the sense that the very strong push from the

792
00:45:31,415 --> 00:45:35,135
Speaker 3: government at the moment to go, let's, you know, make

793
00:45:35,215 --> 00:45:38,415
Speaker 3: things easier to build. Let's remove regulation. And along with

794
00:45:38,615 --> 00:45:42,895
Speaker 3: removing regulation, we end up removing the input, let's say,

795
00:45:42,975 --> 00:45:46,495
Speaker 3: from council and from council inspectors, and we put the

796
00:45:46,695 --> 00:45:50,935
Speaker 3: emphasis on the quality control onto the contractors doing the work,

797
00:45:51,415 --> 00:45:53,695
Speaker 3: and you know, let's have a little bit of confidence

798
00:45:53,735 --> 00:45:57,015
Speaker 3: and the ability of our licensed building practitioners in order

799
00:45:57,175 --> 00:46:01,575
Speaker 3: to build to the building code and to appropriate standards

800
00:46:01,615 --> 00:46:04,375
Speaker 3: without having someone looking over your shoulder. It's essentially what

801
00:46:04,455 --> 00:46:08,775
Speaker 3: they're saying. And so that phone call to me is

802
00:46:08,935 --> 00:46:12,535
Speaker 3: kind of that slight alarm bell that goes, yeah, but

803
00:46:12,695 --> 00:46:16,615
Speaker 3: can we actually be really confident? And I'm almost reluctant

804
00:46:16,655 --> 00:46:20,135
Speaker 3: to say it. Can we be confident in the quality

805
00:46:20,295 --> 00:46:26,175
Speaker 3: control of contractors LBPS builders doing this work without necessarily

806
00:46:26,215 --> 00:46:29,415
Speaker 3: having a building consent and without having a building inspector

807
00:46:29,575 --> 00:46:33,935
Speaker 3: check their work to actually deliver quality buildings. Here's a

808
00:46:33,975 --> 00:46:38,095
Speaker 3: classic example of no. And I kind of am despondent

809
00:46:38,255 --> 00:46:43,175
Speaker 3: that this has become a topic. You know, ideally LBPS

810
00:46:43,375 --> 00:46:47,975
Speaker 3: should be competent to undertake work like this that doesn't

811
00:46:48,015 --> 00:46:51,255
Speaker 3: require a building consent but still deliver quality. But here's

812
00:46:51,295 --> 00:46:53,935
Speaker 3: a classic example where that hasn't happened. You may here

813
00:46:53,975 --> 00:46:56,255
Speaker 3: a comic, oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty the number

814
00:46:56,255 --> 00:47:01,255
Speaker 3: to call just very quickly this, you know, in all seriousness,

815
00:47:01,295 --> 00:47:03,935
Speaker 3: it's a fairly extensive text and it's got a lot

816
00:47:04,015 --> 00:47:09,575
Speaker 3: of issues in it around body corporates and adjoining properties

817
00:47:09,775 --> 00:47:15,855
Speaker 3: and liability and so on. So five apartments cracking leaking. Look,

818
00:47:16,455 --> 00:47:19,135
Speaker 3: ultimately this is going to be a legal issue. So

819
00:47:20,655 --> 00:47:24,415
Speaker 3: the challenges to find a lawyer that has experienced in

820
00:47:24,495 --> 00:47:28,375
Speaker 3: this area who can offer up some decent advice around

821
00:47:28,895 --> 00:47:34,335
Speaker 3: leaking remediations, who might be liable and so on again.

822
00:47:34,375 --> 00:47:37,215
Speaker 3: At the event that I was at last night, that

823
00:47:37,375 --> 00:47:41,895
Speaker 3: was a subject of some considerable conversation as well around liability.

824
00:47:42,015 --> 00:47:45,295
Speaker 3: And you know, I took to one gentleman who has

825
00:47:45,655 --> 00:47:49,895
Speaker 3: brought into an apartment where he's looking just to get

826
00:47:49,975 --> 00:47:51,655
Speaker 3: some money for it, and he's just going to ditch it.

827
00:47:52,255 --> 00:47:56,735
Speaker 3: It's so poorly constructed, with so many problems that there

828
00:47:56,775 --> 00:47:59,615
Speaker 3: seems to be no end in sight. He's in a

829
00:47:59,655 --> 00:48:03,015
Speaker 3: position where he could walk away and not ruin him,

830
00:48:03,695 --> 00:48:06,575
Speaker 3: to be blunt. But of course for other occupy to

831
00:48:06,655 --> 00:48:09,255
Speaker 3: this apartment block, if they were to walk away, they

832
00:48:09,575 --> 00:48:13,175
Speaker 3: would face financial ruin. And that's the end result of

833
00:48:13,255 --> 00:48:16,055
Speaker 3: Paul building practice. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

834
00:48:16,135 --> 00:48:19,735
Speaker 3: let's talk all things building and construction here at news

835
00:48:19,815 --> 00:48:22,335
Speaker 3: took se b Just a reminder too, the all blacks

836
00:48:22,375 --> 00:48:25,775
Speaker 3: are playing Italy, last match of the Northern Tour that

837
00:48:26,375 --> 00:48:29,215
Speaker 3: starts just after nine o'clock. So we are going to

838
00:48:29,295 --> 00:48:32,255
Speaker 3: hand over to our live commentary team at around eight

839
00:48:32,375 --> 00:48:35,615
Speaker 3: forty five this morning. Redclimb Passed will join us a

840
00:48:35,735 --> 00:48:39,135
Speaker 3: little bit earlier, so at around eight fifteen thereabouts we'll

841
00:48:39,175 --> 00:48:41,455
Speaker 3: have Rudon. We'll talk all things gardening from eight to

842
00:48:41,455 --> 00:48:44,375
Speaker 3: fifteen through to eight forty five, and then ladies and gentlemen,

843
00:48:44,455 --> 00:48:47,055
Speaker 3: the All Blacks will be live from Italy at around

844
00:48:47,535 --> 00:48:51,255
Speaker 3: just after nine o'clock. Jeremy, A very good morning to you.

845
00:48:52,655 --> 00:48:54,375
Speaker 12: Good morning, Peter, morning Jeremy.

846
00:48:55,735 --> 00:48:59,895
Speaker 13: Yeah, I just got a question. So if the water

847
00:49:00,135 --> 00:49:03,695
Speaker 13: leaks and then it casts the wood to rotten, and

848
00:49:03,855 --> 00:49:08,975
Speaker 13: then if I managed to stop the leaking, whether rotten

849
00:49:09,055 --> 00:49:10,335
Speaker 13: will still continue to rot?

850
00:49:12,375 --> 00:49:15,335
Speaker 3: Oh, that is a good question. Yeah, there is a

851
00:49:15,415 --> 00:49:19,615
Speaker 3: potential for once decay sets in and so on, it

852
00:49:19,975 --> 00:49:23,375
Speaker 3: could remain active. So typically, you know, and I'm now

853
00:49:23,495 --> 00:49:26,695
Speaker 3: going to what is common practice in terms of weather

854
00:49:26,735 --> 00:49:29,655
Speaker 3: tightness remediation. Right, So, if you've had a leaky building

855
00:49:30,295 --> 00:49:34,615
Speaker 3: where water has got into the timber framing, the typical

856
00:49:34,735 --> 00:49:38,495
Speaker 3: remediation is to identify any timber that shows sign of

857
00:49:38,615 --> 00:49:44,335
Speaker 3: decay and remove that timber completely. Then sometimes the remediation

858
00:49:44,535 --> 00:49:48,655
Speaker 3: people will say, look, you need to take another meter

859
00:49:48,855 --> 00:49:51,495
Speaker 3: of timber out. So let's say there's a bottom plate

860
00:49:51,575 --> 00:49:54,455
Speaker 3: that's rotten in one corner, and there's a meter and

861
00:49:54,455 --> 00:49:56,335
Speaker 3: a half that's rotten, but they want you to go

862
00:49:56,695 --> 00:49:59,415
Speaker 3: two and a half meters from the point of rot

863
00:49:59,895 --> 00:50:02,455
Speaker 3: to remove all of that. And then also we're talking

864
00:50:02,495 --> 00:50:06,095
Speaker 3: about treating any other timber in the vicinity with a

865
00:50:06,295 --> 00:50:11,175
Speaker 3: timber preservative to ensure that that any decay doesn't continue

866
00:50:11,295 --> 00:50:15,255
Speaker 3: there as well. But cutting out the rot is really

867
00:50:15,415 --> 00:50:19,495
Speaker 3: really important, and cutting it out well beyond that, you know,

868
00:50:19,655 --> 00:50:22,055
Speaker 3: you go, oh, well it stops here, but you're always

869
00:50:22,095 --> 00:50:23,495
Speaker 3: better off cutting a bit more out.

870
00:50:25,295 --> 00:50:28,575
Speaker 13: Yeah, but the problem is the wood. I mean to

871
00:50:28,655 --> 00:50:30,895
Speaker 13: cut out the wood because the wood is between the

872
00:50:31,335 --> 00:50:35,175
Speaker 13: my unit and the unit below, and the neighbor is

873
00:50:35,295 --> 00:50:39,935
Speaker 13: not not very cooperative to want to do anything about it.

874
00:50:40,135 --> 00:50:43,215
Speaker 3: So the timber that you're talking about that is rotten

875
00:50:43,415 --> 00:50:48,175
Speaker 3: is in fact the floor joist between the two units. Yeah, correct, yes, right,

876
00:50:49,935 --> 00:50:54,855
Speaker 3: Is any of this been like, is the repair something

877
00:50:54,935 --> 00:50:57,535
Speaker 3: that you're undertaking because you know that there's a problem.

878
00:50:57,975 --> 00:51:03,055
Speaker 3: Is there any building consultant, building serve council involved in

879
00:51:03,135 --> 00:51:07,815
Speaker 3: this because you know, repair to a mid floor, joist

880
00:51:07,975 --> 00:51:11,175
Speaker 3: between inter tendency, because there'll be fire rating issues and

881
00:51:11,215 --> 00:51:14,295
Speaker 3: all those sorts of things. Really that work should have

882
00:51:14,615 --> 00:51:18,215
Speaker 3: a building consent and then there should be some supervision

883
00:51:18,295 --> 00:51:21,415
Speaker 3: of the work, particularly around the fire rating.

884
00:51:23,415 --> 00:51:24,015
Speaker 13: Fire reading.

885
00:51:24,535 --> 00:51:24,735
Speaker 4: Yeah.

886
00:51:24,815 --> 00:51:27,815
Speaker 3: Well, if you've got a unit below you, right and

887
00:51:28,255 --> 00:51:32,455
Speaker 3: you're above, there should be fire rating between the two units,

888
00:51:32,575 --> 00:51:36,895
Speaker 3: right to protect from the spread of fire. And what

889
00:51:37,055 --> 00:51:39,295
Speaker 3: you don't want to do is do some work which

890
00:51:39,375 --> 00:51:43,855
Speaker 3: then impacts on the fire rating of that which you

891
00:51:43,935 --> 00:51:46,855
Speaker 3: know in terms of if there was a fire, it

892
00:51:47,015 --> 00:51:50,215
Speaker 3: could cause fatal results. Right, So fire rating and fire

893
00:51:50,255 --> 00:51:57,935
Speaker 3: protection passive fire protection is really really important. So I

894
00:51:58,095 --> 00:52:01,415
Speaker 3: think that it's sounding like the scale and the scope

895
00:52:01,455 --> 00:52:06,095
Speaker 3: of this job is one where I think you should

896
00:52:06,135 --> 00:52:10,975
Speaker 3: have professional advice and and have a scope of works

897
00:52:11,495 --> 00:52:15,735
Speaker 3: created by someone who's experienced in this area, and then

898
00:52:15,975 --> 00:52:19,015
Speaker 3: ideally they would supervise this work as well. And in

899
00:52:19,095 --> 00:52:21,495
Speaker 3: fact I suspect you'll need a building consent for it.

900
00:52:24,135 --> 00:52:28,215
Speaker 13: Yeah. Yeah, I did have some building LBP to come

901
00:52:28,295 --> 00:52:30,255
Speaker 13: and have a log and then come up with the

902
00:52:31,575 --> 00:52:39,295
Speaker 13: train and mad it and mitigated. But yeah, yeah, but yeah,

903
00:52:39,415 --> 00:52:42,015
Speaker 13: but it's it's like, of course we do not have

904
00:52:42,215 --> 00:52:45,895
Speaker 13: the detailed design of the building. It's very old building,

905
00:52:46,415 --> 00:52:49,175
Speaker 13: and and we do know how how far it would

906
00:52:49,215 --> 00:52:51,655
Speaker 13: go and and what's what's involved.

907
00:52:52,495 --> 00:52:53,495
Speaker 5: Yeah, and.

908
00:52:54,975 --> 00:52:57,495
Speaker 3: You know, from a practical point of view, so you know,

909
00:52:57,615 --> 00:52:59,935
Speaker 3: I can imagine if you lift the floor out and

910
00:53:00,095 --> 00:53:04,095
Speaker 3: some of those floor joists are actually rotten. It's it's

911
00:53:04,895 --> 00:53:08,335
Speaker 3: it's going to be very challenging, if not almost impossible

912
00:53:08,855 --> 00:53:16,375
Speaker 3: to replace those correctly without impacting on the neighbor below you. So,

913
00:53:17,135 --> 00:53:20,215
Speaker 3: and I can understand the frustration from the neighbor below.

914
00:53:20,495 --> 00:53:23,135
Speaker 3: You know, I didn't cause the leak. It's not my leak.

915
00:53:23,495 --> 00:53:25,375
Speaker 3: But suddenly you're saying to me that I've got to

916
00:53:25,415 --> 00:53:27,535
Speaker 3: move out of the apartment while you pull the ceiling

917
00:53:27,615 --> 00:53:32,015
Speaker 3: down for example, you know, And I guess it's it's

918
00:53:32,135 --> 00:53:36,495
Speaker 3: when these problems emerge that you can understand why there

919
00:53:36,575 --> 00:53:41,575
Speaker 3: are such strict controls around internal moisture, making sure that

920
00:53:41,655 --> 00:53:47,935
Speaker 3: we get good waterproofing systems and potentially overflows to ensure

921
00:53:48,135 --> 00:53:51,175
Speaker 3: that in these vertical buildings where you know, there are

922
00:53:51,695 --> 00:53:54,975
Speaker 3: owners stacked on top of each other, that a leak

923
00:53:55,095 --> 00:53:58,255
Speaker 3: from one property doesn't affect those properties below it.

924
00:53:59,815 --> 00:54:06,815
Speaker 13: So actually batter cause of beause I didn't I didn't

925
00:54:06,935 --> 00:54:09,695
Speaker 13: have I mean I didn't constantly when I buy the

926
00:54:09,735 --> 00:54:13,695
Speaker 13: property is already like that, so I only discover it

927
00:54:13,815 --> 00:54:17,735
Speaker 13: and then try to try to do something about it then.

928
00:54:18,615 --> 00:54:22,495
Speaker 13: But but in terms of course, who should better?

929
00:54:23,215 --> 00:54:32,055
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, oh sure, yeah, I guess. Can

930
00:54:32,135 --> 00:54:34,575
Speaker 3: I ask, did you get a building inspection, a pre

931
00:54:34,735 --> 00:54:37,535
Speaker 3: purchase inspection before you bought the apartment?

932
00:54:38,815 --> 00:54:39,015
Speaker 11: Yeah?

933
00:54:39,055 --> 00:54:39,415
Speaker 12: I did.

934
00:54:40,215 --> 00:54:44,375
Speaker 13: Yeah, so the inspector did mention that the the deck

935
00:54:45,215 --> 00:54:48,335
Speaker 13: my because I'm on the upper level. Yeah, so the

936
00:54:48,775 --> 00:54:51,015
Speaker 13: what what the waterproofing wasn't done?

937
00:54:51,055 --> 00:54:53,215
Speaker 4: Probably right? So yeah.

938
00:54:53,415 --> 00:54:59,055
Speaker 13: So so so I get there some building uh people

939
00:54:59,175 --> 00:55:01,615
Speaker 13: to to give me a quote or how much to

940
00:55:01,735 --> 00:55:06,455
Speaker 13: do to do the repair. So so after that, uh,

941
00:55:07,415 --> 00:55:11,615
Speaker 13: I negotiate with the seller and then get a lower

942
00:55:11,615 --> 00:55:12,855
Speaker 13: advice to buy the property.

943
00:55:13,015 --> 00:55:13,215
Speaker 3: Yeah.

944
00:55:13,535 --> 00:55:17,615
Speaker 13: So once I own a property, I tried to get

945
00:55:17,655 --> 00:55:22,135
Speaker 13: the builder too to try and remediate the thing. But

946
00:55:22,295 --> 00:55:27,055
Speaker 13: the builder just keep on delaying until until almost about

947
00:55:27,095 --> 00:55:29,855
Speaker 13: one year, and then I get another one to come

948
00:55:29,935 --> 00:55:32,495
Speaker 13: and see, and then he made he and he opened

949
00:55:32,575 --> 00:55:38,535
Speaker 13: up part of the the below, uh, the deck below

950
00:55:38,975 --> 00:55:42,175
Speaker 13: the cabin mm hmmm, below the deck, and then he

951
00:55:42,255 --> 00:55:45,455
Speaker 13: found that the wood was what was wrotter.

952
00:55:45,215 --> 00:55:45,735
Speaker 4: And the joys.

953
00:55:46,895 --> 00:55:53,175
Speaker 3: Yeah, so after that, yeah, see if if if for example, well,

954
00:55:53,455 --> 00:55:56,495
Speaker 3: I mean, if you didn't get a pre purchase inspection, uh,

955
00:55:57,415 --> 00:55:59,735
Speaker 3: you know, you could say I didn't know about it

956
00:56:00,055 --> 00:56:03,455
Speaker 3: to your insurer and and potentially ask your insurer to

957
00:56:03,535 --> 00:56:06,575
Speaker 3: cover it. But in this instance, you did know that

958
00:56:06,735 --> 00:56:09,855
Speaker 3: there was some defective or there was some leaking which

959
00:56:10,015 --> 00:56:16,255
Speaker 3: was then causing decay, and then took a risk to go,

960
00:56:16,455 --> 00:56:19,375
Speaker 3: I'm going to purchase the property because I've been able

961
00:56:19,415 --> 00:56:22,535
Speaker 3: to discount the property in order to cover the cost

962
00:56:22,575 --> 00:56:24,695
Speaker 3: of the expenses. But now the cost of the expenses

963
00:56:24,775 --> 00:56:27,255
Speaker 3: is probably far greater than the discount that you got

964
00:56:27,335 --> 00:56:30,215
Speaker 3: from it. So I don't know that you're going to

965
00:56:30,255 --> 00:56:34,095
Speaker 3: be able to get any support from anyone outside because

966
00:56:35,015 --> 00:56:39,455
Speaker 3: essentially you were reasonably well informed that there was going

967
00:56:39,535 --> 00:56:41,735
Speaker 3: to be a problem. Now there is a problem, it's

968
00:56:42,055 --> 00:56:44,335
Speaker 3: you're going to have to fix it. And I can't

969
00:56:44,375 --> 00:56:48,015
Speaker 3: see that you could go to your insurer now and go, oh, look,

970
00:56:48,055 --> 00:56:52,135
Speaker 3: can I make a claim for this. It's going to

971
00:56:52,255 --> 00:56:56,575
Speaker 3: be My feeling is it's going to be your responsibility. Again,

972
00:56:56,975 --> 00:57:00,255
Speaker 3: I hasten to add, you know, you should probably get

973
00:57:00,335 --> 00:57:05,895
Speaker 3: some proper legal advice on this, but unfortunately I can't

974
00:57:05,975 --> 00:57:17,335
Speaker 3: see this ending particularly well mm hmmm, yeah, unfortunately. I'd

975
00:57:17,375 --> 00:57:20,215
Speaker 3: be intrigued to know where you end up with this, Jeremy.

976
00:57:21,015 --> 00:57:25,455
Speaker 13: But you know, so it is in no case, what

977
00:57:25,615 --> 00:57:28,735
Speaker 13: would you do? I mean, how you would you conceed?

978
00:57:31,775 --> 00:57:37,335
Speaker 3: Is there a body corporate? No, nobody cop nobody corp right?

979
00:57:43,575 --> 00:57:46,215
Speaker 3: I mean the I was going to say the hard thing,

980
00:57:46,295 --> 00:57:48,815
Speaker 3: it's not the hard thing. That the only right thing

981
00:57:48,895 --> 00:57:53,575
Speaker 3: to do is to have a professional, like a registered

982
00:57:53,575 --> 00:57:59,255
Speaker 3: building surveyor or a building consultant, come, describe the scope

983
00:57:59,295 --> 00:58:02,735
Speaker 3: of the problem, identify you know why there is a problem,

984
00:58:03,255 --> 00:58:07,255
Speaker 3: provide you with a specification for the mediation of that,

985
00:58:08,015 --> 00:58:11,575
Speaker 3: have a licensed building practitioner undertake the work, have that

986
00:58:11,775 --> 00:58:16,535
Speaker 3: work supervised by a professional. I think it's probably going

987
00:58:16,615 --> 00:58:19,815
Speaker 3: to require a building consent. The concern with that is

988
00:58:19,895 --> 00:58:21,575
Speaker 3: that as soon as you go to counsel for a

989
00:58:21,615 --> 00:58:24,295
Speaker 3: building consent, the job is going to get much bigger

990
00:58:24,815 --> 00:58:29,935
Speaker 3: and much more expensive, and all of that is going

991
00:58:30,015 --> 00:58:32,455
Speaker 3: to be your is going to be at your cost,

992
00:58:32,615 --> 00:58:36,295
Speaker 3: is my feeling. So you know, it's got to be

993
00:58:36,375 --> 00:58:39,455
Speaker 3: done right because it impacts on the lives of other people. Right,

994
00:58:40,255 --> 00:58:42,695
Speaker 3: If you don't fix the leak and it impacts on

995
00:58:42,815 --> 00:58:45,535
Speaker 3: your neighbor, that's not fair on your neighbor.

996
00:58:49,175 --> 00:58:52,735
Speaker 13: Fix a leak easily, but the rottenwood is the thing

997
00:58:52,815 --> 00:58:54,815
Speaker 13: that is difficult to fix.

998
00:58:55,015 --> 00:58:58,015
Speaker 3: Well, that almost becomes a moral issue, then, doesn't it

999
00:58:58,135 --> 00:59:00,495
Speaker 3: that you could ignore it? But that doesn't feel like

1000
00:59:00,615 --> 00:59:03,575
Speaker 3: that's the right thing to do, in which case you

1001
00:59:03,655 --> 00:59:06,255
Speaker 3: then have to repair that. But again it will need

1002
00:59:06,495 --> 00:59:11,615
Speaker 3: specific design. You know, I wouldn't consider it to be

1003
00:59:11,855 --> 00:59:16,855
Speaker 3: a like for like repair, for example. It's the way

1004
00:59:16,895 --> 00:59:20,655
Speaker 3: in which it's got to be fixed and remediated. And

1005
00:59:21,015 --> 00:59:23,135
Speaker 3: to ensure that it's up to the building code is

1006
00:59:23,255 --> 00:59:24,295
Speaker 3: really really important.

1007
00:59:28,175 --> 00:59:30,855
Speaker 13: Yeah, but we do not have the design of that.

1008
00:59:32,695 --> 00:59:35,655
Speaker 3: No, well, there will be even if you don't have it.

1009
00:59:35,735 --> 00:59:37,135
Speaker 3: If the building, how old is the building?

1010
00:59:38,855 --> 00:59:40,055
Speaker 13: Sixty nineteen sixties?

1011
00:59:40,335 --> 00:59:42,575
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, so there probably won't be plans, in

1012
00:59:42,655 --> 00:59:45,735
Speaker 3: which case you then have to go to a designer,

1013
00:59:46,855 --> 00:59:49,575
Speaker 3: and it'll probably be a combination of an architectural designer,

1014
00:59:49,575 --> 00:59:54,055
Speaker 3: an architect or an engineer working collaboratively to come up

1015
00:59:54,135 --> 00:59:57,175
Speaker 3: with a scope of works. Here's the design, this is

1016
00:59:57,255 --> 00:59:59,135
Speaker 3: what's going to work. This is the type of timber

1017
00:59:59,215 --> 01:00:01,295
Speaker 3: you need to use, this is the type of fixings,

1018
01:00:01,335 --> 01:00:03,975
Speaker 3: this is how we brace it, et cetera, et cetera.

1019
01:00:04,375 --> 01:00:09,015
Speaker 3: And then again I think that because you're essentially repairing

1020
01:00:09,335 --> 01:00:12,615
Speaker 3: the structural fabric of the building, it's going to require

1021
01:00:12,655 --> 01:00:16,615
Speaker 3: a building consent. In my opinion, once you've got the

1022
01:00:16,655 --> 01:00:19,295
Speaker 3: building consent, you undertake the work as per the consent

1023
01:00:20,175 --> 01:00:23,855
Speaker 3: and have the work signed off. But again, all of

1024
01:00:23,935 --> 01:00:27,895
Speaker 3: that cost, I think is going to be yours unfortunately.

1025
01:00:31,055 --> 01:00:33,055
Speaker 13: I mean, the neighbor doesn't need to share the cost.

1026
01:00:34,015 --> 01:00:37,255
Speaker 3: It's not really their problem. And again, because if there's

1027
01:00:37,295 --> 01:00:40,575
Speaker 3: no body corporate, then you know, you own the building

1028
01:00:40,695 --> 01:00:43,175
Speaker 3: and your or you own your part of the building

1029
01:00:43,215 --> 01:00:50,975
Speaker 3: and you're responsible for it. I would have thought, you know,

1030
01:00:51,095 --> 01:00:54,295
Speaker 3: sometimes in these situations where we really hope that there's

1031
01:00:54,535 --> 01:00:57,495
Speaker 3: an easy way, or we really hope that there's not

1032
01:00:57,815 --> 01:01:00,295
Speaker 3: that much work involved, I think this is a classic

1033
01:01:00,415 --> 01:01:02,775
Speaker 3: case where it is a big problem and it's a

1034
01:01:02,895 --> 01:01:07,455
Speaker 3: big solution, and big solutions unfortunately end up being expensive ones.

1035
01:01:07,535 --> 01:01:09,775
Speaker 3: And I can't sugar coat that for you.

1036
01:01:10,935 --> 01:01:14,415
Speaker 13: How much would it I mean estimate costs for that.

1037
01:01:16,135 --> 01:01:19,335
Speaker 3: Without seeing it and without having a scope of works

1038
01:01:19,375 --> 01:01:22,455
Speaker 3: and so on, I'd be loath to. You know, look,

1039
01:01:22,495 --> 01:01:24,575
Speaker 3: if if you can't you know from what you're describing,

1040
01:01:24,615 --> 01:01:26,575
Speaker 3: if it's an issue, let's go with a balcony and

1041
01:01:26,655 --> 01:01:28,855
Speaker 3: a cantilever and those sorts of things. If you came

1042
01:01:28,895 --> 01:01:30,975
Speaker 3: to me and said I've spent you know, one hundred

1043
01:01:31,015 --> 01:01:33,735
Speaker 3: thousand dollars, I wouldn't be surprised. But again, you know,

1044
01:01:33,935 --> 01:01:35,975
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm picking a figure out of the year

1045
01:01:36,095 --> 01:01:39,615
Speaker 3: in some ways, So I think I think the response

1046
01:01:39,935 --> 01:01:43,495
Speaker 3: as the as the owner knowing that you bought the

1047
01:01:43,575 --> 01:01:45,815
Speaker 3: property knowing that there were some issues that you're going

1048
01:01:45,855 --> 01:01:48,335
Speaker 3: to have to fix. Now you're the owner, you're going

1049
01:01:48,375 --> 01:01:49,135
Speaker 3: to have to fix them.

1050
01:01:50,775 --> 01:01:55,015
Speaker 13: But even you both say, even if I got a

1051
01:01:55,095 --> 01:01:58,415
Speaker 13: consent to go ahead, but the neighbor doesn't want to

1052
01:01:58,495 --> 01:01:59,695
Speaker 13: do anything, what can I do?

1053
01:02:00,695 --> 01:02:03,695
Speaker 3: I think then you probably have to take some legal

1054
01:02:03,775 --> 01:02:07,015
Speaker 3: action to say, you know, in the end it is

1055
01:02:07,135 --> 01:02:10,175
Speaker 3: in your neighbour's interest to allow you to fix it. Right,

1056
01:02:10,335 --> 01:02:13,575
Speaker 3: So there might have to be a negotiation, There might

1057
01:02:13,655 --> 01:02:15,775
Speaker 3: have to be a settlement of some sort. There might

1058
01:02:15,855 --> 01:02:19,175
Speaker 3: even have to be legal action to force it, but

1059
01:02:19,615 --> 01:02:22,695
Speaker 3: ultimately they're going to have to accept some disruption while

1060
01:02:22,735 --> 01:02:27,095
Speaker 3: you repair it. And again that's part of the risk

1061
01:02:27,175 --> 01:02:30,335
Speaker 3: of buying into a building where there are multiple occupancies,

1062
01:02:30,415 --> 01:02:35,335
Speaker 3: right you know, So in that sense you'd hope that

1063
01:02:35,455 --> 01:02:38,935
Speaker 3: your neighbor would be reasonable. But again that's not to

1064
01:02:38,975 --> 01:02:41,735
Speaker 3: say that people aren't reasonable. Jeremy, I've got to move on.

1065
01:02:41,935 --> 01:02:44,735
Speaker 3: I'd be really interested to know where you land with this,

1066
01:02:45,095 --> 01:02:49,455
Speaker 3: so do feel free to call again. Certainly it'll be

1067
01:02:49,495 --> 01:02:51,015
Speaker 3: one of those things that I'll think about again in

1068
01:02:51,055 --> 01:02:53,495
Speaker 3: a couple of months time. I wish you all the

1069
01:02:53,735 --> 01:02:57,295
Speaker 3: very very best with that. It is twenty six minutes

1070
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1071
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1072
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1073
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1074
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1077
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Speaker 4: Of the way.

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Speaker 3: And also you can get on with slashing your electricity

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Speaker 3: bills from day one like Force Solar, proudly New Zealand

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Speaker 3: news said, be quick. Text Pete, what adhesive now you're

1090
01:04:11,015 --> 01:04:12,935
Speaker 3: talking about adhesive given that I glued it to my

1091
01:04:13,095 --> 01:04:16,615
Speaker 3: face this week? What adhesive do you use to glue

1092
01:04:16,695 --> 01:04:19,975
Speaker 3: a brass wood screw into a door frame lock catch

1093
01:04:20,015 --> 01:04:21,895
Speaker 3: that keeps coming out due to the vibration of the

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01:04:21,935 --> 01:04:24,935
Speaker 3: door opening and closing. Thanks Michael, I'll tell you what

1095
01:04:25,175 --> 01:04:27,015
Speaker 3: I would just get a match stick, take the screw out,

1096
01:04:27,255 --> 01:04:29,375
Speaker 3: get a matchstick, jam that in there, tap it and

1097
01:04:29,495 --> 01:04:31,255
Speaker 3: cut the top of the match off and put the

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Speaker 3: screw back in. Job done. Oh eight one hundred and

1099
01:04:33,775 --> 01:04:36,215
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty. The number to call damon good morning,

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01:04:36,255 --> 01:04:41,095
Speaker 3: to you. Why is that not mate? My fingers have

1101
01:04:41,215 --> 01:04:44,015
Speaker 3: dried up. It didn't work. There we go, gotcha, Damon?

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Speaker 3: How are you good?

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01:04:45,735 --> 01:04:45,975
Speaker 5: Thank you?

1104
01:04:46,055 --> 01:04:46,735
Speaker 4: How are you good?

1105
01:04:46,775 --> 01:04:47,015
Speaker 7: Thank you?

1106
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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 14: I just I heard you talking about mold this morning,

1108
01:04:51,095 --> 01:04:55,255
Speaker 14: and I just bringing I me and my family just

1109
01:04:55,335 --> 01:04:58,855
Speaker 14: been through a mold issue over the last over winter

1110
01:04:59,935 --> 01:05:05,455
Speaker 14: and it was extremely peculiar and we we found mold

1111
01:05:05,495 --> 01:05:07,775
Speaker 14: and eventually found mold in our house, but it was

1112
01:05:08,255 --> 01:05:10,575
Speaker 14: not what we thought it would be. So I thought,

1113
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Speaker 14: I'm just going to share.

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01:05:11,975 --> 01:05:12,375
Speaker 12: That with you.

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01:05:12,535 --> 01:05:16,095
Speaker 3: But in terms of the like you you're obviously in

1116
01:05:16,215 --> 01:05:18,335
Speaker 3: the house over the winter, so it's not like it's

1117
01:05:18,375 --> 01:05:21,055
Speaker 3: been locked up and you've been away or something like that.

1118
01:05:22,415 --> 01:05:25,455
Speaker 14: No, it was really my wife complained about the smell

1119
01:05:25,535 --> 01:05:29,415
Speaker 14: in our bedroom and it was really odd the year

1120
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Speaker 14: before last. And I'm actually a builder and I've been

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01:05:32,735 --> 01:05:35,775
Speaker 14: in an industry for thirty four years, so I was like, yeah,

1122
01:05:36,455 --> 01:05:38,255
Speaker 14: but it was a really weird smell and we couldn't

1123
01:05:38,415 --> 01:05:41,295
Speaker 14: we couldn't actually track it down where it was coming from.

1124
01:05:41,935 --> 01:05:44,855
Speaker 14: In the end, I thought maybe the old jewanery was rotting,

1125
01:05:45,015 --> 01:05:47,255
Speaker 14: so I pulled the window out and replaced it with

1126
01:05:47,375 --> 01:05:52,255
Speaker 14: a were a double glaze one yep. And because the

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01:05:52,295 --> 01:05:54,615
Speaker 14: house was it was an older house, but I'd completely

1128
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Speaker 14: gutted it and renovated it, so it was all all

1129
01:05:57,815 --> 01:06:02,015
Speaker 14: new insulation, all new and everything on the inside and

1130
01:06:02,615 --> 01:06:07,135
Speaker 14: twenty and then so going through that, and then that went,

1131
01:06:07,215 --> 01:06:09,415
Speaker 14: and then this went to just being The smell came

1132
01:06:09,495 --> 01:06:12,615
Speaker 14: back really early and it was quite pungent. It was

1133
01:06:13,695 --> 01:06:17,015
Speaker 14: a very weird smell. We couldn't find anything, couldn't All

1134
01:06:17,055 --> 01:06:21,775
Speaker 14: the walls were dry. Moisture tested everything and got a

1135
01:06:21,815 --> 01:06:25,375
Speaker 14: moisture meat went through everything. Everything was dry, dry, dry.

1136
01:06:25,855 --> 01:06:28,575
Speaker 14: It was really odd. But in the end my brother said, look,

1137
01:06:29,095 --> 01:06:31,375
Speaker 14: maybe just get a proper test done. So I got

1138
01:06:31,895 --> 01:06:36,855
Speaker 14: some experts in and they did an ear filter test. Right,

1139
01:06:37,975 --> 01:06:40,415
Speaker 14: I was kind of not to say, poopooing it, but

1140
01:06:40,495 --> 01:06:42,735
Speaker 14: I just didn't think they would find anything because the

1141
01:06:42,815 --> 01:06:46,655
Speaker 14: house was dry on the inside. But lo and behold.

1142
01:06:46,695 --> 01:06:48,415
Speaker 14: He came back and says, mate, you want to get

1143
01:06:48,455 --> 01:06:52,695
Speaker 14: out of your bedroom. It's extremely high and mold spores

1144
01:06:52,735 --> 01:06:56,455
Speaker 14: in your bedroom. And I was like, gosh, how's that

1145
01:06:56,575 --> 01:06:59,815
Speaker 14: even possible? So I went home that night and I

1146
01:06:59,975 --> 01:07:02,015
Speaker 14: just sort of tore the bedroom apart a bit, and

1147
01:07:03,455 --> 01:07:07,055
Speaker 14: when I removed the beard away from the wall. This

1148
01:07:07,375 --> 01:07:12,495
Speaker 14: real strong smell of damp came imiating into the bedroom

1149
01:07:12,615 --> 01:07:15,135
Speaker 14: and it was very strong. It was even stinging my eyes.

1150
01:07:16,855 --> 01:07:22,735
Speaker 14: So three so we got out of there and removed

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01:07:22,775 --> 01:07:28,295
Speaker 14: ourselves from the room, and then found that the actual

1152
01:07:28,535 --> 01:07:31,535
Speaker 14: back of the beard is one hundred million inside where

1153
01:07:31,535 --> 01:07:33,855
Speaker 14: the mattress was the back of the bed, and the

1154
01:07:33,935 --> 01:07:37,455
Speaker 14: wall was spiking to about thirty on the moisturemeter, so

1155
01:07:37,535 --> 01:07:42,695
Speaker 14: it's pretty high. And so I tore the side of

1156
01:07:42,735 --> 01:07:45,095
Speaker 14: the house, thinking for a leak from the en suite,

1157
01:07:45,255 --> 01:07:50,255
Speaker 14: but nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing anywhere, And all it was

1158
01:07:50,535 --> 01:07:53,815
Speaker 14: was down to what we can We obviously threw out

1159
01:07:53,815 --> 01:07:56,695
Speaker 14: the mattress and everything, but what it seemed to go

1160
01:07:56,895 --> 01:07:59,855
Speaker 14: down to is that we had just bad habits with

1161
01:07:59,935 --> 01:08:04,215
Speaker 14: our on suite door open while howing yep, yeah, and

1162
01:08:04,375 --> 01:08:08,095
Speaker 14: then having a we we'd just had a baby boy

1163
01:08:08,175 --> 01:08:10,855
Speaker 14: and he was sharing our room for the first year

1164
01:08:10,895 --> 01:08:13,135
Speaker 14: and a half and there was three of us in

1165
01:08:13,255 --> 01:08:18,495
Speaker 14: there and obviously not getting enough ventilation, so things something

1166
01:08:18,735 --> 01:08:21,775
Speaker 14: just caught and we found it must have been living

1167
01:08:21,815 --> 01:08:25,655
Speaker 14: in our mattress, the mold, and it was causing us

1168
01:08:25,695 --> 01:08:26,775
Speaker 14: all sorts of problems.

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01:08:28,615 --> 01:08:31,815
Speaker 3: Ailments, and certainly I think one of the things we're

1170
01:08:31,815 --> 01:08:35,415
Speaker 3: starting to appreciate, you know, especially you know, old houses

1171
01:08:35,495 --> 01:08:38,975
Speaker 3: like the one that I'm in. You know, they're pretty drafty, right,

1172
01:08:39,095 --> 01:08:46,295
Speaker 3: and the drafts kind of mitigate the fact that as

1173
01:08:46,375 --> 01:08:48,815
Speaker 3: we get more and more air type, ventilation becomes more

1174
01:08:48,855 --> 01:08:50,415
Speaker 3: and more of an issue. So if you've done a

1175
01:08:50,495 --> 01:08:54,055
Speaker 3: really good job of sort of your retro fitting the

1176
01:08:54,135 --> 01:08:59,575
Speaker 3: house by adding better joinery, adding insulation, closing up all

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01:08:59,615 --> 01:09:02,655
Speaker 3: of those gaps and cracks that kind of give ventilation

1178
01:09:02,855 --> 01:09:05,735
Speaker 3: via infiltration, which is not a great form of ventilation

1179
01:09:05,975 --> 01:09:09,895
Speaker 3: but is ventilation in a sense, then yeah, you can

1180
01:09:10,055 --> 01:09:11,455
Speaker 3: you can end up with that. And then if you've

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01:09:11,495 --> 01:09:14,255
Speaker 3: got an on suite and you shower with the door open,

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01:09:15,175 --> 01:09:17,815
Speaker 3: three people in a room for a fairly long period

1183
01:09:17,855 --> 01:09:20,775
Speaker 3: of time, all of the sources of moisture would combine

1184
01:09:21,255 --> 01:09:23,975
Speaker 3: to create the environment. So it is one of the

1185
01:09:24,055 --> 01:09:27,295
Speaker 3: keys to it, you know, ventilation, like better ventilation out

1186
01:09:27,295 --> 01:09:29,895
Speaker 3: of the bathroom, maybe making sure you close the door

1187
01:09:29,935 --> 01:09:32,895
Speaker 3: when you're having a shower on the en suite, and

1188
01:09:33,415 --> 01:09:36,375
Speaker 3: being much more like what have you done to fix it?

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01:09:36,735 --> 01:09:39,255
Speaker 3: Are you much more active in terms of going, hey,

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01:09:39,295 --> 01:09:40,975
Speaker 3: look as soon as the temperature is right, I'm going

1191
01:09:41,015 --> 01:09:42,935
Speaker 3: to open the windows. I'm going to get some ventilation

1192
01:09:43,135 --> 01:09:46,735
Speaker 3: during the day, maybe adding some more extraction to the house.

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01:09:46,815 --> 01:09:47,415
Speaker 3: What have you done?

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Speaker 14: So immediately we went and got a dejamidifire and we

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01:09:52,615 --> 01:09:56,415
Speaker 14: started running that in the evenings after it right yep

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01:09:56,975 --> 01:10:01,495
Speaker 14: in the bedroom. But yes, be more proactive about opening

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01:10:01,575 --> 01:10:05,055
Speaker 14: windows through the day and also like that, shut that

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01:10:05,175 --> 01:10:09,495
Speaker 14: door to the on swite when we showering. And we're

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01:10:09,495 --> 01:10:12,415
Speaker 14: also looking into so I went down the road looking

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Speaker 14: into a HIV system for the house. And what I've

1201
01:10:17,535 --> 01:10:21,095
Speaker 14: found out through that process is that even the modern homes,

1202
01:10:21,135 --> 01:10:23,815
Speaker 14: in fact, more so the modern homes that are smaller

1203
01:10:24,015 --> 01:10:27,215
Speaker 14: having the bigger issues because there's less air in the

1204
01:10:27,295 --> 01:10:31,935
Speaker 14: house move around with our bigger volume houses with more space,

1205
01:10:32,255 --> 01:10:35,775
Speaker 14: they don't seem to create that issue so much. And

1206
01:10:36,015 --> 01:10:39,775
Speaker 14: having a system that can remove that dailer out and

1207
01:10:39,895 --> 01:10:44,175
Speaker 14: put fresh air in is because my brother's also a builder,

1208
01:10:44,215 --> 01:10:46,495
Speaker 14: and I've been talking to him at length and he

1209
01:10:46,655 --> 01:10:52,455
Speaker 14: believes that the those codes that shut and made everything

1210
01:10:52,535 --> 01:10:55,095
Speaker 14: air tight is actually causing us more issues and we

1211
01:10:55,135 --> 01:10:57,215
Speaker 14: should have really put our money and our time into

1212
01:10:58,455 --> 01:11:02,415
Speaker 14: putting some codes around a better ventilation for houses that

1213
01:11:02,495 --> 01:11:04,655
Speaker 14: are smaller or anyhow.

1214
01:11:04,455 --> 01:11:06,935
Speaker 3: And look, I wouldn't discrew you on that. What I

1215
01:11:07,055 --> 01:11:10,015
Speaker 3: hope doesn't happen though, And I've started to see this

1216
01:11:10,895 --> 01:11:14,015
Speaker 3: in sort of the public discourse as people going, oh, look,

1217
01:11:14,055 --> 01:11:16,775
Speaker 3: the problem with our houses is that they're too well insulated,

1218
01:11:17,375 --> 01:11:22,095
Speaker 3: and that's you know, just wrong. Yeah, it is rubbish, right,

1219
01:11:22,215 --> 01:11:25,935
Speaker 3: but it's a very popular idea at the moment that

1220
01:11:26,135 --> 01:11:28,975
Speaker 3: you know, houses are overheating and so on because we've

1221
01:11:29,015 --> 01:11:31,575
Speaker 3: gone too far with the insulation. We need to wind

1222
01:11:31,615 --> 01:11:34,895
Speaker 3: that back. We don't. Our insulation standards are not still

1223
01:11:34,975 --> 01:11:37,335
Speaker 3: not particularly high. But what we do need to do

1224
01:11:37,575 --> 01:11:41,895
Speaker 3: is take a holistic approach in terms of understanding building

1225
01:11:41,975 --> 01:11:45,375
Speaker 3: science and understanding how buildings perform and going Okay, what's

1226
01:11:45,455 --> 01:11:48,295
Speaker 3: really important then is that we do actually need to ventilate,

1227
01:11:48,375 --> 01:11:51,575
Speaker 3: and we need to actively ventilate properties if we're not

1228
01:11:51,695 --> 01:11:58,135
Speaker 3: getting this sort of accidental ventilation via infiltration right drafty houses,

1229
01:11:58,615 --> 01:12:00,535
Speaker 3: so if we can control it, we need to be

1230
01:12:00,655 --> 01:12:03,055
Speaker 3: much more active in that. And like you, I've you know,

1231
01:12:03,575 --> 01:12:06,495
Speaker 3: mold is a persistent issue. I'm dealing with it in

1232
01:12:06,575 --> 01:12:09,535
Speaker 3: another property and one of the things I've done is

1233
01:12:10,095 --> 01:12:14,215
Speaker 3: I'm swapping out the extractor fan that's there for an

1234
01:12:14,335 --> 01:12:19,215
Speaker 3: updated one that has a humidity sensor included in the fan.

1235
01:12:19,615 --> 01:12:19,775
Speaker 14: Right.

1236
01:12:19,935 --> 01:12:24,895
Speaker 3: So Cynics have just introduced these to the market. I'm

1237
01:12:24,935 --> 01:12:27,695
Speaker 3: going to swap out the old extractor put this one in.

1238
01:12:28,175 --> 01:12:29,855
Speaker 3: And what that will do is it will measure the

1239
01:12:29,935 --> 01:12:34,095
Speaker 3: humidity in the room and boost the performance of the

1240
01:12:34,375 --> 01:12:38,575
Speaker 3: fan depending on what's actually happening in the room. And

1241
01:12:38,735 --> 01:12:42,655
Speaker 3: when even when there's no activity, let's say in the room,

1242
01:12:43,015 --> 01:12:45,655
Speaker 3: it will still continue to run just to allow for

1243
01:12:45,735 --> 01:12:50,815
Speaker 3: that constant exchange of air, right, and then have essentially

1244
01:12:50,855 --> 01:12:52,895
Speaker 3: a boost on it. So you know, maybe something like

1245
01:12:52,975 --> 01:12:54,455
Speaker 3: that is something that you could look at for your

1246
01:12:54,495 --> 01:12:57,455
Speaker 3: place as well. I've got to move on, but I

1247
01:12:57,615 --> 01:13:00,495
Speaker 3: really appreciate the insight and so on, and particularly for

1248
01:13:00,575 --> 01:13:02,855
Speaker 3: someone who's gone through it. And you know, the remarkable

1249
01:13:02,895 --> 01:13:06,175
Speaker 3: thing is that even like good houses can still get mold.

1250
01:13:06,335 --> 01:13:09,655
Speaker 3: That's that's what the message is there. Really appreciate damon,

1251
01:13:09,735 --> 01:13:12,095
Speaker 3: and good on you, and thanks for calling. Really appreciate it.

1252
01:13:12,175 --> 01:13:13,815
Speaker 3: Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty the number

1253
01:13:13,815 --> 01:13:18,175
Speaker 3: to call. Take short break back in a moment you

1254
01:13:18,295 --> 01:13:21,295
Speaker 3: and new Stalks. It'd been at seven forty three and minshew,

1255
01:13:21,375 --> 01:13:22,215
Speaker 3: good morning to you.

1256
01:13:23,775 --> 01:13:28,335
Speaker 15: Good morning Peter, how are you very well? Enjoy your show?

1257
01:13:28,575 --> 01:13:28,855
Speaker 12: Thank you.

1258
01:13:30,215 --> 01:13:32,415
Speaker 15: Hey, I've got a tricky question for you.

1259
01:13:35,055 --> 01:13:35,815
Speaker 5: I like relation.

1260
01:13:36,455 --> 01:13:40,855
Speaker 15: Yeah, underfloor insulation. Yes, now we have we have a

1261
01:13:40,935 --> 01:13:45,975
Speaker 15: few different material type such as whorl, polyst glass, woll

1262
01:13:46,295 --> 01:13:51,375
Speaker 15: in part it thin, something like the export stuff. So

1263
01:13:51,535 --> 01:13:58,535
Speaker 15: my question is which type of material as more resistant

1264
01:13:59,375 --> 01:14:00,615
Speaker 15: to borrow attack.

1265
01:14:03,055 --> 01:14:06,695
Speaker 3: I would imagine none of those products are particularly tractive

1266
01:14:06,775 --> 01:14:07,255
Speaker 3: to bora.

1267
01:14:09,615 --> 01:14:09,815
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1268
01:14:09,975 --> 01:14:14,455
Speaker 3: I mean if it's a glassful one, if it's a

1269
01:14:14,735 --> 01:14:17,695
Speaker 3: pure wool, if it's one hundred percent pure polyester, if

1270
01:14:17,735 --> 01:14:20,975
Speaker 3: it's polystyrene, I can't see bora being attracted to any

1271
01:14:21,055 --> 01:14:23,855
Speaker 3: of that because there's actually no organic material.

1272
01:14:23,935 --> 01:14:25,295
Speaker 15: They're all equal.

1273
01:14:25,895 --> 01:14:30,415
Speaker 3: Yes, I specifically in terms of bora. I can't see

1274
01:14:30,495 --> 01:14:34,855
Speaker 3: any anything that's attractive in any of those products for bora.

1275
01:14:36,775 --> 01:14:40,455
Speaker 15: Okay, Well, the reason I markets is my border brought

1276
01:14:40,775 --> 01:14:45,455
Speaker 15: an old house one hundred years old in the central

1277
01:14:45,535 --> 01:14:52,695
Speaker 15: Auckland area. Yes, and well it's due to inspection indicated

1278
01:14:52,855 --> 01:14:58,375
Speaker 15: there's some borer attack, so she got the insect control

1279
01:14:58,415 --> 01:15:03,575
Speaker 15: guiding and but they requires the rip of the existing insulation,

1280
01:15:04,575 --> 01:15:07,415
Speaker 15: which is the expo type of stuff, you know, they

1281
01:15:08,695 --> 01:15:12,935
Speaker 15: they put it then, so we asked, We asked the guy,

1282
01:15:13,015 --> 01:15:19,935
Speaker 15: as you say, well this this material more attractive to

1283
01:15:20,575 --> 01:15:24,695
Speaker 15: to bora or or you know, any other types that

1284
01:15:25,095 --> 01:15:28,335
Speaker 15: they're not one hundred percent sure, but they said, well,

1285
01:15:28,495 --> 01:15:32,975
Speaker 15: these these exposed stuff the easier for the bora to

1286
01:15:33,055 --> 01:15:36,495
Speaker 15: penetrate through. So for their recommendation is for us to

1287
01:15:36,535 --> 01:15:40,615
Speaker 15: replace them with a different material. So that's why I'm asking.

1288
01:15:40,935 --> 01:15:46,695
Speaker 3: Okay, look, the good news is that in about half

1289
01:15:46,735 --> 01:15:50,215
Speaker 3: an hour Rudklin Passed, who is far more qualified than

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01:15:50,255 --> 01:15:52,055
Speaker 3: I am to talk about bora, is going to be

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01:15:52,135 --> 01:15:54,655
Speaker 3: on the show. So why don't I put that question

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01:15:54,855 --> 01:15:57,855
Speaker 3: to Rud and we'll get his opinion given that he's

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01:15:57,855 --> 01:15:58,655
Speaker 3: an entomologist.

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01:16:00,375 --> 01:16:04,375
Speaker 15: Excellent, Yeah, I thought, Is he still going to be

1295
01:16:04,495 --> 01:16:07,855
Speaker 15: on quarter past the rugby game?

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01:16:08,175 --> 01:16:09,775
Speaker 3: I know, but we're going to start early because I

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01:16:09,815 --> 01:16:11,815
Speaker 3: know you don't want to miss out on time with Rud,

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01:16:11,975 --> 01:16:16,175
Speaker 3: So that will be my first question. Stay listening, excellent,

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01:16:16,895 --> 01:16:21,615
Speaker 3: No trouble, Take care. Then eight hundred eighty ten eighty

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01:16:21,735 --> 01:16:26,295
Speaker 3: is the number to call back after the break. And

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01:16:26,535 --> 01:16:28,655
Speaker 3: just to reminder, Ridd will be joining us a little

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01:16:28,655 --> 01:16:30,895
Speaker 3: bit earlier. In the next hour of the program, we're

1303
01:16:30,935 --> 01:16:33,855
Speaker 3: going to hand over to the commentary team for the

1304
01:16:33,975 --> 01:16:36,495
Speaker 3: last match of the All Blacks Northern Tour, so All

1305
01:16:36,575 --> 01:16:40,015
Speaker 3: Blacks v Italy. That'll kick off just after nine o'clock

1306
01:16:40,055 --> 01:16:42,455
Speaker 3: at about eight forty five. We'll hand over to the

1307
01:16:42,495 --> 01:16:46,815
Speaker 3: commentary team ahead of that live coverage of the match.

1308
01:16:46,895 --> 01:16:49,375
Speaker 3: So Ridd'll be joining us about quarter past eight this morning,

1309
01:16:49,695 --> 01:16:51,215
Speaker 3: which means not a lot of time for you to

1310
01:16:51,295 --> 01:16:54,215
Speaker 3: get your building questions. And eight hundred and eighty ten

1311
01:16:54,335 --> 01:16:55,495
Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call.

1312
01:16:55,575 --> 01:16:58,935
Speaker 8: Hello Faye, Hello Pete.

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01:16:58,975 --> 01:17:00,575
Speaker 3: How are you very well? Thank you?

1314
01:17:01,695 --> 01:17:04,815
Speaker 10: I'm just ringing. My son wants to convert the garage

1315
01:17:04,975 --> 01:17:10,335
Speaker 10: into a full speed Yes, the house is twenty years old.

1316
01:17:11,095 --> 01:17:11,295
Speaker 14: Yep.

1317
01:17:12,695 --> 01:17:15,935
Speaker 10: I just said it'd probably be cheaper to do one

1318
01:17:16,015 --> 01:17:16,415
Speaker 10: out the back.

1319
01:17:16,655 --> 01:17:18,255
Speaker 16: It's got a fair.

1320
01:17:18,095 --> 01:17:21,615
Speaker 10: Bitter end, right because you had to have a permit

1321
01:17:21,775 --> 01:17:25,855
Speaker 10: and can you do that convert the garage you can, but.

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01:17:26,175 --> 01:17:29,095
Speaker 3: It is it's a change of use, right, So garages

1323
01:17:29,135 --> 01:17:31,455
Speaker 3: are designed to be garages, not to be bedrooms, and

1324
01:17:32,375 --> 01:17:35,335
Speaker 3: in terms of compliance, you need to ensure that it's

1325
01:17:36,135 --> 01:17:38,935
Speaker 3: a safe habitable space, right. So one of the things

1326
01:17:39,015 --> 01:17:43,295
Speaker 3: council will look at is ventilation, They'll look at insulation,

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01:17:43,615 --> 01:17:48,175
Speaker 3: They'll potentially look at is there a vapor barrier underneath

1328
01:17:48,215 --> 01:17:51,815
Speaker 3: the concrete slab if it's concrete slab, And then obviously

1329
01:17:51,895 --> 01:17:54,495
Speaker 3: you'll want to take the garage door out and replace

1330
01:17:54,575 --> 01:17:58,735
Speaker 3: it with joinery. So there might be issues around insulation,

1331
01:17:58,975 --> 01:18:03,255
Speaker 3: double glazing, those sorts of things. But it most definitely

1332
01:18:03,455 --> 01:18:05,935
Speaker 3: requires a building consent. But it sounds like you already

1333
01:18:05,975 --> 01:18:06,135
Speaker 3: know that.

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01:18:07,335 --> 01:18:07,895
Speaker 14: Yeah, I do.

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01:18:08,695 --> 01:18:14,975
Speaker 10: Yes, So I've double grazes a home anys before, before

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01:18:15,055 --> 01:18:19,695
Speaker 10: the double grazing wasmentatory. So yes, yeah, so I said

1337
01:18:19,695 --> 01:18:23,055
Speaker 10: it would probably be better to build a sleep out,

1338
01:18:23,095 --> 01:18:25,735
Speaker 10: a big one as high as you can go without

1339
01:18:25,775 --> 01:18:28,735
Speaker 10: the purpents net. But once just put the toilet share

1340
01:18:28,775 --> 01:18:30,135
Speaker 10: in this and you've got to have a permit.

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01:18:30,575 --> 01:18:32,535
Speaker 3: You need a consent for that as well. Now that

1342
01:18:32,975 --> 01:18:36,495
Speaker 3: potentially is up for some discussion at the moment. Certainly

1343
01:18:36,535 --> 01:18:39,375
Speaker 3: the you know, it's it's not law now, but it

1344
01:18:39,535 --> 01:18:43,015
Speaker 3: is something that this current government is looking at. Is that,

1345
01:18:43,295 --> 01:18:46,135
Speaker 3: you know, can we build well as much as sixty

1346
01:18:46,175 --> 01:18:50,535
Speaker 3: square meters in some cases without necessarily requiring a consent.

1347
01:18:50,735 --> 01:18:55,215
Speaker 3: But right now, yes, doing any plumbing you can build

1348
01:18:55,295 --> 01:18:59,255
Speaker 3: up to thirty up to thirty square meters within certain guidelines.

1349
01:19:01,055 --> 01:19:03,255
Speaker 3: But as soon as you put in any sanitary fitting,

1350
01:19:03,415 --> 01:19:05,615
Speaker 3: so as soon as you add shower and toilet and

1351
01:19:05,655 --> 01:19:09,015
Speaker 3: those sorts of things, it requires triggers the requirement for

1352
01:19:09,095 --> 01:19:09,775
Speaker 3: building consent.

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01:19:10,455 --> 01:19:12,135
Speaker 10: Yeah, rather it be done properly.

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01:19:12,295 --> 01:19:15,455
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, Yes, too. Properly is really important.

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01:19:16,415 --> 01:19:20,335
Speaker 10: That would be, you know, doing the garage, and you've

1356
01:19:20,335 --> 01:19:21,415
Speaker 10: got to build another garage of.

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01:19:21,455 --> 01:19:22,655
Speaker 14: Which to go the other way.

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01:19:23,215 --> 01:19:27,175
Speaker 3: Yeah, you might be right good on you. Yeah, okay,

1359
01:19:29,295 --> 01:19:31,495
Speaker 3: and you have a great day to take care. Then,

1360
01:19:32,375 --> 01:19:34,175
Speaker 3: all the very best to you. We've got time for

1361
01:19:34,255 --> 01:19:36,135
Speaker 3: your calls. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty the

1362
01:19:36,215 --> 01:19:39,135
Speaker 3: number to call. Good morning, says the Texter. I'd appreciate

1363
01:19:39,215 --> 01:19:41,375
Speaker 3: your thoughts on next steps. For some friends of mine

1364
01:19:41,375 --> 01:19:43,655
Speaker 3: who are in the nineteen seventies Lockwood in one of

1365
01:19:43,695 --> 01:19:45,935
Speaker 3: the bedrooms. Above the window, there are gaps that are

1366
01:19:45,975 --> 01:19:49,055
Speaker 3: appearing between the wall and the roof that you can

1367
01:19:49,135 --> 01:19:52,695
Speaker 3: see light through. It only seems to be in one room.

1368
01:19:54,735 --> 01:19:58,375
Speaker 3: Given that Lockwood's still around in business and probably will

1369
01:19:58,455 --> 01:20:00,295
Speaker 3: be for many many years to come, I would be

1370
01:20:00,495 --> 01:20:03,415
Speaker 3: inclined to get in touch with them. And just get

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01:20:03,455 --> 01:20:05,535
Speaker 3: one of their experts maybe to come out and have

1372
01:20:05,615 --> 01:20:08,255
Speaker 3: a look at it, not necessarily holding them responsible for

1373
01:20:08,335 --> 01:20:10,855
Speaker 3: it if it's a nineteen seventies bill, but they might

1374
01:20:10,935 --> 01:20:13,415
Speaker 3: be able to offer up some opinion. It might be

1375
01:20:13,575 --> 01:20:16,215
Speaker 3: that there's some subsidence and the wall is dropping and

1376
01:20:16,295 --> 01:20:18,735
Speaker 3: the roof is staying in the same place. It might

1377
01:20:18,815 --> 01:20:21,455
Speaker 3: be that there's some uplift for some reason that's occurred.

1378
01:20:21,495 --> 01:20:25,855
Speaker 3: There might just be shrinkage. So my suggestion would be

1379
01:20:25,975 --> 01:20:28,575
Speaker 3: that you actually go and get in touch with Lockwood

1380
01:20:28,615 --> 01:20:31,535
Speaker 3: in the first instance, and invite them to come out

1381
01:20:31,935 --> 01:20:34,695
Speaker 3: and have a we look a couple of things. One

1382
01:20:34,735 --> 01:20:37,535
Speaker 3: of the things that I've has occupied I do know

1383
01:20:37,695 --> 01:20:40,495
Speaker 3: last day and a half of my life has been

1384
01:20:40,655 --> 01:20:44,135
Speaker 3: making I don't even know how I get into these

1385
01:20:44,175 --> 01:20:47,895
Speaker 3: sorts of things. But our son is involved with the

1386
01:20:48,015 --> 01:20:50,615
Speaker 3: National Youth Theater who are putting on a performance starting

1387
01:20:50,655 --> 01:20:53,775
Speaker 3: on Thursday at the Arta Center in Auckland of Alice

1388
01:20:54,375 --> 01:20:57,535
Speaker 3: Wonderland Journey. So it's kind of a reimagining of the

1389
01:20:57,695 --> 01:21:01,335
Speaker 3: classic Alice in Wonderland story with all of the same characters,

1390
01:21:01,895 --> 01:21:03,895
Speaker 3: and there is that scene. I don't know the story

1391
01:21:03,935 --> 01:21:05,735
Speaker 3: particularly well. I think I'll get to know it a

1392
01:21:05,775 --> 01:21:07,375
Speaker 3: little bit more over the next week as I go

1393
01:21:07,495 --> 01:21:10,975
Speaker 3: and see the show a couple of times where Alice

1394
01:21:10,975 --> 01:21:13,935
Speaker 3: obviously goes into Wonderland and everything is large, and so

1395
01:21:15,055 --> 01:21:19,735
Speaker 3: the Mad Hatter, the character there, has a large top

1396
01:21:19,815 --> 01:21:22,415
Speaker 3: hat that then has to be large enough from which

1397
01:21:22,655 --> 01:21:26,015
Speaker 3: a rabbit needs to appear. And so that job ended

1398
01:21:26,095 --> 01:21:28,895
Speaker 3: up on my desk or in my workshop, to be fair,

1399
01:21:29,415 --> 01:21:32,135
Speaker 3: and I spent a happy couple of day in a

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01:21:32,215 --> 01:21:38,295
Speaker 3: bit making a large elliptical top hat with brim on

1401
01:21:38,615 --> 01:21:42,895
Speaker 3: casters that can be wheeled out onto the stage as

1402
01:21:43,015 --> 01:21:45,775
Speaker 3: part of that. I have to say I've been to

1403
01:21:46,095 --> 01:21:49,055
Speaker 3: any number of the National Youth Theaters shows over the years.

1404
01:21:49,735 --> 01:21:52,135
Speaker 3: They're a hell of a lot of fun. It's just

1405
01:21:52,535 --> 01:21:55,295
Speaker 3: so fantastic to see all of these young kids, and

1406
01:21:55,335 --> 01:21:58,095
Speaker 3: we're talking you know, five, six, seven up to about

1407
01:21:58,135 --> 01:22:04,655
Speaker 3: age twenty twenty one involved in these enormous productions, incredibly professional.

1408
01:22:05,695 --> 01:22:08,615
Speaker 3: It's on at the the Artas Center from I think

1409
01:22:08,655 --> 01:22:12,095
Speaker 3: the first public show is public shows are Saturday and Sunday.

1410
01:22:12,095 --> 01:22:13,815
Speaker 3: They do a whole lot of shows for schools. They

1411
01:22:13,895 --> 01:22:16,375
Speaker 3: invite schools to come along, which is fabulous as well.

1412
01:22:16,975 --> 01:22:20,295
Speaker 3: But the public shows are on Saturday and Sunday. I'll

1413
01:22:20,335 --> 01:22:24,095
Speaker 3: be going along Saturday night, so if you see me there,

1414
01:22:24,335 --> 01:22:29,175
Speaker 3: say hello. And it's a great show. So allis on

1415
01:22:29,495 --> 01:22:33,255
Speaker 3: at the Altair Center from Saturday and Sunday. Tickets on

1416
01:22:33,615 --> 01:22:35,735
Speaker 3: ticket Master, all that sort of thing. And somewhere in

1417
01:22:35,775 --> 01:22:37,975
Speaker 3: there you might even get to see the hat that

1418
01:22:38,095 --> 01:22:40,495
Speaker 3: I made. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is

1419
01:22:40,575 --> 01:22:43,055
Speaker 3: the number to call. I think we'll leave John too

1420
01:22:43,335 --> 01:22:47,015
Speaker 3: after the break because we're right on top of news time.

1421
01:22:48,015 --> 01:22:52,895
Speaker 3: Lots of texts coming in around, you know, the mold issues.

1422
01:22:53,495 --> 01:22:56,295
Speaker 3: I guess it's been fascinating. Pete loved the show, really

1423
01:22:56,375 --> 01:22:58,695
Speaker 3: interested to hear about the bedroom mold. I wonder about

1424
01:22:58,895 --> 01:23:02,175
Speaker 3: like high padded headboards that are attached to the wall,

1425
01:23:02,615 --> 01:23:05,615
Speaker 3: no gap between the mattress the headboard, no airflow. Just

1426
01:23:05,695 --> 01:23:10,295
Speaker 3: a thought. Are you're absolutely right, Judy, ventilation in all spaces.

1427
01:23:10,655 --> 01:23:12,615
Speaker 3: You know, we've got use to this idea that we

1428
01:23:12,735 --> 01:23:16,175
Speaker 3: need extraction and wet areas, bathrooms, laundries, kitchens, et cetera.

1429
01:23:16,575 --> 01:23:18,735
Speaker 3: But really we need ventilation right through the house, and

1430
01:23:18,815 --> 01:23:21,695
Speaker 3: it needs to be active and it needs to be controllable.

1431
01:23:21,935 --> 01:23:23,655
Speaker 3: I might talk a little bit more about that in

1432
01:23:23,855 --> 01:23:27,295
Speaker 3: the next hour. Remember rid Cline passed from eight fifteen

1433
01:23:27,375 --> 01:23:32,775
Speaker 3: this morning. Rhot's going to join us shortly because we've

1434
01:23:32,815 --> 01:23:35,655
Speaker 3: got the All Blacks the last match of the Northern

1435
01:23:35,735 --> 01:23:38,975
Speaker 3: Tour live commentary here at news Talks. He'd be from

1436
01:23:39,055 --> 01:23:43,215
Speaker 3: around well build up at around quarter to nine the match.

1437
01:23:43,455 --> 01:23:46,255
Speaker 3: Just after nine o'clock. A couple of texts coming in

1438
01:23:46,335 --> 01:23:49,175
Speaker 3: about bronze beetles, so that's a heads up for it.

1439
01:23:49,375 --> 01:23:51,295
Speaker 3: We need to talk about that, and we need to

1440
01:23:51,335 --> 01:23:54,895
Speaker 3: answer the question posed by a caller earlier on around

1441
01:23:55,055 --> 01:23:58,815
Speaker 3: underfloor insulation and is a particular type of underfloor insulation

1442
01:23:59,655 --> 01:24:04,495
Speaker 3: a more inviting habitat for borer than other types of insulation.

1443
01:24:04,695 --> 01:24:07,255
Speaker 3: So we'll cover that off through it as well. But

1444
01:24:07,415 --> 01:24:09,415
Speaker 3: right now, John, are very good morning to you. How

1445
01:24:09,455 --> 01:24:12,735
Speaker 3: are you doing? For some reason, it's not working. This

1446
01:24:12,895 --> 01:24:16,535
Speaker 3: is working, John, Greetings, John number one, apologies.

1447
01:24:16,855 --> 01:24:19,255
Speaker 4: Good morning, Pete. I love your work, Thank you.

1448
01:24:19,335 --> 01:24:22,655
Speaker 17: Bet Yeah. Hey, I've got a glimping tent that we've

1449
01:24:22,655 --> 01:24:25,335
Speaker 17: put up. It's been up for about three years now

1450
01:24:25,415 --> 01:24:27,775
Speaker 17: and it's done really well. But the canvas are starting

1451
01:24:27,815 --> 01:24:30,975
Speaker 17: to show some mold and I've tried a couple of

1452
01:24:31,055 --> 01:24:34,855
Speaker 17: things I've tried vinegar, which, as you can imagine, is

1453
01:24:35,175 --> 01:24:38,895
Speaker 17: probably pretty less effective being a check solution, and then

1454
01:24:38,935 --> 01:24:41,135
Speaker 17: I tried wit and forget, which is way more expensive.

1455
01:24:42,375 --> 01:24:44,255
Speaker 17: It seemed to have some effect, and maybe I need

1456
01:24:44,335 --> 01:24:45,895
Speaker 17: to have another go at it. But I wondered if

1457
01:24:45,935 --> 01:24:48,615
Speaker 17: you had some suggestions around.

1458
01:24:48,375 --> 01:24:51,015
Speaker 3: How to Oh, would you just try something like exit mold.

1459
01:24:52,695 --> 01:24:55,335
Speaker 4: Well, apparently some of those other products like.

1460
01:24:55,415 --> 01:24:57,695
Speaker 3: That can be a bit corrosively sort of thing.

1461
01:24:57,855 --> 01:25:00,975
Speaker 4: Yeah, and rot the canvas. I'm obviously worry about that.

1462
01:25:03,095 --> 01:25:05,095
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you want to agree with you put it on.

1463
01:25:05,575 --> 01:25:05,775
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1464
01:25:07,455 --> 01:25:09,415
Speaker 3: No, I mean, I understand what you're saying you need.

1465
01:25:09,575 --> 01:25:11,815
Speaker 3: There's a certain amount of caution, isn't there around some

1466
01:25:11,935 --> 01:25:14,935
Speaker 3: of these more aggressive chemicals, let's say.

1467
01:25:15,855 --> 01:25:19,855
Speaker 17: But maybe I could like put some bleached chemical on

1468
01:25:20,055 --> 01:25:23,215
Speaker 17: and the water blasted off. I don't know whether that

1469
01:25:23,255 --> 01:25:24,415
Speaker 17: would effectively get out.

1470
01:25:25,735 --> 01:25:27,575
Speaker 3: I mean, is it also one of those things where

1471
01:25:27,615 --> 01:25:29,895
Speaker 3: these things have a lifespan? You know what I mean?

1472
01:25:29,975 --> 01:25:36,015
Speaker 17: And absolutely absolutely, but I'm expecting ten years. Yeah, yeah,

1473
01:25:36,055 --> 01:25:37,655
Speaker 17: and I want it to look good for as long

1474
01:25:37,695 --> 01:25:38,335
Speaker 17: as possible.

1475
01:25:39,295 --> 01:25:43,135
Speaker 3: Do you also redo the waterproofing on the canvas over time?

1476
01:25:45,455 --> 01:25:48,975
Speaker 17: I've heard something about that but I'm not really an expert.

1477
01:25:49,175 --> 01:25:52,815
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, John, I think for something like that, you know,

1478
01:25:52,895 --> 01:25:55,975
Speaker 3: you're better off talking to some old fashioned campers who

1479
01:25:55,975 --> 01:25:58,095
Speaker 3: have used canvas for a long time. I mean, I

1480
01:25:58,135 --> 01:26:00,295
Speaker 3: can't imagine this. Too many canvas tents out there now,

1481
01:26:00,375 --> 01:26:02,935
Speaker 3: with all of the flash, hairy sort of stuff that's

1482
01:26:03,095 --> 01:26:05,255
Speaker 3: that's available now, blow up tents and all the rest

1483
01:26:05,295 --> 01:26:09,295
Speaker 3: of it. But even someone like Canvas City, if they're

1484
01:26:09,335 --> 01:26:11,815
Speaker 3: still in business, would probably be able to offer up

1485
01:26:11,895 --> 01:26:15,455
Speaker 3: some decent advice there. Okay, I'd have a crack at

1486
01:26:15,975 --> 01:26:19,135
Speaker 3: all the verys to you and John number two. I'm

1487
01:26:19,135 --> 01:26:21,615
Speaker 3: sure you've got a bit of surname than John number two,

1488
01:26:21,695 --> 01:26:24,495
Speaker 3: But here John number two showers goody John.

1489
01:26:26,215 --> 01:26:26,655
Speaker 4: Good noise.

1490
01:26:26,695 --> 01:26:26,895
Speaker 13: Peter.

1491
01:26:26,975 --> 01:26:30,175
Speaker 6: Now, we've got a problem with a juttering cold water

1492
01:26:30,415 --> 01:26:34,935
Speaker 6: tap in our bathroom. We've had it since we built

1493
01:26:34,975 --> 01:26:37,895
Speaker 6: the batch about six years ago. It doesn't happen all

1494
01:26:37,935 --> 01:26:41,055
Speaker 6: the time, it just occasional, but when it happens, it

1495
01:26:41,135 --> 01:26:44,175
Speaker 6: makes one hell of a noise and the water tends

1496
01:26:44,215 --> 01:26:48,215
Speaker 6: to spurt out in intermittently. Right, we're on rain water,

1497
01:26:48,695 --> 01:26:52,615
Speaker 6: so obviously the water is getting to the tap via

1498
01:26:52,855 --> 01:26:56,735
Speaker 6: from a pump, and it is the furthest tap we've

1499
01:26:56,815 --> 01:26:58,655
Speaker 6: got in the house, if that's any help.

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Speaker 3: Have you heard of a thing called water hammer?

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Speaker 6: Water hammer?

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01:27:04,855 --> 01:27:07,615
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I I think look in the end, it'll

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01:27:07,655 --> 01:27:11,015
Speaker 3: probably require a fix from a plumber. So I would

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01:27:11,015 --> 01:27:14,655
Speaker 3: suggest if you chat with a local plumber and describe

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01:27:14,775 --> 01:27:18,015
Speaker 3: that to them. It seems to have something to do

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01:27:18,175 --> 01:27:21,975
Speaker 3: with air getting into the line, right, and so what

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01:27:22,135 --> 01:27:24,135
Speaker 3: you get is a bit of water and then a

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01:27:24,175 --> 01:27:28,735
Speaker 3: bit of air, and that vibration between those two elements

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01:27:29,095 --> 01:27:32,975
Speaker 3: is what causes some water hammer, and that's what you

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01:27:33,135 --> 01:27:38,295
Speaker 3: might find is happening. So and then I suppose it's

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01:27:38,415 --> 01:27:43,175
Speaker 3: slightly more complicated given that you've then got a water pump.

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01:27:43,295 --> 01:27:45,735
Speaker 3: So obviously there are times when there is pressure in

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01:27:45,815 --> 01:27:47,975
Speaker 3: the line, then there's not pressure in the line, you know,

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01:27:48,095 --> 01:27:50,615
Speaker 3: as opposed to being connected to the mains pressure, where

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01:27:50,815 --> 01:27:54,215
Speaker 3: as long as the valve is open, you've got pressure

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01:27:54,335 --> 01:27:59,095
Speaker 3: in your system all of the time. So I think

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01:27:59,175 --> 01:28:01,855
Speaker 3: it's water hammer and you'll need a plumber to fix it.

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01:28:03,495 --> 01:28:05,295
Speaker 6: Do you think it could be related to the fact

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01:28:05,375 --> 01:28:09,855
Speaker 6: that the toilets in the same bathroom when flushed, there

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01:28:09,975 --> 01:28:12,775
Speaker 6: is a loud noise from the roof Somewhere in the

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01:28:12,895 --> 01:28:16,215
Speaker 6: roof of the house. Further back between the toilets and

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01:28:16,295 --> 01:28:17,095
Speaker 6: the water.

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01:28:17,015 --> 01:28:22,935
Speaker 3: Tank might be a loose pipe. Okay, So you know,

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01:28:23,095 --> 01:28:26,135
Speaker 3: if you look at how plumbers if they're drilling down

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01:28:26,215 --> 01:28:28,655
Speaker 3: through the nogs and so on these days and then

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01:28:28,735 --> 01:28:32,535
Speaker 3: putting their pipework in, they'll often seal or they should

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01:28:32,855 --> 01:28:37,815
Speaker 3: seal around the gap between the edge of the pipe

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01:28:37,855 --> 01:28:40,175
Speaker 3: and the and the hole that they've drilled through the timber,

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01:28:40,655 --> 01:28:44,215
Speaker 3: my precious, precious timber that they like drilling through, and

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01:28:44,815 --> 01:28:47,655
Speaker 3: so typically you do a bead of sealing around there. Now,

1531
01:28:47,695 --> 01:28:50,055
Speaker 3: if you leave that out and there's movement in the pipe,

1532
01:28:50,535 --> 01:28:53,855
Speaker 3: then the pipe bangs against the timber, so that that

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01:28:54,055 --> 01:28:56,935
Speaker 3: can happen as well. But that's if that's in the wall,

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01:28:57,055 --> 01:28:59,495
Speaker 3: that's a slightly more difficult problem to fix. If it's

1535
01:28:59,535 --> 01:29:02,815
Speaker 3: in the ceiling and there's not there's insufficient pipe clips

1536
01:29:02,855 --> 01:29:06,095
Speaker 3: and it's a pipe that's loose and banging, then that's

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01:29:06,135 --> 01:29:08,135
Speaker 3: a relatively straightforward fix.

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01:29:09,655 --> 01:29:11,015
Speaker 6: Well, that sounds very possible.

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01:29:12,895 --> 01:29:15,055
Speaker 3: All the very best to you. I hope it works

1540
01:29:15,055 --> 01:29:21,335
Speaker 3: out well. Take care, John, take care. Oh here we

1541
01:29:21,415 --> 01:29:25,855
Speaker 3: go now. Walking beast foot through some fresh green grass

1542
01:29:26,215 --> 01:29:29,575
Speaker 3: is one of life's great pleasures, but when the soft

1543
01:29:29,775 --> 01:29:33,415
Speaker 3: spring of fresh lawn gets replaced with scratchy, rough weeds,

1544
01:29:33,735 --> 01:29:36,855
Speaker 3: it's time to sort it out. Yates Weed and Feed

1545
01:29:37,095 --> 01:29:40,375
Speaker 3: will deal with a large range of broad leaf weeds,

1546
01:29:40,415 --> 01:29:46,615
Speaker 3: including only hunger weed, daisies, thistles, and dandelions. Because weeds

1547
01:29:46,655 --> 01:29:50,055
Speaker 3: are best killed when they first start growing, Ideally, Weed

1548
01:29:50,215 --> 01:29:54,215
Speaker 3: and Feed is best applied before weeds flour and set seed,

1549
01:29:54,655 --> 01:29:58,495
Speaker 3: as well as effectively eradicating weeds. Yates Weed and Feed

1550
01:29:58,695 --> 01:30:02,975
Speaker 3: also contains a fertilizer that has nitrogen to encourage us

1551
01:30:03,415 --> 01:30:06,815
Speaker 3: lush green leaves and a stronger lawn and iron to

1552
01:30:06,895 --> 01:30:10,255
Speaker 3: promote a rich green color throughout your lawn. The hose

1553
01:30:10,295 --> 01:30:13,415
Speaker 3: on couldn't be easier to use. To be fair, even

1554
01:30:13,455 --> 01:30:15,735
Speaker 3: I can use it. The on off switch means that

1555
01:30:15,815 --> 01:30:17,775
Speaker 3: you can attach it straight to your garden hose and

1556
01:30:17,935 --> 01:30:21,935
Speaker 3: spray your lawn directly. The wetting agent gives improved spray

1557
01:30:22,055 --> 01:30:25,855
Speaker 3: coverage and leaf penetration, making it work quickly and effectively.

1558
01:30:26,215 --> 01:30:29,175
Speaker 3: Once the spray has dried, the grass is safe for

1559
01:30:29,255 --> 01:30:34,175
Speaker 3: pets and children. Fewer weeds, greener grass minimal effort. Take

1560
01:30:34,215 --> 01:30:37,295
Speaker 3: the next step for a barefoot ready lawn and grab

1561
01:30:37,415 --> 01:30:40,535
Speaker 3: your yates, weed and feed at your favorite hardware store

1562
01:30:40,735 --> 01:30:42,135
Speaker 3: or garden retailer today.

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01:30:42,975 --> 01:30:43,415
Speaker 4: Zed be.

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01:30:45,975 --> 01:30:48,055
Speaker 3: Right, Oh, Rud climb Pass is going to join us

1565
01:30:48,175 --> 01:30:52,455
Speaker 3: in just a moment, So if you've got your gardening questions,

1566
01:30:52,495 --> 01:30:54,175
Speaker 3: you'll have to get in ahead of me. But I'm

1567
01:30:54,175 --> 01:30:57,735
Speaker 3: going to jump the queue to be fair and jump

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01:30:57,815 --> 01:31:00,535
Speaker 3: in with the first question at RUT. Are you with us? No,

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01:31:00,735 --> 01:31:03,295
Speaker 3: not yet, Okay, We're going to come back in just

1570
01:31:03,375 --> 01:31:05,935
Speaker 3: a moment if you've got questions for Rudd. Eight hundred

1571
01:31:05,975 --> 01:31:09,015
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. A

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01:31:09,135 --> 01:31:12,375
Speaker 3: couple of last Yeah, people have just on the canvas.

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01:31:13,455 --> 01:31:17,495
Speaker 3: People have actually suggested that the wit and forget might

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01:31:18,615 --> 01:31:24,855
Speaker 3: work as well. There's a product this is again for

1575
01:31:24,975 --> 01:31:30,535
Speaker 3: the canvas. Tenth. There's a product benzo zyclamine chloride active

1576
01:31:30,695 --> 01:31:35,135
Speaker 3: ingredient avoid the likes of exit mold, which I have

1577
01:31:35,335 --> 01:31:38,615
Speaker 3: used in the bathroom because it's got sodium hyperchloride which

1578
01:31:38,615 --> 01:31:41,255
Speaker 3: will rot the canvas. So there are weed oh, there

1579
01:31:41,335 --> 01:31:45,775
Speaker 3: are mold sprays that will work with the canvas as

1580
01:31:45,815 --> 01:31:49,095
Speaker 3: opposed to others that are more designed perhaps for hard surfaces.

1581
01:31:50,455 --> 01:31:53,935
Speaker 3: And we may mention two of nails rusting a little

1582
01:31:53,935 --> 01:31:56,855
Speaker 3: bit earlier on in the program, and I commented on

1583
01:31:56,935 --> 01:31:59,695
Speaker 3: the fact that in some cases some stainless steel brads

1584
01:31:59,735 --> 01:32:02,255
Speaker 3: that I'd been using had also seem to rust, and

1585
01:32:02,295 --> 01:32:04,295
Speaker 3: someone did point out, you know, there is a difference

1586
01:32:04,335 --> 01:32:08,415
Speaker 3: between marine grade stainless steel and regular They talked about

1587
01:32:08,455 --> 01:32:13,375
Speaker 3: their dads building boats and using marine grade three one

1588
01:32:13,535 --> 01:32:18,135
Speaker 3: six stainless. Certainly something to be aware of, and I'm

1589
01:32:18,295 --> 01:32:21,535
Speaker 3: very conscious of the fact that the brads, I mean,

1590
01:32:21,615 --> 01:32:23,695
Speaker 3: stainless brad should last a little bit longer than that,

1591
01:32:23,855 --> 01:32:26,655
Speaker 3: but it's not common, but it did happen in a

1592
01:32:26,735 --> 01:32:28,935
Speaker 3: few areas. And then we've had a lot of discussion

1593
01:32:29,095 --> 01:32:33,095
Speaker 3: around actually a lot of talk about bathrooms, talk about bathrooms.

1594
01:32:33,335 --> 01:32:36,135
Speaker 3: I noticed the other day I was cruising home, and

1595
01:32:37,535 --> 01:32:39,895
Speaker 3: obviously some neighbors are doing some renovations. There was a

1596
01:32:40,015 --> 01:32:44,215
Speaker 3: Chester's Bathroom store truck that had arrived to drop off

1597
01:32:44,295 --> 01:32:46,775
Speaker 3: some stuff, and it got me thinking that, I know,

1598
01:32:47,415 --> 01:32:51,335
Speaker 3: typically Chesters sort of have a sense that it's very

1599
01:32:51,415 --> 01:32:56,415
Speaker 3: much a trade focused store, but they are open for

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01:32:56,535 --> 01:32:59,975
Speaker 3: retail as well. Last night I went along and celebrated

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01:33:00,935 --> 01:33:04,335
Speaker 3: with the team from clear Water Construction forty years in business,

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01:33:05,615 --> 01:33:08,735
Speaker 3: and actually I was there after having been part of

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01:33:08,815 --> 01:33:12,975
Speaker 3: their celebrations for DNH Steel fifty years. Interestingly, and Old

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01:33:13,055 --> 01:33:16,935
Speaker 3: Chester's fifty years in business as well, So that's Chess's

1605
01:33:16,975 --> 01:33:20,495
Speaker 3: plumbing fifty years. That says something about the quality of

1606
01:33:20,535 --> 01:33:23,215
Speaker 3: the company if they've been around that long. So good

1607
01:33:23,255 --> 01:33:25,895
Speaker 3: on you, Chestice. Right, you're with news Talks, he'd be,

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01:33:26,015 --> 01:33:29,455
Speaker 3: we're going to get rud lined up. I think yes

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01:33:29,535 --> 01:33:31,855
Speaker 3: we can do that. Let's let's get Rid on the line.

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01:33:32,375 --> 01:33:34,655
Speaker 3: We'll talk all things gardening, but I'm going to jump

1611
01:33:34,695 --> 01:33:39,135
Speaker 3: in with the first question about underfloor insulation and whether

1612
01:33:39,255 --> 01:33:41,775
Speaker 3: or not borer finds it attractive to live there. So

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01:33:41,775 --> 01:33:45,255
Speaker 3: we're back in just a moment with Red Climb Past for.

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01:33:45,375 --> 01:33:48,455
Speaker 1: More from the resident builder with Peter Wolfcamp. Listen live

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01:33:48,575 --> 01:33:50,975
Speaker 1: to news Talks he'd be on Sunday Mornings from Sex,

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Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.