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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Real Team, the

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Speaker 1: only truly global brand.

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Speaker 2: Jordan Williams, Taxpayers Union, Mark Sainsbury Broadcast highlights.

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Speaker 3: How do you say? I hear that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so says are you clear on what's going? As

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Speaker 2: clear as mardn't it?

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Speaker 4: It was a great interview actually because because she nailed

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Speaker 4: it straight away. But he keeps saying we've got these

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Speaker 4: three options, which I've had for how long is it

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Speaker 4: eight months that he's been talking about that?

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Speaker 2: It's a long time.

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Speaker 3: It's just all up in.

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Speaker 4: The end, no one knows. The thing that I find

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Speaker 4: disturbing about it is that it's a bit of you know,

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Speaker 4: obviously major changes need to be made. It's an entirely

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Speaker 4: different environment. But is it the BSA able just to

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Speaker 4: dictate itself what it's going to do. Someone he's got

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Speaker 4: to get in and sort this and sort the stuff out?

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Speaker 2: It does It does feel a bit silly to be

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Speaker 2: sitting there saying we're going to do something, We've got

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Speaker 2: these three options, and do nothing about it while this

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Speaker 2: thing rolls out. What do you think?

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Speaker 3: That interview just demonstrates how weak as water the government

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Speaker 3: is on anything do with culture war issues. This isn't

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Speaker 3: some independent it's not You're not asking to pontificate on

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Speaker 3: this a b say decision. It's jurisdictional. It's by definition

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Speaker 3: posey must be bloody nice. Actually, it's incredible achievement really

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Speaker 3: for Congaldie. One he gets paid only three hundred thousand

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Speaker 3: dollars to sit on a fence. You know, I would

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Speaker 3: all love that job. And two he's actually making Melissa

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Speaker 3: Ly look good, which is what an impressive eforce. It

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Speaker 3: was just a fit. I mean, there's so many people,

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Speaker 3: you know, care supporters, frustrated with the government, frustrated with

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Speaker 3: the National Party. This is case in point. How you've

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Speaker 3: had eight months to see this coming and yet it's

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Speaker 3: a little bit. It materially affects the tax Payers Union,

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Speaker 3: so to be news to the minister. But we sometimes

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Speaker 3: schedule our podcasts on the basis of this. The b

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Speaker 3: say will come after us. How dear the Taxpayers Union

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Speaker 3: not be neutral and give all sides and equal hearing

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Speaker 3: and things like that. This guy's pay him a decent amount.

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Speaker 3: We schedule that. We schedule for Jones. It is a

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Speaker 3: few weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: It is alive live, Oh no, it was alive.

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Speaker 3: I know your stuff is going to come to schedule.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they weren't like you.

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Speaker 3: It's fuck. We're paying you good money, but an army

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Speaker 3: officials around you, so you know, have a thought or

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Speaker 3: two about policy matters. And instead he wastes You're two

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Speaker 3: hundred thousand listeners. He just wasted their time saying, oh

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Speaker 3: you know, we know I'm telling you anything more that

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Speaker 3: I could have told you eight months ago. I've got

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Speaker 3: some options. Yeah, I could get rid of it and

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Speaker 3: oh you know, oh you know what could I do?

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Speaker 3: I just what a waste? What it's worth?

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Speaker 2: Oh I'm marrying him for Oh no, he's going to

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Speaker 2: send the BSA after you. After that. Absolutely the huddle with.

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Speaker 1: New Zealand Southby's International Realty, a name you can trust

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Speaker 1: locally and globally.

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Speaker 2: Right, you're back with the huddle. Mark Sainsbury. Jordan Williams says,

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Speaker 2: So how are you feeling about the alcohol rus? Has

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Speaker 2: it passed? I think I'm going to pass by now

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Speaker 2: alcohol rules. You can to get some booze on good Friday, listen.

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Speaker 4: I mean hither, I'm old enough to remember when most

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Speaker 4: stores couldn't like dairies had to cover off half of

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Speaker 4: what they had in stock on a Sunday because they

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Speaker 4: weren't a less self certain items formula you could not

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Speaker 4: buy on a Sunday. Ten ponds, you could not buy

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Speaker 4: it a Sunday. It was nuts, and we started changing this.

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Speaker 4: But there's been a few hangovers and it always sort

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Speaker 4: of smacked a bit of you know, it was a

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Speaker 4: sort of a religious observance. Well, we're gone past that.

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Speaker 4: We're a secular society. So look, I think it's time

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Speaker 4: to you know, I respect other people and how they

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Speaker 4: choose to worship and whatever they want to do, but

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Speaker 4: it doesn't mean that it has to capture the entire country.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is this is actually a good change. I

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I think. And actually the steps show quite

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Speaker 3: clearly drinking culture has materially changed. Unfortunately, you know, young

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Speaker 3: is the i'd argue was a very terrible thing. It's

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Speaker 3: huge social costs. But we all, you know, I like

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Speaker 3: to go out on a winery or to a winery

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Speaker 3: old six o'clocks. Well, so I think it's you know,

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Speaker 3: a bit of relax a bit of relaxation. The law

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Speaker 3: But then people have formed me in old Fogi for

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Speaker 3: not being a total libertarian on this sort of stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because what I mean, what if somebody walks in

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Speaker 2: at half past eleven for just about of an early

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Speaker 2: lunch and then they can't have a beer. That's silly,

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Speaker 3: Not Everyone has your lifestyle, Heather.

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Speaker 2: You know I don't have that lifestyle. That's my aspiration

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Speaker 2: once the children stop the naps at the midday. Say so,

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Speaker 2: tell me what you think about fends giving themselves as

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Speaker 2: the board seventy nine percent pay increases.

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Speaker 4: God, I hate to agree with you again, Heather, Doug,

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Speaker 4: you hit it totally right, tone death. Sure, they had

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Speaker 4: recommendations in the department to the minister, but this is

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Speaker 4: a dispute that's been going on for eighteen months and

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Speaker 4: they think it's a great idea to announce sort of

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Speaker 4: seventy nine forty something percent for the cheer. This is

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Speaker 4: on it just I just cannot understand how they thought

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Speaker 4: the thing was going to run.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't get a Jordan. Are you guys the

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Speaker 2: ones at the taxpayers Union calling for a review?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we were onto this before FENDS was even formed.

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Speaker 3: We said, look at Australia. They're unwinding their rural and

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Speaker 3: urban fire services because the amalgamation was such a disaster.

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Speaker 3: The compromise we got back then it was the last

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Speaker 3: cockup of Peter Dunn when he was minister, and it

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Speaker 3: got too far and the NATS couldn't unwind it as

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Speaker 3: we managed to get them to agree that they do

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Speaker 3: a post implementation review that has never happened. When Brook

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Speaker 3: her and said, hey, that review that the public was

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Speaker 3: promised hasn't happened. We think that, you know, we can

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Speaker 3: demonstrate lots of different ways how inefficient Finds is and

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Speaker 3: it's even worse than those warnings and forecasts, and we've

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Speaker 3: never had that review. We should not only did Finds

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Speaker 3: alienate the old rural fire service by the sort of

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Speaker 3: corporatization and the big so they have now animated their

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Speaker 3: own urban fire service side exactly the same thing, totally

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Speaker 3: out of touch one of the most dysfunctional head officers

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Speaker 3: in Wellington as fens.

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Speaker 2: Okay, now, Jordan, do you see the Roy Morgan pole.

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Speaker 3: I've heard of this. I've heard of this, this, this

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Speaker 3: pole that only doesn't release their methodology and poles over

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Speaker 3: a whole month rather than within a few days.

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Speaker 2: But yes, okay, NAT's on twenty six and a half.

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Speaker 2: Should we be paying that attention? Or is this a rogue?

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Speaker 3: Well, Roy Morgan does bounce around more than the others.

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Speaker 3: At the end of the day, there's only one pole

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Speaker 3: that counts. I'm pretty sure it's out next week.

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Speaker 2: Is this your pole?

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Speaker 3: I hear rumors around Wellington of the.

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Speaker 2: Field at the moment saying, Zoe, what do you think

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Speaker 2: ignore the twenty six and a half or is it

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 4: Looking at a look in context of the previous polls

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Speaker 4: that came out, and remember everyone help there's a drop

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Speaker 4: of national was sort of an aberration. I I I

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Speaker 4: agree that you know their pole, road, I mean poles

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Speaker 4: got the poles just bag of the polls with Jim

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Speaker 4: Bolger's famous kinde of course. I mean Jordan's right, I mean, well,

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Speaker 4: the one pole. It's really going to count is going

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Speaker 4: to be It's going to be in November. But what

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Speaker 4: it's going to be interesting to watch though, is these

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Speaker 4: numbers start thinking. You've had all these back benches sitting

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Speaker 4: there thinking, oh, I quite like this job, but at

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Speaker 4: this rate, I'm not going to be here after action?

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Speaker 4: What can I do that's going to help.

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Speaker 3: Me put the Minister of Broadcasting thinking the same thing. Well,

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Speaker 3: VP and National is what ought to be worried on

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Speaker 3: the Goldie.

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Speaker 2: Goldie loses his seat, but actually after after what he

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Speaker 2: just got from me, I think he's happy to he

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Speaker 2: won't be at all unhappy. Guys, it's lovely chat. Do

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Speaker 2: you thank you so much? Enjoy your Easter weekend and

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