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Speaker 1: So government wants to cull all eleven regional councils across

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Speaker 1: the country. Instead, their consenting powers will be given to

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Speaker 1: the city and district mayors, who will form another form

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Speaker 1: of council to make region wide decisions. Hillary Calvert's Otaga

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Speaker 1: Regional Council chare with me this morning, haud be out

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Speaker 1: of a job if these went through Hillary, Good morning,

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Speaker 1: Good morning thoughts.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's sort of been a while coming regional councils,

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Speaker 2: and that the feeling that there's perhaps one too many

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Speaker 2: layers of decisions and activity and local government in New Zealand,

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Speaker 2: I think and.

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Speaker 1: You agree with that, you'd be happy to be out

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Speaker 1: of a job.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I am probably one of the one of the

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Speaker 2: turkeys who would organize Christmas. Not not because I would

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Speaker 2: like to be out of a job, because I've just

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Speaker 2: got into it and having been chosen as year by

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Speaker 2: my fellow counselors. It is a bit sad the thought

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Speaker 2: that I can't continue to do that, but for the

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Speaker 2: sake of the Otago Region people and the ratepayers. I

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Speaker 2: can see where the government's coming from.

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Speaker 1: How many staff work at the Otago Regional Council.

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Speaker 2: Are I think three hundred and sixty eight to something. Wow,

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Speaker 2: so there's twice as many as there was six years.

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Speaker 3: Ago and are doing yeah, well, a lot of planning

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Speaker 3: and that's probably an area that the government is particularly

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Speaker 3: focused on because of what the awkwardness about planning is

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Speaker 3: that the government makes rules like here's what water should

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Speaker 3: be like, and you should go and make a plan

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Speaker 3: about how are you going to do that? And then

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Speaker 3: we go and make a plan about the water and

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Speaker 3: that it's done every five years or whatever it's done,

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Speaker 3: and in it the people below us, the territorial authorities,

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Speaker 3: then they make plans to carry out what we tell

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Speaker 3: them to do. And that also is a plan that

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Speaker 3: might be five yearly and it might have been two

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Speaker 3: years after the plan that we've made and so and

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Speaker 3: there's another one below that. So the government it's all

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Speaker 3: out of step and it doesn't produce good, good results

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Speaker 3: really because it hasn't got a clear pathway because.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's just sitting around writing plans out of date ones

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Speaker 1: at that. Hillary, appreciate your time this morning, Hillary Calbot

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Speaker 1: Otago Regional Council Chair. For more from early edition with

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