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Speaker 3: Well and welcome today. The tourist levy scrap as one

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Speaker 3: threats we face in terms of terror. Mark and Genie

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Speaker 3: do politics Wednesday after right, Richard Arnold Steve Prize. They

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Speaker 1: As well pasking.

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Speaker 3: We're in the middle of the week Wednesday morning, welcome

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Speaker 3: to it. There are a number of things that stand

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Speaker 3: out to me anyway post COVID that are disappointing. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: the recessionary state this place has been in the carnage

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Speaker 3: ultimately tied into the one major event, i e. COVID tourism.

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Speaker 3: Though tourism stands out as the most clear example of

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Speaker 3: something we've had and something we've now lost. Not literally,

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Speaker 3: they're still a rve, but not like they used to

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Speaker 3: nowhere else's we're maround at about eighty percent, and that

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Speaker 3: And all those tens of not hundreds of thousands of

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Speaker 3: that the world hasn't been traveling, just not here. Enter

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Speaker 3: industry operators don't like it. I don't blame them. See,

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Speaker 3: doing it tough is hard enough without heaping more cost on.

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Speaker 3: I assume the government took that into account. They defend

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Speaker 3: it by comparing us to the fees of other countries.

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Speaker 3: But isn't that the point? We aren't other countries, and

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Speaker 3: the numbers show it. I still want to argue one

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Speaker 3: you over? But here's the inescapable truth. Tourism, along with Derry,

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Speaker 3: Brit in the summer of misery, if it would be

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Speaker 3: illegal migrants continues with yet another boat tipping over and

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Speaker 3: at least twelve dead.

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Speaker 4: With this many people, it would be a sort of

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Speaker 3: And that's before on land we get to the granddad

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Speaker 6: I never had any problem, never heard anything sharping anything

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Speaker 3: The war was firstly in Ukraine. The Russian missiles have

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Speaker 3: Back in Russia, the starting military training in schools service.

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Speaker 8: You never know what kind of situation you might be,

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Speaker 8: so I welcome.

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Speaker 8: Without basic military education, our children are not our children.

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Speaker 10: This breathed patriotism.

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Speaker 3: Bled meanwhiles in Mongolia. And there's a story and I'll

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Speaker 11: Of course, our country and the armed forces will do

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Speaker 11: everything to ensure normal life in these regions and normal

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Speaker 3: I'm sure this will happen, there's no doubt. And in

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Speaker 1: It's not a personal thing.

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Speaker 2: This really threatens the loss of the deal and the

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Speaker 1: Would not sign of deal we're not bring.

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Speaker 12: This crisis to an end.

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Speaker 13: This actually ruins the social fabric of our society.

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Speaker 3: Finally, at the Paralympics, they've had bed trouble. The Iranian

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Speaker 3: The little bit of public outcry about this, they said, look,

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Speaker 3: By the way, Venezuela's ramping up. Yesterday, we told you

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Speaker 5: Yeah, morning mate.

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Speaker 3: Quick word on the dairy. I like the diary. It's

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Speaker 9: focusing on the merchandise trade index, which is goods not services.

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Speaker 9: But the quarterly trend is improving, so let's focus on that,

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Speaker 10: Mike?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, back to the back to the reality of property.

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Speaker 3: We're seeing a little bit of life here, I think,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, very interesting. Putins and Mongolia. The only reason I'm

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Speaker 3: Mike caught up a blanks sheet of paper. That's the

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Speaker 3: lead morning to you, good one and Mike, So, I

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Speaker 17: All of the above. Really, the report covers sort of

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Speaker 17: I think the overall New Zealand economy is in a

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Speaker 3: Exactly appreciate the insight. Lee Marshall, who's the Hunter Campbell

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Speaker 3: Just to travel. Update from rest of the country can laugh. Auckland. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 3: what we're up against and this is why we're losing.

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Speaker 3: American demand for international trips has supported continued strength and

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Speaker 3: overall travel spending, so it's not like people aren't traveling.

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Speaker 3: Europe is the most popular destination. Asia, of which we

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Speaker 3: are part, of course, has seen the largest annual growth,

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Speaker 3: So they went to Asia that just didn't come here.

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Speaker 3: Travel spending among American households continues to outpace its pre

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Speaker 3: pandemic levels. There's a zeal their word, not mine for

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Speaker 3: international travel. A key part of travel momentum lies within

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Speaker 3: vacationing abroad. Spending is higher, much higher than twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 3: up ten point six percent per household. So what's our excuse?

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Speaker 18: Six forty five international correspondence with ends and eye insurance,

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Speaker 18: peace of mind for New Zealand business shod Arnold.

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Speaker 3: Morning to you. You may fresh after the label we

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Speaker 3: can ready to go.

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Speaker 16: You got some numbers for us, Yeah, I want to

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Speaker 16: look in some of the detail. Of course, Labor Day

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Speaker 16: over here is the holiday that signals the end of

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Speaker 16: the northern summer. This is the point where US presidential

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Speaker 16: campaigns typically reached the realm where they wind up on

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Speaker 16: election Day. Here's how Politico, the political website, puts it today.

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Speaker 16: This campaign is like a knife fight in a phone boost.

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Speaker 16: Didn't know we had phone booths anymore, but that's that's

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Speaker 16: the idea. It's a toss up. Kamala Harris didn't get

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Speaker 16: much of a post convention bounce, did she. Instead, the

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Speaker 16: Dems got a pre convention bounced because of Joe Biden's departure,

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Speaker 16: So that's different. But seven states have emerged as battlegrounds,

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Speaker 16: and Harris leeds in three Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, only by small,

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Speaker 16: small margins. In North Carolina, Trump is ahead, but again

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Speaker 16: by the smallest smallest margin one percent. We're talking In

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Speaker 16: the other three Arizona, Georgia, and Nevada. The numbers are

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Speaker 16: so close. Different poles give different results, So Kamala Harris

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Speaker 16: is saying it's going to be a.

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Speaker 6: Tight race to the very end, so let's not pay

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Speaker 6: too much attention to those polls.

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Speaker 16: Well, what can be said for Harris is that just

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Speaker 16: forty six percent percent have a favorable impression of her,

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Speaker 16: but for Trump the number is thirty three percent fifty

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Speaker 16: three percent. C Harris has qualified to be present compared

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Speaker 16: to forty seven for Trump. While the gender gap is

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Speaker 16: huge and growing, Kamala Harris leads among women by thirteen points,

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Speaker 16: which is up by six since the Democratic Convention. Trump

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Speaker 16: is up by five points in that period among men

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Speaker 16: fifty four to forty one percent. So again, women and

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Speaker 16: men completely different worlds politically, even more so this go round.

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Speaker 16: So in this week before the presidential debate, Harris and

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Speaker 16: Kowever setting out on what they're calling a reproductive rights

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Speaker 16: campaign to us since abortion is an issue where they

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Speaker 16: have a clear lead. They also plan to unveil more

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Speaker 16: details of the economic program in the coming days where

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Speaker 16: Trump leads. Of course, it was the abortion question that

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Speaker 16: hurt Republicans so much in twenty twenty two, wasn't it?

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Speaker 16: When there was all that talk about a red wave,

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Speaker 16: the likely Republican surge that didn't happen. So Trump has

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Speaker 16: been flip flopping on abortion. Of course, Trump rags about

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Speaker 16: naming the three Supreme Court justices who tipped a back

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Speaker 16: balance and allow the overturning of the abortion rights law

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Speaker 16: Roe v. Wade. Then he signaled support for a Florida

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Speaker 16: plan to allow abortions in his home state for at

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Speaker 16: least six weeks, a period in which many women, of

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Speaker 16: course don't even know if they are pregnant.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think the six week is too short.

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Speaker 19: This has to be more time. And so that's and

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Speaker 19: I've told them that I want more weeks, so.

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Speaker 6: You'll vote in favor of the amendment.

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Speaker 19: I'm voting that I am going to be voting that

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Speaker 19: we need more than six weeks.

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Speaker 16: So can you have it both ways? That led to

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Speaker 16: an anti abortion backlash against Trump, with Right to Life

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Speaker 16: as saying they could no longer trust Donald Trump, who

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Speaker 16: were then flip flopped again.

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Speaker 15: Are you voting yes or no on Amendment four in Florida?

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Speaker 19: So I think six weeks? You need more time than

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Speaker 19: six weeks. I've disagreed with that right from the early primaries.

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Speaker 19: When I heard about it, I has disagreed with it.

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Speaker 19: At the same time, the Democrats are radical because the

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Speaker 19: nine months is just a ridiculous situation where you can

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Speaker 19: do an abortion in the ninth month, and you know

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Speaker 19: some of the states like Minnesota and other states have

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Speaker 19: it where you could actually execute the after birth.

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Speaker 16: Well that's a lie. But in terms of allowing abortions,

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Speaker 16: what he would support abortion if there was more time,

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Speaker 16: but he wouldn't support it if there was less time.

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Speaker 16: So he's anti abortion, but could be pro abortioned if

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Speaker 16: there was an earlier ban or a later Who knows.

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Speaker 3: Right to simple matters? The Middle East? Where are we at?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, Biden. Harris has been meeting with the national security

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Speaker 16: folks today to consider laying out a final take it

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Speaker 16: or leave it plan to try to win release of

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Speaker 16: the Israeli hostages still held in Gaza and find a

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Speaker 16: cease fire. Of course, we've heard this story before many times,

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Speaker 16: have we not? This after the execution by Hamas of

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Speaker 16: those six hostages and the biggest anti Netanya who protest

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Speaker 16: we've seen in Israel just huge, Biden says Netta, who

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Speaker 16: is not doing enough to gain release of the hostages,

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Speaker 16: who include a number of Americans. Netnia, who has just

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Speaker 16: apologized to families of the hostages.

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Speaker 13: Told the families and I repeat and say this evening,

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Speaker 13: I'm asking for your forgiveness that we didn't they should

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Speaker 13: bring them back alive.

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Speaker 16: But he says there can still be no concession to

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Speaker 16: her master, especially on policing the Egyptian border zone. Those

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Speaker 16: Israeli protests.

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Speaker 1: Have been intense.

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Speaker 16: The mother of the Israeli American killed Rachel Gobert Pollen,

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Speaker 16: took part in her son's funeral services, saying, in part, finally, my.

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Speaker 13: Sweet boy, finally, finally, finally, finally is free.

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Speaker 11: I will love you and I will miss you every

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Speaker 11: single day for the rest of.

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Speaker 16: My life, while Hannah Siegel, whose Israeli American uncle still

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Speaker 16: is being held, says.

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Speaker 20: This there has been a deal on the table that

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Speaker 20: Natanyahu has refused to take for months now, and we

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Speaker 20: are devastated and scared.

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Speaker 3: So this is just excruciating. Yes, it is all right, Richard,

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Speaker 3: see you on Friday. Appreciate it very much more before

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Speaker 3: we leave America in a moment, more in flight data

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Speaker 3: on the safety give trouble for you this morning. You'll

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Speaker 3: be interested in ten away from seven.

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Speaker 2: My hosting racers with the Jaguar f Base News dog ZB.

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Speaker 3: Has been Your travel seems to be a thing this

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Speaker 3: morning as a result of boeing in there many in

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Speaker 3: varied problems. MIT have done some research, which is interesting.

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Speaker 3: One in five of us twenty percent, in other words,

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Speaker 3: are doing more research into the plane we could be

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Speaker 3: flying on, So that's interesting. The fifty five percent of

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Speaker 3: travelers say they've changed the way their book flights because

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Speaker 3: of recent news by the aircraft and airlines. Thirteen percent

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Speaker 3: are avoiding discount carriers to feel more secure, not that

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Speaker 3: that has anything to do with anything the planes the problem,

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Speaker 3: not the carrier. Journal of Air Transport Management has published

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Speaker 3: all of this. Risk of dying on a commercial flight

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Speaker 3: globally was one per thirteen point seven million passenger boardings,

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Speaker 3: one per thirteen point seven Has that changed, My God

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Speaker 3: has changed. By the way, this all applies to Tier

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Speaker 3: one countries. Tier one countries of the US, the European Union,

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Speaker 3: other parts of Europe, Australia, Canada, China, Israel, Japan and

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Speaker 3: New Zealand. We're in Tier one. You want to go

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Speaker 3: Tier two Bosnia, Brazil, Brunei, Hong Kong, I find interesting India, Jordan,

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Speaker 3: et cetera. So anyway, tier one is what it applies to.

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Speaker 3: So one per thirteen point seven million, if you go

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Speaker 3: back to the early two thousands, is at one point

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Speaker 3: seven nine million, so it was materially more risky. If

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Speaker 3: you want to go back to say the seventies, it

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Speaker 3: was one per seven hundred and fifty thousand. So it

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Speaker 3: has got increasingly safer to travel on an airline. But

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Speaker 3: that's the old business of reality versus theory, or theory

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Speaker 3: versus reality. Five away from seven.

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Speaker 1: B the ins and the outs.

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Speaker 2: It's the bizz with business fiber take your business productivity

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Speaker 2: to the next level.

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Speaker 3: RAN's brought back on the ground bit a car talk

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Speaker 3: for you. Lift in sales for new car sales last month,

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Speaker 3: good good, good, She's been a rough old time the

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Speaker 3: rental market those driving it no pun intended. Overall sales

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Speaker 3: were up two point one percent seventy one percent increase

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Speaker 3: in those rental The rental cars are back, which which

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Speaker 3: ironically ties them with tourism. You don't buy rental cars,

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Speaker 3: no going to get rented, which is the highest month

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Speaker 3: so far this year. Light passenger vehicles cars, SUV's four

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Speaker 3: wheel drives, all that stuff down three percent on August

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Speaker 3: last year, thirty eight percent down on August of twenty two,

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Speaker 3: So it chose you how bad it got twenty six

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Speaker 3: percent down yet a date compared with last year. So

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Speaker 3: this has been the really ugly year. Bebs and Pea

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Speaker 3: Heabs hardly sold any five hundred and seventy five Bebs,

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Speaker 3: two hundred thirty one pa heabs. Top ten selling cars.

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Speaker 3: How many Bebs and Pea Hibs in there? None? Number ten.

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Speaker 3: We'll do ten through one because one through tenth boring

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Speaker 3: because you already know who's won number ten. Fort Everest.

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Speaker 3: This and the Bar is nine, Zuzuki Swept is eight,

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Speaker 3: The Kia Celtos is seven. The Outlander look at the Stelters,

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Speaker 3: don't you do you?

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Speaker 10: I'm considering that to replace my I twenty.

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Speaker 3: Let us know how you go on it, Mitsubishi Outlander six,

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Speaker 3: the ASX, The Mitsubishi is fi, The Triton is four.

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Speaker 3: The High Lucks the Mighty High Lucks is three. In

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Speaker 3: the story and I haven't got it here and story

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Speaker 3: read yesterday, there was a guy who thought that seventy

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Speaker 3: six thousand dollars for a brand new Mini was too much.

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Speaker 3: He wanted a many an electric Mini. Seventy six thousand

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Speaker 3: dollars too much. They did a deal to him forty

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Speaker 3: three grand. That's what the story says. Seventy six down

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Speaker 3: to forty three not bad. At forty three grand, I'm

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Speaker 3: thinking of going there.

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Speaker 14: Well, electricsh where was an historic day list?

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Speaker 3: No, no, I haven't gone there yet. Toyota rav four

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Speaker 3: at number two, and the mighty Ford Ranger is the

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Speaker 3: number one selling vehicle in the country. But seventy six

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Speaker 3: down to forty two. Come on news for you in

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Speaker 3: a couple of moments. Then we'll talk about this hundred

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Speaker 3: dollars in whether it stops a tourist coming to the country.

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Speaker 2: The newsmakers and the personalities of the big names. Talk

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Speaker 2: to Mike Costing Breakfast with Vida, Retirement Communities, Life Your

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Speaker 2: Way News togs.

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Speaker 3: D B seven past seven. So the price of coming

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Speaker 3: to the country as a tourist is going up, that

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Speaker 3: the visitor levy goes from thirty five to one hundred bucks,

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Speaker 3: and so the great debate begins. New Zealand deport Association

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Speaker 3: CEO Billy Moore's, Well, there's Billy morning to you, Good morning.

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Speaker 3: The minister argues, everybody submitted wanted it.

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Speaker 17: Did you submit absolutely, we did, yes.

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Speaker 3: And did you ask for an increase?

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Speaker 20: No?

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Speaker 21: Absolutely, night. So the airports and airlines are pretty united

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Speaker 21: on this where we asked for it to remain remain

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Speaker 21: at thirty five dollars, particularly in light of all of

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Speaker 21: the other cost increases that are coming through on the

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Speaker 21: border that actually pay for functions like border processing, secretly

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Speaker 21: VSE things like that. So we didn't see any case

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Speaker 21: for bumping this up, particularly when what it's actually used

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Speaker 21: for is not even defined in the consultation.

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Speaker 3: Most people did say they wanted an increase. The problem

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Speaker 3: appears to be many of the people who wanted an increase,

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Speaker 3: how about fifty bucks not one hundred, and the hundred

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Speaker 3: is the one that's killed it. Does that fair? Is

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Speaker 3: in your estimation?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 21: It is? It is fair. They're right there in the

658
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Speaker 21: submissions process that you know a lot of individuals submitted

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Speaker 21: wanting a visitors to pay more. I think ultimately we

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Speaker 21: have a bit of an attitude problem about tourists which

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Speaker 21: has permeated government agencies thinking as well over the years,

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Speaker 21: where they're very much focused on how to get visitors

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Speaker 21: to pay more more at the border and into the crown,

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Speaker 21: rather than getting visitors to pay more into the economy,

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Speaker 21: which would better contribute to businesses and jobs around the region.

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Speaker 3: Well, listening to Ducie yesterday, there's one hundred and something

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Speaker 3: million going into the regions and they're the national parks

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Speaker 3: and the facilities that the tourists use. That's good, isn't it.

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Speaker 21: Look any money that goes into the regions is good.

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Speaker 21: The problem is that this International Visitor Vy hasn't been

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Speaker 21: used where it's meant to have been used since twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 21: so no money has ever made its way to local

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Speaker 21: government from this fund, and that's what it was expected

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Speaker 21: to be used for it, So address the visitor preators

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Speaker 21: in those locations.

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Speaker 3: Thinks that bit, would you be more on board?

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Speaker 21: Look, maybe under previous circumstances we'd be more open to that,

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Speaker 21: but under the current circumstances where visas have already gone

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Speaker 21: up so much, where it's now costing visitors double even

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Speaker 21: last year to cross the border and it's seventy percent

681
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Speaker 21: more extensive than Australia. So our problem is that while

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Speaker 21: there might be some good intentions by some of this stuff.

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Speaker 21: Ultimately we could lose out on the GST spend and

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Speaker 21: the visitor spend that we actually want in the economy,

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Speaker 21: rather than at being scooped up at the border for

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Speaker 21: these Crown funds.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate your inside. There was always Billy Moore, who's

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Speaker 3: the New Zealand Airport's Association chief executive. Moment it is

689
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Speaker 3: past seven, so the idea of a levy increase, isn't you.

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Speaker 3: In fact, in twenty twenty two, when Stuart Nash was

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Speaker 3: in charge of tourism, he argued to increase the levy

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Speaker 3: to as much as two hundred dollars and he's with us.

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Speaker 3: Very good morning to you very well. Indeed, when you're

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Speaker 3: discussing the stuff around the cabinet table, how much cold

695
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Speaker 3: hard data is there on this If you increase it,

696
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Speaker 3: they won't come things? Or are we just making it

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Speaker 3: up as we go along.

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Speaker 6: There's a lot of data. But first of all, let

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Speaker 6: me just clarify something. You will last what's your own

700
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Speaker 6: belief anymore? Yeah, there's a hell of a lot of

701
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Speaker 6: this money that has gone into local government. Now, keeping

702
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Speaker 6: in mind, make you just said the Prime Minister give

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Speaker 6: local government to serve as they stopped spending money on

704
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Speaker 6: basic projects. When I was Minister for Tourism, a hell

705
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Speaker 6: of a lot of this money went to the data

706
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Speaker 6: infrastructure that tourists expect and let's in fact, pilots and

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Speaker 6: car parks and free and tempt and such and all

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Speaker 6: that sort of eras. So to say that this money

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Speaker 6: doesn't go back into tourism infrastructure, it's just bullshit.

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Speaker 3: Right. So having said that, why couldn't you get it

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Speaker 3: to two hundred dollars?

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Speaker 6: Well it was Avig debating around the Capet table. Mike,

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Speaker 6: can you know I'm not allowed to divulge what happening.

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Speaker 3: Around the Captet table, even though.

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Speaker 6: Look there was a point in time where where there

716
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Speaker 6: really was it was fifty fifty. The thing is, when

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Speaker 6: where tourists come to New Zealand, they have an expectation of.

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Speaker 17: What they're going to see.

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Speaker 6: Right, So for people to say tourists aren't going to

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Speaker 6: companyw zield because are going to pay an extra hundred

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Speaker 6: dollars which is about sixty five uisuls, which is the

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Speaker 6: price of a well very good the bottle of Craigie

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Speaker 6: range by the way, still waiting that does to.

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Speaker 3: Be delivered at that a side.

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Speaker 6: People who are coming over from the States are coming

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Speaker 6: over from europe An extra sixty five dollars on a

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Speaker 6: two three four thousand dollars ticket makes no different to

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Speaker 6: what we've got to do, Mike, is actually have the

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Speaker 6: infrastructure in place that meets the expectations of not exceed

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Speaker 6: the expectations of people who are coming over here.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I would team to agree with you in theory.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you, But then I get Grant Webster

733
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Speaker 3: from Tourism Holdings On and he's in touch with it.

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Speaker 3: He says it is a physical, tangible barrier and we're

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Speaker 3: not that attractive. And the last thing you do is

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Speaker 3: he costs on.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well if we're not. First of all, you say

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Speaker 6: that's fund there's purely there's one hundred percent hypothecaid and

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Speaker 6: very transparent. What that means is all the money into

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Speaker 6: tourism infrastructure or into managing the Docker state. And keeping

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Speaker 6: in mind it costs about ninety five million dollars for

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Speaker 6: doctor to manage the estate to keep it up to

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Speaker 6: a script to level where international tourists expect it to be.

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Speaker 6: The other thing is when I hear people say, oh,

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Speaker 6: we're no longer attractive. If you think the difference between

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Speaker 6: sixty five yuis dollars is going to make, is the

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Speaker 6: difference between coming here or coming to another country your

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Speaker 6: bloody dreaming. Well, one thing I would change with this

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Speaker 6: feed is I would give some of it to Tourism

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Speaker 6: Museum to ensure that they have the money to go

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Speaker 6: out there their best forward in the international markets, because

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Speaker 6: there are a number of other countries that spend a

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Speaker 6: lot more. But what we need to do is ensure

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Speaker 6: that the money is well spent, delivers on the infrastructure,

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Speaker 6: delivers on the Docker state and managing that and creating

756
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Speaker 6: an awesome experience. So keep in mind like this, many

757
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Speaker 6: can't kill it to pay for CAx caps or into

758
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Speaker 6: the big black hole that is health Orth. It has

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Speaker 6: to be spent on tourism infrastructure and it has to

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Speaker 6: be spent on the Docker state.

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Speaker 3: I want to get on you, nice to talk. You

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Speaker 3: appreciate it very much, Jude Tourism, former Tourism minister, thirteen

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Speaker 3: minutes past seven. Ask it's a pretty good news. I

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Speaker 3: don't know why more of this isn't covered, given what's

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Speaker 3: happened in the last couple of weeks. The water levels

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Speaker 3: at Meridian southern hydro lakes that are improving by the day.

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Speaker 3: It's rained, it's snowed in the past fortnight. Poo Khaki

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Speaker 3: has increased way over a meter since its lowest point

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Speaker 3: just under two weeks ago. There's a further three to

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Speaker 3: four hundred mills of rain coming in the next couple

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Speaker 3: of weeks. So Manipuri is right Tiarnal's right there on

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Speaker 3: the high range. Now strong generation out of Manipuri, so

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Speaker 3: that's good snow storage in the Wayataki catchment that's increased significantly.

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Speaker 3: Lake storage was at fifty percents now at eighty three,

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Speaker 3: so that's a material difference. The wind farms it's been

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Speaker 3: blowing as well, all six regularly generating at near their maximum.

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Speaker 3: So it might well be that the spot price debarkle

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Speaker 3: all of the problems we faced in the last couple

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Speaker 3: of weeks, at least for now. Doesn't solve the big

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Speaker 3: picture problem, but at least for now, the here and

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Speaker 3: now problem has been solved.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, that plan work brilliantly, didn't that y, So all.

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Speaker 3: We had to do was make it rain, and it rained,

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Speaker 3: And so I don't know what the argument was about.

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Speaker 4: So worried.

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Speaker 3: Fourteen past seven The.

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Speaker 2: High Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Howard By

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Speaker 2: News talks at be.

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Speaker 3: There's this point before COVID, our country was overrun with

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Speaker 3: tourists and our guess we're complaining the levy will help

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Speaker 3: bring in high spending tourists. COVID could give us a

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Speaker 3: chance to regroup. There is that aspect about it. Of course,

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Speaker 3: you do remember last time we moaned endlessly about all

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Speaker 3: the people three and a half million people a year,

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Speaker 3: and we couldn't handle it, and the car parks were falling,

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Speaker 3: the toilets didn't work and all that stuff. Seventeen past seven,

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Speaker 3: christ Church, speaking of events, has been looking into the

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Speaker 3: possibility of hosting the Commonwealth Games. Turns out doesn't look

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Speaker 3: like they're going to be able to do it. Christchurch

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Speaker 3: New Zealand's general manager of Destination and Attraction, Lauren Aberhart,

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Speaker 3: is with us. Lauren, very good morning to.

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Speaker 22: You, morning Matte.

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Speaker 3: While we're on this tourism think you had a view

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Speaker 3: on one hundred dollars? Is that a problem or not?

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Speaker 16: Oh?

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Speaker 22: Look, we don't want to dispel visitors, but traveling long

807
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Speaker 22: haul is obviously a high cost anyway, and I think

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Speaker 22: getting some funding out of those visitors is a good thing.

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Speaker 22: We just want to know what that funding will be

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Speaker 22: spent on and for what we're not clear on some central.

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Speaker 3: Government right This report int the Commonwealth Games. Basically it

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Speaker 3: says could be done, but probably more nationally than locally.

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Speaker 3: Is that fair?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 17: Absolutely?

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Speaker 3: And so what's wrong with christ Church slash the region?

817
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Speaker 3: Is its facilities? Is it hotels?

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Speaker 5: What is it?

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Speaker 22: I think there's a little bit of constraints from accommodation

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Speaker 22: and transport, but also it is quite cost prohibitive. Would

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Speaker 22: need to be investing in significant additional sporting infrastructure that

822
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Speaker 22: we don't necessarily need long term, and so a national

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Speaker 22: bid makes a lot more sense. The legacy artcomes can

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Speaker 22: be spread across the country. We're quite a small country

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Speaker 22: and the scheme of things, so it's just better to

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Speaker 22: spread that benefit and that cost across New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: Would you have before the report have said that in

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Speaker 3: your gut when the mayor got all excited, that was.

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Speaker 22: Our likely feeling. That we had a fantastic conversation where

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Speaker 22: we said, well, let's look at it and then see

831
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Speaker 22: what else we might be able to do with a

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Speaker 22: similar size and scale that is perhaps more fit for

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Speaker 22: purpose for the city. So it was a great opportunity

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Speaker 22: to do that.

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Speaker 3: So that's one of the themes. Do the smallert stuff,

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Speaker 3: and in doing the smaller stuff you build a foundation

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Speaker 3: over time for the biggert stuff. Is that what we're

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Speaker 3: learning here?

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Speaker 22: Absolutely, So we're looking to build up a pathway of

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Speaker 22: international and national sporting events that will eventually put us

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Speaker 22: on the world stage and be able to host things

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Speaker 22: like the Commonwealth Games as we become more mature and

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Speaker 22: build both our population and our infrastructure.

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Speaker 3: And does it matter because the comm Games, I'd tell you,

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Speaker 3: is sort of dying a death at the moment. Does

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Speaker 3: it matter to a city whether it's got a sort

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Speaker 3: of a buzz or a fizz to it, or is

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Speaker 3: it just the fact if you can get an event

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Speaker 3: with people, officials and athletes, that's your calling card as

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Speaker 3: opposed to whether anyone's interested outside of that.

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Speaker 22: No, I think there's multiple benefits that include more participation

852
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Speaker 22: in sport, broadcast, showcasing your destination.

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Speaker 17: And things like the Commonwealth Games do do that.

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Speaker 22: What we want to do, though, is make sure that

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Speaker 22: anything that we're investing in is long term and sustainable,

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Speaker 22: and that was really where we landed with the Comonwealth Games.

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Speaker 22: We're reviewing the sustainability of their delivery model at the moment,

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Speaker 22: and so it's not really a good time for us

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Speaker 22: to be considering an old model of the Commonwealth Games

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Speaker 22: when they may have a completely new model.

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Speaker 11: In the future.

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Speaker 3: Fantastic, Laura appreciate the insight. Lauren Alberhart, general manager of

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Speaker 3: Destination and Attraction for christ Bitch, New Zealand, the head

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Speaker 3: of the SIS yesterday. I don't know whether they got

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Speaker 3: this out of Australia. They've done it for the last

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Speaker 3: couple of years, but the Bloker runs Aco and Australia

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Speaker 3: seems to be very sort of open and public about

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Speaker 3: all the threats running around the place. And that debate

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Speaker 3: took another twist yesterday the so called gars of Visa

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Speaker 3: and I'll have Steve on that after Rake thirty. But

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Speaker 3: we now get some sort of insight from the SIS

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Speaker 3: as to who's going to come at us with knives

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Speaker 3: and bombs and stuff like that. So we got that

874
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Speaker 3: report yesterday, so we'll get Paul Buchanan, who's our security man,

875
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Speaker 3: after seven o'clock seven twenty.

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Speaker 2: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, How

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Speaker 3: Zb right good News. Wait over, finally here comes where

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Speaker 3: House Spring Frenzy sale. That's on that up to half

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Speaker 3: and cosmetics. Chemist's Warehouse are their home to the biggest

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Speaker 3: range of Go Healthy and Clinicians vitamins. Of course now

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Speaker 3: You guessed it up to half price. And don't forget

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Speaker 3: cosmetics W seven, Lorri l Maybolene, Oh Maybolene, Revlon Cosmetics

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00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 3: all up to half price. And now's the perfect time

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00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 3: to stock up on those vitamins and cosmetics and to

892
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,399
Speaker 3: make the most of the incredible Chemist Warehouse Spring Frenzy sale.

893
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 3: But you gotta hurry. It ends twenty five September. You

894
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 3: can head and store, you can do it online, but

895
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 3: either way you stop paying too much. Chemist warehouse Husking, Mike,

896
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 3: why would you take a sporting event to christ jug

897
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 3: Remember the yachting not a bad point. What time can

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00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 3: I tell you seven twenty four and that one's actually accurate.

899
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 3: So we're doing well this morning. I can imagine I've

900
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 3: been thinking a bit about old Lester lately, Lester Levy, right,

901
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 3: I can't imagine how hard his job is, this new

902
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 3: health commissioner. So health goes through cycles, right, Sometimes it

903
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 3: gets a head of steam, makes news every second day.

904
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 3: Sometimes it vanishes from the headlines. Doesn't mean stuff isn't broken,

905
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 3: It just means it's not headlines right now. Of course

906
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 3: it is headlines and as headlines actually, I think because

907
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 3: things are broken. When you argue about toast as we

908
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 3: have been, it's more than broken. It's now got pathetic.

909
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 3: I went through the paper clip argument when I worked

910
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 3: for Radio New Zealand. Back when Radio New Zealand was

911
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 3: commercial and noncommercial, all owned by the government. The place

912
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 3: was a mess. This was the late eighties. They initiated

913
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 3: Operation Aurora to cut costs and paper clips and staplers

914
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 3: were one of the targets. And when it gets to

915
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 3: that point, you know the place basically is stuffed. They

916
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 3: eventually sold the commercial side of the operation off and

917
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 3: we've never looked back. Health might may well be in

918
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Speaker 3: the same boat. Not that they can sell it off,

919
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 3: of course, but how bad does it have to get

920
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 3: before large numbers of people basically give up, and, no

921
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 3: matter what cost, into the private sector by way of insurance.

922
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 3: I am told by those who know in an emergency,

923
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 3: public health here is still great. It still saves your life.

924
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 3: It's the elective stuff that's broken. And it's broken as

925
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 3: all things are broken because of many, many, many smaller things.

926
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 3: Lack of GP access, poor health, poor choices, lifestyle, lack

927
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 3: of private coverage. All that. You have overworked and underappreciated

928
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,240
Speaker 3: nurses and doctors. You have gaps where nurses and doctors

929
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 3: should be but aren't. Here's what I know from Aurora.

930
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 3: Never ask the inmates what to do because they suggest

931
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 3: paper clips and stapless They never recommended blowing the place up,

932
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,760
Speaker 3: which in our case was exactly what was needed. TOAST

933
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 3: is not Health's problem or its answer. Thirty billion dollars

934
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 3: is what we spend, and I agree with the Prime

935
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Speaker 3: Minister it should be more than enough. If you've decided

936
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 3: toast might help you. You're either an idiot or you're

937
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 3: looking in the wrong place, asking Mike. I own a

938
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Speaker 3: couple of travel agencies, one outbound, one luxury inbound. New

939
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 3: Zealand's already one of the most expensive countries for airport

940
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 3: taxes at two hundred and eighty five minimum for international visitors,

941
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 3: plus visitors have to pay the gist with no option

942
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 3: of a refund. We've got the highest inbound airfs for

943
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 3: the likes of the US and Europe, and cruise ships

944
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 3: of ditching New Zealand due to expensive port charges, lack

945
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 3: of infrastructure an owners whole cleaning requirements. So adding another

946
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 3: hundred bucks does not sound like much, but the tourism

947
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 3: sector's broken and being degraded. The one hundred dollars levee

948
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 3: makes no sense and we'll only add another reason for

949
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Speaker 3: why New Zealand's expensive and for travelers to skip and

950
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 3: head to Australia instead. Jared, well done, Thank you for that,

951
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 3: and I wish you the best with you with your businesses. Ma'am.

952
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 3: Can I ask this very simple question when I read

953
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,959
Speaker 3: the headline consultation has opened on a proposed one hundred

954
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 3: and ten kilometer speed limit for Auckland's northern gateway. This

955
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 3: is the Pouhoy to walkworth Row. This is the one

956
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,280
Speaker 3: I know like the back of my hand. It's basically

957
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 3: a world class road. It's a couple of lanes in

958
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 3: each direction. It's separated by a median barrier. You will

959
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 3: not get a more beautiful road in the country. What

960
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 3: are we consulting about? What possible reason is there to

961
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 3: consult whether to go one hundred and ten? First of all,

962
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 3: everyone's going one hundred and ten anyway, so let's make

963
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 3: it one hundred and thirty hundred. Let's make it like

964
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 3: the auto barns in Germany and just go for broke

965
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 3: and all the slow people get out of the way

966
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Speaker 3: on the right hand lane and you go on the

967
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Speaker 3: left hand lane, and we always through anyway. Be that

968
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 3: as it may. What's to consult? What is it you

969
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 3: need to know? What is it we haven't talked about

970
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 3: before on new roads? What do we need to relitigate

971
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 3: yet again? To just make a basic decision that doesn't

972
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 3: require consultation, And that, in a nutshell, is part of

973
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 3: what's wrong with this country.

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Speaker 2: The Breakfast Show You can trust, The Mic Hosking Breakfast

975
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 2: with the Jaguar fpace cut from a different clath News talk.

976
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Speaker 3: Sa'd be Mike who didn't isolate the power when doing

977
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 3: the work on the railway electrics and Parnell. It's not

978
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 3: a bad question, Rosie. It's got a certain vibe about

979
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 3: it and I'm sure it will come out in the

980
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Speaker 3: full fullness of time. Mike, I'm on board with the

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Speaker 3: Livy increase, another grown up decision by a refreshingly grown

982
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 3: up government. New Zealand needs to raise funding for all

983
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 3: sorts of things. We can't just keep tapping an already

984
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 3: exhausted cash pull. I e us Mike. One hundred dollars

985
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 3: won't put off a tourists. We want those that spend

986
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 3: the money. Just got back from Europe spent over two

987
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 3: hundred euros in road tolls. That doesn't stop people going

988
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 3: to attractive countries, Mike. Why is Health New Zealand offering

989
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 3: all staff redundancies when they already have a staff shortage.

990
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 3: It's doctors and nurses that they're not offering redundancies too.

991
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 3: It's the back room versus the front room. Health New

992
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 3: Zealand has a tremendous number of people who have nothing

993
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 3: to do with scalpels and bandages. Twenty three minutes away

994
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Speaker 3: from eight Politics Wednesday after eight being the Wednesday, of course,

995
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Speaker 3: Mike Mitchell Jinny andsen to the business. Meantime, we have

996
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 3: our annual insight into the security threats we currently place

997
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 3: as a country. Sis tell us to scruntle government employees,

998
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 3: all those in desperate need of extra cash are a

999
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 3: key concern. Apparently, foreign interferences there of course, our position

1000
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Speaker 3: in the Pacific, and other lone wolf terror attack they're

1001
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 3: also listed Formulus Government Intelligent Consultant. Paul buchanans back with us. Paul,

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00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 3: very good morning to you.

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Speaker 15: Good morning, Mike, nice to be here.

1004
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 3: Thank you. From what was said yesterday, do you get

1005
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 3: a sense that we are in more or less trouble

1006
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 3: or it's the status quo, or we don't know.

1007
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 15: No, Actually, we're getting drawn in to great power conflicts.

1008
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 15: And although I've beaten this horse many times before, we

1009
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 15: no longer live in a strategic, strategically benign environment. Dorothy.

1010
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 15: We're right in the center of major geopolitical competition in

1011
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 15: the Southwest Pacific, but we also have domestic issues and

1012
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,439
Speaker 15: the bottom line, and the SIS says this By the way,

1013
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:27,760
Speaker 15: this report is a great step forward when it comes

1014
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 15: to transparency of the sis. It is clear, it's concise,

1015
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 15: it's fairly comprehensive. It basically gives us a read of

1016
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 15: how they look at the world and how they assess threats.

1017
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 15: So I would urge it's a public document, it's free.

1018
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 15: I would urge your listeners to read it because it's

1019
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 15: very readable and it's only about forty pages total. Now,

1020
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 15: having said that, we live in a globalized world, the

1021
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 15: threats don't have to be physical. The threats can come online.

1022
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 15: They have, and so our domestic threats have what you

1023
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 15: might call intermestic connections. They're international, but they're also domestic.

1024
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 15: And the Sis makes that point when it comes to

1025
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 15: violent extremism, that their assessment is that the most likely

1026
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 15: case of terrorism will be a white supremacist lone wolf.

1027
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,760
Speaker 15: I happen to disagree with their assessment of the lone wolf,

1028
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 15: but we can leave that aside for the moment. But

1029
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Speaker 15: radicalized online but from sources from abroad. And then the

1030
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 15: second threat are Islamicists. So you know, we're not sitting

1031
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 15: out in the middle ocean, you know, insulated from the

1032
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 15: world's you know, terrible events, and they make that point,

1033
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 15: but let's be very clear. They prioritize the threats, and

1034
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Speaker 15: the threats are in order of priority, foreign interference, espionage,

1035
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Speaker 15: insider threat, which is an entirely new category, and violent extremism,

1036
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Speaker 15: and terrorism. So we focus on violent extremism and terrorism,

1037
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Speaker 15: but that's the least of their worries. They're mostly concerned

1038
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Speaker 15: about pernicious foreign influence in everything we do, and then

1039
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Speaker 15: go on to talk about, you know, espionage and this

1040
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 15: new category of insider threat, which are basically people in

1041
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 15: positions of trust, both in the public as well as

1042
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 15: the private sectors who willingly or unwillingly collude with hotstile

1043
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 15: foreign actors in order to obtain and disseminate sensitive information.

1044
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 3: The interference is that Chinese lead.

1045
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Speaker 15: Well, that's it's great that you mentioned the Chinese, because

1046
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 15: also this document is incredibly blunt. It mentions the PRC

1047
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 15: by name, It mentions the Russians by name, and says

1048
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Speaker 15: what they are trying to do. It actually offers case studies.

1049
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 15: I would call them anecdotes, because these are not full

1050
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Speaker 15: case studies, but anecdotals, short stories about how the PRC

1051
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Speaker 15: as well as the Russians have tried to infiltrate community groups,

1052
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Speaker 15: Chinese language media. In the case of the PRC and

1053
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Speaker 15: a host of things, the section of foreign interference is

1054
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Speaker 15: twelve pages long. All the other sections are three pages,

1055
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Speaker 15: so they're really focused in. But let's be very clear,

1056
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Speaker 15: it's not just in the excuse me, not just the

1057
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Speaker 15: Chinese and the Russians. There are indirect allusions to what

1058
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Speaker 15: is clearly India. There are indirect allusions to other countries

1059
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Speaker 15: because it's not just hostile states that may want sensitive

1060
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Speaker 15: information from New Zealand. Even our allies do it and

1061
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Speaker 15: we do it to them, you know, via five eyes

1062
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Speaker 15: and whatnot. So it's not as if you know, we

1063
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Speaker 15: wear white gloves and you know only Chinese and Russians

1064
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 15: wear black gloves. But yes, I sees them as black

1065
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:08,280
Speaker 15: clubs actors and they talk about it. This will broadly

1066
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Speaker 15: rile the diplomats and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs because

1067
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Speaker 15: they're not being sensitive when it comes to their language.

1068
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Speaker 15: But good honorm forgiven an honorous assessment, who's trying to

1069
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 15: meddle with us?

1070
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Speaker 3: And thank you for your assessment as well. Appreciated as always,

1071
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Speaker 3: paul I Vuchannan form a US government intelligence consultant, and

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Speaker 3: he's right. It is well worth read. Seventeen minutes away

1073
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Speaker 3: from eight asking two days ago, gave you some retirement

1074
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Speaker 3: village numbers and who's doing well, who the big six are,

1075
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Speaker 3: what's happening in the area, and stuff like that. The

1076
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Speaker 3: part that I didn't give you that I've gone through

1077
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Speaker 3: and read again and I thought, hang on, this is

1078
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Speaker 3: worth mentioning the current rate of development because this is

1079
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 3: a massive industry in this country and we all in

1080
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Speaker 3: some way, shape or form, whether we actually end up

1081
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Speaker 3: in a retirement home or not, it's up to us

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Speaker 3: individually generally, but we are heading in that direction. The

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Speaker 3: current rate of development. This is what is bullish about

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Speaker 3: the whole industry, the current rate of development falling short.

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Speaker 3: We need nine hundred and thirty two new units each

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Speaker 3: year for the next twenty five years for the industry

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Speaker 3: to meet demand by twenty forty eight. So that's not

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00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 3: just about the industry. The rate of growth in the

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00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:19,919
Speaker 3: seventy five plus age bracket was slowing apparently, but it's

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Speaker 3: increasing in absolute terms. One hundred and twelve thousand, six

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Speaker 3: hundred and twenty four people expected to want retirement accommodation

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Speaker 3: by twenty forty eight. The current number is fifty three thousand,

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Speaker 3: four hundred and forty four, so it's kind of fifty

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Speaker 3: three thousand, one hundred and twelve thousand. So we're living

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Speaker 3: longer and we may need the services. But what that

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Speaker 3: tells you, and that then goes into, of course, the

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Speaker 3: main reason I mention it. That then gets into the

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Speaker 3: business of retirement and the state paying for retirement and

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Speaker 3: how long they're paying for the retirement for and the

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Speaker 3: debate we've also been having this week as to whether

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Speaker 3: we can afford it. Sixteen to eight.

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Speaker 3: It'd be morning, Mike. Can you tell us where we

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00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,879
Speaker 3: can find the SIS Review. I go to sis dot

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Speaker 3: co dot im zep and there's a section there called

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00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:05,280
Speaker 3: our Reports.

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Speaker 10: I thought it might be something more secret.

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Speaker 3: They blew that they have numbers. Not there though the

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Speaker 3: phone numbers you can't contact them. One day, I'm going

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00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 3: to get around to telling you about my We started

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Speaker 3: at last Friday with the pool. Speaking of people you

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Speaker 3: can't contact, it's not about my poll. My poll's boring.

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00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 3: No one's interested in my poll. But the council process

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00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 3: that we've gone to and now completed is the most

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00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 3: astonishing story anyway, Mike. We just stayed in New York

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00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 3: Times Square, very nice. We paid thirty five dollars US

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00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 3: per night tourist tax. Exactly. There's a tourist tax, there's

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00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 3: a room tax, there's a hotel tax, there's a city tax.

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Speaker 3: You ever want to go pay a lot of tax,

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Speaker 3: go to America. And that's the cold heart truth of life.

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Speaker 3: It struck me yesterday. Not they didn't know it, but

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Speaker 3: it's one of those things when you look at the facts,

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00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 3: you're going, yep, I must remember that. So a report

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Speaker 3: out yesterday on the price of food, the price of

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Speaker 3: food going up exponentially is now it appears over and

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00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,040
Speaker 3: this is part of the overall story of inflation and

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Speaker 3: slowly but surely being brought under control in this country.

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Speaker 3: Brad Olsen, as always in prometrics, he's done. The overall

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Speaker 3: food prices eighteen percent higher in July this year than

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Speaker 3: they were in July of twenty twenty one. That's the

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Speaker 3: pain we've paid. That's the price we've paid. Fruit and

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Speaker 3: vegetable prices were seven point three percent higher. This is

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Speaker 3: over the last couple of years. This is so we

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Speaker 3: are at a point now we're broadly speaking, not in totality,

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Speaker 3: but broadly speaking, food is not going up anymore the

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Speaker 3: way it's used to. It's going up a bit. Some

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Speaker 3: places is going down. But here's where we've paid the price.

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Speaker 3: Fruit and vegetables overall's gone up seven point three percent, meat,

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Speaker 3: poultry and fish sixteen percent, grocery food twenty two percent,

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Speaker 3: non alcoholic drinks nineteen ready to eat meals twenty one,

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Speaker 3: milk eight yogurt thirty three, oils and fats forty two percent,

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Speaker 3: whereas broccoli is down forty seven percent, let us down

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Speaker 3: thirty eight percent, coliflowered down twenty nine percent households. And

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Speaker 3: this is the critical part. Although the increases are stopping,

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Speaker 3: they are stopped at a higher price. We are paying

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Speaker 3: more now than we ever have and it's never really

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Speaker 3: going to overall go down. It's the classic thing. Once

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Speaker 3: something goes from being a dollar to two dollars, it

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Speaker 3: never goes back to being a dollar. That's like tax.

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Speaker 3: Once they introduce a tax is never going to drop.

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Speaker 3: It's always going to continue to go up. They might

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00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 3: hold it, but it will never drop. So households are

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Speaker 3: spending more of their money and food. This year, we're

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Speaker 3: spending nearly three hundred dollars a week on food on average,

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Speaker 3: whereas in twenty nineteen pre COVID, it was two twenty five.

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Speaker 3: So each and every one of us, on average, is

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Speaker 3: spending seventy five dollars a week more. Do the numbers.

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Speaker 3: That's three hundred dollars, about five thousand dollars a year more.

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Speaker 10: Maybe just lay off the yogurt a bit on for.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yoge it out and you're right, Buy some more

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Speaker 3: broccoli less yoga. Your home free, aren't you? So the

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Speaker 3: way Mike sees it. Ten away from eight cost.

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Speaker 1: Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate news Talks.

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00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 3: Mike get going to come and see me about the

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Speaker 3: new Celtos on the Celtos sales, King Peter and the

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Speaker 3: Waikato There you go, feeders, you mean? Six and seven

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00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 3: away from eight local AI firms caught the attention of

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Speaker 3: college football. This is American Football and Atlanta designers from

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Speaker 3: Hypercinema turning the Hall of Fame into an immersive museum experience.

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Speaker 3: The technology developed in this country could soon be used

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Speaker 3: in museums and entertainment spaces across the globe. Now, Hypersinema

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Speaker 3: CEO Miles Gregory's with us on this. Miles, very good

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Speaker 3: morning to you.

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Speaker 11: Oh good morning, good morning.

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Speaker 17: Pleasure to be with you.

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Speaker 3: Are you doing something with AI that others aren't, therefore

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Speaker 3: it makes you unique?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think we are where. Hypercinema is the world's

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Speaker 11: first immersive, live AI experience platform. It was developed here

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Speaker 11: in New Zealand, born out of glad Eye, the New

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Speaker 11: Zealand Digital Agency. Worked with Microsoft New Zealand for two

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Speaker 11: years now and we just launched in America.

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Speaker 17: We're really excited.

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Speaker 3: So you go in to the Hall of Fame and

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Speaker 3: what happens to.

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Speaker 11: Me right you go in. It's a really simple process.

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Speaker 11: We scan you, we ask you some simple questions about

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Speaker 11: your personality, favorite football, food, playful questions. Then in our

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Speaker 11: hyper engine, your experience is created using the power of AI.

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Speaker 11: And what that experience is is you're given an RFID

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Speaker 11: token like a lanyard's a badge on.

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Speaker 17: You walk around the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 11: And as you go around, you're invited to tap on

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Speaker 11: to these readers and you are literally put into the

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Speaker 11: stories of college football. They range from video through to

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Speaker 11: incredible still imagery. You've become a cheerleader, the best coach

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Speaker 11: that never was. It's a playful, fun social experience and

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Speaker 11: it outputs a whole heap of great images of you

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Speaker 11: as the stuff.

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Speaker 3: And when you say images of me, are they are

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00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 3: they super cool images? Or are they are you look

1203
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,479
Speaker 3: like Uncle Ben inserted the photo when the family because

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00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 3: I wasn't there when we took the snap the first

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Speaker 3: time round.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, this isn't photoshop. It's not bad photoshop. What we

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00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 11: do is create an AI model of your face, your likeness,

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Speaker 11: and then we generate entirely new imagery starring you the back.

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Speaker 11: It's really complicated. It's a very complex engine that took

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Speaker 11: two years to build. It's patented, but in front for

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Speaker 11: you, you just have a lot of fun and see yourself

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Speaker 11: in the stories of college football.

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Speaker 3: And how mellieable is it to a different style of

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Speaker 3: experience depending on who you would work with in the future.

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Speaker 3: You know, football to cars, to museums to whatever.

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Speaker 11: Well, it is entirely malleable. If you can dream it,

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00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 11: we can create it. This is an incredible new way to

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00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 11: take museums, visitor attractions theme parts to a whole new level.

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00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 11: It is extraordinary tech and it's really fun. People laugh

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Speaker 11: out loud. It's very social. Groups talk to each other.

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Speaker 11: It adds a whole new layer on any visitor attraction experience.

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Speaker 3: You've been to the Hall of Fame in Atlanta.

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00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 17: Yeah, I was there for a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 11: Our team members, just the last two team members just

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00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 11: flew back this morning. They're in transit now. We had

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Speaker 11: a team on the ground for a month. My extraordinary

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00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 11: colleagues and Hype Cinema have worked incredibly hard. A Kiwi

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00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 11: firtam we had even had a Kiwi flag up at

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Speaker 11: the back.

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Speaker 3: Where we were working in great story. Well then, Miles,

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Speaker 3: congratulations Miles Gregory, Hypercinema, New Zealand c that's a good

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Speaker 3: example of one hour tech industry, which we don't talk

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00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 3: about enough given what's value as to the country in

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00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 3: terms of foreign income. But also it's a good example

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Speaker 3: of a local variation on a global story.

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Speaker 19: I e.

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Speaker 3: AI is everywhere and anyone can do anything with it,

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00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 3: and yet New Zealanders with ingenuity and cleverness are doing

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00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 3: something specific, So good on them. Mike I do the

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00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 3: Rolls Roycet version of Paul Fence and get in touch

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00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 3: it if you need any No council hassles with me,

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00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 3: Thanks Jace. But it's all under control. No hassle's with

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00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 3: Mayo the council. Wish I could say that, Jay. I'll

1244
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 3: tell the story one day. It's a bit long, some

1245
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 3: might say, actually at the end it was a bit boring,

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00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 3: But I'm still going to tell it.

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Speaker 2: Big news, bold opinions, the Mic Hosking, Breakfast with Bailey's

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00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 2: real Estate, your local experts across residential, commercial and rural news,

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Speaker 2: togs Hed b.

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Speaker 12: King, Christy's Brother's Head, and a roll that's my great.

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Speaker 3: It's a sound, isn't it?

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01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 10: It is a sound, isn't it now?

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01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 3: Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds Wild God sounds like

1254
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 3: the work of a man who's still coming to terms

1255
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 3: with heartbreaking loss and is utterly unashamed to show us

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Speaker 3: as scarce. He always sort of sounds like that, though,

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Speaker 3: doesn't he That's exactly what the Seeds from me enough,

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Speaker 3: But he has endured a great deal of personal hardship,

1259
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 3: of weight. But he sounded pretty morose to start with,

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01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 3: So it's it's muscular and dynamic is the plane. He

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01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 3: sings from the heart and deliver some of the most

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01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 3: emotionally resonant work of his career. Apparently, track nine is

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Speaker 3: called oh Wow, oh Wow.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I might play that one later on.

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Speaker 3: We'll probably wow Wow. Anyway, ten tracks, forty three and

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Speaker 3: a half minutes of this. It was eight minutes past

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Speaker 3: day time for politics Wednesday. Mark Mitchell's with us along

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Speaker 3: with Jinny Anderson. Very good morning to both of you.

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Speaker 3: Good morning now, Ginny, take us through, and I mean this,

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01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 3: you know I love you, but take us through. Take

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Speaker 3: us through the anatomy of a numerical cock up the

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01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 3: size of which you were responsible for last week. And

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01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 3: when it came to the police beat.

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Speaker 23: Before I do that, I have to apologize and advance.

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01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 23: I'm at the airport and I had a bright idea

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Speaker 23: that I'd go in the quarter dounge showers.

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Speaker 22: Because it will be quiet.

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Speaker 17: So it is quite, but it's a really big.

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Speaker 23: Speaker and if they announced a flight going out to

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Speaker 23: New Plymouth, I apologize for that.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so you are in the shower cubicle. I am

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Speaker 3: in the Korru lounge.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, that's right. What are important you I'm at Wellington,

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01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 23: Fine to Auckland.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I've got fifty dollars for the first person who's

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01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 3: listening to us in the Corey Lounge in Wellington who

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01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 3: busts in the knocks on the door in the middle

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Speaker 3: of the progress.

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Speaker 23: It's three us in empty so I forget it was safe.

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01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 3: Good on you right now. So how did you get

1291
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 3: the numbers so wrong? Or did you deliberately get the

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Speaker 3: numbers so wrong? And you were busted?

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Speaker 23: Look, it wasn't deliberate. But when we were doing those numbers,

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Speaker 23: they should have been done a year on year, and

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Speaker 23: so we took them for when National Foods came into

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Speaker 23: government to the date. But you know, ultimately I'm responsible

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Speaker 23: for how that's done, and in hindsight, we should have

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Speaker 23: done it a year on year, not a six month

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Speaker 23: period exactly.

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Speaker 3: So you would can see that the beat numbers are up.

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Speaker 3: So I didn't cat would you can see the beat

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Speaker 3: numbers are up. In other words, Mark has increased the

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Speaker 3: number of people on the beat.

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Speaker 23: They do in some areas, they still don't in others

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Speaker 23: and rural perhaps they have gone down. But overall, yes,

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Speaker 23: they hacking up. I well can see that. But it's

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Speaker 23: been concentrated in the urban areas.

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Speaker 3: Good stuff. And you knew this all along, Mark, obviously.

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Speaker 24: Yeah, of course, I mean it's just a lame excuse.

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Speaker 24: Of course they should have measured the numbers poply instead

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Speaker 24: of cherry picking. And she got caught out and obviously

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Speaker 24: didn't like the fact that they were sure they were

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Speaker 24: trying to deceive the media and they got called out.

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Speaker 24: Good on them, so they should have been.

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Speaker 3: Did you while I'm on police matters, just briefly, Mark,

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Speaker 3: did you see the TV three piece this week and

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Speaker 3: they interviewed a blake and I can't remember his name,

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Speaker 3: but he's the head of something significant police wise in

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Speaker 3: christ They rounded up one of the drug busts and

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Speaker 3: then we got the Vietnamese thing last night. This guy

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Speaker 3: on the news just ran through a list of and

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Speaker 3: you would understand this, Juney as well, having been a

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Speaker 3: police minister, of the list of not just gangs, but

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Speaker 3: groups in this country that are involved in drugs, planting

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Speaker 3: people and from offshore into the scene in this country.

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Speaker 3: Just went on and on and on and on about

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Speaker 3: how many problems they've got, how many gangs there are,

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Speaker 3: how many groups there are, how many drugs there are

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Speaker 3: and how many hundreds of millions of dollars worth of

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Speaker 3: business is being done. I had no idea how big

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Speaker 3: it was.

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Speaker 24: You know, it's a big problem, and I mean I

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Speaker 24: watched it grow significantly and I was going to christ

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Speaker 24: the launch of the operation last week. Outstanding work by

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Speaker 24: the police. And I do reiterate that the government can

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Speaker 24: set the direction of travel without a deubt, with being

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Speaker 24: very clear what we're going to achieve as a government.

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Speaker 24: But it's the police out there doing the hard yards

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Speaker 24: and doing the work, and I want to acknowledge them

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Speaker 24: because they have had a tremendous response for us and

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Speaker 24: they are applying a normal pressure on the gangs. And

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Speaker 24: the gangs are responsible for a massively disproportionate amount of

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Speaker 24: organized crime and violence in this country. And it's not

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Speaker 24: small than we're going.

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Speaker 3: After them, right.

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Speaker 17: Yeah.

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Speaker 23: I just like to agree that police do do a

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Speaker 23: great job. But I think what is consuming is the

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Speaker 23: levels of sort of those A class drugs now reaching

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Speaker 23: New Zealand. We were always and the past thing is

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Speaker 23: a bit of a small markets fact. The levels of

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Speaker 23: meeting and now cocaine that we're seeing in our waist

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Speaker 23: of the tasting as reaching musicals, and that's a reflection

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Speaker 23: of transnational authorized crime making its way.

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Speaker 3: Into the Do you have a reason a summation Jenny

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Speaker 3: as to why this is because part of that story

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Speaker 3: it said there was some guy selling six k's of

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Speaker 3: coke and New York or something. I said, don't do

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Speaker 3: it there, bring it to New Zealand. The profit margin

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Speaker 3: so much? Are we just a bunch of suckers and

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Speaker 3: losers who can't pay enough to get off our faces?

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Speaker 23: Well, the thing is the greater the risk you take

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Speaker 23: and the title of the market. At straight economics, you

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Speaker 23: get to have a higher price point. And so because

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Speaker 23: we're an ocean and we're a long way away and

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Speaker 23: got a big order, it is a higher risk to

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Speaker 23: get it in. But when people do get it in,

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Speaker 23: they make a lot of money. So clearly there's some

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Speaker 23: criminal groups operating internationally that a found the way throughout

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Speaker 23: order in various ways. Because we're seeing it in water

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Speaker 23: tasting with cocaine reaching record high as in New Zealand

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Speaker 23: that we've never seen before.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, Jenny hold on Mark Mitchell, Jinny Anderson in the

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Speaker 3: shower not together that was that was bad said, But anyway,

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Speaker 3: more in a moment thirteen minutes past eight.

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Speaker 3: Talks, It Be So it Be caught a past date.

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Speaker 3: Ginny Anderson, Mark Mitchell Withers, just real quick on this one,

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Speaker 3: you guys, Mark the tourist Levy, do you have a

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Speaker 3: view on I mean, I know, obviously there's a government

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Speaker 3: you just put it up, But do you have a

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Speaker 3: view whether it's going to stop people coming to the

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Speaker 3: country you exercised about it or not.

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Speaker 24: I don't think it will. I mean I did a

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Speaker 24: scientific study this morning. I asked my twenty three year

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Speaker 24: old step son, who's a training teacher and who works

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Speaker 24: hard for the money that he saves, and he saved

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Speaker 24: to go on a trip to Peru, And I said,

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Speaker 24: if you had to pay an extra one hundred bucks

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Speaker 24: to go to Peru, will stop me going? He says, no,

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Speaker 24: it's not all So I don't know. We'll have to

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Speaker 24: wait and see Met's gonna monitor and see how it lands.

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Speaker 24: But I think that you. I think that sweet Nash.

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Speaker 24: He was fantastic on the show this morning. Is a

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Speaker 24: previous tourism Minitry laid it out there very clearly, so

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Speaker 24: I thought he was outsetting.

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Speaker 23: Do you have a view, Ginny, Well, I do agree

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Speaker 23: with Jeanish on the fact that it should be used

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Speaker 23: for tourism infrastructure, not to make the difference of what

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Speaker 23: mention will shorten their budget. So it's not been used

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Speaker 23: to there as far as.

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Speaker 3: Them all, doesn't matter where it is what it is.

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Speaker 23: There's been no clear commitment on that will go back

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Speaker 23: into tourism infrastructure, and so small parts of New Zealand

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Speaker 23: who get increased tourism if we do. That's a real

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Speaker 23: concern that they're not interesting in extra so I'll see

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Speaker 23: through the city.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you're right. That is quite a loud speaker

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Speaker 3: bipartisan as far there's a story mark this morning and

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Speaker 3: it concerns Karen Shaw and it doesn't matter. But the

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Speaker 3: point of the story this morning is the Children's Minister

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Speaker 3: decided against officials advice about the best way to combat

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Speaker 3: serious youth offending. How and the media seems fascinated by

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Speaker 3: these sort of stories. How often do you get advice

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Speaker 3: from officials that you may or may not ignore And

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Speaker 3: how much weight on any given day, on any given

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Speaker 3: subject do you place on officials advice.

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Speaker 24: Well, we'll close a lot of importance on officials, because

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Speaker 24: it is important that we get that. But we are

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Speaker 24: elected to go in there and make decisions, and sometimes

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Speaker 24: we're not going to agree with the officials device and

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Speaker 24: we're going to continue to do what we believe in.

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Speaker 24: And that's probably the case of Karen. A classic example

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Speaker 24: is what there's the debate of the narrative at the

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Speaker 24: moment around the initial party clamping down on gangs. And

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Speaker 24: I see there as an article today from the Police

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Speaker 24: Association saying, you know, it's all too hard with the

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Speaker 24: new legislation coming. And I can tell you the Police

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Speaker 24: Association has been talking to me for three years saying

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Speaker 24: that it's intolerable risk to the frontline police officers, which

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Speaker 24: I agree with because of the gangs and the violence,

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Speaker 24: the guns and the way that they're operating right and

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Speaker 24: these wars. An example, let me just use buying example.

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Speaker 24: When I was in the police and a dog canter

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Speaker 24: out of Gisbon. I was called to Warra one night

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Speaker 24: because of distressed mother had called the police to say

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Speaker 24: my daughter has been lured into the mother of mob pad.

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Speaker 24: They're doing a patching ceremony there and she's very concerned

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Speaker 24: that she's been gang raped, she's been what's called blocked.

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Speaker 24: So I sent down to Warra because at that stage

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Speaker 24: the shorter staff I picked. Seeing size that we went

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Speaker 24: straight up to the pair. I turned the soire and

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Speaker 24: on outside of the pair to make full Number one,

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Speaker 24: those young women knew that we arrived, there was help there.

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Speaker 24: And number two obviously to distract the game members. Now

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Speaker 24: there was only two of us. There's about forty petch

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Speaker 24: game members. But you know what, I knew that the

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Speaker 24: gisbone we saw on their way. So the light we

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Speaker 24: gave was coming over the hill and we dealt with that.

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Speaker 24: The police have got the resources, they've got the ability

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Speaker 24: to be able to deal with the gangs. I completely

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Speaker 24: totally backed them, and this legislation is going to give

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Speaker 24: them the powers that they need to continue to enforce

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Speaker 24: and let the public know that our police are controlling

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Speaker 24: the streets and not the gangs.

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Speaker 3: All right, advice Jinny as minister, when you get it,

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Speaker 3: what weight do you place on them?

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Speaker 23: You weighed up and you take it from a range

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Speaker 23: of sources. And that's one of the benefits that they

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Speaker 23: lobbied is you take officials. But you also talk to

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Speaker 23: on each people or a lot of small businesses, people

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Speaker 23: who have got an interest in that area. So you

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Speaker 23: take a range of advice. But you know there are

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Speaker 23: some real consumed being raised by police and the Police

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Speaker 23: Association around the ability to enforce, particularly in rural parts

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Speaker 23: of New Zealand. We do see these vacancies in those areas,

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Speaker 23: and we do see these high numbers, and there is

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Speaker 23: real consume that police won't not only has the demand

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Speaker 23: force or the people in there, but also the it

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Speaker 23: the ict that thought came out that if you're going

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Speaker 23: to disperse someone and then find out if that same

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Speaker 23: persons can come back and prosecute them, you need to

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Speaker 23: make sure that that's the same person if you're going

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Speaker 23: to be successful in court at prosecuting. And there's some

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Speaker 23: real consumed and we found that through Select Committee that

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Speaker 23: some of those processes are not yet in place. So

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Speaker 23: the government's in a hurry to get this through, but

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Speaker 23: I worry that that's the extent of frontline safety in

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Speaker 23: some parts of New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: I'll right good stuff like well and catch up next week.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate it very much. Jenny Anderson, Mark Mental late twenty.

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Speaker 3: ban for the palms. There were twenty six other newbies

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Speaker 3: like me donating too. Hey, how good's that, Mike. I'm

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Speaker 3: an institutional caterer. Currently spent two and a half million

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Speaker 3: a year on food. Five years ago we spent one

1510
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:11,600
Speaker 3: point nine million. This goes back to the status I

1511
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 3: was giving you on inflation before eight o'clock. So one

1512
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 3: point nine to two point five million, same meal count,

1513
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 3: same business, roughly a twenty five percent increase. We've adapted

1514
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:22,559
Speaker 3: our menus in that time to adjust to market conditions

1515
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 3: by buying in less ready made product and producing more

1516
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 3: items from scratch. Households must also adapt to market conditions

1517
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:30,760
Speaker 3: by buying more basic food stuffs and less ready to

1518
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 3: make There's probably something in that. Speaking of which our

1519
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:37,720
Speaker 3: old mate peers out this morning with his cape. He is,

1520
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 3: of course the Grocery Commissioner, one of the genius ideas

1521
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Speaker 3: from the Labor government, and he was going to transform

1522
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 3: the way that the supermarket industry was operating because his

1523
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 3: series of powers and magical treats were going to tip

1524
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:55,599
Speaker 3: the industry upside down, shake it all about, and before

1525
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 3: you knew it, we were going to be able to

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01:12:57,320 --> 01:12:59,719
Speaker 3: go into a supermarketing way. My word, aren't we getting

1527
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:02,839
Speaker 3: a good deal here? Well, so in his first annual report,

1528
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:08,680
Speaker 3: he has announced this morning that there is no meaningful improvement.

1529
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 3: So dunno. What Pierre has been doing paints a concerning picture,

1530
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 3: increasing retail margins, ongoing dominance, clear evidence for stronger action.

1531
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 3: Our regulatory regime is the first of its type in

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01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 3: the world, so we always knew it would be complicated

1533
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 3: to introduce changes. It's not what he said at the start.

1534
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 3: They're going to bring forward a review of the supply

1535
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:36,559
Speaker 3: code that came into affect in September last year. Here's

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01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:38,560
Speaker 3: my quick question for Perre on the supply code that

1537
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 3: came into affect in September last year given its September

1538
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 3: this year. In other words, the whole thing's been going

1539
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 3: for a whole year. If it's been going for a

1540
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:48,400
Speaker 3: whole year per year, and this was your first hot move,

1541
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 3: your big hot take on the industry, how come in

1542
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:53,839
Speaker 3: a year later your opening words are no meaningful improvement.

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01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:56,840
Speaker 3: Could it possibly be Per? You're not doing anything, which

1544
01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 3: is not Per's fault. But I do remember at the

1545
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 3: time distinctly saying, is this guy bored? Is he looking

1546
01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 3: for work? What on earth is he going to achieve

1547
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 3: in his first year in the office? And is this

1548
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:10,760
Speaker 3: just another just into special designed to be a sop

1549
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:13,599
Speaker 3: to somebody somewhere And we're all going to end up thinking,

1550
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:16,400
Speaker 3: oh my word. They've turned around the supermarket industry. They

1551
01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 3: intend to introduce a set of enforceable rules for the

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01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 3: wholesale regime. They're also considering if we need additional stronger tools,

1553
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:29,759
Speaker 3: not just tools, but stronger tools, big strong tools.

1554
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 10: Does he mentioned the thirty three percent increase in the price.

1555
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 3: Of yogurt nowhere in this report? Can and I think

1556
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 3: I miss if your game. He's burying the lead, Pierre,

1557
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 3: what about the yogurt us for you? In a couple

1558
01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 3: of moments here with news Talks Edvit.

1559
01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 2: Demanding the answers from the decision makers, the Mic Hosking

1560
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 2: Breakfast with a Vita, Retirement Communities, Life Your Way News

1561
01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:57,240
Speaker 2: togs headb.

1562
01:14:57,240 --> 01:14:59,720
Speaker 3: Mike about the Grocery Commission given twenty eight million for

1563
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 3: his apartment and completely ineffectable. I said it would be

1564
01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:03,800
Speaker 3: twenty eight million, by the ways, over four years, so

1565
01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 3: it's seven times for It's a lot of money for

1566
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 3: a bloke to sit around and write a report, isn't it?

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01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:09,559
Speaker 3: Not that I'm a fan Mike. But Ginny Anderson had

1568
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:11,759
Speaker 3: good reason for not fronting up today, considering the police

1569
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 3: numbers faux pa of the last week. But she turned up.

1570
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 3: Many of her colleagues would have let someone else put

1571
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 3: water on the fire, but she stood in a shower

1572
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 3: at the airport. Big ups. Fair enough. Twenty three minutes away.

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01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 18: From nine International correspondence with endsit Eye insurance, peace of

1574
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 18: mind for New Zealand business.

1575
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:29,720
Speaker 3: In Australia, we go and Steve pass with us morning mate,

1576
01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:33,720
Speaker 3: Hey hello, So in reading hey hello to you too.

1577
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:37,560
Speaker 3: So in reading about Mike Burgess yesterday, did he misspeak

1578
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:39,800
Speaker 3: in the first place and he's trying to backtrack or

1579
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:43,120
Speaker 3: as he suggested, people misinterpreted what he said? And is

1580
01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:43,599
Speaker 3: this a mess?

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01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 6: It is a mess?

1582
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 4: You got that one? You got that big right? Did

1583
01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 4: he misspeak in the first place? Probably? Did people misinterpret

1584
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 4: what he said? No? I don't believe so now he

1585
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:58,080
Speaker 4: has had to come out and clean this up because

1586
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 4: you might recall it when par on a class saturd

1587
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:03,679
Speaker 4: week ago, every question to the Prime Minister was about

1588
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 4: the three thousand visas that have been issued. That doesn't

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01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 4: mean three thousand Palestinians have come here, but a number

1590
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:14,280
Speaker 4: did get out of Palestine before the gates closed. That

1591
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:18,519
Speaker 4: was back in May. About fifteen hundred people have arrived

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01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:23,400
Speaker 4: in Australia. Burgess said originally that look, you know you

1593
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 4: wouldn't pass muster if you were a Hamas supporter. But

1594
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:32,479
Speaker 4: it did not necessarily pose a problem, a rhetorical problem

1595
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:35,679
Speaker 4: if you rhetorically support them. I mean, it was awkward

1596
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 4: language and he should never have said it. So the

1597
01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 4: Opposition seized on this and said, well the government should

1598
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:45,040
Speaker 4: have overruled him and told him. And you might remember

1599
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:47,920
Speaker 4: Peter Dutton was sitting in an airport in Sydney when

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01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:50,639
Speaker 4: the Olympians came home, was asked about this and he said,

1601
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:52,640
Speaker 4: no one from Gaza should be coming here at all

1602
01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:55,479
Speaker 4: until this is all over. Well, Burgess has come out

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01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:59,599
Speaker 4: yesterday and he has tried to clarify it. He's done

1604
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:03,280
Speaker 4: it on the ABC and he said, anybody, anyone declaring

1605
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:06,560
Speaker 4: any endorsement of terrorism or destruction of Israel or the

1606
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:11,559
Speaker 4: October seven massacre would not pass. Must As I've said,

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01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:14,720
Speaker 4: three thousand of those visas have been a supporter, he said,

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01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:17,360
Speaker 4: if they have support for the ideology, that is now

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01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:19,720
Speaker 4: going to be a problem. Now. The Prime Minister was

1610
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 4: asked about this yesterday, does want to buy back into it.

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01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:25,400
Speaker 4: But most people are still not satisfied that the proper

1612
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:27,920
Speaker 4: checks and balances, and this is the question, are being

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01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 4: done on the people who've got the visas.

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01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:31,640
Speaker 3: No example, So he went down the track of light.

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01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:33,680
Speaker 3: If you like a social media post, that would be

1616
01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 3: a problem for applicants, if it's a tweet. I mean,

1617
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:38,719
Speaker 3: he's got himself in a massive hole. Speaking of Alban Easy,

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01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 3: This guy Brett Mason, who is his media chief, had

1619
01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:43,880
Speaker 3: been in the job for about two and a half minutes.

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01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:48,320
Speaker 3: He's quit, second one's gone. This always smells of trouble,

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01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:48,680
Speaker 3: doesn't it.

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01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:51,479
Speaker 4: Well, the other thing that smells the trouble. You're right,

1623
01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 4: you're right to pick that up is cabinet's starting to

1624
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 4: leak against him. I mean, one of the old adages

1625
01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 4: is once your cabinet's not solid and starts leaking to

1626
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 4: the media. You've got a problem. I raised that because

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01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:04,960
Speaker 4: you recall we spoke last week about the question and

1628
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 4: the census on what people's sexuality was. It was an

1629
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:14,639
Speaker 4: awkwardly posed question about LGBTQI, and the Prime Minister, according

1630
01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:16,799
Speaker 4: to the leaks out of cabinet that are published today,

1631
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 4: shut this down just before he left to go to

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01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:22,479
Speaker 4: Tonga for the South Seasic Forum, and he said, listen,

1633
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 4: we've got to have a question in the census about this,

1634
01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:29,599
Speaker 4: but these are too awkward, these questions now. That then

1635
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:33,360
Speaker 4: led the census people to drop the question altogether. Then

1636
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:36,800
Speaker 4: the backbenches in Labor started complaining because they've got a

1637
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 4: gay community in their electorates and now they've had to

1638
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 4: come up with another question to put it back in.

1639
01:18:42,520 --> 01:18:44,960
Speaker 4: The reason I raise all that is that comes from

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01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 4: several in the Herald newspapers, in the cinema held this morning,

1641
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:52,880
Speaker 4: several sources within cabinet leaking to the media. That is

1642
01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:53,800
Speaker 4: never a good look.

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01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:54,680
Speaker 12: No it is not.

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01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:56,360
Speaker 3: And then you come to the gambling. See, I've been

1645
01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:58,320
Speaker 3: following this with a great deal of interest, and it

1646
01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:00,439
Speaker 3: seems to have been going on law longer than it

1647
01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 3: needs to have gone on a either you going to

1648
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 3: ban gambling ads or you're not? Are they.

1649
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:07,160
Speaker 1: Eventually?

1650
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:10,679
Speaker 4: And I say that this was a leak on Sky

1651
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 4: News with Andrew Canel our political party yesterday the problem

1652
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:16,240
Speaker 4: and I've now worked it out like you, I've been

1653
01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 4: following it with great interest because I think it's a

1654
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:20,720
Speaker 4: great debate to have. Do you have gambling ads where

1655
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:23,839
Speaker 4: you can spot that on sport while it's on online

1656
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 4: on your phone no matter your age, because they can't

1657
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:28,840
Speaker 4: tell how old you are. And I think most people

1658
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:30,519
Speaker 4: would say, well, that's probably not a great thing to

1659
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 4: have happened. Yes, you can't. I don't like banning things,

1660
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 4: but perhaps the extent of advertising, the amount of advertising,

1661
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:39,799
Speaker 4: needs to be wound back. Well, this leak yesterday suggests

1662
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 4: what they're going to do is in two years time

1663
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:45,799
Speaker 4: they are going to limit the number of gambling ads

1664
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 4: on freeedoware television and PATV during sporting events. Why two

1665
01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 4: years Well, the gamblings treat clearly and major sport have

1666
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 4: got into the year of the Minister and said, hey,

1667
01:19:56,920 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 4: hang on, we've got contracts with these gambling companies and

1668
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:03,479
Speaker 4: they are very lucrative contracts and we can't break them,

1669
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 4: and you can't force us to break them because they're

1670
01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 4: signed contracts. And the government has gone, oh yeah, only

1671
01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 4: you're probably right, and they probably are right. The government

1672
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:13,920
Speaker 4: could do it, but they've got an election coming up.

1673
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:16,719
Speaker 4: They really want the gambling industry like the mining indsty

1674
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 4: did a few years ago, to start running ads against

1675
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:22,720
Speaker 4: the government, and though they do not, And if you

1676
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:25,240
Speaker 4: took gambling money, and I'm sure it's the same in

1677
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:29,519
Speaker 4: New Zealand away from major sport, where it does eventually

1678
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:34,719
Speaker 4: flow down to the minor sporting codes underneath the major sports,

1679
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:36,400
Speaker 4: you'd have a big funding problem.

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01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:38,760
Speaker 3: Exactly, all right, mate, See Frida, appreciate it. Steve Price

1681
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:42,000
Speaker 3: out of Australia nineteen minutes away from nine Paski City

1682
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:44,799
Speaker 3: retailers I'm reading yesterday city retailers are popping the champagne

1683
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:47,639
Speaker 3: corks work as a return to the office. International tourists back,

1684
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:50,519
Speaker 3: students fly, and shoppers came back for weekend visits. Vacancy

1685
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:54,200
Speaker 3: rates have fall into near pre pandemic levels. Melbourne is

1686
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:56,000
Speaker 3: leading the charge with the lowest level in the country

1687
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:58,200
Speaker 3: at six point nine percent vacancy rate down from seven

1688
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:02,000
Speaker 3: point four Sydney's sitting at seven point four percent compared

1689
01:21:02,040 --> 01:21:05,680
Speaker 3: with eight point one Center, who's a big player in

1690
01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:07,840
Speaker 3: this part of the world as well, Vicinity. They demand

1691
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 3: for retails rising, CBD tenants are riding higher than at

1692
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 3: any time in the past four years. So it's a

1693
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:16,839
Speaker 3: good economic news story out of Australia, isn't it. Seventeen

1694
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 3: minutes away from none.

1695
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:23,439
Speaker 2: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

1696
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Speaker 2: by News Talks.

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Speaker 3: At be fourteen away from nine just for I forget

1698
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:29,559
Speaker 3: Australia from Australia about us, though it's alway. I always

1699
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:32,720
Speaker 3: enjoy reading stuff from other people overseas and their view

1700
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:34,920
Speaker 3: of what's going on in New Zealand and the ABC

1701
01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:38,519
Speaker 3: Yesterday headliners look it up. In New Zealand, interest rates

1702
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:40,200
Speaker 3: have started to fall. This is the impact on the

1703
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 3: housing market. So they have a look at what the

1704
01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:43,960
Speaker 3: Central Bank has done, because of course the Central Bank

1705
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 3: in Australia hasn't moved. They're about to debatably, they talk

1706
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 3: about the business and consumer sentiment that's improved in this country.

1707
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:53,120
Speaker 3: Economists say New Zealanders can now see the light at

1708
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 3: the end of the tunnel. I think that's probably true.

1709
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:57,880
Speaker 3: Sharon Zolner at the am Z is quoted with their

1710
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:03,120
Speaker 3: business Surveys Centrics. They've got Keith McLaughlin in there and

1711
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:05,599
Speaker 3: he says we got punished a lot more than Australia,

1712
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 3: which is true economically speaking. They talk a bit about

1713
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:10,559
Speaker 3: the housing market. The core Logic data that came out

1714
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:13,720
Speaker 3: this week interesting their comparison the way they view it.

1715
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 3: Their housing market has been going gangbusters, of course, whereas

1716
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:20,439
Speaker 3: ours has been doing exactly the opposite. They see in Auckland.

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Speaker 3: The auction clearance rate is starting to go up a

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01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 3: little bit. First time buyers have done okay in this

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01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 3: country compared with Australia. So On says it's a little

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01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:31,639
Speaker 3: bit of a punt what Adrian's done with a first cup,

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01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:33,720
Speaker 3: but it's a fairly comprehensive ole read. They tend to

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01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:36,240
Speaker 3: write fairly linked the articles at the ABC because they well,

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01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:38,040
Speaker 3: you know what the ABC's like. It's like ourn Z.

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01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 3: But nevertheless it is an interesting insight into New Zealand

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01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:46,160
Speaker 3: from their perspective and probably well worth reading. Mike the

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01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:48,160
Speaker 3: blood guy here the guy texted earlier se he was

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01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:50,360
Speaker 3: giving blood if you or the misses a river heading

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01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:53,679
Speaker 3: to Rangura on say a house hunting trip. Very funny.

1729
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:57,639
Speaker 3: Come stay with us at the Riverstone in Rangura. What's exciting?

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01:22:57,680 --> 01:23:00,559
Speaker 3: And I looked you up at the Riverstone Hotel. You've

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01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:03,800
Speaker 3: got a bar with the poll table. That is one

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01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:07,160
Speaker 3: smart business move. How often have you been staying in

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01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:09,400
Speaker 3: a motel? Gone? Jeez? What can I do? There's nothing

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01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:13,479
Speaker 3: to do? Straight to the pull table. I mean, fantastic, Mike.

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01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 3: I want more trumpets.

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01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:16,240
Speaker 15: Now.

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01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 3: I only do the trumpet sparingly. I did it for

1738
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:21,560
Speaker 3: the grocery report. I'll probably hold my next trumpetuntil the

1739
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:24,920
Speaker 3: second grocery report. Body, might please make sure you tell

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01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:27,880
Speaker 3: us about your pool drama. The public will be gobsmacked

1741
01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:31,400
Speaker 3: to know how useless these job create. Some fiftoms really are.

1742
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 10: Well, they just not breathe a resigned sigh.

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01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:41,000
Speaker 3: I reckon, here's my having lived through it. And might

1744
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 3: I also credit my wife, who did all the actual

1745
01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 3: donkey work. We haven't got the bill yet. Actually we

1746
01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:48,240
Speaker 3: have got the bill. A bill will be part of

1747
01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:50,080
Speaker 3: the story, but there is a bill. The fact there's

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01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:51,960
Speaker 3: a bill interested in me, given that you have no

1749
01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:54,439
Speaker 3: choice over these matters and they're a monopoly, and anyway,

1750
01:23:54,640 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 3: I think in conclusion with the story, even though you

1751
01:23:57,320 --> 01:23:59,840
Speaker 3: go into the story knowing full well that none of

1752
01:23:59,880 --> 01:24:01,839
Speaker 3: them this is going to be good. And it involves

1753
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 3: a council, and you think, well, yeah, this is going

1754
01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:06,200
Speaker 3: to be pretty useless, because that's what councils are. I

1755
01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:10,160
Speaker 3: think ninety three percent of you will end up going

1756
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:13,719
Speaker 3: I had no idea that it could be actually that bad.

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01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 10: So the end conclusion, I always say, it's better to

1758
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:19,200
Speaker 10: know someone with.

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01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:22,600
Speaker 3: A pool than to have a pool couldn't agree with

1760
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:26,400
Speaker 3: you more. Yeah, like boats could not agree with you more.

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01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:30,720
Speaker 3: Not that our pool isn't a beautiful pool, but if

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01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:33,360
Speaker 3: you could transport yourself in time to a point where

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01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 3: you go pain factor versus you go, let's just leave it.

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01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:39,280
Speaker 10: Have you considered opening it to the public sort of

1765
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:40,760
Speaker 10: Jeremy Clarkson style.

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01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:43,040
Speaker 3: It's not part of the consent Processly.

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01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:46,160
Speaker 10: Of course I didn't think of that. Then the nightmare

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01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:46,960
Speaker 10: starts over again?

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01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:49,559
Speaker 3: Does happen that way? By the way, what's more important

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01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:51,160
Speaker 3: at this present point. I will get to the story

1771
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:53,439
Speaker 3: one day. What's more important this particular point in time

1772
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:55,599
Speaker 3: is kimchi. Now you know my love of kim cheese

1773
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:58,920
Speaker 3: sprinkles so I discovered the kim Chie sprinkles, and my

1774
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:02,519
Speaker 3: life has never been the same again. I'm reading yesterday

1775
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:05,280
Speaker 3: that kimchi, which is where it all comes from originally before,

1776
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 3: they don't grow sprinkles. They grow kimchi, and they turn

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01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:10,160
Speaker 3: them into sprinkles.

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01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:10,960
Speaker 10: Oh, they don't come out.

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01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:11,560
Speaker 3: They don't know.

1780
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 10: I thought maybe they started as sprinkles into the ones.

1781
01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:18,240
Speaker 3: You don't go to the big Kimchie sprinkle paddick in

1782
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:21,120
Speaker 3: Korea and get yourself in kimche sprinkles. They become sprinkles.

1783
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 3: They start out as kimchi. And what I'm told is

1784
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:27,760
Speaker 3: that climate change is affecting the naper cabbage, which is

1785
01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:30,920
Speaker 3: where the kim Chie sprinkles come from. Cabbage likes cooler

1786
01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:34,320
Speaker 3: climates and in that particular part of the world, and

1787
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 3: nothing above twenty five. Apparently, who likes anything really above

1788
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 3: twenty five? Anyway, we like cabbages basically, so it's been

1789
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 3: above twenty five. It is consistently above twenty five in Korea.

1790
01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:47,400
Speaker 3: The cabbages aren't happy. There's not as many cabbages. And

1791
01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:50,560
Speaker 3: if there aren't as many cabbages and not as many sprinkles, Jesus.

1792
01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:52,960
Speaker 14: It's just never any bad news, isn't it? First, we

1793
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:55,639
Speaker 14: don't have anywhere to host the Olympics because it's getting

1794
01:25:55,680 --> 01:25:56,200
Speaker 14: too hot now.

1795
01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:59,560
Speaker 3: And now Kimchi and what you know about supply and

1796
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:02,080
Speaker 3: demand if the supply isn't there, but the demand is

1797
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:04,080
Speaker 3: because you know, once you've been down the kim Chee

1798
01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 3: sprinkle track, you never looked back. And the question is

1799
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:09,200
Speaker 3: how much are you prepared to pay for some kim

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01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 3: cheese sprinkles? Night Away from Nine, the Mike Hosking Breakfast with.

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01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:16,840
Speaker 1: The Jaguar Fpace News Talks Dead be.

1802
01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:18,800
Speaker 3: I couldn't agree with you more. Mike on Paul's big

1803
01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:23,040
Speaker 3: expense of black holes with a per hour joy factor

1804
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 3: worse than the GFC, I actually don't disagree. I don't

1805
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:29,759
Speaker 3: agree with that. I love the point anyway. Mike features

1806
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:31,960
Speaker 3: on the website. Do I on the Kimchi Sprinkle website?

1807
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:34,439
Speaker 3: I'm the king of kim Cheese sprinkles. By the way,

1808
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:37,080
Speaker 3: Katie showed me the latest scam involving me yesterday. It

1809
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 3: was look very authentic. Was on Radio New Zealand, sort

1810
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:43,200
Speaker 3: of like it came off a Radio New Zealand website

1811
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:46,479
Speaker 3: and the headline was life will never be the same again,

1812
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:49,000
Speaker 3: and there was a photo of me and I was

1813
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:51,840
Speaker 3: arrested at the border as I was trying to flee

1814
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:56,960
Speaker 3: the country. You keep they're down on the down, then

1815
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:00,000
Speaker 3: you don't know. And this is the beauty of broadcast

1816
01:27:00,160 --> 01:27:03,400
Speaker 3: in these days. I'm actually in Patagoni. You're at the

1817
01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:06,160
Speaker 3: moment and you wouldn't know it. I saw a barbershop

1818
01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 3: in Pyro last week Mike with a pool table, had

1819
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:10,800
Speaker 3: plenty of custom course a bit. This is my top

1820
01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:12,800
Speaker 3: business tip for this morning, and I don't often give

1821
01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:14,519
Speaker 3: these out. If you're struggling a bit with the cost

1822
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:16,479
Speaker 3: of living crisis at the moment, doesn't matter what business

1823
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:17,360
Speaker 3: or industry you're in.

1824
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:20,640
Speaker 10: Put a pool table, then advertise on ZB and then

1825
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:20,960
Speaker 10: put a.

1826
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 3: Advertise on ZB that you've got a pool table, so

1827
01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:26,840
Speaker 3: you know, say you sell Paul fencing, or say you

1828
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:30,160
Speaker 3: sell pet food. You know, as heard on ZB, with

1829
01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 3: a pool table, come on in and take us on

1830
01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:35,400
Speaker 3: for a little game of eight pall something like that

1831
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:39,439
Speaker 3: eight ball and that'll turn your business around, almost guaranteed.

1832
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:42,080
Speaker 3: Five minutes away from nine trending.

1833
01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:45,880
Speaker 1: Now with them as well, Spring Frenzy sale on down.

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01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:48,519
Speaker 3: Name me a single other radio program that's as useful

1835
01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:50,840
Speaker 3: as this show is. Go on, you can't, can you?

1836
01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:53,720
Speaker 3: So here we are at the cricket. This was with

1837
01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:55,880
Speaker 3: England playing Sri Lanka. This was a month ago. No

1838
01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:58,400
Speaker 3: one watches test cricket anymore, so this has only just

1839
01:27:58,479 --> 01:28:03,320
Speaker 3: been discovered online. Tough nol Jonathan agnew Uh. They got

1840
01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:06,599
Speaker 3: on to talking about how to play the euphonium, which

1841
01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 3: of course then confused some people.

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01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:11,320
Speaker 8: Lots of practice a new technique, now, right, do you

1843
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:17,120
Speaker 8: we had fingering? Yes, well now it's all about tonguing,

1844
01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:24,280
Speaker 8: hard tonguing MH, soft tonguing.

1845
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:26,439
Speaker 3: And in between.

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01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:29,840
Speaker 8: And that's that's quite crucial. So lots of tongue in

1847
01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:31,200
Speaker 8: going and lots of practice.

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01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:33,600
Speaker 12: How do you do that?

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01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:37,679
Speaker 3: Yeah? Is the easier one, the hard hard tonguing.

1850
01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:39,200
Speaker 8: It's easier than soft tonguing.

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01:28:39,479 --> 01:28:42,240
Speaker 1: Right, well, yeah, I should imagine it.

1852
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:47,639
Speaker 8: Is fingering a tongueing. You're absolutely all over the place.

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01:28:49,640 --> 01:28:51,880
Speaker 8: That's a great fun and part of a team. That's

1854
01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:53,400
Speaker 8: what's nice about it. All part of a team. We're

1855
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:57,040
Speaker 8: all doing it at the same time. Good fun.

1856
01:28:57,439 --> 01:28:59,400
Speaker 14: So I'm assuming that's that's caught on. That been a

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01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:03,880
Speaker 14: commentary just because people want to know is very much. Well,

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01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:05,759
Speaker 14: that's the thing, euphone. It's a bit of a mystery,

1859
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:07,720
Speaker 14: isn't it exactly? Because I mean, you know, people look

1860
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:09,200
Speaker 14: at it and they go, oh, I said, a euphonium

1861
01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:10,160
Speaker 14: is a deflugal horn.

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01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:14,040
Speaker 3: How did they start that? That was the clip we

1863
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:16,679
Speaker 3: didn't get to. How did they start down that particular track?

1864
01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:19,880
Speaker 3: And more importantly, how do they hold it together? By

1865
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:22,320
Speaker 3: the way, just for all you climate denies, it's been

1866
01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:24,800
Speaker 3: the coolest UK summer since twenty fifteen. So what are

1867
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:25,400
Speaker 3: they going to do with that?

1868
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:25,640
Speaker 12: Eh?

1869
01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:26,559
Speaker 3: What's old?

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01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:27,960
Speaker 10: Well, that's good for the kimchi?

1871
01:29:28,120 --> 01:29:31,920
Speaker 3: What's old? Antonio guitarist going to say now as he

1872
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:35,439
Speaker 3: wanders around the Pacific raising the alarm back tomorrow morning

1873
01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:37,759
Speaker 3: from six as always Happy Days.

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1875
01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:49,080
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