1 00:00:07,173 --> 00:00:10,493 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast 2 00:00:10,613 --> 00:00:11,973 Speaker 1: from Newstalks AEDB. 3 00:00:12,893 --> 00:00:16,333 Speaker 2: Twenty two minutes too eleven on Newstalks, there'd be Netflix 4 00:00:16,733 --> 00:00:20,453 Speaker 2: and Paramount have asked Canadian courts to ditch a local 5 00:00:20,573 --> 00:00:22,813 Speaker 2: news funding rule. Now this rule is a little bit 6 00:00:22,853 --> 00:00:25,253 Speaker 2: different to the one that's being pursued by the government here, 7 00:00:25,293 --> 00:00:29,333 Speaker 2: but it could have big implications for news producers in Canada. 8 00:00:29,453 --> 00:00:31,573 Speaker 2: Our texpert Paul Steinhous is here with the details. 9 00:00:31,573 --> 00:00:34,893 Speaker 3: Hey Paul, Yeah, good morning Jack. It's a timely conversation, 10 00:00:35,013 --> 00:00:38,213 Speaker 3: isn't it, with the closure of news Hub. And it's 11 00:00:38,253 --> 00:00:41,253 Speaker 3: a really interesting one because it's called the Online Streaming 12 00:00:41,293 --> 00:00:46,213 Speaker 3: Act and it's in Canada, and they are basically going 13 00:00:46,253 --> 00:00:49,533 Speaker 3: after the biggest streaming services, those who pull in more 14 00:00:49,533 --> 00:00:53,453 Speaker 3: than twenty five million dollars Canadian worth of revenue and 15 00:00:53,493 --> 00:00:55,973 Speaker 3: who aren't affiliated with the domestic broadcasters, so they're the 16 00:00:56,373 --> 00:01:00,293 Speaker 3: real Netflixes of the world, the big internationals. Sure, and 17 00:01:00,333 --> 00:01:02,933 Speaker 3: they're going to take They're going to put five percent 18 00:01:03,093 --> 00:01:06,333 Speaker 3: tax on that revenue, which is a pretty large number. 19 00:01:06,493 --> 00:01:08,213 Speaker 3: They think they're going to pull in about two hundred 20 00:01:08,293 --> 00:01:10,693 Speaker 3: million dollars in funding, which they are then going to 21 00:01:10,693 --> 00:01:12,693 Speaker 3: go and put into what I assume is like in 22 00:01:12,773 --> 00:01:14,853 Speaker 3: New Zealand on a type fund, they're going to go 23 00:01:14,893 --> 00:01:19,253 Speaker 3: towards creating local content, supporting black and Indigenous creators. All 24 00:01:19,253 --> 00:01:21,773 Speaker 3: of this sounds good, and here's where it's weird. The 25 00:01:21,773 --> 00:01:25,013 Speaker 3: Motion Picture Association of Canada actually kind of says that 26 00:01:25,053 --> 00:01:27,893 Speaker 3: it's okay. They're kind of on board with it, and 27 00:01:27,973 --> 00:01:30,253 Speaker 3: I guess it's because they're probably going to be creating 28 00:01:30,293 --> 00:01:33,693 Speaker 3: content that could potentially end up on one of their services, right. 29 00:01:33,733 --> 00:01:36,413 Speaker 3: But what they're here, yeah, but what they're not interested 30 00:01:36,453 --> 00:01:39,173 Speaker 3: in is a component of that law where they need 31 00:01:39,213 --> 00:01:42,693 Speaker 3: to fund local news. Interesting, so about one point five 32 00:01:42,733 --> 00:01:46,053 Speaker 3: percent is actually of is going to be going to 33 00:01:46,333 --> 00:01:49,973 Speaker 3: local news production. And these studios are saying that this 34 00:01:50,053 --> 00:01:53,333 Speaker 3: news content mandate is unreasonable. That's the word they use. 35 00:01:53,613 --> 00:01:56,893 Speaker 3: They said, it's neither appropriate in consideration of the nature 36 00:01:56,933 --> 00:02:00,293 Speaker 3: of the services they provide, nor equitable. So what they're 37 00:02:00,333 --> 00:02:04,533 Speaker 3: really saying is that, hey, we're happy to maybe think 38 00:02:04,573 --> 00:02:08,413 Speaker 3: about helping out if it's going to be entertainment, but 39 00:02:08,533 --> 00:02:10,533 Speaker 3: if it's some that we're not going to put on 40 00:02:10,613 --> 00:02:13,413 Speaker 3: our service, don't really want to do it. And they've 41 00:02:13,453 --> 00:02:16,533 Speaker 3: gone to the court to say strike it out because 42 00:02:16,533 --> 00:02:18,733 Speaker 3: this is supposed to go into law September one. 43 00:02:18,773 --> 00:02:22,493 Speaker 2: Well, look here's the thing. It's you know, I'm sure 44 00:02:22,533 --> 00:02:25,493 Speaker 2: people would say, you have on that. Yeah, if I 45 00:02:25,573 --> 00:02:27,613 Speaker 2: put on. If I try and look at this critically, 46 00:02:28,493 --> 00:02:31,333 Speaker 2: you can see why they Netflix is actually, you know 47 00:02:31,413 --> 00:02:34,093 Speaker 2: what we don't. We're not competing with news. We're not 48 00:02:34,213 --> 00:02:37,093 Speaker 2: sucking people away from news. We're not hoovering up that 49 00:02:37,173 --> 00:02:41,093 Speaker 2: information like maybe Google and Meta are doing with their models. 50 00:02:41,093 --> 00:02:43,813 Speaker 2: We're quite different. We're just providing entertainment. And I think 51 00:02:43,813 --> 00:02:45,293 Speaker 2: there's probably a reasonable argument. 52 00:02:45,093 --> 00:02:48,133 Speaker 3: To be made. But I think that the big piece 53 00:02:48,213 --> 00:02:52,133 Speaker 3: that is probably the the core of this argument is 54 00:02:52,173 --> 00:02:57,093 Speaker 3: that news organizations don't typically outside of usually morning shows 55 00:02:57,093 --> 00:02:59,333 Speaker 3: in most parts of the world, don't typically make a 56 00:02:59,333 --> 00:03:02,373 Speaker 3: lot of money, and so they're actually like that content's 57 00:03:02,413 --> 00:03:05,373 Speaker 3: like the lost Leader, right, So I think, how else 58 00:03:05,413 --> 00:03:07,173 Speaker 3: are you going to fund new I actually think it's 59 00:03:07,213 --> 00:03:11,693 Speaker 3: quite an interesting kind of danced I've done. I really 60 00:03:11,733 --> 00:03:13,853 Speaker 3: like as well that they're targeting the big streamers and 61 00:03:13,933 --> 00:03:16,253 Speaker 3: not yet you know, the new kid on the not 62 00:03:16,333 --> 00:03:17,573 Speaker 3: the niche ones, but they've kind of. 63 00:03:17,533 --> 00:03:23,773 Speaker 2: Gone to be So Amazon is getting into the luxury 64 00:03:23,813 --> 00:03:27,013 Speaker 2: department store game by pairing up with Sex fifth Avenue. 65 00:03:27,613 --> 00:03:30,733 Speaker 3: This was a real surprise. Sex fifth Avenue is going 66 00:03:30,733 --> 00:03:33,453 Speaker 3: to be buying Neman markets. They've been competitors for years 67 00:03:33,493 --> 00:03:35,573 Speaker 3: and years. There's been a lot of consolidation in the 68 00:03:35,653 --> 00:03:39,613 Speaker 3: luxury space. The number of department store brands is dwindled. 69 00:03:39,613 --> 00:03:41,653 Speaker 3: In fact, one of the department stores period have. I 70 00:03:41,653 --> 00:03:44,453 Speaker 3: guess I've dwindled here in the States. But what was 71 00:03:44,533 --> 00:03:46,533 Speaker 3: really surprising to me was the line that said the 72 00:03:46,573 --> 00:03:49,773 Speaker 3: parent of Sex for Ab is in partnership with Amazon. 73 00:03:49,773 --> 00:03:53,813 Speaker 3: I thought, that's interesting. That's spending two point sixty five billion, right, 74 00:03:53,893 --> 00:03:56,773 Speaker 3: So effectively Amazon's buying into the parent company of SAX 75 00:03:57,293 --> 00:04:00,533 Speaker 3: together that they're buying Neman Marcus. And then even more 76 00:04:00,573 --> 00:04:03,813 Speaker 3: bizarre is that they've got sales Force as part of 77 00:04:03,853 --> 00:04:06,253 Speaker 3: this deal too. Like they are a very minor state, 78 00:04:07,133 --> 00:04:09,733 Speaker 3: but they don't usually do anything outside of sort of 79 00:04:09,813 --> 00:04:13,413 Speaker 3: software startups and things that are related to customer relationship 80 00:04:13,413 --> 00:04:16,933 Speaker 3: management world. So that was really surprising. But Amazon's Mijorready 81 00:04:16,973 --> 00:04:21,973 Speaker 3: stake is going to come with technology and logistical expertise. 82 00:04:22,933 --> 00:04:27,093 Speaker 3: Now that's interesting, right, because they've now basically put a 83 00:04:27,213 --> 00:04:30,853 Speaker 3: value on what they do and are bringing that into 84 00:04:30,853 --> 00:04:33,613 Speaker 3: the business deal. And I think another thing that kind 85 00:04:33,613 --> 00:04:36,813 Speaker 3: of underscored for me just how important the online market 86 00:04:36,933 --> 00:04:40,133 Speaker 3: is in this new venture is that the guy who 87 00:04:40,213 --> 00:04:44,533 Speaker 3: runs the online store for SAX, he's going to be 88 00:04:44,613 --> 00:04:48,013 Speaker 3: the CEO of this new combined company called sex Global. 89 00:04:48,133 --> 00:04:50,493 Speaker 3: So it's almost like they're saying goodbye in person. But 90 00:04:50,533 --> 00:04:52,653 Speaker 3: at the same time, in the press release, they actually 91 00:04:52,693 --> 00:04:56,333 Speaker 3: said they were most interested in this company because of 92 00:04:56,373 --> 00:04:59,573 Speaker 3: their large footprint, because they do believe that when you're 93 00:04:59,613 --> 00:05:02,053 Speaker 3: in the luxury market, it's a little different to when 94 00:05:02,053 --> 00:05:05,053 Speaker 3: you're just buying a T shirt with nine ninety nine, 95 00:05:05,213 --> 00:05:07,893 Speaker 3: you actually want a partner, the sales associate. You want 96 00:05:07,933 --> 00:05:10,813 Speaker 3: them to know what they're talking about, and chances are 97 00:05:10,893 --> 00:05:13,293 Speaker 3: you probably want to feel it, touch it, and maybe 98 00:05:13,333 --> 00:05:15,613 Speaker 3: try it on before you go and spend literally thousands 99 00:05:15,613 --> 00:05:17,013 Speaker 3: of dollars on some of these items. Yeah. 100 00:05:17,053 --> 00:05:19,053 Speaker 2: Fair cool, No, it'd be very interesting. Watch the space. 101 00:05:19,053 --> 00:05:22,813 Speaker 2: Thank you, Paul. That's our texpert. Paul's Steenhouse seventeen to eleven, 102 00:05:22,893 --> 00:05:23,933 Speaker 2: Non News Talks EDB. 103 00:05:25,293 --> 00:05:28,413 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame. Listen live 104 00:05:28,493 --> 00:05:31,813 Speaker 1: to Newstalks EDB from nine am Saturday or follow the 105 00:05:31,813 --> 00:05:33,293 Speaker 1: podcast on iHeartRadio