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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine

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Speaker 1: from Newstalks EDB.

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Speaker 2: What's a sports You're to endure? Thirty sixteen spring box

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Speaker 2: lead ball in midfield? Do they want another?

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Speaker 3: One?

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Speaker 2: Live box? Now for Villimsa down the left hand side

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Speaker 2: of the park, Willimsa swerving through now finding Williams cutting shapes,

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Speaker 2: off loading mister Hazen. They got to score another forty one,

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Speaker 2: ten kept to come. It's the box, the never biggest

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Speaker 2: ever went over the.

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Speaker 4: All Blacks South Africa forty three All Blacks ten All

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Speaker 4: Blacks Assistant coach Jason Ryan is with us. What happened?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, disappointing. We just basically lost all our momentum. We Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we had a bit of a meltdown and a couple

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Speaker 3: of decisions under pressure and just couldn't get the rhythm

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Speaker 3: and they got away orse than that second half. And yeah,

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Speaker 3: we're going to take a pretty hard look at ourselves,

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Speaker 3: to be honest. Yeah, I think we uh, you know,

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Speaker 3: we lost a little bit of momentum and timing and

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Speaker 3: our set piece as well. That's that's on me. I'll

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Speaker 3: take responsibility for that. We missed a couple of couple

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Speaker 3: of lineouts at key times where the scrum was. I

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Speaker 3: think the scrum count was they won three penalties, we won,

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Speaker 3: we won two, so that was they got a head

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Speaker 3: there and one. So yeah, I'll just take four responsibility

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Speaker 3: for my air and the set piece. We've got to

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Speaker 3: have a real hard look at ourselves in that part

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Speaker 3: of our game because we pride ourselves on that and

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Speaker 3: we just went up to par last night.

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Speaker 4: How did the performance deteriorate so much compared to last week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's a great question. Look, I haven't looked

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Speaker 3: at all of the game yet. I've only got to

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Speaker 3: just after halftime. I thought we played some mores and rugby,

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Speaker 3: and the ball and hand in the first forty was

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Speaker 3: right on, and then you know, halftime, the boys felt

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Speaker 3: fresh and we just yeah that we just made era

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Speaker 3: after era and then some when we did win some lineouts.

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Speaker 3: I thought our kicking was not good enough and we

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Speaker 3: lost the aerial battle and we pretty much lost everything,

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Speaker 3: to be fair, So when we review that deeply, we've

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Speaker 3: got to make some adjustment adjustments pretty quick. We put.

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Speaker 3: We put a lot into that dismatch. We put we

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Speaker 3: thought we had a great week in preparation we You know,

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Speaker 3: we talked a lot around the week before, earlier in

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Speaker 3: the week and getting getting a mental side right. It

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Speaker 3: wasn't so much performing the putting together the same performance

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Speaker 3: as Eden Park, but it was getting there to the

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Speaker 3: same mental performance. And I just don't think we were there.

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Speaker 3: And I think everyone could have seen that that that last half,

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Speaker 3: we we just didn't come out of the blocks and

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Speaker 3: we didn't get any rhythm up. I can't really explain

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Speaker 3: any simply that, to be honest.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And how do you explain that that in the

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Speaker 4: second half it just all fell apart so spectacularly it did.

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Speaker 3: We missed I think forty odd tackles or forty plus tackles.

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Speaker 3: It was pretty much every part of our game just misfunctioned.

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Speaker 3: The box got a roll on, They played smart and

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Speaker 3: to be honest, gave us a lesson.

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Speaker 4: Do you think some players gave up near the end?

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't like to say that. I hope that wasn't

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Speaker 3: the case on these boys. Care Look, I know that

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Speaker 3: the performance doesn't look like that. There was much kere shown,

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Speaker 3: but where we just couldn't get it, we couldn't get

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Speaker 3: our hands on the ball. Where we did we lost

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Speaker 3: it and we just yeah, we just weren't there under

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Speaker 3: pressure when it mattered. I can't put it any simpler

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Speaker 3: than that. And we'll take full responsibility for that as

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Speaker 3: a forwards coach, and we've got we've got to front

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Speaker 3: up and be better, a lot better moving forward. We

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Speaker 3: know that we have to be.

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Speaker 4: Now, do you expect to face scrutiny after this?

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Speaker 3: Yep? And we should.

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Speaker 4: What do you think the things that will be worrying

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Speaker 4: All Black fans the most today will be.

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Speaker 3: Probably everything that I've covered. You know, we've got the

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Speaker 3: ownership part of areas of big rocks of our game

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Speaker 3: and the executing basic skill sets under pressure. I've pretty

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Speaker 3: much just covered and I think we've got every right

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Speaker 3: to to cop it with that performance, and we can't

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Speaker 3: hide from that. I know we won't be either.

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Speaker 4: How has the aerial battle become so challenging for the

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Speaker 4: All Blacks?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's look at it. I think it's challenging. And

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Speaker 3: when you look at all of the games, if I

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Speaker 3: just identify the Rugby Championship, the teams that win the

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Speaker 3: aerial battle often win the test match, and the scores

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Speaker 3: that are quite high score games like you know, Australia

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Speaker 3: put what thirty eight points on the spring blocks of

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Speaker 3: Alve Park and the area or better was good over there.

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Speaker 3: So it's fine lines between I think when we kick,

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Speaker 3: that's changed the most, obviously with the escorting laws and

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Speaker 3: that sort of thing. It's a in all honesty, it's

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Speaker 3: a fifty to fifty when that ball's in the air.

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Speaker 4: Why then aren't we winning more of the fifty fifties?

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Speaker 3: Why are we winning more of the fifty fifties?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean, if it's fifty fifty, we should we

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Speaker 4: should win half of them, shouldn't we?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well we did the week before we won most

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Speaker 3: of them. This is last night we didn't.

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Speaker 4: Are you getting what you need from your on field leaders.

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Speaker 3: At times? You know, I think that they will have

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Speaker 3: a look at that as well. When we're calling our

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Speaker 3: strapped and what what calls are made at the right

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Speaker 3: time in the moment, I think that, you know, there'll

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Speaker 3: be some good ic conversations there. There have to be.

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Speaker 3: But everything from the coaching group, we lead it. We

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Speaker 3: give them the information that they have to execute. So,

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Speaker 3: like I said, I'm only talking about my area I'll

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Speaker 3: take ownership for the set piece side of it, and

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Speaker 3: it's got to be better on me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I don't think Jason, you can take responsibility

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Speaker 4: for a lineout at sixty minutes says seventeen to ten down,

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Speaker 4: new hooker on the field who hasn't a lot of

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Speaker 4: All Blacks experience and the throw goes to the back.

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Speaker 4: You can't take responsibility for that, can you. That's an

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Speaker 4: on field decision.

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Speaker 3: It is an on flod decision, and that decision there

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Speaker 3: could have been a couple of different options that could

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Speaker 3: have been taken ahead of that one. Yep, there could

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Speaker 3: have been and you know, like that line out, we've

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Speaker 3: got three or four calls that we could have gone to.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, I agree with you.

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Speaker 4: Scott Robertson said after the game last night. In order

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Speaker 4: to fix this, you have to be clear about what

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Speaker 4: matters most on and off the field. You can't go

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Speaker 4: chasing a whole bunch of stuff. What do you think

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Speaker 4: the really key things are for the next next teen

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Speaker 4: to twelve days ahead of the first let us low test.

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Speaker 3: Well, we've got to address our performing under pressure and

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Speaker 3: obviously the moments that shift in this game so quick,

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Speaker 3: like you know, I was still in the Felix Jones

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Speaker 3: after the game, he said, cheers on Colby doesn't get

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Speaker 3: that into sept It's a different ball game, you know,

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Speaker 3: and then that's a different score line, and then that's

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Speaker 3: pressure on them, realis he did get it, and then

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Speaker 3: that probably shifted the momentum as well. So look, we've

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Speaker 3: got to secure the ball. We've got to look after

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Speaker 3: the ball better than what we have been and address

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Speaker 3: the decisions we're making at key times.

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Speaker 4: You'll be very open and honest during this chat, Jason.

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Speaker 4: Is that the feeling that permeates throughout the team as well?

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Speaker 3: Yep, yeah it is. And honestly, Jason, you just can't hide.

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Speaker 3: And you know I've been in teams. I've been in

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Speaker 3: probably the All Blacks as well, and that tooking him

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Speaker 3: test a few years ago, and they gave us a

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Speaker 3: decent toil up then. So it's how we react from it.

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Speaker 3: We were well off par they played well, but we

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Speaker 3: have to be a lot better. We have to look

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Speaker 3: at ourselves really harder, and that starts from the coaches group.

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Speaker 3: I know for myself first and foremost, because I'm responsible.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for your time this afternoon. Jas, I appreciate it

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Speaker 4: very much. Jason Ryan, assistant coach of the All Blacks.

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