WEBVTT - On The Front Foot Episode 206: Black Caps claim 'emphatic' win in first Champions Trophy clash 0:00:09.093 --> 0:00:11.973 You're listening to a podcast from News Talk Sat B. 0:00:12.373 --> 0:00:17.693 Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio. 0:00:19.453 --> 0:00:24.493 Take it on as it is out The test is over. 0:00:26.733 --> 0:00:29.733 Couldn't as smokes a beauty It is out. 0:00:30.533 --> 0:00:31.093 Here, you guys. 0:00:31.173 --> 0:00:33.613 Just Delivery has Innum users to Bowl. 0:00:35.853 --> 0:00:39.253 On the front Foot with Brian Ronnell and Jeremy Cody 0:00:39.573 --> 0:00:40.533 powered by News Talk. 0:00:40.573 --> 0:00:43.453 Said B at iHeartRadio. 0:00:46.813 --> 0:00:49.293 Hello, We're back on the front foot. Just like the 0:00:49.333 --> 0:00:53.173 black Cats game one of the Champions Trophy. We analyze 0:00:53.173 --> 0:00:56.293 the outcome and reflect on the previous Winnesday for Pakistan 0:00:56.693 --> 0:01:00.013 and the success in a fifteen a side game against Afghanistan. 0:01:00.413 --> 0:01:02.373 We've also got a chance to recall out one and 0:01:02.413 --> 0:01:06.773 only international tournament title twenty four and a half years ago. 0:01:07.693 --> 0:01:13.133 But THEMS Trophy, what's an emphatic start to that competition. 0:01:13.573 --> 0:01:17.773 Third successive win over Pakistan in their backyard, and the 0:01:17.813 --> 0:01:21.253 third was the most important. It was for real, not 0:01:21.373 --> 0:01:24.533 a warm up game. And that's significant Jeremy Cody, because 0:01:24.533 --> 0:01:29.373 it keeps that confidence up and that winning feeling that 0:01:29.413 --> 0:01:31.973 they are starting to develop and establish. 0:01:32.213 --> 0:01:35.693 Yeah, gooday, I'm a bit knacked from watching it that 0:01:35.733 --> 0:01:36.493 I have to say. 0:01:36.573 --> 0:01:37.013 Last night. 0:01:37.053 --> 0:01:39.813 I don't know how you you managed it, made it. 0:01:40.173 --> 0:01:42.533 I don't know how you're handling the Pakistan ours up 0:01:42.573 --> 0:01:46.973 there in Wellington, but yeah, it was. I enjoyed it. 0:01:47.253 --> 0:01:49.773 I enjoyed it. First point I think I'd like to 0:01:49.773 --> 0:01:54.653 make is the early arrival and in Pakistan and with 0:01:54.653 --> 0:01:57.493 the try series and the warm up game four games. 0:01:58.093 --> 0:02:00.773 I know some of them have toured there recently, and 0:02:00.853 --> 0:02:02.933 some of the young lads, so it's not new to them, 0:02:03.413 --> 0:02:09.133 but it shows and they look match fit to are 0:02:09.133 --> 0:02:12.333 they ready to play? They look as if they're getting 0:02:12.333 --> 0:02:15.093 on with each other too, you know the look they 0:02:15.173 --> 0:02:18.733 look quite content happy. Now that might be winning, well 0:02:18.733 --> 0:02:22.173 that helps, doesn't it. But they look as if they're 0:02:22.213 --> 0:02:24.653 a group. And that's you've got to handle that, I 0:02:24.733 --> 0:02:26.613 guess to the coaching staff. 0:02:27.213 --> 0:02:29.373 And you've got to hand it to Santna. 0:02:30.493 --> 0:02:34.213 I think he looks a chap who's a They feel 0:02:34.333 --> 0:02:38.173 very confident in the decisions that he's making on the field. 0:02:39.253 --> 0:02:41.493 As I say, they're just enjoying each other's company. And 0:02:41.493 --> 0:02:45.013 I think that's really important thing to just mention. Do 0:02:45.093 --> 0:02:46.933 you do you agree with that? Do you think they 0:02:47.013 --> 0:02:47.973 look as if they're getting on? 0:02:48.733 --> 0:02:50.613 Yeah? And That was a point made by Wally Lees 0:02:50.693 --> 0:02:52.893 last week too, wasn't it. You know, you get a 0:02:52.933 --> 0:02:55.573 sense that this is a happy side. They're all on 0:02:55.613 --> 0:02:59.373 the same page, they're all heading the direction and they 0:02:59.413 --> 0:03:03.613 fit in. They're playing sensible cricket. That showed in the 0:03:03.733 --> 0:03:08.773 partnership between Latham and Young, their ability to reast Eberyson 0:03:08.813 --> 0:03:11.893 and eas because for the first twenty five overs they 0:03:11.933 --> 0:03:14.693 weren't looking like three hundred and twenty on the board, were. 0:03:14.573 --> 0:03:18.893 They No, Well, Moose the Traitor. 0:03:19.133 --> 0:03:23.493 Yes, that's Peter Holland, one of our regular contributors. Are Traitor. 0:03:24.133 --> 0:03:28.573 Moose sent me a text yesterday to say, I think 0:03:28.613 --> 0:03:30.453 Pakistan might win this one. 0:03:30.973 --> 0:03:32.413 We've won those other ones. 0:03:32.253 --> 0:03:34.773 So well, and we all know this is a new 0:03:34.853 --> 0:03:38.933 Zealand cricket followers that suddenly the one that matters comes 0:03:38.933 --> 0:03:42.213 along and suddenly someone like fucker Zaman or you know 0:03:42.333 --> 0:03:47.053 Barba or whoever ri Iswan has a magic innings, you know. 0:03:47.293 --> 0:03:50.253 So I must say when we were three down for seventy, 0:03:51.413 --> 0:03:54.533 when Mitchell went out at mid on, I sent him 0:03:54.533 --> 0:03:58.413 a Texas saying here we go, here we go, and 0:03:58.493 --> 0:04:05.733 you're right, we look I thought a busy start. Once 0:04:05.773 --> 0:04:10.613 we were put in on a very dry pitch, and 0:04:10.653 --> 0:04:11.133 you could. 0:04:11.013 --> 0:04:12.413 See that it wasn't easy. 0:04:12.533 --> 0:04:16.733 The variable bounce, you know, and a holding kind of 0:04:16.813 --> 0:04:20.413 surface that you know, if the bowler got it right, 0:04:21.213 --> 0:04:23.173 you had to as a batsman, I think, proceed with 0:04:23.213 --> 0:04:27.133 a bit of caution. If they missed their lenks, yeah, 0:04:27.213 --> 0:04:30.493 or their line. You cashed in if you could. And 0:04:30.573 --> 0:04:33.013 I don't know whether you saw at various times or 0:04:33.013 --> 0:04:36.573 whether you were snoozing was but when the camera's gotten 0:04:36.693 --> 0:04:41.373 close you could see kind of different strips going across 0:04:41.413 --> 0:04:44.053 the pitch, and that normally meant you know, brown on 0:04:44.133 --> 0:04:47.533 the top of the like a corrugation, so that that 0:04:47.653 --> 0:04:49.813 takes the crest off when the moa goes through, and 0:04:49.853 --> 0:04:51.933 so you left with dirt. Then you get into the 0:04:51.973 --> 0:04:57.133 hollow part, you know, and the valley and that's a 0:04:57.133 --> 0:04:59.213 little bit green and the moa doesn't reach that part. 0:04:59.293 --> 0:05:02.933 So you get those strips along a pitch and if it. 0:05:02.933 --> 0:05:05.373 Hits on the upside going up to the top of 0:05:05.413 --> 0:05:08.773 the crest, then the ball goes up and if hits 0:05:08.813 --> 0:05:10.893 in the downside, then it stays down. 0:05:11.013 --> 0:05:13.853 So it wasn't that easy to bat I don't think. 0:05:14.173 --> 0:05:18.053 But a really decent start, I thought really aggressive running 0:05:18.733 --> 0:05:23.653 that I thought also right through the innings just exposed 0:05:24.373 --> 0:05:26.173 the Pakistan outfield. 0:05:25.733 --> 0:05:28.413 As a wee bit, you know, in their movement and 0:05:28.453 --> 0:05:29.093 their throwing. 0:05:32.773 --> 0:05:35.733 But losing those three wickets two quick ones and two 0:05:35.773 --> 0:05:39.773 overs and then a little recovery of eight overs and 0:05:39.773 --> 0:05:43.773 then Mitchell out three for seventy, Latham and Young needed 0:05:43.813 --> 0:05:48.213 to shoulder some responsibility, didn't they, And indeed well they did. 0:05:48.493 --> 0:05:51.853 They did. They took their time. Pakistan were now bowling 0:05:52.213 --> 0:05:52.773 a quick at. 0:05:52.733 --> 0:05:56.413 One end and a spinner at the other, and they 0:05:56.453 --> 0:05:58.973 went for fours at the start. But then by the 0:05:59.013 --> 0:06:01.493 time they had been in for ten overs, they were 0:06:01.493 --> 0:06:04.493 going at seven's and so they were making up for 0:06:04.573 --> 0:06:08.333 lost time. And then the other point I want to 0:06:08.453 --> 0:06:11.853 make about spin, I think the dead batting of spin 0:06:11.973 --> 0:06:15.973 in the past that's hurt New Zealand, particularly against sides. 0:06:16.013 --> 0:06:19.613 It not that Pakistan are the greatest spin bowling units 0:06:19.653 --> 0:06:22.173 at the moment, but it used to hurt New Zealand. 0:06:22.733 --> 0:06:25.413 But that seems to have gone. 0:06:25.453 --> 0:06:30.053 These players nowadays are much more busy. They come at 0:06:30.053 --> 0:06:33.733 the bowler if they're Colonway or they're Williamson and their Mitchell, 0:06:34.733 --> 0:06:38.093 or they might stay deep in their crease if they're Phillips, 0:06:38.133 --> 0:06:41.053 or they're Young, and they hit it square and they 0:06:41.093 --> 0:06:43.893 hit it down the ground, or they sweep and reverse 0:06:43.933 --> 0:06:46.893 sweep like Mitchell does and Latham does and Young does, 0:06:47.533 --> 0:06:50.173 or they go down the ground like Mitchell, you know, 0:06:50.333 --> 0:06:53.253 or they go overcover like Williamson. They've got a range 0:06:53.293 --> 0:06:58.653 of options, these players, and they are finding spin. They 0:06:58.693 --> 0:07:01.853 are not just dead batting at all the time now 0:07:02.613 --> 0:07:05.173 and they are starting to look for runs and they're 0:07:05.173 --> 0:07:07.973 putting pressure on spin bowlers now and that's made a 0:07:08.173 --> 0:07:11.013 very big difference to the side. 0:07:11.453 --> 0:07:14.133 Tom Latham deserved the Man of the Match. I had 0:07:14.173 --> 0:07:17.693 reservations about his place at number five, a key spot 0:07:17.733 --> 0:07:20.733 in the batting order, mentioned it last week, but in 0:07:20.773 --> 0:07:24.733 the last two games he answered criticism the best possible 0:07:24.773 --> 0:07:29.293 way runs match winning runs. To silence his doubters, he 0:07:29.413 --> 0:07:32.653 did an exceptional job with the bat. A man of 0:07:32.693 --> 0:07:34.733 the match and a man of the Match case could 0:07:34.733 --> 0:07:38.773 also have been made for will Young, probably only playing 0:07:39.133 --> 0:07:40.573 in Revender's absence. 0:07:41.653 --> 0:07:47.693 I certainly didn't seem risk free. I suppose one thing 0:07:47.693 --> 0:07:51.093 our betting unit talked about was creating partnerships throughout o 0:07:51.173 --> 0:07:54.093 einence and it was only a small partnership with DEV, 0:07:54.133 --> 0:07:57.253 but we've got the ball rolling. And then unfortunately we 0:07:57.293 --> 0:08:02.973 lost Caine early and Darryll not long after that. So 0:08:03.013 --> 0:08:06.693 Tommy and I talked about obviously building a partnership and 0:08:08.133 --> 0:08:10.813 just felt like, you know, Pakistan got three or four 0:08:10.853 --> 0:08:13.413 dot balls, We managed to get a boundary away not 0:08:13.453 --> 0:08:16.293 long after, and it just kept the mementium of the 0:08:16.333 --> 0:08:21.213 innings going. And then I think we got to where 0:08:21.213 --> 0:08:24.333 we wanted to after thirty overs, and I felt, or 0:08:24.533 --> 0:08:27.573 with Tommy, we both felt that the games and the 0:08:27.613 --> 0:08:30.013 balance at that point at one hundred and forty odds 0:08:30.413 --> 0:08:33.493 for three after thirty overs, I think it was. And 0:08:33.533 --> 0:08:36.933 then from there we had a platform to launch from. 0:08:36.973 --> 0:08:39.933 And obviously the way that Tommy and and GP finished 0:08:40.173 --> 0:08:44.293 innings was just brilliant. Yeah, brilliant to start off the 0:08:44.293 --> 0:08:48.013 the champions Trophy trophy with a win. Just on the crowd, 0:08:48.493 --> 0:08:50.693 they went too quiet, they were they were a really 0:08:50.693 --> 0:08:51.093 good crowd. 0:08:51.133 --> 0:08:52.413 They were noisy throughout. 0:08:52.533 --> 0:08:56.693 So yeah, it's been awesome playing in Pakistan, and yeah, 0:08:56.733 --> 0:08:58.933 hopefully the crowds are the same throughout the tournament because. 0:08:58.733 --> 0:09:02.613 They were brilliant today. Yeah, thank you. 0:09:02.613 --> 0:09:05.213 It meant a great deal to bring up my fourth 0:09:05.213 --> 0:09:08.733 toty one hundred today. As I said before, it's it 0:09:08.813 --> 0:09:10.573 sort of makes it easier if you focus on the 0:09:10.573 --> 0:09:14.573 partnerships that you're in rather than focusing too much about 0:09:15.573 --> 0:09:19.213 your own personal score or anything like that. But yeah, 0:09:19.213 --> 0:09:23.013 in the power play, I think the nature of the 0:09:23.013 --> 0:09:25.253 power play, there's more people in the in the ring, 0:09:25.413 --> 0:09:28.293 so you're gonna hit fields more often, there's gonna be 0:09:28.293 --> 0:09:30.413 more dots. But on the flip side to that, there's 0:09:31.373 --> 0:09:34.173 this opportunity to score some boundaries. And I managed to 0:09:34.173 --> 0:09:36.293 get a fuelway and the power play which sort of 0:09:36.333 --> 0:09:39.973 got my ownings and our innings going. And then through 0:09:39.973 --> 0:09:42.653 the middle it's a different challenge altogether. You know, spinners 0:09:43.653 --> 0:09:47.733 come into it, four fielders out, sort of the gaps. 0:09:47.453 --> 0:09:49.893 Open up and and and you try and score off 0:09:49.933 --> 0:09:53.013 as many balls as you can to keep the momentum going. 0:09:53.173 --> 0:09:57.453 So yeah, very pleased with the way things panned out today. 0:09:57.493 --> 0:10:01.533 And and yeah, have a meaningful contribution on the game 0:10:01.613 --> 0:10:04.133 with with my uh partnership with Tommy. 0:10:05.493 --> 0:10:09.653 To be completely honest with you, Tommy and I knew 0:10:09.693 --> 0:10:10.453 we were in a little bit of. 0:10:10.453 --> 0:10:13.733 Trouble three down, and we didn't wanna look too far ahead, 0:10:13.773 --> 0:10:18.013 did start talking past scores and things like things like that. 0:10:18.053 --> 0:10:19.853 We wanted to get to thirty overs three down. 0:10:20.013 --> 0:10:21.053 That was our first goal. 0:10:22.053 --> 0:10:24.973 Then the next phase was to the thirty fifth over 0:10:25.053 --> 0:10:26.933 and then I got out after that. 0:10:26.973 --> 0:10:30.933 But when when I came off, I think I got 0:10:30.973 --> 0:10:32.093 out in the thirty eighth over. 0:10:33.533 --> 0:10:35.453 I was saying to the boys, I thought, too eighty 0:10:35.573 --> 0:10:39.493 was a a really good total. If the seam has 0:10:39.573 --> 0:10:42.293 hit U a good length. It was difficult, you know, 0:10:42.333 --> 0:10:44.973 the old ball was going down. We saw from the 0:10:45.013 --> 0:10:48.453 Pakistan spinners as well that when they slowed the ball 0:10:48.493 --> 0:10:52.213 up especially, it would hold in the surface and there 0:10:52.253 --> 0:10:54.333 was a bit of turn there and and when they 0:10:55.013 --> 0:10:57.613 they fired it through a little bit quicker it was skiddy. 0:10:57.653 --> 0:11:00.173 So it wasn't easy. And I thought two eighty was 0:11:00.173 --> 0:11:00.733 a good score. 0:11:00.773 --> 0:11:04.053 And obviously the way a GP and Tommy got things going, 0:11:05.773 --> 0:11:07.293 it was just brilliant, the way that they finished off 0:11:07.333 --> 0:11:09.653 the innings and to get to through twenty. We all 0:11:09.693 --> 0:11:12.013 felt that we were slightly ahead of the game at 0:11:12.013 --> 0:11:15.773 that point. But in the same breath as you say, 0:11:15.813 --> 0:11:18.133 Pakistan chased down three fifty on the same wicket, so 0:11:18.133 --> 0:11:20.573 we knew we had to start well and thankfully we 0:11:20.613 --> 0:11:21.053 did that. 0:11:21.013 --> 0:11:22.453 And it managed to keep it going. 0:11:23.133 --> 0:11:26.173 Or even a case for Glenn Phillips as mental match 0:11:26.333 --> 0:11:30.213 he's currently feasting on the Pakistan bowlers during the happy hour. 0:11:30.613 --> 0:11:32.053 Is there something special on the table? 0:11:32.493 --> 0:11:36.053 I wouldn't necessarily say something in particular. I think I'm 0:11:36.093 --> 0:11:38.333 just really clear at the moment and I'm seeing the 0:11:38.373 --> 0:11:41.093 ball really well and I guess being still at the 0:11:41.093 --> 0:11:43.613 point of contact, and I think that goes a long 0:11:43.653 --> 0:11:46.173 way into being able to be a good death death hitter. 0:11:46.853 --> 0:11:48.533 You know, I haven't always got it right in the past, 0:11:48.533 --> 0:11:50.333 but I think I've got a little bit of a 0:11:50.333 --> 0:11:51.053 feel for it at the. 0:11:50.973 --> 0:11:51.813 Moment, which is helpful. 0:11:52.213 --> 0:11:54.813 I think we've had a different pitch and it's played 0:11:54.853 --> 0:11:58.133 a different way every time we've been here. You know. 0:11:58.213 --> 0:12:00.893 We definitely had a lot more spin in the evening again, 0:12:00.933 --> 0:12:02.653 which we found a couple of years ago when we 0:12:02.653 --> 0:12:06.373 were here, you know, but the paces were definitely harder 0:12:06.413 --> 0:12:07.813 to play. I think during the day, you know, the 0:12:07.813 --> 0:12:09.933 balls going up and down a lot. Obviously the way 0:12:11.533 --> 0:12:15.053 Matt Henry and Willow rock Bold was a testament to 0:12:15.533 --> 0:12:19.053 how good they did up there, But I think during 0:12:19.053 --> 0:12:21.173 the day the way the Pakistan boys bowld, especially at 0:12:21.173 --> 0:12:23.133 the top, made it quite tough for us to get 0:12:23.133 --> 0:12:26.373 away early on. So I think we've been really adaptable 0:12:26.413 --> 0:12:28.453 to the different kinds of style of pitch. But it 0:12:28.573 --> 0:12:30.213 was nice to actually see him turn out there in 0:12:30.253 --> 0:12:30.533 the evening. 0:12:31.213 --> 0:12:32.413 Yeah, very lucky for us. 0:12:32.693 --> 0:12:35.373 Obviously, no one never wants to see a player get injured, 0:12:36.013 --> 0:12:38.733 but I think when a player gets injured, they can 0:12:38.733 --> 0:12:41.533 make them really really dangerous. And obviously it showed today. 0:12:41.573 --> 0:12:44.293 You know, he wasn't necessarily able to run, but he 0:12:44.493 --> 0:12:47.453 was still just as powerful as ever. And I think 0:12:47.493 --> 0:12:50.613 we've tried to mix up lines and links up to 0:12:50.653 --> 0:12:52.293 him a little bit and you know, play a bit 0:12:52.293 --> 0:12:54.573 more of a guessing game with him. But hey, obviously 0:12:54.613 --> 0:12:56.733 he's a great player and I'm sure he'll be back 0:12:56.773 --> 0:12:57.533 and fit to go sooner. 0:12:59.093 --> 0:13:02.933 They were the key players, would they lay them Young 0:13:03.293 --> 0:13:06.133 and Phillips? Of course, the RESK played their part as well. 0:13:06.373 --> 0:13:09.293 One of the interesting things that I have sort of 0:13:09.773 --> 0:13:12.613 come across too as watching remember the time when New 0:13:12.693 --> 0:13:15.413 Zealand used to put the opposition in because they didn't 0:13:15.453 --> 0:13:17.973 want to bat first. They almost felt as though they 0:13:17.973 --> 0:13:22.133 weren't capable of batting well. Now they seem comfortable batting 0:13:22.453 --> 0:13:25.333 first or chasing, and I think that that is adding 0:13:25.373 --> 0:13:29.213 to the confidence factor in some of these players. And 0:13:29.613 --> 0:13:31.853 you talk about their ability to play spin. Bowl in 0:13:31.933 --> 0:13:35.573 New Zealand were always reluctant against spin. Yet now they've 0:13:35.573 --> 0:13:38.093 got spinners themselves in the side and they've got an 0:13:38.093 --> 0:13:41.493 attack that's able to do the business, whether it's batting 0:13:41.493 --> 0:13:42.213 first or second. 0:13:42.733 --> 0:13:44.293 YEP, I think that that's right. 0:13:45.693 --> 0:13:50.253 Certainly, when Young went out in the thirty eight Ober 0:13:50.293 --> 0:13:53.093 what was it, one hundred and seven balls for one 0:13:53.133 --> 0:13:54.933 hundred and or one hundred and seven of one hundred 0:13:54.933 --> 0:14:00.573 and thirty something like that. You know that left twelve 0:14:00.653 --> 0:14:06.093 overs of Phillip's You mentioned him to get in not 0:14:06.173 --> 0:14:08.533 only he doesn't have to go hard for from the 0:14:08.573 --> 0:14:11.853 start as if there's two overs left, he's got twelve 0:14:11.933 --> 0:14:13.133 overs that he. 0:14:13.253 --> 0:14:14.093 Can use there. 0:14:14.813 --> 0:14:18.893 And he did do that, and he did mention, didn't 0:14:18.893 --> 0:14:21.093 he that he's seeing the ball and he's staying nice 0:14:21.173 --> 0:14:24.613 and still, and those are very important things, whether you're 0:14:24.613 --> 0:14:25.813 a power hitter or not. 0:14:26.333 --> 0:14:27.293 He is able to get in. 0:14:27.413 --> 0:14:29.813 It was important that he was with Latham, who's his 0:14:29.893 --> 0:14:33.973 red ball captain in the Test cricket poetly keeping him calm, 0:14:34.573 --> 0:14:37.253 and then of course he releases he's only been out once, 0:14:37.333 --> 0:14:40.093 I think when he's actually in Pakistan, hasn't he I mean, 0:14:40.133 --> 0:14:41.053 he's smashed it. 0:14:41.333 --> 0:14:42.053 So he showered. 0:14:42.213 --> 0:14:45.213 He showed his power in that innings towards the end 0:14:45.293 --> 0:14:49.613 there and one hundred and thirteen from the last ten overs. 0:14:49.973 --> 0:14:53.133 It wasn't two seventy five to eighty five. It was 0:14:53.213 --> 0:14:57.373 three twenty on a tricky pitch, you know. I thought 0:14:57.413 --> 0:15:01.933 it was a very finely controlled and thoughtful ODI innings, 0:15:01.973 --> 0:15:04.173 probably one of the best I've seen from New Zealand 0:15:04.733 --> 0:15:08.293 for a long time, and it was always going to 0:15:08.413 --> 0:15:13.173 take a really special individual innings from either Fakar or 0:15:13.293 --> 0:15:16.293 Rizwan or Barbar or some you know, to run that 0:15:16.413 --> 0:15:17.533 kind of total down. 0:15:17.973 --> 0:15:20.853 Yes, Pakistan needed for car, but he got injured, and 0:15:20.893 --> 0:15:23.933 that's one of the aspects of the game. I suppose 0:15:23.933 --> 0:15:25.973 you just have to live with he won't sort of 0:15:26.373 --> 0:15:30.493 play again. I wouldn't imagine. The other thing is New 0:15:30.573 --> 0:15:32.693 Zealand can't really change this side, now, can they. They've 0:15:32.693 --> 0:15:35.813 got Ravendra, They've got Jamison who is in pretty good 0:15:35.813 --> 0:15:38.693 form at the moment. They've got a Duffy who's there. 0:15:38.853 --> 0:15:40.533 They've got Chapman who had a good game in the 0:15:40.573 --> 0:15:43.213 warm up against Afghanistan. I've got players there. But you 0:15:43.253 --> 0:15:47.573 can't change that team now for certainly the next game, can. 0:15:47.453 --> 0:15:51.613 You don't think so odds This is a very short tournament. 0:15:51.973 --> 0:15:55.013 It's a knockout tournament. You've got to get to You've 0:15:55.013 --> 0:15:58.733 only got three in the group stage, three games, so 0:15:58.893 --> 0:16:02.053 you've got to win two. And New Zealand this next 0:16:02.093 --> 0:16:06.213 game in roll Pindi against Bangladesh. There's going to be 0:16:06.253 --> 0:16:10.653 important match and I don't think you would want to 0:16:10.733 --> 0:16:14.933 change that side too much. I'm sure Revenger will be 0:16:15.013 --> 0:16:16.773 keen to try and get back in there. But who 0:16:16.813 --> 0:16:20.093 does he replace? So that's going to be an interesting 0:16:20.133 --> 0:16:23.453 discussion for the selectors. Does he do they replace Conway 0:16:23.453 --> 0:16:27.013 who's got some runs? Do they replay you know, do 0:16:27.093 --> 0:16:31.093 they take Young who's gone one hundred? So well, you see, 0:16:31.093 --> 0:16:34.133 these are these are the issues and so so it's 0:16:34.173 --> 0:16:39.093 a nice problem to have in a way, and so 0:16:39.933 --> 0:16:44.053 you know, I don't know what they'll do about that. 0:16:44.053 --> 0:16:46.013 That's not going to be an easy meeting at all, 0:16:46.053 --> 0:16:50.893 I don't think. But but just very quickly, you know, 0:16:51.013 --> 0:16:56.933 you mentioned New Zealanders have had contributions from lots of people, 0:16:57.013 --> 0:17:01.173 haven't they. You've mentioned the three main ones, and it 0:17:01.253 --> 0:17:04.293 was interesting, wasn't it for me that Young and Latham, 0:17:04.613 --> 0:17:07.013 of all the players, Young and Lathan were probably the 0:17:07.053 --> 0:17:10.333 two men who you most need to join that contribution. 0:17:10.973 --> 0:17:11.933 And there they were. 0:17:11.853 --> 0:17:17.773 Last night actually playing a predominant part of the innings 0:17:17.373 --> 0:17:22.333 and the whole business of it really so yeah, I 0:17:22.373 --> 0:17:26.333 mean New Zealand basically they used to quicks and they 0:17:27.453 --> 0:17:29.573 the Pakistan quicks at the end went for two hundred 0:17:29.573 --> 0:17:33.053 and fourteen at seven's just over sevens then, and the 0:17:33.093 --> 0:17:37.253 spinners even went for over fives, so that was good. 0:17:37.453 --> 0:17:42.053 And listen, to be fair Latham. You mentioned Latham. It's 0:17:42.093 --> 0:17:46.213 a big deal when a number five or a number 0:17:46.253 --> 0:17:50.053 six gets one hundred in an ODI game. You don't 0:17:50.133 --> 0:17:55.093 normally have that opportunity, and it means that you've had 0:17:55.093 --> 0:17:59.053 a you know, a collapse and the pop order to 0:17:59.253 --> 0:18:02.093 enable you to have enough overs to get through. 0:18:02.413 --> 0:18:07.133 But he played very aggressively. He's a good sweeper. He 0:18:07.173 --> 0:18:10.453 gets his head in line, he extends his hands. 0:18:10.093 --> 0:18:12.373 Out towards the ball so he's at the length of 0:18:12.413 --> 0:18:15.653 the ball and he's got a variety of sweets, little 0:18:15.733 --> 0:18:19.693 laps that go far and then hardest weeps that go square. 0:18:20.093 --> 0:18:22.573 He hit it, hit one for six and a couple 0:18:22.613 --> 0:18:26.653 for six actually as well. So he's a difficult custament 0:18:26.693 --> 0:18:29.333 to bowl too. And he's got the reverses as well. 0:18:29.493 --> 0:18:33.373 So terrific effort from him, and he lifted the rate 0:18:33.933 --> 0:18:35.613 and then helped, as I say. 0:18:35.453 --> 0:18:36.573 Philip's get along. 0:18:37.173 --> 0:18:40.813 But yeah, I mean I thought it was a I 0:18:40.853 --> 0:18:43.933 didn't see the whole of the bowling in ings wads. 0:18:44.413 --> 0:18:46.093 I was just going to talk about the bowlers. I think, 0:18:46.213 --> 0:18:49.413 you know, Henry did what Henry does and he's a 0:18:49.453 --> 0:18:52.173 great leader of the attack. A Rourke, to my mind, 0:18:52.613 --> 0:18:56.653 is an amazing asset. You know, the pace, the bounce. 0:18:56.933 --> 0:19:00.413 He's starting to starting to think batsman out too, isn't 0:19:00.413 --> 0:19:04.413 he using the bouncer effectively? And they've got Smith, who 0:19:04.813 --> 0:19:08.053 a new boy on the block, probably needs to tighten 0:19:08.213 --> 0:19:10.693 up a little bit. That will take some time, but 0:19:10.813 --> 0:19:12.653 I think they've got the balance there. And you add 0:19:13.173 --> 0:19:16.733 Jamison and Duffy to the lineup, I think they've got that. 0:19:16.973 --> 0:19:21.493 Along with the bowling of Santana Bracefill, who was getting 0:19:21.493 --> 0:19:24.413 the ball to turn quite sharply and Phillips. They've got 0:19:24.693 --> 0:19:29.333 a nice varied bowling attack that Santa can use. And 0:19:29.373 --> 0:19:33.173 I think he did it perfectly against the Pakistan top order, 0:19:33.173 --> 0:19:35.333 who know the conditions pretty well. 0:19:36.453 --> 0:19:38.573 Held himself back, didn't he. 0:19:38.573 --> 0:19:42.013 He bowled He bought Bracewollan in the eleventh over and 0:19:42.013 --> 0:19:46.213 then he bowled Phillips almost straight away. There was a 0:19:46.293 --> 0:19:49.253 left hander in I think at that stage fuck Zaman 0:19:49.453 --> 0:19:51.733 was in. Why did he come in at four? I 0:19:51.773 --> 0:19:53.973 know he had to come out later because of his injury, 0:19:54.813 --> 0:19:59.453 but if he couldn't run a single, which is you 0:19:59.493 --> 0:20:01.973 could see that he just I mean not only for 0:20:02.013 --> 0:20:04.533 his own not only for his own total, and he 0:20:04.613 --> 0:20:06.733 only got he got a twenty odd, didn't he? But 0:20:06.773 --> 0:20:09.253 he couldn't run the other bats, and that he couldn't 0:20:09.293 --> 0:20:13.133 run his two's, So why didn't they leave him down 0:20:13.173 --> 0:20:14.013 until the slogging? 0:20:14.493 --> 0:20:17.413 You know time they had a couple of useful hitters, 0:20:17.453 --> 0:20:17.893 didn't they. 0:20:18.613 --> 0:20:22.293 Yeah, Kushtild got a sixty odd, didn't he? And I 0:20:22.293 --> 0:20:25.893 think I was at Salman got a forty. So yeah, 0:20:25.973 --> 0:20:28.053 know that helped them and that'll keep their net run 0:20:28.133 --> 0:20:29.453 rate a little bit better, I guess. 0:20:29.973 --> 0:20:33.053 But you know, I just wondered whether fuck I. 0:20:32.973 --> 0:20:35.933 Should have actually been left a little bit later in 0:20:36.013 --> 0:20:40.893 case they got close and when he could just slog, 0:20:41.373 --> 0:20:44.093 you know, because he was he couldn't run really. 0:20:45.013 --> 0:20:49.133 And he wasn't able to pass the strikeover to Baba Adahm, 0:20:49.213 --> 0:20:52.013 who was obviously wanting it. But you know, he was 0:20:52.053 --> 0:20:54.733 then getting tied down because you couldn't afford to take 0:20:54.773 --> 0:20:58.093 too many risks. He couldn't play any free range shots 0:20:58.653 --> 0:21:01.613 and that cost them and New Zealand exploited it. Well, 0:21:01.733 --> 0:21:04.533 that's why he was full of credit for Santa and 0:21:04.573 --> 0:21:07.853 his captaincy and the bowling changes and feeling changes he made. 0:21:07.853 --> 0:21:10.013 I thought they were outstanding. 0:21:11.533 --> 0:21:14.493 He's a smart He's a smart captain. Was he's a 0:21:14.533 --> 0:21:15.293 smart captain? 0:21:16.453 --> 0:21:18.013 Yeah, I quite agree. 0:21:18.773 --> 0:21:23.173 And the players are with him because that they know 0:21:23.413 --> 0:21:27.493 Baba doesn't sweep, and so he could bowl two off spinners, 0:21:28.973 --> 0:21:31.613 taking the ball away from Fakar at that stage, so 0:21:31.773 --> 0:21:34.893 that was always a chance as the ball leaves him 0:21:35.213 --> 0:21:38.293 and then to Baba who doesn't sweep. He just plays 0:21:38.333 --> 0:21:45.053 a forward defense sixty four off ninety Baba. Why so, Timid, 0:21:45.453 --> 0:21:47.573