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Speaker 1: Jason pines with us. Hey Jason, Hey, Ryan, So what

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Speaker 1: do you reckon Raiser. We're two year point now of

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Speaker 1: his coaching tenure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, as of the text you're getting, the ones I

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Speaker 2: got on Weekend Sport were very measured yesterday. Yes, you

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Speaker 2: can probably imagine in reaction to what happened at Twickenham.

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Speaker 2: You're right, two years and they're not gonna let him go.

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Speaker 2: They're not gonna sack them unless they were to lose

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Speaker 2: to Wales. I think we might have a different conversation

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Speaker 2: if they lost to Wales. But I think we all

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Speaker 2: need to accept that that Scott Robertson has taken the

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Speaker 2: your Blackston and to the next World Cup. But I

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Speaker 2: think what we all need to see and what should

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Speaker 2: be asked of Robertson is what is the plan to

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Speaker 2: get us there in good shape? Because I just don't

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Speaker 2: feel as though there's been enough improvement or any improvement

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Speaker 2: really from the team that he took charge of at

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Speaker 2: the start of twenty twenty four, and it's hard to

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Speaker 2: feel confident about the next Rugby World Cup off the

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Speaker 2: backdrop of not just yesterday, but losses to Argentina, to

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Speaker 2: South Africa and other sort of inconsistent performances even when

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Speaker 2: the All Blacks have one test. So look, the rugby public,

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Speaker 2: I think is right to want to know what the

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Speaker 2: plan is, and yeah, he's got a couple of years

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Speaker 2: to sort out exactly what that is, and I guess

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Speaker 2: sell it to.

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Speaker 1: Us well and hopefully it'll turn itself around. Now, Silver

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Speaker 1: Ferns England, so the one now in the series? Can

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Speaker 1: they finish it off with a wind?

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Speaker 2: Do we think you think so, wouldn't you? Yeah? The

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Speaker 2: crazier this is the schoorelines were identical in the first

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Speaker 2: two tests, sixty one to fifty eight to New Zealand

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Speaker 2: in the first one, sixty one fifty eight to England

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Speaker 2: in the second. So it demonstrates how close these two are.

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Speaker 2: The rankings for what they're worth. New Zealand a second

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Speaker 2: in the world, England are fourth, but we're playing in England,

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Speaker 2: so I guess the home advantage brings it back a

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Speaker 2: little bit. It feels to me as though this is

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Speaker 2: the end of a very long and exhausting off court

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Speaker 2: year for the Silver Ferns. It would be nice, wouldn't

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Speaker 2: it to think that they could finish it on the

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Speaker 2: court with a victory. So what's that Thursday morning up

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Speaker 2: in Manchester. Let's hope they can finish on a high

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Speaker 2: and go into Commonwealth Games year with a blow momentum.

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Speaker 1: It's funny because we've got the All Blacks and they

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Speaker 1: have one bad test and everyone's like, ah, sack the

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Speaker 1: coach and then the and netball. The coach situation obviously

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Speaker 1: quite fluid, and yet they've been doing quite well all

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Speaker 1: things considered.

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Speaker 2: Odd, isn't it? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: It does the coach really matter? Hey, appreciate your time.

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Speaker 1: Jason Pine from News talksb Sport.

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