1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Ryan Bridge on 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: an early edition with one Root Love where you Live 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 1: News Talks. 4 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 2: It'd be good morning. It is six after five GDP 5 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 2: day today. We'll head to Westpac. We've got employment numbers 6 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 2: from Seek for you. We'll go to Washington's Senate hearings 7 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 2: underway there and Westport Whale route is Gonski. We'll ask 8 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 2: why the agenda. Thursday, the nineteenth of March. Israel's hunting 9 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: Iranian leaders is in their hideouts and taking them out 10 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 2: one by one. They've got the intelligence minister overnight. 11 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 3: This is meant to enable the brave people of Iran 12 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 3: to celebrate the Festival of Fire. So celebrate and happy 13 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 3: in orders. We're watching from above. 14 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 4: Now. 15 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: Trump's pick to run this is in the US Homeland 16 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 2: Security Mark Wwayne Mullen is his name replaced Tulsey Gabbard. 17 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 2: He's getting grilled in the Senate. 18 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 5: I don't believe in political violence. I've made that very clear, 19 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 5: but sometimes theoretically speaking, this sir, I get it. It's 20 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 5: about character assassination. For you, that's the way this game 21 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 5: is played. Understand it. And you are making this about you, 22 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 5: which is fine, but that doesn't keep me as soxscascination 23 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 5: when you are the one lighting the assault. 24 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 2: All right, settle down, separate hearing underway on Capital Hell. 25 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 2: Will the Russians or Iran or anyone else meddle in 26 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 2: the midterms? 27 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 6: Are you saying there is no foreign threat to our 28 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 6: elections in the midterms this year? 29 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 7: As I stated in the outset of my remarks, this 30 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 7: year's annual Threat Assessment matches the prioritization of threats and. 31 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: Answer the question yes or no? 32 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 6: Is there foreign threat interference to our elections? 33 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 8: As she laid out, are there foreign please allow me 34 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 8: to answer the questions. 35 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 2: Seems like that was useful. Let's go to Australia. Kyle 36 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 2: and Jackie Oh, this is the Sydney They were then 37 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: syndicated to Melbourne Radio show Music radio show, but a 38 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 2: lot of talking and a lot of content in there 39 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: as well. Kyl Sandalan's has had his contract terminated by 40 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 2: ARN after an on air row with Jackie O last month. 41 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 2: Now both hosts a threatening legal election. 42 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 6: Oh sand Lands is going on about these hundred billion 43 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 6: dollar contract i'lean my. 44 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 2: God forgive me here he is again quite a lot 45 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 2: of money, isn't it. 46 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 6: Oh sand Lands is going on about these hundred billion 47 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 6: dollar contract I mean, my god, We've got people who 48 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 6: can't put a roof over their head, and people who 49 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 6: can't grow fuel in their tanks to fill up there 50 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 6: to fill up their tractors, and he's worried about his 51 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 6: ten million dollar contract with Jackie Oh. 52 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, goodness, what a goose. Get ahead of 53 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: the headlines on early edition with Ryan Bridge and one 54 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 1: roof Love where you Live News Talks, that'd. 55 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 2: Be eight after five. We've got the oil price spiking, futures, 56 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 2: brink cruise spiking to one hundred and eight dollars a 57 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 2: barrel overnight. I'll bring you more on that in a second. 58 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 2: But if you are driving your car and you you know, 59 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 2: have the luxury of putting petrol on it, at the moment, 60 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 2: a lot of us are speeding, at least they're issuing 61 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 2: more fines. So there's new numbers on this. Five hundred 62 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 2: and thirty eight thousand fines over twenty twenty five, more 63 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 2: than half a million. The total for twenty four was 64 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 2: four hundred and sixty thousand, and the total for twenty 65 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 2: three was four hundred thousand, So it's going up and 66 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 2: up and up. This is the highest number in fifteen years. 67 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 2: They reckon and think with about the fines I got 68 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 2: to find over the Christmas period because I was going 69 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 2: just to clip over one hundred and the police officer. 70 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 2: And this is not a stationary cameras, this is just 71 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 2: police officers issuing fine. So five hundred and thirty eight 72 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 2: thousand is quite a lot. I got a fine over 73 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 2: the summer and for going just over and it was 74 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 2: he told me it was going to be thirty dollars fine. 75 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 2: Is that really going to change your behavior if you 76 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:39,839 Speaker 2: if you get a thirty dollar fine in the mail. 77 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 2: I've had parking fines twice that amount, you know, and 78 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 2: I am I saying it's put up the fines. Well, 79 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 2: it's an easy way. It's an easy way to try. 80 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 2: And if you believe that slower cars will mean fewer accidents, 81 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 2: then it would be an easy way to do it, 82 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 2: wouldn't it. Look it Over in Australia they have much 83 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 2: steeper fines and people are frightened to even go at 84 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 2: you an inch over the speed limit there, So six 85 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 2: hundred and thirty dollars in an immediate loss of license. 86 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 2: That's what you get if you're fifty sorry, forty six 87 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 2: to fifty k's over the limit, So there you go. 88 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 2: They're eshering more fines, lots more than usual. If you 89 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 2: were into seeing the Abs in France at Kaha Stadium 90 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 2: in christ Church one New Zealand Stadium, then you're out 91 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 2: of luck because the tickets have sold out in the 92 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 2: space of four hours. July four is the test, thirty 93 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 2: thousand capacity stadium and it's a sellout and did it 94 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 2: very quickly. The Crusaders and war retars Friday April twenty four, 95 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 2: that'll be the first actual rugby game there. But the 96 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 2: first AB's Test in July of course the Crusades Wartars. 97 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 2: That's the Super Rugby Pacific Super Round, so you have 98 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 2: lots of opportunities to see a bit of rugby that weekend. 99 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 2: One other little tidbit for you this morning is your mortgage. 100 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: So fixed mortgage rates are going up, up up. A 101 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 2: in Z has now joined B and Z which had 102 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 2: joined Westpac and putting them up there what rates are 103 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 2: going up and A and Z's have now got the 104 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 2: highest rate card in the country. Their rates are up 105 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 2: and highest for one year eighteen months, three years, four years, 106 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 2: and five years, and good news if you're a term depositor. 107 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 2: Good news they are putting those rates up as well. 108 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 2: Sounds good, but only for terms of one to five years. 109 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 2: Now the problem, as interest dot Co points out this morning, 110 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 2: longer term deposit rates are not popular with savers, so 111 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 2: it might look like they're offsetting the rises and your 112 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 2: mortgage rates. In fact, they probably won't be because of 113 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 2: what savers prefer. Eleven after five, Ryan Bridge, and you're 114 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 2: on News Talk ZB Next we will talk about the 115 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 2: government's changes to migration rules. News be back in a 116 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 2: second on. 117 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: Your radio and online on Iheard Radio Early edition with 118 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge and one Route Love where you live. 119 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 2: What news talks had been fourteen after five, So one 120 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 2: hundred and eight dollars a barrel. This is Brent crude futures. Why, well, 121 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: there have been some attacks overnight. Iranian energy sites have 122 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 2: been hit and so futures have gone up. And you 123 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 2: might say it's a South Pass gas field, which is 124 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 2: the world's largest such facility, and Iran has shared this 125 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 2: with Katar. So Katar is not happy that the US 126 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 2: and the Israelis are hitting a gas field which they 127 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 2: part run. However, why would the price of oil go 128 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 2: up when you're hitting a gas field. Well, the problem 129 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 2: is that it's highly unlikely Iran is going to just 130 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 2: stand by and let that happen. So then the feeling 131 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 2: is if you start heading their gas fields, they will 132 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 2: continue hitting the Straight of Humus and therefore it affects 133 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 2: your oil price. 134 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: Rain Bridge, the. 135 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 2: Government's cracking down on criminal migrants and refugees applying here 136 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 2: there is a catch. Miss your biometrics appointment and your 137 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 2: claim could be canceled. Simon is immigration lawyer, chairman of 138 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,239 Speaker 2: New Zealand Association of Migration and Investment joins me this morning. Simon, 139 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 2: good morning, good morning, Good to have you on the show. Overall, 140 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 2: these changes are hard to argue with them. 141 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 9: They well, if someone doesn't turn up to an appointment, 142 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 9: does that mean they get thrown out of the country. 143 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 8: It seems a little bit stark if that's what in 144 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 8: fact the paper proposes. The thing is that someone has 145 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 8: made a valid claim for asylum. Well a claim for asylum. 146 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 8: Whether it's valid or not is another matter, but that's 147 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 8: the point. It hasn't yet been decided prior to them 148 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 8: even turning up for the appointment to have that tested. 149 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 8: They're supposed to go to another appointment in order to 150 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 8: carry out the biometrics. If they don't show up for that, 151 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 8: on the face of it, it appears that means that 152 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 8: their claim is going to get thrown out. What it 153 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 8: used to be was that when biometrics are brought in 154 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 8: is that those biometrics readings were taken on the day 155 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 8: of the appointment the person was supposed to go in for, 156 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 8: so it could all be dealt with at once. For 157 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 8: administrative reasons or efficiencies, it was decided to split those 158 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 8: out so that the biometric appointment will be first. The 159 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 8: problem is it was meant to happen. It was required 160 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 8: to take place very shortly after the person had filed 161 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 8: their claim, which might be shortly after they've come into 162 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 8: the country. They're new to the system here, they may 163 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 8: not even know where the office is that they're supposed 164 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 8: to go to, and they may and probably don't speak 165 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 8: English very well. So there's a number of reasons why 166 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 8: this could be really a problem for people to actually 167 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 8: need that requirement right right at the get go. 168 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 2: Okay fair, So maybe there's a tweak that can be 169 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 2: made if that seems like it's a little unjust, but 170 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 2: the fact that there are murderers and sex offenders convicted 171 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 2: in New Zealand among current asylum claimants that's got to 172 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 2: be cleaned up, didn't it. 173 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 9: Well? 174 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 8: It actually still can be quite clear because they haven't 175 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 8: seen the paper what was really intended here at the present. 176 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 8: The exclusion clause of the Refugee Convention says that you 177 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 8: can only exclude someone from refugee recognition if they've committed 178 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 8: the crime overseas, and this is extending it to New Zealand. Yep, Okay, 179 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 8: that on a face of it sounds pretty good. But 180 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 8: the point is New Zealand is a signatory to a 181 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 8: convention that's been around for seventy five years, and essentially 182 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 8: this is a seeking to change this convention which we 183 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 8: signed up for. I'm a bit concerned that we're seeking 184 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 8: to cherry pick through. 185 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 2: Who cares what we've signed. If you've got refugee claims 186 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 2: from people who've been convicted of serious offenses in New Zealand, 187 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 2: and you can't consider those serious offenses when you're trying 188 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 2: to determine whether they should get refugee status. That's wrong, 189 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 2: isn't it? 190 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 4: Well? 191 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 8: It would be wrong if there was no other means 192 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 8: to deal with them. The factors that there is also 193 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 8: Article thirty three of the Convention, which allows a nation 194 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 8: to expel someone if they've committed a serious crime that 195 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 8: poses a risk national security or a threat to the community. 196 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 8: And the sort of offenses that the ministers referred to 197 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 8: are those. So why not use that? 198 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 2: But then you'd have to go through the process of 199 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 2: accepting them as refugees and then booting them out, would you? 200 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 2: Why not that that's useless? Why not? I mean, do 201 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 2: you see what I'm saying? But this is far more efficient. 202 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 2: We're going to get rid of them anyway. 203 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 8: What if they've got a valid claim for recognition of 204 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 8: facing serious a threat of serious harm, which could include death, 205 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 8: and they come here and committed it. If they've come 206 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 8: here to cause death, maybe there's a justification, but it 207 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 8: doesn't We're not clear how serious is serious. If they've 208 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:59,479 Speaker 8: committed a burglary, it sounds like they might actually face expulsion, 209 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 8: exclusion from refugee recognition. And the point is that recognition 210 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 8: of refugee status is I say, something we've actually signed 211 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 8: up to as an international citizen. We don't just throw 212 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 8: that away or try to get around it. 213 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 2: Simon, I appreciate your time this morning. Thanks very much 214 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 2: for being with me. Simon Lrent, immigration lawyer, would love 215 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 2: your feedback on that nine two nineteen after five. 216 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: Views and views you trust to start your day. It's 217 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: earlier this ship with Ryan Bridge and one roof love 218 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 1: where you live news talks. 219 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 2: That'd be five twenty one. While the feedback has been 220 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 2: swift and harsh about that interview. Just then on immigration, Ryan, 221 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 2: this is very concerning to say here some unjustifying a criminal, 222 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 2: says Lewis. Ryan. Let's cherry peck away. We don't want 223 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 2: murderers or serious criminals in our country. Don't accept these 224 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 2: people in here. Get rid of them. I don't care 225 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 2: if they die when they get sent back to where 226 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 2: they come from, says Kirsten. Now there are fourteen. I 227 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 2: want to make clear it's not all refugees are asylum 228 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 2: seek There are fourteen refugee claims this according to the Minister, 229 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 2: from people who have been convicted of serious offenses in 230 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 2: New Zealand, including murder, serious sexual assault and drug offenses 231 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 2: in Arson. This will mean that immigration in New Zealand 232 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 2: if the change goes ahead, can take convictions for crimes 233 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 2: committed here into account when making a decision on that claim. 234 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 2: Brian Bread, Right, let's talk aviation now, time Air twenty 235 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 2: two minutes after five. Westport's losing its only air service. 236 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 2: Originally has been running the Wellington Westport route since Soundzier 237 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,839 Speaker 2: pulled out, but now that's done too. War was the 238 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 2: last straw. They're losing five hundred k year on the route. 239 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 2: Iron King Aviation Industry commentated with us this morning. Iron 240 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 2: good morning, Good morning there surprised. 241 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 4: No, not at all. 242 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 10: Really, this route's been extremely marginal for as long as 243 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 10: I can remember. 244 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 2: So what happens now? Will anyone come in? Or that 245 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 2: was sort of the last chance saloon? 246 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 10: I'd say, you know, it might be sustainable for sort 247 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 10: of unscheduled casual operations, but for a schedule operation, you know, 248 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 10: that's sort of a fixed cost. And yeah, no, I'd 249 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 10: say it's going to be very tough to get anyone 250 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 10: in there. 251 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 2: And how you know full with the. 252 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 10: Planes, Well, from what I can work out, you know, 253 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 10: the weekends were okay, but you know it's a typical 254 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 10: problem of midweek and who wants to travel midweek and 255 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 10: so you know, obviously when you get a blow about 256 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 10: eighty percent load factor on these routes, you start losing 257 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 10: a lot of money. 258 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 2: Iron appreciate your time this morning. That's Iron King Aviation commentator. 259 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 2: It is twenty three minutes after five Brian Bridge. Rolls 260 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 2: Royce is you know how those car companies came out 261 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 2: and said we're going to go all green, We're going 262 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 2: fully in, we're going all electric. And they had a 263 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 2: target Rolls roystered of twenty thirty they would be all electric, 264 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 2: no more combustion engines, is what they said. And they 265 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 2: brought out in twenty twenty two a brand new all 266 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 2: EV Specter brand and they said, this is going to 267 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 2: be our new big sales. You know, the big push 268 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 2: for EV sales will be the Specter. They said it 269 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 2: to make up twenty percent of them sales of the 270 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 2: goal of seventy percent by twenty twenty eight, So pretty soon, 271 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 2: by the end of twenty thirty, we will no longer 272 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 2: be in the business of producing vehicles with internal combustion engines. Well, 273 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 2: scrap that. The new CEO in town says, no, we're 274 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 2: getting rid of that target. Why government regulations around the 275 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 2: world have been relaxed, including here in New Zealand, by 276 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 2: the way, and custom demand. So if people want petrol, 277 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 2: they will get petrol. If you don't have petrol cars, 278 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 2: they will buy from someone else. Next. 279 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: GDP Today The Early Edition Full show podcast on iHeartRadio 280 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: powered by Newstalk. 281 00:14:56,120 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 2: ZIB News TALKSB five twenty six. Why today's GDP number 282 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 2: is not irrelevant? Old, yes, backward looking by its nature, 283 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 2: but irrelevant. No, we're tip to grow. By the way, 284 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 2: it around zero point three zero point four percent for 285 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 2: quarter four of twenty twenty five, so this is to 286 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 2: the end of December. It would mark, barring any surprises, 287 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 2: the second straight month of per capita growth on the 288 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 2: trot and it tells you that number does if we 289 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 2: get it that the average in common standard of living 290 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 2: was ticking up on an on per person basis, albeit 291 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 2: from a low base, which has been the problem we've 292 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 2: had for the last few years. This is important because 293 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 2: it tells you we're on the move, that we've been 294 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 2: fighting back against recession. Some say the numbers is irrelevant 295 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 2: because of the war and the oil supply that's currently 296 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 2: before us, but there are reasons to be optimistic. The 297 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 2: Reserve Bank is likely to leave interest rates where they 298 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 2: are in three weeks when they next meet, and there's 299 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 2: a fork in the road. If inflation bumps, there'll be 300 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 2: temptation to hike rates later. But we can still grow 301 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 2: at a clip under three percent. Of two things happen. 302 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 2: One we don't panic and a self fulfilling fuel shortage ensues, 303 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 2: and two we learn the lessons of liberation day. Trump's 304 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 2: actions are chaotic and often quickly reversed. We're looking at 305 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 2: alternative oil supplies as we speak. Our current stocks are 306 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 2: described as stable at the moment. The tariff shock wasn't 307 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 2: so much about a direct effect. It was the knock 308 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 2: on business and consumer confidence that got us Last year. 309 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 2: People spent less, business paused hiring, investing because of the uncertainty, 310 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 2: and it blew over. Yes, this is different, it involves 311 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 2: more balls in the year, but the fundamental lesson is 312 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 2: the same. If we freak out, if we let uncertainty 313 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 2: rule our lives, we exacerbate the very problem we're trying 314 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 2: to avoid in the first place. So I'm relatively optimistic 315 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 2: for me once, shame on you, form me twice shame 316 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 2: on me. So much of economics is basically just human 317 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 2: feelings when it boils down to it. So when today's 318 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 2: GDP read comes out, let's take stock of where we've been. 319 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 2: Let's pat ourselves and our business is on the back 320 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 2: for our contributions. That number is not irrelevant. It was 321 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 2: hard fought. Confidence is key and if we think we 322 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 2: can do it, we. 323 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: Will, Ryan Bridge, I. 324 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 2: Think we can't. We won't. Five twenty nine on News 325 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 2: Talks EDB very quickly, Harry and Meghan an update from Netflix. 326 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 2: You know the ideal that was worth two hundred and 327 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 2: forty million dollars apparently is going to be ripped up. 328 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 2: Ratings aren't good and here's a quote from Variety. The 329 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 2: pattern of selling repackaged versions of the same story about 330 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 2: the exit from Royal life is exhausting. Never a truer 331 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:42,479 Speaker 2: word spoken. We're live to Washington next and we'll look 332 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 2: at that GDP number before six News Talks EDB. 333 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 1: The news you need this morning and the in depth 334 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 1: analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge and one roofe Love 335 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: where you live Talk said, be okay, say it's the 336 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: last we spoil. 337 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 2: The face twenty four away from six year on News 338 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 2: Talk said be before we get to six o'clock. We's 339 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 2: pac on today's GDP number. You'll be hearing in about 340 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 2: that a lot this morning and throughout the day. Also 341 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 2: we'll head to Washington. This is from Paul Morning, Paul, 342 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 2: he says, on the speeding fines, because the number that 343 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 2: they issued this is just not stationary cameras, but just 344 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 2: police officers zapping you as you speed pass them. Five 345 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 2: hundred and forty thousand fines over the year. It's the 346 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 2: highest in fifteen years. Paul's not happy about where they 347 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 2: are finding you. He says that he and his wife 348 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 2: were traveling on an expressway, so one hundred and ten k's, 349 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 2: you know, like the one up north, there's one near Hamilton. 350 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 2: One hundred and ten k's honky dory. Happy is Larry 351 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 2: off you go and then the speed drops to one 352 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 2: hundred But the right I mean it's no longer probably 353 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 2: as wide, but it's still a motorway that you are 354 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 2: driving on. He says that they got stung just after 355 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 2: the speed changed. I actually thought there was a was 356 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 2: sort of a grace period or a little grace distance 357 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 2: where if you're within COOWI of a speeding sign change, 358 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 2: then you would be okay. But apparently not. They got fined. 359 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 2: It was only thirty dollars because they weren't going crazy. 360 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 2: But that does seem a little bit unfair. The location 361 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 2: of them is annoying, isn't it? Like if there's an 362 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 2: area where people are crashing and dying and it's because 363 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 2: of speed, then sure, but outside of that, what are 364 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 2: you actually doing? Twenty three away from six ran Bridge 365 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 2: our reporters Jamie for Deneed and Jamie. 366 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: Good morning, Good morning Ryan. 367 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 2: What's going on with the Southland's council regig Well? 368 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 7: The Local Government Commission's undertaken a reorganization investigation after Southland 369 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 7: Mayor Rob Scott proposed turning the local governments into two 370 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 7: unitary authorities that would include one rural based and one 371 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 7: for Invercargo City. The Southern regions are currently made up 372 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 7: of four councils in the Kargo Southland District, Gore District 373 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 7: and Environments Southland Local body politicians have had their say 374 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 7: and now it's the region's residents turn to provide feedback 375 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 7: over the next fortnight, including community meetings and online surveys. 376 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 2: All right, how's the weather, Jamie? Fine? 377 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,719 Speaker 7: Apart from some morning and evening, cloud northeast lees, changing 378 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 7: southerly this afternoon and a high of eighteen. 379 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 2: Have a good day, Clears in christ this morning, Clear, 380 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 2: good morning. You've got details on how this Jetstar flight 381 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 2: lost its nosewheel back in twenty twenty four. 382 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 11: Yeah, this was a plane that landed from Auckland to 383 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 11: christ Church JQ two two five in twenty twenty four 384 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 11: and when it landed, it quickly started sliding, went through 385 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 11: a signboard and then landed and el sort of came 386 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 11: to a rest on some grass. The Transport Accident Investigation 387 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 11: Commissions looked into the crash. I should say that no 388 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 11: one was injured in it. Investigators, though, have found that 389 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 11: there had been a mid flight hydraulic failure, meaning the 390 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 11: plane lost its nosewheel steering during the trip, but the 391 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 11: captain also accidentally moved thrust levers to the wrong position 392 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 11: with landing, which caused the crash. The chief investigator of 393 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 11: Acts Accidents, Louise Cook, says the pilots could have planned 394 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 11: to stop on the runway and wait for a toe 395 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 11: that had opted to go for a rapid exit that 396 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 11: that often used before. The good news from this is 397 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 11: that within less than three months of this incident, Jetstar 398 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 11: had already made changes to procedures around the landing, which has. 399 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 12: Made it safer. 400 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 2: All right, how's your weather fine? 401 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 11: Aside from some morning and evening cloud about northeasterlies developing 402 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,719 Speaker 11: in the morning and a high today of eighteen degrees. 403 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 2: Thank you, clear and joy Max and Wellington Morning Max, 404 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 2: Good morning. So the fairy cost dispute rages on. 405 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 13: Yes, the reporter at the Post who's been in a 406 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 13: bit of a tiff with Winston Peter's office about the 407 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 13: cook Straight ferry project potentially going over budget, has a 408 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 13: new article today. So last week it was reported the 409 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 13: cost estimate had reached one point eighty six seven billion 410 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 13: dollars rather than the one point seven billion approved. Peter said, beloney, 411 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 13: you'd been reading the figures wrong. The author now focuses 412 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 13: specifically on the cost of the ferries themselves, beyond the 413 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 13: port infrastructure work, etc. Officially priced these fairies at five 414 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 13: hundred and ninety six million dollars, could apparently reach seven 415 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 13: hundred and sixteen million in cost overruns, contingency exchange rates, 416 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 13: other delivery costs. So it still all seems a bit 417 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 13: more like a possibility rather than anything definitive. Peter's not 418 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 13: quoted in the article. We're still waiting to see whether 419 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 13: there has been a budget overrun yet. 420 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 2: All right, how's your weather? Cloudy periods with southerlya's a 421 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 2: high of eighteen nice one, thank you and Neva and 422 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 2: Auckland morning. Neva. A guilty plea from a former Auckland 423 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 2: DHB senior manager. What's this about? 424 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 7: Yes? 425 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 12: Now, Gary Gorham admitted to accepting more than two hundred 426 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 12: and fifty thousand dollars in undisclosed payments from medical equipment 427 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 12: and software companies. Now Gorham pleaded guilty to all the 428 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 12: charges laid against him. This includes accepting gifts by an agent, 429 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 12: also disclosing official information on six occasions between April twenty 430 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 12: twelve and August twenty fourteen. And it's alleged that he 431 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 12: ass of the companies with business relating to the DHP 432 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 12: in exchange for the payments. So he's going to be 433 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 12: sentenced in August. 434 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 2: All right. How's our weather fine apart from. 435 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 12: Some afternoon cloud. 436 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 1: Gosh, it's hot, isn't it? 437 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 12: Twenty six is the high today? 438 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 2: Brilliant? Never thank you? Nineteen minutes and yes it is 439 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 2: hot nineteen minutes away from six. By the way, I 440 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 2: told you earlier about the attack. So the US and 441 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 2: Israel been going after this gas field, South Pa gas field. 442 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 2: This is shared between Iran and Kata, so the Qataris 443 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 2: are actually quite upset about this too, and it's the 444 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 2: largest natural gas field in the world, and the US 445 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 2: and Israel have started hitting it. Kata not happy, of course, 446 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 2: Iran not happy. And now Iran's revolutionary Gars they are 447 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 2: ensuring evacuation warnings for several oil facilities across Saudi Arabia, 448 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 2: the UAE and Katan. So basically America hits their gas fields, 449 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 2: they will hit the Gulf States oil and they will 450 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 2: continue to choke the Strait. Therefore, hitting a gas field 451 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 2: drives the price of oil up. It's now one hundred 452 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 2: and eight dollars a barrel. Overnight News Talks, HEB News 453 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 2: Talks HEB. We mentioned earlier that banks here are starting 454 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 2: to up their rates as the swap rates go up. 455 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 2: Well over in the UK, they actually have some numbers 456 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 2: on how much their mortgage costs have gone up after 457 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 2: the war in Iran began, and home owners they reckon 458 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:27,199 Speaker 2: their sixteen A typical mortgage sixteen one hundred dollars a 459 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 2: year more expensive than before the war. And the reason 460 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 2: for this is the banks have basically been pulling all 461 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 2: of the deals and all of the specials that they've 462 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 2: had that's been had the biggest impact so far. So 463 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 2: that's based on a twenty five year mortgage for a 464 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty thousand pound average two year fixed 465 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 2: rate of five point to eight percent. 466 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:51,360 Speaker 1: It's quarter to six international correspondence with ends and eye 467 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: insurance peace of mind for New Zealand business couple. 468 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 2: Of Bennet Herringchapenning in Washington at the moment. Jagru To 469 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 2: Dave is our correspondent. Jagruzi, good morning. 470 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: Good morning. 471 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 2: So what do we know? 472 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 14: Well, first of all, we've got a hearing for the 473 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 14: replacement for Homeland Security Secretary. If you remember, President Trump 474 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 14: fired Christi Nome over a series of controversies and picked 475 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 14: someone called Mark Wayne Mullin instead. And it's his confirmation hearing, 476 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 14: so he has to convince senators in Congress that he 477 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 14: is the right man for the job, and he's doing 478 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,479 Speaker 14: that by saying that his goal in six months is 479 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 14: that the DHS is not the lead story every single day. 480 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 14: These he's referring to controversies under Christie No, most notably 481 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 14: the actions of federal agents implementing the Trump administration's aggressive 482 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 14: immigration crackdown, which resulted in the killing of two US 483 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 14: citizens in Minnesota by federal agents. So, you know, I 484 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 14: guess some of the standout moments really so far have 485 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 14: been Mullin saying that it was a mistake to call 486 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 14: Alex Pretty, a man who was shot in Minnesota, a 487 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 14: deranged person, but he refused to retract his comment about 488 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 14: the earlier shooting of Rene Good. He said it was justified, 489 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 14: and he is saying that there's an investigation ongoing. It 490 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 14: was a split second decision. So that's one of the 491 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 14: things that's been happening. And the other thing is this 492 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 14: clash that he's had with a fellow Republican, Rand Paul. 493 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 14: He's the chair of the committee who's holding the hearing, 494 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 14: and you know, they've got sort of this historic beef. 495 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 14: Mollin had made some comments about Rand Paul in twenty 496 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 14: seventeen following an assault that Ran Paul had experienced, and 497 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 14: Paul took this opportunity to air those historic grievances, and 498 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 14: you know, questioned his temperament really being able to run 499 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 14: an agent, suggesting that he alleging that he's got anger 500 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 14: issues and is he the right person to lead an 501 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 14: agency that's got issues with the use of force. So 502 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 14: these are just some of the sort the fiery exchanges 503 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 14: that have been happening at this hearing. 504 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 2: Right, they've also hit a hearing on Worldwide three. It's 505 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 2: anything interesting come out of it. 506 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. 507 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 14: Tulsa Gabbard, the Director of National Intelligence, has been speaking 508 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 14: alongside Cash Patel, the FBI director, and the CIA directors. 509 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 14: Gabbard's statements would have been interesting because she's been running 510 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 14: a bit of a tight rope with regards to Iran. Historically, 511 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 14: she's been very against US intervention abroad, particularly in places 512 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,959 Speaker 14: like Iran, and here we have you know, the president 513 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 14: of her boss effectively haven't gone into Iran, and so 514 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 14: she has been speaking about this. Now. What's interesting is 515 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 14: that according to her written statement, she was to have 516 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 14: said that as a result of Operation Midnight Hammer, Iran's 517 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,679 Speaker 14: nuclear enrichment program was obliterated. There have been no efforts 518 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 14: since then to try and rebuild their enrichment capability. But 519 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 14: she's kind of deviated from these written remarks which are 520 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 14: one Center questioned her on and she said that she'd 521 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 14: skipped some of these portions that he referred to because 522 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 14: time was running long. But Senator Warner accused her of 523 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 14: having chosen to essentially skip over the parts that contradict 524 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 14: the President, who is arguing that there's an imminent threat 525 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 14: posed by Iran. So this is just some of the 526 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 14: testimony that we've been hearing from that. But you know, 527 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,719 Speaker 14: the Middle East is clearly the front and center of 528 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 14: this hearing, which is, even though it's on worldwide throughout 529 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 14: the Middle East, obviously the key at the moment. 530 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 2: Jagrudy Dave are US correspondent. Thanks so much for your time. 531 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 2: Eleven to six Brian Bridge, Hittypter today. In quarter four, 532 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 2: that's the three months to December, obviously, most economists expected 533 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 2: to land around point three point four percent. The Reserve 534 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 2: Bank was expecting point five percent. Kelly ych Old, WISPAC 535 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 2: chief economist, Kelly, good morning. 536 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 4: Good morning. 537 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 2: If it lands where you think it will, which is 538 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 2: point four, how significant is that? What does it mean 539 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 2: for us? 540 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 4: Well, it's actually a bit dated now, isn't it. I 541 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 4: mean we're talking about what happened in the fourth quarter 542 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 4: of last year. It will be encouraging that we will 543 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 4: have recorded a second consecutive decent quarter of growth. But 544 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 4: we're all looking forward to see how this Arab war 545 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 4: is going to influence growth sort of through the middle 546 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 4: of this year now, and obviously that's where the flock 547 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 4: of war is such that it's hard to known. 548 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously that's backwards looking, and you've revised down your 549 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 2: forecasts I think two point eight percent, down from three 550 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 2: point three percent for the year, which still doesn't sound 551 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 2: like defeat to me. Kelly, how much of this comes 552 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 2: down to sentiment and confidence? You know, when we had 553 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 2: the Liberation Day last year and business is tightened, consumers tightened. 554 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 2: How much of this comes down to how confident we 555 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 2: feel going into it. 556 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 4: Well, I think it does matter in terms of the 557 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 4: size of the impacts. But there are some actual, real 558 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 4: economic dislocations occurrying out there at the global economy now 559 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 4: because the oil isn't flowing, the fuels flowing, and economies 560 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 4: depend on that. I think it's certainly true that if 561 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 4: the confidence and the consumers in the business sector plunges 562 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 4: relatively hard, then we'll get an earlier and larger impact 563 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 4: on the economy. I have optimism that, given we've still 564 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,239 Speaker 4: got very strong commodity prices, the exchange rates helping us 565 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 4: out here, and also we've got quite low interest rates, 566 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 4: that we're very well placed, I think to whether it 567 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 4: compared to what we could have been. 568 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 2: Hard to disagree with that. So what about overnight? I 569 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 2: see the oil has gone up again one hundred and 570 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 2: eight dollars a barrel. There's gas field has been hidden. 571 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 2: Then there's the fair that more oil fields will be 572 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,719 Speaker 2: hit as a result. Does that worry you or is 573 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 2: this just it's up and down at the moment. 574 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 6: No. 575 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 4: I mean this continues to worry me because I think 576 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 4: what the markets are gradually working out here is that 577 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 4: it's a long road back to resolution of this issue. 578 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 4: Iran can probably expend relatively little effort to cause quite 579 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 4: a lot of damage, and you know, until that straight 580 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 4: or moves opens up, then nobody's going to be eating 581 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 4: their taco. 582 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 2: Kelly ech Old, westpat Chief Economists eight minutes away from 583 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 2: six News Talks AB. 584 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: The First Word on the News of the Day early 585 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: edition with Ryan Bridge and One Route Love Where You 586 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: Live News Talks. 587 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 2: B six to six lots of texts this morning. I 588 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 2: have to say on immigration after we spoke to our 589 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 2: lawyer just after five o'clock. Brian, if you commit a 590 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 2: serious crime, you've now lost the privilege of living here. 591 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Don't bite the hand that feeds you. A 592 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 2: country should do what's best for its people and its 593 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 2: country ahead of any other. Ran bread Bridge, Good morning, Mike. 594 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 15: Well, I can tell you what was a fascinating case 595 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 15: in Australia that's been going for years and was came 596 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 15: to a sort of a conclusion yesterday and these it's 597 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 15: the same story as we're having here with immigration. So 598 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 15: these guys come to the country, they get stay, then 599 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 15: they commit crime. Yes, or there are people who have 600 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 15: been criminals but arrive in the country and then so 601 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 15: they did lock them up. The court said you can't 602 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 15: lock them up, that's illegal. You've got to let them out. 603 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 15: They then did that thing with NARU, remember that where 604 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 15: they pay NARU billions of dollars and you go park 605 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 15: them and NARU. The people haven't stuck to NARU. They 606 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 15: put on ankle bracelets. So this was yesterday's case. They 607 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 15: stick on an ankle bracelet and they say you can't 608 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 15: do that either. So you as a government, you seemingly can't, 609 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 15: whereas I would have thought your case, there is a 610 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 15: simple case. You can make up any rule you want. 611 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 2: But well maybe you can't. We sign well we can, 612 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 2: but we signed some documents seventy years ago that protects 613 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 2: and so they will go to court and then if 614 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 2: they win. But this is ridiculous because you can't, like 615 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 2: if you come here and you and you murder somebody, 616 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 2: nobody will disagree with the apart from our lawyer this 617 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 2: more year. 618 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 15: But they're lawyers and there's a case to be arguing. 619 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 15: That's how lawyers work. Unfortunately, the Brits are doing something 620 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 15: with this too. 621 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 2: They're trying to make it harder for refugees and asylum seekers. 622 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 15: We're just lucky we don't have those problems. I mean, 623 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 15: they don't arrive on boats. 624 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 2: No. And also the drones. I was thinking yesterday about 625 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 2: the drones. You know, you think about the ones flying 626 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 2: over those airports in Europe from the Russians, and you 627 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 2: think about the ones having the Gulf States. We're too 628 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 2: far for a drone, aren't we. 629 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 15: Well it depends where youve seen it from. But yes, 630 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 15: We're very lucky to be at the bottom of the world. 631 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 15: Some days, you know, some days when you worry about 632 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 15: being at the end of the chain on the oil. 633 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 15: There are other days where you think, well, being at 634 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 15: bottom of the world's no bad thing. Miles Hurrell, who 635 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 15: quit on Monday, I wasn't going to speak until next week, 636 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 15: but he is now. So he's very much the man 637 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 15: of the moment for a couple of reasons. One because 638 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 15: of his role at Fonterra, and he's moved on at 639 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 15: a time of extraordinary success. 640 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 2: Unless you asked Winston. The results the results next week. 641 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 2: But the hot word. 642 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 15: Is increasing as it seems to me to be slightly 643 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 15: more than the rumor he's the new CEO of New 644 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 15: Zealand Rugby. 645 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 2: Oh, come on, that was a rumor. I agree one 646 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 2: of those. 647 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 15: I agree, I agree, But Gregor Paul, who I am 648 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 15: told is of some standing within the sports department, is 649 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 15: increasingly convinced it's true. 650 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 2: I think it's art call byes. Okay, we look forward 651 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 2: to this Whe's with Us MICUs with your ex News 652 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 2: Talk st B. 653 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 1: For more from early edition with Ryan Bridge, listen live 654 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: to News Talk set B from five am weekdays, or 655 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio