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Speaker 2: It's Ryan Bridge on hither duplicy, Ellen Drey with one

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Speaker 3: Be good afternoon. At seven after four break to have

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Speaker 3: AMZ on the CPI result. War worse is coming on

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Speaker 3: This has happened in Thames this morning as the Prime

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Speaker 4: You're doing with your kind of posty crime, absolute disgrace

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Speaker 3: You're listening to a bunch of protesters heckling the Prime Minister.

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Speaker 3: Now everybody in this country knows how political climate change

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Speaker 3: News talks it is ten after four. Would love your feedback.

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Speaker 3: Nine to nine two is in number to text right

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Speaker 3: Manage my Health, you know the big data breach that

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Speaker 3: Online Safety Officer Sean Good afternoon, Good afternoon, So what's

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Speaker 5: Well, this would be typical of many sort of data

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Speaker 3: News Talks B. It is seventeen minutes after four. Ryan's

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Speaker 3: mister will very well, thank you. Netball they're getting a

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Speaker 3: Hey, AB's are playing the spring Box in Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: It's the world wires on news dogs. They'd be drive time.

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Speaker 2: Now we can get on with the job of rolling

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Speaker 3: Now we still don't know exactly what's in that Greenland

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Speaker 7: Sovereignty is a red lane. The rhetoric we have heard

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Speaker 3: Now let's go across the Tasman for an update on

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Speaker 3: Lazy Susan. Susan Lee confidence she's going to hold onto

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Speaker 3: that's about it. Lazy with their words too. Of course,

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Speaker 8: If Susan Lee has been elected a leader and she

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Speaker 3: Finally, this afternoon, a mysterious humming noise is tormenting a

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Speaker 9: The next step is to hire an experience certified acoustic

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Speaker 9: going to ask the Council to transfer the funds. It's

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Speaker 3: Council has a great piney out picash.

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Speaker 2: Apparently international correspondence with ends and eye Insurance, Peace of

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Speaker 3: Dan Mitterontennan thakuis correspondent, joins us Live Day and good afternoon.

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Speaker 4: Hey, good afternoon, Ryan.

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Speaker 3: So we got Oscar nom's a vampire movie, Sinners receiving sixteen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is uh, this is a record right now.

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Speaker 3: Now the US, you guys pulling out of the World

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Speaker 3: And finally, California's Democratic Governor Gavin Newsom, this is the

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Speaker 4: Like you said, ahead of his expected run for president,

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Speaker 4: Expected politicians to kind of lower the bar as low

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Speaker 4: as it seems to have gotten. But you know, again,

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Speaker 4: this is something that we've I guess come to expect.

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Speaker 4: It's the new norm with our current government.

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Speaker 3: Very old, very weird. Dan mintersin how US correspond and

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Speaker 3: appreciate your time, thank you, eighteen minutes away from five.

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Speaker 3: Who do you think would need the biggest knee pairs?

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Speaker 3: Probably Starma? I mean, if you're talking European letters, Starma

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Speaker 3: would be the one down I don't want to say

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Speaker 3: down on his knees, but that's essentially what Gavin Newsim

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Speaker 3: is implying, isn't it eighteen to five.

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Speaker 1: In bridge Mare in Pugh?

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Speaker 3: Now you know more in Pugh because of what Simon

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Speaker 3: Bridges said about her, Well she's gone. She is gone,

448
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Speaker 3: Burger so National West Coast Tasman MP, stepping away from politics.

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Speaker 3: She's made the announcement this afternoon at the general election

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Speaker 3: this year. She says, it has been such a privilege

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Speaker 3: to be an advocate for the people of the West

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Speaker 3: Coast and Tasman. First is a List MP, and then

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Speaker 3: winning West Coast Tasman in twenty twenty three. This decade

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Speaker 3: of my life, she says, as an MP has been

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Speaker 3: an honor, as was my nine years services Mayor of Westland,

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Speaker 3: the coast first woman mayor. There you go, So more

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Speaker 3: in Pew is out and they will announce further things

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Speaker 3: shortly more in Pew. Interesting. More interesting than actually what

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Speaker 3: Simon Bridges said about her was the fact that she

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Speaker 3: was struck by lightning three times. I'm just looking at

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Speaker 3: the producers. Yeah, it wasn't once, it wasn't twic So

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Speaker 3: you know, maybe that's why she was so useless.

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Speaker 2: Politics was centrics, credit, check your customers and get payments certainty.

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Speaker 3: Foorting to five news talks, there be if you haven't

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Speaker 3: caught up with the political news today, it's all happening

466
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Speaker 3: at Artana and dibbying. Nadi Wapacker came out and said

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Speaker 3: she was willing to work and happy to work with

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Speaker 3: Winston Peters and New Zealand. First, I know what planet

469
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Speaker 3: are we living on? What parallel universe has we entered?

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Speaker 3: In twenty twenty six? Ethan Griffiths is news talks, there'd

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Speaker 3: be political report with us this afternoon. Ethan gid a

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Speaker 3: kid it Ryan, So yeah, bit bizarre. What what did

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Speaker 3: Peters make of it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: It was quite a shock, actually, we asked Peters.

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Speaker 10: We found him outside an ice cream truck actually here

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Speaker 10: at Artina today. I don't know whether it's whether he

478
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Speaker 10: was ordering an ice cream or just chatting to the owner,

479
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Speaker 10: but we managed to bail him up about it and

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Speaker 10: he said this.

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Speaker 6: We don't work with racist parties full stop. You know that.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I did it from day one.

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Speaker 6: We're never going to work with a party based on.

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Speaker 10: Race, so seems unlikely. But it was quite a shock

485
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Speaker 10: for Debbie to make that comment in the first place.

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Speaker 10: I had a chat with her today seems like she's

487
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Speaker 10: had a bit of a refresh on the break. It

488
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Speaker 10: seems that she wants the party just to grow up

489
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Speaker 10: a little bit, to look like that prepared for government.

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Speaker 10: First of all, she never speaks to zb and she

491
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Speaker 10: had a one on one with me, so that was

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Speaker 10: quite good. She was quite frank and up front. She

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Speaker 10: said that that last year was a shocking year for

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Speaker 10: the party. She's even softened a little bit on the

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Speaker 10: outcasts Muddy Meno Cupankinki and tape To Ferris, who were

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Speaker 10: both expelled from the party last year. Obviously, obviously Muddy

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Speaker 10: cupa KINGI has been reinstated on an interim basis. That's

498
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Speaker 10: back in court next month. But Nada Wapaker said never

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Speaker 10: say never when asked if there could be a potential

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Speaker 10: rekindling there.

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Speaker 3: Interesting. I'm glad she spoke to you, Ethan, because we have,

502
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Speaker 3: as you say, been trying to get her on this show,

503
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Speaker 3: various shows station for a very long time. So do

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Speaker 3: you think the public, what do you think the public

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Speaker 3: will make of this, given how strident they were last year,

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Speaker 3: suddenly around and saying, actually, you know what, forget all

507
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Speaker 3: of that. I'm a completely different person.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean clearly she and the party generally has

509
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Speaker 10: had a pretty long think about their behavior last year

510
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Speaker 10: over the break. I mean, the reality is is that

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Speaker 10: that the Marti Party as an entity historically, of course,

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Speaker 10: has been a perfectly fine member of a government. Of course,

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Speaker 10: they were in coalition with John Key for a number

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Speaker 10: of years and did some great work. Maybe she's been

515
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Speaker 10: talking to some old people and the party who have said,

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Speaker 10: actually it's time to pull up your socks and maybe

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Speaker 10: think about playing a constructive role again. In terms of

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Speaker 10: how the public thinks about it, I mean, it's hard

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Speaker 10: to say. There's been so much drama with that party,

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Speaker 10: particularly over the last six months. But again, of course

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Speaker 10: it comes down to whether the New Zealand First would

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Speaker 10: actually work with Labor, and at the moment that seems

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Speaker 10: quite unlikely.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the fact that they would need this is

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Speaker 3: the crucial part Ethan eight. That they would need to

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Speaker 3: work on current polling with either the Greens or to

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Speaker 3: Party Marty or potentially all four of them together. It's

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Speaker 3: just not going to happen.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's a beast.

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Speaker 3: Speech that Larsona. They can be pretty combative. It's been

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Speaker 3: a few years since i've been there. What were they

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Speaker 3: like this year?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's interesting. It's an interesting mood here at Dartsma's

534
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Speaker 10: to day. Obviously that we've had the weather tragedies up north.

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Speaker 10: We would have expected the Prime Minister to speak here today,

536
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Speaker 10: but of course he's not here as well as that

537
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Speaker 10: Adrian Hudafir, who is Parliament's former speaker, longtime member of

538
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Speaker 10: Dartsima Church, very very big name here and he's retiring

539
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Speaker 10: from politics altogether in a few weeks, so that's been

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Speaker 10: the focus here as well. We did hear from Chris

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Speaker 10: Hipkins now he's marking ninety years since Michael Joseph Savage

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Speaker 10: first formed a relationship with the Church, and he made

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Speaker 10: an interesting speech where he drew parallels between the National

544
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Speaker 10: Party of the past and the National Party of today,

545
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Speaker 10: saying that they never used to be afraid of words

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Speaker 10: like co governance, that people like John Key and Christin

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Speaker 10: Listen did great things for Marty and attempting to, I

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Speaker 10: guess paint a picture of the state of play.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 10: We've also heard from Green's and to Party Marty as well.

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Speaker 10: I believed to Party Martia speaking as we speak on

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Speaker 10: the phone now, so I'm sure there'll be more to

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Speaker 10: come from that. We're also expecting time of Potaker to

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Speaker 10: say a few words on palf of the government as well.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate the update Ethan Ethan Griffith Griffith's news talks of

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Speaker 3: b political reporter at Artna for.

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Speaker 1: US Ryan Breck.

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Speaker 3: Interesting this is from Glenn McConnell at stuff from a

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Speaker 3: few years ago, now after the twenty twenty three election.

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Speaker 3: But he looked at actually because you know last year,

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Speaker 3: if you turned a shin on the TV, listened to

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Speaker 3: the radio To Party Marory, you almost got the impression

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Speaker 3: that they were the only party for Maory. Well, this

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Speaker 3: analysis after the twenty three election said that actually, if

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Speaker 3: you'd break it down and look at where Mary voted,

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Speaker 3: you had more Maori voting for the National Party than

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Speaker 3: you did for To Party Malory. About twenty two percent

568
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Speaker 3: of Marory voted for the NATS at the last election.

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Speaker 3: According to this, just sixteen percent voted for To Party Maori.

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Speaker 3: And actually, if you count up how much New Zealand

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Speaker 3: First An Act got, it was ten percent, so not

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Speaker 3: too far off what Party Mardi got. In total news

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Speaker 3: talk zb.

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Speaker 1: The headlines and the hard questions, it's the mic Hosking Breakfast.

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Speaker 11: I'm planned by ACC to dig themselves out of their

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Speaker 11: fiscal hole without change. They're going to be twenty six

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Speaker 11: billion in debt by twenty thirtys Megan main is the

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Speaker 11: a SEC's chief executive. As a task, could I use

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Speaker 11: the word gargantuan?

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Speaker 3: Would that be fair?

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Speaker 10: Mike?

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Speaker 12: It's ambitious. The turnaround plan would say us getting back

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Speaker 12: to a balance by twenty thirty, but I think it's achievable.

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Speaker 11: How much of the equation here of what you're trying

585
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Speaker 11: to do is the recipient milking the system versus you

586
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Speaker 11: guys not providing what you should.

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Speaker 12: The thing in our control is our focus on doing

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Speaker 12: our part of that. But as I say, we need

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Speaker 12: to make sure that we're still able to give the

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Speaker 12: support to people who genuinely neede it.

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Speaker 11: Mag Monday from six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with

592
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Speaker 11: a Vida News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 3: Time is six minutes away from five. Trump is causing

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Speaker 3: outrage in Europe again, and this is not about Greenland's

595
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Speaker 3: talking about Afghanistan. In saying that NATO countries because you know,

596
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Speaker 3: there's this big split now in NATO, even though the

597
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Speaker 3: Europeans need America for security. There's questions about what's going

598
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Speaker 3: to happen to NATO and the future, et cetera, et cetera.

599
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Speaker 3: So Trump has gone on Fox and basically said that

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Speaker 3: the NATO countries never backed them up, have never backed

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Speaker 3: them up, even when it comes to Afghanistan.

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Speaker 1: We have never really asked anything of them.

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Speaker 7: You know, they'll say they sent some troops to Afghanistan

604
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Speaker 7: or the Sadana, and they did.

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Speaker 6: They stayed a little back, a little off the front lines.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, because four hundred and fifty British troops

607
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Speaker 3: lost their lives and the politicians in the UK not happen.

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Speaker 13: It's an absolute insult. It's an insult to four hundred

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Speaker 13: and fifty seven families who lost someone in Afghanistan. How

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Speaker 13: dare he say we weren't on a France Definitely.

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Speaker 14: We have always been.

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Speaker 13: There whenever the Americans have wanted us.

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Speaker 3: We have always been that pretty disgusting thing to say.

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Speaker 3: I think you would have to agree. Now, now it

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Speaker 3: is four minutes away from top of the hour. Very quickly,

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Speaker 3: this is wool Worse. After five, we're actually going to

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Speaker 3: speak to wool Worst. They're coming on the show to

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Speaker 3: defend themselves. Why because they are increasing some fees for us.

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Speaker 3: If you shop online, which I've never done before, but

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Speaker 3: I've seen people go and pick up their groceries so

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Speaker 3: the supermarket, the workers on the supermarket will actually pack

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Speaker 3: the bags for you and you go and pick it up.

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Speaker 3: I can normally go and do it myself. So click

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Speaker 3: and Collect is free at the moment, at will worse

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Speaker 3: so long as you're buying I think it's fifty dollars

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Speaker 3: worth of groceries. If it's less than fifty bucks, you

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Speaker 3: pay five dollars. But they are going to change the

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Speaker 3: rules so that all Click and collect collectors pay a

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Speaker 3: three dollars fifty feet so even if you're not ordering much,

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Speaker 3: you will still have to pay. Now, this is from

631
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Speaker 3: I mean normally I would say, well that's fair enough.

632
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Speaker 3: They say they're not making any money off it. In fact,

633
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Speaker 3: they're making a loss out of providing the service. So

634
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Speaker 3: fair enough. You're doing you know, you're running a business.

635
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Speaker 3: You've got to cover your cost whatever, except that the duopoly,

636
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Speaker 3: the profit situation, adding a fee, adding a charge just

637
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Speaker 3: rubs people the wrong way, doesn't it. So to their credit,

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Speaker 3: they are coming on the show. We'll talk to them

639
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Speaker 3: a little later on also Japan. You know I told

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Speaker 3: you the other day they were going to restart for Kashima.

641
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Speaker 3: Can you believe it's been fifteen years since they turned

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Speaker 3: it off. That was twenty eleven when the earthquake, tsunami, etc.

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Speaker 3: The reactors melting down. Fifteen years. So they turn it

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Speaker 3: back on and then within a few hours they switch

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Speaker 3: it off technical problems, some alarm went off. Anyway, they

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Speaker 3: say it'll be commercially up and running. Fingers crossed alarms

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Speaker 3: obviously dependent. Next month you're on news Talk, said b

648
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Speaker 3: We'll head to the mounts after news at five for

649
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Speaker 3: you person over again.

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Speaker 2: The only drive show you can tramped to ask the questions,

651
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Speaker 2: We get the answers, find the facts and give the analysis.

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Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge on Hither duplicy Ellen Drive with.

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Speaker 2: One New Zealand and the power of satellite mobile news talks.

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Speaker 3: Be good evening and seven after five we've got six

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Speaker 3: people unaccounted for, including two teenagers in the mountain Longanery landslide.

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Speaker 3: The PM is there, He's spoken to the families this afternoon.

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Speaker 15: They are grieving incredibly hard, and I know that New

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Speaker 15: Zealand's grieves with them, and I passed that sentiment to

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Speaker 15: each and every one of the family members and friends

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Speaker 15: that are here waiting.

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Speaker 3: Herald Senior journalist Michael Morris there, Michael, what do we

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Speaker 3: know about those who are trapped?

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Speaker 16: Well, at this stage, as you've said, you've got the

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Speaker 16: six who are confirmed as being buried beneath this huge landslide.

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Speaker 16: There are another three people who police are still trying

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Speaker 16: to reach. They say it's unlikely that they are buried

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Speaker 16: beneath the landslide, but they are still trying to contact

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Speaker 16: them to rule it out. What they're trying to do

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Speaker 16: is go through a list of all the people who

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Speaker 16: may have checked into this camping ground and ensure that

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Speaker 16: they did indeed leave and are not buried beneath the rubble.

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Speaker 16: But look, this is a constant, an ongoing and fluid

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Speaker 16: rescue operation. According to emergency staff. There are diggers and

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Speaker 16: trucks going in and out. It is a huge and

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Speaker 16: complex operation just because of the many tons of dirt

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Speaker 16: that need to be picked up and taken away from

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Speaker 16: that ablution and kitchen area where we know people have

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Speaker 16: been trapped and taken to another sort of staging area

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Speaker 16: by these dump trucks away from that site. So it

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Speaker 16: is an incredibly tragic scene. And you know, of course,

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Speaker 16: we now know that there were early warning signs about

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Speaker 16: this disaster. We know from about early in the morning.

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Speaker 16: I've just interviewed a local here in Todonga who he

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Speaker 16: went up the hill about quarter to eight in the

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Speaker 16: morning before this landslide happened, and he started taking photos

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Speaker 16: because he said he saw what he described as a

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Speaker 16: mini waterfall coming down the bank. There were trees down,

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Speaker 16: there were mini slips happening all over the place, and

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Speaker 16: yet there was no official order to evacuate. He actually

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Speaker 16: was speaking to a man in his forties and his

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Speaker 16: daughter who he thought was about fourteen years old, and

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Speaker 16: their tent was pitched directly beneath the base of the mountain,

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Speaker 16: and he was having a chat to them and making

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Speaker 16: sure they were okay, and then of course he went

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Speaker 16: home heard the sirens and he has not seen those

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Speaker 16: people again. He has not seen the man and his

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Speaker 16: water again, and he's desperately trying to get answer as

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Speaker 16: to whether they're okay, but he fears for the worst

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Speaker 16: because their tent is absolutely covered by this landslide.

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Speaker 3: Very tragic, as you say, Michael, but did anyone know

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Speaker 3: official actually know about how bad that situation was in

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Speaker 3: order to be able to warn people.

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Speaker 16: Well, we absolutely know that officials started cottoning on to

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Speaker 16: the problem because the mount was closed, barriers were put up,

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Speaker 16: and people who want to go up and walk around

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Speaker 16: it was closed around the sort of eight point fifteen

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Speaker 16: am mark. So there was obvious signs that there was problems,

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Speaker 16: and officials started to act in terms of blocking people

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Speaker 16: from going up and doing their morning runs around the

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Speaker 16: popular Mount Monganui. But what didn't happen, it appears, is

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Speaker 16: the campground. Despite there being large amounts of water beneath

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Speaker 16: the base of the mountain, and despite being evidence of

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Speaker 16: slips and trees coming down around tents, the people were

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Speaker 16: not moved out. We do know that there were locals

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Speaker 16: who were trying to urge people from early in the

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Speaker 16: morning to get out. I spoke to a woman yesterday

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Speaker 16: and publish that story about that that there were people

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Speaker 16: who were saying, you know, you need to get out,

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Speaker 16: it's not safe. But obviously without that official advice, a

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Speaker 16: lot of people did not heed those warnings, and tragically

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Speaker 16: now we have at least six people unaccounted for it

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Speaker 16: still beneath at Rton.

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Speaker 3: All right, Michael, thank you for that update. Appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Michael Morra, the Herald's senior journalist, on the scene for

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Speaker 3: US eleven after five Ryan Bridge December quarter inflation. We

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Speaker 3: got that number today, popped outside the band at three

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Speaker 3: point one percent usual suspects rates, insurance, rent driving it.

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Speaker 3: We were three percent September, remember two point seven percent

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Speaker 3: for June. So wrong direction for now. Sharon zolma Ain's

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Speaker 3: in chief of US with me tonight's sharing. Good evening, Hello,

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Speaker 3: thanks me on, good to have you on. So this

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Speaker 3: means that, well, it's more than what the Reserve Bank

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Speaker 3: thought it was going to be. Does this mean we're

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Speaker 3: not going to get a cut, We'll get a hold

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Speaker 3: next month?

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 17: To be fair, I don't think anyone was expecting as

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Speaker 17: the Reserve Bank to do anything but hold. Since there

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Speaker 17: November montre policy statement, the activity data generally has been

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Speaker 17: coming out stronger than expected, and now we've got an

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Speaker 17: inflation starting points higher than they had expected as well.

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Speaker 17: But nonetheless they've only just finished cutting. So doing anything

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Speaker 17: other than nothing it would certainly be a huge spars

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Speaker 17: to everyone.

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Speaker 3: And then you're now bringing forward an increase to September.

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Speaker 17: Yes, so typically the OCR spends about a year at

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Speaker 17: the bottom or the top before it starts moving. Well,

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Speaker 17: obviously every cycle is different, but essentially with that stronger

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Speaker 17: activity data and now the stronger inflation starting point as well,

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Speaker 17: you know, that's quite the combination. And so we now

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Speaker 17: think that rate hikes are likelier than not this year,

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Speaker 17: with obviously question marks around the timing. There are some

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Speaker 17: indicators suggesting that inflation is going to keep rising, in

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Speaker 17: which case rate hikes could come sooner. On the other hand,

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Speaker 17: death or headwinds for the economy, rates and the exchange

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Speaker 17: rate off their lows. Dairy prices have fallen quite a bit.

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Speaker 17: You know, the economy could lose them into the again,

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Speaker 17: in which case hikes could come later. But we're sort

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Speaker 17: of thinking sometime around the end of the year.

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Speaker 3: The problem here is, well, it's more rates and insurance.

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Speaker 3: They just keep going up and they don't stop, do they.

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Speaker 17: No, that is certainly true. Administered prices and those sort

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Speaker 17: of prices of Reserve Bank can't do anything about. We're

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Speaker 17: certainly a part of the story. But was notable about

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Speaker 17: this release was actually that the surprises were pretty broad

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Speaker 17: based no matter how you cut it. Generally speaking, the

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Speaker 17: ED was stronger than the Reserve Bank or was expecting.

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Speaker 17: The core inflation measures sort stripping out the noise, they're

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Speaker 17: still in the target band. The Reserve Bank doesn't forecast though,

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Speaker 17: so we can't sure what they were expecting, but they

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Speaker 17: were they were pretty next. And the non tradeable inflation,

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Speaker 17: which is the domestic part of inflation, heavily influenced by

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Speaker 17: things like wages that didn't fall. It was steady at

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Speaker 17: three and a half, which is a bit too high,

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Speaker 17: and whereas the Reserve Bank had been thinking it would

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Speaker 17: fall to three point two. So you can't just point

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Speaker 17: to a couple of technical things and say it's just.

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Speaker 3: Noise stubborn, isn't it. When does it start to come down?

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Speaker 3: Like you know, because when the rates were dropped at

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Speaker 3: the end of last year, we were told they could

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Speaker 3: look through some short term, medium term increases in inflation.

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Speaker 3: Does this mean that we will come down again?

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Speaker 17: Well, what is true is that the inflation data tells

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Speaker 17: you more about the past than about the future. It

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Speaker 17: tells you where you've been. On the other hand, three

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Speaker 17: point one does have a different ring to it than

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Speaker 17: three because the Reserve Bank target is one to three percent,

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Speaker 17: So that's awkward, I would say. But the outlook for

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Speaker 17: inflation really depends on how much spare capacity there is

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Speaker 17: in the economy, So the unemployment rate is a key

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Speaker 17: part of that, but machines sitting idle essentially, and how

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Speaker 17: much lung capacity have we've got for a burst of speed,

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Speaker 17: And there's a huge amounted uncertainty around that, and some

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Speaker 17: indicators like our Business Outlooks survey, are suggesting that the

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Speaker 17: Reserve Bank that's so that the economy might be getting

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Speaker 17: a bit puffed already, which isn't isn't a happy thought,

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Speaker 17: But essentially the Reserve Bank can't do anything about the

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Speaker 17: long term growth rate of the New Zealand economy. They

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Speaker 17: can just try and smooth it out essentially. So yeah,

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Speaker 17: there's a lot of uncertainty out there about how much

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Speaker 17: spare capacity is left in the economy. We've got labor

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Speaker 17: market data coming up pretty soon on the fourth of ABE.

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Speaker 17: I think it is that'll be probably more important for

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Speaker 17: the future track of interest rates than today's data.

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Speaker 3: Is Sharon appreciate that updates. Sharon Zolmer, who is chief

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Speaker 3: economist at A and Z times quarter past five average

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Speaker 3: rand Walworst will be making a killer profit off the

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Speaker 3: clicking collect because they won't have to pay as many

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Speaker 3: staff members won't have The wage bill will be less

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Speaker 3: than it would have been after they introduce click and collect.

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Speaker 3: Bas reckons they have fewer staff working in supermarkets. Is

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Speaker 3: that true? Today Wilworst has announced they are putting up

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Speaker 3: the fee three dollars fifty. Well, changing the fee structure.

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Speaker 3: I suppose, so everyone, all you click and collectors out

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Speaker 3: there will pay three dollars fifty for the privilege. Wilworst

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Speaker 3: is coming on the show to defend it. Their next

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Speaker 3: news talk said b it's five nineteen. If you like

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Speaker 3: to use click and collect when you do your supermarket shopping,

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Speaker 3: well look out you might be about to get slapped

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Speaker 3: with a fee. Currently, click and collect is free at

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Speaker 3: Woolworst as long as you're buying at least fifty bucks

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Speaker 3: worth of groceries. If you're spending less than that, you

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Speaker 3: pay five bucks. But the chain is going to change

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Speaker 3: the rules so that all clicking collectors pay three dollars fifty.

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Speaker 3: Mark Wolfendon is the Wilworst New Zealand director of e

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Speaker 3: Commerce and he's with us. Now are make good evening?

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Speaker 18: Good evening?

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Speaker 3: Ryan? So why are you doing this for those people

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Speaker 3: who are spending more than fifty bucks, why do they

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Speaker 3: have to pay a fee?

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Speaker 18: So this is about simplifying our fees for all pickup orders.

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Speaker 18: But importantly it's about making it more sustainable and making

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Speaker 18: sure that we can keep investing in amazing technology and

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Speaker 18: services which honestly Kiwis are demanding it ever more have

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Speaker 18: at grader levels. I mean, we're now seeing more than

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Speaker 18: one in four of our online orders are actually picked

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Speaker 18: up or delivered within just two hours. So for us,

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Speaker 18: it's really important we can keep offering these amazing services

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Speaker 18: right across New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: Are you making a loss on them at the moment?

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Speaker 18: So the fees are only going to cover a tiny

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Speaker 18: part of the cost of the service. I mean, if

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Speaker 18: you imagine one of our expert personal shoppers walking around

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Speaker 18: our stores doing all of your groceries for you, which

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Speaker 18: our customers just love, but that it is relatively expensive.

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Speaker 18: But we think that for the less than a cost

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Speaker 18: of a flat white, our customers are still going to

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Speaker 18: love how much time they can get.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know. I'll be throwing the

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Speaker 3: flat wide analogies and then when you're looking at your

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Speaker 3: grocery built it's pretty horrendous for people as it is.

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Speaker 3: Why are you charging a separate fee when you know

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Speaker 3: when I go into the supermarket and I go through

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Speaker 3: the checkout, I'm not paying a checkout operator fee? Why

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Speaker 3: not included in your prices?

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Speaker 18: So for us, it's really important that we are transparent

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Speaker 18: on all of the pricing, and so it's really important

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Speaker 18: all of our online pricing is aligned with our store pricing.

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Speaker 18: So the product prices you play for products is the same,

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Speaker 18: but then we do have to sometimes charge different fees.

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Speaker 18: So for a delivery driver to actually drive it to

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Speaker 18: your home might be different than if you're using one

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Speaker 18: of our really fast services where it might be a

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Speaker 18: little bit more costly. So so yeah, transparency is important for

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Speaker 18: that mark.

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Speaker 3: Do you have what do you need more stuff? Or

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Speaker 3: do you have less staff doing the click and colick

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Speaker 3: than you of head on checkouts when we were doing

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Speaker 3: it the old way.

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Speaker 18: So online shopping does mean that we actually need to

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Speaker 18: employ more team and it provides important opportunity because we

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Speaker 18: do have to pick orders, we have to pack them

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Speaker 18: and then ultimately we have to get them either delivered

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Speaker 18: to your home or actually increasingly through a director Boot service. Actually,

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Speaker 18: I don't know if you've tried one of those.

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Speaker 3: I haven't marked, and it's three dollars fifty I don't

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Speaker 3: think I will be. But so your wage bill is

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Speaker 3: gone up, and that's why you're trying to call back

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Speaker 3: some money.

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Speaker 18: Basically, this is it's not about making a profit on

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Speaker 18: the fees it is. It is about just making it

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Speaker 18: more sustainable for us in the long term. Yeah, and

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Speaker 18: we are still investing in new innovations to market as well.

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Speaker 18: And so we've got fifty five of these director boots

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Speaker 18: now where you can drive up in your car, leave

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Speaker 18: the kids in the back seat, you don't even have

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Speaker 18: to get out of your car, and we'll actually bring

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Speaker 18: your groceries to your boot. And we're going to keep

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Speaker 18: on rolling those out and we're actually you're also launching

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Speaker 18: a new app on website later this year.

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Speaker 3: All right, we're more.

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Speaker 18: Ay, So there's a lot of beneventon there.

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Speaker 5: We'd love to.

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Speaker 3: Break this last bit sounding a little bit too much

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Speaker 3: like an add for my liking Mark, but I appreciate

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Speaker 3: you coming on the program. Thank you. Mark Woffington is

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Speaker 3: the worst. New Zealand's director of e commerce time is

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Speaker 3: twenty two after five. Would love your if anyone uses this?

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Speaker 3: Why do you need I mean unless you have a disability,

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Speaker 3: or your elderly, or you're pregnant. Can you not get

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Speaker 3: out of your car to pick up the groceries from

902
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Speaker 3: the shop? Honestly, why do you need them come and

903
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Speaker 3: brought to your boot? How lazy are we? Twenty three

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Speaker 3: half to five.

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Speaker 2: Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's Ryan Bridge on

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Speaker 2: hither dup c Ellen dry with one New Zealand coverage

907
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Speaker 2: like no one else news talks.

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Speaker 3: There'd be five twenty five great to have your company

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Speaker 3: this Friday evening. I need to bring you up to

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Speaker 3: speed with this bizarre story and it really is out today.

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Speaker 3: It's Debbie Nadi Wapacker from Party Marty. She's come out

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Speaker 3: and said, actually, you know what I could work with

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Speaker 3: New Zealand first, quite happy to work with Winston Peters,

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Speaker 3: I know. She says the goal is for her to

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Speaker 3: become a cabinet minister by Christmas. And she says a

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Speaker 3: government made up of wait for it to Party Mardi

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Speaker 3: the Greens, Labor and New Zealand First is a viable

918
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Speaker 3: live option. This is bizarre for obvious reasons. Like has

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty six Debi met Debbie of twenty three, twenty

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Speaker 3: four and twenty five old Debbie said Winston was evil, racist, vile, cruel.

921
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Speaker 3: This is Debbie and to party Mahrty talking about the

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Speaker 3: leader of New Zealand First. He was a danger to Tamadiki,

923
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Speaker 3: part of the most racist government in modern political history.

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Speaker 3: She even backed her colleague Grawdi, who held up her

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Speaker 3: noose in Parliament to demonstrate his anger at the government

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Speaker 3: that Winston is currently a part of. And now she

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Speaker 3: wants to climb into bed with the guy. I've heard

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Speaker 3: of strange bedfellows in politics, but this is unhinged. Let's

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Speaker 3: be honest.

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Speaker 19: Did someone eraise her memory over the break? Did someone

931
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Speaker 19: get her one of those hens from men in black

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Speaker 19: for Christmas? Let's not forget their complaints to the speaker

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Speaker 19: about Winston Peters she called Winston's sorry. Winston called her

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Speaker 19: mockaw scribbles in parliam Remember that he also said that

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Speaker 19: she had half the South Island hanging around her neck

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Speaker 19: when he was talking about her poor Namu. Now, I

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Speaker 19: personally thought those comments were pretty disgraceful. Debbie and Rahwudi

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Speaker 19: thought they were horrific. Does that mean Debbie is so

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Speaker 19: desperate to get her feet under the cabinet table she's

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Speaker 19: willing to forgive and forget and trust the man she

941
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Speaker 19: finds so horrendous? This article out today is I think

942
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Speaker 19: quite telling. Brian Bread, it is twenty eight minutes after five,

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Speaker 19: you're on newstalk ZEDBB.

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Speaker 3: You've been to Eden Park. There is an iconic statue

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Speaker 3: of Michael Jones. It's bronze, cost three hundred and thirty

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Speaker 3: thousand bucks and it's up for sale, which means it

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Speaker 3: could be moved. Speak to our panel about this. Andrew

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Speaker 3: Orderson and Andrew Gordy here on the sport Huddle AFTERNOWS

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Speaker 3: News talks.

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Speaker 1: Be Clot.

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Speaker 10: Get in with.

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Speaker 1: Clute. Oh, I get that in.

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Speaker 20: With my.

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Speaker 1: Today's newsmakers.

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Speaker 2: Talk to Ryan first, Ryan Bridge on Hither Dupisy Ellen

956
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Speaker 2: Drive with One New Zealand and the power of satellite

957
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Speaker 2: mobile news talks.

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Speaker 1: It'd be.

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Speaker 3: Twenty four away from sex news talks. It'd be great

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Speaker 3: to heavy company. We'll get to Andrew Gordy and Andrew

961
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Speaker 3: Ordison for the sport huddle in just a second. After Sex,

962
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Speaker 3: we're going to talk about you know, obviously had weather

963
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Speaker 3: all around the country and there'll be a few insurance

964
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Speaker 3: claims being made, no doubt. So how does this weather

965
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Speaker 3: event compare. We're going to speak to the group that

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Speaker 3: represents the insurers about that later on. Also, I'll tell

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Speaker 3: you about the little update because Jared Kushn has been

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Speaker 3: meeting with Putin in Moscow, and we've had Zelenski meeting

969
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Speaker 3: with Trump on the sidelines of Davos, and now they're

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Speaker 3: all going to do a trilateral three way meeting in

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Speaker 3: the UAE. And there's there are two things to update

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Speaker 3: you want. I'll get to those in just a few.

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Speaker 1: Seconds, Bryan Bridge.

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Speaker 3: First, so netball, some of our top netballers are in

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Speaker 3: for a pay cut. The Players Association says players are

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Speaker 3: going to be paid twenty percent less overall than they

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Speaker 3: were last year. Am Z Premiership players can now expect

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Speaker 3: a retainer of between about twenty one thousand and forty

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Speaker 3: five grand a year. Across the ditch, the top players

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Speaker 3: in the Aussie league reportedly earn up to one hundred

981
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Speaker 3: and twenty thousand dollars. Mark Foster is a former Silver

982
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Speaker 3: Fern and a fan of the show. What you say, Mark,

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Speaker 3: nice to have you Ony, Happy New Year, Happy New Year.

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Speaker 3: Now what do you make of that? I mean, it's

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Speaker 3: not good news to start the year, is it?

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Speaker 13: Well?

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Speaker 20: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 21: And I think we kind of realized it was coming

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Speaker 21: last year with that pay cut. And you know, if

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Speaker 21: I was an elite netball I would have absolutely put

991
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Speaker 21: my whole heart in someone and keep trying to get

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Speaker 21: over to Australia. So of course the ones that have

993
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Speaker 21: gone to Australia, they knew that the writing was going

994
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Speaker 21: to be on the wall and like you know, that's

995
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Speaker 21: quite significant for elite netball here in New Zealand. A

996
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Speaker 21: pay cut.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Sky deal. So Sky came with an offer

998
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Speaker 3: which was reportedly lower than the one the previously offered,

999
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Speaker 3: and so Netball Newszland went with tv ands and we

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Speaker 3: don't know how much they're paying, but presumably a lot

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Speaker 3: less than what they were getting. So there's a hole

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Speaker 3: in the budget. I mean, they can't magic up the money, Marg,

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 21: That, do you know what? That just comes from the

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Speaker 21: lead ship at the top, like you know, like that

1006
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Speaker 21: we shouldn't be the financial pressure shouldn't be absorbed by

1007
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Speaker 21: the athletes alone. Like you know, the top of the

1008
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Speaker 21: game has to be sustainable, and obviously the whole pathway

1009
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Speaker 21: is at risk.

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Speaker 17: But you know what's.

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Speaker 21: Happening here, like whoever, in this day and age, we

1012
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Speaker 21: meant to be growing our sport, not shrinking it, Like

1013
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Speaker 21: you know what what's happening out there like Nipple, New Zealand.

1014
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Speaker 22: I've got a lot to answer for.

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Speaker 3: Do you think there's a risk we start losing more

1016
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Speaker 3: players across the Tasman now?

1017
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Speaker 22: Absolutely?

1018
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Speaker 21: Like how can you sustain like you know, even our

1019
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Speaker 21: silver films that are currently here that of course they're

1020
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Speaker 21: going to be looking for it next year.

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Speaker 17: That's all that they're getting.

1022
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Speaker 21: Like you you really can't, like, you know, we sort

1023
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Speaker 21: of say professional athletes, as they're not professional athletes for

1024
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Speaker 21: the Measley salary they're getting, you have to be able

1025
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Speaker 21: to compensate that with extra work going out there. So

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Speaker 21: that's going to affect your performance because it's high performance,

1027
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Speaker 21: so you need a bit of stability. So you know,

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Speaker 21: I just think that there will be there'll be more

1029
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Speaker 21: of our athletes going over the ditch.

1030
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Speaker 3: Yeah, marg had to argue with that at that amount,

1031
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Speaker 3: it's not really professional sport, is it. Mark Foss, a

1032
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Speaker 3: former silver firm with US. It is twenty one away from.

1033
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Speaker 2: Six the Friday Sports title with New Zealand south Ofby's

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Speaker 2: International Realty, a name you can trust locally and globally.

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Speaker 16: This can only be one reason why Scott Robertson would

1036
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Speaker 16: not be funny here, and that's because News own Rugby

1037
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Speaker 16: said it's the terms.

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Speaker 1: Of your departure that you do not say that.

1039
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Speaker 3: If New Zealand Rugby want to say that that's not

1040
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Speaker 3: the case, Le'll come and say it.

1041
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Speaker 1: These are very difficult jobs or as volatile. I think

1042
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Speaker 1: burnout is a huge issue.

1043
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Speaker 5: No one's really talked to me.

1044
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Speaker 8: I've always just been going back to South Aber to

1045
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Speaker 8: finish my contract.

1046
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Speaker 3: Right time for the sports hurdle on your Friday night.

1047
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Speaker 3: Andrew Alison News Talks, he'd be Sports Thread with us

1048
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Speaker 3: and Andrew Gordy's sport commentator. Good evening, guys, good to

1049
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Speaker 3: have you here. We'll get to the AB's in a second,

1050
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Speaker 3: but netball first, Gordy, not a great thing. But what

1051
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Speaker 3: are they to do with the state the books are in?

1052
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not great news, there is it, Bridgie.

1053
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Speaker 15: Like, if let's put it this way mate, if if

1054
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 15: your employer came to you and said, we're going to

1055
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Speaker 15: need you to take a twenty percent pay cut, but

1056
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Speaker 15: over in Australia you could earn well nearly three times

1057
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Speaker 15: what you're earning in your current job, what would you

1058
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Speaker 15: be tempted to do?

1059
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Speaker 5: Mate?

1060
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Speaker 3: See you later? Really? Yeah, pretty much if you're going

1061
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Speaker 3: on mobile. You know, if you're young and mobile and

1062
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Speaker 3: you've got no you know, why wouldn't you? Andrew?

1063
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Speaker 15: Yeah, And it's a difficult spot for them to be

1064
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Speaker 15: in New Zealand Netball. But I've got to come up

1065
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Speaker 15: with the answers somehow. I'm not saying that that's easy.

1066
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Speaker 15: I'm not saying that's easy at all in this in

1067
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Speaker 15: this environment that they find themselves in. But the o,

1068
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Speaker 15: the ones who are in control of the game, they've

1069
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Speaker 15: got to make that's appealing not only for the fans,

1070
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Speaker 15: they've got to make it appealing for the players and

1071
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Speaker 15: every stakeholder in the game. They need to attract sponsorship,

1072
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Speaker 15: and they need to make sure that they're broadcast ill,

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Speaker 15: which like you've just been speaking about. You know, they're

1074
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Speaker 15: obviously going to be with TV and SADS coming up

1075
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Speaker 15: for you know, into the future. They need to make

1076
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Speaker 15: that work and it's up to everyone involved to make

1077
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Speaker 15: it work and make sure that this product is at

1078
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Speaker 15: least on part of what's on offera over in Australia.

1079
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Speaker 15: Otherwise there's only one outcome.

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Speaker 3: Orders. We've got the Texters firing and saying that the

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Speaker 3: Netball New Zealand leadership should also be taking a pay cut.

1082
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Speaker 3: You'd hope they're doing some sort of pay card or reduction,

1083
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Speaker 3: wouldn't you.

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Speaker 8: Well, there's already an exodus of staff there for starters, Ryan,

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00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 8: and there's going to be a lot of onus goes

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00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 8: on acting CEO Jane Patterson and the high performance head

1087
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 8: Chelsea Lane from here. But you've got reduction in broadcast deals,

1088
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 8: you've got pathways and other sports for basketball, rugby football,

1089
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 8: the hunt for sponsors has got to continue. It's a

1090
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 8: really there's a lot of obstacles in the way and

1091
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 8: of course the flight to Australia for Nebra New Zealand

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00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 8: to get across here, and it's it's not going to

1093
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 8: be a short term solon. It's going to take a while,

1094
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 8: I think to get.

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00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 3: Back here yeah, one hundred percent. Andrew Gordy and Andrew Alderson.

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00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,760
Speaker 3: We'll go with Alders and Gordy to make my life easier.

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Speaker 3: When we come back, we'll get onto the abs.

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Speaker 2: The Friday sports title with New Zealand Southby's International Realty,

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Speaker 3: According to six on News Talk ZB let's go to

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Speaker 3: our sport huddle for your Friday night. Andrew Ordison and

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00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 3: Andrew Gordia with me all this whole thing. It's Scottie Stevenson.

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00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:51,479
Speaker 3: We played the clip at the start of this said

1104
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:55,359
Speaker 3: that Raises been gagged and there are clowns out there

1105
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 3: saying he should front up. This is his words, not mine,

1106
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,280
Speaker 3: but it's clear that he's been gag this is his words.

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00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 3: Do you think, well, what do you make of that?

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00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 3: And is he gagged?

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00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 8: Well, I present that would come with the contract exit,

1110
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 8: wouldn't it. But there's a you can't you can't talk

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00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 8: or that you you know, that's one of the clauses

1112
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 8: in it. So yeah, presumably we will be hearing from

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00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 8: Raised Robinson and he'll would love to hear his side

1114
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 8: of the story. And I was, yeah, I guess I

1115
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 8: was really looking for actually when when they first made

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00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 8: the announcement that he would he would front up and

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00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 8: but if he's been you know, under some sort of

1118
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 8: clause there, then there's not much you can do.

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00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 3: What do you reckon, Gordy, do you reckon he is gagged?

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00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 3: Or I reckon he's just biting his time and waiting

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00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 3: for the moment.

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00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 15: Well, from what I'm hearing, he hasn't been gagged. But look,

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00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 15: I'm not probably to the details of the deal that's

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00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 15: gone on between New Zealand Rugby and Scott Robertson. I

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00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 15: don't like the idea of him being gagged. If that

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00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 15: has taken place, then I don't I don't think that's

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00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 15: great personally. But I think if I was raisor I

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Speaker 15: probably I wouldn't be in a hurry to get my

1129
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 15: story out there.

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00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 20: I would I would probably.

1131
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 15: Want to sit and wait five more time, a little

1132
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 15: bit of pressure come out of the situation and you know,

1133
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 15: give it some space. And that's probably in his best

1134
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 15: interest as well. I imagine it's a pretty rough time

1135
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 15: at the moment, emotions will be running high. This is

1136
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 15: something that's you know, this is a pretty snap decision.

1137
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 15: I won't say it necessarily came out of nowhere, but

1138
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 15: it happened quickly, right. It was a decisive move by

1139
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 15: New Zealand Rugby, So emotions will be running high for everyone.

1140
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 15: So I think it's probably in his best interest at

1141
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 15: the moment and just take stop, take a breath, and

1142
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 15: then you know, in his own time and in the

1143
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 15: way he wants to, I'm sure he will tell it story.

1144
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 5: But I'll be surprised if you been gaged.

1145
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would be too. Orders all you sports journos,

1146
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 3: you've all made up your minds and you've all decided

1147
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 3: it's Jamie Josah. Well, I mean that's that's what I hear.

1148
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 3: Do you think you know? Is that sort of a

1149
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 3: how much money would you put on it?

1150
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 8: Well, he's a pretty logical choices and then there is

1151
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 8: a hard nosed for I'm all black. He's seems had

1152
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 8: the respect of the players wherever he's been with that

1153
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 8: skach in Japan or taking the Holders to the twenty

1154
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 8: fifteen title and probably achieving more than with some of

1155
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 8: their parts. And he puts decent team together there. I

1156
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 8: mean you can't get Tony Brown, of course, but yeah,

1157
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 8: I think he'd be a suitable candidate for sure.

1158
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 3: Do we when we go to South Africa, Gordy, do we?

1159
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 3: I guess the ideal situation is that all we needed

1160
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 3: was sort of a change of mindset, you know, a

1161
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 3: personnel change at the top, and will come Jamie Joseph

1162
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 3: and all the ingredients are there. It will be thrown

1163
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 3: together and we'll do fantastically.

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00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 15: No no, no, no no, let's let's just pump the

1165
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 15: brakes on that idea on for a whole host. Clearly,

1166
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 15: the All Blacks are blessed with a great squad of players,

1167
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 15: right like that, that's without question. I think what there's

1168
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 15: a couple of big question marks there? What sort of

1169
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 15: damage has been done internally and around this squad in

1170
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 15: the last wee while. Now that's not to say that

1171
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 15: that's been inflicted by it, by Scott Robertson by any means.

1172
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 15: What I'm saying is how happy is this unit? And

1173
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 15: is it just going to take someone else coming in

1174
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 15: that's going to wave the magic wand and make it

1175
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 15: all better again. I'm not sure that might be Jamie Joseph.

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01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 15: I think the media are getting a little carried away

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01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 15: with Jamie Joseph. I think they're getting carried away with

1178
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 15: the idea of Jamie Joseph and Tony Brown. I think

1179
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 15: there's an assumption, there was an automatic assumption that if

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01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 15: Jamie Joseph was the coach, Tony Brown would be with

1181
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 15: him as well. Now, guys, I'm interested to get your

1182
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 15: thoughts on this. I know we've heard from Tony Brown.

1183
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 15: I think I heard the words that he doesn't have

1184
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 15: an upclause in his contract. Now, that doesn't necessarily mean

1185
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 15: that he can't be bored out of his contract and

1186
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 15: he wouldn't come. But I suppose it depends on whether

1187
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 15: he is a man of his word and he's saying, look,

1188
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 15: I'm committed to South Africa and therefore I'm definitely not

1189
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 15: going to leave. But that is quite different to I

1190
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 15: don't have an outcause in my contract. I think the

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01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 15: tav put up a a hypothetical market and Dave Rennie

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01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 15: with the teen dollars, I'd be pretty keen for a

1193
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 15: bye to that teen dollars. I wouldn't rule that out

1194
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 15: out at all. And just for the final point, going

1195
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 15: to South Africa, that is the toughest challenge in world rugby.

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01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 15: So I don't really care whether it's whether it's Jamie Joseph,

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Speaker 15: Dave Rennie or a combination of Steve Hansen, Graham Henry

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Speaker 15: and every great coach we've ever had. It's still going

1199
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Speaker 15: to be a pretty tough assignment going to the World

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Speaker 15: Champions and beating them on home soil.

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Speaker 3: Alders, you might be able to tell me the Jamie

1202
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:37,160
Speaker 3: Joseph Tony Brown thing. I mean, yeah, because I think

1203
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 3: you're right, Gordy. Just because there's no out clause doesn't

1204
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 3: mean you can't be bought out, although it might be

1205
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 3: very expensive. But can you not have one without the other?

1206
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 14: Like?

1207
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 3: Why are we tying them together? I know they've worked

1208
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 3: together before, but is it essential that we have Tony

1209
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 3: Brown if we're going to go with Jamie Joseph.

1210
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 8: No, I don't think Simon. I think you could have

1211
01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 8: one without the other one. And just having a listen

1212
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 8: to Tony on the like Hosking Breakfast Show the other morning,

1213
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 8: he sounds pretty committed to Sabria and it seems to

1214
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 8: be a man of his word. That's probably how he's

1215
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 8: got the reputation he has that he's loyal to whoever

1216
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 8: his employer is at the time, and I think that

1217
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 8: he'll be sticking with Sava will be my guess heading

1218
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 8: in this from what russier Us was posted as well

1219
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 8: as the Springboks cage right through the twenty twenty seven

1220
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 8: World Cup last year.

1221
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Speaker 3: Gordy, this is switching to Football Phoenix where well everyone

1222
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 3: was writing them off. You know, when are they ever

1223
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 3: going to win anything? And we are now seeing them

1224
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 3: on the verge of maybe saving their season. Is this

1225
01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 3: did cat bounce or did were they written off too early?

1226
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 15: Well, this is the thing about the leg right, You're

1227
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 15: never actually that far away from being able to get

1228
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 15: into the middle of the table and that puts you

1229
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 15: pretty much on the brink of the playoff berths.

1230
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Speaker 1: Right.

1231
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 15: It's a twelve team competition and the top six go through,

1232
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:59,919
Speaker 15: so you never that far away from being Za or vera.

1233
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:03,480
Speaker 15: To answer your question, I don't know if we're if

1234
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 15: they're necessarily back, but I hope they are because Awk

1235
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 15: in the city have obviously coming to this competition. They're

1236
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 15: being dominant, haven't they. Let's face it, but for them

1237
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 15: to be great and to football to really benefit, you

1238
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 15: need the Wellington Phoenix to be strong as well. I'm

1239
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 15: not saying they need to be one on two on

1240
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 15: the ladder, but there needs to be genuine competition there.

1241
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 15: We need two good New Zealand teams. There's no point

1242
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 15: in having one at the top and one of the

1243
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 15: bottom of the ladder, because that's how you build rivalries

1244
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 15: and that's how you build fan engagement. I hope that

1245
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 15: they're back and I hope that they continue on this run.

1246
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 15: But you know, you look at the table, the two

1247
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 15: wins off the top of the table. That's it's a

1248
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 15: pretty tight table that you've got in the A League.

1249
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 15: So I like to answer your question like I say,

1250
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 15: I hope they are back, and I hope we're a

1251
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 15: strong well intom Phoenix makes football better across the entire country.

1252
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 8: All looks dont the halfway through the season, what you

1253
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 8: got three months to run? I think she and Carla Telliano.

1254
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 8: He seems to a feely measured, canny campaigner. I wouldn't

1255
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 8: write them off at all. Yet they could go four

1256
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 8: the spot yets tonight for around fourteen I think, as

1257
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 8: Andrew says, early days, so yeah, and I'd just love

1258
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 8: to see both those sides strong. I don't really have

1259
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 8: an affiliation with either, but I think it's been amazing

1260
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 8: for his young football and then long mate continue.

1261
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 3: Finally, this statue which commemorates Sir Michael Jones scoring the

1262
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 3: opening try at nineteen eighty seven Rugby World Cup against Lee.

1263
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 3: They apparently paid three hundred thousand dollars for it as bronze.

1264
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 3: It's four meters tall, three meters high, sorry, four meters long,

1265
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 3: three meters high, big thing at Eden Park, and it

1266
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 3: was owned by an insurance company. Anyway, they've gone tits up,

1267
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 3: so it's for sale. Be sad if it left. Do

1268
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 3: you think we should all pitch in and buy it?

1269
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 15: Gordy, Well, someone should, But also, Bridgie, imagine being the

1270
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 15: clown who goes and buys this thing to what have

1271
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 15: it in your backyards? And what are you going to

1272
01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 15: do with an enormous statue like that of an entire nation?

1273
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 15: But yet, some people should get together, the rugby community

1274
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,800
Speaker 15: should get together and make sure that it stayed there.

1275
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 15: There is no other logical place for a giant statue

1276
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 15: of Michael Jones scoring a try other than exactly where

1277
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 15: it is.

1278
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 20: So I hope they sort out one way or the other.

1279
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, oh look, I'm just looking at the back lord

1280
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 8: out here. I think it could go quite nicely.

1281
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 20: But it's exactly right. I mean, it's a perfect for

1282
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 20: some sort of benefit.

1283
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 8: There isn't a step in here and say right, I'll

1284
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 8: take this and we'll we'll just leave it exactly where

1285
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 8: it is, and they're a hero immediately, So I think

1286
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 8: it will stay where it is. Like I couldn't see

1287
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:36,919
Speaker 8: trouble is though, if you put it to the open

1288
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 8: market and someone's got enough money and wants to take

1289
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:41,920
Speaker 8: it over sea, that's where the issue may lie.

1290
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 5: But maybe Russy Rasmus.

1291
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 8: Or someone like that public enemy number one, it will be. Yeah,

1292
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:51,439
Speaker 8: it would be a grim situation. But I really think

1293
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 8: that's a broadze statge. I think it's a terrific likeness

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Speaker 8: of that moment from nine ninety seven, and when first

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Speaker 8: tried by an individual World Cup you couldn't exactly do

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Speaker 8: what of a penalty drive?

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Speaker 3: Now you can Orders and Gordy on our sport Huddle tonight.

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Speaker 1: It's six to six.

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Speaker 2: It's the Heather Duplessy Allen Drive Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 2: iHeartRadio powered by News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 3: It's three to six on News Talks EDB. We'll get

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Speaker 3: to the business hour next. Will the storm affect your

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Speaker 3: insurance premiums. We'll look at the week in politics. We're

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Speaker 3: live to Hong Kong and the UK.

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Speaker 1: All ahead, what's up, what's down? What were the major

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Speaker 1: calls and how will it affect the economy?

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Speaker 2: The big business questions on the Business Hour with Ryan

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Speaker 2: Britch and Mass Insurance and Investments, Your futures in good Hands,

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Speaker 2: News Talks.

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Speaker 3: Edb saving up to six on your Friday night time.

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Speaker 3: To get down to business. We'll look at Karne who's

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Speaker 3: wooing she and Beijing. Trump's pushed him into the of

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Speaker 3: the Chinese, that relationship between China and Canada. Peter Lewis

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Speaker 3: breaks it down from Hong Kong. We will talk to

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Speaker 3: Gavin Gray out of the UK. We will look at

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Speaker 3: the week that wasn't politics. First though, another big insurance

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Speaker 3: bill is looming this from the latest weather related disasters,

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Speaker 3: the landslide of Mount Mntnui, the flooding damage North and

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Speaker 3: corimandor Gisbon. The claims will be rolling in, So let's

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Speaker 3: go to Karen Stevens the insurance and financial services on

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Speaker 3: Boodsman Good Evening, Karen Good Evening, Ryan, what's your advice

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Speaker 3: for people making claims at the moment.

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Speaker 22: Well, I think everybody understands that with a significant weather

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Speaker 22: event there are going to be more delays than if

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Speaker 22: it's just business as usual. So what the IFS scheme

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Speaker 22: suggests is that you make online claims rather than telephoning

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Speaker 22: the insurer, because we all know when people are trying

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Speaker 22: to telephone at the same time that the lines get

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Speaker 22: clogged and so that that increases frustration. I think because

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Speaker 22: a lot of people are going to be really upset

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Speaker 22: about what's happened. You know, they might have really precious

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Speaker 22: things that have got destroyed, their houses may have gone.

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Speaker 22: You know that the scale of this again is going

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Speaker 22: to be extreme, just as it was in the Auckland

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Speaker 22: floods and cyclone Gabrielle. So I think learning from that,

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Speaker 22: it's make an online claim if you're in a position

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Speaker 22: to do so, and particularly you know, try and save

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Speaker 22: everything that you can and take really good photos, keep

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Speaker 22: records so that when it comes time to making a claim,

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Speaker 22: you've got all of that information at your fingertips and

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Speaker 22: it's not an insurmountable problem because you don't need anything

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Speaker 22: else to have to deal with at this stage.

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Speaker 3: Karen, what are the when it comes to claims that

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Speaker 3: are rejected or aren't covered. What is legitimate, what's not

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Speaker 3: legitimate When it comes to weather, well.

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Speaker 22: In terms of you know, claims that are declined, sometimes

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Speaker 22: it's simply because people don't have proof of what they're

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Speaker 22: claiming for. So that's why it's so important to take photos.

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Speaker 22: For example, say I've had a flood through my house

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Speaker 22: and I've said, you know, the carpet has all gone,

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Speaker 22: you know, there was stuff on the floor, you know,

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Speaker 22: all of that has been lost. But in addition to that,

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Speaker 22: I'm claiming for pictures that were high on the wall

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Speaker 22: or a television that was high on the wall. That's

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Speaker 22: immediately going to sort of make an insurance say, well,

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Speaker 22: can you show us where the water came up to

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Speaker 22: for example, And in some cases it absolutely would have

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Speaker 22: gone up to the television, but in other cases the

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Speaker 22: n sure, I was going to say, the water didn't

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Speaker 22: go that fast, so the TV can't have been damaged

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Speaker 22: in the flood. So that I think is a really

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Speaker 22: important thing for people to remember. They're only claiming for

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Speaker 22: what's been damaged in the weather event, not other stuff.

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Speaker 3: So first thing, when you walk back into your house,

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Speaker 3: of course, it'll be an emotional time, but get your

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Speaker 3: camera out and start taking photos.

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Speaker 22: That's right, Ryan. You know, it's so important for people

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Speaker 22: to keep those records. You know, we had one case

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Speaker 22: out of cyclone Gabriel to the IFSO scheme where a

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Speaker 22: woman had claimed for a whole lot of stuff and

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Speaker 22: when there was a few questions raised by the insurer

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Speaker 22: and an investigation was done, they found that she put

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Speaker 22: a lot of stuff into a storage unit and so

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Speaker 22: things that she was actually claiming for were not damaged.

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Speaker 22: They'd just been moved. So that's why, you know, you

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Speaker 22: don't want to go through a trauma like this or

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Speaker 22: whether event and have such. You know, terrible things happen

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Speaker 22: and then find that when you go to make it

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Speaker 22: claim that there is a problem with it. So you know,

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Speaker 22: the IFSO scheme sees a lot of complaints arising out

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Speaker 22: of declined claims. There are only really the tip of

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Speaker 22: the iceberg because most insurers most of the time will

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Speaker 22: pay most claims. What's there in some cases, sorry you

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Speaker 22: keep saying it f SCO.

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Speaker 3: What's FSCO?

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Speaker 22: If SO is the Insurance and Financial Services Onwardsman scheme

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Speaker 22: of which I am the obardsman. So that is the

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Speaker 22: scheme that provides a free service to consumers if they

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Speaker 22: have complaints about their insurers. Gotcha, So this is what

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Speaker 22: we do, and so we will get a lot of

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Speaker 22: complaints I'm sure coming in at some stage, but not

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Speaker 22: in the early days. It's now all going to be

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Speaker 22: about making claims and getting them through the system, and

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Speaker 22: bearing in mind that we see a very very small

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Speaker 22: number of claims turning into complaints. And why I would

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Speaker 22: like to talk to you and talk to consumers about

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Speaker 22: it at this stage is that they can actually prevent

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Speaker 22: those claims from being declined if they get all that

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Speaker 22: right information into the insurer to start with.

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Speaker 3: No good to know, good advice. Just finally, the premium situation.

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Speaker 3: I don't know whether this is even within your purview,

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Speaker 3: but do we expect that premiums go up after a

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Speaker 3: big event like this?

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Speaker 22: Well, it's unfortunate, but ordinarily, you know, the more events

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Speaker 22: there are around the world, and it's not just New Zealand,

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Speaker 22: it's climate change everywhere, whether events, it's all of these

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Speaker 22: major things put pressure on the reinsurers to actually put

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Speaker 22: the insurance up so the insurers can offer insurance. So

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Speaker 22: there's usually a flow on effect. I don't think anybody

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Speaker 22: can can look into a crystal ball and say there's

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Speaker 22: definitely going to be a premium rise. But it's normally

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Speaker 22: the result of increased claims will flow on to reinsure,

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Speaker 22: is actually increasing the amount that it costs to ensure everything.

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Speaker 3: Basically, appreciate one thing Ryan before I go.

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Speaker 22: Can I just suggest that if anybody has problems at

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Speaker 22: the moment in terms of accommodation, under some policies, not

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Speaker 22: all policies, but under some policies, they can get a

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Speaker 22: temporary accommodation allowance. So it's worth asking the insurers about

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Speaker 22: it so that if they need it they can get it.

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Speaker 3: Great stuff, Karen, Thank you, Karen Stevens, Insurance and Financial

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Speaker 3: Services on Boodsman. Appreciate your time. Tonight, thirteen minutes after

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Speaker 3: six here on news Talk zb AS I said we're

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Speaker 3: going to get to the political week that was showbiz

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Speaker 3: before news at half six it's.

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Speaker 2: The Heather Dupa see Allen Drive Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 2: my Heart Radio powered by News Talk ZEBBI.

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Speaker 3: Six sixteen on News Talk ZIB, A couple of things

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Speaker 3: to update you on. We spoke earlier about Debi Nadi

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Speaker 3: were Pakis saying yeah, I could work with Winston Peters,

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Speaker 3: I could work with New Zealand First.

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Speaker 4: Why not?

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Speaker 3: And people went what planet? And Winston has come out.

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Speaker 3: In fact, New Zealand First has come out on their

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Speaker 3: Twitter with a funny video with Winston Peters holding up

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Speaker 3: the no sign, so very emphatic, not doing a deal

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Speaker 3: with you guys, no government you're part of? Will I

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Speaker 3: be part of holding up the no sign and calling

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Speaker 3: them again unreformed losers. Now to Gloria Vale. Late last

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Speaker 3: year we told you about this actually on Drive Gloria

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Speaker 3: Vale Christians Score. The Ministry of Education shut it down

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Speaker 3: and said won't be opening for term one. Well, Gloria

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Speaker 3: Vale will be opening for term one. The school has

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Speaker 3: sought a judicial review of the Ministry's decision to cancel

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Speaker 3: its registration. It's a private school, but they've canceled the registration.

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Speaker 3: That's now up for judicial review. In the meantime, it's open,

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Speaker 3: Ryan Bridge Shadow, Azaria. How for the week that was

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Speaker 3: in politics, Azaria, good evening, good evening. Good to be

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Speaker 3: with you, great to be with you. Let's take a

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Speaker 3: look back at the week that was. We've got an

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Speaker 3: election date.

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Speaker 23: Finally, arguably the biggest thing to happen in politics this

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Speaker 23: week the announcement of an election date, because it gives

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Speaker 23: us a blueprint of what the year ahead is going

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Speaker 23: to look like. Election Day on November the seventh. There's

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Speaker 23: a couple of other key dates we have. Advanced voting

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Speaker 23: starts on Monday the twenty sixth of October. Thursday, October first,

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Speaker 23: the dissolution of Parliament. Last day to enroll to vote Sunday,

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Speaker 23: the twenty fifth of October, because advance voting starts on

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Speaker 23: Monday the twenty sixth. On this the Prime Minister has

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Speaker 23: said setting the election date earlier in the year gives

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Speaker 23: more certainty to Kiwi's There is some criticism, Chris Hopkins

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Speaker 23: suggesting that the Prime Minister is trying to cling onto

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Speaker 23: power for as long as he can. There's also been

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Speaker 23: a discussion around post election coalition talks. The PM is

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Speaker 23: saying he was confident that those will be able to

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Speaker 23: be sorted out by Christmas.

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Speaker 3: And we've had a couple of resignations from Parliament this

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Speaker 3: week Azaria.

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Speaker 23: Earlier this week, Labor MP Adrian Aduda Fae announced he

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Speaker 23: is stepping down from politics. Aduda Fay is resigning from

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Speaker 23: politics officially at White Hungey Day. He has a deep

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Speaker 23: connection as well to the adults in a movement which

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Speaker 23: is being celebrated today and Labor leader Chris Hopkins spoke

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Speaker 23: about this at the event, essentially saying he was sure

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Speaker 23: that his final would be happy to have him back.

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Speaker 23: He's made a huge contribution, especially in his role as

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Speaker 23: Speaker of the House, and also MPs from across the

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Speaker 23: divide have talked about his work and how he was

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Speaker 23: kind and respectful as a speaker. Bruda fe first elected

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Speaker 23: to Parliament in twenty fourteen and he will be replaced

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Speaker 23: after White Tagny Day by Georgie Danzy from the List,

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Speaker 23: announced today as well, National MP Marin Pew has announced

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Speaker 23: her resignation from politics as well. She's been an MP

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Speaker 23: for the last decade and actually has also been hit

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Speaker 23: by lightning multiple times. Also the first female mayor of Westland,

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Speaker 23: so an extraordinary career that she leaves behind. She's today

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Speaker 23: announced she will not stand at the next election. She'll

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Speaker 23: be taking some time off to rest and be with

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Speaker 23: her family.

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Speaker 3: All right, And finally we had our first poll of

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Speaker 3: a good poll for well particularly zim First, but actually

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Speaker 3: the coalition more generally are a good number for them,

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Speaker 3: extending their lead on last year.

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Speaker 23: The Coalition would be able to govern again on these numbers.

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Speaker 23: Really the headline New Zealand First seeing a massive rise

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Speaker 23: in support once again. It seems like they might be

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Speaker 23: the party to watch this year because the latest TPU,

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Speaker 23: which is the Taxpayers Union cure Bier poll, put New

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Speaker 23: Zealand First on eleven point nine percent nearly twelve percent,

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Speaker 23: which is absolutely huge, an increase of three point eight

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Speaker 23: percent in support compared the last poll. Winston Peters actually

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Speaker 23: spoke at Dartana just now about his predictions for the election.

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Speaker 3: We already know the outcome. We just want to make

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Speaker 3: sure that you're part of it.

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Speaker 1: You've got two votes now.

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Speaker 5: We're not difficult, we're not in patient, we're not unreasonable.

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01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:25,760
Speaker 8: If you can't help yourself, you didn't vote for somebody else,

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01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 8: but take out some insurance on your second vote.

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01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 23: Well back on the pole, the winner between National and

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Speaker 23: Labor is Labor. In terms of that neconnect race, they

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01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:37,840
Speaker 23: are on thirty four point four percent while National is

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01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:40,560
Speaker 23: on thirty one point five, both of them up in

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Speaker 23: the polls, the Greens dropping three point one points to

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01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 23: seven point seven, the biggest dip.

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Speaker 12: Of the poll.

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01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:50,800
Speaker 23: Act support also slowing. They're on seven percent. Chris Hopkins though,

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01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 23: despite it being a decent poll for the Coalition because

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01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:56,519
Speaker 23: they would govern again, and a decent pole for Labor

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01:17:56,600 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 23: because they'd be they're having more support than National Chris

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01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 23: Sipkins not a fan of that pole. He called it

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01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 23: the dodgy taxpairs union pole. And obviously this is just

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01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:09,760
Speaker 23: one poll, but it is a very significant one given

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01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:13,920
Speaker 23: it's the first taxpairs union curier pole of election year.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for that, Assara Azaria. How politics the week

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01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:20,000
Speaker 3: that was for US twenty one after six spack in

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Speaker 3: a jiffy was showbiz approaching the.

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Speaker 1: Numbers and getting the results.

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Speaker 2: It's Ryan Bridge on the Business Hour with Mas Insurance

1529
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:29,440
Speaker 2: and Investments.

1530
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:32,840
Speaker 1: Your futures in good hands, News Talk zenb.

1531
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 3: Right, great to have your company tonight. I want to

1532
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:39,360
Speaker 3: talk very quickly, very briefly before we get to showbiz

1533
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:44,000
Speaker 3: about some geopolitical updates. Kushna, Jared Kushna. This is Trump's

1534
01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 3: son in law who he sends out and dispatches to

1535
01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:50,320
Speaker 3: do his bidding with Gaza and now we're Ukraine. So

1536
01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:53,920
Speaker 3: he's been in Moscow meeting with Putin. Zelenski has been

1537
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 3: meeting with Trump at Davos, and they are all going

1538
01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 3: to have a trilateral meeting in the UAE. This is

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01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:02,800
Speaker 3: in the coming weeks. And nothing's resolved over don Bass,

1540
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 3: which is the territory that they, you know, the Russians

1541
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 3: want and that the Ukraine doesn't want to seed whatever.

1542
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 3: But the interesting update is that Zelensky has come out.

1543
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:15,120
Speaker 3: He has said that Trump, he and Trump have privately

1544
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:19,519
Speaker 3: agreed on the security guarantees. So Russia, you know, they

1545
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 3: sign a deal whatever, everything's fine, peace, you know, across

1546
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:25,600
Speaker 3: the region, and then Russia decides to have another go.

1547
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:29,679
Speaker 3: What will America do about it? That's always been the question.

1548
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:32,720
Speaker 3: So Zelensky is now saying that he and Trump have

1549
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 3: agreed on that guarantee. Won't say what it is, says

1550
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:41,200
Speaker 3: it will need the US Congress to sign it off first,

1551
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:44,360
Speaker 3: along with the Ukrainian parliament. But that is a pretty major,

1552
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 3: you know, part of the equation. The other part, of course,

1553
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 3: is what about the land that they hope will be

1554
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 3: resolved in the UAE.

1555
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Speaker 1: There's no business like show business.

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01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:04,800
Speaker 3: Pretty five up the six, who's this? Harry Styles a

1557
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 3: bit of a techno song, which is unusual from him.

1558
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 3: He's released his first single in three years. Despite the weight,

1559
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:13,920
Speaker 3: fans seem pretty hot on this new track.

1560
01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:18,719
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh it's so good.

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01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 13: Oh my gosh.

1562
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:25,960
Speaker 1: It was just like it was together and then it

1563
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 1: was like, think all of it that is going to

1564
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 1: stick in my head for sure.

1565
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:36,400
Speaker 3: I need a shot of alcohol now. Okay, not all

1566
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 3: fans apparently like it. I'm a little bit borer, but

1567
01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:43,679
Speaker 3: it was fine. It was fine, five minutes long, unusual

1568
01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:46,120
Speaker 3: for a pop track in this day and age. Alongside

1569
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 3: the single, he's announced a world tour and you have

1570
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 3: to say, Harry Styles is up there with the d

1571
01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:52,760
Speaker 3: Shearings and your Taylor Swiss and your Adele's world tour.

1572
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 3: Wise he brings in the crowds, doesn't he. So he's

1573
01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:59,599
Speaker 3: doing six shows London, two shows Brazil, two shows Mexico

1574
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 3: and get this thirty at Madison Square Garden in New York.

1575
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:07,600
Speaker 3: He then goes to Melbourne and Sydney. No, he's not

1576
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:11,200
Speaker 3: coming to New Zealand. So enjoy this new tune from him.

1577
01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:13,800
Speaker 3: This is aperture on Newtalk CEPP.

1578
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:20,200
Speaker 2: Whether it's macro micro or just plain economics. It's all

1579
01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:24,400
Speaker 2: on the Business Hour with Ryan Bridge and MAS Insurance

1580
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:25,280
Speaker 2: and investments.

1581
01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:29,240
Speaker 1: Your futures in good hands. US Talks EB, you know,

1582
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 1: going on.

1583
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 24: I'm pauling a part rideing Pridal Candle in my way from.

1584
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:51,280
Speaker 3: Seven US Talks B on your Friday evening. This is

1585
01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:53,360
Speaker 3: the business. Great to have your company. We'll get to

1586
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:57,559
Speaker 3: the UK with Mike Pierce, our correspondent just before seven o'clock,

1587
01:22:58,120 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 3: and we will get to our Asia business correspondent Peter

1588
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:03,320
Speaker 3: Lewis in just a few seconds as well. First I'll

1589
01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:06,320
Speaker 3: take you to Davos where you know, Davos where you

1590
01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:08,840
Speaker 3: hear the speeches, and we heard them from Trump certainly

1591
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:11,960
Speaker 3: this week. Also the one from Carney was memorable. Who

1592
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:16,000
Speaker 3: could forget mccron's aviators. They were probably the star of

1593
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:20,600
Speaker 3: the show. But usually the most interesting conversations and the

1594
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:24,640
Speaker 3: most interesting deals take room and take place in the

1595
01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:28,599
Speaker 3: back rooms, the backroom deal making. That's where the real.

1596
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:29,360
Speaker 1: Action is at.

1597
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 3: And apparently after Trump's speech to the press, he had

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Speaker 3: one hundred executives who his office had invited to come

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01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 3: and mingle and hear him speak, a private reception for them, right,

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01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:45,760
Speaker 3: a hundred of them Larry Fink, They're from black Rock,

1601
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:48,800
Speaker 3: Tim Cook there from Apple, the video bosses there, and

1602
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:50,800
Speaker 3: they're all waiting and Trump's meant to be there at

1603
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 3: a certain time. He's ninety minutes late. Now, the problem

1604
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:55,960
Speaker 3: with being ninety minutes late to a meeting like that

1605
01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:59,200
Speaker 3: with one hundred other very important business leaders is that

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01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 3: they get a bit and see, don't they And what

1607
01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:04,160
Speaker 3: they had failed to do Trump's people is give them

1608
01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:08,040
Speaker 3: somewhere to sit. So these are one hundred, one hundred

1609
01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 3: of the world's most elite, you know, top brass business

1610
01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:16,400
Speaker 3: leaders standing for ninety minutes waiting for Trump because he

1611
01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:19,759
Speaker 3: went on and on and on. It is at the podium. Anyway,

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01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:23,519
Speaker 3: he comes in, they all applaud him. He does his speech,

1613
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 3: makes a joke, opened with just got great reviews from

1614
01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:32,360
Speaker 3: my speech. Usually they say, oh, he's a horrible dictated

1615
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:36,320
Speaker 3: type person, but sometimes you need a dictator. That was

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01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:39,479
Speaker 3: how he opened it, which they apparently mixed reactions in

1617
01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:43,120
Speaker 3: the room to that. Anyway. Interestingly, Biden never went to Davos.

1618
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:46,439
Speaker 3: It was Trump who was last there as US president

1619
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:49,320
Speaker 3: back in twenty twenty, although it was by Zoom said

1620
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:52,599
Speaker 3: this is his second trip there. In a second address there,

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01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:55,880
Speaker 3: I should say, twenty three minutes away from seven ran Bridge.

1622
01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:57,920
Speaker 3: All right, let's go to Peter Lewis, who is our

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01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:02,559
Speaker 3: Asia business correspondent. Peter good evening, Good evening. Ryan Carnie

1624
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:05,880
Speaker 3: has been quite smart on China, has he not been

1625
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:09,519
Speaker 3: over the thoring and relations he has?

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Speaker 25: Indeed, this is the first visit by a Canadian Prime

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01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:18,360
Speaker 25: minister to China since twenty seventeen, and there's been a

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01:25:18,479 --> 01:25:22,280
Speaker 25: real collapse in relations between Canada and China over the

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01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:26,360
Speaker 25: last ten years or so. There's been accusations going backwards

1630
01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:30,920
Speaker 25: and forwards of election interference and spying. And you may

1631
01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:37,360
Speaker 25: remember also the arrest of the Huawei executive Menwangzhou on

1632
01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:43,320
Speaker 25: the US extradition request. Canada arrested her and then China

1633
01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 25: in prison to Canadian executives in response. So things have

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01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:53,120
Speaker 25: been really rocky. So this is quite a significant reset

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01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:59,120
Speaker 25: in relations. Had an immediate impact as well, because Canada's

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01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:02,679
Speaker 25: going to reduce duties on Chinese electric vehicles which were

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01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:06,880
Speaker 25: one hundred percent to around six percent, so they'd better

1638
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:10,040
Speaker 25: be prepared for a flood of Chinese evs. But that

1639
01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:11,840
Speaker 25: seems to be what they are. What they want and

1640
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:15,360
Speaker 25: in return, China's going to cut tariffs on Canadian canola

1641
01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:19,360
Speaker 25: oil from eighty five percent to fifteen percent. So this

1642
01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:23,000
Speaker 25: is not just Canada making overtures to China, it is

1643
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:26,760
Speaker 25: China responding in a very positive way. And of course

1644
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:30,679
Speaker 25: this is all to do with the US and Donald Trump.

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01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:34,720
Speaker 25: You mentioned Carni's speech at Davos earlier this week where

1646
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:37,320
Speaker 25: he was basically saying, look, you know, US middle sized

1647
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:39,759
Speaker 25: nations need to come together.

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01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:41,280
Speaker 1: We need to work.

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01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:43,679
Speaker 25: Together to make sure that we're at the table, because

1650
01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:45,200
Speaker 25: if we're not at the table, we're going to be

1651
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:49,600
Speaker 25: on the menu. And you know this is carne in

1652
01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:54,280
Speaker 25: action here. China's clearly his first target, the world's second

1653
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:58,320
Speaker 25: largest economy. The problem he's got, of course, is that

1654
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:02,560
Speaker 25: for sure he will be able to develop trade relations

1655
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:05,839
Speaker 25: with other countries around the world like China, but Canada

1656
01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:10,439
Speaker 25: is very, very dependent upon the US for trade. It's

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01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:15,800
Speaker 25: the two countries are economically very closely intertwined, and it's

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01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:18,920
Speaker 25: going to be very hard in the short term anyway,

1659
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:22,400
Speaker 25: for Canada to replace what has been lost in terms

1660
01:27:22,439 --> 01:27:25,200
Speaker 25: of trade with the US and the damage that's been

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01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:28,800
Speaker 25: done to its economy by doing business. Even with large

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01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:32,439
Speaker 25: countries like China, It's going to take a while to

1663
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:38,519
Speaker 25: reget that economic growth and trade that has been lost.

1664
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:42,080
Speaker 25: But this is certainly a very significant issue, and it's

1665
01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:45,640
Speaker 25: certainly a very significant attempt at rebuilding relations between the

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Speaker 25: two countries.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about China's economy, because we hear GDP number

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01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:53,479
Speaker 3: out this weakest than three years, but we also now

1669
01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:57,560
Speaker 3: have a real two speed situation happening. What's going on

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Speaker 3: we do in China?

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01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:03,519
Speaker 25: I think at the moment, if you're in one of

1672
01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 25: the preferred sectors the president's eugenping is promoting, so for example,

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01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:15,479
Speaker 25: AI robotics, electric vehicles, you're probably doing okay, probably doing

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01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:18,679
Speaker 25: pretty well. In fact, you're likely to have had a job,

1675
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:23,440
Speaker 25: a reasonably well paid job. But there are whole swathes

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01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:26,560
Speaker 25: of the economy which are in particularly the old industrial

1677
01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:30,680
Speaker 25: zones where the factories of China have been based for

1678
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:33,880
Speaker 25: many years, that churn out all these products that are

1679
01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 25: sold around the world, like shoes and household appliances and

1680
01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:41,479
Speaker 25: so on. They are not doing so well at all.

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01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:47,040
Speaker 25: Unemployment is high. Youth unemployment, even though it has been falling,

1682
01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:50,600
Speaker 25: is still around fifteen percent, so it's very hard for

1683
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:57,400
Speaker 25: people to get jobs in those traditional old industrial manufacturing sectors.

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01:28:58,120 --> 01:29:00,960
Speaker 25: And this is causing quite a deal, quite a lot

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01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:06,120
Speaker 25: of consternation in China, this two speed economy. And one

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01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:09,839
Speaker 25: of the reasons why we've got this is because consumption

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01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:16,040
Speaker 25: is so low in China. Compared to GDP. It's way

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01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:18,960
Speaker 25: way below the sort of levels of consumption you see

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01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:21,280
Speaker 25: in the US, for example, which is about eighty percent

1690
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:25,640
Speaker 25: of GDP, it's about half of that in China. And

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01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:28,599
Speaker 25: despite you know, a couple of years of talk about

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01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:32,680
Speaker 25: boosting domestic consumption so that the economy doesn't rely so

1693
01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:36,799
Speaker 25: much on exports and can find some other drivers of growth,

1694
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:40,360
Speaker 25: really Beijing hasn't done an awful lot other than a

1695
01:29:40,439 --> 01:29:43,920
Speaker 25: few pivot all. Other than a few symbolic sort of

1696
01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:47,560
Speaker 25: measures like sort of providing you know, this cash for

1697
01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:52,599
Speaker 25: Clunkers scheme where you can replace household appliances and cars

1698
01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:55,360
Speaker 25: with new ones mobile phones. You can get a new

1699
01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:59,320
Speaker 25: mobile phone and get some cash from the government for

1700
01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:02,560
Speaker 25: doing that, But it doesn't really solve the problem of

1701
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:05,639
Speaker 25: ongoing lack of consumption. All it does is just brings

1702
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:08,519
Speaker 25: forward purchases that you might have made in a few

1703
01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:11,040
Speaker 25: months time to now, and then of course you don't

1704
01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:14,120
Speaker 25: do them in the future, so the problem still is

1705
01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:17,800
Speaker 25: still there. So yes, So although we've got this five

1706
01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:22,240
Speaker 25: percent growth in the economy, which sounds very nice, it

1707
01:30:22,360 --> 01:30:28,200
Speaker 25: meets Beijing's target, there are some very strong underlying currents

1708
01:30:28,280 --> 01:30:31,480
Speaker 25: in the Chinese economy with which are causing problems.

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01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:35,719
Speaker 3: Including the demographics situation, which is not getting any better.

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01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:37,560
Speaker 3: In fact, we have numbers out this week about the

1711
01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:41,679
Speaker 3: birth rate lowest since record keeping began, and I note

1712
01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:45,120
Speaker 3: Peter that they have increased the tax on condoms. There's

1713
01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:49,200
Speaker 3: a way too, there's a way to try and stem

1714
01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:49,880
Speaker 3: that tide.

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01:30:51,240 --> 01:30:54,559
Speaker 25: Yeah, I mean they are trying absolutely everything to get

1716
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:58,280
Speaker 25: the fertility rate up. Right now, demographers say the fertility

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Speaker 25: rate in China is point nine eights. Now that's well

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Speaker 25: below the replacement level of two point one that you

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Speaker 25: need just to keep the birth rate sort of stable.

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Speaker 25: And the population right now is about one point four

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Speaker 25: billion in China, but UN projections suggest China's population could

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Speaker 25: fall to one point three billion by twenty fifty, and

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Speaker 25: if it carries on by twenty one hundred, the population

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Speaker 25: will have more than halved. It will be just over

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Speaker 25: six hundred million by then. So this is a huge

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Speaker 25: issue for China and one that's very very difficult for

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Speaker 25: them to solve. The reason why people don't want to well,

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Speaker 25: not only not have families, they're not even getting married.

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Speaker 25: Young people are not even getting married at the moment.

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Speaker 25: They're staying at home living with their parents. It's because

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Speaker 25: of this two speed economy that we've just talked about.

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Speaker 25: People aren't confident that if they give up their job

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Speaker 25: they're going to get a new one in the future.

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Speaker 25: Maternity benefits and nothing like what you've seen developed economies.

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Speaker 25: So it makes it very difficult for Chinese people to

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Speaker 25: go out and have families. And of course, in some

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Speaker 25: ways they still remember that one child policy that was

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Speaker 25: in effect for a very very long time as well.

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Speaker 25: So historically and culturally, Chinese people just don't have sort

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Speaker 25: of large families, and this is going to cause enormous

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Speaker 25: problems for the economy. I mean, in order for your

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Speaker 25: economy to grow, you need your either your population to

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Speaker 25: grow or your productivity to grow, in other words, the

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Speaker 25: amounts you produce per person. But when you have this

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Speaker 25: sort of population decline, it's very difficult and it's going

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Speaker 25: to have some very big long term implications for the

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Speaker 25: Chinese economy.

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Speaker 3: Peter, thank you for that update. Always appreciate that. Peter

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Speaker 3: lewis that Asia Business Correspondent time is called a siven

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Speaker 3: News talks to it being nixt might pierce out. UK

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Speaker 3: correspondent for US. Zelenski has had a real hit out

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Speaker 3: at Europe over He says, look, Europe loves talking about

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01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:06,439
Speaker 3: the future and saying all these nice things, but actually

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Speaker 3: they don't do anything about it. Today we'll hear what

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Speaker 3: he's had to say to the Europeans at Davos.

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Speaker 2: Next, everything from SMEs to the big corporates, the Business

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Speaker 2: Hour with Ryan Bridge and Mass Insurance and investments, your

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Speaker 1: News talks 'd be.

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Speaker 3: Seven on the business Now. We've been talking about Gavin Newsom,

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Speaker 3: who's the California governor Democrat, wants to be president, and Trump.

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Speaker 3: We'll be talking about Darvos basically today. And this Texter

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Speaker 3: has said, Ryan Besant, this is Scott Besont, Treasury secretary

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Speaker 3: in the US. Be since Newsom roast is the winner

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Speaker 3: this week. I haven't heard this yet, so I've asked

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Speaker 3: Laura and Ants have got this for us I'll play

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Speaker 3: it for you now. This is a besent on newsom.

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Speaker 3: I think it's very very.

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Speaker 14: Ironic that, you know, Governor Knew, who strikes me as

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Speaker 14: Patrick Beateman named Sparkle beach Kin, maybe the only Californian

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Speaker 14: who knows less about economics than Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, it redeemed itself at the end. It is

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Speaker 3: eleven away from seven Bryan Bridge. It's going to Mike

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Speaker 3: psa UK correspondent Mike Good Evening. Mike. We'll come back

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Speaker 3: to Mike once we've got him on the line. You're

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Speaker 3: on news Talk, said b I do have some news,

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Speaker 3: some sad news to update you on out of Mount

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Speaker 3: Monganeing today because up until now, the families and certainly

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Speaker 3: what we have been told is that the search operational,

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Speaker 3: that the operation that is underway there after the landslide

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Speaker 3: is a rescue operation. Now, one of the family members

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Speaker 3: of somebody who is missing there, and remember there are

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Speaker 3: potentially nine, but more likely six who are trapped under

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Speaker 3: that landslide, we have heard from one of those family

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Speaker 3: members that they've been told it is likely now a

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Speaker 3: recovery operation, not a rescue operation. And I know some

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Speaker 3: of you might say, well, that's that's to be expected

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Speaker 3: given the time that's elapsed. Yes, that may be true,

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Speaker 3: but it won't make it any easier for those families

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Speaker 3: to hear. When we come back, we'll go to the

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Speaker 3: UK with Mike. It is ten to seven.

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Speaker 2: It's the hitherto for see allan Drive full show podcast

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Speaker 3: Seven to seven News Talk zib Let's go to Mike Pso,

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Speaker 3: UK correspondent Mike Good Evening.

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Speaker 20: Good evening and starting with news on the war between

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Speaker 20: Russia and Ukraine. President Zelenski's hit out at Europe, saying

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Speaker 20: Europe loves to discuss the future for avoids taking action today.

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Speaker 20: His speech of the World Economic Forum in Switzerland was

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Speaker 20: angry and critical of what he sees as Europe's in

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01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:55,160
Speaker 20: action and weakness. He believed the countries are not going

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Speaker 20: far enough to help him win the battle with Russia.

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Speaker 20: That hasn't gone down well with some politicians who say

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Speaker 20: they've given billions of dollars in aid and house many

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Speaker 20: thousands of families from Ukraine all over Europe. Now on

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Speaker 20: a more positive note, he met Donald Trump at the

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Speaker 20: Forum and said documents aimed at ending the war are

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Speaker 20: nearly ready and further talks will be held between officials

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Speaker 20: from the United States, Ukraine and Russia. Of course, the

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Speaker 20: big sticking point is that Russia wants Ukraine to surrender

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Speaker 20: some of its country to them. Now it has just

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Speaker 20: been confirmed in the last few minutes, in fact, that

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Speaker 20: talks will be held in the next few hours.

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Speaker 3: Mike tell us about the under sixteen social media ban,

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Speaker 3: I know it's a proposal. At the stage, where are

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Speaker 3: we at with that?

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Speaker 20: Yeah, well, it has become a step nearer that following,

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Speaker 20: of course, the lead from Australia banning the under sixteen

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Speaker 20: year olds from social media. Now, our House of Lords,

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Speaker 20: one of two houses of Parliament, backed the move by

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Speaker 20: two hundred and sixty one votes to one hundred and fifty.

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Speaker 20: The issue will now go before MP's in the House

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Speaker 20: of Commons. The government says it would first like to

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Speaker 20: hold a three month consultation before a final vote and decision.

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01:36:59,240 --> 01:37:01,840
Speaker 20: There would then be up to a year to decide

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Speaker 20: which platforms would be banned, but it's expected to be

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Speaker 20: around ten now. Some have criticized the move, saying it

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Speaker 20: takes away choice for young people. O the say, children's

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Speaker 20: use of social media. It is a catastrophe and the

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Speaker 20: band would give a few more years to mature them

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Speaker 20: before they have to use those platforms. And under the plan,

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Speaker 20: the companies will be forced to check ages before people

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Speaker 20: could use it.

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Speaker 3: Mike, appreciate your update. Thank you, Mike Pierce, our UK correspondent,

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Speaker 3: live from London at six to seven, right right and

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Speaker 3: Bridge Rich That is about me for Drive this week.

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Speaker 3: It's been I've very much enjoyed talking to you as

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Speaker 3: I always do here that we'll be back with you

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Speaker 3: from Tuesday next week. Thank you for all of your feedback,

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01:37:41,120 --> 01:37:43,880
Speaker 3: all of your emails, all of you very much appreciated.

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Speaker 3: Beck On Early Edition with you from five o'clock on

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Speaker 3: Monday morning and then herold Now kicks off Monday morning

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Speaker 3: as well from seven o'clock. You can watch it on

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Speaker 3: three Now from Monday morning and you can also watch

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Speaker 3: it on YouTube and on the Herald website. Can I

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Speaker 3: as we go out? ANSWER's taking us out with some

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Speaker 3: music tonight. Thank you to Laura Beatty, who is the

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Speaker 3: producer of this program. Executive. I don't know what your

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Speaker 3: job title is, Laura, but you seem to run things

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Speaker 3: around here. Laura is off to have another baby. Little

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Speaker 3: greedy but whatever, who cares about the climate? Laura, She's

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Speaker 3: off to have another baby and we absolutely love her.

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Speaker 3: She does a fantastic job. You will be missed back

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Speaker 3: in a year. Be a holiday. Enjoy and who are

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Speaker 3: we going out to? Iggy pop?

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Speaker 26: I did mention this yesterday, but the other summer concert

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Speaker 26: series is happening starting over the weekend and continuing next week.

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Speaker 26: So Joe jitting the bike outs we had last night,

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Speaker 26: we'll do some iggy pop today. Lust for Live he's

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Speaker 26: the other headliner on that tour. Zed and Hoodoo Gurus

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Speaker 26: are on it as well, depending on which stop you

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Speaker 26: go to. So that's happening in Topau on the tomorrow,

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Speaker 26: actually Topau tomorrow, and then Spark Arena in Auckland next

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Speaker 26: week and in one a Calf on the thirty first.

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Speaker 3: Rudom have a fantastic long weekend, Jeffers for everyone else.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully we get a quiet waking with as little wine

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Speaker 3: as possible.

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Speaker 24: Enjoy, good luck, well liquids, pass cheese.

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Speaker 12: No, it's gonna do.

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Speaker 1: A straight jiss.

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Speaker 3: W black, give me your chickens.

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