1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: There is a plan to potentially boost our fuel storage capacity. 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: The Herald's Wellington business editor, Genative Cheriney has been looking 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: into this and is with us Hygiena Hi Heather. So 4 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: this is a plan that seems to have been pitched 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: by Channel Infrastructure, the ones who run the Marsden Point 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: oil refinery. Now they want to potentially increase their their 7 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: capacity for storage. 8 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's right. Currently they have storage for about 9 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 2: three hundred million liters of fuel, but they also have 10 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: these tanks that are sitting there empty that could potentially 11 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: hold another three hundred and fifty million liters of fuel, 12 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: so pretty much it could potentially double its storage capacity. 13 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 2: The issue is, and this is what Channel has been 14 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 2: talking to the government about, is that those empty tanks 15 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,599 Speaker 2: need to be refurbished and that would be a costly 16 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 2: and a time consuming process. But Channel has started talking 17 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 2: to the government to update them. Well, actually, if you know, 18 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 2: if the situation arises, we could look to you know, 19 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 2: get those tanks in a state so that they could 20 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 2: could hold more fuel from what I can gather as 21 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 2: it stands with the regulations and things in place at 22 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: the moment, that process could take about a year. To 23 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: eighteen months. So that's not going to solve the problem 24 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 2: here and now, but it seems like a worthy discussion 25 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 2: to have. You know, should we create more capacity to 26 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 2: hold more fuel because at the moment, the way things run, 27 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 2: it's pretty tight. Yeah. 28 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: Does it sound like they want government funding? 29 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 2: So Channel hasn't directly asked for government funding, but it has, 30 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 2: I guess in updating the government on where it's at 31 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 2: and what it would cost to get these empty tanks refurbished. 32 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 2: You know, I'm sure it would welcome some government funding. 33 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 2: Shane Jones talk Term today, you know, and he's across this. 34 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 2: He said he genuinely, genuinely believed we needed more storage 35 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 2: in New Zealand, but you know, he needs to work 36 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,679 Speaker 2: with finance mister Nicola Willis on that. And I talked 37 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 2: to Nicola Willis and she was pretty hesitant to suggest 38 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: the government was prepared to fork out to help refurbish 39 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 2: these tanks. You know, she said, well, Channel is a 40 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 2: commercial company, and you'd expect fuel importers like z Energy 41 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: and etc. To pay for the storage. That's currently how 42 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 2: it works. But you know, I feel like this is 43 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 2: a space to watch and the other thing they're looking 44 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 2: at is the regulations because as it stands at the moment, 45 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 2: you need like a bunt, like from what I can understand, 46 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 2: it's like a big wall or something around the tanks 47 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 2: to make sure the fuel doesn't leak. But building that 48 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 2: is the problem. So you know, could they loosen up 49 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 2: the rigs to get these tanks refurbished more quickly. 50 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: It's not like this is our only option, right because 51 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: when Methodex eventually shuts down, those tanks become available, don't they. 52 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Now that's another thing that Shane Jones said 53 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 2: he took to the Port Tutanucky CEO about there could 54 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 2: be some storage capacity there. So you know, officials are 55 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 2: looking at this as well. From MB they're advising ministers. 56 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 2: It seems like there are a lot of public servants 57 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 2: running around talking to industry trying to you know, get 58 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 2: their heads around the levers that can be pulled. So 59 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 2: this might be something that needs to be fixed. Looking 60 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 2: further down the track, it's hard to see, you know, 61 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 2: it's hard to see these these tanks getting refurbished quickly. 62 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 2: But you know, who knows how long this whole thing 63 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 2: is going to drag on for? 64 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: Thank you was always really appreciate it, Joe, we'll talk 65 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: to you next week. 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