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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story.

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Speaker 2: It's hither duplicy Ellen, drive with one New Zealand let's

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Speaker 2: get connected.

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Speaker 1: Youth fulk said, be.

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Speaker 3: Hey, good afternoon, welcome to the show coming up today.

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Speaker 3: The electricity Authority is going to try it well, we're

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Speaker 3: going to try and ask them what happened to that

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Speaker 4: Though?

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Speaker 3: With us after five? David Seymour on when we can

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Speaker 3: expect that a cancer drug funding announcement? If it all frankly,

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Speaker 3: and I'll explain why. Also the chiefs Assistant Coach David

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Speaker 3: Hill on that big Super Rugby final tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Hither duplicy Ellen?

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Speaker 3: Well, Transpower has given us a masterclass and how to

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Speaker 3: look guilty, hasn't it? How to look like it was

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Speaker 3: actually your fault? I mean, come on, who doesn't now

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Speaker 3: think that what happened to that powerpole or that power

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Speaker 3: pilon is that the crew that we're working there took

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Speaker 3: the bolts out of the leg which caused the thing

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Speaker 3: to fall over, which caused the entire region of North

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Speaker 3: to lose power. Who doesn't think that that is exactly

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Speaker 3: what happened? And why do we think that? Because Alison

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Speaker 3: Andrew the chief executive sounded as guilty as all hell

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Speaker 3: in her media interviews this morning. I didn't want to

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Speaker 3: Have to focus on the power restoration. I mean, calme

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Speaker 3: on no one in twenty twenty four, when modern communication

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Speaker 3: their phone umber give them a phone. No one believes

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Speaker 3: that Alison Andrew does not already know what happened. Of

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Speaker 3: course she does. If she doesn't know what already, if

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Speaker 3: she doesn't already know it, then she sucks at her job.

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Speaker 3: Because in any decent organization, the first thing that happens

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Speaker 3: when there is a major snappho, and this is a

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Speaker 3: And the reason they do that is because if there

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Speaker 3: is a bigger problem that can accelerate or repeat, they

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Speaker 3: need to know what happens so they can stop it

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Speaker 3: from happening. Right so they will know they will have

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Speaker 3: called the person there and been like, what happened? And

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Speaker 3: they know what happened and you cannot tell me that.

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Speaker 3: Alis and Andrew, the chief executive, was like, oh did

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Speaker 3: you call them?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Now don't tell me. Nah, no, no, no interest,

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Speaker 3: and no I'm gonna wait for that. No, it's not helpful.

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Speaker 3: I'll wait for the investigation. No one can tell me.

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Speaker 3: Alison and Andrew did not herself want to know what

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Speaker 3: happened for the same reason, to stop it from happening again.

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Speaker 3: If there was a problem going on, if she's all

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Speaker 3: didn't she just fess up? This morning? She multiple interviews

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Speaker 3: and it just looks so guilty. Why did she do that?

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Speaker 3: Because right now we you and I are at peak

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Speaker 3: interest because it's just happened, and because not everyone's got

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Speaker 3: all super interested right now. But fast forward two weeks.

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Speaker 3: Fast forward two months fast forward. God only knows how

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Speaker 3: together do to see Ellen Electricity Authority with us after five?

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Speaker 3: Right now, it's ten past four and by the way,

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Speaker 5: To, five four three two wine cida.

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Speaker 3: This morning, rocket Lab successfully launched its fiftieth mission using

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Speaker 3: their Electron rocket. It makes rocket Lab the fastest get this,

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Speaker 3: than even Elon Musk SpaceX. Morgan Connatant is the vice

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Speaker 3: Hay Morgan, Hello, it's fifty. A big deal in the

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Speaker 6: It's bigger than you might realize. Getting to one launch

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Speaker 6: And to get to fifty faster than anyone else, it

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Speaker 6: US and space X that's it.

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Speaker 3: And how many of Elon Musk done fifty as well?

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Speaker 6: Definitely more than fifty, but they're into a couple of

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Speaker 6: which is a much larger, larger rocket designed to compete

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Speaker 3: More so, how how quickly did you guys do it?

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Speaker 6: Seven years and twenty seven days off by a day or.

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Speaker 3: Two, okay, and how how quickly did Elon Musk do it?

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Speaker 6: A couple of years longer than that?

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Speaker 3: Really? So it's actually quite significant, isn't it.

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Speaker 6: It's it really is. And I think, you know, typical Kiwis,

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Speaker 6: You know, New Zealander's achievements are on the global scale

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Speaker 3: Classic. That's also a good thing, though, isn't it, Because

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Speaker 6: And look, you know, it's it's kind of a beautiful thing.

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Speaker 7: Really.

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Speaker 6: There was time when a launch stopped the whole company.

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Speaker 6: It was massive news and it was all we could

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Speaker 3: Morgan, who gets to name the rocket?

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Speaker 6: Well, it's a team effort. So sometimes our customers put

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is it an excellent name. What's it doing

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Speaker 6: So these are Internet of Things satellites, which basically satellites

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Speaker 6: You don't need to drive three hours today. And that's

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Speaker 3: What do you reckon is the future for space industry

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Speaker 6: Well, it's it's a multi trillion dollar industry really in

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Speaker 6: not actually so much from launch, believe it or not,

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Speaker 6: You need the ride, which is the rockets we've got.

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Speaker 6: But the real important but here is the data that

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Speaker 6: It could be any number of things, and that's really

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Speaker 3: Yeah, brilliant stuff. Hey, well done, and thank you so

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Speaker 3: much for your time. Morgan Morgan Cone and vice president

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Speaker 3: of marketing and Communications Rocket Lab. Somebody needs to text

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Speaker 3: Morgan's mum and tell her it's actually quite a big deal.

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Speaker 3: This one is. This one's worth getting excited about making.

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Speaker 3: Maybe baking a cake or something like that. The rumors

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Speaker 3: were true, by the way, it's been confirmed. The deadline

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Speaker 3: key WE footballer is off to an EPL club. This

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Speaker 3: Nottingham Forest. Not going to play I think for Nottingham Forest.

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Speaker 3: At the outset this is where Chris Wood, another key

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Speaker 3: to be loaned to another club that shares the owner

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Speaker 3: or something like that. But regardless, nine point six million dollars,

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Speaker 3: how good is that? If you're into football, if you're

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Speaker 3: a we one and you're playing the football at the moment,

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Speaker 3: keep playing the football because you can become a rich

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Speaker 3: guy as well over there, I mean obviously, and you

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Speaker 3: can also enjoy the game. Sixteen past four.

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Speaker 2: Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's hither duper c

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Speaker 2: Allen Drive with one New Zealand one Jay of Leaf

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Speaker 2: for Business Ustalks.

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Speaker 3: Jason Pine Sports Talk Hoasters with me right now, Hey Piney,

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Speaker 3: Hello Heather more accurately described as the weekend sport host

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Speaker 3: because that's the capacity we're talking to you in, because

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Speaker 3: we've got the weekend sport. Who's going to win the

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Speaker 3: Super Rugby Final tomorrow night?

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Speaker 10: To Poney, I think Blues. I think the Blues will win,

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Speaker 10: So please everybody rush out and put your money on

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Speaker 10: the Chiefs. If my records anything to go by, I

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Speaker 10: think the Blues seem to have a lot stacked in

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Speaker 10: their favor. They're at home, got the extra day after

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Speaker 10: their semi final win, which was a lot easier than

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Speaker 10: the Chiefs, went over the Hurricanes a night later. They've

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Speaker 3: Electricity Authority is one of the lot that started an investigation.

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Speaker 1: Need, It's beautiful season, hard questions, strong opinion.

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Speaker 2: Ever dupice allan drive with one New Zealand let's get

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Speaker 1: Well, he's drinking night, you're thank him about me when.

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Speaker 2: You're riding where he's driving now, you miss lave streat Devin.

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Speaker 11: You see when you're.

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Speaker 13: Faith and drinking.

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Speaker 3: Hey, by the way, just a little thing for next week.

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Speaker 3: Do you realize the All Blacks captain is going to

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Speaker 3: Russian President Vladimir Putin says he might provide some weapons

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Speaker 5: It is incredibly concerning.

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Speaker 3: It would.

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Speaker 5: Destabilize the Korean peninsula, of course, and potentially give it

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Speaker 3: The boss of News Corps in Australia has accused Meta

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Speaker 14: Meta is preparing to blackmail not just us in the

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Speaker 14: news industry, but I'll say you as a government, it

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Speaker 14: is getting ready to say if you dare designate us

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Speaker 14: under the Media Bargaining Code, we will punish you by

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Speaker 3: And finally absolute bang am I right?

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Speaker 15: Yes?

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Speaker 3: John bon Jovi has been accused of selling fake autographs.

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Speaker 3: Fans who bought the signed copies of bon Jovi's latest

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Speaker 3: same and an autograph authenticatus is Yeah, they were clearly

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Speaker 3: few fans still want their money back.

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Speaker 2: International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of Mind,

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Speaker 3: Mischison, US correspondence with US Higden. Hey, hither so this

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Speaker 16: still face charges, and so you asked, well, what kind

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Speaker 16: of evidence were they looking for? You kind of wonder

436
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Speaker 16: about these were people who entered the building without permission, unlawfully,

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Speaker 16: they barricaded themselves inside. They were forcibly removed by policeness.

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Speaker 16: All has to do, of course, with the dozens that

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Speaker 16: were arrested at Columbia University's Hamilton Hall during the pro

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Speaker 16: Palestine protest about a month or so ago. So what

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Speaker 16: they're saying is that the district Attorney's office has declined

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Speaker 16: to prosecute cases where they get a large number of

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Speaker 16: people who were arrested as part of civil disobedience. So

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Speaker 16: the judge said, okay, we're dismissing thirty of these cases.

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Speaker 16: These people have no criminal history, and I guess part

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Speaker 16: of the reason is the prosecutors had just limited video evidence.

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Speaker 16: They said, the security cameras were covered by certain people

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Speaker 16: as soon as it started, and prosecutors can identify everybody.

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Speaker 16: So that's kind of where the difficult part comes in.

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Speaker 3: Right, what's up with these Mexican ca tels.

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Speaker 16: You know this. There are tunnels, there are who knows

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Speaker 16: how many tunnels between Mexico and the United States. But

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Speaker 16: this is a tunnel that reaches from part of Mexico

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Speaker 16: into El Paso, Texas, where illegals are charged up to

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Speaker 16: fifteen thousand dollars or more to come into the country.

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Speaker 16: And apparently now the cartels are offering what has been

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Speaker 16: dubbed VIP packages. They have everything functions by codes. These days,

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Speaker 16: the cartels give their VIP customers and they're delivered by

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Speaker 16: cell phones, so that identifies which cartel you can call

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Speaker 16: them a travel agency a migrant is working with. So

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Speaker 16: whether you're a local police officer or your rival criminal gang,

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Speaker 16: you know not to harass these people. And I guess

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Speaker 16: the way they get through is a lot more comfortable.

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Speaker 16: And experts say the return on investment on trafficking humans

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Speaker 16: has actually overtaken you know, drugs over here. They say,

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Speaker 16: a quelo of cocaine, my get you fifteen hundred dollars,

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Speaker 16: a little more, a little.

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Speaker 1: Less, but the risk is high.

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Speaker 16: The cost benefit of trafficking a person is anywhere from

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Speaker 16: ten to twelve maybe fifteen thousand dollars. So they're coming

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Speaker 16: from all over around the world. Some are even paying

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Speaker 16: seventy five thousand dollars from China to get.

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Speaker 11: Into the US.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the interesting thing about the people from China

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Speaker 3: is they're actually middle class, aren't they. It's not like, well,

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Speaker 3: it's not people who you would consider necessarily be super desperate.

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Speaker 16: No, no, they're not. And these are people that have

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Speaker 16: to have that kind of money. I mean, the people

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Speaker 16: that are coming up from the southern part of the

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Speaker 16: Mexico here, they just don't have that because you have

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Speaker 16: to grease the palms of so many people. There's officers

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Speaker 16: and border patrol and police and the people who transport them,

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Speaker 16: the cartels. So I mean, this is kind of what

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Speaker 16: I look at as a perfect example of a trickle

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Speaker 16: down economy because it involves almost you know, a thousand

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Speaker 16: people a month at this one crossing, but you go

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Speaker 16: through dozens of people to get there.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, what's happened with the cyber tag.

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Speaker 16: They're still trying to figure this out. There's this company

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Speaker 16: that provides car dealerships across the US and at North

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Speaker 16: in Canada with software and it manages sales and services

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Speaker 16: and they've been hacked. So that prompted the company to

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Speaker 16: shut down most of its symptoms or systems rather on Thursday,

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Speaker 16: and this impacted about fifteen thousand dealerships for making sales

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Speaker 16: and big companies like General Motors. So they thought they

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Speaker 16: had a handle on it yesterday, happened again today and

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Speaker 16: the companies are now saying this outage could affect dealerships

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Speaker 16: for days. So you're talking about a data breach hack

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Speaker 16: that could cost you know, dealerships around the country here

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Speaker 16: and not to mention exporting to other countries hundreds of thousands,

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Speaker 16: if not millions of dollars. And this is, you know,

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Speaker 16: something that we're seeing happen more and more frequently over here.

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Speaker 3: Dan, thank you for running us through and joy your weekend. Mate.

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Speaker 3: That's Dan Mitchinson, now US correspondent. Hey, that the picture

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Speaker 3: of the power tower's foot PowerTower power pylon's foot I've seen,

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Speaker 3: assuming it's legit, I think it is legit. I'm looking

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Speaker 3: at the same photograph on Reddit has about eight holes,

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Speaker 3: so surely no one would remove all eight bolts. Surely,

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Speaker 3: and yet they did. And yet they did, didn't they

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Speaker 3: In a theory that we are promulgating at the moment

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Speaker 3: they tell you what though, it does raise some questions

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Speaker 3: about the security of the network, doesn't it like if

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Speaker 3: because you can just wander up to these pylons, if

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Speaker 3: you were stupid enough and bored enough, right, and if

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Speaker 3: these guys could just go like sixteen times or eight

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Speaker 3: times or whatever it is, and there you go. Jez

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Speaker 3: It makes you wander anyway, won't be giving anybody ideas.

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Speaker 3: But it doesn't fill you with a lot of confidence,

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Speaker 3: does it. Anyway? The Electricity Authority is going to be

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Speaker 3: with us after five o'clock, tell us what they think

522
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Speaker 3: has happened there now, as you know, the decision on

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Speaker 3: the thirteen cancer drugs that National now has to keep

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Speaker 3: the promise on is going to go to Cabinet on Monday.

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Speaker 3: They are considering three ways to make there's a total cluster.

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Speaker 3: They should never have promised to the thirteen cancer drugs

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Speaker 3: because we've got over the head of far Mac and

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Speaker 3: you never do that right. They are considering three options

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Speaker 3: for how to fix this situation. The first one is

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Speaker 3: that they tell Farmac you've got to buy those thirteen drugs.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: They cannot do that. They will not be a preferred

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Speaker 3: option because far Mac is supposed to be independent. You

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Speaker 3: don't tell farm Mac what to buy. That's the whole

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Speaker 3: point of farmacs. So you could basically go scratch. They're

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Speaker 3: not going to do that. The second way that they

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Speaker 3: could do it is they could set up a separate agency,

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Speaker 3: not Farmac, just another agency to buy the thirteen cancer drugs.

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Speaker 3: That's a possibility, and it did happen during COVID, so

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Speaker 3: they could do it again with the COVID drugs. They

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Speaker 3: could do it, but it's set a really really bad precedence,

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Speaker 3: so it's not the favored option. The third option, which

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Speaker 3: sounds like the most likely one at this stage, is

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Speaker 3: that they could give Farmac a pool of money to

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Speaker 3: work through its wish list until the drugs are funded.

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Speaker 3: Now that is a really bad option because there is

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Speaker 3: no It could be years. I mean, how long is

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Speaker 3: that wish list? How much money? How long is the

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Speaker 3: wish list? How long is it going to take Farmac

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Speaker 3: to work its way all down that list before they

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Speaker 3: finally get to these thirteen drugs, some of which are

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Speaker 3: not even on the wish list. Like literally, if they

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Speaker 3: choose option three, it's just breaking the promise. All over again.

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Speaker 3: So anyway, I don't quite know how the square this circle.

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Speaker 3: David Seymore is going to be with us a ten

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Speaker 3: past five. We'll ask him about that. Barry Soper's next

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Speaker 3: sixteen away.

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Speaker 2: From five Politics with Centrics credit, check your customers and

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Speaker 2: get payments, certainty.

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Speaker 3: Barry Soper, Senior political correspondence with US Now, Hay Barry,

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Speaker 3: good afternoon, Heather guilty just transpower, Well, I'll tell you.

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Speaker 12: Simeon Brown was up in fun array today. He's ordered

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Speaker 12: the Electricity Authority to review the collapse of the pylon,

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Speaker 12: and he also said that the government may consider setting

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Speaker 12: up an independent inquiry. I'm gonna I'm going to volunteer

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Speaker 12: to head that inquiry because I could tell them what

567
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Speaker 12: happened now, money for Jim, Yeah, and then take three

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Speaker 12: months like they always do with inquiries. And as you say,

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Speaker 12: it's money for Jim, you only have to look at it,

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Speaker 12: and you don't have to be an engineer. You have

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Speaker 12: to have a little bit of common sense. Not even

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Speaker 12: that I've studied the pylon and the two plates that

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Speaker 12: are in the ear that once held the pile. On

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Speaker 12: one side of it, there are sixteen holes still very

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Speaker 12: clean and I'll tell you bolts, yes, exactly, if they

576
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Speaker 12: had wrenched out of the ground, the bolts, these plates

577
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Speaker 12: would be severely damaged. But they're in perfect conditions. So

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Speaker 12: inquiry overdone.

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Speaker 3: And I mean it's a pity. It's a pity for

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Speaker 3: Allison Andrew and her attempt to avoid answering that question

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Speaker 3: today that this entire country is made up of di

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Speaker 3: wires and we pretty much understand how that works.

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Speaker 12: You have to look suggesting your listeners and are unsure

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Speaker 12: about it, can't have a look a photograph.

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Speaker 9: Now.

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Speaker 12: It did knock out though power to one hundred thousand users,

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Speaker 12: and that's significant. Thirty thousand was still off still in

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Speaker 12: the dark last night. You imagine if you had a

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Speaker 12: freezer full of food and you're still out of power, you'd.

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Speaker 3: Be a bit concerned of the ice cream there.

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Speaker 12: Brown was there, as I said today, and he said

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Speaker 12: the event was totally unacceptable.

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Speaker 17: Everyone's been doing their bit, but to be honest, as

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Speaker 17: complete unacceptable what happened yesterday. You know, a pylon should

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Speaker 17: not just fall down. You know, that is something that

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Speaker 17: should not happen in New Zealand outside of a major

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Speaker 17: type of event. So we need to get to the

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Speaker 17: bottom of what happened, understand the facts. There needs to

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Speaker 17: be accountability for that and appropriate actions to follow those reviews.

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Speaker 17: Transpasmatical people were working on that particular pylon at the time.

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Speaker 17: There's an investigation in a way in regards to what

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Speaker 17: Transpower is doing, but look, we're looking at some of

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Speaker 17: the wider issues as well, and we want to make

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Speaker 17: sure that there is appropriate accountability.

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Speaker 12: So I wonder what form that will take. You shouldn't

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Speaker 12: take bolts out of plates holding pilon.

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Speaker 3: I feel like somebody may need to go and find

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Speaker 3: a new job, you know what I mean, one that

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Speaker 3: doesn't involve drills. Okay, now what does what do they

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Speaker 3: do about the cancer drugs? How do they get them purchased?

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Speaker 12: Well, like you said that they will the ministers consider

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Speaker 12: it on Monday, and I would imagine that National is

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Speaker 12: ruing the day that it made the promise during the

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Speaker 12: election campaign that it would fund these thirteen drugs. So

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Speaker 12: you know, you've outlined the three options. I've talked to

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Speaker 12: people in the industry today and it seems that what

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Speaker 12: will happen on Monday, a considerable amount of money will

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Speaker 12: be offered. What not offered, it would be given to Farmac.

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Speaker 12: Six hundred million dollars they're talking about.

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Speaker 10: And.

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Speaker 12: You can imagine behind the scenes, and again this doesn't

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Speaker 12: take a rocket scientist, but behind the scenes, the government

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Speaker 12: will make it clear that some of this money and

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Speaker 12: I know they've got lists, and you're absolutely right, Farmac,

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Speaker 12: but they would I think Farmac would be ignoring reality

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Speaker 12: if it didn't realize what the government would want to chase.

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Speaker 3: Here are you suggesting that the government's going to save them,

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Speaker 3: here's six hundred million dollars for you, Farmac, you wonderful

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Speaker 3: independent agency thing that we tell them to do by

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Speaker 3: the drugs.

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Speaker 12: Yep, absolutely, and I think that's what will happen.

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Speaker 3: And Sarah fit because she's so desperate to keep her

633
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Speaker 3: job and not be fired when she's tell us And

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Speaker 3: of course, are you then also suggesting that having Paula

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Speaker 3: Bennett a friendly on the board would be quite helpful.

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Speaker 12: Absolutely? So okay, yep, So we'll see it. It'll be

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Speaker 12: good because people that desperately need these cancer drugs, right,

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Speaker 12: we'll finally get them.

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Speaker 3: The Darling Tana allegation, I think is the most the

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Speaker 3: most interesting thing about it is that there are text

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Speaker 3: messages which show that she was involved in the hiring

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Speaker 3: of people on visas that are a little bit dodgy,

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Speaker 3: and it ties her to what was going on.

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Speaker 12: Well not even a little bit dodgy. I mean, there

645
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Speaker 12: was a worker that was on a seasonal work visa,

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Speaker 12: which limits workers to being involved in the horticulture and

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Speaker 12: viticultural industries. But she said in these texts that the

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Speaker 12: worker should in fact stay on in the bike shop

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Speaker 12: her husband was running, and even during the COVID lockdown,

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Speaker 12: as she said it was essential work. I don't know

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Speaker 12: why electric bikes are essential work during the COVID lockdowns,

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Speaker 12: but nevertheless that apparently was said. She's now been what

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Speaker 12: over three months off work on full pay. I think

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Speaker 12: the Greens are really, I don't know, going beyond any

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Speaker 12: tolerance the public should have of them here because you know,

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Speaker 12: this length of time, rachel Bert will be having a ball.

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Speaker 12: She's a barrister and she's associated now well yeah, and

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Speaker 12: associated with the Green Party. And this has dragged on

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Speaker 12: for far too long. I've constantly texted Chloe Swarbrick. She

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Speaker 12: did reply to me up until the point.

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Speaker 3: And she's ghosting you now.

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Speaker 12: It's basically the muss will be texting myself because I

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Speaker 12: get no reply to Chloe.

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Speaker 3: It's getting ally so thank you, Barry, appreciate it. We'll

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Speaker 3: rap the political week that was quarter past six of

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Speaker 3: you again. That's very so for senior political correspondent. Seven

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Speaker 3: away from five.

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Speaker 2: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers. The Mike Hosking.

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Speaker 1: Breakfast, Finance Minister Nicola Willis is with us.

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Speaker 8: What we are seeing in our forecast is that this

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Speaker 8: is kind of what there is is banks if they

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Speaker 8: were engineering, if they wanted to see the slowdown, well

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Speaker 8: this is a slowdown and what we want to see

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Speaker 8: is productive growth coming back into the economy.

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Speaker 12: What you've just outlined a big picture of things. You're

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Speaker 12: asking New Zealand is to endure a very long period

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Speaker 12: of very difficult times.

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Speaker 8: I'm also delivering things this year. I think it is

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Speaker 8: really important that text reduction is coming at the end

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Speaker 8: of July. That is sunlight and what would otherwise be

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Speaker 8: a very challenging winter.

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Speaker 18: Back Monday from six am The Mike Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 18: Jaguine News Talk z B.

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Speaker 3: Four away from five years. I've almost forgotten. I need

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Speaker 3: to get you across the knobby Clark situation in the

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Speaker 3: Cargo Nobby Clark. There have been calls for him quit

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Speaker 3: as the Vicargo mayor basically because he's embarrassing the city.

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Speaker 3: And he has today that had a meeting. They had

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Speaker 3: a meeting about three hours ago, and he's refusing to resign.

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Speaker 3: As a result, the council has voted to censure him. Now,

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure if you've caught up on what's been

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Speaker 3: going on. This is the guy who went on that

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Speaker 3: guy William's interview and said the N word, Remember, like

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Speaker 3: to make a point. I think that I don't really

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Speaker 3: know anyway, whatever he was trying to make a point. Now,

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Speaker 3: Apparently back in March he went along to a firefighters

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Speaker 3: event and it was a prize giving dinner and he

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Speaker 3: was an honored guest and they put him and his

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Speaker 3: wife at the VIP table, and apparently his behavior was

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Speaker 3: so bad there was a formal complaint made to the

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Speaker 3: council about it. Apparently he was articulating some disturbing and

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Speaker 3: offensive views. This is the letter complaining. Initially our guest

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Speaker 3: our guests passed the comments off as banter. However, the

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Speaker 3: banter intensified, including disparaging remarks made about Aucklanders and young

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Speaker 3: people in positions of authority, which was clearly directed at

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Speaker 3: others sitting at the table and those who hold office

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Speaker 3: in nearby parts of the country. Ben Bell, ben Bell,

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Speaker 3: I mean calor it must be about ben Bell right.

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Speaker 3: The mayor also described a massive divide between volunteer and

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Speaker 3: paid five five fighters which are simply unfounded and misleading.

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Speaker 3: He threatened them to say it on stage, according to

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Speaker 3: his speech. According to witnesses, during his speech at the lecton,

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Speaker 3: on stage, he proceeded to mock disrespect to great, offend

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Speaker 3: and embarrass our members, staff and other guests took a

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Speaker 3: crack at the MC who was living in Ponsmby also

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Speaker 3: suggested she and somebody else were having an affair like

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Speaker 3: he was just out of hand. Anyway, he's not quitting.

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Speaker 3: We're going to talk to one of his fellow counselors

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Speaker 3: about it. In twenty minutes. News Dog ZB.

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Speaker 2: The only drive show you can trust to ask the questions,

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Speaker 2: get the answers, by the facts and.

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Speaker 1: Give the analysis.

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Speaker 2: Heather due to Cellen Drive with One New Zealand Let's

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Speaker 2: Get Connected and News Talk.

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Speaker 11: Z B.

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Speaker 3: Evening. There are a couple of investigations underway now to

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Speaker 3: figure out why a power pylon just fellover, knocking out

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Speaker 3: the power to all of Northland yesterday. Transpower's boss this

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Speaker 3: morning would not be drawn on what happened, but the

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Speaker 3: Energy Minister Simme and Brown later in the day confirmed

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Speaker 3: that yes, the Transpower crew was working on the pilon

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Speaker 3: at the time. The Electricity Authority is conducting one of

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Speaker 3: those investigations in the Chief Executive, Sarah Gillies is with us. Now, Hey, Sarah, Hi,

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Speaker 3: what happened?

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Speaker 6: Well, that's exactly what we want to find out, So

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Speaker 6: you know, it's really important that we get into finding

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Speaker 6: out what happened here. Consumers have a right to have

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Speaker 6: confidence in their electricity supply and we need to know

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Speaker 6: what happened and give them answers.

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Speaker 3: Do you know what they were doing there? What was

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Speaker 3: the work they were actually doing.

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Speaker 6: I don't know the details of that, but that's part

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Speaker 6: of what we want to find out. We really just

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Speaker 6: need to understand exactly what occurred, and we want to

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Speaker 6: do that as quickly as possible so that we can

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Speaker 6: get answers.

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Speaker 3: To what's the value in you guys, The Electricity Authority

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Speaker 3: doing an investigation of Transpowers already doing an investigation.

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Speaker 6: Well, we we're the regulator and we're independent, so absolutely

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Speaker 6: understand that they would want to do their own investigation,

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Speaker 6: but we've got the ability to do that independent later

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Speaker 6: investigation into what happened. We're also really here on behalf

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Speaker 6: of consumers and so that's our job is to is

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Speaker 6: to help consumers have confidence in their electricity supply.

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Speaker 3: Do you have the power to force compensation or to

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Speaker 3: fine or to do anything like that.

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Speaker 6: We've got a range of powers, so this review, this

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Speaker 6: is something that we can do that looks into exactly

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Speaker 6: what happened. We've also got other powers that relate to

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Speaker 6: understanding if there's been any breaches of the rules and

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Speaker 6: ultimately what the consequences would be if there has been.

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Speaker 3: If you were to find that a Transpower crew was

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Speaker 3: working there and just under the bolts and the thing

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Speaker 3: fell over knocked out power to our whole region, what

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Speaker 3: powers would you have then to censure Transpower or punish them.

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Speaker 6: Well, it depends exactly on the circumstances. That we do

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Speaker 6: have powers that are quite broad, both in terms of

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Speaker 6: understanding what's occurred and in kind of the broader implications,

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Speaker 6: but also specifically if there has been a breach of

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Speaker 6: the rules. We've got powers there to enforce compliance with

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Speaker 6: the rules and our stimately there are consequences for that.

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Speaker 3: Right, So it doesn't sound like you've got the power

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Speaker 3: to find and you haven't got the power to force

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Speaker 3: compo right.

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Speaker 6: Oh no, no, no, we do so through our compensation

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Speaker 6: or through our compliance processes. There is ultimately the ability

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Speaker 6: for there's an independent tribunal called the Rulings Panel, and

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Speaker 6: they would ultimately be able to make orders that could

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Speaker 6: include compensation.

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Speaker 3: Can you only order compensation if there's been a breach

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Speaker 3: of the rules, or can you order compensation if people

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Speaker 3: have just been unbelievably stupid?

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Speaker 6: Well, in our case, it has come down to breaches

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Speaker 6: of the rules. But the powers that we've got, But

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Speaker 6: because we're doing this wider review, we've got the ability

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Speaker 6: to kind of get into exactly what's occurred and make

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Speaker 6: broader recommendations as well. So that's a big part of it.

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Speaker 3: Are you considering sabotage here?

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Speaker 6: I don't have any specifics on what might have occurred.

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Speaker 6: I think the important thing for us is to find

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Speaker 6: out exactly what's happened here. Where are preminded to understand

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Speaker 6: exactly what's occurred. We'll be asking all the questions and

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Speaker 6: making sure that we're getting answered.

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Speaker 3: How long is this instigation going to take?

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Speaker 6: Well, we want to move really quickly, so one of

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Speaker 6: the things we're going to do is to the investigation

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Speaker 6: in phases and that enables us to really quickly to

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Speaker 6: get some answers early on, and then also balance that

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Speaker 6: we're doing a comprehensive piece of work as well. So

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Speaker 6: the first phase we'd be locking, we're still consuming the

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Speaker 6: scope in the terms of reference that we'd be locking.

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Speaker 6: Subject to that scope being confirmed, we'd be looking to

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Speaker 6: have something by the end of July.

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Speaker 3: Brilliant stuff. Hey, thank you very much, Sarah, appreciate it,

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Speaker 3: Sarah gilly CEO of the Electricity Authority Together Clan. Sounds

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Speaker 3: like Cabinet's going to decide on Monday how to fund

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Speaker 3: Nationals thirteen cancer drugs. The word is the Cabinet will

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Speaker 3: bump farmac's budget up by about six hundred million dollars

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Speaker 3: over four years to make that happen. David Seymour is

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Speaker 3: the farm AC Minister. Hey, David, David good is that

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Speaker 3: one of the considerations a funding boost of six hundred million.

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Speaker 15: I'm going to put numbers on it, but you don't

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Speaker 15: actually need any special inside information to work out that.

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Speaker 15: Nicola Willis really set out the options about two weeks ago,

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Speaker 15: and I think she did a very accurate portrayal. Either

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Speaker 15: FARMAC could be instructed to fund specific drugs so the

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Speaker 15: government can keep its promise to national and there's patients.

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Speaker 15: That that would be I think an extraordinary departure from

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Speaker 15: Farmac's independence, but a logical possibility. Some other entities such

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Speaker 15: as what Labor did to buy the Farmac sorry COVID

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Speaker 15: vaccines could be set up again pretty radical move. The

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Speaker 15: other is to give more money to FARMAC, protect its

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Speaker 15: independence and keep giving it money until more pharmaceuticals come out.

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Speaker 15: And that of course is the third logical possibility.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the third option is obviously the one that would

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Speaker 3: be preferable. But how long would that? I mean you

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Speaker 3: could go for years even decades without the stuff being funded,

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Speaker 3: couldn't you?

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Speaker 15: Well, that's not necessary, verily true. You know, Harmak at

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Speaker 15: any given time has its options for investment lists, which

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Speaker 15: it's already done the maths on and said, if we

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Speaker 15: had an extra dollar, we would buy more of these treatments,

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Speaker 15: because those are the ones that, according to our formula,

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Speaker 15: would deliver greater benefits for people who are fighting various conditions.

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Speaker 9: Up and Dounew Zealand.

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Speaker 3: Are all thirteen of these drugs on that wish list?

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Speaker 15: Well, I wouldn't even be able to ask Pharmak if

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Speaker 15: that was the case, because the whole point of it

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Speaker 15: is that there are at Arm's links from politicians and

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Speaker 15: they're independent. And what's more, if I can find out,

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Speaker 15: then of course you end up with a situation where

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Speaker 15: politicians are basically sort of winking a nudge guiding the

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Speaker 15: decision making by giving money to get to a certain

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Speaker 15: drug on the list. So that's not how it works

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Speaker 15: and not how it should work.

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Speaker 3: You would never go down on that path, would you

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Speaker 3: as a cabinet David. You would never give them six

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Speaker 3: hundred million dollars and then expect them to fund these

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Speaker 3: thirteen drugs.

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Speaker 15: Well, I think we have to be really clear that

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Speaker 15: you know, if farmac has some challenges, there's no question

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Speaker 15: about that. I've been quite open about it. It's part

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Speaker 15: of the reason why I took it on, and that's

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Speaker 15: around listening to patient voice, being prepared to show how

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Speaker 15: funding more treatments can save the healthcare system and the

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Speaker 15: government money elsewhere. It's about how they deal with devices

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Speaker 15: which are sort of half responsible for, and I think

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Speaker 15: it's generally to do a thing a bit more collegial.

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Speaker 9: I've been quite open about this chriticisms.

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Speaker 15: However, the pharmac model at Base is run by some

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Speaker 15: very able people, very good at pharmacology and finance. They

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Speaker 15: make good decisions or the bust decisions, and they negotiate

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Speaker 15: with the pharmaceutical companies on behalf of all of us.

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Speaker 10: And that hard core of Farnac I think.

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Speaker 15: Is something that we should be very pleased to have

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Speaker 15: as a country. I think it serves us well and

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Speaker 15: we should almost be very cautious about compromising it.

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Speaker 3: David, thank you for your time. Appreciated. Good luck on Monday.

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00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 3: That's David Semoor, the Farmac Minister, be dealing with it

870
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 3: on Monday at cabinet. Heather, How ironic isn't it that

871
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 3: Nobby rolled sir Tim for being embarrassing. Very good point, Rob,

872
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 3: We're going to talk about that next quarter past. They

873
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 3: say in Spain rain falls mainly on the plains. In

874
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 3: New Zealand, though rain just falls absolutely everywhere, isn't it?

875
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 3: We have rain on all ter rain, and with all

876
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 3: of that rain, you probably want a pretty decent spouting

877
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 3: system right well, for thirty years, Continuous Group have been

878
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 3: making spouting facia and downpipes right here in New Zealand,

879
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 3: specifically for New Zealand conditions. Though the original Continuous Spouting Company,

880
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 3: I remember the ones that brought you the first spouting

881
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 3: without all those annoying joints. Man was a popular and

882
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 3: thanks to Continuous Group, more than three hundred thousand Kiwi

883
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 3: homes now find rain way less of a pain. If

884
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 3: you are building a new home, or if your existing

885
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 3: spouting just isn't cutting it anymore. I reckon you need

886
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 3: to give the good people at count a Continuous Group

887
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 3: a shout. They are available nationwide. Can find your local

888
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 3: continuous spouting specialist at Continuous dot co dot in z.

889
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 3: Do not let the rain drive you insane. Get the

890
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 3: original continuous spouting at your home. Contact your local Continuous

891
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 3: Group at Continuous dot co dot INZA. That's Continuous dot

892
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 3: co dot inzge do see Allen eighteen past five. Now

893
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 3: Noobby Clark has refused to resign as in Vicago mayor

894
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 3: at a special council meeting today. The mayor had been

895
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 3: accused of calling firefighters at an event second class citizens,

896
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 3: and then insulting the MC at a dinner that he

897
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 3: recently attended by wrongly implying she was having an affair.

898
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 3: Counselor Rear Bond says, this is unacceptable. She is a businesswoman,

899
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 3: a businesswoman that deserved a hell of a lot more

900
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 3: respect than she was given. To imply that she was

901
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 3: having an affair with the president.

902
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 19: Is one of the most horrific things that a female

903
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 19: professional can be accused of.

904
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:45,439
Speaker 3: Here's what the mayor had to say.

905
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 20: I have already apologized in writing to the complainant. I

906
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 20: do not accept that the public complaint that is outside

907
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 20: the scope of this code of conduct should be dealt

908
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:57,919
Speaker 20: with in this way.

909
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 3: The council narrowly voted against asking the mayor to resign.

910
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 3: Ian Pottinger is an in the Kangol City Council and

911
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 3: with us hey, Ian, well hi, how did he manage

912
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 3: to win their vote?

913
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 9: Well? It was six or five.

914
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:17,240
Speaker 21: The one councilor's overseas nobby was unable to vote, so left.

915
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 21: I think I went around the table got the five

916
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 21: ball and then acting chair the deput Mayor was voted

917
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 21: in favor not to ask for his resignation.

918
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,720
Speaker 3: So you guys instead asked him to do fewer public

919
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 3: appearances for the remainder of.

920
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:37,240
Speaker 21: The current Well I did. They wrote down some pretty

921
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 21: weird resolutions and in some ways, I don't know. Did

922
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 21: you listen to it today?

923
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 2: No?

924
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 3: No, no, I didn't listen to it.

925
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 21: Okay. So what they resolved and I made sure that

926
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 21: they got their writing rights. They've acknowledged that he's on

927
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 21: diminished duties doing due to health condition, and so what

928
00:43:58,800 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 21: that plays into.

929
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 22: I know how long I've got, But there's a.

930
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 21: Section of the Local Government's Act which I'll be that

931
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 21: that is going to be played out, and I'll read

932
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 21: it to you, and I.

933
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 3: Really have to just summarize it. What does it say?

934
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 3: So basically, if they've got a health condition, that on

935
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:17,439
Speaker 3: you okay.

936
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 21: So basically basically you can go to the district court

937
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 21: filing out for David saying that the member is not

938
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 21: capable of doing this job. The judge looks for it

939
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 21: and then goes okay, and then he asked the member to.

940
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 10: Prove that he's okay.

941
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 3: Are you going to do that.

942
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 21: They've just opened the avenue and I warned them about

943
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 21: this particular clause during the meeting.

944
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, do you reckon? He's going to listen to

945
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 3: you though, if you say please don't do as many appearances,

946
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 3: will he actually follow?

947
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 21: Oh? Well no, that's I don't know if he's going

948
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 21: to listen to the ruling a council, but he may

949
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 21: have to listen to the district Court judge.

950
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 3: Okay, well, Ian, the best of luck and keep us posted.

951
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 3: And sorry for asking you not to read the Local

952
00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:01,919
Speaker 3: Government Act. I mean, I don't know how to say

953
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 3: it nicely, but there's there's dry there's some dry stuff

954
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 3: there got on your Ian Pottinger in Thecagol City councilor

955
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 3: love a details guy though, way sabotage heither. That's a

956
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 3: conspiracy theory if I ever heard one, but it was

957
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 3: probably aliens. No fair enough, the sabotage thing, I don't look.

958
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 3: The reason I wasn't listening to the Mbcagol City Council

959
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 3: meeting was because I was listening to sam in Brown's

960
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 3: press conference and somebody asked them. Somebody was like, was

961
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 3: that sabotage? I was like, why why are you asking

962
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 3: that question? I mean, okay, we'll leave all options open,

963
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 3: but there was a crew there, so I think we're

964
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 3: coming to think, well, while you're at it, ask ask

965
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 3: on behalf of the texture. If it was aliens as well,

966
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 3: we may as well just cover everything. Then five two.

967
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 2: Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's Heather duper c

968
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 2: Allen drive with one New Zealand let's get connected and

969
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 2: us talk.

970
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 11: Said Bee.

971
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 3: I'm getting a lot of texts suggesting that maybe the

972
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,919
Speaker 3: guy who burned down the Sky City Convention center's taking

973
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 3: up a job at Transpower And you know what, well,

974
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 3: why don't we just ask them that as well when

975
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 3: we're at the press conference asking about sabotage. Twenty four

976
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 3: past five? Now, listen, do you know what I'm loving?

977
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 3: And I'm sorry because I'm going to slightly repeat myself

978
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 3: for the second time in as many weeks, because I'm

979
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 3: going to talk about how much Super Rugby sucks. But

980
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,240
Speaker 3: what I am loving is the fact that the Super

981
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 3: Rugby bosses them now themselves are now pretty much admitting

982
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:23,439
Speaker 3: that Super Rugby sucks. I mean, what I reckon would

983
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 3: have maybe two or three years ago been pretty far out.

984
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 3: Ideas are now being discussed by these bosses. This week,

985
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 3: Kevin mcloy said he'd like to see our best players

986
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 3: in New Zealand be able to go and play for

987
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 3: the Ossie based Super Rugby sides. Now, Kevin mcloy is

988
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 3: not just any old mate without an opinion with an opinion.

989
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 3: Here is the Super Rugby Pacific chairman. So he is

990
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 3: the guy running the show and he reckons It would

991
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 3: be great if we could see the likes of Ardie

992
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 3: Savier go and play for let's say the Waratars, because

993
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 3: it would improve the competition. And it would improve the

994
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 3: competition because the Warritars suck. They're at the bottom of

995
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 3: the table and undoubtedly they would suck a whole lot

996
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 3: less if they had already playing for them. Right now,

997
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 3: come on, tell me that's not going to improve the competition.

998
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 3: If the Aussie Bays teams could just improve a little bit,

999
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 3: because that's part of the problem, they will basically suck.

1000
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 3: Without the exception every now and again of someone like

1001
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 3: the a team like the Brumbies this year who managed

1002
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 3: to actually look but you know, you're like, yeah, the

1003
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,720
Speaker 3: Brumbies are in there, but don't worry a New Zealand

1004
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 3: squad or knock them out by the semis like one

1005
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 3: hundred percent, right. So it would be a whole lot

1006
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 3: better if we could make those teams improve so that

1007
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 3: it actually felt more like a competition. They're not going

1008
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 3: to improve by themselves. They're Australian rugby players. We're going

1009
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 3: to have to lend them some of our guys. But

1010
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 3: that's not the only upside to this. It could also

1011
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,720
Speaker 3: mean that we don't lose the likes of Richie mccare

1012
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 3: Richie Muwanga sorry going to Japan like he has, because

1013
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 3: Kevin mcloy reckons that the Force could probably write as

1014
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 3: big a check as as Japan did for Richie and

1015
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 3: keep him in the Super Rugby comp And if he

1016
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 3: stays in the Super Rugby comp what that also means

1017
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 3: is it keeps him eligible for the All Blacks. You

1018
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 3: don't have to give up on him.

1019
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 2: Now.

1020
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 3: I don't know why this idea is so crazy to

1021
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 3: rugby fans, I'm i'm told by the guys out in

1022
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 3: the sports sports department. Then, in fact, there are heaps

1023
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 3: of rugby competitions around the world who allow players to

1024
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 3: transfer between clubs, and there are heaps of many. There

1025
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 3: are heaps of mature competitions just in any sporting code

1026
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 3: that allow players to move between clubs. Maybe not mid season,

1027
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 3: maybe at the start of the season and the start

1028
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 3: of the contract. But the A League, of the EPL,

1029
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 3: and the NBA and the IPL they all do it.

1030
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 3: So should Super Rugby. It's not a new idea. It's

1031
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 3: been floating around for ages. How good is it, though,

1032
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 3: that we finally have the bosses also thinking it's a

1033
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 3: good idea.

1034
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 1: Good Heather do for sel?

1035
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 3: Cold Play, I don't know. Are you up to your

1036
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 3: gills of people trying to do the right thing by

1037
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 3: the environment and being slightly hypocritical? I've got one for you.

1038
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 3: Coldplay has announced the release of their highly anticipated tenth album,

1039
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 3: Moon Music. The record is going to land in stores

1040
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,760
Speaker 3: and on streaming services in October. Right. The first single,

1041
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 3: Feels Like I'm Falling in Love was released today. You've

1042
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 3: got some of that ass fly? Okay, So it's just Coldplay,

1043
00:48:58,560 --> 00:48:59,439
Speaker 3: isn't it cold Play?

1044
00:48:59,440 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 11: Again?

1045
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 3: Anyway?

1046
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 4: Now?

1047
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 3: Coldplays big and too sustainability in the climate, and their

1048
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 3: tour so far has produced fifty nine percent less co

1049
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 3: two emissions than their previous stadium tour, they say, and

1050
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 3: the new album is going to be extra extra, extra eco.

1051
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 3: They are going to make their albums. Get This Okay

1052
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 3: the first album released as a one hundred and forty

1053
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 3: gram eco record LP, with each copy made from nine

1054
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 3: recycled pet plastic bottles recovered from post consumer waste. No

1055
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 3: idea what that means. This will prevent the manufacturer of

1056
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 3: more than twenty five metric tons of virgin plastic and

1057
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,919
Speaker 3: provide an eighty five percent reduction in manufacturing process COO

1058
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 3: two emissions per kg compared to traditional one hundred and

1059
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 3: forty gram vinyl. I don't know about you, but I

1060
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 3: have been sitting at home and thinking about my one

1061
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 3: hundred and forty grand vinyl and thinking, you evil little

1062
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 3: piece of plastic, You dirty, dirty. I just want a clean,

1063
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,800
Speaker 3: recycled version of my one hundred and forty gram vinyl.

1064
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 3: How about you just stop flying around the world if

1065
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 3: you want to save the planet, mate.

1066
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 2: Headline's next, The day's newsmakers talk to Heather First, Heather

1067
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 2: Duperice Alan drive with One New Zealand, Let's get connected

1068
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 2: and news talk Zi be.

1069
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 9: Blood stuff forget your truck grit did your part through

1070
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 9: my did?

1071
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,959
Speaker 3: It's fun for We're gonna have to talk about Willie

1072
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 3: Jackson because I don't know if you've if you've read

1073
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:25,879
Speaker 3: the Herald this morning and the stuff that he said

1074
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:29,919
Speaker 3: to media inside it. But anyway, we'll get there evening, Heather.

1075
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,959
Speaker 3: I was rather surprised when Coldplay announced the current tour,

1076
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 3: which includes New Zealand, because if you remember, they made

1077
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 3: the great statement back in March twenty nineteen that they

1078
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 3: would not continue touring due to environmental concerns. I'm guessing

1079
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 3: the bank accounts are draining busted, thank you, Mike Hey.

1080
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 3: Weird weird development read the supermarkets. The Commerce Commissions again

1081
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,840
Speaker 3: has delayed the decision on whether they will allow food

1082
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 3: Stuffs to merge its North and South Island operations. Again.

1083
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 3: It was supposed to make a decision today but it's

1084
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 3: now said it needs extra time. It's going to do

1085
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 3: it in October. To have a chat to food Stuffs

1086
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 3: North Ireland's chief executive Chris Quinn after six o'clock get

1087
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 3: the details on that. Sports huddle is standing by be

1088
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,240
Speaker 3: with us very shortly. Right now, it's twenty three away from.

1089
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 1: Six Heather duper see Alan, We've got the.

1090
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 3: Super Rugby Final tomorrow evening and while the Blues have

1091
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 3: obviously been the favorites, the Chiefs are a real threat

1092
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 3: after they beat the top seeded Hurricanes in Wellington last weekend.

1093
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 3: David Hill is the Chiefs assistant coach. David Hello, is

1094
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 3: this your year?

1095
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,839
Speaker 9: We'll find out tomorrow, but we' we'll quite a good

1096
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 9: feeling about it and things have been going well, so

1097
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 9: I feel like we're going to give a good correct Yeah.

1098
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 3: Because tell me, I mean, how are you guys? What's

1099
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 3: your mindset going into this year after what happened last year?

1100
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 3: Because last year was your year and then at the

1101
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 3: last minute it wasn't. So does that make you mentally

1102
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 3: stronger or does that create a kind of hoodoo?

1103
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 9: Typically given us some experiences to fall back on, both

1104
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 9: good and bad. But we understood last year that you know,

1105
00:51:56,280 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 9: we had a really good squad, really said all and

1106
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 9: got into a good groove and ultimately didn't didn't come

1107
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 9: away with it in the final. That experience would have

1108
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 9: brought us that the best team on the on the

1109
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 9: on the day actually is the one that will come through,

1110
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 9: not so much the best team all year, So that

1111
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:20,879
Speaker 9: was our mindset last week, the same this week. It's

1112
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 9: the best team on the day, and whether you have

1113
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 9: won ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, or fourteen games in a

1114
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 9: round robin doesn't recap so much. So that that experience

1115
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 9: is as harsh as it was, as hard as it

1116
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 9: was to deal with last year's definitely helped us. So

1117
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 9: we're different.

1118
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so in terms of the crowd support and stuff,

1119
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 3: have you got a lot of fans coming up?

1120
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:46,879
Speaker 9: I would assume that expressways cut tripped down a little bit,

1121
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 9: but we're expecting a good amount of you know, read

1122
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 9: yet on black and no matter where you were born

1123
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 9: or where you live, we're expecting it to be you know,

1124
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:57,879
Speaker 9: had some good support there.

1125
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, good stuff. Hey do you reckon? I mean, you

1126
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 3: guys have got some brilliant players in the squad. Do

1127
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 3: you reckon Damien McKenzie should actually be the first choice,

1128
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:06,320
Speaker 3: first five for the Abs.

1129
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 9: Well, it's a great question. Probably not one that I

1130
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 9: can answer. Is I'm not a selector, but if I was,

1131
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 9: it would be probably in the top three options. So

1132
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:20,879
Speaker 9: I'd be comfortable somewhere in the team's us for sure.

1133
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 3: What about the other two who's.

1134
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 10: The other two?

1135
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 9: Then no idea?

1136
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,959
Speaker 3: Yeah you don't what hold on? You just said he'd

1137
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 3: be in the top three, but you don't know who

1138
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 3: the other two.

1139
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, so he'd be one. I don't know who

1140
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 9: the other two are someone.

1141
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:34,479
Speaker 5: But.

1142
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 3: Totally Hey, are you up for a super rugby shake up?

1143
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 9: I think trying to find a way to find a

1144
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 9: product and a competition that works. I definitely think the

1145
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 9: the number of teams and the teams that can compete,

1146
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 9: it's important to get the balance right. So yeah, I

1147
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 9: pick up or just a bit of a week I

1148
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:00,919
Speaker 9: think would be good.

1149
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit of a tweak or something drastic,

1150
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 3: like what about the idea that you're able to swap

1151
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 3: players and recruit them from different areas, Like maybe even

1152
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,760
Speaker 3: the Aussies can recruit some of our players?

1153
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 9: Uh yeah, well I'm not sure it'd take too many

1154
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 9: of the Aussies. But yeah, I think that would be

1155
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 9: a good conversation and good that would be good for

1156
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:23,359
Speaker 9: the for the competition. So open to that discussion. But

1157
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 9: the obviously you have to build a bit of work

1158
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 9: to be done. I can't imagine that happening in the

1159
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 9: next couple of years, but yeah, you.

1160
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 3: Never know, you never know, David, good luck for this

1161
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 3: weekend either way. Either way, Like, let's be honest about it.

1162
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:36,839
Speaker 3: How good to not have the Crusaders there.

1163
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 9: Well, I think I think there's a good portion of

1164
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 9: the country that are that are confused now. They're not

1165
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 9: sure who to cheer for because normally they cheer for

1166
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 9: the team that's playing. But yeah, I think it's good

1167
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 9: for the competition. I think it's good. And yeah they

1168
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 9: had a rough year, but no doubt they'll be back.

1169
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 9: So it's yeah, it's our time, all the Blues time.

1170
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 3: Good stuff, David, best of likeck and thank you your

1171
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 3: time mate. That's David Hill, Chiefs assistant coach. See didn't

1172
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 3: hate the idea of swapping the players, although we don't.

1173
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 3: He's quite right. We don't want any of the Aussie players,

1174
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 3: do we? Nineteen away from six.

1175
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 2: The Friday Sports Huddle with New Zealand Southeast International Realty

1176
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:35,480
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1177
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 18: But Blues a super title of title in two.

1178
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 3: Best finals often come down to those moments one try,

1179
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 3: I can already all of those little things head up

1180
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 3: to big things in finals and on the sports Huddle

1181
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 3: of that's this evening, you've got Adam Cooper, host of

1182
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 3: the All Sport Breakfast in Wellington, and Jim Kay's sports journalist,

1183
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 3: Hello you too, Hello Jim. How good is it to

1184
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 3: have a final without the cruise?

1185
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 9: He just stayed with that.

1186
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 10: Yeah, it is good. It's good. As he said, it's

1187
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 10: good from a competition perspective. And you know, it's certainly

1188
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,839
Speaker 10: been good for me looking at Sky because there's a

1189
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 10: lot of Crusader supporters at Sky, so I've been able

1190
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 10: to wind them up a fair bit about not featuring

1191
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 10: in the last couple of weeks of the compin. Yeah, look,

1192
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 10: you know we're going to have a fresh winner. I

1193
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 10: guess all of this is that the Crusader has been incredible,

1194
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:30,919
Speaker 10: haven't they, Because we're celebrating the fact that they're not there,

1195
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 10: So it's kind of a backhanded compliment to them that

1196
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:36,879
Speaker 10: they've just been so good and so dominant that we're

1197
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 10: actually really happy here now totally.

1198
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 3: I mean, it's nice, isn't it, Coops, Because it's a

1199
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 3: genuine contest tomorrow. Who would know who's going to win?

1200
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 3: Either of them could win.

1201
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 7: Oh, very much so. And I mean, if I think

1202
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 7: if you're looking at this game maybe two weeks ago.

1203
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:51,760
Speaker 7: If we knew that these two teams are in the final,

1204
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 7: you'd back the Blues the whole way just because they have.

1205
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 7: You know, I been pretty competitive this season aside from

1206
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 7: the Hurricanes. They've set the benchmark right through. And the

1207
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 7: Chiefs had some pretty bad losses times through the season.

1208
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 7: I think five losses and they were including some some

1209
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 7: big Kiwi Darby's, so you know, they spilled some games.

1210
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 7: But I think the way the Chiefs here, they have

1211
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:11,399
Speaker 7: just really put down the throttle in these playoffs. I mean,

1212
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 7: you know, a huge quarter final when just being far

1213
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 7: too strong for the Hurricanes, just just from the absolute

1214
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 7: get go last week and they've really just searched in

1215
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 7: these playoffs. And you know, if that momentum continues, they're

1216
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 7: going to be real tough for the Blues tomorrow.

1217
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:24,439
Speaker 3: It's going to be a tough game. I'm looking forward

1218
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 3: to it. Jim, tell me who is going to be

1219
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 3: the captain of the All Blacks and is Damien McKenzie

1220
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 3: the first choice.

1221
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 10: Damie McKenzie will probably been the first first five unless

1222
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 10: Scott Robertson has been out of full Rich Mollinger out of.

1223
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 12: His head.

1224
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 10: And who will be the captain? Well, I mean, looked

1225
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 10: as far I was at the tab, the short eyes

1226
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 10: would be.

1227
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 15: Scott Barrettrucially, i'd.

1228
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 10: Love to see Cody Taylor captain your Blacks. Yeah, he's

1229
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 10: a fantastic person. He's the first choice in his position.

1230
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 10: He plays superbly well, he doesn't get Red Carter very

1231
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 10: often at all. It doesn't really give away dumb penalties

1232
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 10: and brings a lot of manner. So I mean, if

1233
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 10: I was to pick someone myself, I'd be going for him,

1234
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 10: but I suspect it will more than likely be Scott Barrett.

1235
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you reckon coops?

1236
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, very similar. Obviously Artie Savier has been in the

1237
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 7: conversation as well. But for me, I'm like, you know,

1238
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 7: Artie is often the most important player on the park obviously,

1239
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 7: well rugby player of the Year and everything like that,

1240
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 7: and I think for Artie just let him players game,

1241
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 7: don't worry about the captaincy, and you know, if he

1242
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 7: needs to slot in there and let him do that.

1243
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 7: But I just think let him be the force years

1244
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 7: on the field without the leadership responsibility. So I'm yeah,

1245
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 7: just like Jim, I'm going to be pretty surprised if

1246
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 7: we don't see s Barrett named just skipper on Monday.

1247
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 3: Coops, so wild rugby making a mistake, giving the TMO

1248
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 3: more power potentially.

1249
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think so. I've been and the stands for

1250
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 7: most of the Hurricanes games here at Wellington this year

1251
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 7: and it is just so frustrating every time they interject,

1252
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 7: often the microphones and on the speakers, so for fans

1253
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 7: to be engaged. Just the less amount of times the

1254
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 7: TMOS can get involved, the better. And there are always

1255
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 7: going to be problems. There are always going to be

1256
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 7: things that aren't one hundred percent correct, but that's rugby.

1257
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 7: Players make mistakes. The refs can make the odd mistake

1258
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 7: as well, and the games you're to carry on. But

1259
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 7: any more interjection it's going to be more frustrating for

1260
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 7: it for the most important people are fans.

1261
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 3: I think we all react like that, Jim. But is

1262
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 3: it possible that if they actually make their calls in

1263
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 3: real time it could speed the game up rather than

1264
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 3: going back four or five phases.

1265
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 10: The MO should be treated like naughty children sometimes seen

1266
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 10: seldom heard, and they should be there at the invitation

1267
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 10: of the referee. Only they shouldn't be able to interject

1268
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 10: and yeah, they should have be able to go back

1269
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 10: thirty seven phases where something that is of no consequence

1270
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 10: that now is brought into greater influence. I just can't

1271
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 10: see here how more TMO can speed the game up.

1272
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 10: I just don't see it. And like Adam, you know,

1273
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 10: we're imperfect people, human beings, sports imperfect that some of

1274
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 10: the great things about sport is when things are done imperfectly.

1275
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 10: I think if we chase perfection and sport, we're being ridiculous.

1276
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 10: And yeah, we want to get things right. Players drop

1277
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 10: the board, miss tackles, kick the ball out, all those

1278
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:17,439
Speaker 10: sorts of things. Let's just worry a little bit less

1279
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 10: about the match officials and more about the actual game.

1280
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 10: You know, they have so much focus on the referee.

1281
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, well, I think everybody's reacted like that, which

1282
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 3: really says that the CMO has fallen out of favor

1283
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 3: in a big way. Let's take a break. We've got

1284
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 3: to talk about the Warriors, and we'll come back and

1285
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 3: do that. Fourteen away from six.

1286
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:36,800
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1287
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1288
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Speaker 3: You're back with the Sports Huddle. I got Adam Cooper

1289
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 3: and Jim Kays coops the Warrior is I mean, that's

1290
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 3: a slam dunk when this this weekend, isn't it?

1291
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 7: Well, well, that the nice hardest team to predict the outcomes,

1292
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 7: aren't they Just when you think they're on a roll

1293
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 7: sometimes and you know they're going to have an easy

1294
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 7: win against the team like the Titans, then they go

1295
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Speaker 7: and they go and shock fans and then justin you

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Speaker 7: think they're in a bit of a rut, they go

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Speaker 7: and they go and produce a remarkable victory. So yeah,

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Speaker 7: to know, isn't it on the back of the sort

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Speaker 7: of tough loss to the Storm last weekend? I think

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Speaker 7: it's really interesting now what she's going to happen with

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Speaker 7: with the halves, with with Sean Johnson and to Marty Martin.

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Speaker 7: You know, Sean Johnson, someone that has so much mona

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Speaker 7: within the Warriors, but clearly just isn't the player that

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Speaker 7: he was even last year when he returned and made

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Speaker 7: a real influence. So I think some changes just need

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Speaker 7: to happen there.

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Speaker 3: And you know the are you saying to Marty Martin

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Speaker 3: needs to be given the number seven jersey?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 7: I think so. The best moments of their game last

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Speaker 7: week was when Tom Marty Martin was on the field

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Speaker 7: and Johnson had gone off injured. So I just think

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Speaker 7: at some point that change does need to happen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jim, I feel like there's still pressure on this guy, right,

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Speaker 3: and like quite.

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Speaker 10: A lot, absolutely, And every coach is judged by their selections.

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Speaker 10: You know, most coaches will tell you that selection is

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Speaker 10: the biggest part of coaching. Teaman does Andrew webs you know,

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Speaker 10: can he step back? Can he look at it objectively?

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Speaker 10: Can he make a decision along the lines of what

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Speaker 10: Coops are suggesting and lots of other people have suggested too,

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Speaker 10: So it seems to be a ground Sowell of opinion

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Speaker 10: that maybe there's time to make a change here. But

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Speaker 10: it would be a huge chift because obviously Sean Johnson

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Speaker 10: is the beloved Warriors player. But you know, form wills

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Speaker 10: out eventually, doesn't it, And and there's a whole cliches

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Speaker 10: we all get old, will slow down, and maybe it's

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Speaker 10: time to make that chift.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like it might be Listen, Okay, Coops,

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Speaker 3: are you worried about the number of cricketers who are

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Speaker 3: opting out of the central contracts or just obviously prioritizing

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Speaker 3: the T twenty money leagues overplaying for their country.

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Speaker 7: It's to worry for where the game goes for the fans,

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Speaker 7: I think, Heather, I mean, this is the reality, right,

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Speaker 7: you can't blame the players for doing this. If they've

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Speaker 7: got these options in front of you. Of course you're

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Speaker 7: going to want to take the money, maximize your income

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Speaker 7: well while you can still play. But we're going to

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Speaker 7: have I think teared games for the black Caps A. Right,

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Speaker 7: You're going to have a black Caps B team that

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Speaker 7: will play the likes of Bongladesh and the lower ranked

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Speaker 7: nations in those series. And then every now and then

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Speaker 7: when these players feel like it, they'll say, oh yeah,

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Speaker 7: well we'll come and play these three tests for Australia.

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Speaker 7: So it's the reality, and this global calendar is going

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Speaker 7: to be so important with I think a few regulations

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Speaker 7: around players that represent the national teams, because fans I

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Speaker 7: think are real risk here of being disengaged with the

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Speaker 7: sport that's had so much popularity here because of the

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Speaker 7: national team, and we don't want it to kind of

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Speaker 7: turn into basketball as an example, where people playing for

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Speaker 7: the national basketball team it isn't their priority. And you

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Speaker 7: know how many of our top New Zealand players don't

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Speaker 7: play for the tall Backs because they're so tight and

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Speaker 7: with their clubs and things. And I just think there's

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Speaker 7: a real risk of that creeping and crickets international relevance

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Speaker 7: really dwindling because we don't have franchise leagues in the

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Speaker 7: Zealand and we probably can't afford to have too many

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Speaker 7: teams if we do expand the domestic conversation. So it's

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Speaker 7: going to be really interesting.

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Speaker 3: Fair point. But is and and the solution gym is

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Speaker 3: obviously to have the very clear windows. This is your

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Speaker 3: big money window, this is your play for the national

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Speaker 3: squad window. But is there any sense that this has

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Speaker 3: actually been considered?

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Speaker 10: No, wow, there's no sense of it. I mean, cricket

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Speaker 10: is run by India really by the BCC up the end,

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Speaker 10: and that's where the money, that's where the power is.

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Speaker 10: And you know, you get a cricket like Coop said

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Speaker 10: with basketball, and you know, I think rugby will probably

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Speaker 10: go this race at in the rugby league has down

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Speaker 10: this path as well. And football the reality is your

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Speaker 10: best players are going to go with the money. Is

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Speaker 10: it going to be overseas and you're going to have

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Speaker 10: to cut your cloth to suit, just as we are

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Speaker 10: having conversations about picking all blacks overseas. You know New

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Speaker 10: Zealand cricket at the moment they only picked their captain

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Speaker 10: from a contracted player. How long will that? Will they

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Speaker 10: have the luxture of doing that? You know, when will

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Speaker 10: they have to bite the bullet and say, actually, most

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Speaker 10: of our best players now play overseas and we're just

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Speaker 10: going to have to pick all of them from there.

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Speaker 10: It's just the reality of money, isn't it. You know,

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Speaker 10: you guys have said you can never begrudge them turning

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Speaker 10: it down, that it's telephone, it's phone numbers.

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Speaker 3: And this is exactly right right. You've got to acknowledge

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Speaker 3: the power of the money and then you've got to

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Speaker 3: find a solution around it, not to fight it. Guys,

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Speaker 3: it's wonderful to talk to you. Enjoy your week in

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Speaker 3: of sport. There's Jim k sports journalists and Adam Cooper,

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Speaker 3: host of the All Sport Breakfast and Wellington seven o'clock

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Speaker 3: tomorrow morning, seven away from six, on your smart.

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Speaker 1: Speaker, on the iHeart app and in your car.

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01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 2: On your drive home Heather Dupless Allen Drive with One

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Speaker 2: New Zealand one giant lead for Business News talk as the'd.

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Speaker 3: Be five away from six. Hey, do you remember I

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01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 3: was telling you yesterday that those people from justop Oil

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01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 3: had managed to get hold of Taita's jet and sprayed

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Speaker 3: all the sprayed all the orange paint all over Tata's jet.

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Speaker 3: Eh No, they didn't. They thought it was Taj's jet.

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01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, no, that's that's misrepresenting the situation.

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01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 3: They thought that Tata's jet was at this particular airport

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01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 3: I think was Stanstead, and so they went there. They

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01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 3: knew the tail number, but they couldn't find it. So

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01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:24,919
Speaker 3: then they just sprayed a couple of random jets using

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Speaker 3: fire extinguishers filled with orange paints. So not quite as exciting,

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01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 3: not quite as exciting. Here we go. This is my

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Speaker 3: favorite rant of the day. It comes from Willie Jackson.

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01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 3: He's complaining about the TV and Z Board. So when

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Speaker 3: he was the Minister for Media or Broadcasting whatever they

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Speaker 3: called it, he appointed four of the current members of

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Speaker 3: the TV and Z Board Alistair Carruthers, Ripeka Evans, Linda

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Speaker 3: Clark and John Quirk. And he says now that he's

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Speaker 3: really disappointed because the board that he appointed cut shows

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01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 3: like Sunday and he didn't like. He doesn't like the

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Speaker 3: way that they've been treating the workers who've obviously been

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Speaker 3: let go from these shows. He says, I'm not happy

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Speaker 3: with the cuts and I'm a bit disappointed in the

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01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:04,919
Speaker 3: board I appointed that board. The ones that we put

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Speaker 3: up we thought were very much public media people. They

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Speaker 3: would give a perspective. They either had experience, they had insight,

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Speaker 3: they had history in terms of New Zealand identity. They

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Speaker 3: were our board. Looks like they're going to be nationals

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Speaker 3: board now. They have got a pretty secure future, so

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Speaker 3: it must be doing. Okay, what is wrong with this man?

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Speaker 3: You don't like?

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Speaker 4: Why does he have.

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Speaker 3: To say the stupid stuff out loud? When you are

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Speaker 3: the Broadcasting Minister whatever they called it. You don't appoint

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Speaker 3: a board to be like, this is my labor board

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01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 3: and they can do all my labor party stuff. You

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Speaker 3: just appoint You're supposed to appoint a board that is

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Speaker 3: going to be the best board to run this particular company.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, he's basically just admitted he picked a whole

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Speaker 3: bunch of people he thought wo'd be sympathetic to the

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Speaker 3: stuff that labor wanted to do, And now he's really

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Speaker 3: gutted that they're not being naughty under the National government

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01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 3: and just like rejecting everything National ones now they're just

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Speaker 3: doing what they're doing the policy of the day. Oh

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Speaker 3: my gosh. He just says it out loud, doesn't he.

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Speaker 3: He also said they should have shown some respect by

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01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 3: at least talking to him about recent developments. Not a word,

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Speaker 3: not a message. Unbelievable. Chris Quinn.

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Speaker 2: Next, what's down?

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Speaker 1: What were the major calls and how will it affect

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Speaker 1: the economy.

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01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 2: Of the beatle business questions on the Business Hour with

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Speaker 2: hither Duplicy, alb and my Hr on News Talks av.

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Speaker 3: Even in coming up in the next hour, Peter Lewis

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01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 3: is going to talk us through Vlad and Kim's bromance.

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01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 3: Barry Soople will rap the political week that wasn't Gavin

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01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 3: Gray's with us out of the UK seven past six.

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Speaker 3: The Commerce Commission has delayed its decision on whether to

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Speaker 3: allow Food Stuffs to merge its North and South Island operations. Again.

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Speaker 3: It was due to make a decision today, but now

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Speaker 3: it says it's extended its deadline to October. It's set

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Speaker 3: to outline problem areas with the mergers soon and then

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Speaker 3: food Stuffs and other interested parties will be able to

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Speaker 3: respond after that. Food Stuff's North Island's chief executive, Chris

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Speaker 3: Quinn is with me. Now, Hey, Chris, evening, Heather, how

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Speaker 3: are you well? Thank you? Were you expecting this many delays?

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Speaker 22: Look, when we started the process, we knew there could

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Speaker 22: be three stages, and this is the third stage, which

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Speaker 22: is a statement of unresolved issues. We expect to see

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Speaker 22: in about three and a half weeks or so. So

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Speaker 22: we knew this could happen, but we do remain one

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Speaker 22: hundred percent committed to this being absolutely the right thing

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Speaker 22: to do.

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Speaker 3: Have they communicated to you what the unresolved issues are?

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Speaker 22: No, not at this point. We believe we get that

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Speaker 22: sometime in the middle of July.

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Speaker 3: Are you starting to lose hope? I mean, this is

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Speaker 3: obviously a really gnarly one for them.

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Speaker 22: Look, we get that this has got a huge exposure.

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Speaker 22: There's been a lot of conversation about this, and we

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Speaker 22: understand that with cost of living and all of the

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Speaker 22: things that affect New Zealand households, what we are really

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Speaker 22: pleased with is last three months food price inflations being

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Speaker 22: well below a percent. We think we've tackled the issues

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Speaker 22: that came because of weather and became because of the

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Speaker 22: the global supply chain and the various cost issues from

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Speaker 22: our suppliers. So we're determined because the next thing we

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01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 22: can do for our customers to improve value and to

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Speaker 22: improve innovation and comparediveness for a New Zealand owned cooperative

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Speaker 22: is to make this merger happen and make us more

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Speaker 22: efficient and reduce our costs.

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Speaker 3: Do you think the suppliers have the ear of the

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Speaker 3: Communis Commission because your supplies are very worried about the

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Speaker 3: sun day.

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Speaker 22: Look, I talk to a lot of suppliers and I

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01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:31,760
Speaker 22: don't find many that are very worried about this. I

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Speaker 22: see that there are anonymous reports in the media and

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Speaker 22: various stories. I talked to a lot of suppliers. We

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Speaker 22: literally every couple of weeks here from hundreds of them,

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Speaker 22: and we're not hearing some of the same issues. We

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Speaker 22: know that this merger makes it easier for supplies to

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Speaker 22: engage with us, to get to all of the customers nationally.

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Speaker 22: We will still be able to do a supplier working

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Speaker 22: with one local store owned by a local family that

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01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 22: will not go away at any point, and we think

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Speaker 22: that there's real opportunity for lies on this.

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Speaker 3: So what the supplier has suggested that they are really

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01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 3: worried about, and this is the particular one that is

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Speaker 3: anonymous talking to the media today, is that they are

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01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 3: worried that they will just be cut out of being

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Speaker 3: able to supply if there is just one big decider

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Speaker 3: right at the moment. Obviously they can go to your competitor,

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01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 3: or they could go to yourself, or they can go

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Speaker 3: to food Stuff South Island. But if it's just if

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01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 3: you guys amalgamate, it's just two options for them and

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01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:25,599
Speaker 3: that's a big gamble. Is that potentially a problem where

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Speaker 3: if they fall out of favor.

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Speaker 22: They're out Well, I think first thing is be think

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01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:31,960
Speaker 22: logically about it. To get to North Island customers, there

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01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 22: are two large retailer grocery options, and to get the

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Speaker 22: South Old customers there are two, and we still will

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Speaker 22: be after this merger. It makes no change to that.

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Speaker 22: The other thing that's quite unique about Foodstuffs is with

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Speaker 22: every one of our stores having one individual local gross

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Speaker 22: ranting family, the supply can work with them to get

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Speaker 22: locally ranged. There are some amazing products on shelf in

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Speaker 22: our stores that are very local and very loved in

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Speaker 22: that community. And we have an emerge program where we've

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Speaker 22: worked with over two and fifty supplies in the North Island,

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Speaker 22: about fifty of them, you know, bring new startup supplies,

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Speaker 22: people have great ideas. About fifty of them are now

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Speaker 22: on shelf in a small number of Sores or a

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01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:12,760
Speaker 22: large number, depending on who they are. That sort of

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Speaker 22: thing we've been so proud of for the last hundred

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Speaker 22: years to do, and we're going to keep doing after

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Speaker 22: this merger.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Chris, while I've got you on the land covenants case,

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01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 3: am I right in reading this the way that it

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01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:24,759
Speaker 3: looks like it's played out, which is that the ComCom

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Speaker 3: takes takes it to court files against you guys, and

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Speaker 3: then you settle after.

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Speaker 22: That, I think essentially we have started the process of

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Speaker 22: a settlement on that issue relating back to twenty thirteen fourteen,

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Speaker 22: and the court will review that settlement and decided they're

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Speaker 22: satisfied with it, and for how much I can't say

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Speaker 22: at this point.

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Speaker 3: Will that be made public once the court says yes

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01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:49,639
Speaker 3: or no. I believe it well, okay, cool, Hey, thank

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Speaker 3: you Chris Enjoy. We can really appreciate your time. That's

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Speaker 3: Chris Quinn, chief executive of food Stuff's North Island. Listen.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if this, I think is only just

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Speaker 3: emerging from the BBC, but it looks like North Korea

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01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:01,639
Speaker 3: is building sex of what appears to be a wall

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01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 3: in several places along the border with South Korea. There's

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01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:07,000
Speaker 3: got these new satellite images they've popped up on the

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01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 3: BBC's website. It looks like they've gone and cleared some

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01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:13,600
Speaker 3: land inside the demilitarized zone, which they're probably not supposed

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Speaker 3: to do, and then they're building the little wall that

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Speaker 3: they I mean, it's a long border, so I don't

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Speaker 3: know if they're going to do the whole thing, but anyway,

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Speaker 3: it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that

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Speaker 3: what they're doing is they're trying to they're trying to

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Speaker 3: build the fortifications and strengthen the military presence. Right, That's

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Speaker 3: what's up. So Peter Lewis, it's been keeping an eye

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Speaker 3: on Vlad, catching up with Kem and he'll be with

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Speaker 3: us and talk us through all of these developments. When

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Speaker 3: he's with us, just after half past sex. Also, I

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Speaker 3: almost forgot to mention this and the shame on me

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Speaker 3: for this, but Eden Park needs a little bit of

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Speaker 3: Business Awards in Manchester this week got the Event of

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Speaker 3: Course Stadium because the pair of them hosted obviously the

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Speaker 3: FIFA Women's World Cup twenty twenty three and that went

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Speaker 3: down really well and so they've won the Event of

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Speaker 3: the Year for that, but also won the Venue of

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Speaker 3: the Year award, beat out in that category the likes

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Speaker 3: of sun Corpse Stadium, AO Arena, Croke Park and Wembley Stadium.

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Speaker 3: So not half bad thirteen past.

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Speaker 1: Heither duper c Ellen sixteen pass six.

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Speaker 3: Barry Soaper, senior political correspondent, raps the political week that

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Speaker 3: was for us, of course this time every week. Welcome back, Barry,

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Speaker 3: Hello again, Heather. It sounds to me like we're going

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Speaker 3: to get a new plane, or a couple of new

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Speaker 3: planes for the Defense Force.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I think it's inevitable. I mean, you know, to

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Speaker 12: see what happened to us in Japan was embarrassing, and

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Speaker 12: I've seen it so many times before, having flown with

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Speaker 12: the uranzaf on a number of occasions. And it's not

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Speaker 12: their fault. These are old planes. The Vice President of

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01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:53,639
Speaker 12: the United States flies at seven five seven, So they're

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01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 12: very good planes. But it's like anything, if you don't

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01:14:57,360 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 12: use them, they're going to break down. And they're not

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01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:04,760
Speaker 12: They're used for haulage and you know, if we help

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01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 12: out New Caledonian places like that, they're used for that.

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01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:11,759
Speaker 12: But they're not used enough if you listen to defense.

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01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 12: So should we then go and buy a new plane? Well,

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Speaker 12: I think we've got to lock the part. If we

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Speaker 12: want to be a first world country. We're at the

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Speaker 12: bottom of the world. We're an eat support economy, and

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Speaker 12: there's nothing looks better and it is looks looks better

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Speaker 12: than an irenzav plane going onto the tarmac and the

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Speaker 12: red carpet being rolled out.

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Speaker 3: And I mean the looks the looks argument will only

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Speaker 3: get you so far, right. Actually, the more compelling argument

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Speaker 3: for me is that you cannot put the defense force

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Speaker 3: on a plane that they're not sure is going to work,

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Speaker 3: and then ask them to go to Antarctica or a

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Speaker 3: war zone or something like that, or an area where

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Speaker 3: there is a like a civil emergency happening. Right, they

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01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:58,080
Speaker 3: can't be in an unsafe vehicle unable to get out here.

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Speaker 3: But second of all, these plays are now costing us

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Speaker 3: what is it, thirty five million dollars a year. Actually,

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01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 3: at some point it becomes better finances to just buy

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Speaker 3: a new.

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Speaker 12: One and see, we concentrate on these planes and the

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01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 12: ability that they have to break down. They only used

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Speaker 12: as VIP aircraft about fifteen percent of the time, so

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Speaker 12: you know, it's a small part of it, but nevertheless,

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01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 12: you know, it's waving the flag and showing that we

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Speaker 12: are a country of some importance. We're tiny, but you

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Speaker 12: know we are a first world country. The other thing though,

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Speaker 12: that came out of the trip. That was the one

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Speaker 12: thing and the c Listers. You know, I think Chris Luxen,

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01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:43,080
Speaker 12: now that he's back in the country, will reflect on that.

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Speaker 12: He made it as an aside if you like, for

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01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 12: trips that he's been on in the past. Over the

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Speaker 12: past six years, he hasn't been on a lot, but

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Speaker 12: he's been on a few and I've got to say

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Speaker 12: the comment that he made was absolutely right. I've sat

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Speaker 12: down in the bucket section of the aircraft and locked

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01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 12: askance at some of the people that are on the

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01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:11,200
Speaker 12: plane and have thought to myself, what on earth are

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01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 12: they doing here? I mean, what business can they write

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01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:17,439
Speaker 12: other than getting in the Prime Minister's air And I

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01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 12: think that's the attraction in the past of many of

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Speaker 12: these businesses, small businesses that go on these aircraft. But now,

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Speaker 12: and you've got to look at the makeup of the

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01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:35,080
Speaker 12: current trip that they did. The businesses were well represented

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Speaker 12: by very senior organizations, not that they haven't been in

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01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 12: the past, but predominantly on this one, they were very

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Speaker 12: senior business brokers in this country if you like, and

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Speaker 12: they've done they did good business in Japan. So you know,

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01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:54,719
Speaker 12: if we want to Japan, our fourth biggest export market,

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01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 12: to improve, we've got to really put on a bit

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Speaker 12: of a show.

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Speaker 3: Do you think Jinda's taking these jobs overseas so she

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01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 3: doesn't have to come home?

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Speaker 12: Hah ha, Well, who knows? With us and our ongoing anger, Yeah, well,

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Speaker 12: you know this is all about, you know, global leadership

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01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:15,559
Speaker 12: and kindness and empathy. She said that it's run by

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Speaker 12: an organization called Global Progress and it will create a

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Speaker 12: network of like minded political leaders who use wait for it, pragmatism,

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Speaker 12: idealism and speak to people with a hope and optimism. Well,

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Speaker 12: I'm sorry. She may have had a lot of words

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Speaker 12: when she was Prime Minister, and she always talked about

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01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:43,520
Speaker 12: well being and kindness, but there are so many instances

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Speaker 12: during the COVID lockdowns where she was anything but and

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01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 12: she led the charge, and you know, I could name

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01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 12: so many instances where people felt as though, in fact

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Speaker 12: they're birthright. If you look at the people that were

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01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 12: held out of the cone who had New Zealand passports

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01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:04,639
Speaker 12: and had to win a lottery to get home, it's

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Speaker 12: unheard of in New Zealand. And that's hardly kind law,

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01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 12: no fair enough, Nor is it what well, it's hardly kind,

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Speaker 12: nor is it looking after people's well.

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Speaker 3: Being too fair? Hey, very quickly scrutiny. Week's been a success,

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Speaker 3: isn't it.

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Speaker 12: It has been.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's got a lot out of it.

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Speaker 12: It's given the opportunity I guess of opposition parties. So

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01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:27,439
Speaker 12: one thing that it's done is they can no longer

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01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:30,960
Speaker 12: complain that the government is not being held to account.

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Speaker 1: The number of.

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Speaker 12: Select Committee of the committees have been meeting throughout and

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01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:39,639
Speaker 12: all the senior ministers, including the Finance Minister, has appeared

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01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 12: before them for several hours, and so they cannot complain

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01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 12: now that the government has not been and hasn't been

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Speaker 12: held to account.

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Speaker 3: Barry, thank you very much, really appreciated. Barry Soper, Senior

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Speaker 3: political correspondent, rapping the political week that was six twenty two.

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Speaker 2: Everything from SMEs to the big corporates of the Business Hour.

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01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:03,280
Speaker 1: With Heather for Allen and my HR, the HR platform

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Speaker 1: for SME US.

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Speaker 3: Talk said b Peter Lewis is gonna be at us,

1705
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 3: as I said after the news talk us through words

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01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:11,479
Speaker 3: going on with North Korea. Now, get a load of this.

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01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:13,960
Speaker 3: I didn't realize this, but we just got our first

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01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 3: film written by Ai. It's called The Last Screenwriter and

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01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:20,760
Speaker 3: it was completely written by chat GPT in just four

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01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:22,920
Speaker 3: days time. So how it came about is that the

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Speaker 3: guy who's the director, he's a chap called Peter Luisi.

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Speaker 3: Think he's Swiss. He himself has accomplished right, He's already

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01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:33,600
Speaker 3: six times been nominated at the Swiss film Awards. I

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01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:36,599
Speaker 3: think three of them is you know, for screenwriting itself.

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01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:40,200
Speaker 3: So he didn't use chat GPT as like a shortcut.

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01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:42,479
Speaker 3: He did it to make a point, which is that

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Speaker 3: AI can do his job. Question is, of course, how

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01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:49,200
Speaker 3: well can AI do his job? So one day last December,

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01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:51,720
Speaker 3: he sat down in front of chat GPT and he

1720
01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 3: gave it this prompt, right write a plot for a

1721
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:59,360
Speaker 3: film where a screenwriter realizes he is less good than

1722
01:20:59,479 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 3: artificial intelligence. Over the next four days. He then had

1723
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:06,280
Speaker 3: to ask the pro because the first one lot was

1724
01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 3: a bit basic, and so he spent the next four

1725
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:10,960
Speaker 3: days just asking AI to just develop it a little

1726
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 3: bit more. So, he asked AI to create some characters,

1727
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:16,920
Speaker 3: then to flesh out the story, and then finally to

1728
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:20,200
Speaker 3: script the individual scenes. There were some problems because AI

1729
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:21,840
Speaker 3: has got problems, like some of the problems were like

1730
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 3: characters randomly just switching sex, like one starts out as

1731
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:27,280
Speaker 3: a dude nick minute as a girl. So he had

1732
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:29,040
Speaker 3: asked the program to go back in and do the

1733
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:30,600
Speaker 3: work again. In some places he had to cut some

1734
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:32,880
Speaker 3: scenes for length. He had to. I think that was

1735
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:35,600
Speaker 3: about the extent of it. Otherwise he forced himself to

1736
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:38,000
Speaker 3: work with whatever it was that AI had given him.

1737
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 3: In four days, he had a sixty one page screenplay

1738
01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:43,800
Speaker 3: on his desk. Now the question, of course this wasn't

1739
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 3: any good? Well, the story is about an award winning

1740
01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 3: screenwriter called Jack who experiences great financial success and a

1741
01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:54,599
Speaker 3: creative crisis when he collaborates with an experimental new AI program.

1742
01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:56,600
Speaker 3: And to answer the question, is it any good? No,

1743
01:21:56,720 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 3: it's not any good by the sounds of things. The

1744
01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:02,479
Speaker 3: Telegraph has watched it and said, every sentence in the

1745
01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 3: film is the most obvious version of itself. So you

1746
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:08,760
Speaker 3: know how like in a film, somebody might eat an

1747
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 3: apple and be like, hmm, so taste, so sweet and crunchy. Obviously,

1748
01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:16,760
Speaker 3: the most obvious thing is this apple is delicious, Like

1749
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:19,040
Speaker 3: it was basic as and just like to the point,

1750
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:24,000
Speaker 3: the odd screenwriting maxim, the old screenwriting maxim, show Don't

1751
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:27,720
Speaker 3: Tell is assiduously ignored. But sometimes the Telegraph said, there

1752
01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:29,680
Speaker 3: were moments where it was almost too good, Like there

1753
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:32,400
Speaker 3: was a passing literary reference or a piece of foreshadowing

1754
01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:34,800
Speaker 3: that hints at a deeper structure beneath the straightforward row

1755
01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:37,320
Speaker 3: of events. So there's promise there. I mean, this is

1756
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:39,599
Speaker 3: the first iteration of AI. Really that we've got right,

1757
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 3: so it can get better. Perhaps most intriguingly, says The Telegraph,

1758
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:46,479
Speaker 3: the AI has written itself a neat argument against the

1759
01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:49,519
Speaker 3: plagiarism claims. In an early scene, Jack tells his new

1760
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:53,400
Speaker 3: digital writing partner that it is essentially just a remix artist, like,

1761
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:57,320
Speaker 3: not a plagiarist, just a remix artist. The twist in

1762
01:22:57,400 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 3: this is that it sounds like it's going to be

1763
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:00,960
Speaker 3: a struggle to go and watch us, because it was

1764
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:03,839
Speaker 3: due to premier at London's Prince Charles Cinema on Sunday,

1765
01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:07,160
Speaker 3: but then it was canceled because they'd put that out

1766
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:09,240
Speaker 3: on social media on the Monday and they just got

1767
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:12,920
Speaker 3: absolutely slammed by Twitter accusing them of supporting blagiarism and

1768
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 3: stuff like that, so they canceled the premiere. So I

1769
01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 3: don't know if you ever going to see it. Headlines

1770
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:24,000
Speaker 3: next and then Peter lewis, if it's to.

1771
01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:26,240
Speaker 1: Do with money, it matters to you.

1772
01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:30,240
Speaker 2: The Business Hour with Heather Duplicy, Allen and my Hr,

1773
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:31,760
Speaker 2: the HR platform for.

1774
01:23:31,920 --> 01:24:00,439
Speaker 11: Sme US talk, said b.

1775
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:50,400
Speaker 3: Right, Gavin Gray is going to be with us out

1776
01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:53,639
Speaker 3: of the UK shortly. There is another little racism drama

1777
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:56,720
Speaker 3: in football in Europe. What a surprise. He'll talk us through.

1778
01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:59,519
Speaker 3: It's probably not what you're expecting, but it's still interesting.

1779
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:02,120
Speaker 3: None of the leads. Now, I've been getting texts like

1780
01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 3: this throughout the show. Hither what's happening with the Principles?

1781
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:06,960
Speaker 3: I noticed you still haven't had anybody from the Green

1782
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:08,439
Speaker 3: Party or the Marty Party on your show in the

1783
01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:10,519
Speaker 3: last couple of weeks. I am not responsible for the

1784
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:12,920
Speaker 3: Green Party and the Marty Party. We ask them all

1785
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:16,160
Speaker 3: the time, don't we. We really do, and I don't

1786
01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:19,639
Speaker 3: know why, but they just they're like, nah, nah, that's

1787
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:21,120
Speaker 3: even they even like I don't even know if the

1788
01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:24,759
Speaker 3: Marty Party even answers our phone calls anymore. So we're trying.

1789
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:26,679
Speaker 3: It's not it's not our problem. But anyway, on the Principles,

1790
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 3: I can help you out a little bit with that.

1791
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:30,479
Speaker 3: The story of the week on the show has got

1792
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:33,439
Speaker 3: to be the eighty Principles who spent part of their

1793
01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:36,720
Speaker 3: week not at school during school term, but at the

1794
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:40,040
Speaker 3: Hilton and Fiji. Now, as you know, for five six

1795
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:42,559
Speaker 3: hundred dollars flight not included. Now, as you know, we've

1796
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:44,360
Speaker 3: been trying for days to speak with Marshall. Who's the

1797
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:48,040
Speaker 3: guy who's running the conference over there. Marshall didn't really

1798
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:49,599
Speaker 3: want to speak to us, Remember, he wanted to speak

1799
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:51,840
Speaker 3: with Simon Barnett. But then when we are Simon Bonne,

1800
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 3: can you speak to Marshall? Simon didn't want to speak

1801
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:56,080
Speaker 3: to Marshall. So it got very awkward for everybody. But

1802
01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:58,400
Speaker 3: then this morning we heard from Marshall again. He sent

1803
01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:01,320
Speaker 3: us a text. He texted Producer Law He said, Hi, Laura,

1804
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:06,720
Speaker 3: here is our public communication for Simon. No need for

1805
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:09,760
Speaker 3: further communication. Of course Laura did not take the hint

1806
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:12,040
Speaker 3: and to send him more texts anyway, but I don't

1807
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:13,920
Speaker 3: think she's gonna be hearing from him. So anyway, we

1808
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:15,920
Speaker 3: clicked on the link. I don't know where this public

1809
01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:18,759
Speaker 3: communication for Simon is. There's nothing in there for Simon.

1810
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:21,280
Speaker 3: It was just a whole bunch of it would be

1811
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:24,519
Speaker 3: it would appear that what Marshall did was he catfished us.

1812
01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 3: He catfished us to going onto his website and then

1813
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:30,759
Speaker 3: telling you you can log on for next year. He's

1814
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:33,960
Speaker 3: taking registrations already, and it's the prices the same five thousand,

1815
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:36,639
Speaker 3: seven hundred dollars. That's about five thousand dollars plus GST.

1816
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:40,200
Speaker 3: And it's going to be in June twenty fourth of

1817
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:41,800
Speaker 3: June next year. So if I don't know if your

1818
01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:44,240
Speaker 3: school principle listening to this and you're thinking, how did

1819
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:46,120
Speaker 3: I miss out on that, well you don't have to.

1820
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:49,400
Speaker 3: You can go next year. You'll welcome Marshall twenty two

1821
01:25:49,439 --> 01:25:50,080
Speaker 3: away from seven.

1822
01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:51,840
Speaker 1: He the due Allen.

1823
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 3: Peter lewis our Asia business correspondence with US. Now, Peter, Hello,

1824
01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:59,120
Speaker 3: good Peter. I'll tell you what I found fascinating about

1825
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:02,120
Speaker 3: the Vladimir post an ENCAM meeting is just how they're

1826
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:03,759
Speaker 3: flaunting it. Isn't that interesting?

1827
01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:08,920
Speaker 13: Well, it's partly because there's very few places left that

1828
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 13: Vladimir Putin can go to to flaunt anything. He's seat

1829
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:15,960
Speaker 13: of become a bit of an international pariah since the

1830
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:19,200
Speaker 13: Ukraine War, and he wants to try and break that

1831
01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 13: isolation and try and posey up to some other countries.

1832
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:26,200
Speaker 13: But he's got two problems. One is that he can't

1833
01:26:26,240 --> 01:26:30,479
Speaker 13: really travel very far from Russia's borders now that he's

1834
01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:32,760
Speaker 13: got to share Russia has got a shared border with

1835
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:36,439
Speaker 13: North Korea, so that's fine. He can sail and fly

1836
01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:39,840
Speaker 13: through that he doesn't have a border with Yetnam, but

1837
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:44,280
Speaker 13: China's in the middle, so has got friendly relations with China.

1838
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:46,080
Speaker 13: And the other problem is he has to make sure

1839
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:49,680
Speaker 13: he goes to places to countries that are signatories for

1840
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:52,519
Speaker 13: the International Criminal Court because they've got the new rest

1841
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 13: warrant out for him. So it doesn't really leave him

1842
01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:59,719
Speaker 13: with many options other than North Korea. So this is why.

1843
01:27:00,160 --> 01:27:03,360
Speaker 13: And then KIMJ. Roinson in the same boat. He needs

1844
01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:06,559
Speaker 13: some more international friends as well. So they're really sort

1845
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:10,439
Speaker 13: of playing this up in terms of this agreement. They

1846
01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:13,960
Speaker 13: signed this mutual help agreement in that they would help

1847
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:17,840
Speaker 13: each other out in the cases of any aggression or

1848
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:21,400
Speaker 13: incidents or wars against them. They didn't elaborate on what

1849
01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:25,680
Speaker 13: they view as an incident, and they didn't elaborate either

1850
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 13: on what the response will be if that gets broken.

1851
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:31,800
Speaker 13: But it might have some unintended consequences. I mean, one

1852
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:35,840
Speaker 13: of them is seeing already is that South Korea, which

1853
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:39,479
Speaker 13: so far has refused to provide any sort of weapons

1854
01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:43,760
Speaker 13: to Ukraine, is now reconsidering that in the light of

1855
01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:47,519
Speaker 13: this new agreement here. So it's a very odd situation.

1856
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:50,519
Speaker 13: I think the one that's more interesting is the Vietnam.

1857
01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:53,400
Speaker 13: Now he's got the opportunity to go to Vietnam. I

1858
01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:56,320
Speaker 13: think the Vietnam are doing him a big favor here,

1859
01:27:56,880 --> 01:28:00,520
Speaker 13: and that they're exercising what they like to call bamboo cloonacy.

1860
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:05,440
Speaker 13: In other words, they're foreign policies. Like bamboo, it sways

1861
01:28:05,479 --> 01:28:08,479
Speaker 13: and bends in the wind, but it never breaks. And

1862
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:12,479
Speaker 13: Vietnam wants to be friends with everyone and have enemies

1863
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:17,280
Speaker 13: with no one. And it's becoming an increasingly important international

1864
01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:20,679
Speaker 13: partner because in the last few months, Joe Biden has visited,

1865
01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:26,000
Speaker 13: Pete has visited, and now Vladimir Pootin is there as well.

1866
01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:29,879
Speaker 13: So Vietnam is playing this game very well and exercise

1867
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:32,600
Speaker 13: with its bamboo diplomacy very nicely at the moments.

1868
01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:35,760
Speaker 3: Really interesting. The BBC today is running these photographs of

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01:28:35,960 --> 01:28:41,320
Speaker 3: these satellite shots of North Korea appearing to build fortifications

1870
01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:46,520
Speaker 3: or like a wall along its border with South Korea. Now, Peter, obviously,

1871
01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:49,639
Speaker 3: I mean they're obviously trying to strengthen their their their

1872
01:28:49,960 --> 01:28:53,600
Speaker 3: themselves militarily and strategically. I for the longest time have

1873
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:55,200
Speaker 3: just written them off as a bit of a joke.

1874
01:28:55,280 --> 01:28:57,240
Speaker 3: But am I making a mistake. There are they actually

1875
01:28:57,280 --> 01:28:57,679
Speaker 3: a threat?

1876
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:02,360
Speaker 13: In some ways? They are, you know, I mean, the

1877
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:05,720
Speaker 13: one thing that they're good at making, they don't make

1878
01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:08,040
Speaker 13: very much at all, and they don't make much very well,

1879
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:10,679
Speaker 13: but they do make a lot of ammunition and that's

1880
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:14,600
Speaker 13: been shipped to rush up through their shared borders. So

1881
01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:18,120
Speaker 13: there's really nothing anyone can do to stop this. Had

1882
01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:19,920
Speaker 13: it been going through a third party, they would have

1883
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:26,840
Speaker 13: been slapped with sanctions straight away. Well that's the worry.

1884
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:29,240
Speaker 13: I mean, there have been reports that, you know, some

1885
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:31,519
Speaker 13: of the weapons, some of the bombs have been found

1886
01:29:32,120 --> 01:29:38,160
Speaker 13: in various parts of Ukraine have North Korean markings on

1887
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:41,439
Speaker 13: them and therefore were clearly made in North Korea and

1888
01:29:41,479 --> 01:29:44,519
Speaker 13: do do damage. But what they don't have, it's the

1889
01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:47,640
Speaker 13: sort of advanced technology that they would really like to

1890
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:53,679
Speaker 13: launch sophisticated rockets to launch satellites into space. They really

1891
01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:57,360
Speaker 13: don't have that, and what kind j wrong would like

1892
01:29:57,439 --> 01:30:00,920
Speaker 13: to see if you can get some of that technology

1893
01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:05,320
Speaker 13: from Russia. But at the moments, I mean, they're certainly irritant.

1894
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:09,160
Speaker 13: They can certainly do damage, but they must know for

1895
01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:12,479
Speaker 13: sure that if they launched any sort of serious attack

1896
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:16,360
Speaker 13: on South Korea, the response for them could be fairly

1897
01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:19,320
Speaker 13: devastating in terms of what South Korea could do back

1898
01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:22,400
Speaker 13: and its allies with it. So there's a lot of

1899
01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:25,840
Speaker 13: bluster involved in this, but we shouldn't just write it off.

1900
01:30:26,120 --> 01:30:28,640
Speaker 13: There is always a risk that they could do some

1901
01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:29,639
Speaker 13: serious damage.

1902
01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:32,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, Peter, Hey, thank you. I always appreciate talking to you.

1903
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:34,240
Speaker 3: We'll talk to again next week. That's Peter Lewis our

1904
01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:38,360
Speaker 3: Asia Business correspondent, Heather. I'm very torn on who decided

1905
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:41,320
Speaker 3: with tomorrow and Auckland and Auckland are now Northlander, so

1906
01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:44,080
Speaker 3: I should be barracking for Auckland, but I love Damien McKenzie. Well,

1907
01:30:44,080 --> 01:30:45,400
Speaker 3: this is the problem that a lot of us have

1908
01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:47,880
Speaker 3: got because I'm the same as you. I reckon Damien

1909
01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:52,439
Speaker 3: McKenzie would be probably Yeah, I reckon. He might actually

1910
01:30:52,520 --> 01:30:56,519
Speaker 3: be my favorite favorite player. And so either way, whoever

1911
01:30:56,560 --> 01:30:58,360
Speaker 3: wins doesn't really bother me that much. And I'll be

1912
01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:00,320
Speaker 3: absolutely stoked if he's the first pick for the All

1913
01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:03,400
Speaker 3: Blacks next Monday. Now, I was just telling Laura producer

1914
01:31:03,479 --> 01:31:07,840
Speaker 3: Laura that I'm watching Bridgeton at the moment right because

1915
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 3: you'll be yeah, don't even tell me about it. I

1916
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:13,439
Speaker 3: know you've watched the six minute sixteen between Colin and Penelope,

1917
01:31:13,479 --> 01:31:15,840
Speaker 3: and you've got yourself all excited about it. And did

1918
01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:17,360
Speaker 3: you know they broke the couch as well, that they

1919
01:31:17,439 --> 01:31:20,320
Speaker 3: filmed that on in real life? Anyway, I'm not on

1920
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:22,400
Speaker 3: that season. I'm on season two, and I hate not

1921
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:24,920
Speaker 3: knowing what's going to happen. So I asked her if

1922
01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:26,880
Speaker 3: the eldest or the youngest charm is going to end

1923
01:31:26,920 --> 01:31:29,600
Speaker 3: up with Colin bridget with Anthony Bridgeton. She's already told me.

1924
01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:29,720
Speaker 4: So.

1925
01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:32,120
Speaker 3: Now I feel at peace because I was getting stressed

1926
01:31:32,120 --> 01:31:33,880
Speaker 3: out watching it. Now I can just watch it, and

1927
01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:36,120
Speaker 3: because I now know what happens at the end, and

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Speaker 3: it makes it a much more pleasant experience because it

1929
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Speaker 3: was very honestly, I don't even be that anxious just

1930
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Speaker 3: before bet. I mean, these people's lives were talking about

1931
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Speaker 3: what if they marry the wrong one? How will they

1932
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Speaker 3: live with themselves? Imagine that? Anyway. Then she said to me,

1933
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:55,000
Speaker 3: she's such a loser. She said to me, you know,

1934
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Speaker 3: you can get your own Bridgeton name. I've emailed it

1935
01:31:57,560 --> 01:31:59,400
Speaker 3: to myself. Hold on, let me find it what a

1936
01:31:59,439 --> 01:32:01,920
Speaker 3: loser like. Not only did she like see it, but

1937
01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:04,320
Speaker 3: then she emailed it to herself for talking for having

1938
01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:07,960
Speaker 3: a look back at later. Anyway, here you go. First

1939
01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:12,160
Speaker 3: I had yeah, yeah, First your lord or lady, okay,

1940
01:32:12,200 --> 01:32:13,680
Speaker 3: and I don't need to explain to you. If you're

1941
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:15,639
Speaker 3: a bloke, you're the lord, and if you're a chickie,

1942
01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:18,280
Speaker 3: you're the lady. Then you put your middle name. Okay,

1943
01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:21,720
Speaker 3: So I'm Lady Elizabeth. Then you have to take the

1944
01:32:21,800 --> 01:32:24,519
Speaker 3: last thing that you drank, and you have to put

1945
01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:27,400
Speaker 3: ton at the end. Now, I did not want to

1946
01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:30,679
Speaker 3: be Lady Elizabeth's smoothie ton, so I very quickly drank

1947
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Speaker 3: a bit of water. I am Lady Elizabeth Waterton. That's

1948
01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:38,800
Speaker 3: not a bad name, hey, Waterton. Anyway. Then after that

1949
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Speaker 3: you add of, like Lady Elizabeth Waterton of, and then

1950
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:46,240
Speaker 3: you put your street name, and then you put Shier

1951
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Speaker 3: at the end. So if I was to live, I

1952
01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:49,240
Speaker 3: work on Graham Street. I'm not going to tell you

1953
01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:52,160
Speaker 3: where I live if I was, because I'm just.

1954
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Speaker 19: Going to say this is sounding more and more like

1955
01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:55,360
Speaker 19: an Internet scam. More we go through it, yeah.

1956
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Speaker 3: And produce the Laura is going to come find me

1957
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Speaker 3: at my house. She'll track me down anyway, I work on.

1958
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Speaker 19: I'm here to see Lady Smootheaton.

1959
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Speaker 3: I'm look on Graham Street. So I'm Lady Elizabeth Waterton

1960
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Speaker 3: of Grahamshire. There you go. You're welcome anyway, go and

1961
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Speaker 3: watch Bridgeton if you haven't caught upyet. It is actually

1962
01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:14,400
Speaker 3: quite good quarter.

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Speaker 1: To crunching the numbers and getting the results.

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Speaker 2: It's Heather Dupe Helen with the Business hours thanks to

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Speaker 2: my HR the HL platform for news Talk CB.

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Speaker 3: Kevin Gray is our UK correspondent with US now even

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Speaker 3: in Gvin, Hi, he how bad does this?

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Speaker 23: Heck yeah, it's it's got really quite nasty now. So

1969
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:38,200
Speaker 23: this was potentially one of the worst ever cyber attacks

1970
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Speaker 23: in the UK, with more than one thousand hospital and

1971
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Speaker 23: GP appointments affected. That's general practitioner local doctor appointments affected.

1972
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Speaker 23: Operations also canceled by the disruption to pathology services. The

1973
01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:54,160
Speaker 23: hack was to a company called Synovis now. They are

1974
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Speaker 23: a provider to the National Health Service, particularly over basically

1975
01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:06,840
Speaker 23: blood testing and overnight the ransomware company has really come

1976
01:34:06,880 --> 01:34:11,000
Speaker 23: out and dumped four hundred gigabytes of private information on

1977
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Speaker 23: their darknet site and telegram channel. The data includes patient names,

1978
01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:19,160
Speaker 23: dates of birth, national health service numbers and then descriptions

1979
01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:21,880
Speaker 23: of blood tests. We don't yet know if test results

1980
01:34:21,920 --> 01:34:26,040
Speaker 23: are also in the data. There are also financial spreadsheets

1981
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Speaker 23: detailing the contracts between hospitals, the local doctors and this

1982
01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:33,600
Speaker 23: company too, so it is a massive fallout from this.

1983
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Speaker 23: What would suggest that's happened is that the National Health Service,

1984
01:34:38,640 --> 01:34:42,479
Speaker 23: indeed Synovis, have refused to come up with any money

1985
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Speaker 23: and to pay ransom for this hack to go away,

1986
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Speaker 23: and that's why we've seen this data now being published.

1987
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Speaker 23: Apparently healthcare is now the industry for these hackers to

1988
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Speaker 23: try and get into. It's thought to be this group

1989
01:34:54,800 --> 01:35:00,360
Speaker 23: called Keeling QILM, and they've apparently made now the sort

1990
01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:03,479
Speaker 23: of health services a big target after one health group

1991
01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:08,080
Speaker 23: reportedly paid out roughly thirty eight million New Zealand dollars

1992
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Speaker 23: earlier this year for.

1993
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Speaker 3: A similar hack givin this bitting scandal that's going on

1994
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Speaker 3: with the election date? Is this going to weigh on

1995
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Speaker 3: Rishi's popularity, what little there is left.

1996
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Speaker 23: Of it, well and his credibility. I mean, I think

1997
01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:24,559
Speaker 23: this is really really damaging to him. So he was

1998
01:35:24,600 --> 01:35:27,960
Speaker 23: on TV last night in a televised debate one to

1999
01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:31,479
Speaker 23: one with the other leaders of the other three other

2000
01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:35,000
Speaker 23: main parties, and in that he was asked first question,

2001
01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:39,800
Speaker 23: straight off the bat about these claims that a candidate

2002
01:35:40,200 --> 01:35:43,559
Speaker 23: had laid a bet on the date of the election

2003
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Speaker 23: and that her husband, who was campaign director of Rishi

2004
01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:53,200
Speaker 23: Sunac's team, is also in the frame for allegedly placing

2005
01:35:53,200 --> 01:35:56,639
Speaker 23: a bet. Rishi Sunak said he's incredibly angry with the quote,

2006
01:35:57,200 --> 01:35:59,519
Speaker 23: and then said, but he couldn't say much because all

2007
01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:03,120
Speaker 23: this is being investigated, and indeed it is. But you know,

2008
01:36:03,320 --> 01:36:06,800
Speaker 23: the abuse of the gambling has very tough laws here

2009
01:36:06,840 --> 01:36:09,920
Speaker 23: and could be a criminal offense if it's proven. Now

2010
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Speaker 23: all those involved are denying responsibility. But not only now.

2011
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Speaker 23: Is it three Conservatives who were either candidates or quite

2012
01:36:17,920 --> 01:36:20,720
Speaker 23: high up in the machinations of the Conservative Party that

2013
01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:22,559
Speaker 23: our alleged to put a bet on the date of

2014
01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:26,560
Speaker 23: the election, but also one of the senior protection officers

2015
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Speaker 23: of the Prime minister. And you do begin to think, well,

2016
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Speaker 23: hang on a minute. You know, surely everyone was told

2017
01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:34,679
Speaker 23: this is illegal and you can't do it. The date

2018
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Speaker 23: was a surprise. The date of July the fourth for

2019
01:36:37,120 --> 01:36:39,720
Speaker 23: the general election was a surprise to most people. So

2020
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Speaker 23: the odds of a July the fourth would have been

2021
01:36:42,200 --> 01:36:45,559
Speaker 23: high at the bookmakers. And well it's had this effect.

2022
01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:47,800
Speaker 23: And as I said, I really think it's a grip

2023
01:36:48,479 --> 01:36:50,760
Speaker 23: thing against the Prime Minister and its credibility.

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Speaker 2: Kevin.

2025
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Speaker 3: I mean the fact that so many of them, I mean,

2026
01:36:53,240 --> 01:36:55,960
Speaker 3: if one of them had gone a bit, you would think, okay,

2027
01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:57,920
Speaker 3: that's really not cool. But the fact that so many

2028
01:36:57,960 --> 01:36:59,880
Speaker 3: have done that, does that suggest that they've actually been

2029
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:01,760
Speaker 3: discussing it amongst themselves.

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Speaker 23: Or that are very wide full of people were discussing it. Yeah,

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01:37:06,640 --> 01:37:11,160
Speaker 23: and they're simply beyond the fringes of it. And I mean,

2032
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Speaker 23: you just think it really digs in the credibility of politicians,

2033
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Speaker 23: the integrity, the honesty of politicians. And I don't just

2034
01:37:19,840 --> 01:37:22,679
Speaker 23: mean Richie, I do mean all round. And indeed that's

2035
01:37:22,760 --> 01:37:25,880
Speaker 23: been a theme for many of the campaigns with less

2036
01:37:25,880 --> 01:37:27,800
Speaker 23: than two weeks to go now before the general election,

2037
01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:30,880
Speaker 23: about trying to get integrity back into politics is what

2038
01:37:30,920 --> 01:37:33,760
Speaker 23: the opposition parties are saying. But of course you know

2039
01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:35,800
Speaker 23: it's it's those other people. I mean, how could Richie

2040
01:37:35,800 --> 01:37:39,080
Speaker 23: Sinac have much sway over what a role protection or

2041
01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:41,639
Speaker 23: rather what a protection squad officer from the police would

2042
01:37:41,640 --> 01:37:44,960
Speaker 23: say if it's alleged that that is true as well,

2043
01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:48,240
Speaker 23: So gosh, they're really I think it's down to trust

2044
01:37:48,320 --> 01:37:51,200
Speaker 23: and that's a very very important word in an election to.

2045
01:37:51,280 --> 01:37:53,040
Speaker 3: Write it does Gevin, thank you very much. Talk to

2046
01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:56,000
Speaker 3: you on Monday. Devin Gray are UK correspondent anyway from seven,

2047
01:37:56,560 --> 01:37:57,120
Speaker 3: whether it's.

2048
01:37:57,160 --> 01:38:00,800
Speaker 2: Micro micro or just playing economics, it's all on The

2049
01:38:00,840 --> 01:38:04,560
Speaker 2: Business Hour with Heather Duplicy, Allen and my HR, the

2050
01:38:04,760 --> 01:38:07,080
Speaker 2: HR platform for sme Usalip.

2051
01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:13,240
Speaker 3: Literally literally as the ad was ending, Laura was like

2052
01:38:13,560 --> 01:38:16,160
Speaker 3: did you know? And giving me all these Bridgeton facts

2053
01:38:16,200 --> 01:38:18,880
Speaker 3: and was so deep in Bridgitton facts I don't even

2054
01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:20,479
Speaker 3: know what the set. The first one was pretty sillatious,

2055
01:38:20,520 --> 01:38:22,439
Speaker 3: second one I didn't get, but she was taught. She like,

2056
01:38:23,120 --> 01:38:25,599
Speaker 3: how long have you been doing this job? Laura?

2057
01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:26,679
Speaker 4: Like you you?

2058
01:38:26,680 --> 01:38:29,559
Speaker 3: You were doing it with Larry, weren't you? And still

2059
01:38:29,640 --> 01:38:32,400
Speaker 3: six years? Six years and that's the potent. She went

2060
01:38:32,439 --> 01:38:33,400
Speaker 3: to tv Z as well.

2061
01:38:33,280 --> 01:38:35,280
Speaker 19: So that's just the six year since she came back.

2062
01:38:35,200 --> 01:38:40,040
Speaker 3: So cumulatively heaps longer, but so excited by Bridgeton that

2063
01:38:40,200 --> 01:38:42,439
Speaker 3: forgot that the ad was ending. That is how excited

2064
01:38:42,479 --> 01:38:42,800
Speaker 3: Laura is.

2065
01:38:42,840 --> 01:38:44,840
Speaker 19: Laura I mean, some things are important here, like our

2066
01:38:44,920 --> 01:38:47,200
Speaker 19: radio show, but talking about Bridgington with your colleagues, that's

2067
01:38:47,200 --> 01:38:48,480
Speaker 19: clearly more important obviously.

2068
01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:51,000
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean jeez that So anyway, what I'm

2069
01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:52,960
Speaker 3: trying to tell you is are you watching it? Because

2070
01:38:53,400 --> 01:38:55,960
Speaker 3: you should be just really quickly. Okay, you know, I

2071
01:38:55,960 --> 01:38:58,080
Speaker 3: give cycle ways a whole bunch of crap because they

2072
01:38:58,080 --> 01:38:59,760
Speaker 3: deserve it, and like, look at the stuff that that

2073
01:39:00,240 --> 01:39:01,680
Speaker 3: look at look at what it does to people, look

2074
01:39:01,680 --> 01:39:03,760
Speaker 3: at what it does to businesses. But I'm going to

2075
01:39:03,800 --> 01:39:07,639
Speaker 3: give some credit to Tasman District Council because they put

2076
01:39:07,680 --> 01:39:12,000
Speaker 3: in in Richmond a terrible cycle way, but they've realized

2077
01:39:12,040 --> 01:39:14,280
Speaker 3: it's terrible and they're going to fix the situation. Now

2078
01:39:14,320 --> 01:39:16,480
Speaker 3: they're not actually getting rid of the cycle way altogether,

2079
01:39:16,880 --> 01:39:18,920
Speaker 3: but what they've done is they put the cycle away

2080
01:39:18,920 --> 01:39:22,040
Speaker 3: and then between the cycleway and the road. Normally you'd

2081
01:39:22,080 --> 01:39:23,760
Speaker 3: have something like head sticks, do you know what I mean,

2082
01:39:23,840 --> 01:39:27,000
Speaker 3: like those head sticks to kind of create a barrier

2083
01:39:27,080 --> 01:39:28,920
Speaker 3: or something, or just a painted line. But what they

2084
01:39:28,920 --> 01:39:30,720
Speaker 3: did was they had a painted line and then they

2085
01:39:30,760 --> 01:39:33,360
Speaker 3: also had these like little clumps, like these little concrete

2086
01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:35,800
Speaker 3: clumps that were maybe I want to say like three

2087
01:39:35,800 --> 01:39:38,680
Speaker 3: inches or four inches high, and you could hardly see them.

2088
01:39:38,720 --> 01:39:40,519
Speaker 3: And so what was happening was cars were heading them

2089
01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:43,799
Speaker 3: and knocking them off and eventually like crumbling them, eventually

2090
01:39:43,880 --> 01:39:45,599
Speaker 3: just wearing them off the road, and then they were

2091
01:39:45,680 --> 01:39:47,719
Speaker 3: ending up in the cycle way, and then the cyclists

2092
01:39:47,760 --> 01:39:49,800
Speaker 3: were heading them and falling into the road, which is

2093
01:39:49,840 --> 01:39:53,320
Speaker 3: like making things worse. They've now realized that. That is,

2094
01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:56,200
Speaker 3: they realized they've made the situation worse for cyclists, and

2095
01:39:56,200 --> 01:39:58,080
Speaker 3: they're going to remove it. They're going to do something

2096
01:39:58,160 --> 01:40:01,240
Speaker 3: else good on them, because there's no it's bad that

2097
01:40:01,280 --> 01:40:03,200
Speaker 3: you made a mistake, but the worst thing would be

2098
01:40:03,200 --> 01:40:05,320
Speaker 3: to stick with the mistake. It's good to realize it

2099
01:40:05,320 --> 01:40:05,840
Speaker 3: and fix it.

2100
01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:09,400
Speaker 19: And I've got a new Lord. Lord has unexpectedly popped

2101
01:40:09,439 --> 01:40:11,559
Speaker 19: up in a remix of a Charlie XCX song that

2102
01:40:11,680 --> 01:40:14,639
Speaker 19: was just released. It's called the Girl So confusing version

2103
01:40:14,760 --> 01:40:16,800
Speaker 19: with Lord. There's a whole backstory as to why Charlie

2104
01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:18,800
Speaker 19: XCX is randomly asked Lord to be on a remix

2105
01:40:18,800 --> 01:40:20,519
Speaker 19: of one of her songs. But go look that up

2106
01:40:20,520 --> 01:40:21,800
Speaker 19: on the internet. Let's listen to new Lord.

2107
01:40:21,880 --> 01:40:22,680
Speaker 4: Is it salacious?

2108
01:40:23,920 --> 01:40:27,240
Speaker 3: I've called the rude Butts out Carol's meaning the story.

2109
01:40:27,640 --> 01:40:29,360
Speaker 19: Yeah yeah, no no yeah, Well if your Lord does

2110
01:40:29,400 --> 01:40:31,120
Speaker 19: talk about having an eating disorder in the song, so

2111
01:40:31,200 --> 01:40:32,040
Speaker 19: that could be a backstory.

2112
01:40:32,360 --> 01:40:33,639
Speaker 3: Here you go, see you on Monday.

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Speaker 4: Enjoy the Rugby.

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