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Speaker 1: Digging through the spin to find the real story storing.

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Speaker 1: It's Heather dupericy Eland Drive with One New Zealand. Let's

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Speaker 1: get connected news dogs.

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Speaker 2: That'd be afternoon, Welcome to the show coming up today.

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Speaker 2: Just found out the small fortune it's costing us to

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Speaker 2: get out of that fairy deal. We'll have a chat

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Speaker 2: to Winston Peter's about it. Food prices are up five

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Speaker 2: percent in the year. Brad Olson on that, and also Mattterrell,

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Speaker 2: former chief of staff to Marco Rubio, on that. Pootin

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Speaker 2: Trump meeting tomorrow morning.

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Speaker 1: Heather Dupericy Ellen.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what kind of psychosis has taken hold

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Speaker 2: of the bureaucrats at Health New Zealand, but you want

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Speaker 2: to see these rules that they've put out about the

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Speaker 2: food and what food is allowed and what food is

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Speaker 2: banned from their hospital cafeterias. It is ridiculously, ridiculously prescriptive.

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Speaker 2: So what they've done is they put out because they

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Speaker 2: like wasting their time on nonsense, They've put out their

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Speaker 2: new National Food and Drink Policy and it's divided food

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Speaker 2: into three categories. You've got the green category that's the

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Speaker 2: good stuff. You got the category that's a bit naughty

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Speaker 2: but okay, and you got the red category and that's banned.

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Speaker 2: So what you are allowed to eat when you go

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Speaker 2: to the hospital cafeteria is chicken, but without the skin on,

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Speaker 2: so that you're basically left with the saddest, driest chicken

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Speaker 2: breast known to man. Yum, enjoy yourself. Beef and pork

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Speaker 2: that is allowed, but the staff have to trim the

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Speaker 2: which completely ignores the modern research that shows actually meat

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Speaker 2: fat is not that bad for you, and maybe you

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Speaker 2: need it. You are allowed to have a kish, but

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Speaker 2: it must have no crust. You are allowed a vegetable

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Speaker 2: slice or an egg cup, but they must contain vegetables.

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Speaker 2: A pie is okay, but only if it's smaller than

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Speaker 2: two hundred and ten grams, and only if it has

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Speaker 2: a potato top. What I've just described to you is

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Speaker 2: basically the green category. That is the only food that

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Speaker 2: they are allowed to display to us. Everything else must

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Speaker 2: not be within your eye sight because God only knows

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Speaker 2: what's going to happen if you clap your eyes on

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Speaker 2: a muffin. The green category must make up fifty five

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Speaker 2: percent of the food at the hospital cafeteria Amber foods.

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Speaker 2: Things you're allowed to eat but not allowed to see

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Speaker 2: include things like muffins and loaves and slices. They must

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Speaker 2: all be under one hundred and twenty grams. Savory pies

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Speaker 2: must be under two hundred and ten grams. Not on display,

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Speaker 2: nacho chips, white bread, dough boys, wraps, and pizza bases.

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Speaker 2: They are allowed to have icing on the sweeter things,

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Speaker 2: but they're only allowed to have very little bit of icing,

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Speaker 2: not a lot. Red food. This is food that is

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Speaker 2: recommended to be banned includes marshmallows in your hot, chocolate,

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Speaker 2: thick icing, chocolate covered food, food containing confectionery like Rocky Roads,

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Speaker 2: lolly slices, pebbles, worn tons. Oh that's not actually got

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Speaker 2: lollies in it though, but it also includes wan tons,

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Speaker 2: money bags, spring rolls, commercially flavored rice, are pasta, noodles,

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Speaker 2: and deep fried items. Now, I don't know what this

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Speaker 2: that they've either lost the plot or whoever made these

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Speaker 2: of a communist dictatorship, where adults must have every aspect

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Speaker 2: of their lives controlled for them. The fact that we

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Speaker 2: or should not eat is clearly not been factored into

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Speaker 2: this equation. Some of us actually enjoy to have the

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Speaker 2: fat on the meat very much. Some of us like

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Speaker 2: to eat the skin on our chicken hospitals, Do I

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Speaker 2: need to remind you? Are grim going to the cafeteria

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Speaker 2: to buy a treat for yourself, or perhaps your dying

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Speaker 2: of joy. Now, the thing is health New Zealand can

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Speaker 2: go ahead with this if they want to. It's their

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Speaker 2: cafeteria after all. Problem with their little dictatorship plan is

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Speaker 2: they only controlled their tiny little communist state. They do

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Speaker 2: not control the gigantic capitalists market outside of it. So

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Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but as an adult who

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Speaker 1: Do for c Ellen?

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Speaker 3: They suck?

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Speaker 2: Don't they a raally suck? Anyway? They're with us after

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Speaker 2: how hard and fast they are on these god awful rules.

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Speaker 2: Nine two nine two is the text number. Now, the

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Speaker 2: government is making disruptive demonstrations outside private homes and offence.

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Speaker 4: Now, Hey Paul, Hello, how are you, Heather?

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Speaker 2: I'm well? Thank you? Which MPs have been targeted?

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Speaker 1: Im?

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Speaker 4: Sorry, I'm still thinking about the chicken with the skin

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Speaker 4: on you?

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Speaker 2: You eat the skin on your chicken? Well, yes I

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Speaker 2: mean you're trim, aren't you.

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Speaker 4: Well, but that's anyway, that's that's all the anxiety that

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Speaker 2: All right? So tell me which in peace have been targeted.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm not going to go into that. Some have.

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Speaker 2: Are you wanting to keep it?

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Speaker 2: Are you wanting to keep it secret to avoid encouraging

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Speaker 4: Well, yes, it's not a great secret or anything like that.

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Speaker 4: It's not, but it's just the way I don't think

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Speaker 4: You know, should be able to not have demonstrations outside

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Speaker 4: And at the moment, the law doesn't really enable the

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Speaker 2: Paul, my understanding Tell me if I'm wrong, But my

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Speaker 4: Is that right, Well, yes, there has been some of that,

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Speaker 4: and we're not about shutting that down willy nilly. But

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Speaker 2: Judges will enforce this though, because I mean, we've had

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Speaker 2: You've had all kinds of stuff that goes on and

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Speaker 4: Well, of course, the judiciary is independent and we won't

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Speaker 4: be sort of this. What we're dealing with here is

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Speaker 4: things that are targeted at individuals and their personal residence.

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Speaker 4: There are broader things. Obviously we have a general right

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Speaker 4: But that's not the particular focus of this change.

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Speaker 2: Think your problem is going to be the judges. Now

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Speaker 2: have you seen what the Supreme Court has just done

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Speaker 4: Yes, I have seen that, and I'll be asking for

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Speaker 4: some advice but of course it won't be changing the

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Speaker 2: Have you fact your legislation on MACHA that you've already planned.

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Speaker 2: Have you factored this in?

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Speaker 4: Not yet, but I'll get some advice as to whether

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Speaker 4: it has any impact on it or not. Yeah, but

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Speaker 4: it won't change the basic dynamic, which is all about

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Speaker 4: trying to get that balance right between the interests that

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Speaker 2: To the possibility that you actually do address this in

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Speaker 2: your updated legislation.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'll get some advice on the details.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Paul, thank you very much. Enjoy your chicken skin.

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Speaker 2: That's Paul Goldsmith, Justice Minister. So what's happened is the

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Speaker 2: to now it's just been the foreshore and seabed. This

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Speaker 2: Hey, we are about I want to say my maths

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Speaker 2: is really crap, but maybe fifteen hours and ten minutes,

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Speaker 2: fifteen hours and twelve minutes away from the Putin Trump meeting,

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Speaker 2: So we're going to go to the US shortly and

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Speaker 2: get abreast of that. It's nineteen past four and with

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Speaker 2: the weekend sport host. High Piney. Hello, Heather, now Piney,

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Speaker 2: are you going two out of two for US Argentina

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Speaker 2: or half and half?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: No, no, Argentina two out of two.

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Speaker 8: I think that's really yeah. I think if there's any series,

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Speaker 8: little mini series within the Rugby Championship that's going to

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Speaker 8: be splits, the South Africa one when they come here.

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Speaker 8: I think most New Zealand fans expect US to win both.

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Speaker 8: Having said that, Argentina are on a bad side. You

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Speaker 8: know they've beaten US three in the last ten games.

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Speaker 8: Those two of those were here in New Zealand, one

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Speaker 8: in Australia. They've never beaten us at home, which is

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Speaker 8: a little bit odd stat.

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Speaker 2: Didn't that be justin Wellington?

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Speaker 3: No, last year last year?

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Speaker 2: Argie's Yeah, they bet us in Wellington last year. So

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Speaker 2: what do you call home?

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Speaker 8: You just said I've never beaten us at their home? Sorry,

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Speaker 4: The job done.

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Speaker 2: It brings you up to Auckland.

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Speaker 2: That'd be Heather. When you talk to House New Zealand,

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Speaker 2: who have to stand there, You've sliced your you've got

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Speaker 11: Know if that was your top, just slice of meat,

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Speaker 2: Kate Heffernan, she's going off to Australia. Tiana Mitsuro, she's

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Speaker 2: It's for the for the better, for the silver Ferns.

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Speaker 14: They'd be w.

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Speaker 15: Very well.

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Kursley standing by out of the US. Now we

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Speaker 2: The Israeli Finance Minister has revealed plans to build a

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Speaker 2: Protesters are already gathering in Alaska, where Trump and Putin

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Speaker 1: I gies international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace

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Speaker 10: Known to everybody across New Zealand.

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Speaker 10: What is the exchange going to be like between them

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Speaker 10: or the cameras are there? The handshake takes place, This

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Speaker 10: is just an extraordinary moment in history because here you have,

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Speaker 10: for the first time in a decade or so, a

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Speaker 10: Russian president on a me American soil. It is quite

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Speaker 10: simply extraordinary, given too that the ICC warrants that are

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Speaker 10: out against Vladimir Putin means he can't go to other

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Speaker 10: various countries. The United States doesn't recognize the ICC, so

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Speaker 10: they've allowed him to hear and they're welcoming him to Alaska,

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Speaker 10: which I mean, if you have a look at the

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Speaker 10: mainland between Alaska and Russia, you can see the geography

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Speaker 10: reason as to why they've picked this venue at some

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Speaker 10: eighty five kilometers from the edge of Alaska to the

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Speaker 10: edge of Russia. But it is going to be critical

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Speaker 10: this meeting tomorrow, but it's hard to see what conclusions

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Speaker 10: can come out of it unless Donald Trump can get

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Speaker 10: something specific from Vladimir Putin that he can very quickly

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Speaker 10: get to voladimirs Alenski, in which case this talk of

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Speaker 10: the second summit, well, that may take place, and that

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Speaker 10: is going to be the critical juncture because that is

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Speaker 10: when Ukraine is going to have a seat at the table.

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Speaker 10: And that is when and imagine the optics of that

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Speaker 10: Voladimire's Alenski, Vladimir Putin, Donald Trump all in the same room,

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Speaker 10: staring at each other from across a table or from

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Speaker 10: across warrior. They may be seated or standing. It is

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Speaker 10: just going to be quite simply extraordinary because there's plenty

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Speaker 10: at stake in this, for Ukraine, for Europe, for the

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Speaker 10: United States, and for much of the world too, because

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Speaker 10: you can imagine China is going to be watching the

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Speaker 10: outcome of this very very closely with its plans to

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Speaker 10: want to retake complete control.

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Speaker 2: So one, yeah, absolutely, that's a very fair point, do

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Speaker 2: you think. I mean, we've laughed about the fact that

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump wants the Nobel Peace Prize, but if he

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Speaker 2: manages to broke receease fire deal here, does he actually

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Speaker 2: deserve it.

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Speaker 10: If he can end the Russia Ukraine War, then I

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Speaker 10: think he would very much firmly have a footing on

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Speaker 10: a nomination at least anyway and seriously been considered by

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Speaker 10: the Nobel Peace Prize Committee. He says he is a

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Speaker 10: peace maker, a deal maker. He says that he has

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Speaker 10: ended six conflicts since his presidency began, but ultimately there

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Speaker 10: are two he had his heart set on two. He

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Speaker 10: had his mindset on Russia, Ukraine he said he could

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Speaker 10: solve in twenty four hours, and the conflict between israelanhi Mus.

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Speaker 10: Neither of those have been as of yet. So those

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Speaker 10: are clearly conflicts that he wants to look into. This

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Speaker 10: is why you've seen him look at issues between other

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Speaker 10: nations in Africa, between India and Pakistan. He wants to

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Speaker 10: be seen as a peacemaker president. This is clearly the

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Speaker 10: legacy that he wants to give. The question, really, I

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Speaker 10: think in the short term is going to be can

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Speaker 10: this conflict somehow find a way to an end, because

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Speaker 10: ultimately Vladimir Putin is also going to try and sweep

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Speaker 10: talk Donald Trump. He's going to try and get something

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Speaker 10: out of him. He knows that he's got to up

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Speaker 10: his own game against the American president, who's expressed his

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Speaker 10: own frustrations with him. So there's going to be a

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Speaker 10: have to be a little bit of give and take.

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Speaker 10: The question is, though, what is Donald Trump prepared to

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Speaker 10: give and what is he going to take to Ukraine

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Speaker 10: and to Europe as the outcome of whatever this summit

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Speaker 10: comes to tomorrow? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Hey, very quickly?

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Speaker 18: Were you?

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Speaker 2: Were you absolutely thrilled with what Tata announced?

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Speaker 10: Tato's announcement was astonishing, wasn't it that? I think we've

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Speaker 10: got to tracks on the album. We've got October three

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Speaker 10: market in your calendar's swifties you already have, and then

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Speaker 10: imagine yourselves another tour, maybe maybe an era's documentary. Can

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Speaker 10: we see that in the works?

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Speaker 2: Who knew? Who knew that you went over there and

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Speaker 2: you've come back. Yeah, you're going to come back a

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Speaker 2: Tata fan. Thank you so much, Jonathan, appreciate it. Jonathan Keursley,

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Speaker 2: US correspondent, seventeen away from five Heller do for see Allen, Hey,

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Speaker 2: I didn't know this, did you know that two we

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Speaker 2: could mimic the human voice? As in, like you know

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Speaker 2: two we that well? I mean sands to reason they

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Speaker 2: mimicked doorbells, don't they? But the beautiful tooe that wake

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Speaker 2: you up at four am in the summer with that

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Speaker 2: that song, they can actually mimic human voices because there's

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Speaker 2: one that lives at the Kiwi House and Altadahunga, And

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Speaker 2: this is him trying out a couple of phrases.

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Speaker 19: Hey buddy, Hey, did you hear that?

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Speaker 2: So he made a little noise and then he said yeah, boy,

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Speaker 2: and then said, hey buddy, have a listen, Hey buddy,

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Speaker 2: isn't that amazing? I think that I'm not even I'm

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Speaker 2: not even taking the mickey. I think that is incredible.

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Speaker 2: Sixteen away from five.

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Speaker 1: Politics with Centric Credit, check your customers and get payments thirtaty.

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Speaker 2: Listen, if you want to get to Parliament, I've got

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Speaker 2: a way for you to get in. So just hang

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Speaker 2: on and I'll tell you about that shortly. It's fourteen

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Speaker 2: away from five. Barry Sober, Senior Political Correspondence with US Barry.

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Speaker 3: Yes, he you've just convinced me that it was the

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Speaker 3: bird that you don't believe that was the bird?

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Speaker 9: I didn't know, but I do now because you've insisted

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Speaker 9: that it was.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing, isn't it isn't I'm at risk of going

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Speaker 2: on a bit hard about this, but I do think

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Speaker 2: that is not AI. Well, God only knows everything can

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Speaker 2: be AI. Now, does it sound to you as if

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Speaker 2: we're going to change the rules so foreigners can buy

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Speaker 2: houses here?

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Speaker 9: I think almost inevitably. Nikola Willis sat down with interviewers

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Speaker 9: Carol Massar and Tim Stanovic from Bloomberg Business Weekly in

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Speaker 9: New York today and she talked about the fifteen percent tariffs,

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Speaker 9: saying that they were not expecting to be able to

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Speaker 9: bring them down with the Trump administration. She was asked though,

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Speaker 9: about foreign investors being allowed to buy homes here and

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Speaker 9: probably told us what we really already know that help

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Speaker 9: is on the way, that is excluded.

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Speaker 6: Our government, which is comprised of three parties, has been

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Speaker 6: in discussion about loosening those regulations so that those who

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Speaker 6: get an active investor visa may in future be able

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Speaker 6: to purchase a proper is the future?

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Speaker 20: What are we talking about for a timeline here?

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Speaker 6: Those talks have been underway, and you would expect that

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Speaker 6: a decision would be made by our cabinet in the

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Speaker 6: coming weeks.

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Speaker 3: In the coming weeks, So Carol, get ready.

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Speaker 6: Your little slice of paradise. We're surrounded by a big,

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Speaker 6: fat option. I know, we have huge amounts of land.

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Speaker 6: It's beautiful. I think the world should be looking at

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Speaker 6: New Zealand. We have great prospects.

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Speaker 9: So the female interviewer there, she is a keen sailor.

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Speaker 9: But I think essentially, given what she said, Winston Peters

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Speaker 9: has agreed that foreigners should be able to buy houses there,

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Speaker 9: and I think he should agree to it, because if

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Speaker 9: you've got a lot of money coming to New Zealand

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Speaker 9: and you're going to invest it in this country, why

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Speaker 9: shouldn't you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course you want to buy a house. Okay,

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Speaker 2: we'll talk to him when he's with us after five

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Speaker 2: o'clock about that. What do you make of the Supreme

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Speaker 2: Court ruling on the river beds?

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Speaker 9: I found it interesting, Paul Goldsmith he was not really

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Speaker 9: committing to, in fact, challenging this ruling as well as

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Speaker 9: they did with the other Supreme Court ruling. I think

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Speaker 9: it's inevitable these river beds. In fact, they've got to

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Speaker 9: be a certain with able to take craft boats on

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Speaker 9: the river and then they fall in the classification of

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Speaker 9: under the marine and coastal is navigable. Yeah, yes they

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Speaker 9: do so. Yeah, it's a case, isn't it though? Of

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Speaker 9: the Supreme Court knowing full well, I would imagine when

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Speaker 9: they made that decision that the government would no doubt

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Speaker 9: turner as they did in the earlier decision and overturn it.

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Speaker 9: And just you know, it raises this whole prospect of

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Speaker 9: the independence of the judiciary from Parliament. Parliament is the

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Speaker 9: ultimate court in the land, so they have the right

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Speaker 9: to make the legislation and make it the way they

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Speaker 9: want it to be interpreted.

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Speaker 3: Yes, the courts though not.

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Speaker 2: Well, both of them are acting as they should interpreted

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Speaker 2: and Parliament's going no, you're wrongly interpreted. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: change it. I mean, you can still accuse the Supreme

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Speaker 2: Court of being activists, though, can't you. Well, you could

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Speaker 2: do yes, yes, Now, I don't quite know how to

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Speaker 2: raise this with you. I'm afraid of your tds. But

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Speaker 2: do you want to talk about Trump, the Trump arrangement syndrome?

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Speaker 9: Do you know a bit of refrain from talking about Trump?

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Speaker 2: You will because you've related on the Saving Barry and

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Speaker 2: realized that publicly on air.

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Speaker 9: That I have the Trumped arrangement syndrome, and I think

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Speaker 9: any sane human being will have the same thing. Nevertheless,

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Speaker 9: here we go to it. Yes, going into the meeting, tomorrow.

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Speaker 9: This is a massaging exercise for Donald Trump. I think

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Speaker 9: Putin is playing his old game with Trump, and Trump

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Speaker 9: will come away from it not looking that good because

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Speaker 9: Putin is not a person to be trifled with, as

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Speaker 9: Trump has found out in the past. And how can

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Speaker 9: you make agreements with a country that's not even present

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Speaker 9: at the about a country that's not even present at

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Speaker 9: the table? Do you know there's a certain irony, Heather

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Speaker 9: in this meeting taking place in Alaska because Alaska used

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Speaker 9: to belong to Russia. It was Russian. Yes, indeed they are,

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Speaker 9: and here they are now talking about, no doubt the

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Speaker 9: Ukraine surrendering part of its land. Well, Putin, I think

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Speaker 9: will feel rather comfortable and anchorages.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so.

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Speaker 15: Do you so?

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Speaker 2: Do you accept that this is the meeting ahead, this

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Speaker 2: will be the first of a series of meetings if

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Speaker 2: there is a ceasefire deal? Do you accept that, well,

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Speaker 2: Trump strike a deal at this meeting?

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Speaker 9: Trump for Trump saying there's a twenty five percent chance

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Speaker 9: that it won't succeed. That is massive for Trump.

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Speaker 2: I want you to answer my question. Do you accept

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Speaker 2: that this will be the first in a series of meetings?

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Speaker 2: If there is a cease fire deal.

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Speaker 9: Oh indeed there will be.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and are you telling me that you will? You

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Speaker 2: do not believe this will end in a cease fire deal.

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Speaker 9: I have my absolute doubts about condisions. Zelenski. You know

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Speaker 9: he's not about to throw down. He's going to have

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Speaker 9: to throw down them or raise the.

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Speaker 2: World's going to happen. He's going to have to give

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Speaker 2: up some land. So go and then put your money

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Speaker 2: on the fact that there's no cease fire deal. No,

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Speaker 2: I don't think that, Okay, Bodlagen, Yeah, okay, great, take

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Speaker 2: you up on it. I sat, I reckon there will

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Speaker 2: be a cease fire deal, and it's on. Barry Soap

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Speaker 2: is going to be back with us. Quarter past Sex

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Speaker 2: and rap. The political week then eight away from five.

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 4: The constraints around information sharing is hindering government agencies and

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Speaker 4: responding to organized crime.

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Speaker 2: Where have we heard that before?

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Speaker 20: Steve Simon is the chair of the ministerially Advisory Group.

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Speaker 5: I've been a prosecutor for twenty years and I think

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Speaker 5: it's been the vane of our existence that entire time.

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Speaker 5: If anything, I think it's probably got worse as comin

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Speaker 5: agencies have become more siloed and have become more risk adverseed.

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Speaker 5: I think it starts with culture most I think your

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Speaker 5: point of it's been this consistent problem over the years.

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Speaker 5: What that's driving is this culture of if I don't share,

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Speaker 5: I won't get in trouble. If I do share, I

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Speaker 5: might get in trouble. So you can see which option

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Speaker 5: people are usually choosing.

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Speaker 4: Back Monday, from six am, the Mic Asking Breakfast with

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Speaker 4: Bayley's Real Estate News talk.

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Speaker 2: ZB Heather, how can Berri stay married to you the

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Speaker 2: way you treat him? We all wonder this, we all

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Speaker 2: do wander this. Actually you're not alone. Five away from

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Speaker 2: five Now listen, I've got an update for you about

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Speaker 2: the woman in iced attention over in Texas at the minute.

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Speaker 2: Good news, she and her son are going to be

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Speaker 2: released before the end of the week. Now it's supposed

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Speaker 2: to be. She was thinking it would be Friday there time,

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Speaker 2: so presumably Saturday our time, and she was so confident

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Speaker 2: she'd already booked flights and so on. So this appears

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Speaker 2: to be about to happen. Going to take some time

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Speaker 2: to reacclimatize her son to normal life because they have

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Speaker 2: been locked up for three weeks. So that's wonderful news. Now,

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Speaker 2: if you've ever looked at Parliament you thought, geez, that

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Speaker 2: looks like a bit of me. Can't wait to get

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Speaker 2: in there. You've got a very very easy way to

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Speaker 2: get in now. The Opportunities Party has done something very

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Speaker 2: unusual here. They're looking for a new leader and they've

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Speaker 2: decided that the best way to scout for a new

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Speaker 2: leader is to put it up like a job at

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Speaker 2: on Seek. So they have, they say, feeling like every

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Speaker 2: day kiwis get a raw deal from politics as usual.

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Speaker 2: Whether a PhD holder, a builder or a nurse. They're

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Speaker 2: looking for someone who can quote handle the heat without melting.

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Speaker 2: The prospective leader will be open minded, considering different opinions

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Speaker 2: without taking the heat. Personally. They say very clearly, we're

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Speaker 2: not fussy about your PhD, about your CV, about your CV.

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Speaker 2: If you've got a PhD in economics, tremendous, self employed builder,

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Speaker 2: fantastic nurse, magnificent, what matters is your ability to lead

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Speaker 2: us towards a better future. Live our values, which is fearless, honesty, equitable, opportunity,

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Speaker 2: ingenuity and results. That medal matter and so on and

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Speaker 2: so on. It's an interesting idea to do it on

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Speaker 2: to do it on seek. I don't know what it

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Speaker 2: says about the soul of the party, do you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean?

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Speaker 14: Like?

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Speaker 2: I feel like people who get into for example, the

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Speaker 2: Labor or the Green Party generally believe the values and

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Speaker 2: live the values, and you know, get in there and

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Speaker 2: do the thing. This does feel a little bit like man,

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Speaker 2: just come on and treat it like any other professional job.

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Speaker 2: Also interestingly, the campaign manager is Ian Lease Galloway. Remember him?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, last from the past anyway. Previous leaders are

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Speaker 2: Gareth Morgan, who likes to kill Katz or at least

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Speaker 2: advocate for that, and Raf Mangi. The highest the Opportunities

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Speaker 2: Party has ever gotten the polls is two point four percent,

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Speaker 2: So chances are you can improve quite a lot on that.

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Speaker 2: I would say Winston Peters is going to be with

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Speaker 2: us next on the old wasted money on the Fairies

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Speaker 2: news talks. It'd be.

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Speaker 4: As a new person over again.

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Speaker 1: Questions, answers, facts, analysis, the drive show you trust for

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Speaker 1: the full picture. Heather d Person Drive with One New

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Speaker 1: Zealand Let's get connected news talks.

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Speaker 21: At be.

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Speaker 2: Afternoon. The cost of living crisis appears to continue to

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Speaker 2: scare kiwi's off. New data shows food prices are up

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Speaker 2: five percent in the year to July. Net migration for

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Speaker 2: the month is down eighty percent on last year. We're

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Speaker 2: getting very close to a new record high of kiwis

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Speaker 2: leaving the country. Brad Olson is a principal economist at

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Speaker 2: Informetrics and with us. Now, Hey, Brad, good evening. What's

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Speaker 2: driving the food price up?

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Speaker 19: Well, we're seeing that the same dairy costs that we've

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Speaker 19: been focused on the last couple of months are still

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Speaker 19: a key part of that discussion. Now that's a little

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Speaker 19: bit of an annual comparison thing. Of course, we've talked

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Speaker 19: a lot about butter in recent times. Interestingly, in July

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Speaker 19: the price of butter, the cheapest butter that the stats

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Speaker 19: in Z investigators could find, was broadly the same as

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Speaker 19: it was last month, so a lot of the big

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Speaker 19: increases having come through not seeing quite as much further.

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Speaker 19: But you're seeing other costs likes of milk now that's

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Speaker 19: up considerably of course as well, but also the likes

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Speaker 19: of meats. You're looking at steak and mints that are

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Speaker 19: both seeing higher prices in July, and that's consistent with

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Speaker 19: what we saw in the grocery supply cost index when

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Speaker 19: we looked at input costs. Is that those higher meat

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Speaker 19: prices that we're getting overseas good news for exporterers, of course,

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Speaker 19: means that some of our domestic prices are heading up

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Speaker 19: to So you're right now seeing those food price inflation

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Speaker 19: figures up to five percent. Probably won't change the dial

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Speaker 19: when it comes to the Reserve Bank meeting next week,

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Speaker 19: but of course very uncomfortable for households who are having

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Speaker 19: to pay more for the essentials.

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Speaker 2: I mean, common sense would dictate this as part of

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Speaker 2: the reason why kiwis are leaving, right, I.

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Speaker 19: Think that partly, But I think we've also got to

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Speaker 19: be that some of these increases you're seeing overseas as well,

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Speaker 19: there's still high prices for a number of products. I mean,

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Speaker 19: you look at some areas like the UK where their

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Speaker 19: inflation has started to reaccelerate like ours. So it's part

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Speaker 19: of the story. I think though. What's interesting looking at

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Speaker 19: those migration numbers that you've highlighted is that you've still

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Speaker 19: got this sort of real divide. Yes, there's a very

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Speaker 19: large number of New Zealanders that are leaving, but there's

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Speaker 19: also quite a large number of people that have still

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Speaker 19: come into the country, at least relative to sort of

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Speaker 19: more normal times before the pandemic. So we do have

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Speaker 19: I think, you know, it's not a one way door

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Speaker 19: policy at the moment, Heather, it's very much sort of

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Speaker 19: two doors, one exit, one enter, but quite a lot

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Speaker 19: of people going through both.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey, Brad, thank you as always, Brad Olson. Infametric's

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Speaker 2: principle economist.

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Speaker 1: Heather Duplicy Allen, we finally learned.

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Speaker 2: How much it's cost the country to break the fairy

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Speaker 2: contract with Hyunde over in South Korea. It's one hundred

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Speaker 2: and forty four million dollars just in the break feed.

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Speaker 2: That is on top of the deposit we've already paid.

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Speaker 2: It's also on top of the cost of starting the

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Speaker 2: infrastructure building and then winding it down again. Canceled project

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Speaker 2: in total has cost tax payers six hundred and seventy

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Speaker 2: one million dollars. Winston Peters is the Minister for Rellum

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Speaker 2: with us.

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Speaker 21: Hey, Winston, well, good morning, on good afternoon or good evening.

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Speaker 21: Because those facts you just gave substantially incorrect.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, please correct well, I'm.

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Speaker 21: Correcting you, because there's one forty four million. There were

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Speaker 21: other costs which were already paid. There were costs that

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Speaker 21: were paid that were to do was associated projects. Many

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Speaker 21: of those utilities we were able to save, and so

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Speaker 21: it is massively less than the three hundred million that

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Speaker 21: are in z reported there I say it or typically so,

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Speaker 21: and they pace it was going to be one point

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Speaker 21: one six billion.

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Speaker 2: Make sure that we've got the facts here, right, Winston.

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Speaker 21: So we've got to get the facts. You I'm thinking

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Speaker 21: the fact that you was on the ministeret.

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Speaker 2: Well, you did the facts and then you started to

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Speaker 2: do the other stuff. So, first of all, one hundred

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Speaker 2: and forty four.

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Speaker 21: Millions to the facts one humor stat of the fact

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Speaker 21: that I'm greeting you.

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Speaker 2: One hundred and forty four million dollars in the break

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Speaker 2: fee plus the deposit takes the total spin to the

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Speaker 2: shipyard to two hundred and twenty two million dollars plus.

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Speaker 2: Then you've got the four hundred and forty nine million

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Speaker 2: dollars on land side infrastructure, project management and wind down costs. Correct.

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Speaker 21: No, not correct, because some of those projects we have saved,

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Speaker 21: For example, the departure that the building in Marlborough is

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Speaker 21: going to be saved. We're not going to pull it

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Speaker 21: down like the project at forecast. So they were going

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Speaker 21: to build a short term departure lounge and pull it down.

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Speaker 21: We decided to save it. There are counters other parts

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Speaker 21: like that which dissect out to be savings not expenditure

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Speaker 21: in the way that the layer party is so massively mispreder.

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Speaker 2: So what is the total then, If it's not six

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Speaker 2: hundred and seventy one.

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Speaker 21: Million, well it's one hundred and forty four million if

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Speaker 21: you take the seventy eight that's already paid out.

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Speaker 7: So it was.

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Speaker 21: It was originally provisioned to cost us three hundred million,

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Speaker 21: and we've come and way, way way shorter than that

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Speaker 21: and saved a lot of them.

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Speaker 2: Old on three billion dollars is what we were going

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Speaker 2: to spend, and we spend one hundred and forty four

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Speaker 2: million dollars. But we still spend one hundred and forty

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Speaker 2: four million dollars in a break few, which gets us nothing.

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Speaker 2: So we've spent two hundred and twenty two million dollars

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Speaker 2: with Hyunda, and what have we got for it, Winston?

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Speaker 21: What we've got here?

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Speaker 2: Nothing?

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Speaker 21: No, no, no, no, no, I can see why you

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Speaker 21: guys are in trouble. What we're what they've got from?

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Speaker 18: What is this?

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Speaker 21: They were told to go out, just go very slowly

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Speaker 21: with you when I was the minister. They were told

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Speaker 21: to go and go and buy two fairies for four

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Speaker 21: hundred and one million dollars. I come back to find

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Speaker 21: that they've massively blown that out and bought masses. We

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Speaker 21: all know the sp' got that point you've got. They

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Speaker 21: don't know the story. They went out and brought two

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Speaker 21: much bigger fairies, which would require them to change the

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Speaker 21: whole infrastructure, which was in a blow, as the Treasury said,

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Speaker 21: the costs out to about four billion dollars, a bit

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Speaker 21: like what happened in Tasmania right a year right now.

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Speaker 21: But they've got the fairies and they've got no infrastructure

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Speaker 21: because they can't fit fit them. So what to do

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Speaker 21: with the fairies? The same predicament we'd have had, but

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Speaker 21: only we got there.

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Speaker 2: Fer I knew that story that was boring. I already

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Speaker 2: knew all of that. I just what I'm trying to

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Speaker 2: point out is that you have spent two hundred because

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Speaker 2: people canceled it. We spent two hundred and twenty two

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Speaker 2: million dollars and we ain't got anything anyway.

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Speaker 21: You're you should be saying, you should be out there

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Speaker 21: saying Whinston, Thank heavens, your Scottish nature came through and

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Speaker 21: you've saved up billions of dollars. And I have and

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Speaker 21: very surely I'll prove it to you.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Hey, listen, have you agreed to let you agreed

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Speaker 2: between yourselves and national that we're going to let the

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Speaker 2: foreign buyers in and it's going to cabinet in a

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Speaker 2: matter of weeks.

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Speaker 21: No, we haven't changed you. We're not changing our foreign

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Speaker 21: buyers policy.

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Speaker 2: Well, well, Nikola Willis has told Bloomberg that in a

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Speaker 2: matter of weeks you're going to cabinet and you're going

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Speaker 2: to let the people buy the houses.

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Speaker 21: No, she didn't say that whole She was talking about

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Speaker 21: a new approach to serious foreign investors.

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Speaker 2: Yes, who will be able to buy houses?

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Speaker 10: No?

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Speaker 21: No, no, See what what Lancel Party campaigned on, you

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Speaker 21: remem between twenty three they campaign on a policy which

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Speaker 21: when fiscally costed out by guess who yours truly and

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Speaker 21: later economists blew out massively and we opposed it. But

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Speaker 21: we said if you're coming in here to spend billions

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Speaker 21: and tens and billions of dollars to invest in this

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Speaker 21: country and you want to buy a house. You're not

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Speaker 21: a foreign buyer, you're a foreign investor and we've got

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Speaker 21: to look at you at new with new eyes. But

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Speaker 21: details of which are coming out shortly.

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Speaker 3: Okay, brilliant.

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Speaker 21: Thanks, I've had a chance to have spent your listeners

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Speaker 21: the truth of this matter.

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Speaker 2: Jeez, Honestly it's tiring. I Winston, thank you, Winston Peters,

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Speaker 2: Minister of Rail and Leader of New Zealand. First right,

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Speaker 2: let's deal with Health New Zealand on this food business.

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Speaker 21: Next.

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Speaker 2: Daffidil Day is just around the corner Friday, August twenty nine,

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Speaker 2: and it's a chance for us all to support the

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Speaker 2: one in three New Zealanders who are affected by cancer.

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00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 2: And that's why A and Z has been a proud

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Speaker 2: partner of the Cancer Society for thirty five years and

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Speaker 2: stands with our community in supporting this important cause this

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Speaker 2: Daffodil Day. Your donation will help provide vital care, transport

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00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 2: to the treatment, nurses, accommodation and counseling, and it also

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00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,720
Speaker 2: supports prevention programs and research that helps them prove outcomes

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Speaker 2: for future generations. So we're yellow. Buy a daffodil and

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00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 2: show your support. But if you can go one step further,

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00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 2: make a donation, because every daffodil, every dollar, every bit

889
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 2: of kindness actually really counts. It's about care, it's about hope,

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00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 2: it's about standing with those who need it most. Let's

891
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Speaker 2: make every daffodil count. With A and Z text donate

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Speaker 2: to three four nine three to make an instant three

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Speaker 2: dollar donation to the Cancer Society.

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Speaker 1: Heather Dull.

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Speaker 2: You can get to some of your texts in just

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Speaker 2: a MINUTEES eighteen past five, Health New Zealand has decided

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Speaker 2: to impose new rules on hospital cafeterias. It includes cutting

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Speaker 2: the fat off the meat, taking the skin off the chicken,

899
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Speaker 2: taking the marshmallows out of the hot chocolate, and then

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Speaker 2: hiding some food from view, like pies that have krusty tops.

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Speaker 2: Doctor Nick Chamberlain is the National Director of the National

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Speaker 2: Public Health Service and is with us now, Hey, Nick, Hi, Hi, Heather,

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Speaker 2: are you proud of these rules?

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Speaker 6: Nick?

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Speaker 15: Hither the policy is actually more supportive and enabling them.

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Speaker 15: The previous twenty sixteen and twenty nineteen policies. It gives

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Speaker 15: a broader range of choices. And you've identified one area

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Speaker 15: where there's been a change around the hot hot drinks

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Speaker 15: and some more.

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Speaker 2: I was in the hospital a few months ago I

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Speaker 2: got some warm tons, but now i'm reading your policy,

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Speaker 2: I'm not allowed the one tons anymore.

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Speaker 15: If I'm there, that's correct. One tons are in the

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Speaker 15: red category. But overall there's significantly more choice and opportunities

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Speaker 15: and where we're also working really closely with supplies so

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Speaker 15: that that makes it much easier for them. And I

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Speaker 15: think if you look at the green and orange areas,

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Speaker 15: there's really significant options including pies.

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Speaker 2: And pies had a potato top and are smaller than

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Speaker 2: two hundred and ten grams. You realize how ridiculous this

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Speaker 2: is between adults, say well.

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Speaker 15: No, that's a normal sized pie, which is a potato

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Speaker 15: top pie.

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Speaker 2: And they've got them allowed a normal sized pilot. Now

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Speaker 2: are these people private who run the cafeterias or are

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Speaker 2: they your hospital? Like does Health New Zealand run the cafeterias?

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Speaker 15: It varies, but mainly they are contracted providers.

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Speaker 2: So you're telling a private company. Are you telling you

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Speaker 2: telling a private company that they can put the potato

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Speaker 2: top pies on display, but they've got to hide the

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Speaker 2: ones with the krusty tops out the back.

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Speaker 15: We're not telling our providers too much. We're actually giving

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Speaker 15: them the options. And actually the various providers and supplies

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Speaker 15: have been very involved with But.

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Speaker 2: I thought only the green food is allowed on display

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Speaker 2: and everything else has to be hidden from view.

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Speaker 15: No, not at all. Some of the orange foods are

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Speaker 15: definitely there. We can't hide.

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Speaker 2: Well, we can display some of the orange foods.

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Speaker 15: Yep. Yes, and also heither I want to assure you

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Speaker 15: we're willing to review various aspects of the policy when

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Speaker 15: we get it wrong. And so the issue around sure,

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Speaker 15: around the hot drinks is that you know, a hot chocolate,

944
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Speaker 15: of course is about three to six teaspoons of sugar,

945
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Speaker 15: and so by us then adding further with a marshmallow,

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Speaker 15: it's about another teaspoon. You know that that was an

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Speaker 15: attempt to try and just recommend to people that they

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Speaker 15: stick to healthy.

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Speaker 2: It's not recommending that that's actually restricted. Now you tell

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Speaker 2: me something, Nick, Why do you think as an adult

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Speaker 2: I can walk down Ponsonby Road by myself a hot

952
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Speaker 2: chocolate and my child if I want to and put

953
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Speaker 2: marshmallows in. But if I come to your hospital, I'm

954
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Speaker 2: not allowed. Why is that okay? Why do you? Why

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Speaker 2: do you you can do this?

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Speaker 15: I guess if you take the converse of that, if

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Speaker 15: we didn't have some sort of healthy food guidelines within hospitals,

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Speaker 15: we'd be hugely criticized.

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Speaker 21: If we just.

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Speaker 15: Allowed everything to be available as it is everywhere else,

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Speaker 15: then people would think, well, that's actually not sending the

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Speaker 15: right message. So what we are trying to do is

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Speaker 15: provide some guidance and still give a huge amount of choice,

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Speaker 15: and really very significant choice.

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Speaker 2: McDonald's in your hospitals.

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Speaker 15: I am not sure how many McDonald's there are, but

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Speaker 15: I think there probably is one or two McDonald's are

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Speaker 15: still available in most hospitals have have have declined that

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Speaker 15: And I'm just.

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Speaker 2: Going to say, Nick, I rest my case. I appreciate

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Speaker 2: you coming on. This is ridiculous, though, good luck with it.

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Speaker 2: Doctor mcchamberlain, National Director of the National Public Health Service.

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Speaker 2: I'd love to know This exercises me probably more than

974
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Speaker 2: like I'm really upset about I'm not really upset about it.

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Speaker 2: I think it's stupid and I think I am spending

976
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Speaker 2: too much energy on how stupid this is?

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Speaker 22: Is it just me?

978
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Speaker 2: Or are you with me on this? And do I

979
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Speaker 2: need to calm down?

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Speaker 19: Nine?

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Speaker 2: Text number five twenty two.

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Speaker 1: Informed inside into today's issues. It's hither duplicy Ellen, drive

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Speaker 1: with one New Zealand let's get connected news talk sa'd

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Speaker 1: be five to twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Listen. We are about fifteen or so hours away now

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Speaker 2: from the maybe even fourteen hours from the big Trump

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Speaker 2: Putin meeting in Alaska. And let's be honest, we actually

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Speaker 2: have despite the bet that I might take again take

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Speaker 2: with Barrisopa, we have no idea if this is going

990
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Speaker 2: to be a bust or not. No one in the

991
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Speaker 2: world knows what's going to happen because no one knows

992
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Speaker 2: what happens next to the Trump Show. It is possible

993
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Speaker 2: that Putin is playing Trump for time here, just like

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Speaker 2: he strung him along this whole second presidency, pretending that

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Speaker 2: he's up for ending the war while not really being

996
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Speaker 2: up for it at all. What makes that a totally

997
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Speaker 2: plausible theory is that last Friday was the sanctions deadline.

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Speaker 2: Remember Trump said if there was no ceasefire deal by Friday,

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Speaker 2: Putin would face crippling sanctions. Putin then called the summit,

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Speaker 2: which meant that the sanctions didn't happen. So theoretically, he

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Speaker 2: could just be making it look like he's up for

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Speaker 2: negotiating peace just to keep those sanctions at bay. On

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Speaker 2: the other hand, it is totally possible that this is

1004
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Speaker 2: the start of the end, because Putin's people must have

1005
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Speaker 2: put a credible peace deal and of Trump's people in

1006
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Speaker 2: order for Trump to bother turning up for a meeting.

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Speaker 2: And Trump's threat hasn't gone away, it's just been paused.

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Speaker 2: He's already warned that Putin faces severe consequences if he

1009
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Speaker 2: refuses to end the war, and he isn't necessarily bluffing

1010
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Speaker 2: because no one took his threats against Iran seriously until

1011
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 2: he bombed the crap out of their nuclear sites. So

1012
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 2: it is entirely possible that this is in fact the

1013
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Speaker 2: first meeting in a series of meetings that eventually ends

1014
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Speaker 2: with peace struck in Ukraine. What is obvious, though, is

1015
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Speaker 2: if that's the way that it goes, Zelenski is going

1016
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Speaker 2: to have to give up land, because that is clearly

1017
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Speaker 2: going to be part of a peace deal. If there

1018
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Speaker 2: is a peace deal. The fact that Zelenski isn't at

1019
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Speaker 2: this meeting tells you already that these two Trump and

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Speaker 2: Putin know that whatever they agree to, Zelensky isn't like

1021
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Speaker 2: it or gonna like it all. So if I was Zelenski,

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Speaker 2: I would start preparing myself for the very real possibility

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Speaker 2: that Land is going to go to Putin. Ever do

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Speaker 2: for Cee, Ellen, if you're not overreacting to this hospital

1025
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Speaker 2: food I laughed the whole time during that interview. It's

1026
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 2: just ridiculous. Hither, You're right, it's a total croc omg.

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Speaker 2: Here the hospital restrictions on food displayed. What is this

1028
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 2: world coming to you? Hear me screaming in my kitchen, Heather, Heather,

1029
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Speaker 2: no one is with you on this. The hospitals are

1030
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Speaker 2: taking responsibility setting a dietary standard in Canada at restaurant,

1031
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Speaker 2: all items accompanied by their calories. Lord, I'd had to

1032
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 2: live in Canada, Heather, You need to calm down. Do

1033
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 2: you want them selling American style fast food with super

1034
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,439
Speaker 2: sized one liter fantas? No, Heither, this is the first

1035
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Speaker 2: time I disagree with you. We need to give a

1036
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Speaker 2: message to the people about healthy and unhealthy foods. Listen, listen,

1037
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Speaker 2: listen here, Okay, there are two ways that you can

1038
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,879
Speaker 2: raise a child at the moment right. You can either

1039
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Speaker 2: raise the child teach them things that they need to know,

1040
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 2: like teach them this is healthy, this is not this

1041
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 2: is your food that you eat every day, this is

1042
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 2: a treat, and then send them off into the world

1043
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 2: and let them let them make those choices as an adult.

1044
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 2: Or you can basically molly coddle your child. What's going

1045
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 2: on is health New Zealand thinks we all need to

1046
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 2: be molly coddled when we're still adults. I would like

1047
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 2: to be able to make my own decisions, wouldn't you. Anyway, Listen,

1048
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 2: I'm getting a lot of texts on the Winston thing.

1049
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Speaker 2: Let's talk about the Winston thing next headlines and then

1050
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Speaker 2: we're going to go to the sports title news talks

1051
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Speaker 2: at b.

1052
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Speaker 1: On the iHeart app and in your car on your

1053
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: drive home, it's hither duplicy Ellen drive with one New

1054
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: Zealand let's get connected newstalgs'd be.

1055
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:17,439
Speaker 15: Driving in your car.

1056
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Speaker 7: Speed's the fast?

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Speaker 3: Fellow dun.

1058
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Speaker 2: Hey, by the way, I should have said, we're gonna

1059
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Speaker 2: have a chat to Matt Terrell, who's the former chief

1060
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Speaker 2: of staff to Marco Rubio in his one of his campaigns,

1061
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Speaker 2: He's going to be us after six o'clock. I have

1062
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Speaker 2: terrible news for Nick from Health New Zealand. The Minister

1063
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Speaker 2: of Health has sent through a statement Simeon Brown quote.

1064
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Speaker 2: I've asked Health New Zealand to review their policies on

1065
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Speaker 2: food available for purchase and hospitals. Healthy nutritious food is important,

1066
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Speaker 2: but so is common sense and banning marshmallows with a

1067
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Speaker 2: hot chocolate makes no sense at all. Oh, thank god,

1068
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 2: thank god. I mean, if there's one like I look,

1069
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Speaker 2: if you're still sitting there going I don't know if

1070
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Speaker 2: I like label or national dun You know that, but

1071
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 2: you know that the Red team would have let this

1072
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Speaker 2: one through and the Blue team is stopping it. So

1073
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 2: for that reason alone, we should be incredibly grateful. Now,

1074
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 2: on Winston, I'm getting a lot of text from people

1075
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Speaker 2: saying things like this, Heather, I feel quite disrespectful when

1076
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 2: you're talking to Winston. Heather, don't be so rude. You

1077
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,760
Speaker 2: need to apologize to Winston. What you need to understand

1078
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Speaker 2: is Winston and I love each other, and so he's

1079
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Speaker 2: ready for that and I'm ready for that, and neither

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Speaker 2: of us didn't. We both enjoyed that very much, so

1081
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Speaker 2: don't worry. He's not offended in the slightest. Also, after

1082
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Speaker 2: he got off the phone from me, he kept on

1083
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,399
Speaker 2: telling off the German for the facts. And she said

1084
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Speaker 2: to him, but what facts did we get wrong? And

1085
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Speaker 2: he was we got no facts wrong. This is just

1086
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Speaker 2: a Winston performance. So anyway, and I say that with

1087
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 2: a huge amount of love. Twenty three away from sex. Now,

1088
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 2: despite the opposition, Auckland Council is pressing ahead with its

1089
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 2: plans to chop Takapoona golf course in half. They're going

1090
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 2: to keep nine holes and turn the rest into a

1091
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 2: wetland to prevent future flooding. Phil Jagged from Takapuna Golf

1092
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 2: Club met with council earlier and is with us now,

1093
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 2: how Phil, Hi, Heather, how's it going. I'm well, thank you.

1094
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 2: Are you going to accept this or are you going

1095
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 2: to fight this?

1096
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 22: We're going to take a step back and take a

1097
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 22: moment to digest this information. A council has stated that

1098
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 22: they will be proceeding with the wetland and right attention

1099
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 22: area and that no further alternatives are being considered.

1100
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 2: What does the local community think so.

1101
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 22: The local community is obviously there's been some opposition to

1102
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 22: the removal of the golf course. But this is what

1103
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 22: we've been trying to do is create a creative solution

1104
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 22: to the climate challenge, resolve the flooding issues, protect houses

1105
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 22: and so forth, but also protect the trees and natural

1106
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 22: environment and obviously protect our community assets. So that's what

1107
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 22: we put together with a proposal. Now Council has advised

1108
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 22: us that the local Board in October and November this

1109
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 22: year they will be going out for consultation on the

1110
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 22: recreational use for a of Thomas Park and that's where

1111
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 22: we'll have an opportunity to put forward our golf proposal.

1112
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 2: Now your proposal, this is the one that in which

1113
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 2: you plan to drain the floodwater into Shoal Bay.

1114
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 9: Is that right?

1115
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 22: Yeah, so that one has been rejected by Council. But

1116
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 22: the original proposal that we put on the table was

1117
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 22: working with the council landform to create to maintain aiding

1118
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,399
Speaker 22: holes while you still have the wetland and the engine area,

1119
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 22: So that was still on the table. What we will

1120
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 22: do now is we've got some further information from Council

1121
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 22: in terms of their design from that from their feasibility report,

1122
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 22: so we can have a look in greater detail at

1123
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 22: that and obviously when this consultation process goes through the

1124
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 22: local board after the elections, will go and be part

1125
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 22: of that process.

1126
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 2: Phil, Is it true that the reason that they rejected

1127
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 2: the Shoal Bay plan was because they planned to save

1128
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 2: Shoal Bay for a possible third harbor crossing for Auckland.

1129
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 22: We understand that is possibly one of the reasons why,

1130
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 22: So there is they say that to you, So there

1131
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,320
Speaker 22: is a second harbor crossing in terms of tunnel alignments

1132
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 22: in the vicinity, So that is an area that's you know,

1133
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 22: you do not want stormwater pipes clashing with the tunnel

1134
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 22: for the Luber crossing and we understand that.

1135
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,399
Speaker 2: Okay, Phil listen, thanks very much, the best of luck

1136
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 2: with everything that's Phil jagged take a pun A Golf

1137
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 2: Club spokesperson Heather Golden Balls saves the day bang on

1138
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 2: twenty away from.

1139
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 1: Six Friday Sports l with New Zealand Suberby's International Realty

1140
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 1: Unique Homes.

1141
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 23: Uniquely for you, the ADS Premiership competition is still going

1142
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 23: to have saw ferns in it, and they're still going

1143
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 23: to have the up and coming sort affirms and the

1144
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 23: future sorver firms in there. So it's still going to

1145
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 23: be a really exciting competition.

1146
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 24: Obviously, we use the three Test against the French to

1147
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:42,800
Speaker 24: play a whole squad and now we're focusing on of

1148
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 24: each a very very good Argent ten and team. They

1149
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 24: put a strong squad, a lot of experience in the

1150
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 24: Team two.

1151
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 2: This will be judged in twenty years. This is not

1152
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 2: something that's just going to be here today. Ain't going

1153
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 2: to marrow.

1154
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 4: This is a change and the ultimate test will be

1155
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 4: what does the America's Cup look like in twenty years time.

1156
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 2: Right with me on the sportshuddle, we have Darcy water

1157
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 2: Grave and we have Andrew Gordy.

1158
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 3: Hello, Elo, thank you and get a gordell a you bro,

1159
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 3: not dad mate?

1160
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 9: How are you?

1161
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 3: It's tall and handsome.

1162
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 2: No change here now, I know Darcy. You don't play

1163
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 2: the golf with the takapuna, do you.

1164
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: No.

1165
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 25: I haven't played golf since my knee fell apart, but

1166
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 25: I'm looking to get a new knee next time I'll

1167
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 25: be back. I used to play at Chamberlain out Titangi

1168
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 25: and way out West and some of the mad bushes

1169
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 25: out there, never Strode Tucker, Puna Unford.

1170
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 2: What about you, Gordy, do you strike me as a

1171
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 2: as a north shore boy who might play that.

1172
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 20: I am anything but a north Shaw blow. I'm a

1173
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,800
Speaker 20: I'm a christ Church born and bred lad and you know,

1174
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 20: transferred up here and never been a shore boy. You know,

1175
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 20: I broke my back, but I didn't play. I didn't

1176
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 20: play golf.

1177
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 12: What school did you go to?

1178
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 20: Don't don't start, But now we're interested.

1179
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:52,919
Speaker 25: But I can because I'm part of the christ Church

1180
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,320
Speaker 25: mafia as well, all of us up here from today

1181
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 25: christ I went to Martihoe High School, which is very unfast,

1182
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 25: and then I ran to Burnside for a couple of years.

1183
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 25: Then I scaped into TV.

1184
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 2: Oh okay, and what about you, Gordy, I'm.

1185
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 20: A beating ranger.

1186
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 3: All about this. I get on with Elliott Smith.

1187
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 1: Guy.

1188
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 25: I have veiled in the light because I'll tell you

1189
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,280
Speaker 25: what sad and I am. We went to the scummy

1190
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 25: schools in Christchurch, all right?

1191
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 20: So yeah, no have Elton, Elliott and even Olie Ritchie.

1192
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 20: They all went to the wrong one. They went to

1193
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:28,359
Speaker 20: the wrong one, and that admit as much. I'm sure

1194
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 20: if they were on here. But anyway, that an't the opportunity.

1195
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 2: This is not sport. Okay, Gordy, what do you make

1196
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:34,800
Speaker 2: of the netballers all leaving. We've got a list of

1197
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 2: I think it's eight who are who are probably probably

1198
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 2: very close to either already having confirmed or confirming soon.

1199
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 20: I sensed there's some panic out there. I'm not that panic.

1200
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 20: I think this is just a reality of modern sport

1201
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,240
Speaker 20: and the best players will play in the best competition

1202
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:54,760
Speaker 20: and unfortunately at the moment that's that's not the competition

1203
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 20: here in New Zealand. The best players want to go

1204
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 20: over and play on Australia and I totally understand that.

1205
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 20: And you know, I think everyone can look at this

1206
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 20: with derm and gloom, but I look at it and go, well,

1207
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 20: if our best players are going to be playing week

1208
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 20: in week out in the best competition, that means that

1209
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 20: I think they should be allowed to continue playing for

1210
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 20: the Silver Ferns and that will be a benefit to

1211
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 20: the Silver fans when it comes to the international States.

1212
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 3: What's more important for you?

1213
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 25: Do you think Andrew having accessible Silver Ferns there for

1214
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,399
Speaker 25: people to see on court, like the younger ones coming

1215
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 25: through or having success and internationally, will I regularly beating

1216
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 25: the Australians they want to straddle both?

1217
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 3: Is that possible?

1218
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 20: I see, I don't think in this in this day

1219
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 20: and age, Dart, I think that's kind of what we're

1220
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 20: talking about here is the reality is that that's not possible.

1221
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 20: And I think if you asked most most netball fans,

1222
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 20: their priority would be the silver ferns. And I think

1223
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 20: that what we're seeing play out here will achieve that.

1224
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 25: And there's always room for the sheets coming through when

1225
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 25: the more mature players up and disappear. And look, NetWorld

1226
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 25: New Zealand haven't said no yet. I'm just waiting for

1227
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 25: the time when they go.

1228
00:56:58,320 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 2: I'll have to say no.

1229
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 25: Somebody will eventually. But all the yeses have gone through

1230
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 25: and it's been there. Well, it's like an ice Berg's forum,

1231
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,399
Speaker 25: and that the wave has been enormous, it really has.

1232
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 2: Listen, are we gonna win against the Dragons tonight?

1233
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 3: Don't say we, You've got nothing to do with the.

1234
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 2: I am, it's we. Before the game.

1235
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 19: If they lose them, just.

1236
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 26: Remember that, Okay, by round fifteen, last last by when

1237
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 26: when last last lot they they messed this one up.

1238
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 3: That'll be I think their fifth lost and six home games.

1239
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 18: Do you know?

1240
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 3: Nobody knows because.

1241
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 25: This team promised so much and then injury beat them

1242
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 25: up and also they let some games just go straight through.

1243
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 25: I think that Gordy, the embarrassment around what happened last

1244
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 25: week against the Dogs is going to be enough to

1245
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 25: light a fire underneath them.

1246
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 9: If if Angel Webster isn't a really.

1247
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 20: Right, well, I certainly hope so. And to be honest,

1248
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 20: my heart is still broken from that loss to the Dolphins.

1249
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 20: That was that was tough to watch, tough to take.

1250
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 20: I think most Warriors fans are probably still even recovering

1251
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 20: from that. So I hate using the term must win,

1252
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 20: but I'm a huge believer in that momentum, positive or

1253
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 20: negative is everything in sport, and one more defeat feels

1254
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 20: like we might be on a slot pree slope that

1255
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 20: might be hard hard to get any sort of traction from.

1256
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 20: So it does feel like a really, really important game

1257
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 20: for the Warriors. I'm thrilled that Tan of boys back,

1258
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:35,919
Speaker 20: to be honest, and thrilled that Weighed Egan is back.

1259
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 20: I'm feeling I won't say I'm overly confident, but if

1260
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 20: I was a betting man, and some people might say,

1261
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 20: I am I'm going to be with the Warriors.

1262
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 3: Do you know there's still a mathematical chance that they

1263
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 3: won't hit the eight?

1264
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:50,919
Speaker 15: Yeah?

1265
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 20: Not a mathematician. All right, not go there.

1266
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a break. We'll come back and

1267
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 2: just geez, that was a cackle, wasn't it. Gold take

1268
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 2: a break, come back with the sports uddle shortly Cauughter too.

1269
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: The Freday Sports title with New Zealand Southby's international real

1270
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 1: team the ones for unmasked results.

1271
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,439
Speaker 2: Back with the sports titdle Darcy Waldgrave and Andrew Gordy. Gordy,

1272
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 2: what do you make of the token woman on the boats?

1273
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 13: Uh?

1274
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 20: Yeah, great question, to be honest, I kind of I

1275
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 20: get it, and I think this is probably a smart

1276
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 20: move from in terms of optics and in terms of

1277
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 20: marketing the America's Cup and making sure you're appealing to

1278
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 20: you know, as wide a possible audience as possible. But

1279
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 20: it feels like a bit of a copy of sale GP,

1280
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 20: doesn't it. But I'm actually more interested in the influencer rule,

1281
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 20: and I can't help but wonder guys like who are

1282
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 20: going to be the influencers that fill the boat for

1283
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 20: the Emirates New Zealand. It feels like this may as

1284
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 20: will be called the Mike Hostking rule. Like surely Hoskers,

1285
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 20: it's got this lined up.

1286
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:01,959
Speaker 25: It's what they need to mister Beast who's got half

1287
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 25: a billion fans on YouTube and he's just launched a

1288
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 25: burger bar over here.

1289
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 3: Get Beast on the boat, mate.

1290
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 9: You've got so.

1291
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 3: Many people straight away they all right, you need to

1292
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 3: hit high. You want to go glow. You want to

1293
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 3: go to the superstar. You get right up there and

1294
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 3: go that way. Not not this this New Zealanders because

1295
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 3: I'll just be jealous of Hill. It might go on

1296
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 3: because I want.

1297
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 2: This is a good point that he makes, though, Gordio,

1298
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 2: I mean you want to go, you want You don't

1299
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 2: want to be tapping an audience that is already tapped, right,

1300
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 2: and Hoskins audience is already into the boats you want

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01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 2: to go to, like for example, the Kardashians where they

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Speaker 2: go diamonds bling makeup boats.

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Speaker 3: You want to go to what at tracks?

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Speaker 25: The youth, the generation this generation coming through, don't go

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Speaker 25: I peeled up taking in thieves like me.

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Speaker 3: You don't want to do that.

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Speaker 25: You want something and that drags the young eyes in

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Speaker 25: and on the women side of things, it's about time

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Speaker 25: they woke up to this.

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Speaker 3: A bit late to the party, but that's all right.

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Speaker 3: They got there. Sale GP did him a favor.

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Speaker 2: Right, Okay, Now do we Darcy, do we take out

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Speaker 2: the games against Argentina? Because remember arg and he have

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Speaker 2: beatenim just recently. The British and Irish lines, so they're

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Speaker 2: not rubbish.

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Speaker 25: That was the start of the British Irish lines to it,

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Speaker 25: and that was a bit sloppy from them. I don't

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Speaker 25: think they've been particularly good up after that. I would

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Speaker 25: be stunned if we were to be rolled. I remember

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Speaker 25: back in the day you'll two Andrew Gordy as well

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Speaker 25: when you go. Porter nearly kicked us to death in

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Speaker 25: the game and it ended up with drawing. Ben Blair

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Speaker 25: was talking last night, Ben Blair out of Canterbury. Remember

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Speaker 25: that he pulled off the train?

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Speaker 9: Well hold on?

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Speaker 25: Did he was?

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Speaker 3: It was it Robertson who passed to him to score

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Speaker 3: all the other way round to.

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Speaker 15: Right?

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Speaker 3: No, wouldn't he?

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Speaker 20: This is really on Instagram a couple of days.

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Speaker 3: You see social media.

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Speaker 25: It's absolutely huge. What I like about this angel? I

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Speaker 25: talk about this later on today. Filly Christy's going to

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Speaker 25: join us on the show in sports talking. Is this

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Speaker 25: we finally seen racist fingerprints on the side, because last

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Speaker 25: year there were no fingerprints at all.

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Speaker 3: It was Foster's team and he tweaked it away bit

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Speaker 3: when I don't know, now, this is his team.

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Speaker 25: This is what's going to the world. Company goes right,

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01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 25: you're a winger. I'm going to put you and it's center.

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Speaker 25: This is what my loose Ford trio looks like.

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Speaker 19: Deal with it.

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Speaker 9: You're the men.

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Speaker 25: And I think that confidence given to these guys to

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Speaker 25: actually go out there and it horrible to express them.

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Speaker 25: I think that's really really important.

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Speaker 2: Andrew, So what do you think, Goodie.

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Speaker 20: I think we will be Argentina. I'm a little uncomfortable

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Speaker 20: about it, though I don't expect. I expected the All

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Speaker 20: Blacks to beat France in the home series, and I

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Speaker 20: know we got it, got a little bit close there,

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Speaker 20: but I expected this week we got there. I'm less

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Speaker 20: confident about Argentina. I think they might be a little

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Speaker 20: better than you know, perhaps some people might be giving

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Speaker 20: them credit for. But look, I like the team that

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Speaker 20: the selectors have named. Apart from and I know that

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Speaker 20: this has partially been forced upon them, but if Ardie

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Speaker 20: Savier is going to be wearing the number seven jersey

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Speaker 20: going forward, I want to see him wearing that jersey

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Speaker 20: as much as possible. Firm believe and that you should

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Speaker 20: build your team around your best players. And if number

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Speaker 20: eight is not where Artie is going to be playing,

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Speaker 20: and this is not a splant at all on d

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Speaker 20: seek Refie outstanding player. I'm sure he'll do the jersey

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Speaker 20: justice over there this weekend. But I want the team

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Speaker 20: build around the best players and they should be in

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Speaker 20: their best positions. That's where Artie should be.

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Speaker 2: Hey, guys, thank you so much. Appreciate it and enjoy

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Speaker 2: your glass of pino noir with the Warriors this evening,

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Speaker 2: both of you. That's Darcy Watergrave Andrew Gordi. Our sports

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Speaker 2: title this evening, eight away from six.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather duper c Allen Drive Full Show podcast

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Speaker 1: on My Art Radio powered by News Talks.

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Speaker 2: Be Heather, please get the sports title to talk about

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Speaker 2: the massive World Darts event that's happening at Spark Arena tonight.

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Speaker 2: It's a sellout. It's going to be so good. My

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Speaker 2: son has just left to go with his mates, and

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Speaker 2: they're all dressed up in their costumes. These guys have

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Speaker 2: dressed as monks with a priest, and the gear looks

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Speaker 2: so authentic. I'm sorry we didn't get a chance to

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Speaker 2: talk about that, but that actually does sound like an

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Speaker 2: awesome event on this evening. An unexpectedly nice gesture from

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Speaker 2: the Taliban. Not a sentence I will probably ever have

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Speaker 2: to say again in my life. But they are planning

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Speaker 2: to fly. They've got the fourth anniversary of their return

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Speaker 2: to power in Afghanistan happening today, like as in their time, today,

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Speaker 2: they are going to fly helicopters over the top of

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Speaker 2: Carbule and drop flowers. I know when I said drop

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Speaker 2: you were like, what, no flowers. They're going to drop flowers.

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Speaker 2: They're going to perform beautiful aerial displays, shower the city

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Speaker 2: with colorful flowers. The athletes are going to be doing

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Speaker 2: sports performances from the afternoon until the early evening. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's not at all, not at all the kinds of

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Speaker 2: thing that I expected they would be doing, but there

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Speaker 2: you go. You can always be surprised far away from sex.

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Speaker 21: Now.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how I missed this this week, but

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Speaker 2: earlier This week, Audrey Young spoke to Mark Mitchell for

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Speaker 2: The Herald and talk to him about the various health challenges.

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Speaker 2: Challenges he's had from some past injuries is quite remarkable.

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Speaker 2: What he's had to go through as a body. So

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Speaker 2: he had in the nineteen nineties work a sleeping mother

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Speaker 2: and a son to get them out of the house

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Speaker 2: an arsonist had set fire to the house. He's got

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Speaker 2: ongoing lung damage from that. He took a hammering to

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Speaker 2: his face from four mongrel mob members that he was

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Speaker 2: following in relation to a gang rape. He had some

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Speaker 2: surgery to rebuild the eye socket and release a nerve

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Speaker 2: that had been trapped by a broken bone. Then he

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Speaker 2: was stabbed by a young man with a samurai sword

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Speaker 2: which slices through his elbow. He has never had a

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Speaker 2: pain free day since because it's done damage to all

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Speaker 2: of his nerves there. It's had multiple operations to try

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Speaker 2: to relieve the chronic pain. He also survived three explosions

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Speaker 2: in vehicles. The explosions were caused by IED's In one,

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Speaker 2: he got a whole lot of shrapnel up into his

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Speaker 2: lower back and his bum, which has caused nerve damage

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Speaker 2: in his right leg. Isn't that incredible? So when I

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Speaker 2: mean when the police minister gives the shoutouts that he

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Speaker 2: always does, doesn't he like there's not an interview that

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Speaker 2: goes past with Mark Mitchell, he doesn't have take the

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Speaker 2: opportunity to shout out to the police officers, the good

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Speaker 2: guys and girls on the front line. He's actually lived

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Speaker 2: what they are going through. He's had slices in his

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Speaker 2: arms and stuff in his butt. It's quite incredible. Well

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Speaker 2: done him for being able for being the guy who's

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Speaker 2: actually gone through that, and then he's actually taken the

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Speaker 2: job that he's in at the moment. Anyway, As I said,

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Speaker 2: Matt Terrell, former chief of staff to Marco Rubio, with

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Speaker 2: us straight after six o'clock, we'll talk through the summit

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Speaker 2: about to happen in Alaska, newstalks EDB.

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Speaker 1: What's what's down one with a major cause and how

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Speaker 1: will it affect the economy? The big business questions on

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Speaker 1: the Business Hour with Hither Duplicy, Allen and maz for

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Speaker 1: Trusted Home Insurance Solutions News Talks.

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Speaker 19: EDB Evening coming up in the next hour.

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Speaker 2: Peter Lewis is going to talk us through the complications

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Speaker 2: of Nvidia agreeing to pay Trump for permission to sell

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Speaker 2: their stuff to China. Barrysopaul rap the political week that

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Speaker 2: was and Grays with us out of the UK. It's

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Speaker 2: eight past six now. US and Russian officials are on

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Speaker 2: their way to Alaska right now ahead of tomorrow's summit.

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump's going to meet with Ladd at seven thirty

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Speaker 2: our time tomorrow morning to broke a re ceasefire in

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Speaker 2: the Ukraine War. It's the first time the two have

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Speaker 2: met in six years. Donald Trump rates his chance of

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Speaker 2: success at about seventy five percent now. Matt Terrell is

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Speaker 2: US Secretary of State, Marco Rubio's former chief of staff,

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Speaker 2: and currently managing partner at Firehouse Strategies. I'm Matt, hey,

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Speaker 2: great to be with you. Okay, So tell me what

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Speaker 2: you think success looks like. Is it just positive noises

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Speaker 2: from Persian or is it an actual deal?

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Speaker 18: Well, look, first and foremost, I think it's a big

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Speaker 18: step tomorrow having President Putin and President Trump sit down.

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Speaker 18: So this is a major step for it's hopefully having

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Speaker 18: peace here. But look, I think the outcome ultimate needs

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Speaker 18: to be getting to a ceasefire here, then from there

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Speaker 18: get into a place where you're talking about security guarantees

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Speaker 18: for Ukraine. Then ultimately, of course time on land. Those

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Speaker 18: are the next components of this. So I think tomorrow,

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Speaker 18: I think President Trump's done a good job of manage

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Speaker 18: expectations about what tomorrow could be optimistic. I think that

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Speaker 18: that progress will be made. But in the end, ultimate,

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Speaker 18: the way he houses said, this is listening session tomorrow,

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Speaker 18: gad did from President Poon gets the negotiaing table and

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Speaker 18: this war. Maybe you have something like a ceasefire coming

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Speaker 18: out of this. I don't think that that's going to happen.

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Speaker 18: It could, but I think ultimately President Trump recognizes that

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Speaker 18: look of President Poon wants to come to the table

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Speaker 18: here and I think wants to make a deal. I

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Speaker 18: think President Trump has been clear he feels as though

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Speaker 18: President Pun wants to make a deal. I believe that

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Speaker 18: as well.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what are the chances that Posen is just playing him,

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Speaker 2: stalling for time so he can keep fighting.

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Speaker 18: Well, Look, I think the question is what has gotten

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Speaker 18: President Pun to this point to meet with President Trump tomorrow?

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Speaker 18: What has changed? And I think what's changed is that

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Speaker 18: President Pun's been watching what President Trump has been doing.

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Speaker 18: He saw what President Trump did in terms of launching

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Speaker 18: those attacks in Iran when Iran missed its deadline to

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Speaker 18: come to the negost chain table. He saw what President

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Speaker 18: Trump did when it came to supplying Ukraine with the

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Speaker 18: necessary military capabilities to defend itself. And President Pun just

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Speaker 18: saw what President Trump did in terms of putting terroriffts

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Speaker 18: on India, a major trading partner India is with Russia

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Speaker 18: and putting those terrorists on India because India has been

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Speaker 18: consuming Russian oil. So I think right now President Putin

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Speaker 18: recognizes that President Trump is notting around here. He's been watching.

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Speaker 18: They're President Puns ready to negotiate. I think he recognizes

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Speaker 18: that President Trump is serious here. And President Trump, I

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Speaker 18: think if he does not get the recognition tomorrow that

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Speaker 18: President pun is serious about next steps here in terms

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Speaker 18: of end of this war, I think he's going to

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Speaker 18: go and crush Russia's economy.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 18: The recognition right now, I think among the White House

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Speaker 18: is that this is the for President pun to show

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Speaker 18: up and to be serious about getting this war to

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Speaker 18: come to an end. If he's not, then I think

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Speaker 18: President Trump will move forward with terroriffts and sanctions that

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Speaker 18: will crush Russia's economy. President pun doesn't want that. I

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Speaker 18: think President Putin and President Trump will find a way

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Speaker 18: to get to a deal here. The only person can

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Speaker 18: end this war is Trump any more. Leader. I think

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Speaker 18: tomorrow is a major step forward here and I'm optimistic

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Speaker 18: about what will come next.

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Speaker 2: Okay, do you think zelene Ski needs to get real

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Speaker 2: and accept the fact that he is going to have

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Speaker 2: to give up some land here?

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Speaker 18: Absolutely. Look the recognition here, I think among everyone who's

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Speaker 18: at the table here is that you are at a

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Speaker 18: situation here where the only way to get this war

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Speaker 18: to come to an end is at the table. I

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Speaker 18: do not believe that this war will come to an end.

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Speaker 18: Have to have both sides, you know, give things up here.

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Speaker 18: And people can argue that that's not right or not there,

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Speaker 18: but you can be either idealistic about this really and

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Speaker 18: the realities are what they are on the ground. And

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Speaker 18: to your question, I think you're gonna have to see

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Speaker 18: both sides give things up here. You're gonna have to

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Speaker 18: talk of course about you know, security guarantees for Ukraine.

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Speaker 18: That's important. You may very well get to a point

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Speaker 18: where you get to the discussions of talking about swapping

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Speaker 18: of land, but you're gonna have to see. I think

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Speaker 18: both sides give up things here that they don't want

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Speaker 18: to give up. But what's going to be needed in

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Speaker 18: terms of getting this scene to come to an AD.

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Speaker 18: You can't keep going down to the scene path have

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Speaker 18: been going on. I've continued to war. I think you've

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Speaker 18: got to get this scene to come to an AD.

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Speaker 18: That needs to happen the negotiating table and that's going

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Speaker 18: to mean a concessions on both sides here. We'll see

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Speaker 18: where that all goes. But there is next steps.

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Speaker 21: The first.

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01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:21,680
Speaker 18: He's giving that ceaseflare, having that ceaseflare hold and then

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Speaker 18: get into discussions around on those other variables.

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Speaker 2: Matt, thanks very much, appreciate it. Matt Terrell, Marco Rubio's

1540
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 2: former chief of staff, managing director, a managing partner currently

1541
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:32,679
Speaker 2: of Firehouse Strategies and apologies for the quality of the line.

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01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 2: Twelve past six, Heather duples the l Congratulations to James Cameron.

1543
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 2: He managed to get him. He's finally got himself his

1544
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:42,759
Speaker 2: Kiwi citizenship. Went to a little ceremony at to Papa

1545
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Speaker 2: and Wellington on Wednesday night. Got it. Happy days for him. Now,

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01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 2: what do you think about this because yesterday this time

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01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:52,920
Speaker 2: we were talking to the Mayor of Allsadhana about how awesome,

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01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:55,680
Speaker 2: you know, people around the council table are and how

1549
01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 2: they you know, they're just trying to do the right

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01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 2: thing by us and they don't need, they don't need

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01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 2: the government telling them how to do their business and stuff.

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01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 2: Tell me what you think about this again. At the

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01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:08,120
Speaker 2: Carpety Coast, the chief executive of the Council went to

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01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:12,280
Speaker 2: Harvard Business School for six days. It cost the council

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01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 2: and when I say the council, what I mean is

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Speaker 2: the rate payers. It cost the rate payers forty three

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars to send him there. He went between June

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01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:23,639
Speaker 2: the eighth and June the thirteenth, approved by the Council's

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01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 2: Chief Executive, Performance and Employment Committee, which is made up

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01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 2: of the Mayor, the Deputy Mayor, and couple of councilors.

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01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:32,600
Speaker 2: Flew out to Boston on June the sixth paid a

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01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 2: total of twelve thousand dollars for return flights that will

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01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 2: be business class, eleven hundred dollars for two nights accommodation

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01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 2: before the course started, four hundred dollars for five uber

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01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:48,280
Speaker 2: trips that is a lot for five uber trips a

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01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 2: four hundred dollars. That's like an eighty dollar Uber trip

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01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:52,760
Speaker 2: each of them. When was the last time you took

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01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 2: an eighty dollar Uber trip? Every single one of my

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01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 2: uber trips lately? Nine dollars seventy two, nine dollars seventy two,

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01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:01,479
Speaker 2: nine dollars six two, nine dollars seventy two. Where you

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01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:03,599
Speaker 2: get an eighty dollar Uber trip, where are you going, mate,

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01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:06,479
Speaker 2: one hundred and forty two dollars or two dinners and

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01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:10,160
Speaker 2: then thirty thousand dollars for the tuition? Do you think

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01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:14,600
Speaker 2: that is good council spending? Because I'm gonna make the

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Speaker 2: argument that it isn't on account of the fact that

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Speaker 2: here's the no disrespect to Darren, but Darren is the

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01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 2: chief executive of one of many, many, many tiny little

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01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 2: councils around It's not a big deal. That's just a council.

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Speaker 7: We have.

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Speaker 2: How many of these councils? We have about seventy of

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01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 2: these different local authorities around the country, right, So he's

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01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:34,840
Speaker 2: the he's the chief executive of one of seventy of

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01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 2: these things. To be one of the smaller ones, I

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01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 2: would have thought Carpety and they flew. What do they

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01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 2: need to fly him out to Harvard for to be

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Speaker 2: the chief executive of one of these tiny little things.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that the carpety ratepayers are getting value

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01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:51,600
Speaker 2: for money. What do you think the sense to it? Like,

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Speaker 2: especially when we've got the rates going up at the

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01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 2: rate that they are. I feel like that's an expense

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01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 2: it could have been cut. Fifteen past six.

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Speaker 1: It's the head duper. See Alan Drive Full show podcast

1593
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:05,400
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Speaker 2: Right now it's seventeen pass six. Now let's wrap the

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01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 2: political week that was with Barry Sopaer, Senior political correspondent.

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01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 2: Welcome back, Barry, Hello again hear that. Do you think

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01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 2: the four Labor MP's former ministers have made the right decision?

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01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 9: No, I don't. I think the public has a right

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01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:27,719
Speaker 9: to hear from them. They were day after day fronting

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01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 9: the pulpit of truth.

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01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 3: They called it that.

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01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 9: They said, anything you heard outside of the beehive Theaterrett

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01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:36,640
Speaker 9: was not to be listened to.

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01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 2: No truth.

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01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 9: That's right. We've got the opportunity now to hear from

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01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:43,800
Speaker 9: the very people that were making decisions for a lot

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01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 9: of people that were the wrong decision, and this nefarious

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01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 9: figure of Jasinda Dern saving ten thousand lives or twenty thousand.

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01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 9: Oh terribly sorry. I thought it was a twenty well ten, it.

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01:14:57,400 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 2: Is twenty, she says.

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01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 9: That's what she says, And he's ever proven that figure,

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01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:04,040
Speaker 9: and you can never prove it anyway. She's used it

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01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:06,680
Speaker 9: time and time again. I think the public has a

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01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 9: right to know, they have a right to see them

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01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 9: being questioned, and for them not to front up, I

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01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 9: think is nothing short of disgraceful. The worst aspect of it, though,

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01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:20,880
Speaker 9: is that two of these people, one is a senior

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01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 9: front bencher in the Labor Party Aisheverral, and the other

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01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 9: is the man who hopes to be Prime Minister next year,

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01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 9: Chris Hipkins. Now Hipkins was the COVID Response Minister, so he,

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01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 9: like Dern, was equally culpable of exactly what went on

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01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 9: during that time. For them not to front up and

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01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:47,560
Speaker 9: answer questions publicly, it's just unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: When I asked you that question, have they made the

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01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 2: right decision? I was actually meaning for themselves right, and

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01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:57,720
Speaker 2: particularly for Jacinda and for Grant, for their ongoing reputations,

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01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 2: but for Chippy and for aisha for their ability to

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01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:02,600
Speaker 2: actually become the next government. And I would say in

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01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:03,559
Speaker 2: all cases no.

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Speaker 9: Right, Well, the thing is they have to have the

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01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:09,160
Speaker 9: courage of their convictions. They have told us time and

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01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:12,679
Speaker 9: time again the decisions that they made during the COVID

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01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:16,479
Speaker 9: response was right and there's never a question about that. Well,

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01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 9: let's hear the question in public, and it's it's a

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01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 9: different environment now, people have had time to reflect and

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01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 9: I think people have a right to hear from them.

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01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 2: I think it hurts Chippy's chances of becoming Prime minister, whatever,

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01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:31,840
Speaker 2: however small those chances were, because if he'd fronted up

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01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:33,760
Speaker 2: and said, look, yep, we did this right and we

1640
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 2: made mistakes here, I think people would have more respect

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01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 2: for that than for this guy who's going to trust

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01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 2: him to be prime minister again?

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01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:44,520
Speaker 3: If you know that he's going to that is absolutely

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01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 3: the right.

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01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:46,759
Speaker 2: The unaccountable for this decision.

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01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:49,120
Speaker 9: Of course he should be fronting up and if he

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01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 9: does want to become prime minister, he's got to be

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01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 9: accountable and he's got to have the courage of his

1649
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:55,800
Speaker 9: convictions when it comes to this dec issue.

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01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:58,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. Now what about Chloe, She's been absolutely smacked

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Speaker 2: around by Audrey.

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01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 9: My Audry is. But the thing is that her speech

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01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:07,840
Speaker 9: in the house, if you listened to it as I did,

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01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:11,720
Speaker 9: was actually a very good speech coming from her perspective

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01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:15,080
Speaker 9: of course, that is, and nobody in that house would

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01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 9: argue that the people of Gaza have been treated appallingly,

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01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:24,439
Speaker 9: and nobody like Chris Hapkin said, as Chris Luxon said

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01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 9: this week, netnya who has lost the plot, and clearly

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01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:32,600
Speaker 9: had lost the plot some time ago. So certainly she

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01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 9: made a very strong speech but ended it in the

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01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 9: wrong way by saying that they should have the spine

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01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:43,880
Speaker 9: to cross the house and vote for her sanctions bill.

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01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:48,920
Speaker 9: That's good that it wasn't a major offense. She could

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01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:51,519
Speaker 9: say that when the Speaker said to her, withdraw and

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01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 9: apologize for that remark, she should simply have understood that

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01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:58,599
Speaker 9: she had said what she wanted to say and withdraw

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01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 9: an apology she wanted the attentions, wrote herself right into

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01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 9: the center of an issue that she was trying to promote.

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01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 9: But she became the issue then, which is really defeating

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01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 9: the whole purpose of what a good speech she had

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01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:13,559
Speaker 9: made in the house.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, I almost forgot my favorite story of the week,

1673
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:17,639
Speaker 2: which was willow Jen Prime.

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01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:19,719
Speaker 9: Oh goodness gracious.

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01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:21,720
Speaker 2: I mean, if Chippy thinks he's got problems with him,

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01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:23,760
Speaker 2: and iha, he's also got problems with her, isn't he.

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01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:27,800
Speaker 9: Well, I know you betrayed my confidences when it came

1678
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 9: to willow Jen Prime.

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01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:31,479
Speaker 2: What I said, and you tell me if this is wrong.

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01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:33,280
Speaker 2: What I said is that every time you watch the

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01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 2: news and you see her, you go, oh, Jay's that

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01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:38,280
Speaker 2: woman's dumb. But you do believe that, don't you.

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01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:40,840
Speaker 9: Well, you know, I wouldn't say it in that way,

1684
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:43,320
Speaker 9: of course, much diplomatic.

1685
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 2: Say that on the radio's.

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01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:52,960
Speaker 9: Publicly. And for her to say that she wanted consultation

1687
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 9: with the government, which is an extraordinary change in the

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01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:03,840
Speaker 9: education in this country. The NCAA she was offered at

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01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:08,240
Speaker 9: time and time again by the government and she turned

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01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 9: it down. And of course then Chris Hopkins became involved

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01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:14,559
Speaker 9: and he knew that she had been turning it down

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01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:15,000
Speaker 9: as well.

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01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 18: Well.

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01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:19,400
Speaker 9: Again, the credibility of labor, you'd have to say, and

1695
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 9: I don't like criticizing labor anymore than I like criticizing anybody,

1696
01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:27,639
Speaker 9: but on these issues, labor has fallen really short.

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01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 2: This week Barry. Thanks very much, Barry Soaper, our senior

1698
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 2: political correspondent for US wrapping the political week that was hither,

1699
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:35,680
Speaker 2: I can't let you let the nation think that our

1700
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 2: police Minister Mark Mitchell has nerd nerve damage and has

1701
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:41,280
Speaker 2: bumped from an IUD. As you just said on air,

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01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:45,519
Speaker 2: it was from an ied improvised explosive device. Love your show.

1703
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 3: Sorry about that.

1704
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:50,479
Speaker 2: It wasn't a contraceptive device that's caused the nerve damage.

1705
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 2: It's cause other people nerve damage, but not it was

1706
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 2: a bomb. Six twenty three, Everything from SMEs to the

1707
01:19:57,640 --> 01:19:58,440
Speaker 2: big corporates.

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01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 1: The Business Hour with the Heather of duplessy Ellen and

1709
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:04,440
Speaker 1: MAS for Trusted Home Insurance Solutions.

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01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:07,639
Speaker 2: Some news talks that'd be haha, Heather, Is that why

1711
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 2: Mike Mitchell is such a hard ass? Maybe? So, Hey, listen,

1712
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 2: somebody's just been arrested at the border for failing to

1713
01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 2: pay their student loan. You are going to want to

1714
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 2: hear this because this is a very interesting case, and

1715
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 2: you know, I'm loving the crackdown on this stuff. So

1716
01:20:21,320 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 2: I'll get your take on it shortly. Six twenty six, in.

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01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:28,080
Speaker 1: Some shit Heather duplessy Ellen, some show biz.

1718
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:35,080
Speaker 2: News out to Sex in the City the final but

1719
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:37,120
Speaker 2: it's all over. It's all come to an end. Now

1720
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:40,400
Speaker 2: over one hundred episodes across two shows, two average quality

1721
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:42,040
Speaker 2: movies as well. I think we can agree on that.

1722
01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:45,240
Speaker 2: The spinoff series And Just Like That has aired season

1723
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 2: three finale. The show was recently canceled, meaning it's not

1724
01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:51,040
Speaker 2: going to come back for a fourth season, but quote unquote,

1725
01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 2: fans of the show are not disappointed by that the

1726
01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:56,200
Speaker 2: nightmare is officially over.

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Speaker 17: This is literally what happens when you replace a beloved

1728
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:03,599
Speaker 17: leading man, a handsome, conservative, successful man with the cringe

1729
01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:07,519
Speaker 17: non binary, overweight comedian. Turns out people aren't gonna love

1730
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 17: your show at that point.

1731
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:12,559
Speaker 2: Hmmm, that's Shade Shay Diaz that he's talking about, who

1732
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:16,240
Speaker 2: is officially one of the worst characters in all of history,

1733
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:18,040
Speaker 2: to the point that they may have in fact ruined

1734
01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 2: the show. Anyhow, you can watch all three seasons of

1735
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:23,799
Speaker 2: And Just Like That with Neon, which I highly recommend

1736
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:28,640
Speaker 2: because I'm a Sky shareholder, and if you if you

1737
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 2: take out a Neon subscription, kitching, kitching, That's what I want. People.

1738
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 2: You can find the movies on Prime video or in

1739
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:38,639
Speaker 2: a video store. Bag and bin somewhere around the world. Anyway, Listen,

1740
01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 2: we're going to talk to Peter Lewis shortly, and I

1741
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:42,960
Speaker 2: got to tell you the story about the woman who's

1742
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:44,360
Speaker 2: just got arrested at the border. You make up your

1743
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:45,599
Speaker 2: mind about it. News is next.

1744
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:53,080
Speaker 1: If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

1745
01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Heather Duper, c Ellen and Mez

1746
01:21:57,439 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 1: for Trusted Home Insurance Solutions.

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01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 5: To be.

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01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 13: Well hither.

1749
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 2: It's a great story that id rather have cracked down

1750
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:10,280
Speaker 2: on this lady. I can't believe she's not too ashamed

1751
01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 2: to talk about it publicly. I'm going to talk about that.

1752
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:14,080
Speaker 2: I'll rang through the full detail in just a minute.

1753
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:15,760
Speaker 2: And Gavin Grays with us out of the UK. It's

1754
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:17,760
Speaker 2: twenty five away from seven and with us right now

1755
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:22,200
Speaker 2: we have Peter Lewis Asia Business correspondent Halopiza. Hello, head,

1756
01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:24,640
Speaker 2: what do you make of the fact that Trump has

1757
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:26,760
Speaker 2: extended the deadline with China again?

1758
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Speaker 12: I think it's kicking the can down the road. I

1759
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 12: don't think they're making that much progress. Other than what

1760
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:38,840
Speaker 12: this kicking of the can does is it reduces the

1761
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 12: impact of what it would have been exceedingly high tariffs

1762
01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 12: because there would have been one hundred and forty five

1763
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:48,200
Speaker 12: tarots on China, and China would have had one hundred

1764
01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:50,880
Speaker 12: and twenty five percent twists back on the US, So

1765
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:55,719
Speaker 12: that would have effectively ended all trade between both countries.

1766
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 12: It would have been a trade in bargo. But what

1767
01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:01,160
Speaker 12: are they going to do in this three months? They've

1768
01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:04,080
Speaker 12: been talking for a long time now, and I think

1769
01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:08,000
Speaker 12: the problem is the differences between the two sides are

1770
01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:13,280
Speaker 12: really just too intractable. From the Chinese side, they are

1771
01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:18,680
Speaker 12: ramping up production in all these industries, causing massive overcapacity

1772
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:22,840
Speaker 12: and driving prices down, which is affecting companies and industries

1773
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Speaker 12: around the world, basically putting them either close to extinction

1774
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:31,720
Speaker 12: or sending that particular sector into deflation. And then from

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01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:35,600
Speaker 12: the US side, they have this belief that when you

1776
01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:39,280
Speaker 12: have trade between two countries there are winners and losers.

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01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:41,920
Speaker 12: It's not a benefit for both sides. If I win,

1778
01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 12: then you lose. And as long as you have that attitude,

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01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:48,560
Speaker 12: it's very hard to come up with any sort of

1780
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:52,680
Speaker 12: trade deal which is mutually beneficial because as soon you

1781
01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:55,679
Speaker 12: see benefits from one side, you want to take them away.

1782
01:23:56,160 --> 01:24:00,360
Speaker 12: So with that sort of mindset and China's mindset really

1783
01:24:00,439 --> 01:24:04,400
Speaker 12: this command and controlled economy where they dictate which sectors,

1784
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 12: which companies get investments and do well. And also plus

1785
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 12: the US concerns over national security that it's high tech

1786
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:16,479
Speaker 12: semiconductor's chip making equipments is getting into the hands of

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Speaker 12: the military. I see it very hard to see how

1788
01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:22,759
Speaker 12: they're going to make much progress over the next three months,

1789
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 12: and we're just going to be in the same position

1790
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:25,599
Speaker 12: again come November.

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Speaker 2: I feel uncomfortable. I mean, I feel like this is

1792
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 2: the kind of idea that we had ditched, but it

1793
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 2: seems to have come back. I feel very uncomfortable about it.

1794
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:36,439
Speaker 2: In video having to pay the government in the US

1795
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:38,200
Speaker 2: a share of its sales in order to be able

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01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:39,559
Speaker 2: to make those sales to China.

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Speaker 12: Do you absolutely? I mean, this is unprecedented. You don't

1798
01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 12: charge companies for getting export licenses, in particular when that

1799
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:55,560
Speaker 12: export license gives the company a huge advantage because you

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01:24:55,680 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 12: can sell products into the world's largest consumer market, China

1801
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:05,720
Speaker 12: that other companies without those export licenses don't have. So

1802
01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:08,320
Speaker 12: it's almost like a bribe. It's saying I will give

1803
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:12,680
Speaker 12: you these export licenses, but in return, you have to

1804
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 12: pay me fifteen percent of your revenues. It's sort of

1805
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:21,120
Speaker 12: like the mafia. It's mats of extortion. Plus there is

1806
01:25:21,160 --> 01:25:23,240
Speaker 12: an issue which I don't think has been resolved, is

1807
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:27,519
Speaker 12: under the US constitution, export taxes are illegal. So this

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01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:31,679
Speaker 12: is in effect an export tax. And if these products

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01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 12: that the video is selling to China, or even the

1810
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:38,920
Speaker 12: cut down versions, are supposed to be a national security

1811
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:41,760
Speaker 12: threat because there's a risk that they will get into

1812
01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:44,719
Speaker 12: the wrong hands and do enormous damage to the US.

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01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:47,639
Speaker 12: Paying fifteen percent of your revenues doesn't get.

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Speaker 2: Around that fast.

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Speaker 12: They are still national security threats.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, totally Listen. Do you think that there's anything that

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01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:56,800
Speaker 2: India can do to repair its relationship with the US.

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Speaker 12: I don't think it's trying hard at the moment. I

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01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:05,160
Speaker 12: think one it's doing now is it sees a lot

1820
01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:08,720
Speaker 12: of ground to be made in terms of developing relationships

1821
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:12,840
Speaker 12: with other emerging market countries, particularly the bricks. So it's

1822
01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 12: speaking with Brazil about ways in which they can work

1823
01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:19,600
Speaker 12: together to avoid the impact of the US tarots. It

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01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:25,320
Speaker 12: is driving China and India closer together the Endramodi is

1825
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:28,000
Speaker 12: going to visit China at the end of this month

1826
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Speaker 12: for Security Conference. That will be his first visit to

1827
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Speaker 12: China in eight years this week. Next week, China is

1828
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:39,160
Speaker 12: sending one e their foreign minister to India. They're going

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01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:42,280
Speaker 12: to discuss their border disputes. They're going to try and

1830
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:47,479
Speaker 12: restart cross border trade in the Himalayan regions, and the

1831
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:52,760
Speaker 12: Ramodi has also invited Vadamir Putin to Delhi, which is accepted.

1832
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:56,640
Speaker 12: So at the moment he is focusing really on developing

1833
01:26:56,880 --> 01:27:00,479
Speaker 12: these relationships with these bricks countries. So I think he

1834
01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:04,080
Speaker 12: feels really badly let down by the way in which

1835
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:08,080
Speaker 12: India has been bullied and been treated by the US,

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Speaker 12: considering they are supposed to be strategic allies in the region.

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01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:15,080
Speaker 12: And I think it could take quite a long time

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Speaker 12: to repair that damage because I don't believe India is

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01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:21,280
Speaker 12: going to forgive and forget very quickly.

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01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 2: No, No, I wouldn't think. So, Hey, thank you as always, Peter,

1841
01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:25,880
Speaker 2: will chat you again next week. Look after yourself. That's

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Speaker 2: Peter Lewis, our Asia Business correspondent right now. It's coming

1843
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:32,280
Speaker 2: up nineteen away from seven together do for c Len Right,

1844
01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 2: So here's the full story of what happened. So this

1845
01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:37,599
Speaker 2: woman who has been arrested at the border to Almon Motangui,

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01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:40,600
Speaker 2: forty nine years old. What happened was back in the

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01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:42,920
Speaker 2: day she studied, took out a student loan, paid the

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01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:45,040
Speaker 2: student loan back, but then she decided to go and

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01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:48,200
Speaker 2: study again, and she took a small loan for some

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01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:51,200
Speaker 2: certificates and a diploma. She didn't finish them. Student loan

1851
01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:53,599
Speaker 2: ended up being thirteen thousand dollars. She left and moved

1852
01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:55,719
Speaker 2: to Australia and has been there for twenty one years.

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01:27:56,479 --> 01:28:00,240
Speaker 2: Didn't pay anything for that thirteen thousand dollars, accumulated all

1854
01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:03,439
Speaker 2: of the interest and whatnot and became fifty eight thousand dollars.

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01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:05,960
Speaker 2: IID has tried to get in touch with her. IID

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01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:07,840
Speaker 2: has tried to get in touch with her. IID has

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01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:09,280
Speaker 2: tried to get in touch with her. They haven't been

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01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:11,840
Speaker 2: able to sort this out. She said, oh, paid two

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01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:14,479
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty dollars a fortnight. They were like, nah, bro,

1860
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:16,960
Speaker 2: you got to pay more like seven hundred dollars a fortnight. Actually,

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01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:18,840
Speaker 2: you could settle the whole damn thing, thanks very much.

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01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:22,840
Speaker 2: Couldn't reach a resolution. As a result, IID sent her

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01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:25,799
Speaker 2: a court summons and a court date in New Zealand

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Speaker 2: at the end of this month. She said, okay, cool,

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01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:30,680
Speaker 2: I'll come back for the court date. But between that

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01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:33,519
Speaker 2: summons and the court date later this month, she needed

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01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:36,240
Speaker 2: to nip over here for her niece's birthday. Got here

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01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:40,560
Speaker 2: last Wednesday, went to leave christ Church fly back to

1869
01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:43,880
Speaker 2: the Gold Coast with her family Monday afternoon. Being the

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01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:47,519
Speaker 2: ticket scans triggers an alert. Copper comes over, takes her

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01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:49,880
Speaker 2: passport off her, tells her there's a warrant that has

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01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:52,000
Speaker 2: been issued for her arrest because she's got an overdue

1873
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:55,120
Speaker 2: student loan balance. She's arrested, taken out of the airport,

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01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:58,280
Speaker 2: take into christ Church Central Police Station and has ordered

1875
01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:00,920
Speaker 2: then to appear in christ Church District bought through audio

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01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:04,920
Speaker 2: visual link on Tuesday, which she does. She is still

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01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:07,400
Speaker 2: right now. It's Friday. She's still in christ He she

1878
01:29:07,479 --> 01:29:09,920
Speaker 2: cannot go back to Australia until she and IID reach

1879
01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:14,559
Speaker 2: an agreement. Ird apparently will accept nothing short of payment

1880
01:29:14,720 --> 01:29:17,200
Speaker 2: in full and has told her you need to go

1881
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:19,920
Speaker 2: and borrow money to pay us back. But she cannot

1882
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:22,479
Speaker 2: borrow money because she hasn't worked here for twenty years,

1883
01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:24,559
Speaker 2: so she can't get a bank loan so she's got

1884
01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:27,960
Speaker 2: a lawyer who's trying to navigate the process. I will

1885
01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:30,519
Speaker 2: point you to the fact that we cannot apparently pay

1886
01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:34,720
Speaker 2: the money, but we can afford a lawyer, and we

1887
01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:38,160
Speaker 2: can afford tickets to come here and go back twice.

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01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:44,360
Speaker 2: I'm just saying. Mar Tongui's lawyer, Dave Annanth, said he

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01:29:44,479 --> 01:29:47,160
Speaker 2: didn't deny that his client should have engaged more within

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01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:49,880
Speaker 2: land revenue, but he was taken aback that she had

1891
01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:53,000
Speaker 2: been arrested. I'm a bit surprised about the actual arrest,

1892
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 2: he said, and about the fact that they're not just

1893
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:58,760
Speaker 2: threatening it. So Dave thinks that id just threatens and

1894
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:01,800
Speaker 2: doesn't follow through, and they've followed through. I have dealt

1895
01:30:01,840 --> 01:30:04,839
Speaker 2: with larger loans than this, he said, and longer periods,

1896
01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:07,439
Speaker 2: and as far as I know, there haven't been arrests

1897
01:30:07,479 --> 01:30:11,320
Speaker 2: in those cases. It's not common. It's very very rare. Well, Dave,

1898
01:30:12,920 --> 01:30:14,760
Speaker 2: if you've been following the news, it's becoming more and

1899
01:30:14,840 --> 01:30:18,479
Speaker 2: more common. Actually, now I've looked at this and I've thought,

1900
01:30:18,680 --> 01:30:21,120
Speaker 2: do I feel sorry for her? And no, I do

1901
01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:23,559
Speaker 2: not feel sorry for her. If she had paid back

1902
01:30:23,560 --> 01:30:26,760
Speaker 2: at the two hundred and fifty dollars a fortnight or

1903
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:28,240
Speaker 2: whatever that she wanted to pay. We'll have take new

1904
01:30:28,280 --> 01:30:30,679
Speaker 2: Donkeys years to pay the money back. It's seven hundred

1905
01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:34,360
Speaker 2: dollars a fortnight. It would still take her about three

1906
01:30:34,439 --> 01:30:37,040
Speaker 2: years and three months to pay it back. So you

1907
01:30:37,120 --> 01:30:38,800
Speaker 2: can see like this, we could drag this out for

1908
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:41,160
Speaker 2: what like ten years, or we could get it paid

1909
01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:42,880
Speaker 2: back in three years in a bit, or we could

1910
01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:44,600
Speaker 2: just pay it up front. And I don't know about you,

1911
01:30:44,920 --> 01:30:46,640
Speaker 2: but I think it's quite clear when people have been

1912
01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:49,080
Speaker 2: taking the mickey out of the country, flying back and

1913
01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:50,800
Speaker 2: forth with this massive loan, just being like, ah, the

1914
01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:53,600
Speaker 2: Kiwi's thus suckers, they'll pay for my student loan and

1915
01:30:53,720 --> 01:30:57,000
Speaker 2: they won't want it back. Well, we do want it back.

1916
01:30:57,280 --> 01:30:59,439
Speaker 2: So actually I feel like she could pay before she

1917
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:02,160
Speaker 2: goes home. Do you think sixteen away from seven.

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Speaker 1: Crunching the numbers and getting the results, it's hither du

1919
01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:10,120
Speaker 1: for selan with the business hour and mes for trusted

1920
01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:12,280
Speaker 1: Home insurance solutions news talks.

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Speaker 2: It'd be either if she'd started paying two hundred and

1922
01:31:14,920 --> 01:31:17,080
Speaker 2: fifty dollars from the time she finished studying, it would

1923
01:31:17,080 --> 01:31:20,160
Speaker 2: be all done. So tough to ease Princess thirteen away

1924
01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:22,880
Speaker 2: from seven. Gevin Gray UK correspondents with us Ella Gevin

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Speaker 2: Hi there right, So we've got a couple of boats capsized,

1926
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Speaker 2: have we yes.

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Speaker 14: On the Mediterranean seas trying to make the journey from

1928
01:31:31,800 --> 01:31:34,960
Speaker 14: Libya to Italy. There are sixty survivors, but at least

1929
01:31:35,040 --> 01:31:37,720
Speaker 14: twenty seven have died. There is a search because it

1930
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:40,720
Speaker 14: was reported that well over ninety were on board, so

1931
01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:44,120
Speaker 14: there's a search for probably a handful more people, but

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Speaker 14: that isn't likely to carry on too much longer, quite

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01:31:48,360 --> 01:31:51,759
Speaker 14: simply because the conditions are obviously going to be difficult.

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Speaker 14: It capsized near the Italian island of Lampadusa, and it capsized,

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Speaker 14: and they've been arching during the day yesterday our time,

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Speaker 14: but overnight as well. And it appears that the boats

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Speaker 14: left Libya at a similar time. One capsized and then

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Speaker 14: the people on that boat tried to get on the

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Speaker 14: second boat, leading to the second boat to capsize. But

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Speaker 14: we haven't had that formally announced yet. And according to

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Speaker 14: different agencies, according at least two one twenty five thousand

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Speaker 14: people have gone missing or being killed while trying to

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Speaker 14: cross the central Mediterranean since twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 2: So what is making Kirstama feel so confident about a

1945
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Speaker 2: ceasefire ideal being struck between Putin and Trump.

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Speaker 14: I don't know, because nobody else seems to be that

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Speaker 14: confident about that. But he threw a breakfast meeting for

1948
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Speaker 14: Vladimir Zelenski and it was very, very symbolic. It was

1949
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Speaker 14: the big hug on the doorstep for the cameras, followed

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Speaker 14: by a breakfast in Downing Street garden with the vase

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Speaker 14: full of sunflowers. Of course, the all the symbolism was

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Speaker 14: the flags, the colors, etc. And I think the message

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Speaker 14: is as much to Ukrainians that we are with you

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Speaker 14: as of Vladimir Putin saying we are standing firm, but

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Speaker 14: also to Donald Trump saying, look, you can't just decide

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Speaker 14: something without Ukraine at the table and then say that's

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Speaker 14: what the deal is, take it or leave it sort

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Speaker 14: of attitude, and he's saying that effectively, there is this

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Speaker 14: viable chance of a ceasefire in Ukraine, but Vladimir Putin

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Speaker 14: must prove he is serious about peace. And of course,

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Speaker 14: earlier this week the coalition of the willing European leaders

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Speaker 14: but also other countries from around the world who want

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Speaker 14: to see this war over and think that Russia has

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Speaker 14: to play its part in that massively have issued four

1965
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Speaker 14: different demands, effectively saying there has to be a ceasefire.

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Speaker 14: There has to be one now before any of these

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Speaker 14: negotiations can really get underway.

1968
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Speaker 2: Okay, who actually is responsible for the sausage thin.

1969
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Speaker 14: So there's been a bit of a over who has

1970
01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:07,880
Speaker 14: created the first bratwurst in Germany. Now Bratfurst, for the uninitiated,

1971
01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:11,760
Speaker 14: is a bit like a very large frankfurter, and they're

1972
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Speaker 14: normally made of either pork, beef or even venison at times.

1973
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Speaker 14: And for many many years there's been the virtucule A

1974
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Speaker 14: tavern in Bavaria saying we have the oldest bratfast stand

1975
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Speaker 14: in the world, believing it on the stone bridge in

1976
01:34:29,320 --> 01:34:33,960
Speaker 14: Regensburg to be roughly dating from thirteen seventy eight. However,

1977
01:34:34,200 --> 01:34:41,320
Speaker 14: historians in the neighboring state capital of Thuringia are saying, actually,

1978
01:34:41,439 --> 01:34:45,400
Speaker 14: we found a document dating twelve sixty nine that mentions

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Speaker 14: people who rented a building with a meat roasting stand

1980
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Speaker 14: more than one hundred years earlier than the Regensburg sausage stand.

1981
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Speaker 14: So Thuringia looking to take the crown away that has

1982
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Speaker 14: not pleased the Bavarians, who's saying we're cooking at still

1983
01:35:01,400 --> 01:35:05,200
Speaker 14: and we're got the best ingredients, et cetera. But they're

1984
01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:07,760
Speaker 14: Ingia saying no, well, actually we think it should be us.

1985
01:35:07,840 --> 01:35:11,560
Speaker 14: And indeed it's interesting. The Bavarian towns of Regensburg and

1986
01:35:11,800 --> 01:35:16,240
Speaker 14: Nuremberg both used to claim the oldest sausage stand title. However,

1987
01:35:16,960 --> 01:35:20,880
Speaker 14: a decision was made by formal authorities ruling in Reagan'sburg favor.

1988
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Speaker 14: So it's not the first time this bizarre, bizarre fact

1989
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Speaker 14: has been challenge.

1990
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Speaker 2: The Germans love fighting about food, Devin, thank you. Gavin Gray,

1991
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Speaker 2: UK correspondent, What German? Laura? Laura? What was he said?

1992
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Speaker 2: It was like a big frank, big frank furter, Frank

1993
01:35:36,400 --> 01:35:41,880
Speaker 2: furker furter. I can't say this word. You don't fry

1994
01:35:42,040 --> 01:35:45,879
Speaker 2: frank furter, you boil it. You are So that's the difference.

1995
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Speaker 2: Oh and bravos, Yeah, Brad means to fry, So it's

1996
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Speaker 2: not even the same. What does Kevin know what he's

1997
01:35:56,160 --> 01:35:58,599
Speaker 2: talking about? Hey, by the way, Laura, who's the Minister

1998
01:35:58,720 --> 01:36:03,320
Speaker 2: of student loans? Was it Brooke? Would it be Minister

1999
01:36:03,400 --> 01:36:07,240
Speaker 2: of revenue? Who's the Minister of revenue? Simon Watts. Hey

2000
01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:10,320
Speaker 2: might be Simon what's responsible for all these but there'd

2001
01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:12,040
Speaker 2: be about to be saying it Simon's doing with his

2002
01:36:12,160 --> 01:36:14,120
Speaker 2: life at the moment. Actually, I mean in everything else,

2003
01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:16,439
Speaker 2: it's a bit sort of mediocre. What's going on? The

2004
01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:19,599
Speaker 2: old local government's not great energy. I haven't seen anything

2005
01:36:19,640 --> 01:36:21,720
Speaker 2: going on, but jeez, we're going gangbusters on the old

2006
01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:26,040
Speaker 2: student loan arrests. Heather Beautiful go the IID. There's nothing

2007
01:36:26,080 --> 01:36:28,200
Speaker 2: we like more than getting our money back a because

2008
01:36:28,240 --> 01:36:29,840
Speaker 2: this is how we'd roll in real life, so we

2009
01:36:29,880 --> 01:36:31,719
Speaker 2: would like the government to roll the same with our dollars.

2010
01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:32,639
Speaker 2: Eight away from seven.

2011
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Speaker 1: It's the Heather too for see Allan Drive Full Show

2012
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Speaker 1: podcast on iHeartRadio powered by Newstalk zebby.

2013
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Speaker 2: Listen. I failed to mention this earlier on. This has

2014
01:36:43,920 --> 01:36:46,320
Speaker 2: got to be the sale of the century, like this

2015
01:36:46,479 --> 01:36:50,479
Speaker 2: is this is the bargain of forever. Kaiga Order has

2016
01:36:50,600 --> 01:36:53,240
Speaker 2: just sold an eleven story apartment building in Wellington to

2017
01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:57,600
Speaker 2: the local EWE Taranaki Fanno Limited. It's it's it's the

2018
01:36:57,680 --> 01:37:00,840
Speaker 2: Dixon Street Flats. You might know that they're brutalist, right,

2019
01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:03,000
Speaker 2: so they look like those hideous Gordon Wilson Flats that

2020
01:37:03,040 --> 01:37:06,280
Speaker 2: have just been being slated for demolition, Dixon Street Flats

2021
01:37:06,280 --> 01:37:09,160
Speaker 2: and Wellington eleven stories of them have been used for

2022
01:37:09,240 --> 01:37:11,800
Speaker 2: community housing and like emergency housing and stuff like that.

2023
01:37:12,160 --> 01:37:15,040
Speaker 2: One hundred and seventeen apartments in them. How much do

2024
01:37:15,160 --> 01:37:19,120
Speaker 2: you reckon they sold them for? Remember eleven story building,

2025
01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:23,400
Speaker 2: one hundred and seventeen different units in there. So if

2026
01:37:23,439 --> 01:37:26,760
Speaker 2: you're charging rent, I don't know what are you charging

2027
01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:29,240
Speaker 2: rent nowadays? Five hundred bucks all right? Times five hundred

2028
01:37:29,280 --> 01:37:31,360
Speaker 2: bucks done, one, one seven, that's what you're going to

2029
01:37:31,400 --> 01:37:33,160
Speaker 2: be getting weekly. How much you reckon they paid for them?

2030
01:37:33,360 --> 01:37:34,120
Speaker 2: This is the eway?

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01:37:34,200 --> 01:37:34,679
Speaker 15: How much.

2032
01:37:36,240 --> 01:37:42,519
Speaker 2: One million? One million dollars bargain? I mean, look, it's

2033
01:37:42,600 --> 01:37:45,400
Speaker 2: run down and it's ugly. Let's be honest. You're never

2034
01:37:45,400 --> 01:37:47,000
Speaker 2: gonna get rid of the ugly though, that's just part

2035
01:37:47,000 --> 01:37:49,120
Speaker 2: of the look. It's run down and you're gonna have

2036
01:37:49,160 --> 01:37:50,960
Speaker 2: to do a fair bit of work on it and stuff.

2037
01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:53,519
Speaker 2: But one million bucks is a bargain, isn't it. I

2038
01:37:53,600 --> 01:37:57,360
Speaker 2: mean you you could maybe even maybe I don't know

2039
01:37:57,439 --> 01:37:59,479
Speaker 2: what falling house prices have done in Wellington, but I

2040
01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:01,799
Speaker 2: reckon you'd struggle to get a house in central Wellington

2041
01:38:01,840 --> 01:38:03,479
Speaker 2: for a million bucks. But apparently you can get an

2042
01:38:03,479 --> 01:38:05,840
Speaker 2: eleven story building. How good is that? I mean, if

2043
01:38:05,880 --> 01:38:08,600
Speaker 2: we'd pulled our money together here on this show, we

2044
01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:11,000
Speaker 2: could have bought it, and yet we didn't.

2045
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Speaker 13: Got maths on that. It's so one one seven times

2046
01:38:14,479 --> 01:38:17,920
Speaker 13: five hundred fifty eight, five hundred times fifty two weeks.

2047
01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:20,800
Speaker 13: That's three million a year a year. There's a few.

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01:38:20,960 --> 01:38:23,560
Speaker 13: I mean, obviously you clearly have to probably do some

2049
01:38:23,680 --> 01:38:24,479
Speaker 13: more work on it, but.

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01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:26,600
Speaker 2: You make back in four months what you bought it

2051
01:38:26,720 --> 01:38:27,439
Speaker 2: for exactly.

2052
01:38:27,560 --> 01:38:27,840
Speaker 9: Bargin.

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01:38:28,040 --> 01:38:30,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, j you couldn't get that house.

2054
01:38:31,000 --> 01:38:33,080
Speaker 13: My pool to the pool to the show salary will

2055
01:38:33,120 --> 01:38:36,720
Speaker 13: help too much in buying it. But well, Jason, if

2056
01:38:36,760 --> 01:38:37,880
Speaker 13: we can get care that will be nice.

2057
01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:38,479
Speaker 2: That's amazing.

2058
01:38:38,560 --> 01:38:39,160
Speaker 19: What have you got for it?

2059
01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:39,400
Speaker 16: Now?

2060
01:38:39,400 --> 01:38:42,040
Speaker 13: I've got half a thin. He's announced his debut album,

2061
01:38:42,280 --> 01:38:43,720
Speaker 13: Silo Part that'll come out.

2062
01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:44,960
Speaker 2: Isn't this Tim Sun?

2063
01:38:45,640 --> 01:38:48,519
Speaker 13: Maybe I don't really know, hal Halper thin Yes, okay,

2064
01:38:48,600 --> 01:38:52,320
Speaker 13: character stacks up by the last name October thirty one,

2065
01:38:52,360 --> 01:38:55,680
Speaker 13: that's coming out. This is a single that came out

2066
01:38:55,760 --> 01:38:56,719
Speaker 13: from it yesterday.

2067
01:38:57,520 --> 01:38:58,240
Speaker 2: What is it called?

2068
01:38:58,280 --> 01:39:01,360
Speaker 13: It's called Broken Glass. Enjoy this one.

2069
01:39:01,840 --> 01:39:13,280
Speaker 2: Boost that up? Quickly just crazy. Yeah, that's timpthing, Sun.

2070
01:39:13,760 --> 01:39:14,360
Speaker 2: What do you reckon?

2071
01:39:14,640 --> 01:39:17,720
Speaker 13: We's interesting. I've only hear It's hard to judge on

2072
01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:19,120
Speaker 13: twenty seconds, but I don't hate.

2073
01:39:19,120 --> 01:39:21,400
Speaker 2: It's a bit of his dad in there. Ah, but

2074
01:39:21,479 --> 01:39:22,040
Speaker 2: it's not bad.

2075
01:39:22,160 --> 01:39:24,280
Speaker 13: Actually takes up it for me to like the new music.

2076
01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:26,280
Speaker 13: So she's gone pretty well already.

2077
01:39:26,360 --> 01:39:29,280
Speaker 2: She'll tak Kregren in the year's time. All right, enjoy,

2078
01:39:29,439 --> 01:39:31,080
Speaker 2: We'll see you on Monday. Have a lovely weekend.

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01:39:31,160 --> 01:39:31,559
Speaker 9: This talks.

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Speaker 2: It'd be.

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Speaker 1: For more from Hither Duplessy Alan Drive. Listen live to

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