1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Jason Wall's political editor at News Talk zibers with with 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: us Hello. 3 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 2: Jason, Hello, Hell, how are y? 4 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: I'm well? Thank you? How much trouble Zerica in? 5 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 2: Well, we'll have to remain see there were questions from 6 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 2: TV and ZAD political editor Mikey Sherman. So I would 7 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 2: imagine in about an hour and ten minutes time she'll 8 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 2: have some of the details. But you know, from what 9 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 2: we heard from the Prime minister, and as I understand 10 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 2: that you played a clip before, he seemed quote pretty 11 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 2: relaxed about it, as he said a number of times. 12 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 2: So we'll have to see how damaging it is. Tomorrow 13 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 2: we'll be doing at We've got the caucus run where 14 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 2: we talk to the lacks of Erica and others, so 15 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 2: we'll see what her response is. But yeah, first blush 16 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: of it, it's probably a distraction that the Prime Minister 17 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 2: doesn't want. 18 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: I mean, he's probably relaxed about it, Jason, because I 19 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: don't know the detail. We only know as much as 20 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: we've heard in the post cabinet press conference. But if 21 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: at this moment it's a theoretical problem, isn't it. She 22 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: sent some emails, but have they been hacked? Have they 23 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: been exploited. Probably not, and unless they have, it's just theoretical. Well, 24 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: it comes down to. 25 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: The Cabinet Manual and it technically says on a number 26 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 2: of places that you can only do various different things 27 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 2: on government official devices, and it does. And I think 28 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 2: there will be a connection made to Hillary Clinton back 29 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen, and that either email saga there or 30 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 2: there could be some connection made. But yeah, well we'll 31 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 2: have to see. The thing that came out for me. 32 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,559 Speaker 2: As I was listening to is Luxon kept talking about 33 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 2: how she couldn't get her settings right, and I thought, 34 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 2: good God, the crown. Yeah, well she's a minister of 35 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:23,559 Speaker 2: the crowd. 36 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 3: She couldn't give the settings rightly. 37 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: No, I can't get you. I don't know how to 38 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: do printing at work yet. And I've been in this 39 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: office for how long have I been here, Laura? Six 40 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: years now, I've been back for that long. Yeah, I 41 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: can't work the printers, can you. 42 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 2: Well? I actually sat all the summer sat next to 43 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 2: the printer that you're is in the z B office, 44 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: and I would say it is it can smell fear. 45 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: If you need something really quickly, it's not going to 46 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:46,199 Speaker 2: Premier for you. 47 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: I think we all understand. We can understand. I don't 48 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: really understand how Gmail fixed her printed problem, but we 49 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: understand that fundamental problem. Hey, so we've got some people 50 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: in India right now to try and kick off the negotiations. 51 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's what the Prime Minister was talking about 52 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: post cab today. It seemed to be the thrust of 53 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 2: what he was talking about. Him and Todd McClay. But 54 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 2: the Prime Minister likes to call him Trade McLay, which 55 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 2: is very fitting given that he is the Trade minister. 56 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:12,959 Speaker 2: So there's somebody right now over in India, and there's 57 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 2: they've started to kick off these negotiations. But I'll tell 58 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 2: you what I mean, we all knew that was coming. 59 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 2: It's not really all that exciting. The exciting thing for 60 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 2: me is when the journalist started asking about these Trump 61 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 2: tariffs on movies produced in foreign land. You might have 62 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 2: seen this truth social post where he said, we want 63 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 2: more movies made in America again, which was news to me. 64 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 2: I thought they were all made in America, but clearly not. 65 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: Now Chris Luck Jason stopped talking right now, have you 66 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: not watched The Lord of the Rings? 67 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: Wait, tell me more about the Lord of the Rings. 68 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 2: You know where that except to me, there are some 69 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 2: movies media. Well anyway, maybe my ignorance was a little 70 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: bit naive on that because obviously a big center of 71 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 2: the world is Bollywood. Now, when the Prime Minister was 72 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 2: over in India, he was really talking up New Zealand's 73 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: movie production sector. Then he said this. 74 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 3: Which I just think is truly world class. You know, 75 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 3: I've been advocating for it. And then dear, for that 76 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 3: exact same reason, what would it take to get more 77 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 3: Bollywood productions here in New Zealand. 78 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 2: So clearly the Prime Minister wants to pivot to Bollywood 79 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 2: and get a few more Kiwi movies made for that market. 80 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 3: I mean, they have made movies here in New Zealand 81 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 3: and the last twenty years or so, and my question 82 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 3: to them was what else would it take for you 83 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 3: to do more productions here in New Zealand. 84 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 2: And as we see these Trump tariffs come into effect, 85 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 2: we're going to see a lot more of this, these 86 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 2: pivoting to other countries. 87 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: Tell me about this poll, I'm surprised that Pete that 88 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: that a majority of us want to see man and 89 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: woman defined in legislation are you, Oh. 90 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 2: Well, I honestly, no, I'm not. I thought that these 91 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 2: numbers were about right. I mean, you kind of get 92 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 2: a skewed view of things if you read various different 93 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 2: people talking about it. But basically, this is a curier 94 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 2: pole into Winston Peters's bill that wants to define a 95 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 2: woman as an adult human biological female. So so it 96 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 2: was courreier that it was Family First that did this polling, 97 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 2: fifty two percent of us support this bill, with twenty 98 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 2: nine percent of us opposed and nineteen percent. 99 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: And sure, and obviously higher amongst you know, the governing 100 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: parties who leaned to the right, and then not so 101 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: much you know, in the opposition parties that leans to 102 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: the left. But why I'm surprised, Jason's because I didn't 103 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: think that it would have had the cut through, that 104 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: kind of cut through to have fifty two percent wanting it. 105 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 2: It was about well, I mean, you can't really get 106 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 2: away from a question like this. I mean, it's been reported, 107 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 2: it was reported quite widely. I was overseas when it happened. 108 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 2: I was sunning myself on the beach and mold Beeves, 109 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 2: and I was reading about this, a bill that Winston 110 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 2: Peters has put into the ballot, so clearly I had 111 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 2: some sort of cut through if it's getting to me, 112 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 2: although I am a bit of a political tragic on 113 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 2: the other side of the world, but it's something that 114 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 2: a lot of people have been thinking about for some time. 115 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 2: Clearly there were fifteen one hundred. A random selection of 116 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 2: fifteen thousand New Zealand phone numbers was used in this 117 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 2: as the sample section of tould interesting. 118 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: Thank you, Jason, appreciate it Jason Wall's News Talks it 119 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: be political editor. Did you get the humble brag Jason's 120 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: been traveling? For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive. Listen 121 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: live to News Talk SETB from four pm weekdays, or 122 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.