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Speaker 1: This rates cap. How's it actually gonna work? I had

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Speaker 1: Luxon on my Herald show yesterday. We'll get an announcement

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Speaker 1: coming in the next few weeks on this. But ask

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Speaker 1: any mayor, and not the ones who like disco Loes

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Speaker 1: and Golden Miles, but any mayor that already does the

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Speaker 1: basics stuff. They are cutting their cloth. Tim mcindo and

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Speaker 1: Hamilton I spoke to the Tutedhoom mayor yesterday. They all

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Speaker 1: say the same thing. We are doing the basics, we've

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Speaker 1: cut the silly stuff, and we don't know how this

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Speaker 1: is going to work without bankrupting local government. RIMA reforms

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Speaker 1: will be a big part of this. Luxeon's talking about amalgamation.

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Speaker 1: If there are fewer consents needed or consents are streamlined,

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Speaker 1: do we need so many councils with a back office

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Speaker 1: bigger than Kim Kay's booty. Probably not so. Less work,

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Speaker 1: especially for regional councils. Could lipeose some cost out of

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Speaker 1: the system, that'd be good. Then there's the back office.

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Speaker 1: More generally now the Tatdom mayor, his name's Scott Gilmore,

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Speaker 1: interstant guy. He made a good point that about double

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Speaker 1: up that we've got going on. We have something like

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Speaker 1: sixty seven territorial authorities in New Zealand. All have their

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Speaker 1: own finance departments, All have their own comms teams, not

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Speaker 1: that they talk to us. All have their own legal teams.

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Speaker 1: The full kitten kaboodle. Can they combine the back office

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Speaker 1: a bunch across a bunch of councils and save some

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Speaker 1: cash that way? He reckons they can, and to his credit,

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Speaker 1: he's already talking to his neighbors about doing exactly that.

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Speaker 1: But even with no frills and just upkeep on the basics,

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Speaker 1: residents are still staring down the barrel of double digit

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Speaker 1: rate increases or at least north of seven percent, which

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Speaker 1: as we know, is more than inflation. So a rates cap,

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Speaker 1: like a move on order for rowdy rough sleepers on

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Speaker 1: Queen Street might sound like a good idea, but is

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Speaker 1: it fixing a problem or simply moving it down the

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Speaker 1: road for somebody else to have to clean up. For

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