Speaker 1: Okay there, and welcome back to the Mad Monday Podcast,
Speaker 1: brought to you as always by four and twenty pis
Speaker 1: first podcast for this week, out on a Thursday.
Speaker 2: We thought we'd save it up for the finals preview.
Speaker 2: My name is Teno Farsu A Monday are we and
Speaker 2: I am joined by twenty twenty four players, Player of
Speaker 2: the Year ad and Vanua Kezy Afternoon, Keyzy Get.
Speaker 3: I didn't realize that one. That's awesome. Congratulations man. Well,
Speaker 3: it's been a big it's been a massive year, and
Speaker 3: to be honest, I think I have sort of carried
Speaker 3: us in the middle there.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh for sure. It's noticeable when you go off the podcast.
Speaker 2: You know, we sort of we go off the boil
Speaker 2: for a little bit. Yeah, we tend to lead in
Speaker 2: a lot of tries, that's right. Sort Of around halfway
Speaker 2: through the podcast.
Speaker 3: There's also, like, you know, rumors going around that while
Speaker 3: I am quite good, I do bring a toxic energy
Speaker 3: maybe to the changing room. And I just like to say,
Speaker 3: I don't give a shit. I'm off to another podcast
Speaker 3: next year, so I don't even care.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, there was that time where we won the game
Speaker 2: and we came in to celebrate and sing the team song,
Speaker 2: and you fucked off out to some other podcasts or something. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's right, Or we were all singing the team the
Speaker 2: podcast song. Yeah, but I don't care.
Speaker 3: I pretty much carried you guys there, So you guys
Speaker 3: can go sing a little song if you want. But
Speaker 3: all I care about is winning.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent. Speaking of winning, And look, this
Speaker 1: could be an early crow. We're on a TV show tonight.
Speaker 1: It's called Game of Two Halves? Heard of it the
Speaker 1: ACC does What.
Speaker 2: Was your first question when you when you heard Game
Speaker 2: of two Halves is coming back?
Speaker 1: Where is Matthew reg and Mark Ellis?
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, I know the answer to this question. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you can't afford Mark Ellis and Matthew Ridge. No one
Speaker 3: knows where he is.
Speaker 1: I think he was in the office there.
Speaker 3: He was in the office the other day.
Speaker 1: Was very weird.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because he owns obviously. I don't know if
Speaker 3: he still does carfe in Green Lane, the car grooming
Speaker 3: company there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just out there yesterday.
Speaker 3: Is he still there?
Speaker 1: Didn't see him. It's just right next to the pork Mart.
Speaker 3: Pork May is a weird little supermarket area around there.
Speaker 2: Porkmart and then there's a sushi joint right next to it.
Speaker 2: Would you buy sushi from the place next to Porkmart?
Speaker 2: Probably not anyway, So that is debuting tonight depending on
Speaker 2: when you're listening to this Thursday night eight thir m
Speaker 2: on Sky Open, which is the one on Freeview. So
Speaker 2: if you have Freeview, if you can watch any TV
Speaker 2: on your TV, yeah you have that. Otherwise, if you've
Speaker 2: got Sky, I think it's on Sky Sport one.
Speaker 3: Well, if you're listening to an NRL podcast, I can
Speaker 3: only assume you have Sky so you can watch NRL. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so go on sky go if you're free letting off
Speaker 3: your parents account or something like that, or skysport now,
Speaker 3: if that's what you use eight thirty tonight. How are
Speaker 3: you feeling about being part of your first with a
Speaker 3: TV shirt?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Good, pretty exciting.
Speaker 2: Well, it's pretty low stakes as well, because I already
Speaker 2: know the feedback for the first episode is going to
Speaker 2: be with Matthew, Richard Mark Ellis. So that's the funny
Speaker 2: thing about it. What does it matter what we're going
Speaker 2: to do out there?
Speaker 3: Well, one thing, Laura came in and I know you've
Speaker 3: been wheeled around every station, getting with Laura and doing
Speaker 3: the car washer. Yeah, caught the car wash. You've been
Speaker 3: right through, You've been on every station. She was on
Speaker 3: our show on Hadarky, and I asked her. I was like,
Speaker 3: do you feel and I want to know if you
Speaker 3: feel this, do you feel a genuine responsibility to make
Speaker 3: sure the show is funny? No? Why not?
Speaker 1: I do? Oh? You do?
Speaker 3: Because I'm so sick of all these rehashes and people
Speaker 3: are bringing shit back nowadays. They've run out of ideas.
Speaker 3: It's not that this is the situation. They've run out
Speaker 3: of ideas. They're rebooting eighties sitcoms, like making sequels to
Speaker 3: movies that should just be left alone and that all shit. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I don't want this to be another one of those.
Speaker 2: Well if you go, well, no, but the thing is
Speaker 2: people are gonna and if you listen as you would
Speaker 2: have watched probably Sports Cafe and gave it two house
Speaker 2: back in the day, it's never going to be the same.
Speaker 3: It's not.
Speaker 2: The other part of it is you only remember the
Speaker 2: good parts of it, Like you only remember that and
Speaker 2: all of that. But if you went back and watched
Speaker 2: an episode, you'd be like, oh, there were a few
Speaker 2: more misses than there were hurts in this which.
Speaker 3: And the reason we say that is because we were
Speaker 3: sent all the old episodes and I watched about maybe
Speaker 3: five just on in the background, and I was like,
Speaker 3: there were very funny moments in it, but it is
Speaker 3: very much of its time, a lot of people talking
Speaker 3: over the top of one another and yelling and stuff.
Speaker 3: So there's going to be a bit of that tonight
Speaker 3: as well. Yeah, of course there is. I do feel
Speaker 3: a responsibility to make sure it's funny because when I
Speaker 3: think of old shows from when I was younger, yeah,
Speaker 3: Rose tinted Glasses, I remember them being five hundred percent
Speaker 3: funnier than they actually were, And I just want to
Speaker 3: make sure no one tunes in goes this is shit.
Speaker 3: They should have left it alone.
Speaker 1: Well, I reckon, you've really opened yourself up to people
Speaker 1: that listen to this podcast giving you raw and honest
Speaker 1: feedback about whether you were funny or not on the show.
Speaker 2: But if you want to make your own judgments about that,
Speaker 2: it's on tonight eight thirty pm. As we said, I'm
Speaker 2: sure there'll be some sort of on demand thing about
Speaker 2: it as well. And we don't have any rugby league
Speaker 2: guests on this week. We've got Joey Wheeler, mikayeleab b
Speaker 2: Lyde and Brody Kane's on our team and you and
Speaker 2: then Matt Heath is the captain of the other team.
Speaker 1: So yeah, tune into that. But look, let's talk about
Speaker 1: some actual national rugby league because despite the fact that
Speaker 1: our Warriors aren't in, it still goes on. I want
Speaker 1: to get through some of the headlines here, but before
Speaker 1: I do, have you heard anything about the Warriors Mad Monday?
Speaker 1: So they had their prize giving on Sunday night. No,
Speaker 1: so they've gone full zero dark.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I presume they went into med Monday straight afterwards.
Speaker 3: Yes, which, and we've talked about this before. We were
Speaker 3: informed by a former Warrior that basically it's on the
Speaker 3: I think they did it on the Sunday. So when
Speaker 3: was the awards night Sunday?
Speaker 1: Sunday?
Speaker 3: So on the Monday, they all are picked up by vans. Yep,
Speaker 3: their phones are taken off them, they are ushered away
Speaker 3: and then at any point if anyone wants to go home,
Speaker 3: there are drivers ready to take players home. It's a
Speaker 3: full lockdown situation.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The apparently the drivers are like just idling out in
Speaker 2: the car park, that's right. And they've got a full
Speaker 2: team sit with their addresses on it, so they don't
Speaker 2: even need to talk to you.
Speaker 1: That's right. Just get in the back of the uber
Speaker 1: and it's just like yep, sweet.
Speaker 3: You try and tell them a different address, they say, nah,
Speaker 3: I'm dropping you off at this. Yes, I've got right here.
Speaker 1: That's right. I'm understrict instruction.
Speaker 3: By the way.
Speaker 1: The doors are locked. You can't get out. The kiddy
Speaker 1: locks on.
Speaker 3: And I mean this was sort of a ten years
Speaker 3: ago type explanation of how they handle it. But I
Speaker 3: haven't heard anything from a Warrior's Mad Monday.
Speaker 1: No in a long time.
Speaker 3: That's right. So they've got it on lockdown.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a bit sad that they can't be
Speaker 2: out in the wild. I talked about this with Lane
Speaker 2: on the Agenda podcast I think last week. He said
Speaker 2: he got involved in Warrior's Mad Monday one year done
Speaker 2: at the Viaduct.
Speaker 1: He said, Oh, and Gutenbill his pubes.
Speaker 2: On fire, his pubes or Arwen's pubes own lit his
Speaker 2: own pubes on fire.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Now, have a guess if Mike Lane turned around and
Speaker 2: then lit his own pubes on fire. Of course Jeek
Speaker 2: Lane did. Of course you did, but and I do.
Speaker 2: I just missed that part of it. I mean I
Speaker 2: missed it because I was too young. But I just
Speaker 2: wish that, you know, we ruined it with all the
Speaker 2: cameras and filming people.
Speaker 1: You know, it would be awesome if you were just like.
Speaker 3: Did we run it? Not us? What did The NRL
Speaker 3: players are in it? Obviously by filming one another and shit,
Speaker 3: but also doing a lot of pretty messed up stuff.
Speaker 1: But yeah, look, as long as no one's getting hurt,
Speaker 1: I feel like they should be able to do it
Speaker 1: out in public. But that's exactly why.
Speaker 2: There's too many phones, so everyone's going to record everything
Speaker 2: that's right. And I suppose that leads us straight seamlessly
Speaker 2: into the first and biggest headline in the NRL this week.
Speaker 2: Joshadow car pulled over submitted to a random drug test
Speaker 2: across the state I think of Victoria. They carried out
Speaker 2: ten thousand of these like random drug tests on the roadside.
Speaker 2: They caught four hundred people allegedly one of them was
Speaker 2: Josh adocat right, the news story comes out, Oh, he's
Speaker 2: tested positive for drugs at a cocaine on a roadside
Speaker 2: drug test. Then Phil Gold comes out and says, no,
Speaker 2: he hasn't. There's absolutely no truth to that at all. Oh, okay,
Speaker 2: Phil Good tied up with the club. Then another news
Speaker 2: story comes out from the police saying no, he actually
Speaker 2: did test positive. Now they're testing a second sample. Then
Speaker 2: this story is saying the second sample was clean, it
Speaker 2: was hot, it wasn't. And now in the long short
Speaker 2: of it is he stood himself down for week one
Speaker 2: of the finals.
Speaker 3: Which, okay, the police isn't going to go out on
Speaker 3: a live and say no, he did test positive for cocaine.
Speaker 3: Why would the police be lying, you know what I mean? No,
Speaker 3: he tested positive for cocaine. You know, Also, if he
Speaker 3: was definitely innocent, he'd be like, what the hell, I'm
Speaker 3: definitely playing this week and he's stood himself down. Yeah, apparently,
Speaker 3: what was it? So that the team could concentrate and
Speaker 3: so it wouldn't be a distraction. How much of a
Speaker 3: huge blowout is it? You go to the Bulldogs who
Speaker 3: haven't been in the finals in like almost a decade.
Speaker 3: I think it's about eight years. Yeah, you're one of
Speaker 3: the marquee signings, you're the leader in the group, You're
Speaker 3: the guy in the backs that really chirps and gets
Speaker 3: everyone running.
Speaker 2: You're in charge of the boombox at practice. Oh, you're
Speaker 2: in charge of the boom box. You know, probably lead
Speaker 2: the team song.
Speaker 3: I would say absolutely, let's trot boys and then do
Speaker 3: the team song. That's his role. Yeah, he's come from
Speaker 3: the Melbourne Storm and just as they finally make the finals,
Speaker 3: he gets tested positive for drugs.
Speaker 2: He had a week off, so he played in the
Speaker 2: second last game. Then he had like a minor ankle
Speaker 2: twinge and so he's like, I'm out for this week.
Speaker 1: You couldn't have just like one week. You couldn't have
Speaker 1: given it a brother.
Speaker 2: When we finish, throw your phone into the ocean and
Speaker 2: go healthily the whatever you want to.
Speaker 3: Do over it, throw your nose into an ocean of cocaine.
Speaker 3: But right now, just have a week off, maybe have
Speaker 3: a few beers. It's just such a blowout. It's such
Speaker 3: an own goal as the most rugby league shit of
Speaker 3: all time, it really is. So I'm a bit like,
Speaker 3: I'm not a huge Bulldogs fan. They might be my
Speaker 3: second team this year, but that was such a blow
Speaker 3: up from Josh Haadoca. Yeah, they are my second team
Speaker 3: for this year and just because of all the off
Speaker 3: field stuff. I think we've talked about it on this
Speaker 3: podcast before, but there's riots in the street when the
Speaker 3: Bulldogs win at the moment. That's right.
Speaker 2: Their fans are kind of punishing. Yeah that flipping cars
Speaker 2: and they would be. But I don't live over in Sydney.
Speaker 2: I don't know too much about in a area or whatever.
Speaker 2: I just love that people are getting this fired up
Speaker 2: for rugby league, so I want them to make a
Speaker 2: deep run. This is the most rugby league owned goal
Speaker 2: of all time. To now miss that if they lose
Speaker 2: this week and get knocked out of the finals, like
Speaker 2: that's how this season finished.
Speaker 3: And we're going to get to this in a wee
Speaker 3: bit is it's up in the air. Wow, one hundred percent,
Speaker 3: especially after last week's game. Yeah, it could go either way.
Speaker 2: So yeah, Josh Haddaka, what a massive, massive own goal,
Speaker 2: classic rugby league off field scandal. And like on the
Speaker 2: I can't remember what podcast I was on the other day,
Speaker 2: we compared it to I don't know if you follow
Speaker 2: the NFL, but Tyreek Hill, who's like the number one
Speaker 2: wide receiver, you know, he got pulled over in a
Speaker 2: Black Ferrari on the way to the game for a
Speaker 2: speeding violation. The cops pulled him out and like basically
Speaker 2: threw him on the ground. There's a bit of police brutality,
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. And all he did was a speeding violation,
Speaker 2: which I actually haven't seen whether they gave him the
Speaker 2: ticket or not. Right, Josh had o'ka got lit goat,
Speaker 2: but he teasts a positive for cocaine, And just like
Speaker 2: shop back, didn't they go.
Speaker 3: Wow, Well, in that case, he mustn't have had too
Speaker 3: much in a system.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: I think it was like he did it on the
Speaker 2: weekend and then it showed up in his system, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Okay, it's just so yeah.
Speaker 2: Not to just go on and on about it. But
Speaker 2: on the one hand, you've got like just wait until
Speaker 2: the end of the season. But then on the other hand,
Speaker 2: you've got part of what makes him one of the
Speaker 2: greatest NRL players going around at the moment is.
Speaker 1: That he's nuts.
Speaker 2: He runs the boombox, he's very a memorable he seems
Speaker 2: like a real laugh. Is that part of what makes
Speaker 2: him who is?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Anyway, He's out for a round run of the finals
Speaker 2: is Adam g who refereed the Grand Final last year.
Speaker 2: And I think it's important that we give him as
Speaker 2: flowers because the Grand Final last year was widely herald
Speaker 2: it as like one of the best officiated games of
Speaker 2: rugby league.
Speaker 1: Gave but it was, wasn't it?
Speaker 3: Well they said it was. Yeah, they said it was
Speaker 3: the best officiated game of rugby league since I think
Speaker 3: there was a game in the early two thousands that
Speaker 3: they compared it to. It was like that was the
Speaker 3: last time a game was that And it was because
Speaker 3: he was willing to overlook a few things and keep
Speaker 3: it free flowing. Yeah, which meant for the first time
Speaker 3: in a long time, people actually a rallying around a
Speaker 3: referee you instead of just bagging the shit out of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I know, and so I think it's important to bring
Speaker 2: it up. But I wrote down a note in here.
Speaker 2: I just wanted to know, is this news that a
Speaker 2: referee is not referee this week?
Speaker 1: I think it is.
Speaker 3: Too because there's four games, there's four refs that they
Speaker 3: clearly think are better than Yeah, you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 3: so is he the fifth beast Rif I don't, I
Speaker 3: don't think so. Yeah, is he a touchy for any
Speaker 3: of these games?
Speaker 1: Probably?
Speaker 3: I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. Are they resting him,
Speaker 3: is in the bunker. Maybe they're resting him because they
Speaker 3: wont him for the Grand Final?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think it is I think it is news. But
Speaker 3: I also don't think we are qualified to speak on referring.
Speaker 3: You know, we can talk about rugby league. All we
Speaker 3: do is slag off the wrist, that's right. Yeah, So
Speaker 3: maybe a warrior's supporter put her head out on him.
Speaker 2: Perhaps, Yeah, he's cooling down for a week. Maybe he's
Speaker 2: stood himselfself down after a roadside test.
Speaker 1: We don't know. We don't know all of the facts.
Speaker 1: Did you see that Tom Trabohovitch has put a book out?
Speaker 1: You've printed off the run sheet here with a photo
Speaker 1: of the book cover. This is literally the first time
Speaker 1: I've seen or heard anything about it. Same here.
Speaker 2: I just came across it and read it this morning
Speaker 2: when I was deep and real. Yeah, the Turbo Pup
Speaker 2: by Tom Traboiovitch. It's got a picture of a dog
Speaker 2: in front of it. It isn't manly colors as well, makes
Speaker 2: no reference to manly so he ever leaves the club,
Speaker 2: he can still keep selling this book. What percentage of
Speaker 2: the National Rugby League do you think can read that? Well,
Speaker 2: it's a kid's book, so I'm going to say sixty percent.
Speaker 2: It's written with Fiona Harrison, illustrated by Shane McGee.
Speaker 1: It wasn't written with her, it was written by her.
Speaker 1: And wow, just the comments on social media around this
Speaker 1: had been excellent. That apparently reads it to Jake and
Speaker 1: Ben when he tucks him up in bed, Jake gives
Speaker 1: it two thumbs up, and someone else said, I went
Speaker 1: to try and buy this this morning and tore my
Speaker 1: hamstring and I can't finish it for six to eight weeks.
Speaker 3: It'd be funny if they released anyone called the Gerbo Pup,
Speaker 3: which is just a sort of oh a mankey looking pug.
Speaker 1: And then part three the Burbo Pug. Yeah, Pup, Pug,
Speaker 1: Burbo pub.
Speaker 3: Well, good on, Tom Traboy, bitch. I like the idea
Speaker 3: of diversifying. Yeah, and it's not often that literature and
Speaker 3: rugby league go hand in hand.
Speaker 2: No, in fact, never so available in all good bookstores.
Speaker 2: I reckon you might find yourself a bargain and the
Speaker 2: old bargain bin I suspect let's take a quick break
Speaker 2: and we'll come back and talk a little bit of
Speaker 2: Warriors before we get into the awards, and I want
Speaker 2: to break down all of the awards that were dished out.
Speaker 2: On Sunday night, Stacy Pierrett took to the Mad Monday
Speaker 2: Munters group and posted this, which I thought we could
Speaker 2: talk about without wanting to touch up the course too much.
Speaker 2: The one thing we must do next year is get
Speaker 2: a regular lineup kicker of quality. We had five games
Speaker 2: with a winning margin was under four and we missed
Speaker 2: two to three conversions in each with an accuracy rating
Speaker 2: of between twenty five and sixty seven. If we had
Speaker 2: a kicker in the regular lineup with an accuracy of
Speaker 2: seventy five percent or better, we'd be playing the Cowboys
Speaker 2: this week. Wow, we used four kickers this season. S
Speaker 2: Ja was the best and he's gone. Pompey is the
Speaker 2: next most accurate, but he will struggle to hold a spot.
Speaker 2: Metcalf has an accuracy of seventy five percent this season,
Speaker 2: so if he doesn't snap in half again or lose
Speaker 2: a spot, then perhaps he is it.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: Ccht has awesome at so many things, but perhaps better
Speaker 2: at writing about kicking than actually having.
Speaker 1: To do it.
Speaker 2: I really appreciated this. I do agree. I think Metcalfe
Speaker 2: is probably the answer. Well, I know the answer.
Speaker 1: What's the answer.
Speaker 3: Do you want to know? Do you want the answers
Speaker 3: to the exam right now? Yes, Tain Turpikey at fallback,
Speaker 3: at fullback, Chance at center. And the funny thing about
Speaker 3: this is, if Sean was fully healthy, we wouldn't be
Speaker 3: having this discussion. He would have kicked all season. He
Speaker 3: would his confidence would be up, and it wouldn't have
Speaker 3: been an issue. I think there's a good point about
Speaker 3: metcalf and his injuries as well. The issue was every
Speaker 3: week we had a different freaking kicker. Yeah, it was
Speaker 3: just so disrupted. But still, when I think clutch and
Speaker 3: I think worriy is, no one comes to my other
Speaker 3: than Tin Turpeiky, who slotted the field goal from the
Speaker 3: sideline to beat the Panthers at Magic Around. The dude's
Speaker 3: twelve years old. He's already so clutch he is. It's
Speaker 3: just such a hate him. May No, I don't hate him,
Speaker 3: you hate his guards.
Speaker 2: I just think if you've got Roger toy Vasishik and
Speaker 2: Chance and Nicole Clock's there.
Speaker 3: In the centers. It's like the roosters of Joey Marno.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they also have Tedesco, who's one of the
Speaker 1: greatest fullbacks ever here but like potentially Dally Am, but
Speaker 1: it's it's Keanu Kenny for the Titans. Here.
Speaker 3: Aj Bremson's there, but they use they're trying to figure
Speaker 3: out way to put Aj Brimson because Kenny is such
Speaker 3: a young, awesome talent. Like our both centers and both
Speaker 3: wings could be big ball running guys, so that we
Speaker 3: could have a really elusive, fast running fullback that just
Speaker 3: so happens to be really clutching, a really good kicker. Yeah,
Speaker 3: this is my theory.
Speaker 2: It's going to be hard to fit someone in. But
Speaker 2: I actually this is the first research I've ever actually
Speaker 2: done for a podcast. But I sat down and crutched
Speaker 2: the numbers. I went through every game. I've even put
Speaker 2: a spreadsheet on the bottom of the rundown.
Speaker 3: So is that what this Microsoft Excel type situation is?
Speaker 1: It's Google sheets, is what that is. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I went through and I pot all of the
Speaker 2: results from the year from the Warriors, and then I
Speaker 2: went through and recalculated the results the scores for if
Speaker 2: we made every single conversion that we attempted, which isn't
Speaker 2: a fierce step because the other team may missed them
Speaker 2: as well. So I went through all of the scores
Speaker 2: for the Warriors games and then adjusted them for everyone
Speaker 2: made every kick all year for and against the Warriors, right,
Speaker 2: So it changed. So we finished the season ten one
Speaker 2: and thirteen. That one draw against the Seagle was at
Speaker 2: the start of the year. That wasn't enough points to
Speaker 2: get through into the finals. If every team, if us
Speaker 2: and our opponents made all of our kicks, we would
Speaker 2: have finished twelve two and ten.
Speaker 3: So two more wins and one extra draw, two.
Speaker 1: More wins, one extra draw, which would have us finishing
Speaker 1: on thirty two points, which was good enough for the eight.
Speaker 1: Which is similar to what Stacy Parrott was saying in
Speaker 1: the Mad Monday Munts group. So it is our kicking
Speaker 1: just to let us down.
Speaker 3: What you're saying is that if we kicked one hundred
Speaker 3: percent all season.
Speaker 1: And our opponents did as well.
Speaker 3: That we still would to come eighth.
Speaker 2: We would have made the top eight. Yeah, we'd be
Speaker 2: in the finals. We finished like fourteenth or fifteenth.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you'd have to kick. I, oh, yes it is.
Speaker 3: And we've known this too, that we got our kicking
Speaker 3: has been woefull this season. Yes, but everyone said that's
Speaker 3: why we're on the top eight.
Speaker 1: I was like, is it? So I crunched the numbers
Speaker 1: and it is. It fucking is.
Speaker 2: But if the opponent only kicked their you know what
Speaker 2: they actually kicked in real life, and we made all
Speaker 2: of our kicks, we'd be like sixth.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Right, So the solution take the post off the field.
Speaker 2: I've said this for a long time. Kicking is a
Speaker 2: completely different game than rugby league. Just make it about
Speaker 2: scoring tries.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: If we invented rugby league tomorrow, we would not put
Speaker 2: posts on the field. So my solution there is I
Speaker 2: take the post off the patch four. The Sikos that
Speaker 2: want to know, we would have run won the round
Speaker 2: six draw with Manly and we would have the golden
Speaker 2: point losses against the Bulldogs. Yeah, and the Dolphins would
Speaker 2: have been draws. Those would have been those two draws.
Speaker 3: Right, Okay. I just still think it's funny that even
Speaker 3: if we kick one hundred percent of our goals, we
Speaker 3: still just come eighth. Like it's been quite a bad season.
Speaker 3: So the terrible goal kicking certainly has not helped.
Speaker 1: No, it's yeah, it's the only difference between us making
Speaker 1: the eight or not.
Speaker 3: Though I feel yeah, I feel like if you did
Speaker 3: that to another team, it would be like we would
Speaker 3: be third, you know what I mean. But fast, it's
Speaker 3: just making the eighth. I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's like six positions jump up the table just because
Speaker 1: of one portion of the game, which I don't feel
Speaker 1: like should be part of the game.
Speaker 3: Because the try is called to try because you to
Speaker 3: try and try and convert it. Right. So literally, when
Speaker 3: they started this game, they built the whole thing around
Speaker 3: kicking goals.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it was soccer and someone picked the ball
Speaker 2: up and ran with it. Yeah, and then they were like, well,
Speaker 2: how's this going to We'll hang on. Why don't we
Speaker 2: extend the post blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just think I don't know. If it didn't exist,
Speaker 2: I don't think we would invent it. Yeah, take the post.
Speaker 2: I'm starting the petition. Now take the post off the field.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna started taining to a picky petition.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, it'd be interesting to see who's got more
Speaker 2: luck with that. Twenty twenty four Warriors Awards. It was
Speaker 2: the Night of Knights on Sunday nights they dished out
Speaker 2: all of the annual club awards. I think it's a
Speaker 2: bit presumptive that they ski ed this before the playoffs
Speaker 2: every year, and last year was the first time that
Speaker 2: we saw this happen, and we're like, hang on a second.
Speaker 2: They had their Night of Knights and then they had
Speaker 2: to play Week one of the playoffs against the Knights.
Speaker 2: Last year, schedule it for the end of the season,
Speaker 2: but every team is done.
Speaker 3: Every team does that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think Big Dick move next year's
Speaker 2: schedule it after the Grand Final. It's like we're going
Speaker 2: to be busy deep into October, so well havever our
Speaker 2: Awards night after that. Anyway, the awards read thusly, and
Speaker 2: I'll run them past you. You tell me if you
Speaker 2: disagree with any of them.
Speaker 3: Simon Mannering Mitchell Barnett's that's basically Player of the Year MVP.
Speaker 1: Basically, yeah, one hundred percent agree.
Speaker 3: Mitch Barnett has had a career year with the Warriors,
Speaker 3: which isn't something we thought we'd say last year when
Speaker 3: he came in had that neck injury, potentially retiring rowing surgery,
Speaker 3: can't kick goals anymore, like a pretty who was it
Speaker 3: the Knights? I think before he came here, it's like
Speaker 3: a pretty okay Backerer for the Knights, and he's come
Speaker 3: here and he was one of the best player in
Speaker 3: the entire game until the Warriors were no longer in
Speaker 3: the running and they started massively limiting his minutes. He's
Speaker 3: been excellent.
Speaker 1: But effective in the minutes that he was out there.
Speaker 2: I think for the Simon Matoring midle, there's Mitch Barnett, Daylight,
Speaker 2: Shawn Johnson, and then anyone else I think to be honest,
Speaker 2: and only because it was Shawn's last season, but I think, yeah,
Speaker 2: Simon Mannering meddle. No one would disagree with Mitch Barnett.
Speaker 2: And also I know it's named after Simon Mannering, but
Speaker 2: it is just the MVP of the season. Yes, but
Speaker 2: he embodies everything that he's very much a Simon Mannering player.
Speaker 3: And like the one game where we got absolutely embarrassed,
Speaker 3: that sixty six to six game against the Gold Coast Titans,
Speaker 3: he wasn't playing. He was in the squad for New
Speaker 3: South Wales.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I can't disagree with that. Now do you
Speaker 2: agree with this one? The NRL players player and Infanua Blake?
Speaker 2: I do agree with it.
Speaker 3: He was he when he was on the field ball
Speaker 3: in hand, he was our most devastating and effective player.
Speaker 3: He made not that many mistakes, a few drop balls
Speaker 3: and things, but he's the most consistent.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: He was one of our only ways to actually open.
Speaker 3: Like we really struggle with attack this year, and him
Speaker 3: charging through and getting an offload away or a quick
Speaker 3: player of the ball was probably our most effective line
Speaker 3: of attack.
Speaker 2: I think there's one other thing at play here. Who
Speaker 2: the fuck wants to vote against Aden faneur Blake in that.
Speaker 3: I had a picture of him holding like the club
Speaker 3: manager up against a wall and saying, I better get
Speaker 3: win this prize.
Speaker 1: Which one of you didn't vote for me. I agree.
Speaker 3: Let's give him the middle and then he'll be leaving
Speaker 3: next year.
Speaker 1: Take it with you. N RL Clubman of the Year.
Speaker 2: I don't really know exactly what this means, but Luke
Speaker 2: Metcalf won that one.
Speaker 3: Just a guy who spent a lot of time around
Speaker 3: the club. He is a great guy. He's really friendly fella.
Speaker 3: He's been on this podcast before, and he was excellent.
Speaker 3: He was sitting out in the foil when I asked
Speaker 3: Jess Tavanga how his rehab was going, and he wasn't
Speaker 3: in rehab. Yeah, as soon as I came out, got
Speaker 3: a spray from Luke Metcalf's The fuck was that, man?
Speaker 1: If you've not done any actual Yeah? Yeah, yeah he
Speaker 1: was joking, but it was.
Speaker 2: Good sort of. It actually relieved my some of my nerves.
Speaker 2: So yeah, here is the Clubman of the Year, NRL
Speaker 2: Rookie of the Year. Now, this one could have gone
Speaker 2: many different ways, I think, but I do think it
Speaker 2: ended up in the right hands.
Speaker 1: This is Jacob Laban.
Speaker 3: Yep, no, his this season was certainly a season four
Speaker 3: great debuts and promising young talent who are going to
Speaker 3: be playing for us for the foreseeable future. A few
Speaker 3: of those other players that were coming through your Liquahala
Speaker 3: Seemas and Halilatawa Ali Latta of course was great, but
Speaker 3: dimitric Cipercula, yes, and then he had Zamo who came
Speaker 3: on and had a barn storm of a game after
Speaker 3: we got pumped. I think Laban was the most consistent
Speaker 3: his very first game. I still remember he came off
Speaker 3: the bench and I was instantly like, this guy is
Speaker 3: a beast. I love him. I still remember him having
Speaker 3: I was thinking, this is one of the best debuts
Speaker 3: I've seen in a long time.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then and he had a good run there
Speaker 1: in the middle of the season.
Speaker 3: He had a great run, whereas a couple of those
Speaker 3: other guys they had a real shocker one game where
Speaker 3: they missed a crap load of tackles and dropped the
Speaker 3: ball heaps. So Jacob Labor most consistent, and to be honest,
Speaker 3: I think they were everyone who debuted for us. Great crop,
Speaker 3: Oh really great. Absolutely, it's going to be a bright future.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: One hundred and the final award was the one New
Speaker 2: Zealand People's Choice. People got to vote on this one.
Speaker 2: Everyone voted for Mitch Barnett. Can't argue against that either.
Speaker 3: Actually, I just thought of someone who could also be
Speaker 3: in the running for the Simon Manoring Middle and the
Speaker 3: one New Zealand People's Choice Chance Nuckled Clocksta. Every game
Speaker 3: he runs so hard, he makes so many tackles, he
Speaker 3: plays with so much heart. He is like the Mitch
Speaker 3: Barnett of the back line.
Speaker 1: The back line. Yeah, and you want to replace what I.
Speaker 3: Mean at center, So do as much WORKMANI And he's
Speaker 3: so good with his hands and being a link man.
Speaker 3: You want a second contact, give him as little middle
Speaker 3: as people's choice middle and second, and.
Speaker 2: Just to whip through the new South Wales Cup team.
Speaker 2: It was Mila Grand's off for just one everything.
Speaker 3: Oh right, best player, blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: All right, let's take more quick back when we come back.
Speaker 2: We're going to preview the finals as four games. We're
Speaker 2: gonna have a quick whip through there and then blast
Speaker 2: a hunch into the tb app off the back of
Speaker 2: that will be right back four games in round one,
Speaker 2: and they read thusly the first game Storm versus the Sharks.
Speaker 2: This is no in chronological order, so this will be
Speaker 2: very confusing for you at home. But this is based
Speaker 2: off ranking, So the Storm, because we're looking at the
Speaker 2: I have to see the image of how the playoffs
Speaker 2: work in the NRL every year to understand. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 2: I know it's easy and someone will be rolling their
Speaker 2: eyes listening to this, but I just mathematically in my head,
Speaker 2: I have to look at it Storm verus Sharks. That's
Speaker 2: one four, that's one v four. It's the minor Premiers.
Speaker 2: I mean it has to be the Storm, doesn't it. Oh, look,
Speaker 2: the Sharks.
Speaker 3: The Sharks have this knack for upsetting for really, Like
Speaker 3: I go big on the Sharks losing against a team
Speaker 3: like a Panthers or something, and somehow they can pull
Speaker 3: out wins against tough teams. For example, did you know
Speaker 3: that they haven't lost a single game this season while
Speaker 3: playing in the daytime and this game is at daytime.
Speaker 1: I did not know that.
Speaker 3: Now, So the Sharks are really good at playing on
Speaker 3: a dry trail. It's not super that's six pm here,
Speaker 3: but it's four pm over in Australia. They Malbourne have
Speaker 3: only won one of their last five games in the finals.
Speaker 3: So they've been knocked out of the finals three years
Speaker 3: in a row in the first round pretty.
Speaker 1: Much, Okay, they win four years ago, yeah.
Speaker 3: And then since then they've won one of their past
Speaker 3: five oh right, finals games. Yeah yeah. But it's just like,
Speaker 3: I don't think it's going to be as comprehensive as
Speaker 3: we think it is going to be. Even though the
Speaker 3: Storm of the Minor Premiers is my personal opinion, I.
Speaker 2: Do just think and I know we pay him a
Speaker 2: bit of lip service. I think Jerome Hughes, despite the
Speaker 2: fact that he's probably front runner for DELM, may even
Speaker 2: still be underrated. You know, when we look at massive halves,
Speaker 2: like game breaking halves, often will put bits on just
Speaker 2: because they've got to do on their team. I've been
Speaker 2: spending money on the couch just because of Tommy dierdon't. Yeah, right,
Speaker 2: like teams have these gangster haves. I mean, fuck the Sharks.
Speaker 2: You know with Nico Heinz, people have been doing that
Speaker 2: for a couple of years now as well well.
Speaker 3: And he's yeah, he's a shallo of his former self.
Speaker 1: And Hughes is it like he's the guy?
Speaker 3: He is the guy. I what the guy who had
Speaker 3: a hat trick and two tryst this last week or something. Yeah,
Speaker 3: exactly if they can limit Hughes, I think Melbourne's defense
Speaker 3: isn't like if you can just run through Nick Meaney
Speaker 3: and Will Warbricks still is still learning to play rugby league.
Speaker 3: Like I think he is a practising player, great finisher,
Speaker 3: great finisher, but shit, he is still like figuring out
Speaker 3: where he needs to be on defense and things like that.
Speaker 3: So I think there are gaps and also daytime the
Speaker 3: Sharks backline is electric when it gets going.
Speaker 1: Okay, do you think Sharks?
Speaker 3: No, I think Storm will win, but I think it's
Speaker 3: going to be a close game.
Speaker 2: By the way, for our TV hunch this week, let's
Speaker 2: put this together in real time. Let's pick a winner
Speaker 2: from each of the games. So I'm going to add
Speaker 2: Storm to the betslip. But I do think that it's
Speaker 2: going to be a good game. Yeah, to watch the
Speaker 2: next one.
Speaker 3: Fact, if I had to put a hunch on, it
Speaker 3: would be whoever's going up against Warbrick, So war Bricks
Speaker 3: on the right side, which would be Mollitala m That's
Speaker 3: who I would bet on to score a try. But
Speaker 3: Melbourne to win would be a nice little one too,
Speaker 3: I think. Okay, it's my spitborn here.
Speaker 1: So the next game on our list is five plays eight.
Speaker 1: That's the Cowboys versus the Knights section of the last
Speaker 1: game of the round.
Speaker 2: It's very confusing. It's not at all any Cowboys v.
Speaker 2: Nights the Knights. Would it surprise you to know that
Speaker 2: there are three dollars and five cents outsiders?
Speaker 3: I think, like the Cowboys flip a coin. Are they
Speaker 3: going to play amazing or are they going to play shit? Yeah?
Speaker 3: But I think that's starting to get a bit of
Speaker 3: a roll on heading into this and I think the
Speaker 3: Knights really struggle to They're not the Knights of last
Speaker 3: season where Ponger would come on link up and Greek
Speaker 3: Marje would score a hat trick in the corner.
Speaker 1: Every week nine games in a row.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just I think that's struggling a bit the
Speaker 3: Knights to actually generate points, whereas the cow Boys are
Speaker 3: coming into their own. I think the Cowboys going to
Speaker 3: win that one.
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll check the Cowboys and the bit slip there.
Speaker 1: Look this one.
Speaker 3: These are the ones that if the Malti is going
Speaker 3: to be blown, it's going to be these this game
Speaker 3: or the Bulldogs Eagles.
Speaker 1: This one is just like does Ponga go super said?
Speaker 1: That's right or not?
Speaker 2: And I don't know. I mean, it's the same thing
Speaker 2: I was talking about with Hughes. It's just like, are
Speaker 2: you bidding on the superstar being too good for the
Speaker 2: other team.
Speaker 3: I think Pongo will go super sad, but they need
Speaker 3: them to be super said like level two? Yeah, right,
Speaker 3: even three with the long hair, yeah absolutely, yeah, that's three.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then what's the one where they're like full red
Speaker 2: here all over them is at four four.
Speaker 3: Is when they go black here and then get weird
Speaker 3: red sort of monkeys.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, right, Oh look, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Well, these are the ones they are going to bust
Speaker 3: open the multi I was nights right up until I
Speaker 3: saw the three dollars and five cents. Hey, man, up,
Speaker 3: be a sheep and I trust your gut. What's the
Speaker 3: point of having a gut if you can't trust it.
Speaker 1: I just I don't know. Three dollars is a scary amount.
Speaker 2: Anyway, Let's go to the next one, Bulldogs versus Seagles.
Speaker 1: This is actually the last game of the round. We're
Speaker 1: doing it the second last. This one's the closest at
Speaker 1: the tab. Canterbary banks Down Bulldogs dollar ninety five, Manly
Speaker 1: Seagulls dollar eighty seven. This one genuinely for me as
Speaker 1: a coin toss. But I did I did say.
Speaker 2: I'm throwing my hat in the ring with the Canterbury
Speaker 2: Bankstown Bulldogs as my secondary team. I want to see
Speaker 2: them go deep into the season. The Josh Hadowkarstuffski is
Speaker 2: the purse out of me going into this game.
Speaker 3: What about the fact that a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 3: The Seagulls beat the Bulldogs thirty four to twenty two. Yeah,
Speaker 3: on the thirtieth of August, which was two rounds ago.
Speaker 3: I know, what about the fact that Steve I don't
Speaker 3: think Stephen Crichton was playing for that game. What about
Speaker 3: the fact that Tom Turbo is out I am now
Speaker 3: writing kids books like that. I feel like the Seagulls
Speaker 3: can skill, still score a lot of points. Their backline
Speaker 3: still has these super fast guns with daily Cherry Evans
Speaker 3: in the middle, but no Tomo. I also think the
Speaker 3: Seagles through the middle have just got a stronger forward pack.
Speaker 3: Like it's just this, Yeah, it's a real toss of
Speaker 3: the coin. Can the book I think with the game
Speaker 3: has actually been played in Where is this one? It
Speaker 3: is on Sunday Stadium, Australia, so it's in Sydney Bulldogs
Speaker 3: home turf. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Uh, I'm gonna say Bulldogs. I'm gonna say Bulldogs. See
Speaker 1: my vibes, says Manly.
Speaker 3: But go with your You're the anchor, okay, I'm anchoring
Speaker 3: this bit.
Speaker 1: You're the team captain and I ah.
Speaker 2: And then the last game of our multi which is
Speaker 2: the ghost game of the round which is the Panthers
Speaker 2: versus the Roosters.
Speaker 1: I think Panthers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I just think Sam Walker and Brandon Smith
Speaker 2: a CL's last week. They will be scrambling the Roosters.
Speaker 2: The Panthers have been so far off the boil lately
Speaker 2: though as well.
Speaker 3: The Panthers've got Yeah, Edward's injured Cleary back, but he'll
Speaker 3: be rusty.
Speaker 1: He will be very rusty. I wonder if they've rushed
Speaker 1: him as well.
Speaker 3: The Panthers have been clunky, as you mentioned the Roosters. No,
Speaker 3: Sam Walker, that's huge. That is going to massage the
Speaker 3: whole way they kind of play because he's been such
Speaker 3: a massive part of it. They've still got guys like
Speaker 3: Joey Marno, James Tidiesco. They also lost Brandon Smith. They
Speaker 3: got Cary there as well, who like he's a pretty
Speaker 3: freaking good player. Yeah, I'm young. Don Yelm is going
Speaker 3: to be there. I think Penrith will win this. I
Speaker 3: also think we'll get a glimpse of Penrith clicking into
Speaker 3: finals mode.
Speaker 2: It's experienced, isn't it it is? They have won nine straight.
Speaker 2: We always finals games For some reason. I think most
Speaker 2: people just think about the Panthers as Nathan Cleary. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I know we were just talking about superstars been the
Speaker 2: whole reason you play bets on, but I feel like
Speaker 2: they are more than that, and I don't think that that,
Speaker 2: you know, and also the experience thing they've been there
Speaker 2: that many times.
Speaker 3: Do you want James Fisher Harris coming to the Warriors
Speaker 3: having won again, or do you want him coming to
Speaker 3: the Warriors pest off that he didn't get to win
Speaker 3: one last time with the Panthers having one again?
Speaker 1: I think you reckon.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't want him like annoyed and desperate to
Speaker 3: win another one with the Warriors now.
Speaker 2: I want him to walk in and for all of
Speaker 2: those young guys to be like fuck, every time he's
Speaker 2: walked onto a field in the National Rugby League, he
Speaker 2: has won the competition in the last four years, So
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I think that's where IM going to go.
Speaker 2: So if we just looking back on at Melbourne Storm, Cowboys, Bulldogs, Panthers,
Speaker 2: you multi those all up, that's paying four dollars eighty
Speaker 2: nine and we put one hundred dollars bonus cash on that,
Speaker 2: thank so our mates at the TIRB And that's paying
Speaker 2: four hundred and eighty nine dollars, so we'll place that
Speaker 2: one on the now. And it's also just a great
Speaker 2: way to keep yourself interested in the first round of
Speaker 2: the playoffs when the Warriors aren't.
Speaker 3: They well, to be honest that this week just gone.
Speaker 3: I had a sort of purge week where I just
Speaker 3: went full, the Warriors are done. Yeah, the finals are
Speaker 3: starting soon. I don't really care who makes that last spot,
Speaker 3: you know, So I just didn't watch the NR. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I didn't listen to any podcasts. I went full, like
Speaker 3: week are Dark thirty because I'm about to go straight
Speaker 3: into finals mode, which is going to be a pretty
Speaker 3: intense month. Yeah, and you're in finals mode now you're
Speaker 3: looking at it, man, Yeah? Hell yeah, Finals mode? Man,
Speaker 3: It's crazy all right.
Speaker 2: And if you want to see Christine Finals Mode on
Speaker 2: the TV, you can tune in again to that show.
Speaker 2: ACC does Game of Two Halves eight thirty pm Thursday night,
Speaker 2: Sky Open, Sky Sport one. And we'll be back next
Speaker 2: week for another episode of the Mad Monday podcast.
Speaker 3: Eh cheers man, Okay,